See my response above. It is not true. I have a friend who recommended 2UP to me and I decided to join. But his account is still open, not limited and we did not log in from same IP, not from same device and did not place the same bets. The only thing in common we have is that we live close to each other and both like baseball. But if we objectively look at the list of bets and list of logins I am sure every reasonable person would see there is no overlap and to confiscate winnings and deposit for this reason is a major overreaction and totally unfair.

Courtesy tag for those who love free bets

Courtesy tag for those who love free bets

I think they split from Sportsbet after ownership was changed, or new owners wanted to focus their attention only on one casino.
Now that he mentioned livecasino I am wondering is something similar going to happen with Bitcasino, because they also had  the same ownership connection.
As far as I know they are still operating and working fine.

Yes, the withdrawal option is activated when you have anything to withdraw (no money = no withdraw option - simple as that).


This is a bug, for a very logical reason - you can't make a withdrawal without making a deposit first.


They found out today about it and it was forwarded to their technical department:



Can you explain to me how you would like to make a withdrawal without making a deposit first?

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You left out a very important fact. Every day (within 24 hours) two withdrawals in Reels are with zero fees.

No Sir, I think you are the one missing about withdrawal fees. Did you encountered a casino enforcing a percentage from the withdrawal amount as a fee? Would you please share it here?

FYI, I suggest you take a look at this table: Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos

According to that reference that was updated last August (Thanks Pmalek), there are 5 casinos with the most highest withdrawal fee:
- bethash.io ;  0,002BTC for 0,02BTC minimum withdrawal amount.
- vipgame.io ; 0,0005BTC for 0,0015BTC minimum withdrawal amount.
- wolf.bet ; 0,0002BTC for 0,0007BTC minimum withdrawal amount.
- paradice.in ; 0,0002BTC for 0,002BTC minimum withdrawal amount.
- bitvest.io ; 0,00012BTC for 0,0012BTC minimum withdrawal amount.

The list is for BTC withdrawal fees which should be the highest in any casino. None of them use a policy like yours. Yes your policy is somehow tricky considering the huge 10%.

Thank you all for the thoughtful questions and suggestions. There are several important points here, so I will answer them in detail.


Our review-monitoring processes are already well established, and we continue improving them. We pay particular attention to negative reviews and disputes involving withheld funds.

If a review was submitted by a real customer, we cannot remove it simply because the exchanger asks us to do so - even if the problem is eventually resolved. The customer, the exchanger and AntiSwap can all add public comments explaining what happened and how the case was resolved, but the original history remains visible.

We also plan to publish the number of completed transactions for each exchanger soon and keep these figures updated. This will provide users with another objective data point when choosing an exchanger.

Routine monitoring of new reviews is not actually the most difficult part. The much larger task was processing the initial database containing millions of historical reviews. We reviewed that history and recorded the detected scam cases in detail, including the amounts blocked by exchangers whenever this information was available.


Yes. A fraudulent exchanger can return to Neutral or Fair status after resolving the problems with all affected customers and demonstrating improved conduct.

This has already happened - but it is a very rare case, and only when the exchanger is genuinely interested in continuing to operate honestly. In most situations, a scam exchanger remains a scam. The original reviews are not deleted, and our comments explaining the exchanger's status change remain public. Users can therefore see both the original problem and how it was resolved.

This also gives us a useful form of pressure. Many exchangers do not want to stay on the scam list, and that has pushed some of them to return funds to customers even after they first refused to do so without KYC. Those cases please us most - they show that the work is not in vain.

In fact, this was one of the main reasons AntiSwap was created - to help stop the spread of AML scam and encourage exchangers to deal with customers honestly. To be frank, we believe we have already achieved some meaningful results in this area.


This is a possible attack scenario, and it would be dishonest to claim that it can be physically excluded. If a fabricated transaction is prepared carefully enough, it may be impossible to distinguish it conclusively from a genuine transaction.

This is one reason we always advise users that the amount of an exchange must never exceed the exchanger's available deposit.

If anything starts going wrong during a transaction, the customer should contact us and leave a review immediately. This allows us to suspend the exchanger before additional users are affected.

If there are several accepted claims against a limited deposit, the available deposit is distributed proportionally among the claimants. Therefore, in the scenario you described, a sufficiently convincing fraudulent claimant could theoretically receive part of the same deposit alongside genuine victims.

There is, however, a stronger option for users who want additional protection: the required part of an exchanger's deposit can be reserved specifically for a particular transaction through AntiSwap.

We temporarily reserve that amount so it cannot be used for other claims or withdrawn while the transaction is in progress. Once the exchange is completed successfully, the reserved amount is released back into the exchanger's available deposit.

Users rarely request this, but the option is available. If someone wants to reserve an exchanger's deposit for a transaction, they can contact us directly - arranging it is not a problem.


We like this idea. Thank you for suggesting it and for offering to help with the Urdu translation.

We will look at how other services organize translated announcement topics across BitcoinTalk's local boards. The idea is excellent overall, and it is something we should work on.


A user can delete a review that they personally submitted. However, AntiSwap does not remove a genuine customer's review without that customer's approval, even when the original problem has been resolved.

Instead, the user, the exchanger and AntiSwap can add comments describing the dispute, the available evidence and its eventual resolution. This preserves the complete history instead of pretending the incident never happened.

