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1. Post 66250332 (unedited backup) (by Catenaccio) (scraped on Sat Jan 3 04:52:37 CET 2026) in HODLPath - A Bitcoin-centric Monte Carlo simulator for planning:
So I built HODLPath, a Monte Carlo retirement simulator designed to stress-test portfolios that include Bitcoin.
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2. Post 66249208 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Fri Jan 2 21:08:25 CET 2026) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:
None of that sounds like DCAing, even though guys could DCA in order to establish a bitcoin position and then later on sell that position, yet DCA usually applies better to investing rather than to trading because with DCA there is a bit of a blindness to the BTC price since there is both an assumption that in the longer term (such as the period of the investment), the BTC price would generally trend up so that the holdings would ultimately end up in profits, so then by the time selling might later be triggered, the concern might not be so much regarding the extent of the profits, but instead how much BTC had been accumulated that would then give more financial options.
Maybe but here’s the thing.. I started DCA around April and continue until that October trend.. Not that I lost my capital though, it’s just that after I bought back at $75k my stash dropped a little..
Yeah.. I tried trading it but (buying and here’s how I lost little stash:
April ~ August => HODL
Sold @69k then bought back around 55k that same August, not upto a week.. profit with the $13k difference in price.
Continue holding and DCAing for another 2 months.. but I had a sell limit at $69k
Sold now @60k(bad timing, I was just greedy though, there was no indicator to sell

) hoping to buy back at 53k but then it never happened so I bought back at $75k with a difference of $15k from where I sold. So I lost a little stash due to 2k difference in price..
After that, I completely just DCA, buy Dips and HODL .

Wow!!! I am having trouble figuring out if you learned your lesson or not. I am getting the sense that you have not learned your lesson since you are trying to suggest and even explain the ups and downs of what you had ended up doing as if there was some benefit in it, even if we might conjecture that there may well could have had been unrealized potential benefit.
Part of the problem continues to be desires that you (and potentially others) have to gamble with one of the best if not best of assets (opportunities) that is available to normies who are fortunate enough to have discretionary funds. A large number of folks struggle to generate discretionary funds. I would think that the greatness of bitcoin should motivate folks to accumulate it through certain kinds of means related to buying only so that they can be sure to be ongoingly building up its quantity rather than taking chances in regards to whether or not they are building up its quantity, which especially comes whenever selling is included into the bitcoin accumulation practices.
By the way, did you ever attempt to figure out what your level of bitcoin would have had been if you stayed focused on ONLY buying bitcoin as soon as you figured out that bitcoin was something to accumulate. I understand that you are proclaiming that you were not quite unlost around the time of your forum registration in August 2023, yet you seemed to indicate that at some point, you began to recognize the value of accumulating bitcoin - yet I am still getting the sense that you are lost in regards to the ways that you are going about bitcoin accumulation, whether trading and maybe you would still go back to shitcoins if you were to conclude that some shitcoin might come available in which you perceive that putting value into that shitcoin (rather than staying focused on directly accumulating bitcoin) might end up allowing you to accumulate more bitcoin than a direct buying of bitcoin approach.
It is like you are ongoingly choosing to miss the downside potential of fucking around with trading and/or shitcoins, and perhaps you would get bored if you were to force ur lil selfie to stay focused on ongoing buying of bitcoin only. It is like you are too smart (or think that you are too smart) for your own good... and I doubt that it really pans out to continue to fuck around trying to time tops and bottoms for the first several years (perhaps 4 or more) that guys are in bitcoin... and there are guys who have been in bitcoin for years and years and years, and they continue to have fun staying poor and continue to be involved in buying and/or selling of bitcoin because they continue to fail/refuse to spend a whole solid 4-ish years accumulating bitcoin through buying only.
Sure, it is possible that I might not be correct in regards to a need for newbies, no coiners, low coiners and guys who perceive themselves as still needing more coin to ongoingly focus on accumulating their bitcoin through buying only.. and that selling is not a good practice for guys who need to (or want to) accumulate more bitcoin.
Of course, you can do what you want, yet if you are posting about it and trying to suggest that you are engaged in some kind of a good practice or even to suggest that there might be some replicability in the ways that you are working towards building your bitcoin stash, then surely you are going to end up getting push back from guys like me.
Perhaps you are saying that at some point (perhaps starting in early 2025 - for your 2025 New Year's resolution?), you transitioned into a buying ONLY approach - where you were no longer trying to trade dee cornz?
Yeah but you missed November ~ December, most was $90k~$95k.
What do you mean? You said that this year you were going to try to accumulate as much bitcoin as you can.
You also said that you did the same thing at the beginning of 2025.
Accordingly, I was just asking if you had transitioned into a buying only approach to accumulating bitcoin, yet it seems that you have not.
I don't see what it is that I missed about November and December? I am suggesting that guys who do not have enough coins should just be ongoingly accumulating bitcoin through buying, and so there tends to be some value in buying as the the BTC price goes down, especially if the BTC price stops going down - yet there is no real way to know if the BTC price is going to stop going down.. and none of those price matters should matters to guys who are in their early bitcoin accumulation phases.
Surely guys like me proclaim to have already gone through most of our bitcoin accumulation stages, so I have not really been claiming to be in my accumulation phase since 2014 - yet at the same time, I continued to inject new value into bitcoin in 2015 and even into 2016 - even though perhaps by the time that we got to 2017, I did not have as many instances in which I was injecting new value into bitcoin - which could be a sign that I had both considered myself mostly through my bitcoin accumulation phase and that my practices also mostly reflected such status.. Yet at the same time, I have had some bouts in which I had injected some new value into bitcoin, including the 2022 price drop, especially when I was coming close to running out of money (that was already in my bitcoin investing system) in about mid 2022 when the BTC price dropped down to about $19k and it had a spike down to $17.5k-ish but I did not buy at that particular spike down because I was regrouping.. and so from mid 2022 to about late 2022 (when BTC prices finally reached their lowest of lows at $15,479 in November), I had injected some new value into bitcoin during that time.
You likely know my own philosophy and views that I try to repeatedly emphasize a suggestion that guys who are in their whole first cycle of being involved in bitcoin should be focusing on buying only.. and even my suggestion that selling BTC does not really come into play until guys reach overaccumulation status, since selling bitcoin does not seem like a good strategy for guys who are intending to accumulate bitcoin or who calculate that they do not have enough bitcoin. ..
So, I personally have a hard time figuring out how guys who want to accumulate bitcoin could make progress in their bitcoin accumulation (or their stack size) if they are mixing both buying and selling rather than staying focused on buying only practices.
I was coming from a trading background.. although I didn’t generally consider just selling high and buying low as core trading but it’s still trading..
It wasn’t worth it anyways so I just stick to buying continuously till I get enough to start shaving
Ok. Perhaps you are making some progress to transition yourself from a trading mindset into an investing mindset.
Surely there could be some guys who are able to outperform buy only techniques in the short-to-medium term, yet if we are looking 6-8 or more years in the future, I doubt that there are any replicable trading strategies that would end up beating strategies that stay focused on ongoing buying and holding.
Figured that out too..
O.k. Fair enough.
Maybe, at best, you ONLY have 1 year of accumulating bitcoin? and so the beginning of 2025 would not have had been as good of a time to get started investing in bitcoin and buying only, as compared to starting earlier.. yet still guys end up having to start their investment (to the extent that they do it) at some point.. yet if they had ended up starting at or towards a top, then it could take longer before the holdings get clearly into profits.. which is also part of the rationale to continue to stay focused on buying only for 4 years or longer, even though there could have had been some high price times within the 4-years that might make it harder for the BTC holdings to be in profits.
Yes it wasn’t because I’m still in loss for now but I still had almost half a year accumulation in 2024 …
I imagine that many guys come into bitcoin without necessarily a straight DCA approach in which they have invested steady for the whole time, since if you had already been in bitcoin, then you might have had some points that you put more value in and then maybe you have your income and then you draw from your income and then maybe you might have some other funds that you consider whether or not to add to your bitcoin or alternatively to just keep those other funds where they are at... so the beginning journey in regards to starting to focus on buying only might take time to really get into the groove, to the extent that you are not prone to relapsing.
Sometimes you can just look at a standard DCA approach in order to attempt to compare where you are at relative to the standard DCA approach.
So for example, a person who might have had started investing in bitcoin around July 1, 2024 at a steady rate of $100 per week would have had invested about $8k up until now and would have had accumulated about 0.091 BTC, which is about break-even right now.. so yeah, sometimes if we make mistakes, then our own holdings might have slightly worse measures as compared with a standard and steady rate of bitcoin buying... yet I still imagine that if many guys attempt to get on track fairly early in their bitcoin journey then by 4 years, their average cost per BTC would be right around the 200-WMA and then surely by 6 or 8 years, then the average cost per BTC should be quite a bit lower than the 200-WMA.. perhaps even 50% of the 200WMA.. We cannot exactly know, and surely guys have irregularities in the amount of money they have coming available that can be put into bitcoin and if they are young or in their earlier years where they can get job (income) promotions, then they might end up being able to increase the amounts that they are able to put into bitcoin with the passage of time.. so even a guy who starts at $100 per week, he might end up progressing to quite a bit higher amounts, especially if he had simultaneously strengthened his cashflow management systems/practices along the way, too.
Unless a guy is really able to front load his bitcoin investment within his first whole cycle of investing, I expect that many guys will have to stay in accumulation mode for longer than a whole cycle and two cycles would not be unusual, even guys who are ready, willing and able to invest fairly aggressively at something close to 25% of their income.
I think you got more coin than me (I think it was 0.21 or so), so you should be the one to adopt someone
He's much richer than that! At least 3 times as much, I suspect (although he never actually admitted to 0.63).
EDIT Oops posted to soon... the man himself chimed in.
Yep... some times we say too much, and yeah there had been some points that I had suggested to having at least 0.63 BTC... so there could be questions regarding whether those kinds of admission could end up coming back to bite us.
It seems that sometimes if we are trying to retain some meaning in our discussions, we might have to throw out some numbers and sometimes even suggest that we have some personal experiences around the topics that we discuss - even if sometimes we also might attempt to extrapolate too.
So sometimes a guy with 0.63 BTC might extrapolate 10x (such as 6.3 BTC) or some other number in order to relate with some of the ideas being discussed (and the extent to which we might strive to make our numbers somewhat tangible and/or relatable).
I think you got more coin than me (I think it was 0.21 or so), so you should be the one to adopt someone
He's much richer than that! At least 3 times as much, I suspect (although he never actually admitted to 0.63).
EDIT Oops posted to soon... the man himself chimed in.
yes, I remember when he tried to impress everyone with his 0.63 BTC... does he think we are stupid??? nobody has that much Bitcoin in the WO!!
I do maybe 1.26 or so.
Silver sales still strong and allowing me to add more corn.
Remember when mindrust proclaimed that he had achieved 10 BTC, and the price would have had been around $5,500 at that time, yet he ended up saying that he had sold them all within less than 24 hours of his declaration, which his sale would have had been around $4,500.
It is hard for guys to hang onto bitcoin, even when he proclaims to be trying to do so.
So gosh. Maybe 10 BTC at $4,500 or $5,500 is not much less than 1.26 BTC in these here times.
Part of the reason that specific numbers are important relate to being able to potentially talk about them in terms of if they might be enough or more than enough.
I would argue that
right now, 1.26 BTC would sustainably support an annual income of $7,165, which would ONLY be $600 per month, which is not really enough to live off of, even though it could supplement other income.. so yeah, I think that many of us would like to be able to get to and/or to maintain some kind of a status to have sustainable income from our investments, whether it is bitcoin alone or bitcoin along with some other sources of income.
So if we can get our bitcoin stash up to a high enough amount or even to exceed the targeted amount that we would like to be able sustainably withdraw from it, then there may well be some sense of accomplishment in regards to the pay off of our having had spent time accumulating bitcoin and/or perhaps maintaining it while we were waiting for the amount to be enough to be sustainably withdrawn.. .. and yeah, I hate to impose my values on others (even though I don't) - even though there are guys who seem to not be able to get out of the mindset of either transitioning their bitcoin into another asset and/or consuming it.. which seem to be inferior approaches in regards to what to do with our
playing with our bitcoin, from my point of view.
10x Vegeta is back
It was almost exactly 6 years ago when I won LFC_Bitcoin's Vegeta game (price rebounding to $9,000/BTC).
So, price does a Vegeta-style 10x in 6 years. By extrapolation, it will reach $1M/BTC around $2032.
Quite a reasonable, realistic prediction, I would think.
...and 6 years prior to that the price was about 900 (1/10 of 9000)...interesting...perhaps Jan 2 is some "magical spot", price-wise.
Let's look at it on Jan 2, 2032...if the place or most of us is/are still around.
Even though, sure, it could be that the BTC price is in the ballpark of $900k in 6 years, yet at the same time, I somewhat hate to be a party poop, since I think that there is some justification in an expectation of diminishing returns.
3. Post 66248796 (unedited backup) (by lontivero) (scraped on Fri Jan 2 19:18:13 CET 2026) in How to mix our bitcoins :
There are also silent payments that some wallets like Cake have the option to receive at SP addresses, they are similar to Monero's stealth addresses. I can't wait for this feature to be made available in Bitcoin Core, Electrum, Wasabi, etc. (especially the receiving function).
I don't think those wallets will ever support silent payments.
I think such feature will be similar to lightning network. We might see some good wallets that supprt it, but the UX will always be somewhat problematic...
LN has been there for years and there isn't a great wallet yet.
Wasabi support sending and there is a PR for receiving which works well but it contradicts the main goal that Wasabi is pursuing which is becoming more resilient by avoiding the need for central servers or indexers.
4. Post 66248630 (unedited backup) (by Forsyth Jones) (scraped on Fri Jan 2 18:39:43 CET 2026) in How to mix our bitcoins :
Mixers are sucker traps and exit scams. Who in their right mind would give their bitcoins to a mixer hoping to get them back while paying 5% plus a flat fee? If someone asks about coinjoins or mixers, why ignore the best option (coinjoining) and jump directly to a riskier, more expensive, and almost certainly scam option (mixers)?
The main difference between mixers is that they can deliver you coins with very low AML score, some of them claim to take funds from exchanges and other licensed services and deliver uncommitted coins to their customers.
Regarding coinjoin, I can't give much opinion on its functioning, as I don't know much about its technical details, just the basics kind of above... but I believe it's a good option too.
-snip-
This is why you should create a new address for every transaction.
Binance will only get to know the address you inform. If it is a new address, they wont know anything about how much you have.
Yeah, it's important to avoid receiving coins at the same address, despite being a basic thing, it is a practice highly encouraged by modern wallets.
There are also silent payments that some wallets like Cake have the option to receive at SP addresses, they are similar to Monero's stealth addresses. I can't wait for this feature to be made available in Bitcoin Core, Electrum, Wasabi, etc. (especially the receiving function).
5. Post 66248483 (unedited backup) (by Obulis) (scraped on Fri Jan 2 18:06:26 CET 2026) in Buy every dip, and HODL!:
Yep. You make some good points, and it seems to me that even if guys are accumulating bitcoin for only a few years, they likely are spending time learning about bitcoin so that they might be able to become more convinced that it is better to invest for the long term, such as longer than 10 years... or whenever they might be able to determine that they have reached a status of accumulating enough or more than enough bitcoin so that they might be able to start something like sustainable withdrawal.
Sometimes guys might not really know about their goals or their target, and they can also study and figure out those kinds of matters as they are continuing to build up their bitcoin stack size.
You’re right, there are guys and investors who have been investing in Bitcoin for a long term, most of them would have started on a very difficult situation, because they must have struggled to figure out there plans when starting investment, because not everyone have that tendency of having that plans to invest for a longer term, along the line they have to learn little by little and adjust how to invest in bitcoin with a long term plans, and they have to realize that that 4 years wouldn’t be enough for them to invest in bitcoin, rather they have to even suggest and think that 10 years wouldn’t be enough for them to keep investing in bitcoin, there are people who have been holding bitcoin for quite 20 years now and there bitcoin investment have been sustainable, and some investors also have Bitcoin as reserves that they don’t intend to touch, and some investors also use bitcoin as an inheritance plans for their family.
I think whichever way that we choose to invest in bitcoin for a longer term period it’s quite sustainable as long as we have a working plan of sustainability.
You seem to use the term sustainable in much looser ways than I use it. Many times people deplete their principle when they are withdrawing from their bitcoin, and when I use the term sustainable withdrawal I am suggesting to ONLY withdraw from the appreciating portion of the bitcoin, so that the bitcoin's dollar value is maintaining itself, and so in that sense you can withdraw from your bitcoin forever without losing dollar value.
Of course, anyone is free to deplete their principle at any time, yet when I use the term sustainable withdrawal I am not referring to depleting the principle. Of course
within my thread I post my various ideas related to sustainable withdrawal, both price-based and time-based sustainable withdrawal. Each of the approaches have their advantages and disadvantages and guys can apply the ideas how they believe fits their own circumstances.
I doubt that just calling something sustainable makes it sustainable, especially if the principle is being depleted, yet sure, guys can do what they want, but if they call it sustainable and they are depleting their principle, then I would suggest that they don't really understand the "sustainable" idea.
If I grab the idea of sustainable withdrawal,
Applying sustainable withdrawal is a way of paying self as Bitcoin price increases above the initial dollars input by withdrawing what is on top leaving your main capital.
Your ideas of sustainable withdrawal sound quite jumbled.
There is an idea of paying oneself and it has to do with saving and investing.... When you save and invest for the future, you are paying yourself.. even though you might not be able to cash it out for a while.
So my idea of sustainable withdrawal relates to a status that guys might reach after 4-10 years or longer investing, and if the get to overaccumulation status, then they may well be able to calculate ways that they withdraw from their bitcoin at a rate that is sustainable forever, which means that the dollar value of the bitcoin is growing faster than the rate that is being withdrawn.
So for example
right now if a person wanted to withdraw $80k per year ($6,666 per month) from his bitcoin stash in a sustainable way, then right now he would need to have at least 14.0757 bitcoin, and of course, it would be better to have a little bit more for a cushion, even though at least having the minimum should work for that rate... and so if he is withdrawing $80k per year and even potentially increasing the dollar rate of withdrawal by 7% each year, he should be able to sustain that withdrawal rate forever and ever and ever. Of course, it is good to have a bit of a cushion to be able to monitor that the rate is going to be sustainable... or alternatively withdraw at a lower rate or alternatively wait for a few months before starting the withdrawal, even though the threshold requirements seem to have had been met. Each of us is responsible to make sure that we are calculating correctly so that we do not withdraw faster than the dollar value is growing.
From my point of view guys frequently start to withdraw before they have reached over accumulation status or the withdraw at rates that are not sustainable meaning that they are depleting the principle so that the value of the bitcoin is not going up faster than the rate of withdrawal...and we should be able to figure out ways to avoid overly depleting our bitcoin stashes.
That's having let say an investor has a total of 100 dollars Bitcoin at 100,000 dollars per BTC and there's increase to 115,000, then you sustainably withdraw what has just added to your 100 dollars worth of Bitcoin leaving your 100 capital untouched.
If you are continuously withdrawing from your profits, then you are likely never going to benefit from the compounding value of your bitcoin, so it could take several doublings before you really start to feel good about your bitcoin stash and your abilities to start to withdraw.
So I don't think that it is good to merely look at how much profits that you have in your bitcoin in order to figure out sustainable withdrawal rate. I like to calculate the value of bitcoin using the 200-WMA.. which is the average price that anyone would have had achieved if he had been investing steadily for the past 4 years. Right now the 200-WMA is just over $56.8k. You can look at
my thread about sustainable withdraw if you want to get some better ideas, yet it seems to me that you don't really understand the concept very well, at least from my point of view, and really it is better to get to a status of overaccumulation before you really start to withdraw from your bitcoin stash, and it can take a while to get to such status.. which is part of the reason that frequently we talk about accumulating bitcoin for 4-10 years and beyond... and perhaps reassessing at various points in time.
This thread is about accumulating bitcoin and sure it is good to have goals to get to overaccumulation status, yet you probably should not be rushing the process and you probably should be figuring out ways that you have really understood the ideas of overaccumulation before you start thinking about selling bitcoin before you have even reached enough or more than enough bitcoin to be able to go down that path.
You Obulis have been registered on the forum for merely two years, and I have trouble imagining anyone being able to get to overaccumulation status in merely two years, unless perhaps you were able to front load your investment in early 2024 or something like that, or maybe you got started with your bitcoin accumulation prior to your registering in on the forum?
If I grab the idea of sustainable withdrawal,
Applying sustainable withdrawal is a way of paying self as Bitcoin price increases above the initial dollars input by withdrawing what is on top leaving your main capital. That's having let say an investor has a total of 100 dollars Bitcoin at 100,000 dollars per BTC and there's increase to 115,000, then you sustainably withdraw what has just added to your 100 dollars worth of Bitcoin leaving your 100 capital untouched.
If you keep doing that, your bitcoin investment will definitely not grow. Because basically, you are continuously taking profits. So, by doing that, you are just saving money rather than investing for the long term. Because if, for example, we imagine that the value of your dollars in bitcoin will double tomorrow and you take all the profits, I think that concept is no different from trading. Because the concept of long-term investment in bitcoin that I know is that we only have to focus on accumulating during the period that we have determined ourselves. So during the accumulation period, we don't need to take profits first, because surely we are not yet at the stage of excessive accumulation of the bitcoin we have. That's why I disagree with your assumption. Perhaps for those who are already at the stage of excessive investment and have been holding for a sufficiently long time—at least two cycles—they can enjoy the profits. But for investors who are still in the accumulation phase, it would be better to focus first on accumulating their Bitcoin.
Maybe a guy who had been investing for 4 years at a fairly steady and regular rate starting from early 2024 like Obulis's forum registration date, then maybe by early to mid-2028, his average costs per BTC might be around $100k or so? But then we are not sure what the price of BTC would be, yet the more important questions would relate to how many BTC he had been able to accumulate, rather than if he is able to cash out some of his profits. Focusing on cashing out profits is surely not getting to the idea of sustainable withdrawal to the extent that profits even matter very much once a guy gets to sustainable withdrawal status, even though surely it seems that the more bitcoin we are able to accumulate, then there may well be times that the compounding value of our holdings will have helped to have had put us into a status of having enough or more than enough bitcoin. Guys seem to get distracted by whether or not they have profits rather than just ongoingly making sure that they are stacking bitcoin so that at some point down the road, if they do start to sell some of their bitcoin, they are likely just shaving off small amounts of their bitcoin and they might even spend 4-10 years or more accumulating bitcoin, and then another 4 years or so just maintaining the stash without selling any and then maybe after that next 4 year period, then at that point, their bitcoin might be in a sufficient enough size that they can start to withdraw at a rate that might be able to either support their standard of living or maybe to supplement other income soursees that they might have.
I can now grab what sustainable withdrawal is and can imagine how an investor will keep there investment on ground level if they keep withdrawing based on how i viewed sustainable withdrawal before now. Steady 4+ stacking of Bitcoin at a certain rate can be able to get someones investment to sustainable withdrawal status which seems to be one of the advantages of long-term investment.
This brings back what JJG had said earlier, I quote
"I doubt that just calling something sustainable makes it sustainable,
especially if the principle is being depleted, yet sure,
guys can do what they want, but if they call it sustainable
and they are depleting their principle, then I would suggest that
they don't really understand the "sustainable" idea."
How I viewed sustainable withdrawal before now was seen to be sustainable when it's not really sustainable.
However, it's no longer about principle depletion but about leaving your Bitcoin investment on ground level (without growth) which not very far from gambling.
6. Post 66248459 (unedited backup) (by examplens) (scraped on Fri Jan 2 18:02:31 CET 2026) in splash.tf - instant exchange BTC / ETH / XMR / DAI:
And 2% gain from 2017 ATH (413 USD x 420 USD now)
While bitcoin had a 400% gain from 2017 ATH (20k x 90 k now)
Ok, you had a great gain if you bought XMR in January 2025... If you were holding long term, lost a lot of money compared to other coins and assets.
I don't think these are the parameters on which to base such a judgment.
For example, Ethereum is at #2, even though it never touched that level again after the ATH in 2021. Probably a pure loss for many holders. Here, holders even get a profit through staking, although I'm not sure how real the profit is, considering the low and on-hold value of ETH.
But, we probably shouldn't derail the Splash.tf thread with such discussion.
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9. Post 66247784 (unedited backup) (by BlackHatCoiner) (scraped on Fri Jan 2 15:06:13 CET 2026) in How to mix our bitcoins :
There are people who say Wasabi is doing AML checks in coins sent there, and working with authorities and surveillance.
Just an update: this was back when zkSNACKs was funding chain analysis. That coordinator is no longer with us, Wasabi is now just sitting there open-source, allowing you to select any coordinator you want. Also, zkSNACKs was charging you to coinjoin, if memory serves right, while there are coordinators now that charge you near zero, and you end up paying only mining fees and maybe leftover (which is usually something around ~1k sats).
Authorities haven't managed to de-anonymize a WabiSabi coinjoin, unless the user was a whale (> 5 BTC) and did a stupid consolidation.
10. Post 66247775 (unedited backup) (by lontivero) (scraped on Fri Jan 2 15:04:01 CET 2026) in How to mix our bitcoins :
Coinjoining with Wasabi Wallet IS in practical sense almost free in many many cases and free in most of the cases.
There are reasons to use mixers.
There are people who say Wasabi is doing AML checks in coins sent there, and working with authorities and surveillance. They have a centralized coordinator node.
There are topics about it in the forum.
You can read more in their ann
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286821.msg62077206#msg62077206No, there is zero reasons to use mixers.
In 2023 the Wasabi coinjoin service was provided by a company called zkSNACKs which director board decided to pay for a chain analysis API to prevent coins from using the service. That is objectively true and was announced publicly by zkSNACKs before implementing that meassure. Working with authorities and survillance is simply not true, a lie. Given Wasabi doesn't know anything about its users nor its users' wallets, it can not share anything with anyone.
In 2024 zkSNACKs closed its doors and let the Wasabi FOSS project in the hands of independent contributors to maintain it (I am one of those). The coordination servers are run by independent volunteers (currently 6 according to
https://liquisabi.com/), in fact all the Wasabi infrastructure is run and maintained by independent contributors.
11. Post 66247401 (unedited backup) (by lontivero) (scraped on Fri Jan 2 13:14:55 CET 2026) in How to mix our bitcoins :
Mixers are sucker traps and exit scams. Who in their right mind would give their bitcoins to a mixer hoping to get them back while paying 5% plus a flat fee? If someone asks about coinjoins or mixers, why ignore the best option (coinjoining) and jump directly to a riskier, more expensive, and almost certainly scam option (mixers)?
Coinjoin may be cheaper.
Coinjoining with Wasabi Wallet IS in practical sense almost free in many many cases and free in most of the cases.
12. Post 66247316 (unedited backup) (by lontivero) (scraped on Fri Jan 2 12:53:14 CET 2026) in How to mix our bitcoins :
So how much fee do we expect if we are to use coinjoin or mixers and not use the centralized exchanges

Usually 3 to 5% + a flat fee...
It is expensive.
No way. The most used coinjoin implementation is by far Wasabi Wallet, and it doesn't charge any service fee, only network fees to pay miners. Wasabi clients, however, can give dust to the coordinators. According to real-world data extracted from
https://liquisabi.com in 2025, 42,488.54 fresh bitcoins have entered Wasabi coinjoins, and the coinjoin coordinators have earned 2.634899 bitcoins. This means that approximately 0.0062% of wallets give up to the coinjoin coordinator on average. In other words, for every BTC you enter in the coinjoin process, 0.000062 BTC is given to the coordinator on average.
Enter into
https://liquisabi.com and select the time frame to cover the full 2025 and verify it by yourselves.
13. Post 66246710 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Fri Jan 2 08:54:55 CET 2026) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:
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it's New Year, I don't eat Wagyu daily! Eggs on the other hand, well, I think they are power food, especially raw. So I eat a lot of them. But I avoid mass farmed eggs.
I just learned that there is water in the egg white that you should get rid of before eating the white raw.
I agree with eating the yolks, but I thought it would probably be better to eat the whole egg rather than just part of it, whether cooked or not.
Fair enough. I won't further pursue the adoption topic.
I only get rid of the water in the egg white, the actual white I eat. sometimes raw sometimes I keep it and fry it later.
I think you got more coin than me (I think it was 0.21 or so), so you should be the one to adopt someone
At some point I had said that I had more than 0.63 BTC, so as time passes, I might end up not having as many as I used to have, yet more than 0.63 BTC isn't really that bad for someone who has a year or two in bitcoin - even though we tend to assume that longer term guys have more coin, which is not always a correct assumption.
I do like to mix my real and my fictional so there might be some obscurity about the specifics - even though surely prior to 2020, I used to use $1 million (or the ability to withdraw $3,333 per month) as the default entry level fuck you status, even the millionaire in 2020 was not as meaningful as the millionaire in 2010 or the millionaire in 2000 or surely 1990, that was probably when being a millionaire meant something.
I still believe that it was fair to move up entry level fuck you status to $2 million or $6,666 per month in 2020 - even though even that is getting diluted away, even though we still have quite a bit of variance around the world where $6,666 per month does not mean shit in some western locations and especially some of the BIGGER city areas in the western locations, yet there are also places around the world where $6,666 per month can really mean something... for even the majority of the population who might ONLY be making a fraction of that and having to work as well.
Probably around 2020, I also moved away from the use of spot price as a way to valuate wealth, and the use of the 200-WMA seems to allow for a much more stable way of counting on a withdrawal rate that would rely on that, which means that
currently to get to a $6,666 monthly income, I assess that a guy would need 14.0676 BTC, so the amount of bitcoin needed keeps coming down and down and down, even though
it could well take until around 2040 before 0.63 BTC territories might start to be able to support a $6,666 per month income, which surely we are likely going to need to double entry level fuck you status, perhaps in 2030 and also in 2040. The greatness of the debasement the dollar continues to be a bit of an unknown.. so maybe by 2040.. entry level fuck you status would be based on a presumption of $10 million in wealth, which would mean around a $33k per month income, which seems a bit unwieldily at the moment and as if something may well need to break pretty badly in the next 15-ish years.
My point in using those default fuck you status numbers is not to reflect on myself, yet meant to be a reflection of a kind of normal (not too rich and not too poor) person's entry level (threshold amount) to get out of the rat race and to be able to live somewhat comfortable given the status of not having to work and also the entry-level status of being able to live somewhat comfortably. I also presume that once the person reaches whatever sustainable withdrawal status, bitcoin coin should be able to allow him to presume giving himself up to a 7% per year raise in terms of the dollar amount.. so one thing is getting started and another thing is keeping it going once it is started.. which presumes having enough BTC to have the threshold status but also perhaps a bit extra as a cushion, too.
By the way, I calculate that
the current sustainable withdrawal rate for 0.63 BTC would be about $3,853 per year, which would be about $300 per month (of course with perhaps up to a 7% per year increase in the dollar rate), which is not very much, even in very poor places around the world, even though surely there would be some folks who would be quite happy with $300 per month for the rest of their life with up to a 7% per year increase in the amount... and that is before they decide to deplete the principle. I know that some folks don't necessarily agree with whether the rate that I have figured out is sustainable, yet I surely think that my position on the matter is defendable... and I think that it is likely to work (until and unless the 200-WMA discontinues going up greater than 10% per year, which I think it is going to take a while for it to stop growing at least at 10% or more per year.
14. Post 66246052 (unedited backup) (by examplens) (scraped on Fri Jan 2 00:32:55 CET 2026) in splash.tf - instant exchange BTC / ETH / XMR / DAI:
I understand that Monero had a good performance this year, but holders lost a lot of money holding it.
What did I miss here?
XMR holders have lost money while keeping Monero?! Monero, which had 120%-150% YTD in 2025. Not bad at all for one of the major altcoins.
Who's holding Monero? I get the feeling the price is more based on actual usage, and it often seems to move in the other direction: when Bitcoin goes up, Monero goes down (and vice versa). At least in the short term I get the feeling Monero is more stable measured in dollars than it is when measured in Bitcoin.
I guess "who's holding Monero" is the rhetorical question.
Monero is still being mined. What you describe could perhaps be attributed to the fact that miners sometimes sell xmr to cover costs, which are related to fiat
15. Post 66245710 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Thu Jan 1 22:44:56 CET 2026) in Buy every dip, and HODL!:
Surely there can be circumstances in which we end up having emergencies that might end up going beyond the size of our various back up funds and our emergency funds that end up causing us to have to dip into our bitcoin stash, so we cannot necessarily predict or prevent all negative contingencies that might befall us that end up diverting or destroying our bitcoin accumulation progress... and yeah, there are age and health situations that might come up that we might not have had anticipated.
You are right about emergencies. We cannot prevent them from happening or predict the exact date it might occur but at least we know what's is at stake when we don't have strong backups fund. When we don't have emergency fund, our bitcoin investment would be at stake as we might be tempted or end up tampering with it. Some emergencies might exceeds what our various emergency fund can handle. Regarding that,we should seek financial assistance from friends and families, maybe it would help instead of tampering with our bitcoin. Our bitcoin should be the last option except when every other options failed .
Yep. If guys have other funds in various forms, then he has options, and yeah, he might have some social options too.. that he might build over the years, so he knows that he might be able to get funds from other people, up to a certain point.. so then he might have to weigh from which one to spend first.. and the fewer options that he has, then he might end up having to resort to his bitcoin.. which he is attempting to avoid.,. and surely even when the various back up funds are getting close to being exhausted, he might be able to finds some less preferable and inconvenient ways to increase his income and/or cut some of his expenses. .so sometimes even having certain talents or a certain set of connections might help to generate some temporary income or an ability to cut some expenses based on people who are known or social relations that are in place.
Very true, and that’s why I started out lately to not be using all my discretionary income to accumulate and invest in bitcoin, even though I still make sure I sorted out my primary basic needs. As a matter of fact I tend to put a higher percentage of my discretionary income into my emergency funds and then use a lesser percentage for my bitcoin accumulation because I believe that bitcoin investment is a gradual process since I’m not in for a short quick profit, it doesn’t matter how little I buy but what matters most is my consistency in those my little buy and holding for the long term goal knowing fully well that my emergency funds is there to always shield my investments so I won’t sell when is not of my own choosing even if I’m in some sort of a profit.
Investing higher percentage of your discretionary income into Bitcoin makes your investment journey stressful because you wouldn't have that freedom financially to stack up a tangible emergency and reserve funds very quick.
Additionally, you wouldn't have more of that freedom of having discretionary income for consumption which I sees as unavoidable since at some point in our investment journey, we will want to gamble, buy some cigarettes, tip a friend or a waiter, so not investing higher percentage of your discretionary income is very necessary for freedom, at least 60% is fair if you ask me.
Surely keeping some money for optional consumption can serve a lot of purposes, including psychological well-being, so for example, there might be some opportunity to go on a weekend trip, and the trip might cost $200, and maybe there are funds that are being held for flexible reasons.. and choices may well have to be made, since the $200 might be well spent on such consumption, and there could be lifetime regrets in having had missed the opportunity when it was available...
and like you suggest Futurexxx, the nature of discretionary spending might have a lot of subjective element involved in terms of how high of a priority to give such extra optional spending, in which some guys might consider the spending to be completely wasteful and other guys might decide that they want to have the option to spend money on the thing that they want and to control and/or balance their choices in ways that they personally prioritize and no one else might agree with certain parts of their choices... and even if guys have some of these kinds of spending pieces that seem completely irrational, they also might know that they also have put in place certain limits for themselves in regards to how much of their income they are going to allow themselves to spend on such seemingly whimsical spending matters.
By the way, if we know that we have desires to be whimsical with our money, we might still allow ourselves to partake in such whimsicalities, while at the same time trying to put some kind of a strict limitation on the amount that we dedicate for such, so maybe we tell ourselves that no more than 10% of our discretionary money can be used for our whimsical spending.. so we still have those freedoms to be whimsical, but we also have put systems in place (that are an amount that we specifically chose for ourselves) to control how much we partake in such whimsicalities an potentially limit the amount of damage that such whimsical behaviors will end up doing to our investment systems and practices that we have decided to put in place and to prioritize for what we believe to be for our own good and for our own future self.
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But the moment we realized this kind of thing, it’s better to start considering to allocate funds for emergencies as soon as possible. Even if it’s just a small amount from our income, it will be a great help when the day comes we will be needing it. And
it’s also to prevent having to sell our other investments just because we are prepared for such emergencies.
Well. If we have a variety of investments, we likely need to figure out priorities, and surely some investments are more volatile and some are more liquid than others. So sometimes we might need to reallocate some of our other investments so that we are not forced to sell some (or all) of our bitcoin merely because it happens to be the most liquid asset that we happen to have available... so surely if we prioritize our bitcoin investment, we may well have to take various preventative measures in terms of other assets (investments) that we hold, and surely we might realize that certain of our investments are not very liquid, yet we value those assets less than our bitcoin investment, so we may well have to proactively take measures to liquidate some of our illiquid assets (and either put them in bitcoin or put them in some other liquid kind of a holdings) so that we do not end up having to touch our bitcoin when we would have had preferred to take it from the less liquid asset first...
So for example, let's say that we hold an index fund, and that index fund is mostly available Monday through Friday during normal business days, and we also know that it would take around 2 weeks before we could sell and convert such asset to dollars or whatever is our local currency. We might know that our bitcoin can be available within 1 calendar day or perhaps even faster than that... so we might realize that we need to act in advance. We also might own some property or even share ownership in property or in a business, and we know that it would take several months to liquidate that value... so we might need to take that into account too in regards what we are holding and what proportion of value we are holding in various assets. A few years ago, I had decided to begin to withdraw from an index fund because I wanted it to generate cash (or an cash income) for me on a monthly basis, so then having that extra cash coming in from that index fund, I have been given an additional cushion of money that causes me to have less worry about selling any of my bitcoin and even potentially to use some or that money to buy more bitcoin from time to time.. even though I consider myself to not be accumulating bitcoin as I had been doing more than 10-ish years ago...so sometimes we can take actions in regards to some of the other investments assets that we have in order to reinforce our prioritization of holding and maintaining and perhaps even building our bitcoin holdings.
Well, I understand what you mean, and is that how you do it yourself by investing in bitcoin? So you prepare your emergency fund alongside your investments.
I had previously made an investment, but it didn't go well because I didn't prepare an emergency fund. Although I thought I could take out a loan to deal with urgent situations, I didn't do it because I didn't want to get involved in borrowing or lending money, even to people I know. So, I sold the Bitcoin investment I had made.
This is actually an interesting situation to be in, I wonder what if you never invested in bitcoin but still spent your discretionary income on other not so relevant things, how would you have handled the urgent situations that came up for you to deal with because the idea is always that if you don't have an emergency fund ready you might end up having to sell your bitcoin but if you didn't have bitcoin available to you then get yourself out of that bind? This concept just came to my mind and it has really got me wondering.
Even though I don't have any Bitcoin investments and I do encounter problems, such as urgent situations, that can be handled with an emergency fund. In my opinion, whether you have Bitcoin investments or not, you still need an emergency fund. That's what you should pay attention to in life. Moreover, if you want to invest, you must really consider other factors, such as an emergency fund.
Maybe we are distracting people with the idea of emergency fund.
Fuck emergency funds for whatever random purpose.. it does not matter..
We are specifically talking about protecting our bitcoin investment, and so the extent that you keep other emergency funds and blah blah blah.. The main context that we are talking about is making sure that we are able to both build up our bitcoin investment and to minimize the chances that we might have to tap into our bitcoin at a time that is not of our choosing... so if we end up screwing things up and then we have to tap into our bitcoin, then in some sense we have failed.
Sure, if an Emergency is big enough then we may well have no choice but to tap into our bitcoin to save our life or perhaps the life of some other person(s) in which we feel some financial obligation to save.
And with Bitcoin's current price decline, I personally don't think it's wrong to start investing again, but you should really pay attention to other things, such as an emergency fund.
You have already screwed up in your own prior failure/refusal to sufficiently protect your bitcoin, and so now you want to tell us that we need to establish an emergency fund first, merely because you fucked up. You are surely not a good role model on either the bitcoin investment or the cashflow management topic..
There are lessons I've learned from my previous experiences, and I will evaluate and improve them.
Hopefully, you can learn for yourself and not end up screwing up in the opposite direction because you end up over compensating for your prior screw up.
No mate, you must not prepare an emergency funds before you can get started with bitcoin accumulation and investment, once you’re able to figure out a discretionary income to use and invest in bitcoin it is advisable you get started immediately with your bitcoin accumulation and along the line you can be preparing some funds for your emergency funds as you’re already ongoing accumulating bitcoin. Emergency funds requires you to have at least 3-4 months of your expenses which is something you can not just be able to build in a day or months, and besides that keeping an emergency funds aside for bitcoin investment whereas you don’t have any bitcoin stash or portfolio to protect doesn’t make real sense, so the most important thing to do first is to be able to get started with your bitcoin accumulation immediately your discretionary income is ready and as time goes on while you’re investment is ongoing, you can be building your emergency funds along side while accumulating and investing in bitcoin. You must not wait to build your emergency funds first before getting started with your bitcoin accumulation and holding for the long term goal.
Well, I understand what you mean, and is that how you do it yourself by investing in bitcoin? So you prepare your emergency fund alongside your investments.
I had previously made an investment, but it didn't go well because I didn't prepare an emergency fund. Although I thought I could take out a loan to deal with urgent situations, I didn't do it because I didn't want to get involved in borrowing or lending money, even to people I know. So, I sold the Bitcoin investment I had made.
I know I likely already responded to your situation, which is that you likely need to figure out some reasonable amount to invest in bitcoin so that you are not depleting any back up funds that you have, and if you are getting into situations where you need to take out loans, then you are not sufficiently living within your means and you are likely not generating enough discretionary income to be investing into bitcoin. You should be trying to work up to higher level of investments in bitcoin, so you might well need to start out with smaller amounts so that you never have to sell your bitcoin, and of course, you can build up both your emergency funds and your bitcoin at the same time, yet it sounds as if you already have problems managing your money so you need to figure out ways to not over do things so that you don't put yourself into similar situations in the future so that you dont' have to end up selling any of your bitcoin for 10 years or longer. ..and surely some people might need to take close to 20 years before they might have had been able to build up a large enough bitcoin stash.
It seems I really need to pay attention to the funds I allocate to Bitcoin. Previously, I was a bit overzealous, allocating more to Bitcoin than to my emergency fund.
There is nothing wrong with allocating more to bitcoin, yet there still needs to be some kind of funds to cover various cashflow situations that might come up that relate to loss of income and/or increases in expenses.. and so each of us have to figure out how to make such balances, without putting ourselves into a place that we have to tap into our bitcoin at a time that is not completely of our own choosing.
Many times normal people might come to bitcoin, and they might already have a practice in place that they have 2-6 weeks of various back up funds available for irregularities that might occur in regards to their income and/or their expenses. Many folks have a certain level of pride in which they don't want to put themselves into a position in which they have to ask others for a bailout.. so they have systems in place to bail themselves out from any shortages in cash that they might end up experiencing.
So if a person comes to bitcoin and they already have some back up funds in place, then they are off to a good start, yet if people come to bitcoin and they do not hae those systems and/or practices in place, then they likely have to figure out how to get into better cashflow management practices... and surely with something like bitcoin, p;art of the eason that we have to build greater back up funds is because bitcoin tends to be very volatile and very liquid, so we have to have systems in place where we are not tempted to touch our bitcoin for 4-10 years or longer.. perhaps even greater than 10 years would be our goal since less than 10years would ONLY apply to folks who have health and/or age reasons for not being able to commit to longer periods such as greater than 10 years.
In the future, I'll try reversing this, allocating less to Bitcoin than to my needs and emergency fund. This has been a valuable lesson for me, and thank you for the advice. Hopefully, I can improve in the future and avoid making the same mistake again.
Hopefully you can get some kind of a reasonable balance without overreacting or overcompensating and/or failing/refusing to learn the right kind of a lesson. It can take a long time to build a bitcoin investment and also to strengthen existing cashflow management systems/practices - including that there are some special peculiarities in regards to protecting our bitcoin - even though surely in a worse case situation, we may well not have any choice but to tap into our bitcoin and/or potentially to completely use our bitcoin to respond to such emergency situation, yet at the same time, there tends to be quite a bit of high importance to try to not put ourselves into any emergency situation due to our own sloppiness and/or lack of preparedness.. and yeah, it can take a while and even sometimes we might have to do work or engage in some kinds of employment that we would prefer not to do.. but we are at the same time trying to make sure that we are both investing into bitcoin from our discretionary income and also that we are making sure that we are building and/or maintaining strong cashflow management systems/practices.
Most times no one is going to be available to hold our hand and/or to make sure that we are allocating correctly into each of the categories, so hopefully we can figure out ways to learn and to continue to build at the same time so that we are not faced with situations where we have to start over.
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Indirectly this means referring to our readiness whether we are able to survive in that period or not and this condition that must be the focus is how our mental readiness and how we still manage emotions because sometimes when we see a few percent profit our greedy soul to take advantage quickly always happens and it happens for most especially those fomo who always say that what he does is the truth by taking quick profits.
I don't really understand the meaning of excess accumulation here? Is it about how we continue to accumulate directly and turn aggressive or is it just a figure of speech where we don't really care about the price conditions and don't sell (just hodl) and continue to accumulate?I use the term overaccumulation to describe a situation in which a person has accumulated enough or more than enough bitcoin, so then options open up in terms of being able to start to sustainably withdraw based on price and/or based on time.
For example, in the beginning of 2016, a person had a $30k per year income and over the past 10 years he had been accumulating bitcoin at $100 per week, and his income had gone up to $50k now. He would like to quit his job and start to live off of his bitcoin, yet he does not want to quit his job until he is sure that he can withdraw at $80k per year from his bitcoin.
He looks at his bitcoin and he sees that over the past 10-ish years, he had invested about $52k, and he had accumulated 15.26 BTC. He also looks at the
current amount of BTC that he would need to start to withdraw at $80k per year, and he sees that it is 14.0757, so he sees that he has enough BTC to start his $80k per year withdrawal rate and to meet the minimum threshold level to be able to start to withdraw at his target of $80k per year, and he sees that he also has nearly 1.1 BTC extra.. so he feels even more comfortable that he more than meets the minimal level of BTC for his desire start to the process of withdrawing at $80k per year and he has a bit of an overaccumulation cushion of nearly 1.1 BTC so that he can continue to monitor his withdrawal rate once he gets started and to continue to make sure that he does not deplete the dollar value of his current BTC holdings faster than his holdings would be growing in value in spite of his plan to start to withdraw $6,666 per month and at the same time, he considers that it is going to be quite likely that he is going to be able to increase his dollar withdrawal rate by 7% each subsequent year, so in year 2, he will withdraw $85.6k, year 3 he will withdraw $91.6k, year 4 he will withdraw $98k - etc etc etc.. and he will continue to monitor to make sure that his bitcoin is growing in its dollar value faster than the rate that he is withdrawing from his holdings.
Each of us is responsible to figure out how many bitcoin we need, and if we have determined that we have reached overaccumulation status, we should put systems in place that don't cause us to get knocked out of overaccumualtion status, once we are in it.
16. Post 66244928 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Thu Jan 1 19:14:43 CET 2026) in MicroStrategy Buys $250M in Bitcoin, Calling the Crypto ‘Superior to Cash’:
It's one thing not to know where the market is headed, but it's another thing to buy $100 worth of Bitcoin today and, assuming the price reaches $150K next year, go into debt to buy $10K worth at that point, which is what Saylor is doing. That's the worst possible form of DCA.
You are correct FMC.. it might not be a good idea to buy MSTR (or any of its derivative products) rather than just staying focused on accumulating (through buying) bitcoin itself.
That's why I really like buying Bitcoin directly since we will not have this indirect exposure on Bitcoin just like if we buy MSTR. We can make everything simple by buying Bitcoin directly and try to avoid going to other assets like MSTR. Since we don't need to rely on some companies balance sheet or any of their dynamics.
MSTR maybe good for investors want some equities, but if they are betting for BTC much better if they directly buy it to avoid having any unnecessary pressure.
If we buy MSTR and/or its derivative products, we have bought various paper claims and we have helped MSTR to acquire more bitcoin, and we have also exposed ourselves to some of their execution risk that may or may not end up helping us to profit directly, since surely there could well be times (and there have been) that MSTR and/or its derivative products have performed better than bitcoin (and even better than cash), and sure there could be some governments, institutions and/or even individuals with certain kinds of accounts (such as retirement) that are ONLY authorized to buy third party products rather than guying bitcoin directly, so they might choose to own MSTR and/or its derivative products. As individuals we can directly own bitcoin, and even some governments and/or institutions might be able to figure out ways to directly own bitcoin... so maybe if we choose to own both, then we have to figure out how much we might be ready, willing and/or able to hold of each of those. With any potentially risky item or trading or shitcoin, I tend to start out with the idea of no more than 10% of the size of our bitcoin should be allowed to be invested in such potentially risky item, and I would consider MSTR and/or its derivative products to fit in such category, and sure of course, guys are free to come to their own calculations.
I recall so many instances in 2017 in which guys were so excited about shitcoins that they either did not own any bitcoin, or they had the reverse allocation, so they would have 90% of their holdings in various shitcoins and 10% in bitcoin.. which in retrospect is seen as truly retarded, and I surely tried to tell them that they were being retarded at the time, yet it can frequently be difficult to help people to both recognize and to control their inclinations towards wanting to speed up the process of getting rich, so they end up diluting their focus on bitcoin, losing their way and/or even denying that bitcoin is the prize... I remember so much about bitcoin as grandpa coin.. hahahahaha.. and those guys who failed/refused to sufficiently/adequately maintain a decent bitcoin holding size ended up really losing their opportunities to build meaningful wealth such as the guys who had either held bitcoin through 2017 and thereafter and/or the guys who continued to stack bitcoin during those times and perhaps being able to get to a point of having enough or more than enough bitcoin.. And surely even a relatively small budget of consistent buying of bitcoin that started in 2017 may well could have reached overaccumulation status by now and perhaps even earlier.
So for example even a guy who might have had been earning around $30k per year in early 2017, he might have had invested $100 per week (which is about 17% of his income in bitcoin), and by now he would have had invested around $47k (1.5x of his annual income), and he would have had accumulated around
5.41 BTC, which largely right now would be enough bitcoin to get him started with sustainable withdrawal at $30k per year. Sure, he could continue to accumulate bitcoin and perhaps in a year or two, his sustainable withdrawal rate from an ongoing $100 per week investment into bitcoin may well put him at a withdrawal rate that is close to double the current $30k per year rate. Guys can measure these matters and figure out ways to really empower themselves from directly owning and building up their bitcoin, even though it could still well take a decently long time to really stay focused on ongoing bitcoin accumulation through buying and even not overdoing it and/or putting your bitcoin at risk by fucking around with otherwise risky side distractions whether MSTR (its derivative products) or even other various paper bitcoin products that are available (such as spot bitcoin ETFs and/or other of those kinds of products).
Many now that wanted to buy MSTR earlier last year
Would prefer buying Bitcoin itself
For some months it seems they don't really care about common stock holders
Which I understand is playing the long game but it's integrity towards common shares its failing
Mnav is 1.04
Already close to the level where phong le CEO of strategy said they could sell as a last resort.
Yep. A lot has changed in the last year with Strategy and/or its various products, and surely it was fairly recently (maybe various points in early 2025) that MSTR was on the top of the world and so many guys were really excited to be in MSTR and even those who did not have MSTR were regretting not having had been in MSTR.. and even in this thread we had guys very excited and even lecturing guys for their not being in MSTR.. as if owning MSTR was such an "obvious" no brainer play. Guys who held onto their MSTR or even kept buying MSTR as it kept plummeting ended up serving as exit liquidity for MSTR's ability to get more bitcoin for itself, since the Bitcoin that MSTR holds is largely unencumbered, while shareholders ended up paying the price and even thinking that Saylor et al were acting in their best interests... yet I still doubt that Saylor and/or MSTR agents ended up violating any rules (I don't claim to be an expert in terms of if there might be ways for them to be prosecuted.. Ok.. now I am starting to sound like the sceptical chymist).. He's gotta be coming in here pretty soon and telling us all "I told you so," no? Surely certain aspects of his thesis seem to be playing out.. .and even the MSTR situation seems to be evolving in ways that they likely are acting worse than what guys had expected them to act in terms of dilution of shares and the kinds of things that centralized entities will do, especially when they get desperate and seem to be spiraling..
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18. Post 66244834 (unedited backup) (by Floxynice) (scraped on Thu Jan 1 18:51:43 CET 2026) in Help needed: how to conduct a fair raffle draw using the Bitmover tool:
Thank you everyone for your response. Thanks Bitmover for your patience in helping me understand how to use the tool. I believe I can handle it myself now. Locking the thread.
19. Post 66244740 (unedited backup) (by theymos) (scraped on Thu Jan 1 18:25:55 CET 2026) in DT update log:
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20. Post 66244146 (unedited backup) (by Halab) (scraped on Thu Jan 1 15:32:37 CET 2026) in [Registration] Best Altcoins Portfolio 2025:
And that's it, 2025 is over. It's time for the results.
But first, let's summarize the performance of altcoins, which we can definitely call shitcoins.
Only a few shitcoins manage to outperform BTC. The big winners are Monero and gold.
Here is the bloodbath :
| Alts | Evol 2025 | Alts | Evol 2025 |
| Monero (XMR) | 95,72 | CHEQD Network (CHEQ) | -81,66 |
| Tether Gold (XAUT) | 60,17 | Aptos (APT) | -82,02 |
| PAX Gold (PAXG) | 59,38 | The Sandbox (SAND) | -82,37 |
| BNB (BNB) | 21,78 | DOG•GO•TO•THE•MOON (Runes) (DOG) | -82,48 |
| Grin (GRIN) | 21,52 | Saros (SAROS) | -82,87 |
| EURC (EURC) | 13,48 | WAX (WAXP) | -83,20 |
| Hyperliquid (HYPE) | 7,93 | Pyth Network (PYTH) | -83,38 |
| Jupiter Perpetuals Liquidity Provider Token (JLP) | 2,26 | SPACE ID (ID) | -83,74 |
| Tether (USDT) | -0,12 | Raydium (RAY) | -83,93 |
| DAI (DAI) | -0,16 | Zksync (ZK) | -83,95 |
| BCGame Coin (BC) | -0,73 | THORChain (RUNE) | -83,96 |
| Ethereum (ETH) | -10,35 | dogwifhat (WIF) | -84,76 |
| Bitcoin (BTC) | -12,52 | Wojak (WOJAK) | -85,13 |
| Peercoin (PPC) | -26,70 | Hana (HANA) | -86,24 |
| Litecoin (LTC) | -38,17 | WOO (WOO) | -86,30 |
| Solana (SOL) | -41,05 | Kekius Maximus (KEKIUS) | -87,09 |
| XRP (XRP) | -43,21 | Wormhole (W) | -87,26 |
| MX (MX) | -45,58 | Axie Infinity (AXS) | -87,46 |
| Chainlink (LINK) | -47,00 | dYdX (DYDX) | -87,49 |
| Bitget Token (BGB) | -47,67 | Brett (BRETT) | -89,20 |
| Pendle (PENDLE) | -50,66 | Eigenlayer (EIGEN) | -89,34 |
| Aave (AAVE) | -52,99 | NEURALAI (NEURAL) | -89,35 |
| SPX6900 (SPX) | -53,24 | ResearchCoin (RSC) | -89,45 |
| Bitget Wallet Token (BWB) | -55,67 | Sonic (S) | -90,53 |
| Chainflip (FLIP) | -63,09 | Goatseus Maximus (GOAT) | -90,64 |
| XDC Network (XDC) | -63,52 | Celestia (TIA) | -90,92 |
| Waves (WAVES) | -63,63 | Dogs (DOGS) | -91,40 |
| Tezos (XTZ) | -63,65 | ChainGPT (CGPT) | -91,43 |
| GMX (GMX) | -67,85 | Vanar Chain (VANRY) | -92,22 |
| Dogecoin (DOGE) | -68,94 | Ronin (RON) | -92,67 |
| Avalanche (AVAX) | -69,23 | MOG (MOG) | -92,91 |
| Cardano (ADA) | -69,51 | OPEN GPU (OGPU) | -93,00 |
| Toncoin (TON) | -69,71 | Odos (ODOS) | -93,32 |
| Orca (ORCA) | -70,08 | Hamster Kombat (HMSTR) | -93,36 |
| Morpho (MORPHO) | -70,38 | Usual (USUAL) | -95,44 |
| Kaspa (KAS) | -70,51 | NEM (XEM) | -95,46 |
| Sui (SUI) | -70,59 | ParallelAI (PAI) | -95,52 |
| Cosmos Hub (ATOM) | -70,71 | Catbal ($CATBAL) | -96,23 |
| Hedera (HBAR) | -70,72 | Zero1 Labs (DEAI) | -96,45 |
| NEAR Protocol (NEAR) | -70,74 | LinqAI (LNQ) | -96,59 |
| LayerZero (ZRO) | -73,43 | Aleph Zero (AZERO) | -96,72 |
| Internet Computer (ICP) | -73,75 | SuiPad (SUIP) | -96,75 |
| Jupiter (JUP) | -76,09 | Hyperlauncher (LAUNCH) | -96,79 |
| FLOKI (FLOKI) | -76,65 | Supra (SUPRA) | -96,91 |
| Filecoin (FIL) | -76,83 | PAAL AI (PAAL) | -96,99 |
| Hawk Tuah (HAWKTUAH) | -77,77 | aether collective (AETHER) | -98,56 |
| Pepe (PEPE) | -77,78 | Tomarket (TOMA) | -98,67 |
| Ethena (ENA) | -78,13 | Lenfi (LENFI) | -99,20 |
| Polygon (MATIC) | -78,78 | KIKICat (KIKI) | -99,75 |
| Cartesi (CTSI) | -78,99 | HIVE (HIVE) | -99,88 |
| Minima (MINIMA) | -79,91 | Krypton DAO (KRD) | -99,92 |
| IoTeX (IOTX) | -79,97 | Vapor (VAPOR) | -99,96 |
| Livepeer (LPT) | -80,00 | Meme TrumpCoin (TRUMP) | -99,97 |
| Realio Network Token (RIO) | -81,49 | Akuma Inu (AKUMA) | -99,98 |
| Injective (INJ) | -81,55 | | |
Now, let's move on to the individual rankings.
The general graph, but we can't see anything.