We only remove reviews that we determine to be fabricated and not submitted by a real customer. Exchangers monitor their pages closely and regularly report reviews they believe to be false, but a complaint from an exchanger alone is not sufficient reason for deletion.

AntiSwap has public threads on several forums as well as a public Telegram chat. If we removed a genuine review without the customer's approval, that information could quickly become public. We have not had such a case.


Displaying the date of the latest manual review is an interesting suggestion, and we will consider how to implement it in a useful way.

Regarding English translations of exchanger descriptions and reviews: you are right, this is needed. I have added it to our task list, and we intend to improve the English version in the near future.


You are right. It was time to move fraudulent exchangers to the bottom of the list, and this has now been done. The current order is more logical.

Originally, AntiSwap was primarily a catalogue of scam exchangers. When AML scam was only beginning to spread, our goal was to demonstrate that this problem was being ignored in our part of the internet. For that reason, scam exchangers were deliberately given the most prominent position.




Later, after seeing the positive response on the forums where we published our research, we decided to develop AntiSwap into a complete exchanger-monitoring platform. Many improvements and structural changes have been made since then, so keeping fraudulent exchangers at the top no longer reflected what the project had become.


The issue has been fixed. Thank you for pointing it out.


Thank you for checking both versions so carefully.

On the first point: this issue is not on our side. We pass the exact pair selected by the user to the exchanger in the request. Unfortunately, not every exchanger handles this parameter correctly, so some of them may open a different pair.

The English language switch on the Tor version has now been fixed. Thank you for pointing out our mistake.

Thank you again for the questions, criticism and practical suggestions. They help us identify where the platform and our explanations need to become clearer.

I agree to this, not only because they didn't merit it, but because it raises another important question in my mind

• Would the cardboard title be rewarded with the financial dividends and other benefits as title winners for those years?
• Would Manchester city be asked for a refund of the dividends they received as champions?

Although I see very slim chances that they're stripped of those titles or given capital punishments, England is not stupid, football is one major economy booster of the UK and if they get that harsh, they may loose one of the clubs which brings in the bulk of the revenue.

E momci, sad smo već došli do nečega što mi se sviđa
Al opet, pretpostavit ću da ta Tails varijanta služi samo za BTC - opet ostaje pitanje što s ostalime.


Imaš neki video za ovo? To bi mi potencijalno bilo dobro rješenje za ostale blockchaine.

There is nothing wrong with showing that same proof in here with some screenshots, usernames blurred. Takes just a couple of minutes. Then we can all judge and if 2UP is right in their allegations it will only look good for them. Now people will have doubts.

Btw I also wonder based on which term exactly Holydarkness feels a total confiscation of funds (not only winnings but also deposit) would be justified. Can you name that specific term Holydarkness?

I visit the site and quickly see the notification on top of a page.
But only this short notification is not enough, as they should add a hyperlink to a full detailed announcement about their casino service closure, and timelines on what Casinobet users have to be aware of and know what to do.

I check at bottom of their site to try finding any blog page for that post, but they don't have that.

Just to be clear: I'm not saying Holydarkness harmed me intentionally by making such a bad judgment call.

He probably is honest but does not understand a thing about sportsbetting and 2up took advantage of that by selling him a bulshit story. If he did then he would first think logically and see that there is no advantage to bet on opposite outcomes simultaneously within the same bookmaker. It would be a suicide strategy for the player to get some guaranteed losses. So this should already set off alarm bells for him as to why any player would do this.

I have no way of seeing their "proof" of hundreds of logs from same IP. But I know it cannot be true as I was the only one betting. From my phone with my mobile internet (no VPN). And the amount of bets I placed was around 10. So hundreds of logs cannot even possibly be true.


I am telling you all, 2UP have fabricated their fake logs and this is VERY ALARMING. They are a scam operation and I guarantee things like this will happen more often in the future. Be ready for a lot of scam accusations to pop up in the future when a casino starts to fabricate fake logs.

And this is the more reason why Manchester City should be stripped off all their titles, in the period under investigation. Because this is total wickedness and biased play coming from Manchester City. In every game and sport there are rules and regulations that guides them and it's expected that any team or even individual that is partaking in such sport should abides by.

From all indications Manchester City is culpable and that has been proven already. So the next thing that should be done is the penalities, and that should be titles deduction or outright relegation so that it can sound as a very big warning to other teams that may try to go the way of Manchester City.

I could access their website using this link : https://antiswap.io Instead of the side domain en.antiswap.io which is apparently down for now.
The way I could access to it is visiting the working domain, then you can change the language from Russian to English and it works perfectly.

No idea why we cannot access directly the English page, hopefully this error will be fixed soon.

Ja mogu dati svoj "recept" koji koristim za cold wallet. Ja ga stavim u Electrum koji pokrenem preko TailsOS operativnog sustava. Taj se OS pokrece preko USB sticka i ne ostavlja zapise na hard disku, sve sto radis na njemu ostaje u RAM u racunala i brise se kada ugasis racunalo.

Meni se takav sustav cini dosta siguran. A naravno imam manje kolicine BTC u walletu na mobitelu "za prvu ruku". Na cold walletu su manje vise sredstva koja ne diram i pokrecem TailsOS samo kada trebam generirati nove dolazne adrese (iako cu u iduci put kad mi ponestane adresa napraviti watch only wallet sa xpub kljucem da se ne zezam sa time vise).

Uglavnom to mi se cini sigurnije nego koristiti hardverski wallet.

A team that puts out promotional post multiple time in a day would casually suppress crucial announcement like shutdown. This is not any unintended error or technical mistake, in my opinion.

This is completely politically motivated. They know very well that announcing shutdown on social media would have triggered panic withdrawal in an instant.

They adopted this strategy to save their cash flow and liquidity at last minute. So that new user make deposit after seeing promotion right up to the last day, while existing player remain completely unaware.

Yeah, People will never care about the ways football teams used to win a title.
Just like back in those days when Maradona was still playing some of his goals, were actually offside, but because they were no machines or technology back then to dictate when someone was upside or not, those goals were counted, and till date Nobody actually cares about those things or stories. What they care about is how many goals he scored when he was playing, and that has made him a great player that people will never forget.
History mostly remembers your achievement not how you achieved it.

The next generation are not going to read or care how they won, but how many titles they have and that's the most important thing about history - just like our generation didn't give a fuck about how the older generations won their titles in the 70s and 80s, we just read about the numbers and that's all.

If they're going to be stripped, it should go to someone else - we can't have those years vacant without winners.. imo.

So who won? Udinese, or maybe Torino? No? Why Inter after all, can you explain? 
In general, this issue is handled differently in different places, for instance, the slew of titles Armstrong was stripped of were not awarded to anyone else, though not everyone considers that fair. The redistribution of medals happens constantly in the Olympic movement, and I see nothing wrong with cheaters being stripped of their medals and honest athletes receiving them - even if it happens later.
The situation with City is actually much more serious, they didn't just steal titles - they harmed the entire league and numerous clubs. Stripping them of their titles is, in fact, the mildest thing that could happen to them.

I think there could be a possible way to move forward, now we don’t know what is going to happen yet, but stripping them off the Premier League titles is an option, and given to the team that finished second, I believe the magnitude of the verdict is likely going to be more than what we are expecting, but let’s not forget that Manchester City wants to make an appeal, I don’t really understand what they’re appealing for because they have been found guilty for such a horrible crime.

It’s possible to take the trophy away from Manchester City and given to the runners up and what they will have to do is returning the medals to registered players of each Season.

Da, problem kod ovog je što za usera to ne smije biti prekomplicirano. Recimo, ovo s bacanjem kovanica mi ne pada na pamet a i ovo što si ti naveo djeluje kao puno previše posla.

Generalni je problem to što vjerujem BTC walletima (tj Electrumu) i potpuno mi je ok držati BTC tamo (iako sam krenuo povećavati i tu razinu sigurnosti), a tu razinu vjere ne pronalazim na ostalim blockchainovima.
Sranje nastaje kad želiš pobjeći iz BTC-a, moraš u neki stablecoin a ništa drugo (koliko znam) ne nudi neku open-source, time tested multisig varijantu poput Electruma za BTC.

I see the point you’re making. Finishing second isn’t the same thing as actually winning the league, the feeling of being handed the title as a runner up after punishment can never be the same as actually winning the league the normal way. Just because the records and trophies can actually be change on paper, doesn’t mean everything that happened during the season and the experiences can also be changed too.

Ono što sam ja našao na forum je thread od dkbit98 / Dice to seed.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5591798.0

Tamo je poveznica na upute iliti vodič Keitha Mukaia koji je jedan od osnivača seedsigner projekata koju je dkbit98 našao i priložio -
https://kdmukai-bot.github.io/seedsigner-ai-analysis/dice/standard.html

Ne mogu sad pronaci jer sam na mobitelu. Nedavno je ovcijisir pisao o metodi za samostalno kreiranje seed phrase uz zadovoljavajuću razinu entropije. Kad vidi tag, vjerojatno ce se uključiti pa mozda stavi link na svoj post o tome.

Da, uz toliko puno sportskih natjecanja i sportskih kladionica lako se zabuniti, događa se svima 
Ja sam isto dobio neki freebet u BSFL natjecanju, zapravo 2, jedan je uspješno aktiviran a drugi ne, negdje se ''izgubio putem'', nadam se da ću uspjeti i njega aktivirati.
Ali dobro, meni to i nije toliko važno, proslijedim to našoj RTG ekipi pa ako uspijemo od tih freebetova nešto zaraditi, otići ćemo svi zajedno proslaviti uz janjetinu 
Pmalek, hvala ti na svim ovim korisnim informacijama oko multisig, izgleda da ćemo svi morati krenuti u tom smjeru ako želimo veću sigurnost i pomiriti se s time da stvari više neće biti tako jednostavne kao prije.

Imam Trezor ali od toliko rasprava kako su neki hardware walleti open-source, a neki ne, više nisam siguran je li Trezor open source. Kad sam ga kupovao prije godinu-dvije, sjećam se da sam uzeo Trezor iz nekog razloga. Ako sam napravim seed phrase koristeći metodu koju je ovcijisir spomenuo negdje, je li to onda OK? Sad sam trenutno još uvijek u fazi kupovine za predstojeći bull run (barem se nadam da lagano krećemo). Kad završim, htio bi sve prebaciti na Trezor i tamo držati sve zajedno.