Here is what you have been waiting for:
| Pos | Users | 31/12/2025 |
| 1 | internetional | 1 260,76 |
| 2 | paid2 | 1 220,88 |
| 3 | LoyceV | 1 198,08 |
| 4 | Halab | 1 151,09 |
| 5 | GazetaBitcoin | 1 041,95 |
| 6 | sompitonov | 930,82 |
| | Bitcoin | 874,81 |
| 7 | DireWolfM14 | 821,98 |
| 8 | memehunter | 800,13 |
| 9 | examplens | 746,70 |
| 10 | ajiz138 | 656,18 |
| 11 | icopress | 598,04 |
| 12 | n0nce | 527,45 |
| 13 | B1g4udge | 480,78 |
| 14 | FinneysTrueVision | 479,49 |
| | Average | 476,40 |
| 15 | rat03gopoh | 463,46 |
| 16 | shahzadafzal | 444,93 |
| 17 | DYING_S0UL | 425,33 |
| 18 | Smartprofit | 422,18 |
| 19 | GrosWesh | 397,12 |
| 20 | Rikafip | 388,15 |
| 21 | Despairo | 337,21 |
| 22 | jokers10 | 332,92 |
| 23 | LogitechMouse | 328,47 |
| 24 | SamReomo | 319,81 |
| 25 | Saint-loup | 311,89 |
| | Random_but_balanced | 294,28 |
| 26 | Taskford | 293,33 |
| 27 | tokeweed | 287,41 |
| 28 | xandry | 278,98 |
| 29 | cryptofrka | 235,41 |
| 30 | Woodie | 223,82 |
| 31 | klarki | 223,12 |
| 32 | worldofcoins | 204,11 |
| 33 | Buchi-88 | 201,36 |
| 34 | bitmover | 185,88 |
| 35 | famososMuertos | 180,52 |
| 36 | arallmuus | 171,39 |
| 37 | libert19 | 165,05 |
| 38 | Koal-84 | 131,81 |
| 39 | xLays | 99,82 |
| 40 | slackovic | 88,12 |
Congratulations to internetional, paid2, and LoyceV.
The most surprising thing is that, for once, the winner didn't select the best-performing shitcoin (XMR). It was all about the proportions of his selection.
As usual, I will wait 2-3 days so that everyone can check that I haven't made a mistake. Then I will contact the winners by PM to ask for their BTC address so I can send the rewards.
(What worries me a little is that paid2's last login date is 28/11. I hope he's looking to buy his third house and he will be back soon).
Thank you for this year, it was truly special (a little thought for Woodie