Koristim Sportsbet (očito iz mog potpisa ) ali nemam pojma jesam li išta dobio. Znam jednu stvar koju nisam dobio - freebet za prošlu rundu u BSFL-u (mig-mig Trofo ). Mislio sam ga iskoristiti za Hrvatsku protiv Češke i na kraju ga nisam dobio. Jel to i dalje ide jednom tjedno u ponedjeljak?

That’s a great question. When we say **ZERO withdrawal fees for USDT via TRC20**, it means that 1ST.GAME does not charge the player a withdrawal fee, and we cover the applicable network fee.

So, if you withdraw **100 USDT via TRC20**, you will receive the **full 100 USDT** in your wallet, with no amount deducted for the withdrawal fee.

🎰 Target block - 968672. Congratulations to the winner 🏆

Based on the user's remarks above. I think his friend is going through exactly what you mentioned in the OP because there is no assurance that the trading bot script that was copied from GitHub has been publicly verified by a reliable team, and as of the last time I looked, not all script code on GitHub is worth using especially if it's from the developer that does not have a name or reputation to protect.

Ne znam da li je zbog toga Sportsbet slao mailove, ali nedavno se dogodilo generalno sranje u svijetu online kasina. Naime, hackiran je Curacao Gaming Authority te je iscurila ogromne kolicine podataka. Tako da, bit ce cirkusa i posljedica.

Uglavnom, dolje imas dobar Guardianov clanak (medju ostalima se spominje i Stake), ja sam kopirao samo manji dio.




Ne znam zasto i kako, ali mene je nekako zaobislo. 

Na standardnim ETH walletima - jedan je kreiran još kroz MEW pred 8 godina i importiran u MM a drugi je nedavno kreiran kroz Phantom i s njim mi je trenutno i povezan.
Nisam baš ljubitelj tih hardverskih walleta - jedan sam dobio na poklon i probao koristiti al iskreno - malo mi je tlaka.

Ne postoji neki 'Electrum' za ETH koji ima multisig opcije?

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Dobio sam taj phishing od Bitcasina - nisam znao uopće da sam tamo registriran.
Sad još kad skužim da imam lovu tamo koju hitno moram povuć u sljedećih par sati na sljedećem linku..

It's good to see the hunter been the prey but I believe the best thing is people safe from the shady operations because before the operation is destroy alot of older people and people who are not aware of how they operate have already be their victim and unable to recover the lost fund.



You can always avoid social engineering scams. Phishing, for example, isn't hacking. People become victims of traps and unknowingly hand over account access or other sensitive data. It's not difficult to learn not to do that.
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Despite this is not hacking. It's the most used scamming method in the online space now and if I could remember billions of dollars was lost people through social engineering scams last year.

Svi su dobili taj Email koliko je meni poznato. I nije ograničeno samo na Sportsbet je i Bitcasino u istom košu.

Koliko phishing Emailova dobivam.... 10 više ili manje nisu neki problem 

It is a stroke of luck for Real Madrid that Mbappé will recover from his injury during the international break. Real Madrid faces a tough schedule following these matches, and Mbappé is their primary goal-scoring weapon for that run of games. They will be competing in both the Champions League and the Spanish league, so it is excellent news for Real Madrid that he will be fit in time for next month's El Clásico. It is great for us, too, watching him play is always a joy.

Yes, to be honest, Rafinha's improvement is really remarkable. Before Flick came, his biggest problem was that he wasted many easy chances. Even in good positions, he would make the wrong decision at the last minute, which made his fans angry.

After Hansi Flick came, Rafinha's confidence has gone to a completely different level. Now, he finishes inside the box without rushing, but with a cool head. And he is making great use of his strong points. Not only are his goals and assists increasing, but his pressing on the wing gives courage to the entire team. Comparing the previous and current form, it is clear that he is now much more mature and talented than before. Flick has used Rafinha in exactly the way where he can unleash his best.

Raphinha's last season poor G/A was largely influenced by his injury that completely destroyed our European chances and his form,  but still Raphinha this season is a beast, I often times have had issues him him because of his past chances he waste, that was before Hansi Flick, but with him, Rafa has become very clinical and the physicality of the team is so high that Rodri even feels it during training, lol.

Boss Flick's greatest achievement is extracting best performance from Barcelona players.
He has been able to foster an excellent relationship among players.

Raphinha has changed his playing position. And now it seems he has found his best position so late. If I recall correctly he scored total of 13 goal last season. He scored 12 goal in just a few match this season. At the same time, young Yamal's performance is also becoming stronger and more consistent. This young star has scored 7 goal. Barcelona has managed to find very shrewd and experienced manager. As a result, the club is managing to dominate La Liga despite facing any financial crisis.