), and the suspense was definitely there.
Be careful when trading shitcoins, don't forget to take your profits.
For the other contest, I won't hide the fact that it seems compromised (or else I will have to go through the hassle of charging participants an entry fee...).
21. Post 66242903 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Thu Jan 1 07:53:49 CET 2026) in Buy every dip, and HODL!:
Yep. You make some good points, and it seems to me that even if guys are accumulating bitcoin for only a few years, they likely are spending time learning about bitcoin so that they might be able to become more convinced that it is better to invest for the long term, such as longer than 10 years... or whenever they might be able to determine that they have reached a status of accumulating enough or more than enough bitcoin so that they might be able to start something like sustainable withdrawal.
Sometimes guys might not really know about their goals or their target, and they can also study and figure out those kinds of matters as they are continuing to build up their bitcoin stack size.
You’re right, there are guys and investors who have been investing in Bitcoin for a long term, most of them would have started on a very difficult situation, because they must have struggled to figure out there plans when starting investment, because not everyone have that tendency of having that plans to invest for a longer term, along the line they have to learn little by little and adjust how to invest in bitcoin with a long term plans, and they have to realize that that 4 years wouldn’t be enough for them to invest in bitcoin, rather they have to even suggest and think that 10 years wouldn’t be enough for them to keep investing in bitcoin, there are people who have been holding bitcoin for quite 20 years now and there bitcoin investment have been sustainable, and some investors also have Bitcoin as reserves that they don’t intend to touch, and some investors also use bitcoin as an inheritance plans for their family.
I think whichever way that we choose to invest in bitcoin for a longer term period it’s quite sustainable as long as we have a working plan of sustainability.
You seem to use the term sustainable in much looser ways than I use it. Many times people deplete their principle when they are withdrawing from their bitcoin, and when I use the term sustainable withdrawal I am suggesting to ONLY withdraw from the appreciating portion of the bitcoin, so that the bitcoin's dollar value is maintaining itself, and so in that sense you can withdraw from your bitcoin forever without losing dollar value.
Of course, anyone is free to deplete their principle at any time, yet when I use the term sustainable withdrawal I am not referring to depleting the principle. Of course
within my thread I post my various ideas related to sustainable withdrawal, both price-based and time-based sustainable withdrawal. Each of the approaches have their advantages and disadvantages and guys can apply the ideas how they believe fits their own circumstances.
I doubt that just calling something sustainable makes it sustainable, especially if the principle is being depleted, yet sure, guys can do what they want, but if they call it sustainable and they are depleting their principle, then I would suggest that they don't really understand the "sustainable" idea.
If I grab the idea of sustainable withdrawal,
Applying sustainable withdrawal is a way of paying self as Bitcoin price increases above the initial dollars input by withdrawing what is on top leaving your main capital.
Your ideas of sustainable withdrawal sound quite jumbled.
There is an idea of paying oneself and it has to do with saving and investing.... When you save and invest for the future, you are paying yourself.. even though you might not be able to cash it out for a while.
So my idea of sustainable withdrawal relates to a status that guys might reach after 4-10 years or longer investing, and if the get to overaccumulation status, then they may well be able to calculate ways that they withdraw from their bitcoin at a rate that is sustainable forever, which means that the dollar value of the bitcoin is growing faster than the rate that is being withdrawn.
So for example
right now if a person wanted to withdraw $80k per year ($6,666 per month) from his bitcoin stash in a sustainable way, then right now he would need to have at least 14.0757 bitcoin, and of course, it would be better to have a little bit more for a cushion, even though at least having the minimum should work for that rate... and so if he is withdrawing $80k per year and even potentially increasing the dollar rate of withdrawal by 7% each year, he should be able to sustain that withdrawal rate forever and ever and ever. Of course, it is good to have a bit of a cushion to be able to monitor that the rate is going to be sustainable... or alternatively withdraw at a lower rate or alternatively wait for a few months before starting the withdrawal, even though the threshold requirements seem to have had been met. Each of us is responsible to make sure that we are calculating correctly so that we do not withdraw faster than the dollar value is growing.
From my point of view guys frequently start to withdraw before they have reached over accumulation status or the withdraw at rates that are not sustainable meaning that they are depleting the principle so that the value of the bitcoin is not going up faster than the rate of withdrawal...and we should be able to figure out ways to avoid overly depleting our bitcoin stashes.
That's having let say an investor has a total of 100 dollars Bitcoin at 100,000 dollars per BTC and there's increase to 115,000, then you sustainably withdraw what has just added to your 100 dollars worth of Bitcoin leaving your 100 capital untouched.
If you are continuously withdrawing from your profits, then you are likely never going to benefit from the compounding value of your bitcoin, so it could take several doublings before you really start to feel good about your bitcoin stash and your abilities to start to withdraw.
So I don't think that it is good to merely look at how much profits that you have in your bitcoin in order to figure out sustainable withdrawal rate. I like to calculate the value of bitcoin using the 200-WMA.. which is the average price that anyone would have had achieved if he had been investing steadily for the past 4 years. Right now the 200-WMA is just over $56.8k. You can look at
my thread about sustainable withdraw if you want to get some better ideas, yet it seems to me that you don't really understand the concept very well, at least from my point of view, and really it is better to get to a status of overaccumulation before you really start to withdraw from your bitcoin stash, and it can take a while to get to such status.. which is part of the reason that frequently we talk about accumulating bitcoin for 4-10 years and beyond... and perhaps reassessing at various points in time.
This thread is about accumulating bitcoin and sure it is good to have goals to get to overaccumulation status, yet you probably should not be rushing the process and you probably should be figuring out ways that you have really understood the ideas of overaccumulation before you start thinking about selling bitcoin before you have even reached enough or more than enough bitcoin to be able to go down that path.
You Obulis have been registered on the forum for merely two years, and I have trouble imagining anyone being able to get to overaccumulation status in merely two years, unless perhaps you were able to front load your investment in early 2024 or something like that, or maybe you got started with your bitcoin accumulation prior to your registering in on the forum?
If I grab the idea of sustainable withdrawal,
Applying sustainable withdrawal is a way of paying self as Bitcoin price increases above the initial dollars input by withdrawing what is on top leaving your main capital. That's having let say an investor has a total of 100 dollars Bitcoin at 100,000 dollars per BTC and there's increase to 115,000, then you sustainably withdraw what has just added to your 100 dollars worth of Bitcoin leaving your 100 capital untouched.
If you keep doing that, your bitcoin investment will definitely not grow. Because basically, you are continuously taking profits. So, by doing that, you are just saving money rather than investing for the long term. Because if, for example, we imagine that the value of your dollars in bitcoin will double tomorrow and you take all the profits, I think that concept is no different from trading. Because the concept of long-term investment in bitcoin that I know is that we only have to focus on accumulating during the period that we have determined ourselves. So during the accumulation period, we don't need to take profits first, because surely we are not yet at the stage of excessive accumulation of the bitcoin we have. That's why I disagree with your assumption. Perhaps for those who are already at the stage of excessive investment and have been holding for a sufficiently long time—at least two cycles—they can enjoy the profits. But for investors who are still in the accumulation phase, it would be better to focus first on accumulating their Bitcoin.
Maybe a guy who had been investing for 4 years at a fairly steady and regular rate starting from early 2024 like Obulis's forum registration date, then maybe by early to mid-2028, his average costs per BTC might be around $100k or so? But then we are not sure what the price of BTC would be, yet the more important questions would relate to how many BTC he had been able to accumulate, rather than if he is able to cash out some of his profits. Focusing on cashing out profits is surely not getting to the idea of sustainable withdrawal to the extent that profits even matter very much once a guy gets to sustainable withdrawal status, even though surely it seems that the more bitcoin we are able to accumulate, then there may well be times that the compounding value of our holdings will have helped to have had put us into a status of having enough or more than enough bitcoin. Guys seem to get distracted by whether or not they have profits rather than just ongoingly making sure that they are stacking bitcoin so that at some point down the road, if they do start to sell some of their bitcoin, they are likely just shaving off small amounts of their bitcoin and they might even spend 4-10 years or more accumulating bitcoin, and then another 4 years or so just maintaining the stash without selling any and then maybe after that next 4 year period, then at that point, their bitcoin might be in a sufficient enough size that they can start to withdraw at a rate that might be able to either support their standard of living or maybe to supplement other income soursees that they might have.
Of course, everything has its own risks, whether it's investing or trading. Investing in Bitcoin itself may not require much knowledge, but there are many things to consider and prepare before investing.
In my own experience, a lack of funding, such as savings or an emergency fund, ultimately hampered my Bitcoin investment.
So, before investing in Bitcoin, it's a good idea to prepare for the essentials, such as an emergency fund, which is intended to cover sudden problems, including savings.
No mate, you must not prepare an emergency funds before you can get started with bitcoin accumulation and investment, once you’re able to figure out a discretionary income to use and invest in bitcoin it is advisable you get started immediately with your bitcoin accumulation and along the line you can be preparing some funds for your emergency funds as you’re already ongoing accumulating bitcoin. Emergency funds requires you to have at least 3-4 months of your expenses which is something you can not just be able to build in a day or months, and besides that keeping an emergency funds aside for bitcoin investment whereas you don’t have any bitcoin stash or portfolio to protect doesn’t make real sense, so the most important thing to do first is to be able to get started with your bitcoin accumulation immediately your discretionary income is ready and as time goes on while you’re investment is ongoing, you can be building your emergency funds along side while accumulating and investing in bitcoin. You must not wait to build your emergency funds first before getting started with your bitcoin accumulation and holding for the long term goal.
Well, I understand what you mean, and is that how you do it yourself by investing in bitcoin? So you prepare your emergency fund alongside your investments.
I had previously made an investment, but it didn't go well because I didn't prepare an emergency fund. Although I thought I could take out a loan to deal with urgent situations, I didn't do it because I didn't want to get involved in borrowing or lending money, even to people I know. So, I sold the Bitcoin investment I had made.
I know I likely already responded to your situation, which is that you likely need to figure out some reasonable amount to invest in bitcoin so that you are not depleting any back up funds that you have, and if you are getting into situations where you need to take out loans, then you are not sufficiently living within your means and you are likely not generating enough discretionary income to be investing into bitcoin. You should be trying to work up to higher level of investments in bitcoin, so you might well need to start out with smaller amounts so that you never have to sell your bitcoin, and of course, you can build up both your emergency funds and your bitcoin at the same time, yet it sounds as if you already have problems managing your money so you need to figure out ways to not over do things so that you don't put yourself into similar situations in the future so that you dont' have to end up selling any of your bitcoin for 10 years or longer. ..and surely some people might need to take close to 20 years before they might have had been able to build up a large enough bitcoin stash.
22. Post 66242536 (unedited backup) (by *Ace*) (scraped on Thu Jan 1 01:43:25 CET 2026) in [Meta] Andamento sezione italiana:
BTCuon anno community italianaAspettando che il nostro buon fillippone rediga il report per dicembre 2025, ne approfitto per dare la prima panoramica annuale della nostra community, troverete nuovi grafici e nuove metriche, sperando che sia di vostro gradimento! Buona lettura!!
📊 Analisi Annuale della Board Italiana di Bitcointalk – 2025 📊
Un’analisi completa su attività, utenti e dinamiche della community italiana nel 2025
📌 Sintesi Annuale
Periodo analizzato: Gennaio-Dicembre 2025 (vs 2024)
Board: Italiano (ID: 28, incluse child boards)
| Metrica | Valore (2025) | Variazione vs 2024 |
| Post totali | 9166 | -1929 (-17.39%) |
| Merit ricevuti | 7851 | +1053 (+15.49%) |
| Merit inviati | 7851 | +1053 (+15.49%) |
| Post con Merit | 3419 | 37% |

Media Merit/Post: 0.86
Transazioni Merit: 4619
Top 3 Utenti per Post: Ale88,
fillippone,
baboTop 3 Merit Receiver: fillippone,
Plutosky,
Ale88Top 3 Merit Sender: fillippone,
babo,
Ale88Top 3 Rateo Merit/Post: saverio,
DensBTC,
SmartvirusTop 3 Utenti per Impatto: fillippone,
Ale88,
Plutosky🔍 Insight: Il 2025 ha visto un calo dei post totali (-17.39%), ma un aumento significativo dei merit (+15.49%). La community premia sempre di più la qualità: il 37% dei post ha ricevuto merit, e la media merit/post (0.86) è in crescita. I top contributor rimangono costanti, con fillippone, Ale88 e Plutosky in testa.
📊 Distribuzione Post per Child Board
Dove si è concentrata l’attività della community nel 2025?| Childboard | Post (2025) | Post (2024) | Variazione |
| Italiano (Italian) | 8378 | 10448 | -2070 |
| Guide (Italiano) | 197 | 65 | +132 |
| Progetti | 93 | 54 | +39 |
| Off-Topic (Italiano) | 135 | 69 | +66 |
| Accuse scam/truffe | 31 | 22 | +9 |
| Discussioni avanzate e sviluppo | 79 | 75 | +4 |
| Mining (Italiano) | 24 | 51 | -27 |
| Alt-Currencies (Italiano) | 28 | 38 | -10 |
💡 Osservazione: La sezione "Guide" è quella con la crescita maggiore (+132 post), seguita da "Progetti" (+39) e "Off-Topic" (+66). Le sezioni tecniche come "Mining" e "Alt-Currencies" perdono interesse. La community si orienta verso contenuti formativi e discussioni generali.
👥 Top Contributor 2025
Utenti attivi: 500+ (di cui 300+ con almeno 10 post nel 2025)
Top 20 Utenti per Post
📢 Curiosità: Ale88, fillippone e babo rimangono i top poster, ma con un calo generale. Giorgione e xenomorfo sono i nuovi entry con crescite significative (+383 e +274 post). Ace entra in classifica con 287 post, nuovo ingresso nel 2025.
🏆 Top Merit Receiver e Sender
Top 20 Merit Receiver

Top 20 Merit Sender

💥 Insight: Fillippone è il principale distributore di merit (3428 inviati), seguito da babo (1681). Solo 2 utenti hanno inviato più di 1000 merit, a dimostrazione di una community guidata da pochi "super-distributori".
🏆 Top 20 Utenti per Impatto (Post + Merit Ricevuti)
Chi ha avuto il maggiore impatto sulla community nel 2025?
💥 Insight: Fillippone domina la classifica con un impatto di 1735 punti, seguito da Ale88 e Plutosky. I top 3 rappresentano il 30% dell’impatto totale della community. Gli utenti con impatto >500 sono solo 10, a dimostrazione di una community guidata da pochi "super-contributor".
🔄 Top 20 Utenti per Rapporto Merit Ricevuti/Inviati
Chi distribuisce più merit rispetto a quelli ricevuti?
🔄 Insight: Babo e fillippone sono i principali distributori di merit (rapporto 3.79 e 3.71). Solo 5 utenti hanno un rapporto >1, il che indica che la maggior parte della community riceve più merit di quanti ne invia. LoyceV è il più generoso in assoluto (3.88).
🎯 Rateo Merit/Post
saverio ha il rateo più alto:
6 merit per post🎯 Cosa significa? Saverio riceve 6 merit per ogni post: contributi estremamente apprezzati e di alta qualità, anche con pochi post.
Top 10 Utenti per Rateo Merit/Post

📈 Top 10 Thread per Replies
Quali discussioni hanno catalizzato l’attenzione nel 2025?| Pos. | Thread | Replies | Link |
| 1. | Re: BITCOIN PUMP! | 1428 | Apri |
| 2. | Re: [Meta] Andamento sezione italiana | 561 | Apri |
| 3. | Re: Un modello logistico del prezzo di Bitcoin | 413 | Apri |
| 4. | Re: Exit strategy fuori dall'Italia | 388 | Apri |
| 5. | Re: FIRE - Financial Independence, Retire Early | 353 | Apri |
| 6. | Re: Ross Ulbricht e la sua imminente liberazione | 314 | Apri |
| 7. | Re: [2025] Bitcoin Pizza Day su Bitcointalk ? | 295 | Apri |
| 8. | Re: [DEFI USO AVANZATO- ESEMPIO] Ottenere un presito che si rimborsa da solo | 203 | Apri |
| 9. | Re: Tether investe in Juventus | 191 | Apri |
| 10. | Re: Bitcoin nelle elezioni americane - 2024 Edition | 186 | Apri |
💬 Commento: Il thread "BITCOIN PUMP!" domina con 1428 replies, seguito da discussioni meta e temi di attualità (modello logistico di Bitcoin, FIRE, Ross Ulbricht). La community mostra interesse per argomenti tecnici, economici e di impatto sociale.
💰 Top 10 Post per Merit Ricevuti
Quali post hanno ricevuto il maggior riconoscimento nel 2025?| Pos. | Post | Merit | Autore | Link |
| 1. | Comprare Bitcoin senza KYC: Bitcoin Bancomat a Milano rispettoso della Privacy | 37 | fillippone | Apri |
| 2. | [DEFI: USO AVANZATO- ESEMPIO] Ottenere un presito che si rimborsa da solo | 36 | Plutosky | Apri |
| 3. | [CONCORSO] Andrà su o andrà giù? | 28 | bitbollo | Apri |
| 4. | Bitcoin Power Law Based Loan Simulator | 28 | HostFat | Apri |
| 5. | [Meta] Andamento sezione italiana - RECAP FEBBRAIO | 26 | fillippone | Apri |
| 6. | Re: [Meta] Andamento sezione italiana | 26 | fillippone | Apri |
| 7. | Che cos'è un rug pull e come evitarlo? | 25 | verdinio | Apri |
| 8. | [Meta] Andamento sezione italiana - RECAP AGOSTO | 25 | fillippone | Apri |
| 9. | Re: BITCOIN PUMP! | 23 | arulbero | Apri |
| 10. | Re: [Meta] Andamento sezione italiana - RECAP APRILE | 23 | arulbero | Apri |
💡 Osservazione: I post più premiati sono guide pratiche (es. "Comprare Bitcoin senza KYC"), analisi tecniche (modello logistico di Bitcoin) e concorsi. Fillippone e Plutosky dominano la classifica, ma anche nuovi utenti come verdinio emergono con contributi di qualità.
🎯 Conclusioni Generali
- 📉 Attività: Calo dei post totali (-17.39%), ma aumento dei merit (+15.49%). La community premia la qualità più che la quantità.
- 🌟 Top Contributor: Fillippone, Ale88 e Plutosky dominano sia per post che per merit. Saverio ha il rateo merit/post più alto (6).
- 📊 Distribuzione: Le sezioni "Guide", "Progetti" e "Off-Topic" crescono, mentre "Mining" e "Alt-Currencies" perdono interesse.
- 💬 Thread Popolari: Bitcoin, modelli logistici, FIRE e discussioni meta trainano l’engagement.
- 🔮 Osservazioni: La board italiana è meno attiva in termini di post, ma più selettiva e orientata alla qualità. Il 2026 potrebbe vedere una ripresa delle sezioni tecniche e un ulteriore consolidamento dei top contributor.
🎉 Grazie per l’attenzione! 🎉
Un ringraziamento speciale a Fillippone, Babo, e a tutti gli utenti che mantengono viva la board italiana!**
Questa analisi è stata realizzata per informare e intrattenere la community. Ogni dato è reale e verificabile. Continuate a partecipare e a rendere viva la board italiana di Bitcointalk!**
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23. Post 66242230 (unedited backup) (by criptoevangelista) (scraped on Wed Dec 31 23:08:25 CET 2025) in CAMPANHAS DE ASSINATURAS ATUALIZADAS:
Esse forum mudou minha vida em muitos sentidos. Mas me dediquei muito. Olha isso:

Parabéns bitmover, é bastante dedicação mesmo
Você tem muito mais tempo logado que eu, olha só:

estou bem menos tempo heheh

mas tamo por ai, eu acho que preciso melhorar a qualidade das minhas postagens, por mais que as vezes é cansativo, mas devemos sempre manter a consistência, é isso que nos leva adiante... o fórum me trouxe muitas coisas boas também, é realmente um privilégio receber satoshis em troca de postagens, isso é uma maravilha
24. Post 66242225 (unedited backup) (by rdluffy) (scraped on Wed Dec 31 23:06:08 CET 2025) in CAMPANHAS DE ASSINATURAS ATUALIZADAS:
Esse forum mudou minha vida em muitos sentidos. Mas me dediquei muito. Olha isso:

Parabéns bitmover, é bastante dedicação mesmo
Você tem muito mais tempo logado que eu, olha só:

25. Post 66240185 (unedited backup) (by Floxynice) (scraped on Wed Dec 31 12:15:38 CET 2025) in Help needed: how to conduct a fair raffle draw using the Bitmover tool:
- I realized that the tool did not make use of the numbers picked by the participants, only their usernames. What then is the use of those numbers? Is there any way to determine the winners while taking the random numbers picked by the participants into consideration?
The numbers determine the order in which you paste the names into BitMover's tool.
Wow, thank you. This is just what I needed to know. My confusion started when I didn't make use of those numbers. This helped alot.
- I can only process 30 participants at a time. What about participants that are more than 30?
You can have more participants.
30 is the maximum number of winners, not the maximum number of participants.
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Okay that's good. Now I think it's time to lock the thread
26. Post 66240181 (unedited backup) (by Nathrixxx) (scraped on Wed Dec 31 12:14:08 CET 2025) in Help needed: how to conduct a fair raffle draw using the Bitmover tool:
Since there are numbers of people using the Bitmover tools for selections in their draw which we have them mostly from the games and rounds under gambling section, maybe you contact them and hear about the idea on how they go with the process, you can as well PM Bitmover himself for proper guide, while I will solicit for others that might be interested in using the same tool in the future to have a tutorial guide on how to use it, Bitmover himself may try to help in this situation or any member that have a broader idea on the procedures.
27. Post 66240052 (unedited backup) (by hosemary) (scraped on Wed Dec 31 11:29:55 CET 2025) in Help needed: how to conduct a fair raffle draw using the Bitmover tool:
- I realized that the tool did not make use of the numbers picked by the participants, only their usernames. What then is the use of those numbers? Is there any way to determine the winners while taking the random numbers picked by the participants into consideration?
The numbers determine the order in which you paste the names into BitMover's tool.
- I can only process 30 participants at a time. What about participants that are more than 30?
You can have more participants.
30 is the maximum number of winners, not the maximum number of participants.
28. Post 66240024 (unedited backup) (by Floxynice) (scraped on Wed Dec 31 11:19:13 CET 2025) in Help needed: how to conduct a fair raffle draw using the Bitmover tool:
Hello, I am Floxynice, currently running a quick naira loan on the Nigerian local board. Right now, I am hosting a raffle draw for my customers, but I’m facing some challenges since this is my first time hosting a raffle draw in this forum.
I just tried conducting a raffle with a random sample of 10 participants to get 3 winners using the Bitmover tool. Before this, the participants had picked random numbers from 1–64. Here are my observations:
- I realized that the tool did not make use of the numbers picked by the participants, only their usernames. What then is the use of those numbers? Is there any way to determine the winners while taking the random numbers picked by the participants into consideration?
- I can only process 30 participants at a time. What about participants that are more than 30?
Sorry, I have already seen the Bitmover thread but decided to make a separate thread for visibility so I can get quick responses, as the raffle is ending today. I’ll lock the thread once I get the answers I need.
29. Post 66239627 (unedited backup) (by LoyceV) (scraped on Wed Dec 31 08:51:49 CET 2025) in splash.tf - instant exchange BTC / ETH / XMR / DAI:
I understand that Monero had a good performance this year, but holders lost a lot of money holding it.
Who's holding Monero? I get the feeling the price is more based on actual usage, and it often seems to move in the other direction: when Bitcoin goes up, Monero goes down (and vice versa). At least in the short term I get the feeling Monero is more stable measured in dollars than it is when measured in Bitcoin.
30. Post 66239570 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Wed Dec 31 08:28:43 CET 2025) in Fortuna de Warren Buffet ao longo dos anos:
Acho essa ideologia da raiva de gente rica que a esquerda propaga uma coisa meio disfarçada de inveja.
Outro dia vi um comentário de que tinham que pegar o dinheiro do Elon Musk e distribuir. Ele é acionista majoritário e CEO das empresas dele, por isso ele é o cara mais rico do mundo. O dinheiro dele não tá em 100% CDI, ta nas ações das empresas dele.
Se transferirem a riqueza dele pro Estado ou pros pobres, ele perde o controle acionário e o dinheiro evapora

Todo mundo vende e o dinheiro simplesmente some, vai pra outros lugares.
O valor todo está nele e no controle das empresas que ele tem, não nas empresas em si.
Esse é outro ponto que a malta esquece.
O top50 dos mais ricos do mundo, não tem literalmente esse dinheiro que se diz ter. Os bens que tem (em especial ações) que vale isso tudo.
Se o Musk quisesse largar a vida publica e ir para uma ilha deserta, simplesmente não conseguiria vender nem metade dos seus bens. Porque quem iria comprar? Os valores chegam a patamares, que ninguém quer comprar, porque sabe que a seguir o valor desses bens vai desvalorizar.
No final, eles acabam por ficar reféns da fortuna que tem.
31. Post 66239094 (unedited backup) (by mikel_012) (scraped on Wed Dec 31 02:16:01 CET 2025) in Fortuna de Warren Buffet ao longo dos anos:
Eu se fosse ele doaria para financiar pesquisas que podem mudar o mundo e avançar as tecnologias
Ia doar pro Elon Musk?

Ele é o cara que mais tem investido em tecnologias pra mudar o mundo. Baterias (essas energias verdes), foguete que dá marcha ré, exploração espacial, satélites.... rsrs
Elon Musk só faz uma parte
Mas tem muito projeto que não recebe financiamento e que começa em universidades com pesquisadores e que podem não ter muito valor comercial no começo para justificar financiamento de pessoas como Elon Musk e suas empresas
32. Post 66238932 (unedited backup) (by mikel_012) (scraped on Wed Dec 31 00:32:43 CET 2025) in Fortuna de Warren Buffet ao longo dos anos:
Toda vez que leio matéria como esta me vem uma lembrança na minha mente.
CAIXÃO NÃO TEM GAVETA !!!!
Um velho de noventa e tantos anos para que vai querer tanto dinheiro.
Ele promete doar tudo pra caridade
https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/economia/negocios/aposentado-warren-buffett-promete-doar-mais-de-99-da-fortuna/É o hobby dele.. talvez chegou nos 90 somente porque fez o que amava.. tanto que só se aposentou agora.
Acho essa ideologia da raiva de gente rica que a esquerda propaga uma coisa meio disfarçada de inveja.
Outro dia vi um comentário de que tinham que pegar o dinheiro do Elon Musk e distribuir. Ele é acionista majoritário e CEO das empresas dele, por isso ele é o cara mais rico do mundo. O dinheiro dele não tá em 100% CDI, ta nas ações das empresas dele.
Se transferirem a riqueza dele pro Estado ou pros pobres, ele perde o controle acionário e o dinheiro evapora

Todo mundo vende e o dinheiro simplesmente some, vai pra outros lugares.
O valor todo está nele e no controle das empresas que ele tem, não nas empresas em si.
Realmente se ele vende todas as ações o dinheiro só troca de mão sendo que quem comprou as ações vira o dono da empresa e o Elon Musk apenas pega o dinheiro deles. As ações também caem muito enquanto ele vende o que causa muita perda de dinheiro no caminho.
Não lembrava que o Buffett ia doar tudo mas espero que ele escolha caridades boas para doar que não vão sumir com o dinheiro e desvirtuar as coisas boas que pode causar. Eu se fosse ele doaria para financiar pesquisas que podem mudar o mundo e avançar as tecnologias e não aquela lorota de acabar a fome sendo que o povo dos países mais pobres sempre continuam na pobreza mesmo com tanto dinheiro sendo doado
33. Post 66237585 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Tue Dec 30 17:46:01 CET 2025) in MicroStrategy Buys $250M in Bitcoin, Calling the Crypto ‘Superior to Cash’:
We can call their weekly Bitcoin purchase method the regular DCA method. How important is the DCA method and how regular Bitcoin is being created in each of their purchases. Their weekly regular Bitcoin purchases help holders and more treasury companies gain strength, and also save energy to maintain long-term Bitcoin holdings.
Well, what the company actually does is what I would call a reverse DCA. A typical DCA consists of buying the same amount at regular intervals, such as an individual buying $100 worth of Bitcoin every month. Then there is a variant that consists of taking advantage of declines, meaning in the same example it would be $100 every month but taking advantage when there are large declines, say 30% or more, to buy another $100 or more. But Strategy does the opposite: when it can get the most money, that's when it buys the most, and that's when the market is most bullish, so they buy a lot at the top and little or nothing when it drops, which gives a shitty return.
Strategy's average Bitcoin purchase price is $75K, and today's Bitcoin price is $87.5K, which gives a return of 15% whereas a person who just did regular DCA for the same period would have obtained close to 60% return (AI calculated).
Buying when money is available is DCA.
Buying when price goes down is buying on the dip. DCA and buying on dip are not the same thing since DCA is not price sensitive, even though some people say that they are going to DCA during dips, they are combining strategies and they are not employing strict DCA which is price insensitive and buys when money is available.
Yes. MSTR/Saylor do the former and not the latter. MSTR/Saylor is doing DCA.. yet part of their problem in regards to their buying at higher prices is that the money comes available as the price goes up, which they had kind of engineered raising money that way too. In some sense, MSTR/Saylor proclaims to be price insensitive, which is a form of DCA, yet they had been using the increases in their stock prices as a way to raise money to buy more bitcoin. .which maybe is strange in some sense as we see that it still likely ends up diluting the shares, even though they were proclaiming their practices to be accretive since they were using the money to buy bitcoin.
You can look at the 200-WMA and see what the cost would have had been for anyone buying bitcoin at a steady pace over the past 4 years, and
right now the 200-WMA is nearly $57k.
You can also calculate various DCA amounts within selected periods using DCA calculating tools, such as this one:
https://newhedge.io/bitcoin/dollar-cost-averaging-calculator It might give you the same or similar results as using AI.
Of course, we know that MSTR really started going to town on their BTC buys starting from the November 2024 Trump pump, and that is when the money really started flowing into MSTR. What were they supposed to do? Keep some of that in cash? Yeah maybe they should have had held back some money for buying on dips, but that has not been MSTR/Saylor's BTC accumulating philosophy or the premise upon which they were receiving money to buy bitcoin.
I have never said that I completely agree with MSTR/Saylor's approach, yet I am not claiming to understand it either, since it does seem to be a strategy to use other people's money to buy bitcoin that is largely controlled by the company and they generally have figured out ways to not have constraints on what they can do with money that is raised.. whether money is being thrown at them or they are taking actions to dilute shares (while saying that they are not diluting, since they are using the money to buy bitcoin).
34. Post 66237442 (unedited backup) (by Rikafip) (scraped on Tue Dec 30 17:07:19 CET 2025) in Brief monthly overview of the local board activity:
Here is the updated race with the data!
Thank you once again, overview has been updated.
I am impressed by how much posts Nigerians are able to do per month! More than double than the second place, the russian board.
Their numbers are indeed impressive, but just a few years ago, russians were writing 4x more. Forum was generally much more activbe then though.
How long have you been doing this? I'm glad that some things on this forum haven't changed since my return and are still here.
In a few months its going to be six 6 years since I started this, and no plans to stopping as long as I am active here.
When will you share the local statistics on the Croatian local board?
Later today.

35. Post 66237257 (unedited backup) (by tbct_mt2) (scraped on Tue Dec 30 16:24:55 CET 2025) in Betpanda.io | Anonymous Crypto Casino | Welcome Bonus Up to 1BTC:
I see this as a privacy risk and exposure, not a security problem.
They can see which websites you accessed, so they (the hotel owner) can see you are playing in betpanda, but he can't log in betpanda.
And betpanda also detects that you are using a public wifi, so if other person is using the same public wifi to log into betpanda, they won't accuse you of multi-accounting or whatever...
They will or will not make that accusation against you of multi-accounting simply by IP address and logins. It is possibly an automatic tool triggers something against your account like restrict it to access the site again but if it is multi-accounting accusation, I believe that Betpanda or any casino will need to have more evidence for it.
They will check and investigate some accounts that login from a same IP address with other activities like how they bet, their bet styles, active bet hours and so on. In some appeals from users to such multi-accounting accusations, some casinos investigated and answered like this. I remember most about cases at FortuneJack with their answers and screenshots that blur some personal information of users.
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39. Post 66235356 (unedited backup) (by ESG) (scraped on Tue Dec 30 03:11:07 CET 2025) in TresOitao e PabloMarçal:
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Acho que ele faz uma contribuição interessante para o bitcoin no brasil, estimulando auto custódia e a compra do bitcoin.
Sim, ele faz uma grande contribuiçao ao BTC,
com cursos gartis pra quem nao sabe nada e etc,
mas depois que ele começou a parfticipar de podcasts,
ele esta conseguindo alcançar um publico mais seletivo,
claro, alem de ter aumentado o alcance em geral,
surgiu varios golpistas usando o nome dele... hahaha...
(nao sei como funciona aqui,... )
Aqui pode-se falar sobre tudo, ainda mais que é algo ligado ao Bitcoin.
Obrigado.
...o problema de falar de tudo, que eu ja falo demais, rsss....
entao tenho tentado evitar de falar ..hehehe...
mas , eu nao sou muito fan de Marçal nao viu, tipo do cara ser superior... mas nesse video ae, é beminteressante, porque os dois sao inteligentes... e no final ele convence o marçal a comprar btc hahaha...
..entao to mudando o nome do topico, e tirando o nome do marçal, e vou adicionar mais uns dois ou tres videos ineteressante dele...38tao, ...
...
.. Sim ele super semelhante ao Daniel, mas a diferença,
que Daniel sumiu sem responder todos processos,
e ele esta repondendo...hehhee e nao é pouco.
no caso, esse video dele que estou deixando aqui ,
eu acho bem interessante tambem, pois estao tres figuras importaissimas,
sendo duas, que ajudaram o btc a crescer aqui,
mas o video apesar de falarem bem sobre BTC,
assunto é sobre o sistema de trade emA I Saturno V, do Hildenburg Melão, o Q I mais alto do Brasil.
> Análise Fundamental, Técnica e Conceitual | Hindemburg Melão, Renato Amoedo e Fausto Botelho

e mais esse do Renato e o Hildenburg, no RedCast.

esses videos tem muita informaçao e conhecimento.
com o tempo vou adicionando mais,
para informaçao e conhecimento somente,
se quiser adicionar mais videos dele, à vontade.
... de acordo com que ele vem dizendo, ele vai sair fora,
mais pretende voltar hehehe locomemo..
40. Post 66235292 (unedited backup) (by clayderman) (scraped on Tue Dec 30 02:13:31 CET 2025) in Novo no Bitcointalk: começando meus estudos sobre Bitcoin:
Obrigado pela recomendação, Bitmover.
Já conhecia o Antonopoulos de nome, mas ainda não tinha parado para estudar com mais atenção.
Vou começar pelos vídeos e depois ler o Mastering Bitcoin.
Agradeço por compartilhar o material.
41. Post 66235062 (unedited backup) (by Smartvirus) (scraped on Tue Dec 30 00:16:25 CET 2025) in Betpanda.io | Anonymous Crypto Casino | Welcome Bonus Up to 1BTC:
Certainly a hacker who can hack computer in public wi-fi wont be targeting poor cryptocurrency gamblers here

That’s in the event they know that you are poor or broke but, hackers can be weird at times, they would just want to get along with it just to prove that they can, test themselves maybe and have an orgasm doing it.
A good hacker that is able to hack public wi-fi will certainly be looking for much bigger fish... People with much more money, not just a few bucks or at most a few hundreds dollars in a casino
That’s in the case of hackers only having to hack for monetary purposes. Some of them are out there for what credentials they could get from a KYC activated account, documents they can sell and use in other illicit purposes.
hacks usually happen when the password is compromised in some way. A large number of users set passwords with their birthday, children's names or similar, which is quite easy to "hack". Even the most famous hacks happened because the developer leaked the password.
Very far from what we see in the Hollywood movies
Yeah, there is always a weak link that would be attacked and it always comes from compromise.
42. Post 66234663 (unedited backup) (by khaled0111) (scraped on Mon Dec 29 22:32:20 CET 2025) in Betpanda.io | Anonymous Crypto Casino | Welcome Bonus Up to 1BTC:
You guys are being too paranoid. There isn't much problem to use public wifi when gambling, using cryptoexchanges or whatever (as long as your device isn't infected with malware).
Not really sure about this as it depends on the public network you are connected to and how that network is configured.
But, as you said, if you are certain that you didn’t do anything wrong and didn’t intentionally breach the service/casino’s terms, then there is nothing to be afraid of.
43. Post 66234578 (unedited backup) (by examplens) (scraped on Mon Dec 29 22:08:50 CET 2025) in Betpanda.io | Anonymous Crypto Casino | Welcome Bonus Up to 1BTC:
Yeah, certainly hack is not a risk
Certainly a hacker who can hack computer in public wi-fi wont be targeting poor cryptocurrency gamblers here

A good hacker that is able to hack public wi-fi will certainly be looking for much bigger fish... People with much more money, not just a few bucks or at most a few hundreds dollars in a casino
hacks usually happen when the password is compromised in some way. A large number of users set passwords with their birthday, children's names or similar, which is quite easy to "hack". Even the most famous hacks happened because the developer leaked the password.
Very far from what we see in the Hollywood movies
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You guys are being too paranoid. There isn't much problem to use public wifi when gambling, using cryptoexchanges or whatever (as long as your device isn't infected with malware).
The casino will identify that the user is using a public network, it can be determined (with high probability) using the IP. Public networks such as airports have a different IP than a private network.
Yeah, you're right; I don't understand why some people become overly paranoid as well. The casino can spot which IPs are your most frequent ones, if you're logging in 100 times from your hometown in Germany for instance, and you login once from Poland, the casino won't suddenly flag you for one IP that may be public or a VPN. It requires much more incidents than this to cause issues with your account. Even in the unlikely event of it happening, they'll first ask for KYC, if you have no issues complying, you'll be okay.
Can understand where those peeps coming from there are lots of ways how to hack public wifi but of course only hand full dudes can do that. While changing wifi, device are normal to people, casinos won't just flag someone just because of the ip address changes, especially for a casino that accepts VPN use. As long you're not coming from a restricted country changing VPN server from country to another is just okay.
Yeah, certainly hack is not a risk
Certainly a hacker who can hack computer in public wi-fi wont be targeting poor cryptocurrency gamblers here

A good hacker that is able to hack public wi-fi will certainly be looking for much bigger fish... People with much more money, not just a few bucks or at most a few hundreds dollars in a casino
Meaning, through public Wi-Fi, hackers can see potential prospects who would be most profitable for them, and they might ignore those who only offer small, insignificant gains?
Also, in my knowledge, public Wi-Fi is really prone to hacking, and this is something the majority of people don't actually know. Some even really wish for public Wi-Fi access, especially in low-income communities or compounds. It’s no wonder so many people get hacked, because some hackers might see 'small change' as worth it if they can gather enough of it from many people to make a large sum.
45. Post 66234114 (unedited backup) (by sabotag3x) (scraped on Mon Dec 29 19:57:02 CET 2025) in TresOitao e PabloMarçal:
(nao sei como funciona aqui, e acredito ser offtopic, mas só encontrei essa opção, pode remover sem problema. )
Aqui pode-se falar sobre tudo, ainda mais que é algo ligado ao Bitcoin.
Eu acho o Renato 38tao uma figura interessante, apesar de polêmica, e das bobagens que ele fala sobre mulheres e religião. Tem que relevar muito do que ele fala, mas dá pra extrair coisas boas.
Acho que ele faz uma contribuição interessante para o bitcoin no brasil, estimulando auto custódia e a compra do bitcoin.
Tenho a mesma opinião, também não concordo muito com a parte de religião/mulheres.. mas ele se tornou o "Daniel Fraga" dessa geração em relação ao Bitcoin.. é um dos únicos que furou a bolha e é conhecido fora desse meio.
46. Post 66234086 (unedited backup) (by sabotag3x) (scraped on Mon Dec 29 19:50:25 CET 2025) in Exchange Roxom — Mercado de Capitais em Bitcoin:
Interessante esse SP500, nunca vi negociando em lugar nenhum esse ticker. Até procurei no coinmarketcap , mas não está lá.
Me parece que o token tem um risco alto da parte do emissor...
É futuros.. você não possui o token, não tem como depositar/sacar/etc.. só possui uma posição (long/short)..
Vamos ver como será o mercado spot, tem muitas exchanges que já começaram a listar ações tokenizadas, mas nenhuma contra BTC.
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You guys are being too paranoid. There isn't much problem to use public wifi when gambling, using cryptoexchanges or whatever (as long as your device isn't infected with malware).
The casino will identify that the user is using a public network, it can be determined (with high probability) using the IP. Public networks such as airports have a different IP than a private network.
Yeah, you're right; I don't understand why some people become overly paranoid as well. The casino can spot which IPs are your most frequent ones, if you're logging in 100 times from your hometown in Germany for instance, and you login once from Poland, the casino won't suddenly flag you for one IP that may be public or a VPN. It requires much more incidents than this to cause issues with your account. Even in the unlikely event of it happening, they'll first ask for KYC, if you have no issues complying, you'll be okay.
Can understand where those peeps coming from there are lots of ways how to hack public wifi but of course only hand full dudes can do that. While changing wifi, device are normal to people casinos won't just flag someone just because of the ip address changes, especially for a casino that accepts VPN use. As long you're not coming from a restricted country changing VPN server from country to another is just okay.
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You guys are being too paranoid. There isn't much problem to use public wifi when gambling, using cryptoexchanges or whatever (as long as your device isn't infected with malware).
The casino will identify that the user is using a public network, it can be determined (with high probability) using the IP. Public networks such as airports have a different IP than a private network.
Yeah, you're right; I don't understand why some people become overly paranoid as well. The casino can spot which IPs are your most frequent ones, if you're logging in 100 times from your hometown in Germany for instance, and you login once from Poland, the casino won't suddenly flag you for one IP that may be public or a VPN.
49. Post 66233271 (unedited backup) (by asUHWEceyc) (scraped on Mon Dec 29 16:56:07 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:
scam top, scam bear done?
gyna pumps precious metals
demoralize all
Even though I frequently proclaim that I don't know where we are going, the 200-WMA can tell us where we are at.. and so we can see how far the BTC price is relative to the 200-WMA, which
currently with the BTC price at $87,6000 and the 200-WMA at $56,700, we are about 55% above the 200-WMA.
Why use any other indicator, except maybe because other folks are using other indicators?
The 100-WMA can be helpful to see when the BTC price might get stuck between the 100-WMA and the 200-WMA.. then maybe that could be a sign that we are in a bear market or to confirm that we had entered a bear market.
The 100-WMA is right around $83,600. By the way the 100-WMA can also be referred to as the 2 year moving average.
A problem with these indicators is that they can be gamed.. so then maybe if we stay below a price (such as the 100-WMA) for long enough, then maybe we will start to conclude that we have transitioned into a bear market.
I suppose that ultimately I like the 200-WMA since so far it is always moving up and it tends to take out a lo tof the shorter-term noise.. so it tells us where we are at, but not necessarily where we are going.. ..same with any of the indicators, even though surely we might try to extract some data from the various indicators to throw in a predictive element into the mix.
Of course, if you translate the 200 DMA into the weekly moving average then that is merely the 7 week moving average, which seems a bit short, which I suppose is the point, since we can compare the shorter with the longer and come up with some ideas about whetehr the trend has changed or if the trend is moving in a certain direction.
The 200 day is a decent short term goal post- but it's acted like a long term trend indicator with the volatility and limited history in this market, hence folks like Trace Mayer incorporating it so heavily. 4- and 2- year averages woulda been glacially long-term for coin in say, 2020 or earlier.
Spot bouncing ~5-10% above the 100 week provides essentially the same information: price is low, but not ugly by historical standards with recency bias removed- objectively not as bad as sentiment might indicate, and well above historical "bear markets". Equally as lukewarm as the lackluster October top.
If coin fails to retrace substantially from here and/or makes new ATHs next year, 4-year cycles may only be relevant insofar as the number of blocks between mining reward halvings.
Bitcoin is great at smashing price whisperer gurus' credibility- masterluc, planb, and now bob loukas.
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You guys are being too paranoid. There isn't much problem to use public wifi when gambling...
There’s actually a basis for being paranoid here. Maybe you haven’t experienced issues using different Wi-Fi networks while gambling, but I’ve read reports about this before. It might not be standard across all casinos, maybe just random ones, but the risk is still there.
That’s why I’m just being cautious. If using the same Wi-Fi in one household can already be risky, then public Wi-Fi is obviously much worse. That’s the logic behind it.
51. Post 66231027 (unedited backup) (by BTCETFInvestor) (scraped on Mon Dec 29 02:58:43 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:
Found on reddit:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pwi5pc/30_bitcoin_cycle_top_indicators_zero_triggered/The thesis is that there are only two possibilities:
1. All previously designed top indicators (
my comment-except the number of days passed post halving) are faulty.
2. This was not the top.
I think that the top was not in, but the day passed and a perfect fit with expected plus the diminishing return projected value might suggest otherwise.
Currently, I am 70:30 on this (70%-not yet, 30% -yes, we did hit the top in October).
Alternatively, we are switching to a more stock-market-like cycles with unpredictable ebbs and flows.
The 200dma was pierced on 11/04 for only the third time since mid-23: 1)for 8 days fully, but around two weeks back in 9/24 bottoming at 10% below; and 2)for a couple days in a less sustained manner circa Liberation Day `25. This has by far been the deepest, longest sustained correction since 2022.
But,
we're still floating well above Jay's favorite 200wma metric (true bear indicator IMO) and a mere ~30% off the lackluster high, however it's approaching 2 months under the prior lowest level.
If 4year astrology proves to still be a thing, there's at least 9ish months of sideways-downity remaining: a dumbfoundingly difficult task with Trump Inc. pamping eet in an election year. $1776, 2026, etc
4-year Cycle RulesBear low does not violate prior ATHPrevious ATH is not exceeded until after halvingQ4 of year following halving yields parabolic* ATH- Subsequent 12-24 month bear market, 78+% drawdown
*llamabolic Even though I frequently proclaim that I don't know where we are going, the 200-WMA can tell us where we are at.. and so we can see how far the BTC price is relative to the 200-WMA, which
currently with the BTC price at $87,6000 and the 200-WMA at $56,700, we are about 55% above the 200-WMA.
Why use any other indicator, except maybe because other folks are using other indicators?
The 100-WMA can be helpful to see when the BTC price might get stuck between the 100-WMA and the 200-WMA.. then maybe that could be a sign that we are in a bear market or to confirm that we had entered a bear market.
The 100-WMA is right around $83,600. By the way the 100-WMA can also be referred to as the 2 year moving average.
A problem with these indicators is that they can be gamed.. so then maybe if we stay below a price (such as the 100-WMA) for long enough, then maybe we will start to conclude that we have transitioned into a bear market.
I suppose that ultimately I like the 200-WMA since so far it is always moving up and it tends to take out a lo tof the shorter-term noise.. so it tells us where we are at, but not necessarily where we are going.. ..same with any of the indicators, even though surely we might try to extract some data from the various indicators to throw in a predictive element into the mix.
Of course, if you translate the 200 DMA into the weekly moving average then that is merely the 7 week moving average, which seems a bit short, which I suppose is the point, since we can compare the shorter with the longer and come up with some ideas about whetehr the trend has changed or if the trend is moving in a certain direction.
I suppose the Doctors (et al) are working to figure out your diagnosis. Hopefully nothing too serious.
Quickly looking at some pulse oximeter information, I see that even below 92% could be worrisome if it is an accurate reading and not due to measuring device errors... so loss of consciousness and brain damage could start to kick in when in the lower 80%s... so it seems that 70% would have had put you into unconsciousness...and brain dead.. so hopefully that low measurement was due to measurement variability rather than reading an accurate blood/oxygen level.
It didn't take them long to figure out what was wrong... common pneumonia. You probably know that streptococcus pneumoniae normally exists in all our bodies and will develop into pneumonia when we are weakened by other diseases. I knew I'd picked up some kind of flu or other virus several weeks ago. I guess that triggered the pneumonia. Before I even called a cab I started myself on prednisone which my respirologist had given to me to use at my discretion in case of an emergency. At the hospital they quickly started me on amoxiclav and continued my prednisone.
My main reason to stay was oxygen. Because of the holiday short staffing, there was a bit of a mixup. The nurses monitoring my oxygen levels tried to keep my oximeter readings up in the high nineties. When an actual respirologist came in and saw what was happening she explained that after years of COPD my system had adapted and that my new normal was the 88-92 range and that the occasional dips into the high 70s was acceptable. By late yesterday we'd achieved these levels without extra oxygen so they discharged me.
They just make up shit as they go.. so that they can release you without feeling legally liable.