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    43. 557798: TryNinja (Trust: +12 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (13) 10556 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    44. 754818: holydarkness (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 1430 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    45. 830967: tweetious (Trust: +33 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 459 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    46. 839568: AakZaki (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2290 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    47. 889300: giammangiato (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1520 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    48. 901859: buwaytress (Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 4007 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    49. 914465: crwth (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (0) 1375 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    50. 932931: Ale88 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 3744 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    51. 949248: Kryptowerk (Trust: +49 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 1350 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    52. 995810: hosemary (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 7076 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    53. 1016855: JollyGood (Trust: +18 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (23) 2082 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    54. 1045971: igebotz (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (12) 2357 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    55. 1051955: roycilik (Trust: +11 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (2) 1908 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    56. 1052091: CryptopreneurBrainboss (Trust: +18 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 5177 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    57. 1059082: hugeblack (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 4689 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    58. 1097370: KTChampions (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 2386 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    59. 1099980: Trofo (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (14) 3839 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    60. 1137579: icopress (Trust: +89 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (41) 13446 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    61. 1190631: JeromeTash (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1499 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    62. 1247226: logfiles (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (13) 2403 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    63. 1269497: Bitcoin_Arena (Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2116 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    64. 1311641: tvplus006 (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (16) 2676 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    65. 1424178: mole0815 (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 3694 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    66. 1554927: bitmover (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 7761 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    67. 1582324: DdmrDdmr (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (22) 11381 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    68. 1634314: shahzadafzal (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 3541 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    69. 1724800: Lakai01 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 4346 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    70. 1825672: morvillz7z (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (14) 2224 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    71. 1827294: Husna QA (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 3537 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    72. 1836948: Bthd (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (4) 2626 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    73. 1852120: fillippone (Trust: +12 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (23) 21486 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    74. 1862043: cryptofrka (Trust: +19 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 3229 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    75. 1878246: abhiseshakana (Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (2) 2628 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    76. 1980983: The Cryptovator (Trust: +20 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (25) 2613 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    77. 1982152: lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +27 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (33) 5865 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    78. 2003859: DireWolfM14 (Trust: +21 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (21) 5853 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    79. 2344286: Little Mouse (Trust: +47 / =2 / -1) (DT1! (5) 3826 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    80. 2363935: YOSHIE (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (22) 1913 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    81. 2477002: inspace (Trust: +4 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (1) 1730 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    82. 2497429: jokers10 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 4197 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    83. 2519096: Awaklara (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 862 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    84. 2652924: geophphreigh (Trust: +33 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1146 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    85. 2654005: zasad@ (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (8) 5827 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    86. 2658890: Rikafip (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (29) 8371 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    87. 2739424: NotATether (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (9) 10323 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    88. 2739454: Stalker22 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 1655 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    89. 2744352: bullrun2024bro (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 5396 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    90. 2745549: decodx (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 1000 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    91. 2775483: BlackHatCoiner (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 10120 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    92. 2776678: Charles-Tim (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 6542 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    93. 2796662: Lillominato89 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1305 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    94. 2836461: Free Market Capitalist (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (14) 3651 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    95. 3442614: YodasRedRocket (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 651 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    96. 3558380: Mia Chloe (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 2292 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)

DT 2
     1. 3: satoshi (Trust: +41 / =0 / -0) (8893 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 4: sirius (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (935 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 35: theymos (Trust: +32 / =0 / -0) (15135 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 1268: nanotube (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 2252: laanwj (Trust:  neutral) (50 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 2676: casascius (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (193 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 2759: midnightmagic (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (27 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 2786: Pieter Wuille (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (203 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 3380: Vladimir (Trust:  neutral) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 3420: dooglus (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (335 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 4171: Raize (Trust:  neutral) (24 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)

This doesn't confuse me at all. The flatpak-version label sits alongside the other apps. As I understand it, this version updates automatically (I don't think that's a great feature, as I prefer not to rush into installing the latest app updates - it might contain new bugs, and it's better to wait for a stable release). The appimage version label - which doesn't update automatically and requires a manual download but runs without installation - is located in a separate folder and launches normally when clicked.

Of course, the settings are configured separately for each app, and naturally, those settings don't carry over to the other version. But honestly, that’s not an inconvenience; in my case, the settings are minimal - I configured them once and haven't needed to change anything since.

As I mentioned, the account names and address labels were set up once (and are identical in both cases), so the interface looks the same in both versions.

So, if that is the only reason for not using both versions, I really don't understand (or perhaps don't grasp the scale of) the problem.


That is why the reasons behind this recommendation remain an open question for me. I hope to get an answer from @dkbit98.

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Great thanks guys I have put it on CH and will see how it goes. 👍

This requirement for retaining a privacy on a casino is actually scary to me and there is no way I wouldn't want to make profits if I am the one in such a condition that don't want to reveal my true credentials to a casino that can use it for what I don't know since it's in their possession. Take yield of your privacy and it's important just like the recent hack that had made Bitsler to end their services to players. Protect your information by all means.

I had a similar experience, when a friend you have known for a long time in crypto shared some advice on buying a memecoin or a project that was the best project, but it turned out to be a trap project.
Worse still he didn't feel guilty and said that I was too stupid to follow his instincts.

And some other cases are also related to the accounts of people I know but those accounts were hacked and sent phishing links and some weird apps that I didn't know.
It makes me more vigilant at the moment, not wanting to trust anyone about money and investments.

First of all, thank you for your help and for continuing to look into this situation. I genuinely appreciate your efforts.

I want to reiterate one key point: I used exactly the same network configuration from my very first deposit until my final deposit. I never activated or deliberately used a VPN or proxy; I was simply using my work computer and its existing IT configuration.

If this configuration was such a serious violation that it justified confiscating $35,000, why was it never an issue during any of my deposits or gameplay? Why did it only become an issue when I requested my withdrawal?

I accepted the Terms, but I did not deliberately circumvent any rules, and this money was accumulated through legitimate deposits and legitimate gameplay.

Honestly, looking at the situation critically, I find it very difficult not to feel that I am being treated unfairly. I am the one being accused here, yet the same configuration was apparently accepted throughout my entire time playing and only became a problem when I tried to withdraw.

$35,000 is an enormous amount of money to me. In my country, it represents roughly two years of an average salary. Losing the entire amount over an unintended network configuration feels extremely harsh and disproportionate.

I sincerely appreciate that you are trying to help them understand the IT configuration issue. I hope they can look at the whole situation and reach a fair outcome.

It's really difficult to win big and big enough to have life-changing won money or to the amount that trigger KYC on your account. It's also very hard to win many times and have big net win so that a casino can trigger KYC against your account.

Even it's really difficult, it's still possible to have a big win while if gamblers have several wins within a short time, that bet history and perhaps withdrawal requests from that user will certainly trigger alarms on casinos. They will take action on that account, just to be sure that their casino won't be abused more, and only release the account after investigation done with good result for the user.

It's not comfortable experience for any user.

I can understand what you felt but I agree with the casino approach in that situation. They are right about the past is the past, and the present is now while people always can change themselves from good to bad, and as a business they can not exclude that possibility.

That's actually a great point. It helps answer "why would they ignore a blind-signing warning". It's not technical. It's behavioural/psychological. They are expecting to be able to make a profit off of it. They're being lead to ignore warnings by the nature of the tutorial and the way they describe the process.

So when a warning does come up it's just another thing to ignore, click next and move on with the process. Also, you're right, it helps that they call it a "trading bot" and not just some random software. That primes people into thinking of profits before they're asked to import the wallet.

I don't know if there is a specific range of winning a player will get to before the casino enforces KYC, I will love to learn that because I have not read it anywhere. I had the impression that they will activate it when they feel like or when the player is winning regularly irrespective of the amount involved. If this is not the case, perhaps I will learn a new thing from you. I have not also been asked for KYC in most of the no-KYC casinos that I use.

I am certain there are countless scammers in the world. They may operate as organized teams or as individuals. Often possessing advanced technical skills and sophisticated technology to ensure their scams run smoothly.

We cannot stop them. But, we can protect ourselves or at least try to. Regarding this post, the OP has clearly provided a valuable lesson:

We already received a great deal of information and shared experiences on this forum concerning other types of scams. You can find plenty of details in the relevant boards:
Scam Accusations
More about scam

Various personal scams can also originate from private messages sent directly to you. Therefore, never trust anyone blindly. Never click on links from strangers. Verify the link's authenticity before clicking. Do not trust anyone offering large sums of money with strange conditions. Of course, be wary of anyone contacting you via DM with promises of making money too easily.

Another important lesson we can learn from this case; is the importance of avoiding downloading files carelessly, especially running code from unknown sources. This is extremely dangerous. Furthermore, you should not easily trust videos on YouTube. You should also be wary of false or misleading information, including fraudulent content. If you encounter such things, immediately report them to the platform, and if possible, share the information with others; to prevent others from becoming victims.

You should also know; that deceptive content can also exist on other platforms besides that.

Hi there Pmalek.
I dont know if you heard but Duelbits had a huge hack recently valued around $7 million in cooins, and I think their website is not working anymore.
For me it was showing they are undergoing maintenance, and on their X account they confirmed  going offline to investigate what happened.
I am expecting them to return soon but I would not keep my coins there anymore.


https://x.com/Duelbits/status/2103087620104323369

You have a point about retaining your privacy with the way things are done now, but you only retain it for as long as you don't win a big amount or hope that one provider doesn't flag your account, or something else, if any of such happens, then you have to submit KYC. I never see gambling in casinos that don't require KYC from the beginning, as retaining privacy, when i know they can ask for it at anytime and it would hurt more after winning a life-changing money.

Ja čekam jer mi je predobro da bude istina. Ili će kriterij odabira biti vrlo visok ili će biti neka druga kvaka. Ne vidim scam, niti kako bi ga se moglo izvesti ali sam prilično siguran da ima nešto šta nitko do sada nije uzeo u obzir.

Živi bili pa vidjeli.

#uvjekSkeptik

Good point on the age criteria. Newer casinos can change fees quickly so it makes sense to wait a bit before adding them to the table. also always better to double check the actual BTC min and fee instead of mixing with alts.

I want to add one detail. Usually, such services raise money laundering claims if the transferred cryptocurrency has an easily traceable history. If you send them Bitcoin via Lightning, the risk of facing a freeze is negligibly small. SideSwap and Changelly simply won't have any grounds to claim suspicion of money laundering; otherwise, it will be obvious to everyone that their suspicions are baseless.

However, Liquid can play a cruel trick on users here. Transactions in Liquid are generally considered confidential, and someone might think they can send transfers through this network without fearing AML terrorism. But in reality, only the types of tokens sent and their amounts are hidden. The entire transaction graph is public. Therefore, it is entirely possible to run into AML-related freezes.