I am glad that things were pinpointed and the issue was not more serious - or at least if you have a path forward to potentially just to get back to what you had been in previously and assuming recovery after taking the antibiotics and the steroids. I heard that people can have issues with prednisone.. as with any systematic medications.
Do you smoke or vape?
Popped in to say hi
Nice arguments all around
Cycle end or not?
#haikuspeakingfeelslikeyoda
Hi.
Regarding cycle: Both. Cycle theory is still in effect, meaning that this cycle is over. At the same time, we have not bounced out of the bull market yet... So go figure!!!!
I don't know what takes us out of this particular bull market. I suppose if we go below the 100-WMA for any meaningful amount of time (which is currently $83.6k).. that might help to take us out of it.. but going below the 100WMA with some kind of conviction might really help.. which would be a bit devastating to see folks actually selling at that price, unless it were to just be paper bitcoin playing some attempted manipulation, which might not end well for them..
Of course, with price movements there is a time element and there is also an amount of movement element too, so maybe the next two weeks are critical
tm, to see what happens to dee cornz, if anything, or will we continue to just be stuck in our current $86k to $94k narrow range for extended periods, or maybe we will be stuck in a broader $82k to $108k range or maybe we can bounce out of such broader range in order to get real and meaningful relief?
From my perspective, it is like an ongoing toss-up situation. What else is new?
We have been in these kind of toss up places in previous times and for long periods of time, and no one really knows what might or might not happen when we are in a toss up area, even though HODLers get frustrated by the lack of up that seems to be happening.
It was supposed to be the case that we were out of the stucked-ness range on December 26th from the closing of the end of the month options, but that has been almost 2 days ago and we are still flat as a pancake in the past two days.
Is someone trying to kill us through boredom?
My full name is Philip M.... = (middle) A.... = (last)
no-one I have found has that name but me.
I have searched my full name on the net since 1997 only I show up.
In retrospect using my full name for me email in 1996 was not a good choice for privacy.
But I was not a particularly rich person just working middle class guy.
In fact I was yet to have owned a new car in 1996.
So I had no issues about my privacy.
Phil - Yeah, you do have an extremely rare last name, and when putting your first and middle name with it - your full name is the only one on the planet! It's definitely not a Smith, Jones, Johnson or Williams! Even your wife has a relatively rare last name.
This is getting sicker and sicker... and Phil is just playing along with the further and further and further unnecessary, irrelevant and even invasive probing.
Femininity is being scorned at, though, with 90-100lb lady(ies) kicking the asses of the burly 230-250lb men, allegedly, as depicted in "Furiosa".
For sure, problematic to detach so thoroughly with reality - and the tragedies of sex alteration surgery in young folk is problematic too.. .. which is it any worse to be thinking that man can actually travel to places outside of earth to live? There can be some value in fantasy, yet it gets a bit detached from reality sometimes... .. which even life extension frequently seems more of a fantasy rather than a reality.
JJG - I may send Phil an email just to say howdy - but just to make you OpSec happy, I'd do it from one of my alias accounts.

52. Post 66230954 (unedited backup) (by mikel_012) (scraped on Mon Dec 29 01:32:55 CET 2025) in Betpanda.io | Anonymous Crypto Casino | Welcome Bonus Up to 1BTC:
You guys are being too paranoid. There isn't much problem to use public wifi when gambling, using cryptoexchanges or whatever (as long as your device isn't infected with malware).
The casino will identify that the user is using a public network, it can be determined (with high probability) using the IP. Public networks such as airports have a different IP than a private network.
Yes, I agree. When you use a VPN you also share your connection with other people so you are changing one problem for the other if you think casinos will ban you because of the same connection from many accounts.
And I think with https and encryption there is no need to use VPN for security reasons anymore. VPN is good if you want privacy and if you don't want the connection provider to know what website you access, but this is the only reason to use a VPN now.
53. Post 66230340 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Sun Dec 28 22:19:43 CET 2025) in Buy every dip, and HODL!:
There is no need to try to talk nice about trading. It is a dumb thing to do - except maybe someone trying to learn trading and/or unable to control their inclinations to degenerately gamble, then maybe they could at least limit the size of their trading to be no more than 10% the size of their bitcoin investment.. without cheating.. Without taking more out of bitcoin to trade, so if they start out with 10% into trading, then every time they get paid and they allocate funds into bitcoin investment, they can take 10% of that to put into their trading funds.
Yeah, they are quite likely to lose money on their trading funds, especially after a couple of cycles, yet if they are able to control themselves they can measure and find out if they are even able to keep up their trading for 8 years.. and you never know... Maybe they might have figured out some system to not lose money relative to their investment holdings.
I agree with you that trading is really a dumb thing to do as far as bitcoin investment is concerned, anyone trading his bitcoin for quick profit is losing a lot, because in the future they will be the one regretting and saying had i know. look at examples of those who invested in bitcoin some years back, lets say 7 or 6 years ago and were able to hold it till this present time, and those who bought same years but couldn't hold themselves and they sell immediately for quick profit, you will see that those who were able to accumulate consistently and hold till now are probably having the last laugh, while those who couldn't remain consistent in accumulating and hold but decided to sell for quick profit are regretting their actions now.
And for all i know the only system they will want to figure out in order not to lose money is waiting for the dip to occur before they can buy bitcoin so that they will now sell immediately when they notice a quick rise in price which is also the dumbest thing to do because they will be waiting for the dip which might not even occur and they will miss out on several opportunities to add enough bitcoin stash to their portfolio, and some will even end up spending the money on something else because the dip have refused to come after waiting for so long which can cause them to abandon bitcoin investment totally.
That is correct.
The trader is in the wrong mindset, and even if he has great strategies, he is likely going to end up in times that he does not own any bitcoin and the bitcoin price shoots up (or goes up another step on the ladder without ever coming back down), and bitcoin has done such stair-stepping several times in its history.
It is almost impossible to know when the stair stepping will occur.
Another thing is that a beginner bitcoiner (who is a normal person) usually does not have a lump sum that they can start out buying bitcoin and then figure out some sell price target so that they can then establish a buy back price target, and frequently they would have had been better to not sell and then also to just keep buying on a regular basis as their money comes in.
Let's say that a person in his mid 30's who has an income of $30k had been investing in non-bitcoin investments in his 10 years prior to getting into bitcoin, started buying bitcoin 7 years ago (like in your example - let's say December 1, 2018), and he had around $50k in his regular investments (so he wanted to take $10k out to buy bitcoin) and then thereafter he would buy $100 per week. His goal was to be able to reach a point in which he can start to withdraw somewhere in the $80k per year from his bitcoin in 10-ish to 15-ish years, and he had a bit of flexibility in his timeline and he considers that his income might end up going up and he might be able to figure out ways to be more efficient in his spending, so he would likely increase his investment into bitcoin around 5% per year, so maybe we can say that he already averaged in vesting around $140 per week since December 1, 2018.
His initial investment of $10k ended up getting him 2.2 BTC, and his investing at $140 per week starting on December 1, 2018 caused him to invest $52k and to get 3 BTC up until now. So therefore
right now he had invested about $62k, and he has 5.2 BTC, which right now would support an income of about $29k per year, yet he wants to get to a point of being able to support an $80k per year income..
Maybe right now he is in his early 40s and he is making about $45k per year, and he figures that in the next 3-4 years, he would continue to invest anywhere between $160 to $220 per week into bitcoin, and he considers that
by mid 2029 he will have more than 6 BTC, which he considers to be enough or more than enough to be able to start to withdraw at a pace of $80k per year. And, surely, if he employs a sustainable withdrawal system, he is likely to be able to increase his withdrawal amount by 7% in dollar terms, each year.
None of this sound unrealistic for a person who might have had stayed serious in his accumulation, and sure, some folks cannot start with a lump sum, and they have to merely put together their weekly bitcoin buys from their income as it is coming in, and they have to figure an amount that is as aggressive as they are able to make it to be without overdoing it, since they will get set back if they overdo it, so whatever amount that they are able to invest into bitcoin, they may well need to also make sure that they are building up their cashflow management systems/practices (which means back up funds) as well. Anyone who insufficiently accounts for back up funds is putting himself into a position in which his bitcoin investment will be at risk.. so there should be a priority in protecting the bitcoin investment and making sure to have enough (or more than enough back up funds) at each step of the journey in building up the bitcoin investment size.
You can invest your money wherever you want. It is completely up to you. But if you can invest in Bitcoin, it can be the best investment of your life.
Long-term investment is able to bring profits in the long term. The biggest challenge of an investor is to survive in the market.
There is no certainty about this because we must remember that bitcoin is risky and whether or not the results are the best or not, we ourselves determine whether we are willing to be at risk and ready for all forms of consequences or not.
Being in bitcoin is indeed very profitable but not all who are in bitcoin will end well so this needs to be a consideration for those who want to be in bitcoin in order to prepare mentally in advance before really jumping in because not a few of those who are fomo but have a bad mentality actually have to end up with destruction in the end.
In addition, long-term investment does not make sure that we will profit especially when talking about the risks that are owned in bitcoin. We must remember that being in the long term in bitcoin is actually only to minimize risk not as a benchmark in profit even though the hope remains to profit but in bitcoin nothing can really be ascertained considering this is a risky asset.
Well red4slash you can not get carried away with the fact that Bitcoin is not a guaranteed investment. So far, Bitcoin investment has proven itself to profited at least more than 85% of long-term hodlers and has failed over 90% of traders if not more. In as much as it's not a guaranteed venturing, the already existing fact of percentage profit for long-term hodling is the key point and the encouragement to still carry on with the already working long-term approach.
Yes. We can see from bitcoin's price history that the long term investors in bitcoin would all be in profits right now as long as they errored on the side of buying bitcoin and holding it. If they sold their bitcoin or tried to trade it, then it is difficult to know their results.
Regarding the future, even though bitcoin's investment thesis seems ongoingly strong, we do not know its future price performance. We also don't know aspects of our own execution risk management and if we are going to be successful in the future or make mistakes.
It is problematic to view the future in certainties rather than in probabilistic terms. Sure, once the future plays out it has become certain at that time, yet if it is still in the future, then it is probabilistic with knowns, unknowns and some of them have higher likelihoods of happening than others, yet some of them are dependent on the happening or the non-happening of others.
A trader Always has the right thinking plan, management and patience are important, they do not chase profits, they consider the momentum first, and on the other hand, beginners want to make more money in shortcuts, this is the biggest problem, this is why long-term investment in trading is the most for new users, and Dca is more secure, the impact of market fluctuations is reduced and the mental stress is less, only then should you think about trading, before that, seeing Bitcoin as a long-term asset and being patient is the best way.
I feel like you're saying that trading is okay as long as you can control your emotions and manage risk well, but I don't think that's really the case. Because believe me, trading is not something that can be done easily. Because basically, the risks are very high. Because I also tried trading for a while, and even though I learned a lot, I still couldn't do anything. That's why I've come to the conclusion that investing in Bitcoin is far better and safer. Because I've experienced it myself, trading is not an easy thing to do. So rather than letting ourselves and our money fall into a high-risk abyss, it's better to just invest in Bitcoin. Because when you invest in Bitcoin, it certainly won't interfere with your work in the real world. Therefore, I believe we should not make the wrong move, because if we make even one wrong move, believe me, it will shatter your mentality.
I get you, trading can sound simple on the surface, but once you are inside it, you just realize how brutal it is. The risk is not just about money, it is mental. You can study, practice, learn strategies, and still end up on the wrong side of the market. One wrong move and you have mess with your confidence and mindset.
That is why I agree that trading is not for everyone. Even with discipline and risk management, it is still very demanding and time consuming. I will just advise anyone to stay away if possible, because sometimes it even affects your real life work if you are not careful.
If bitcoin's already existing pattern is that you need to be in bitcoin on around 10 days of the year in order to be profitable, and if you are fucking around trading, then you might not be in bitcoin on the days that you need to be in bitcoin in order to be profitable, so you end up fucking up an otherwise good thing because you choose to play around trying to trade it, and then you miss out because you are on in on the days that you need to be in. Sure, you might get lucky, yet it seems problematic to be trying to take chances, when bitcoin has been one of the best, if not the best place to put money, especially over 4-10 years or longer... and sure the longer that a person has been building their bitcoin stack, the better the personal financial results... especially for those just buying and holding and not trying to trade or to sell and to try to buy back cheaper.
54. Post 66230206 (unedited backup) (by Obim34) (scraped on Sun Dec 28 21:45:43 CET 2025) in Post your Bitcointalk unpopular opinion(s) here :
I think there are too much campaigns forcing users to post there, which is unnecessary and incentives spam (imo). But it also incentives community support, which is good.
Premier League Discussion, La Liga Discussion, so on and so forth are full of spam? Yes, we can find spam on several pages, but i think the interaction in those threads changes, each week has its own discussion based on the performances of the teams on how they concluded the fixtures.
I'm asking for clarity, do you consider mega threads like the above to be truly low valued, considering there is always new events to discuss each week for a whole 35-38 league matches?
55. Post 66229962 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Sun Dec 28 20:37:25 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:
Found on reddit:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pwi5pc/30_bitcoin_cycle_top_indicators_zero_triggered/The thesis is that there are only two possibilities:
1. All previously designed top indicators (
my comment-except the number of days passed post halving) are faulty.
2. This was not the top.
I think that the top was not in, but the day passed and a perfect fit with expected plus the diminishing return projected value might suggest otherwise.
Currently, I am 70:30 on this (70%-not yet, 30% -yes, we did hit the top in October).
Alternatively, we are switching to a more stock-market-like cycles with unpredictable ebbs and flows.
The 200dma was pierced on 11/04 for only the third time since mid-23: 1)for 8 days fully, but around two weeks back in 9/24 bottoming at 10% below; and 2)for a couple days in a less sustained manner circa Liberation Day `25. This has by far been the deepest, longest sustained correction since 2022.
But,
we're still floating well above Jay's favorite 200wma metric (true bear indicator IMO) and a mere ~30% off the lackluster high, however it's approaching 2 months under the prior lowest level.
If 4year astrology proves to still be a thing, there's at least 9ish months of sideways-downity remaining: a dumbfoundingly difficult task with Trump Inc. pamping eet in an election year. $1776, 2026, etc
4-year Cycle RulesBear low does not violate prior ATHPrevious ATH is not exceeded until after halvingQ4 of year following halving yields parabolic* ATH- Subsequent 12-24 month bear market, 78+% drawdown
*llamabolic Even though I frequently proclaim that I don't know where we are going, the 200-WMA can tell us where we are at.. and so we can see how far the BTC price is relative to the 200-WMA, which
currently with the BTC price at $87,6000 and the 200-WMA at $56,700, we are about 55% above the 200-WMA.
Why use any other indicator, except maybe because other folks are using other indicators?
The 100-WMA can be helpful to see when the BTC price might get stuck between the 100-WMA and the 200-WMA.. then maybe that could be a sign that we are in a bear market or to confirm that we had entered a bear market.
The 100-WMA is right around $83,600. By the way the 100-WMA can also be referred to as the 2 year moving average.
A problem with these indicators is that they can be gamed.. so then maybe if we stay below a price (such as the 100-WMA) for long enough, then maybe we will start to conclude that we have transitioned into a bear market.
I suppose that ultimately I like the 200-WMA since so far it is always moving up and it tends to take out a lo tof the shorter-term noise.. so it tells us where we are at, but not necessarily where we are going.. ..same with any of the indicators, even though surely we might try to extract some data from the various indicators to throw in a predictive element into the mix.
Of course, if you translate the 200 DMA into the weekly moving average then that is merely the 7 week moving average, which seems a bit short, which I suppose is the point, since we can compare the shorter with the longer and come up with some ideas about whetehr the trend has changed or if the trend is moving in a certain direction.
I suppose the Doctors (et al) are working to figure out your diagnosis. Hopefully nothing too serious.
Quickly looking at some pulse oximeter information, I see that even below 92% could be worrisome if it is an accurate reading and not due to measuring device errors... so loss of consciousness and brain damage could start to kick in when in the lower 80%s... so it seems that 70% would have had put you into unconsciousness...and brain dead.. so hopefully that low measurement was due to measurement variability rather than reading an accurate blood/oxygen level.
It didn't take them long to figure out what was wrong... common pneumonia. You probably know that streptococcus pneumoniae normally exists in all our bodies and will develop into pneumonia when we are weakened by other diseases. I knew I'd picked up some kind of flu or other virus several weeks ago. I guess that triggered the pneumonia. Before I even called a cab I started myself on prednisone which my respirologist had given to me to use at my discretion in case of an emergency. At the hospital they quickly started me on amoxiclav and continued my prednisone.
My main reason to stay was oxygen. Because of the holiday short staffing, there was a bit of a mixup. The nurses monitoring my oxygen levels tried to keep my oximeter readings up in the high nineties. When an actual respirologist came in and saw what was happening she explained that after years of COPD my system had adapted and that my new normal was the 88-92 range and that the occasional dips into the high 70s was acceptable. By late yesterday we'd achieved these levels without extra oxygen so they discharged me.
They just make up shit as they go.. so that they can release you without feeling legally liable.

I am glad that things were pinpointed and the issue was not more serious - or at least if you have a path forward to potentially just to get back to what you had been in previously and assuming recovery after taking the antibiotics and the steroids. I heard that people can have issues with prednisone.. as with any systematic medications.
Do you smoke or vape?
Popped in to say hi
Nice arguments all around
Cycle end or not?
#haikuspeakingfeelslikeyoda
Hi.
Regarding cycle: Both. Cycle theory is still in effect, meaning that this cycle is over. At the same time, we have not bounced out of the bull market yet... So go figure!!!!
I don't know what takes us out of this particular bull market. I suppose if we go below the 100-WMA for any meaningful amount of time (which is currently $83.6k).. that might help to take us out of it.. but going below the 100WMA with some kind of conviction might really help.. which would be a bit devastating to see folks actually selling at that price, unless it were to just be paper bitcoin playing some attempted manipulation, which might not end well for them..
Of course, with price movements there is a time element and there is also an amount of movement element too, so maybe the next two weeks are critical
tm, to see what happens to dee cornz, if anything, or will we continue to just be stuck in our current $86k to $94k narrow range for extended periods, or maybe we will be stuck in a broader $82k to $108k range or maybe we can bounce out of such broader range in order to get real and meaningful relief?
From my perspective, it is like an ongoing toss-up situation. What else is new?
We have been in these kind of toss up places in previous times and for long periods of time, and no one really knows what might or might not happen when we are in a toss up area, even though HODLers get frustrated by the lack of up that seems to be happening.
It was supposed to be the case that we were out of the stucked-ness range on December 26th from the closing of the end of the month options, but that has been almost 2 days ago and we are still flat as a pancake in the past two days.
Is someone trying to kill us through boredom?
My full name is Philip M.... = (middle) A.... = (last)
no-one I have found has that name but me.
I have searched my full name on the net since 1997 only I show up.
In retrospect using my full name for me email in 1996 was not a good choice for privacy.
But I was not a particularly rich person just working middle class guy.
In fact I was yet to have owned a new car in 1996.
So I had no issues about my privacy.
Phil - Yeah, you do have an extremely rare last name, and when putting your first and middle name with it - your full name is the only one on the planet! It's definitely not a Smith, Jones, Johnson or Williams! Even your wife has a relatively rare last name.
This is getting sicker and sicker... and Phil is just playing along with the further and further and further unnecessary, irrelevant and even invasive probing.
Femininity is being scorned at, though, with 90-100lb lady(ies) kicking the asses of the burly 230-250lb men, allegedly, as depicted in "Furiosa".
For sure, problematic to detach so thoroughly with reality - and the tragedies of sex alteration surgery in young folk is problematic too.. .. which is it any worse to be thinking that man can actually travel to places outside of earth to live? There can be some value in fantasy, yet it gets a bit detached from reality sometimes... .. which even life extension frequently seems more of a fantasy rather than a reality.
56. Post 66229211 (unedited backup) (by OcTradism) (scraped on Sun Dec 28 17:12:38 CET 2025) in At what point does HODLing stop being a strategy and become emotional?:
I don't think we have to exit at the top. I mean, in an ideal world sure, but predicting the top has always been hard, don't beat yourself up if you didn't exit at the top or near the top. It happens. As long as you're in profit, you're good.
But to be honest, with bitcoin, I still think we haven't topped yet lol because crypto adoption has just started, and more folks will jump in over time.
Predictions are hard to accurate and timing the market when it happens is harder. Combining price prediction and the time is impossible so just don't try to do the hard things.
Investment with DCA, buying bitcoin regularly with time, and holding your bitcoin with time for profit. Investors can have plans to accumulate and hold in one cycle, two or three cycles, even longer, but when they want to take profit, they can sell gradually too. It's like DCA out for taking profit that does not need to time the market for the top for exits.
This strategy of JJG can help too.
[ANN] JJG Sustainable Bitcoin Withdrawal Strategyhttps://bitcoindata.science/withdrawal-strategy
57. Post 66229082 (unedited backup) (by libert19) (scraped on Sun Dec 28 16:38:13 CET 2025) in Post your Bitcointalk unpopular opinion(s) here :
I partly agree as well. I don't know if people think that discussions on other gambling forums are at the level of statistics professors.
Personally, I ain't fan of any particular type of discussions, just be genuine/authentic, it's all I care for.
Ok, that's a good one, and I agree with it.
Here is mine:
The late adopters of bitcoin, yet to born (or bitcoin is too costly to invest).
Many are worrying on current high price of bitcoin to invest with. But in my opinion, we need to console ourselves with the future prices like $1M or $10M. When all 21 million supply to be mined out only after 100+ years, I am sure that the people who are accumulating right now are still in early phase only. If bitcoin is costing ~100k for early adopters, how much it would cost for late adopters? So, go for DCA freely coz it is still cheaper.
It's not pertaining to forum but ok.
58. Post 66228989 (unedited backup) (by Forsyth Jones) (scraped on Sun Dec 28 16:13:13 CET 2025) in Dados de merit da nossa aba local:
Houve realmente um crescimento alto de meritos em circulação na aba local, que se consolidou nesses últimos 6 meses do ano. muito bom, muito graças a particpação do joker_josue.
Faz-se o que se pode...
Por outro lado, temos tido uma pequena baixa de atividade, face o que tínhamos alguns meses atras. Mas, continua haver boa qualidade, que é o mais importante.
A nossa board portuguesa só não é a maior por conta da quantidade, porém acredito que apesar de ser board menor, temos membros de qualidade de sobra.
Eu espero estar contribuindo também, quem me conhece sabe que eu não economizo em enviar sMerits, principalmente quando eu vejo um post de qualidade!
Apesar de que, tem membro aí que nunca mais me enviou merit, será por contraste de posicionamento político?

Não que eu precise de mais merits, já que sou Legendary, eu não preciso mais subir de rank, mas tem coisas que a gente percebe

59. Post 66228841 (unedited backup) (by Don Pedro Dinero) (scraped on Sun Dec 28 15:35:43 CET 2025) in Post your Bitcointalk unpopular opinion(s) here :
I'll start by posting mine (this is my opinion, and you are free to disagree).
— Gambling discussion sub is not spam fest as it's usually deemed as.
I don't find it that way. But, I do not discount my ignorance here — I could feeling this way because I may have become 'comfortable' to spam that I don't find it spammy anymore!?
Off you go.
I partly agree.
I do think there is too much spam there. But there are some good discussions in the ANN of most casinos. Basically community support, which is by no mean spam.
I partly agree as well. I don't know if people think that discussions on other gambling forums are at the level of statistics professors. There are high-level discussions alongside opinions from degenerate gamblers trying to justify strategies such as the martingale with the most bizarre arguments.
I already stated my unpopular opinion. AI is a great tool for translating, and if you want to avoid accusations of plagiarism for using it for that purpose, here's a system that complies with the rules of bitcointalk:
How to use AI for translation without getting tagged or posts deleted.
60. Post 66227858 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Sun Dec 28 09:38:31 CET 2025) in Dados de merit da nossa aba local:
Houve realmente um crescimento alto de meritos em circulação na aba local, que se consolidou nesses últimos 6 meses do ano. muito bom, muito graças a particpação do joker_josue.
Faz-se o que se pode...
Por outro lado, temos tido uma pequena baixa de atividade, face o que tínhamos alguns meses atras. Mas, continua haver boa qualidade, que é o mais importante.
61. Post 66226290 (unedited backup) (by alegotardo) (scraped on Sat Dec 27 21:33:07 CET 2025) in Sorteio de Natal - R$ 80,00:
Mas óia só! Por essa nem eu esperava, esse fim de ano está sendo muito melhor do que eu esperava, agora só falta ganhar na mega da virada... sim, eu fiz meu bolão, não me julguem, pra ocmpensar eu prometo investir boa parte do valor em Bitcoins

Meu caro @rdluffy, pode enviar o pagamento para o endereço que está aqui no meu perfil mesmo, por favor: 3ALeGtaRdZXnPMmETeHaD3hrSxhz3sQinW
Após rodar o sorteio, o ganhador é: alegotardo
O universo tem seus preferidos mesmo.. o @alegotardo sempre vence esses sorteios

parabéns!
Bom final de ano para todos, especialmente para você que organizou mais um sorteio @rdluffy!
Nem vem, acho que esse é segundo ou terceiro premio que eu ganho nesses 8 anos de bitcointalk, nem mesmo na aba de Collectibles onde já participei muito eu ganhei algo até hoje.
Enfim, obrigado e parabéns pelo sorteio @rdluffy, sabemos que mais do que o prêmio em
BTC, o verdadeiro valor desses sorteios é o engajamento que ele gera aqui.
62. Post 66225839 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Sat Dec 27 19:19:19 CET 2025) in Bitcoin in the next decade :
In the next ten years, Bitcoin will reach a very good level in terms of popularity and we will see many positive changes in the market price of Bitcoin. If we want to get an idea about the next ten years by comparing it with the last 10 years, then the idea about Bitcoin is clear in front of us because we have seen that the popularity of Bitcoin has increased every year in the last ten years. But it is not like that in some years the popularity of Bitcoin has increased and in some years the popularity of Bitcoin has decreased. Maybe the price of Bitcoin has fluctuated, but overall the price of Bitcoin has touched the highest record this year. I have full confidence in the market and I think the Bitcoin market can touch one million dollars in the next 10 years, and I am investing with that target.
Bitcoin adoption is ongoing, and with fiat currencies losing value over time, it is almost certain that bitcoin will increase in price over the next 10 years.
However, although bitcoin has consistently reached ATH this year, we need to make one thing clear here. From 2021 to 2025, bitcoin increased from $69k to $126k, an increase of only about 80% in the last 4 years. Thereby, it is not too difficult to realize that the more mature bitcoin becomes, the slower its growth rate becomes.
Is it realistic to expect bitcoin to increase tenfold in the next 10 years?
I suggest that your measuring historical BTC prices from top to top is an inferior way to measure bitcoin, and it is likely better to measure bottom to bottom, including the use of averages (the 200-WMA) rather than spot price.
Currently the 200-WMA is $56,671, and [urlhttps://bitcoindata.science/withdrawal-strategy?U2FsdGVkX1+irzAPCq0pjnfyJXXUx16H4EyVJuP7sYCMqRBwXskCPJ6c4+W7Wnzxy+eDhhBwTHewHPGmU5TbhA==]4 years ago, the 200-WMA was $18,582[/url] - which is a 3x increase in the 200-WMA over the past 4 years.
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Wait, you are not making that calculation correctly, because $69k was the all-time high of Bitcoin in the last bull run, but it then went to $16k in the bear market, and then reached $126k in this bull run. So, technically, it increased 10 folds within that period, and if someone had bought at the bottom and kept holding until the recent times, they could easily get more than 9x in profits. So it's not like one can't get good profits, but it all depends on when they buy and then sell.
I agree that one shouldn't expect to get rich through Bitcoin investments anymore because that opportunity is long gone, but we can still get good profits if we buy during the bear market and then keep holding until the bull run and sell when the price is pretty high. Those who didn't sell when Bitcoin's price was above $120k are now regretting it because they could get good returns if they had done it.