Pa ovo, da netko plaća unaprijed, to je zaista nešto novo i još neviđeno na ovom forumu i svaka čast na ovakvom pristupu voditeljima kampanje.
Očito razmišljaju dugoročno, kako privući najbolje korisnike i dobro su shvatili da najbolji posteri traže bolje uvjete, pogotovo što se tiče visina isplata ali i neku garanciju dugoročnosti kampanje.
Vjerujem da je sigban ipak doveo do nekih promjena na ovom  forumu i to nabolje.
Dosta članova, koji su spamali da bi ispunili kvotu kampanje, su dobili sigban a ostali pišu manje nego prije pa je, ako se dobro sjećam statistike, sada pao broj postova u gamblingu za trećinu.
To je značajna promjena a sada da li to baš ima nekog utjecaja na pojavu bolje plaćenih kampanja teško je reći. Možda se samo radi o slučajnosti da se pojavilo nekoliko novih kampanja sa boljim isplatama upravo sada.
Vidjet ćemo da li će to postati dugoročni trend i kako će reagirati manageri postojećih kampanja, ako počnu gubiti svoje trenutne članove zbog njihovog prelaženja u ove nove i bolje plaćene kampanje.

Ever since they made "this post on X", I stopped using their wallet, but the above upcoming features and showing indirect routes for unsupported direct swaps ^[source] are somewhat tempting ^{[referring to small amounts of altcoin that I hold]}.

Cross Pay 89 Cross Pay appears to be useful for Unstoppable Wallet. For example, if you do not have USDT and only BTC, then sending money would be easier because there is no need to convert assets before sending payments.

The primary considerations will be the fees and asset and network support, rates and for conversion can be obtained. As long as Cross Pay can deliver a fee structure and asset support levels that are competitive, cross-asset payments will be extremely simple to use.

A zapravo da. Obzirom da nude isplatu unaprijed, nema smisla ne vjerovati im. Ako bi se i dogodilo da nakon mjesec dana odustanu od kampanje, mislim da bi si pucali u nogu kad bi tražili povrat dijela novaca. Vjerojatno bi dobili hrpu negativnog Trusta na forumu i sudbina bi im bila zapečaćena.

Ali ajmo pozitivno gledati na promjene u signature kampanjama u zadnjih nekoliko tjedana - pojavilo se dosta mjesta u kampanjama koje dobro plaćaju, a i pojavile su se sasvim nove kampanje koje plaćaju $100+ tjedno. Sad sve one kampanje koje plaćaju mizeriju izgledaju prilično smiješno. Zanimljivo kako su se u samo nekoliko mjeseci stvari promijenile. Ne znam je li uvođenje sigbana jedini razlog, ali svakako je pomoglo.

Sad kad sam vidio ovaj komentar cryptofrke, zaintrigiralo me pa sam pogledao pravila. Jesam li dobro razumio da imaju isplate unaprijed? Ako sam dobro shvatio, moguće je čak dobiti isplatu za svih 6 mjeseci (toliki je period na koji se "sklapa ugovor") unaprijed. Obzirom da bi trebali biti na početku bull runa, možda nije loša opcija uzeti odmah isplatu u BTC za svih 6 mjeseci. Ali u svakom slučaju inovativan i profesionalan pristup kampanji. Jedino bi problem mogao biti što je menadžer Jr. Member bez Trust ratinga. Ali možda je razlog što nitko od postojećih menadžera nije htio poslovati pod ovakvim uvjetima.

Moram priznat, i kreativno osmišljeno i ozbiljan pristup.

Sviđa mi se povratak dobro plaćenih kampanja.
Mi imamo 125$ mjesta, ovi imaju potencijalno i preko toga, krenuli smo u ispravnom smjeru.

Bas citam, zanimljiva kampanja te sam pristup selekciji. Ne znam samo dal im je pametno davati tih $5 ili $10 bonusa za svaku aplikaciju, jer bi ovi sa vojskom altova mogli navaliti da iskoriste situaciju. 


Iskreno cisto sumnjam da imaju 5 managera, s ozbirom koliko lose je kampanja vodjena. A jos veca farsa je ono ko fol ocjenjivanje svakog clana pa prema tome odredjivanje koliko postova ce im biti placeno svaki tjedan.


Mislim da situacija opcenito nije puno bolja kad su u pitanju alt accounti i ekipa koja je popusila sig ban. Dam ruku u vatru da je minimalno 50% njih dio neke farme.

I am moving your reply on their ANN here to stay on the line and on-topic, following my own advise to not bring this to their ANN.

My reply to your "actual question" is as simple as your question: Yes.

You agreed to their ToS, in one of it, there is a restriction of IP masking usage, you breached that agreement, thus made them eligible to terminate your account and take whatever step they deemed necessary, as listed and bestowed into them when you entered binding agreement with them by ticking that box. Regardless of how minuscule the breach, or the whether or not it is deliberate [that none of us but you can be definitive enough], you imposed this upon yourself by using public device to gamble.

Cold as it may sound, ToS and legal agreement doesn't care if your boss couldn't care less with what you do with that computer, or if you consider your office PC as your own personal computer, or your IT dept. use any software that made you jump IP every now and then for whatever reason.

To emphasize, what I am trying to convey is point for you to understand that it is not as a simple negligence of the usage of work PC and IT configuration that should be treated as an oversight. So kindly don't see it that way, nor frame it like that. Rather, treat it as that ToS is there to reinforce and legally bind you.