There could be some value to measure from bottom to top rather than top to top, even though you are likely getting exaggerated depictions.
Another problem is your assumption that it would be a good idea to try to buy at the bottom and sell at the top, even if guys were to be capable of identifying such price extremes. Bitcoin seems like a much better investment rather than a thing that guys should be trying to gamble with.
If a person is investing rather than trading or gambling, then he would likely be spending way more time, energy and value to just ongoingly accumulate bitcoin for his first cycle or two of being involved in bitcoin. Of course, if he is able to reallocate from some other asset into bitcoin, then he can front load his bitcoin investment, yet most folks tend to have to invest from their regular income and/or other ways of gradually acquiring a bitcoin position rather than being able to front load their bitcoin investment. In other words it seems a bit short-sighted to be trying to trade bitcoin rather than building up the holdings over time, such as 4-10 years or beyond... .so the initial stages is buying bitcoin ONLY and not selling. There is no guarantee that a person will increase his bitcoin stash by selling, so it is better to just remove selling as part of the bitcoin accumulation strategy.
63. Post 66225298 (unedited backup) (by Rikafip) (scraped on Sat Dec 27 17:10:31 CET 2025) in Brief monthly overview of the local board activity:
Time has come for yet another brief monthly overview of local boards activity, this time a little bit later than in previous months. All charts and table are made using data from @DdmrDdmr
Merit Dashboard and BitList.
Communities marked with * (Pakistan, Bengali) don't have their own local boards yet.
Post activity per local board during November 2025After the last month's increase this time we have a drop of activity; from October's 14463 posts we dropped down to 13826 posts in November. Majority of this drop happened due decreased activity in two of the most active boards, Nigerian and Russian. Drop is not huge, therefore not concerning and I am confident that it was just a little bit weaker month.
Active members per local board during November 2025During the last month, 1445 members wrote at least one post in one of the local boards that are part of this overview, which is almost exactly the same as in October (1446). To be honest, I expected bigger drop than that considering the drop of the number of posts, but I guess people just wrote less, nothing else.
No changes at the top; Nigerian board far ahead the other, and Russia behind on the 2nd, after many years of dominating this, and majority of the other charts.
Local board members per amount of posts during November 2025When it comes to the percentage of members who wrote only 1 post in their board during November, leader is Polish local board with 58%, while at the same time Pilipinas board had only 12% of such members.
At the 2-9 posts bracket leader is French board with 67%, while Arabic board had the lowest percentage, only 25%.
Regarding the 10+ posts bracket, Portuguese and Pilipinas share the first spot, each having 53% of such members, while Romanian board had no members who wrote 10+ posts.
Merit shared per local board during November 2025During November, 7414 merit was shared across local board, which is a big drop compared to October's 8427 merit. The main cause of this major drop can be found in Nigerian board, whose number of merit shared went from 2241 to 1565. Other boards contributed to this drop as well, but majority of this is decreased happened there. Drop would be much bigger if German board didn't have a big increase in the same period.
Merit/Post ratio per local board during November 2025In November, an average merit per post across local boards was 0.54, which is an expected decrease compared to October's 0.56 and is continuation of the trend for several months now.
After losing the first spot for a couple of months, German local board is back at the top with a very high 1.66 ratio, but few others like Spanish, Italian, Arabic and Italian also have over 1+ merit per post which is an excellent ratio.
Merit senders and receivers per local board during November 2025During November, 536 members sent while 610 received merit, which is an expected drop compared to October (654 senders and 685 receivers) due fewer merit shared.
Merit per transaction across local boards during November 2025And for the end, the chart that shows us merit habits of each board. Arabic remained at the top, while German local board is not that far behind with also a very high merit per tx ratio, which is not surprise given their high merit per post ratio.
The most active members per local board during November 2025Last but not the least, the list of the most active local board members. This time the most active member was Julien_Olynpic from Russian local with 137 posts, close 2nd was joker_josue from Portuguese localwho wrote 135 posts while 3rd was the most active member of Turkish board, mandown, who wrote 127 posts. Keep it up guys!
64. Post 66224623 (unedited backup) (by LoyceV) (scraped on Sat Dec 27 14:41:07 CET 2025) in Complete overview of users on DT1 and DT2 and their ratings:
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krogothmanhattan (
Trust: +102 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (20) 4057 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
48. 1016855:
JollyGood (
Trust: +22 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (15) 1814 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
49. 1045971:
igebotz (
Trust: +18 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (12) 2147 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
50. 1051955:
roycilik (
Trust: +12 / =0 / -1) (
DT1! (1) 1906 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
51. 1052091:
CryptopreneurBrainboss (
Trust: +21 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (15) 5125 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
52. 1059082:
hugeblack (
Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (7) 4283 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
53. 1067333:
El duderino_ (
Trust: +27 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (10) 14944 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
54. 1097370:
KTChampions (
Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (7) 2146 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
55. 1099980:
Trofo (
Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (15) 3112 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
56. 1137579:
icopress (
Trust: +78 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (36) 11079 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
57. 1190631:
JeromeTash (
Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (5) 1318 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
58. 1247226:
logfiles (
Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (9) 2188 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
59. 1269497:
Bitcoin_Arena (
Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (5) 1986 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
60. 1285797:
GazetaBitcoin (
Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (16) 9031 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
61. 1291828:
TheBeardedBaby (
Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (14) 3334 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
62. 1424178:
mole0815 (
Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (10) 3139 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
63. 1554927:
bitmover (
Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (7) 7189 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
64. 1582324:
DdmrDdmr (
Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (21) 11227 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
65. 1634314:
shahzadafzal (
Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (2) 3191 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
66. 1668017:
anonymousminer (
Trust: +41 / =0 / -2) (
DT1! (7) 1358 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
67. 1724800:
Lakai01 (
Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (5) 3687 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
68. 1827294:
Husna QA (
Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (5) 3182 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
69. 1852120:
fillippone (
Trust: +12 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (21) 19547 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
70. 1862043:
cryptofrka (
Trust: +17 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (8) 2270 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
71. 1878246:
abhiseshakana (
Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (2) 2414 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
72. 1980983:
The Cryptovator (
Trust: +22 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (17) 2446 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
73. 1982152:
lovesmayfamilis (
Trust: +29 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (29) 5262 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
74. 2003859:
DireWolfM14 (
Trust: +17 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (16) 5221 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
75. 2015418:
notblox1 (
Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (0) 1489 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
76. 2344286:
Little Mouse (
Trust: +41 / =1 / -1) (
DT1! (8) 3273 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
77. 2363935:
YOSHIE (
Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (18) 1874 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
78. 2477002:
inspace (
Trust: +5 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (3) 1051 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
79. 2497429:
jokers10 (
Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (6) 3789 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
80. 2519096:
Awaklara (
Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (5) 815 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
81. 2597426:
efialtis (
Trust: +25 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (4) 1545 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
82. 2652924:
geophphreigh (
Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (6) 1103 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
83. 2654005:
zasad@ (
Trust: +2 / =3 / -0) (
DT1! (8) 5350 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
84. 2658890:
Rikafip (
Trust: +14 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (24) 7492 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
85. 2709122:
Etranger (
Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (4) 1762 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
86. 2739424:
NotATether (
Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (10) 9167 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
87. 2739454:
Stalker22 (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (8) 1532 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
88. 2744352:
bullrun2024bro (
Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (8) 5056 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
89. 2775483:
BlackHatCoiner (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (6) 9149 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
90. 2776678:
Charles-Tim (
Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (8) 6112 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
91. 2796662:
Lillominato89 (
Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (3) 1187 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
92. 2836461:
Free Market Capitalist (
Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (9) 3008 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
93. 3442614:
YodasRedRocket (
Trust: +32 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (3) 641 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
94. 3486361:
PowerGlove (
Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (5) 6639 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
DT 2 1. 3:
satoshi (
Trust: +44 / =0 / -0) (
8182 Merit earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
2. 4:
sirius (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
828 Merit earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
3. 35:
theymos (
Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (
13807 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
4. 2252:
laanwj (
Trust: neutral) (
44 Merit earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
5. 2676:
casascius (
Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (
141 Merit earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
6. 2759:
midnightmagic (
Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (
27 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
7. 2786:
Pieter Wuille (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
198 Merit earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
8. 3318:
Luke-Jr (
Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (
196 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
9. 3420:
dooglus (
Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (
334 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
10. 4171:
Raize (
Trust: neutral) (
24 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
11. 4528:
Matt Corallo (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
15 Merit earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
12. 6347:
Maged (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
17 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
13. 10354:
JJG (
Trust: neutral) (
10 Merit earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
14. 11425:
gmaxwell (
Trust: +11 / =0 / -1) (
9257 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
65. Post 66224590 (unedited backup) (by LoyceV) (scraped on Sat Dec 27 14:32:49 CET 2025) in LoyceV's Merit data analysis (full data since Jan. 24, 2018; not just 120 days):
Weekly update (2025-12-19_Fri_05.18h)theymos' raw data (format: time amount msg user_from user_to)Sample1766112631 2 5489893.msg66189546 1166480 958449
1766112612 3 5568630.msg66182755 379147 11425
1766110694 1 5522234.msg66190466 252510 3446246
1766110659 1 5522234.msg66187211 252510 3587685
1766110153 1 5568838.msg66188340 839568 33156
1766108374 1 5568871.msg66189836 33156 1349691
1766107289 1 5568838.msg66188340 3719408 33156
1766106442 1 5173493.msg66157234 1554927 846936
1766105529 1 178336.msg66190739 223922 67210
1766105458 1 178336.msg66189709 33156 198573
1766105020 1 178336.msg66190696 198573 252510
1766104686 1 5526798.msg64964344 3449242 2830659
1766104128 1 178336.msg66189473 223922 33156
1766103996 50 5143324.msg51070466 18321 15728
1766102349 1 5568262.msg66190542 1045971 317618
1766102023 2 5568657.msg66190363 1856852 1265260
1766101588 2 5489893.msg66150564 407174 382413
1766101282 1 5568613.msg66187131 1856852 1130307
1766101131 1 5456516.msg66188701 317618 3674660
1766100502 5 5568838.msg66188340 317618 33156
1766100323 1 178336.msg66190469 3547723 64507
1766100171 3 5568630.msg66182755 137773 11425
1766100142 1 5568630.msg66182755 137773 11425
1766099749 1 5132720.msg66190234 252510 3613441
1766099621 2 5568866.msg66189642 3322606 355846
1766099468 1 5568884.msg66190263 3547723 3704391
1766099269 1 5567984.msg66167702 3322558 3489395
1766098830 1 5568262.msg66179357 317618 459836
1766098753 1 5568885.msg66190454 3558380 3322606
1766098751 1 5132720.msg66189494 252510 3724979
1766098638 1 5568788.msg66187545 407174 2724574
1766098378 5 5548042.msg66115136 85033 3579677
1766098376 1 232519.msg66186624 2905746 3720043
1766097482 2 5444001.msg61881248 317618 1982152
1766097450 1 5444001.msg61879660 317618 1190631
1766097337 3 5444001.msg61877332 317618 2789068
1766097094 1 5568704.msg66184887 1410401 112493
1766097078 1 5568747.msg66189444 33156 317618
1766097049 1 5568747.msg66189039 33156 1269497
1766096912 3 5273824.msg66173638 1852120 557798
1766096210 2 781352.msg66188326 317618 71280
1766095914 1 178336.msg66188957 198573 1027389
1766095603 1 5561446.msg66186611 3704398 881377
1766095300 1 5568744.msg66186617 1410401 3719408
1766095259 1 5568787.msg66190034 839568 379487
1766095243 1 5568744.msg66186225 1410401 839568
1766095228 1 5568749.msg66190066 33156 1410401
1766095187 4 5568749.msg66189897 33156 3491360
1766095083 2 5548762.msg65550435 3730852 3570987
1766094663 1 5568838.msg66188340 2755547 33156
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1516833930 7 2228.msg29479 135920 3
1516833833 1 178336.msg28855702 479624 1130992
1516833813 1 2817737.msg28849540 1001644 990403
1516833798 21 5.msg28 520313 3
1516833796 1 2808926.msg28728384 140584 35
1516833779 1 178336.msg28853916 479624 33156
1516833756 20 2482937.msg25417254 101872 135920
1516833713 21 5.msg28 169515 3
1516833686 1 2818179.msg28855276 994466 1196028
1516833610 49 1545652.msg15536651 206143 520313
1516833593 1 2818066.msg28855136 260067 520313
1516833592 2 2806168.msg28855427 520313 355846
1516833591 49 1545652.msg15536651 881377 520313
1516833523 1 2818066.msg28855343 539826 340795
1516833521 1 2818066.msg28855136 514126 520313
1516833478 1 2818066.msg28855136 482980 520313
1516833460 1 2818066.msg28854596 93844 520313
1516833451 1 2816214.msg28845827 1083353 1520388
1516833430 50 178608.msg28854963 884600 520313
1516833349 1 178336.msg28852898 479624 1521711
1516833346 1 2812863.msg28785611 303315 1707287
1516833329 1 2818066.msg28854596 206143 520313
1516833326 1 178336.msg28852768 479624 181806
1516833304 1 2818066.msg28853325 340795 877396
1516833289 1 2716104.msg28846824 1239985 1739247
1516833281 1 2818066.msg28853686 206143 136484
1516833252 1 2816647.msg28837916 169515 1701092
1516833251 1 178336.msg28849600 479624 172400
1516833237 1 2677441.msg28778318 123412 1090430
1516833230 1 2814078.msg28796083 520313 881377
1516833207 1 2772292.msg28837085 1189487 1028592
1516833203 1 2818066.msg28855136 101872 520313
1516833199 1 2818066.msg28853325 926641 877396
1516833148 1 2808926.msg28793321 78147 35
1516833148 1 2634042.msg28672219 123412 1094601
1516833111 1 2818066.msg28855136 535215 520313
1516833078 45 2813828.msg28801076 135920 101872
1516833070 1 2818066.msg28855136 881377 520313
1516833049 1 2677441.msg28848945 88254 903139
1516833048 1 2818066.msg28855136 101872 520313
1516833044 5 2818066.msg28855019 135920 688810
1516833001 5 2813828.msg28801076 135920 101872
1516832978 1 2384335.msg28854772 1344962 1101839
1516832969 1 2818066.msg28855136 881564 520313
1516832953 1 2818066.msg28854621 520313 101872
1516832934 1 2818066.msg28855136 877396 520313
1516832874 1 178608.msg28792130 884600 35
1516832842 5 2818066.msg28853325 688810 877396
1516832833 2 178336.msg28852079 479624 1257516
1516831941 1 2818066.msg28853325 35 877396
Full list* (53 MB) (not limited to 120 days, 2972 Merit transactions added since my previous update).
theymos' data (human readable format, including usernames and post titles)SampleOn Fri 19 Dec 2025 03:50:31 AM CET,
Julien_Olynpic (
history) sent 2 Merit to
viljy (
history) for
Re: [***] Создаём экосистему токена Chamby .
On Fri 19 Dec 2025 03:50:12 AM CET,
pooya87 (
history) sent 3 Merit to
gmaxwell (
history) for
Re: Bitcoin Testnet Needed: Prefer USA based Miners.
On Fri 19 Dec 2025 03:18:14 AM CET,
JayJuanGee (
history) sent 1 Merit to
moneystery (
history) for
Re: Everything you wanted to know about Bitcoin Strategic Reserve.
On Fri 19 Dec 2025 03:17:39 AM CET,
JayJuanGee (
history) sent 1 Merit to
Just Say (
history) for
Re: Everything you wanted to know about Bitcoin Strategic Reserve.
On Fri 19 Dec 2025 03:09:13 AM CET,
AakZaki (
history) sent 1 Merit to
vapourminer (
history) for
bring back the glowing ignore button.
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On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:28:54 PM CET,
AdolfinWolf (
history) sent 1 Merit to
Lutpin (
history) for
Re: What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:54 PM CET,
Dahman El_Harrachi (
history) sent 1 Merit to
theymos (
history) for
Re: Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?).
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:22 PM CET,
Tyrantt (
history) sent 5 Merit to
AdolfinWolf (
history) for
What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:13 PM CET,
Last of the V8s (
history) sent 2 Merit to
Rosewater Foundation (
history) for
Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:12:21 PM CET,
theymos (
history) sent 1 Merit to
AdolfinWolf (
history) for
What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
Full list (566 MB)
Usernames to go with theymos' dataSample0:
deMerit (Bitcoin Forum) (
history) earned: 0 Merit.
3:
satoshi (
history) earned: 8182 Merit.
4:
sirius (
history) earned: 828 Merit.
10:
Xunie (
history) earned: 1 Merit.
11:
madhatter (
history) earned: 5 Merit.
.......
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3739640:
darkrangerat (
history) earned: 1 Merit.
3739781:
BigNoteh (
history) earned: 4 Merit.
3739792:
Wildead Casino (
history) earned: 1 Merit.
3740057:
Becassinewantstocomeback (
history) earned: 2 Merit.
3740085:
Taurox (
history) earned: 4 Merit.
Full list* (10 MB)
Usernames machine readableSample0: deMerit (Bitcoin Forum)
3: satoshi
4: sirius
10: Xunie
11: madhatter
12: nanaimogold
13: SmokeTooMuch
14: The Madhatter
21: AgoraMutual
23: 1 currency now
24: dwdollar
26: NewLibertyStandard
27: riX
28: Sabunir
29: giik
30: BitcoinFX
31: Suggester
33: m0mchil
34: BlueSky
35: theymos
37: soultcer
40: xc
42: ec
49: Cdecker
51: DannyM
97: dsg
101: Goldstein
143: laszlo
145: ducki2p
146: Brandon
163: Karmicads
182: Derrick
183: hugolp
198: allinvain
203: HostFat
206: teppy
217: SirArthur
224: Gavin Andresen
237: lachesis
241: QuantumMechanic
244: nixoid
251: wobber
262: chaord
267: virtualcoin
269: Bitcoiner
270: llama
271: Timo Y
274: limikael
284: joey.rich
288: Stone Man
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3736690: bxae00
3736722: Stilelibero
3736790: James tector
3736915: mrust_fridge
3736986: Showstopper1111
3737025: hmbdofficial
3737029: realmeh
3737125: FlyingDevilBB
3737150: ahmadhere
3737270: SawyerNolan
3737311: CONVOAI
3737401: Alge89
3737459: Akaenyi
3737471: LogosLRB
3737474: axcelvoid
3737623: DRY MARTINI
3737741: PlayRadar
3737767: krvbs
3737790: fabrice.btc
3737800: adilx157
3737826: BTC_Bae
3737986: KawasakiNinja_
3738006: FeWoWHV24
3738068: Coinjoiner21
3738090: rreplayworld
3738152: Fresh_Milk
3738205: xXHenneBXx
3738277: TheNextBigThinger0x0
3738491: meangoat
3738543: InvestigatingWOZX
3738697: art3m1s_37
3738700: KawasakiNinja1_
3738840: Rah12345
3738956: boombitty
3739036: Unixx
3739052: AmlRiskMonitor
3739109: Bjoern90
3739255: Amzender
3739266: NyktersteinMD
3739326: Raisero
3739388: Vanellp
3739483: JaredIbrahim
3739490: Blour
3739617: Chononaut
3739632: Sheylon
3739640: darkrangerat
3739781: BigNoteh
3739792: Wildead Casino
3740057: Becassinewantstocomeback
3740085: Taurox
Full list (2 MB)
UserIDs, sent Merit and earned Merit machine readableSample0:569:0
3:0:8182
4:0:828
10:0:1
11:0:5
12:0:1
13:3:76
14:0:11
21:0:2
23:0:1
24:0:9
26:0:19
27:0:54
28:0:13
29:0:4
30:380:723
31:0:1
33:0:27
34:0:4
35:14216:13807
37:0:6
40:0:4
42:0:69
49:0:5
51:0:2
97:0:2
101:0:2
143:0:2483
145:0:1
146:0:4
163:0:21
182:1:0
183:9:1
198:2:83
203:68:300
206:0:14
217:3:36
224:0:1412
237:0:5
241:0:9
244:0:1
251:0:1
262:0:1
267:0:2
269:0:1
270:0:52
271:0:1
274:0:42
284:0:6
288:0:10
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3736690:2:29
3736722:0:1
3736790:0:13
3736915:0:1
3736986:0:8
3737025:0:2
3737029:0:26
3737125:0:1
3737150:0:1
3737270:0:1
3737311:0:3
3737401:0:1
3737459:0:3
3737471:0:2
3737474:0:22
3737623:0:5
3737741:0:1
3737767:0:2
3737790:1:7
3737800:0:4
3737826:0:3
3737986:0:1
3738006:0:1
3738068:2:8
3738090:0:2
3738152:0:1
3738205:0:8
3738277:0:1
3738491:0:1
3738543:0:1
3738697:5:12
3738700:0:1
3738840:0:6
3738956:0:1
3739036:2:5
3739052:0:3
3739109:0:2
3739255:0:1
3739266:0:1
3739326:0:1
3739388:1:5
3739483:0:10
3739490:0:2
3739617:0:1
3739632:0:1
3739640:0:1
3739781:0:4
3739792:0:1
3740057:1:2
3740085:0:4
Full list (1 MB)
Total number of users who received 1 or more Merit: 50748Sample 1. 19708 Merit received by LoyceV (#459836) from 1086 unique users in 11300 transactions
2. 19547 Merit received by fillippone (#1852120) from 733 unique users in 10680 transactions
3. 18879 Merit received by o_e_l_e_o (#1188543) from 801 unique users in 9979 transactions
4. 14944 Merit received by El duderino_ (#1067333) from 476 unique users in 8621 transactions
5. 13807 Merit received by theymos (#35) from 1213 unique users in 4943 transactions
6. 12625 Merit received by JayJuanGee (#252510) from 693 unique users in 8427 transactions
7. 11957 Merit received by Symmetrick (#2627711) from 773 unique users in 6854 transactions
8. 11258 Merit received by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) from 483 unique users in 6302 transactions
9. 11227 Merit received by DdmrDdmr (#1582324) from 649 unique users in 6428 transactions
10. 11100 Merit received by pooya87 (#379147) from 594 unique users in 6462 transactions
11. 11079 Merit received by icopress (#1137579) from 558 unique users in 4345 transactions
12. 10508 Merit received by cygan (#27470) from 497 unique users in 5516 transactions
13. 10044 Merit received by philipma1957 (#64507) from 568 unique users in 5718 transactions
14. 9596 Merit received by xhomerx10 (#120694) from 328 unique users in 4921 transactions
15. 9348 Merit received by nutildah (#317618) from 625 unique users in 5038 transactions
16. 9257 Merit received by gmaxwell (#11425) from 334 unique users in 3294 transactions
17. 9167 Merit received by NotATether (#2739424) from 511 unique users in 4275 transactions
18. 9149 Merit received by BlackHatCoiner (#2775483) from 448 unique users in 4556 transactions
19. 9031 Merit received by GazetaBitcoin (#1285797) from 384 unique users in 3197 transactions
20. 8992 Merit received by d5000 (#85033) from 420 unique users in 4877 transactions
21. 8944 Merit received by TryNinja (#557798) from 531 unique users in 4050 transactions
22. 8465 Merit received by ABCbits (#359716) from 525 unique users in 4575 transactions
23. 8461 Merit received by suchmoon (#234771) from 573 unique users in 4832 transactions
24. 8395 Merit received by dkbit98 (#1410401) from 450 unique users in 4978 transactions
25. 8353 Merit received by Pmalek (#112493) from 565 unique users in 4895 transactions
26. 8182 Merit received by satoshi (#3) from 404 unique users in 882 transactions
27. 8110 Merit received by nc50lc (#1237156) from 394 unique users in 4243 transactions
28. 7522 Merit received by 1miau (#2143453) from 490 unique users in 4110 transactions
29. 7492 Merit received by Rikafip (#2658890) from 450 unique users in 4157 transactions
30. 7189 Merit received by bitmover (#1554927) from 571 unique users in 4261 transactions
31. 7122 Merit received by mikeywith (#2033515) from 401 unique users in 3634 transactions
32. 6639 Merit received by PowerGlove (#3486361) from 226 unique users in 1710 transactions
33. 6533 Merit received by achow101 (#290195) from 273 unique users in 2959 transactions
34. 6521 Merit received by DaveF (#300014) from 367 unique users in 3279 transactions
35. 6502 Merit received by hosemary (#995810) from 379 unique users in 3538 transactions
36. 6353 Merit received by Hhampuz (#881377) from 923 unique users in 4118 transactions
37. 6346 Merit received by stompix (#164749) from 473 unique users in 3527 transactions
38. 6201 Merit received by The Sceptical Chymist (#487418) from 618 unique users in 3468 transactions
39. 6195 Merit received by AlcoHoDL (#998490) from 196 unique users in 3592 transactions
40. 6118 Merit received by jeremypwr (#137185) from 218 unique users in 3579 transactions
41. 6112 Merit received by Charles-Tim (#2776678) from 407 unique users in 3549 transactions
42. 6012 Merit received by n0nce (#3373858) from 194 unique users in 2628 transactions
43. 5989 Merit received by Lucius (#533583) from 518 unique users in 3480 transactions
44. 5969 Merit received by OmegaStarScream (#375981) from 405 unique users in 3253 transactions
45. 5965 Merit received by NeuroticFish (#257071) from 450 unique users in 3347 transactions
46. 5965 Merit received by cAPSLOCK (#35501) from 225 unique users in 3378 transactions
47. 5952 Merit received by joker_josue (#97582) from 324 unique users in 2766 transactions
48. 5642 Merit received by Hueristic (#198573) from 201 unique users in 3246 transactions
49. 5350 Merit received by zasad@ (#2654005) from 412 unique users in 2626 transactions
50. 5262 Merit received by lovesmayfamilis (#1982152) from 440 unique users in 3745 transactions
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50699. 1 Merit received by 1ceStorm (#2342907) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50700. 1 Merit received by 1ce (#1019784) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50701. 1 Merit received by 1camtron (#1236351) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50702. 1 Merit received by 1apayment (#1855631) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50703. 1 Merit received by 1907KFY (#1935217) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50704. 1 Merit received by 16xypjnxlrew (#2705665) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50705. 1 Merit received by 16tonn (#3560052) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50706. 1 Merit received by 15horses1donkey (#560958) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50707. 1 Merit received by 15519028115Q (#3575647) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50708. 1 Merit received by 15262kk (#291561) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50709. 1 Merit received by 14z4rus (#3669471) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50710. 1 Merit received by 1453ist (#1431126) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50711. 1 Merit received by 1453eko (#1431103) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50712. 1 Merit received by 13Winter13 (#919666) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50713. 1 Merit received by 13ex07 (#1207068) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50714. 1 Merit received by 13dizel (#1208678) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50715. 1 Merit received by 1357924680 (#333305) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50716. 1 Merit received by 12tribes (#1221082) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50717. 1 Merit received by 12assa34 (#1729394) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50718. 1 Merit received by 123tm (#848549) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50719. 1 Merit received by 123pogi123 (#2252156) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50720. 1 Merit received by 123exo123 (#1919155) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50721. 1 Merit received by 112_blockchain (#2081987) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50722. 1 Merit received by 11:11pas (#1306783) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50723. 1 Merit received by 1083ivangod (#1952712) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50724. 1 Merit received by 101Crypta (#1287691) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50725. 1 Merit received by 100x (#80115) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50726. 1 Merit received by 100steeze (#3637720) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50727. 1 Merit received by 100%_Shared_FreeBitco.in (#2531436) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50728. 1 Merit received by 100monet (#323057) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50729. 1 Merit received by 1000x (#3509491) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50730. 1 Merit received by 1000usdforwife (#1547718) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50731. 1 Merit received by 1000alasan (#2458354) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50732. 1 Merit received by 0xMuted (#3713926) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50733. 1 Merit received by 0xBrian (#2625170) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50734. 1 Merit received by 0xb100d (#1342964) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50735. 1 Merit received by 0x77 (#3316521) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50736. 1 Merit received by 0x1Knowledge (#2000899) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50737. 1 Merit received by 0vx (#2805438) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50738. 1 Merit received by 0RajA0 (#1151527) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50739. 1 Merit received by 0nion (#3614135) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50740. 1 Merit received by 0bit (#493268) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50741. 1 Merit received by 063Myxa (#1432563) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50742. 1 Merit received by 05btc (#2050202) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50743. 1 Merit received by 00RedBlack00 (#2527578) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50744. 1 Merit received by 00hello (#2471124) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50745. 1 Merit received by $--Perfect. Exchange-$. (#1140007) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50746. 1 Merit received by $imple$imon (#2060672) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50747. 1 Merit received by $BitMakeR$ (#1166812) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50748. 0 Merit received by gwsukabokepjepang (#2536607) from 2 unique users in 2 transactions
Full list (5 MB)
Total number of users who gave away 1 or more sMerit: 26475Sample 1. 69531 Merit sent by El duderino_ (#1067333) to 884 unique users in 12371 transactions
2. 65700 Merit sent by fillippone (#1852120) to 2128 unique users in 28390 transactions
3. 64670 Merit sent by LoyceV (#459836) to 3298 unique users in 17324 transactions
4. 56608 Merit sent by ABCbits (#359716) to 4531 unique users in 32571 transactions
5. 56526 Merit sent by JayJuanGee (#252510) to 3526 unique users in 54354 transactions
6. 46893 Merit sent by vapourminer (#33156) to 3598 unique users in 32574 transactions
7. 42852 Merit sent by hugeblack (#1059082) to 2790 unique users in 15088 transactions
8. 41808 Merit sent by suchmoon (#234771) to 2887 unique users in 9159 transactions
9. 36875 Merit sent by xandry (#382413) to 2490 unique users in 13682 transactions
10. 36696 Merit sent by DdmrDdmr (#1582324) to 2817 unique users in 29717 transactions
11. 33333 Merit sent by Symmetrick (#2627711) to 2254 unique users in 16803 transactions
12. 33312 Merit sent by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) to 1567 unique users in 13617 transactions
13. 31368 Merit sent by The Sceptical Chymist (#487418) to 1439 unique users in 10172 transactions
14. 28208 Merit sent by klarki (#407174) to 2059 unique users in 10153 transactions
15. 27434 Merit sent by Welsh (#84521) to 1667 unique users in 6519 transactions
16. 27117 Merit sent by EFS (#140584) to 1382 unique users in 6953 transactions
17. 26646 Merit sent by o_e_l_e_o (#1188543) to 2510 unique users in 9360 transactions
18. 25819 Merit sent by 1miau (#2143453) to 1315 unique users in 11613 transactions
19. 22424 Merit sent by dbshck (#153634) to 1314 unique users in 6442 transactions
20. 22068 Merit sent by pooya87 (#379147) to 1337 unique users in 9277 transactions
21. 21322 Merit sent by qwk (#24140) to 600 unique users in 6403 transactions
22. 15915 Merit sent by Halab (#1053119) to 1925 unique users in 6452 transactions
23. 15592 Merit sent by Vispilio (#982288) to 731 unique users in 5740 transactions
24. 15419 Merit sent by nutildah (#317618) to 1697 unique users in 7176 transactions
25. 15188 Merit sent by Foxpup (#55384) to 642 unique users in 5468 transactions
26. 14848 Merit sent by NotATether (#2739424) to 1642 unique users in 3733 transactions
27. 14549 Merit sent by Pmalek (#112493) to 1145 unique users in 8757 transactions
28. 14387 Merit sent by Julien_Olynpic (#1166480) to 528 unique users in 6729 transactions
29. 14216 Merit sent by theymos (#35) to 1101 unique users in 1741 transactions
30. 13989 Merit sent by bitmover (#1554927) to 1275 unique users in 7970 transactions
31. 13502 Merit sent by philipma1957 (#64507) to 1586 unique users in 6895 transactions
32. 12970 Merit sent by krogothmanhattan (#1000199) to 654 unique users in 3563 transactions
33. 12728 Merit sent by CryptopreneurBrainboss (#1052091) to 1321 unique users in 7179 transactions
34. 12652 Merit sent by paxmao (#1192397) to 1301 unique users in 5797 transactions
35. 12618 Merit sent by OgNasty (#18321) to 2927 unique users in 6710 transactions
36. 12552 Merit sent by dkbit98 (#1410401) to 1109 unique users in 7623 transactions
37. 12516 Merit sent by BlackHatCoiner (#2775483) to 815 unique users in 4163 transactions
38. 12280 Merit sent by NeuroticFish (#257071) to 802 unique users in 5881 transactions
39. 12114 Merit sent by chimk (#1202061) to 757 unique users in 4369 transactions
40. 10590 Merit sent by d5000 (#85033) to 1123 unique users in 5952 transactions
41. 10361 Merit sent by mikeywith (#2033515) to 540 unique users in 3936 transactions
42. 8734 Merit sent by DarkStar_ (#507936) to 971 unique users in 2196 transactions
43. 8712 Merit sent by bones261 (#452769) to 1032 unique users in 4239 transactions
44. 8033 Merit sent by BobLawblaw (#569455) to 328 unique users in 3286 transactions
45. 8007 Merit sent by Coolcryptovator (#1980983) to 1019 unique users in 3469 transactions
46. 7772 Merit sent by Buchi-88 (#204821) to 739 unique users in 6915 transactions
47. 7704 Merit sent by OmegaStarScream (#375981) to 927 unique users in 3392 transactions
48. 7484 Merit sent by Hueristic (#198573) to 566 unique users in 6628 transactions
49. 7082 Merit sent by frodocooper (#988740) to 479 unique users in 2931 transactions
50. 6896 Merit sent by babo (#65636) to 484 unique users in 5415 transactions
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26426. 1 Merit sent by 3acaga (#1232502) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26427. 1 Merit sent by 360llqzc (#1300924) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26428. 1 Merit sent by 333btc (#3450760) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26429. 1 Merit sent by 3227jw (#2592839) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26430. 1 Merit sent by 2x2coindwarf (#2686612) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26431. 1 Merit sent by 2x25BT (#990097) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26432. 1 Merit sent by 2drive (#1304704) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26433. 1 Merit sent by 2andahalfBTC (#1142164) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26434. 1 Merit sent by 27QVUTZj8rgZP1 (#662730) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26435. 1 Merit sent by 27aume (#1001865) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26436. 1 Merit sent by 2342q6tegw (#1212678) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26437. 1 Merit sent by 214missy (#1285563) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26438. 1 Merit sent by 212fox (#1342293) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26439. 1 Merit sent by 1xbitpatnar (#3475604) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26440. 1 Merit sent by 1r0n (#1252002) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26441. 1 Merit sent by 1pool Ltd. (#2062862) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26442. 1 Merit sent by 1melyun (#543052) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26443. 1 Merit sent by 1cyrax00 (#964210) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26444. 1 Merit sent by 1CryptoSmurf (#1352746) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26445. 1 Merit sent by 1chempion123 (#1346880) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26446. 1 Merit sent by 1cak (#1136856) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26447. 1 Merit sent by 1amCrypt0 (#933826) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26448. 1 Merit sent by 19Nov16 (#921267) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26449. 1 Merit sent by 19nataliya12 (#1873934) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26450. 1 Merit sent by 19dimasik77 (#881779) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26451. 1 Merit sent by 1971ECPT (#3553473) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26452. 1 Merit sent by 17buratin (#1187494) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26453. 1 Merit sent by 13ex07 (#1207068) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26454. 1 Merit sent by 13Charlie (#76987) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26455. 1 Merit sent by 12retepnat34 (#1053271) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26456. 1 Merit sent by 10yearsolder (#1094878) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26457. 1 Merit sent by 10sat (#1162504) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26458. 1 Merit sent by 10casproj (#3515598) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26459. 1 Merit sent by 10BTCaDay (#396522) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26460. 1 Merit sent by 100kk (#1316426) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26461. 1 Merit sent by 100eth (#1324600) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26462. 1 Merit sent by 0xBitcoins (#2205183) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26463. 1 Merit sent by 0xBet (#3572636) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26464. 1 Merit sent by 0x0333 (#1913654) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26465. 1 Merit sent by 0vn1 (#1216048) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26466. 1 Merit sent by 0virtual (#1244555) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26467. 1 Merit sent by 0id1d (#3600764) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26468. 1 Merit sent by 0Alvaren0 (#2020991) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26469. 1 Merit sent by 01BTC (#1756786) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26470. 1 Merit sent by 01bits (#1629161) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26471. 1 Merit sent by 00HasH (#841746) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26472. 1 Merit sent by 00DKM@ (#1311705) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26473. 1 Merit sent by 00.00WIB (#3392171) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26474. 1 Merit sent by $@to$h! (#1183184) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26475. 1 Merit sent by $Talker (#1043705) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
Full list (3 MB)
Merit per day of the weekMonday 317431 (14.35%)
Tuesday 315615 (14.27%)
Wednesday 316688 (14.32%)
Thursday 337591 (15.27%)
Friday 335678 (15.18%)
Saturday 292385 (13.22%)
Sunday 295295 (13.35%)
Total: 2210683
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