So yeah, the answer is simple as that: "yes."

That said, I am still actively nudging them to understand the real depth of this "IT proxy configuration" mess, to have a sit with them and get the fairest outcome for both parties.

Agreed, surprised that they added it.
OTOH if it was quick and simple and almost no cost in both time and money there really is no reason not to add things like that. From the marketing side the more chains the better.
If you are going to be BTC only that's fine. But once you go multichain / alts there really is no reason not to add more.

-Dave

Bro it is so strange and interesting like people will think they are making an ai bot but actually they are handover there assets to scammers because what we heard is do not click on any suspicious link but in this type of cases definitely majority of people fell in traps of them and easily became there victims because no one will think from that angle i agree with your idea of if you do not understand the code do not run it and do not connect your wallet to it because in crypto world you are your own bank and one careless transaction can be enough to drain your wallet.   

how can you sign a smart contract without looking at what you’re doing? they deployed it on their own computers.

followed some guy’s video, went straight to the “confirm” part, and just did it. ethereum wallets show you what contract you’re signing with and what function it’s calling before it lets you sign.



Yes, that's true, but I think the biggest problem with these scam videos is that they are teaching users that it is normal to click the "approve" popup, just as you would when you're watching a tutorial for some other piece of software and you're shown through the installation wizard. So, even victims who DO understand what code they're approving are still vulnerable because of habit.


Good find. If this exact scam pattern was documented a year ago and still working now with 200+ wallets drained, that tells you YouTube isn't really doing much to catch or remove these tutorials even when researchers already flagged the method publicly.

There are many X accounts that share this kind of thing, building trading bots with AI, building LP Farming Bots and others that rely on AI and claim that they can make more profits in the instant way that the Bot runs.
Seeing how this fact you shared made me think, it is very easy for scammers to trick ordinary users into being interested and using codes that they don't even know what the code is embedded.

I've always been aware of my own security and really don't trust random people, not even trust your friends who suddenly share an unknown link or program or other investment invitation.

The first thing I need to do when I see this kind of shared code or application etc., I always check how the Virustotal scan results and usually if it is embedded with malicious code,
phishing and some kind of code that takes over and empties the user's wallet, it will be readable.

Then whether the code is Open Source or not and they or serious developers will share their code on GitHub and then all users can check if the code is safe or not,
because many developers can also see.
If the code is malicious, of course there will be a warning and may be reported.

hmbdofficial gave a very valid advice. I am one of those persons that do not have coding or programming skills. Because I understand my level of knowledge, I try as much as possible to avoid bots/codes I don't understand. I generally do not feel good about using codes I don’t understand.  However, just as was suggested by hmbdofficial, using AI models to detect if the code is authentic isn't a bad idea. It is good to go extra to verify anything that involves you risking your money.

There are some things people can do to protect themselves without having high coding or programming skills. A simple prompting can still save someone from scam.

Yeah.. but it can be indirect. The script can just be used as a means of inviting a malware on your PC a, this won’t stop the script from doing its job perfectly, just that it’s doing/ already did an  extra dirty job in background.

The malware may eventually  works in background too without spooking any logged in users or it’s  just replaces some stuffs including the wallet , inject malicious code or file to the wallet files dir, so that may explain why.. But I don’t get why he keeps funding.. is he daft?

Like the casinos term and conditions, how many gamblers read that before clicking on agree. With that do you really trust that people will be willing to spend that long time to be reading codes specifically for those that have no coding knowledge or any tech savvy knowledge.

How many persons can properly use the AI models not to mention optimizing it against phishing and scams threat. With the rate Ai powered scams are gaining momentum it is now a necessity for every online client to learn about how to use Ai for defense and detection of possible scam flags.

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The bot even had a limit, it waits until they deposit more than 0.05 ETH, and every time a person, after installing the bot and connecting it with their wallet, hits withdraw and other operations, the money goes directly into the scammer's wallet.

This whole case is a lesson for developers who just started to use AI and watch tutorials without thinking about the code, files and links. I usually give these assets to AI and ask it to check if there is any backdoor, and ChatGPT and Claude could easily inspect them and guide us on how to use them properly.

One thing I have come to understand is that the world hasn't gotten generous to such an extent where people would willingly share a trading bot that is 100% sufficient and reliable in making money. Money making opportunities are often kept private, rather than being left lying around in some random YouTube tutorial. My major concern is how people end up putting the money they've earned at risk just because they want to make more money. I won't dispute the fact that a lot of people actually lack a sceptical sense_{(not sure if that's an actual word)}, which makes them want to try everything that looks like a money making opportunity. But their inability to actually protect what they already have makes the whole thing even more disappointing. From the looks of things, we're yet to see the craziest level of social engineering attacks... It keeps getting sophisticated.

It can be technical and people mostly don't do that but if people don't quickly trust strange links and act immediately with given guides, they will not be scammed. They simply need to check with official site, check information and compare them together from two sources, then realize something wrong.

It's simple and easy.

People who skip this step will become most favorite potential victims of scammers and hackers.

If people can not Verify Electrum wallet, they can apply some advice in The paranoid user's security guide for using Electrum safely. Doing some of these steps can help them having better practice and security, even not perfect, it's better.

They need to at least verify the information, double check it with official websites. If skip the double check step, they accept very high risk to be scammed someday.