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I frequently suggest that guys invest into bitcoin as aggressively as they are able to without overdoing it, and of course that is a bit of a vague suggestion, since guys have to figure out the parameters that amount to investing as aggressively as they can without overdoing it within the boundaries of their own means.. and surely if a guy has a shorter timeline (such as one that might be 4-10 years), he might want to reach that status of overaccumulation faster than a guy who might already know that he has a timeline that is perhaps 20 years or more, even though he would not complain if he were to reach overaccumulation status at a time that is a few years sooner than he thought that he was going to be able to reach it.

A guy with a good job and maybe fairly reasonable expenses, he may well be able to accumulate bitcoin at around 25% of his income, which means that in about 4 years, he would have had put 1 year of his income into bitcoin, and other guys might struggle to maintain an investment amount that is 5% of his income, even if he might aspire to try to get up to 10% of his income and in those lower contribution rates, it will take 20 years and 10 years respectively to get to 1 years of his income invested into bitcoin... .. and surely guys can ONLY do what they can, and someone with low discretionary funds may well struggle and have dilemmas about how much he is ready, willing and able to put into bitcoin, since even small amounts will also involve a decent amount of ongoing  sacrifice... and many times there can be struggles to figure out ways to increase discretionary funds.


Personally, it seems to me that if any guys is going to be withdrawing based on his bitcoin amount, then he might not want to go over an 8% per year withdrawal rate... even though I personally consider 10% annual rate to be sustainable if it is based on the dollar value of the 200-WMA (which is a bitcoin bottom price).

So if you look at my sustainable withdrawal strategy tool, a 10% per year based on the 200-WMA would allow a 1 BTC stash size to currently withdraw $6k per year (which is currently 0.07915992 BTC) ($503 per month, which is 0.00659666 BTC), and then I hypothesize a 7% increase in the dollar withdrawal rate each year.

Sure it is possible that even withdrawing based on the BTC amount might end up in very similar results as withdrawing based on the dollar value of the 200-WMA, yet I have been personally thinking that there is value in trying to figure out our cost of living in terms of dollars and making our adjustments based in the dollar value.. which also allows a kind of compounding of the dollar value when we are withdrawing in a way that the dollar rate continues to go up higher than the amount that we are withdrawing - even though with bitcoin, there are likely going to ongoingly be up and down years that might cause us  concerns about the extent to which we might be withdrawing at a rate that might not be sustainable during those times that the BTC price is going down greatly yet we are still continuing with our withdrawals (once we get to a sustainable withdrawal stage).

It does seem that using the 200-WMA provides more delayed indicator aspects so that we can make adjustments to our withdrawal amounts during periods in which the BTC price might go lower than 25% above the 200-WMA.. and a strict withdrawing based on the BTC amount might end up causing over withdrawing, especially if it is at higher than 8% per year rates...and I am a bit nervous about 8% rates during periods that the BTC prices might be relatively low, such as lower than 25% above the 200-WMA or even periods that the BTC price might even be below the 200-WMA.. We know in late 2022, the BTC price got down to 35% below the then 200-WMA, which seems that it would have had been problematic to be withdrawing high amounts of BTC during those kinds of seemingly low priced BTC times..
 
@suhadi88 may well be needing to show how he considers the accumulation of 1 bitcoin and then the subsequent withdrawal of 0.1 bTC to be reasonable. and surely even in my own thinking it is difficult to reach a status of justifying starting to employ time-based sustainable withdrawal (even if we might be able to agree on the rate of withdrawal) without at least 4 years of holding after the purchases that are being withdrawn.   Price based sustainable withdrawal has other kinds of formulas, so there could be ways to justify price based sustainable withdrawal, such as a doubling of the bitcoin price for the amount of bitcoin at issue could potentially justify up to a 10% withdrawal for every doubling... even though from my perspective it seems a bit too desperate (and maybe premature) to start such 10% withdrawal on each doubling on the first doubling.. yet guys are free to make those kinds of choices and even to attempt to determine if their choices are attempts at sustainable withdrawal rather than depletion of principle and even worse yet if they are devolving into trading (based on their intentions to try to buy back cheaper) while inaccurately proclaiming that they are investing.

By the way, when I suggest that there could be justification for time-based sustainable withdraw in some circumstances, and justification for price-based sustainable withdrawal in other circumstances, if a guy is mixing the two strategies, he is still going to need to make sure that the combination of deploying the two strategies is not causing him to overly deplete his bitcoin holdings.. and there can be a decent amount of wiggle room that guys could employ in terms of how he is making his calculations, and if he ends up withdrawing too much too soon, then he ONLY has himself to blame for his actions, even if he had inadvertently made mistakes in his calculations.

Frequently if the mistakes are not too big, there can be ways to make up for the mistakes by either buying back the bitcoin and/or lowering the withdrawal rate (amount) for a period of time to either allow the BTC price to catch up and to make up for the mistake.. and sometimes either of the potential remedies might not be logical to carry out in a rush.. and surely any guy is going to feel less upset if he identifies various avenues to rectify his mistakes as compared with if his mistakes had been so large that the damage level ended up greatly limiting his present and/or future options in ways that he considers could have been preventable.. but they end up being so great that they cannot be meaningfully fixed... an example of a non-rectifiable mistake might relate to putting large amounts of value in some insecure platform (for yield or something like that) and get rugged. .or maybe storing keys in ways that are quite vulnerable to loss.. and surely if a guy spends 6-10 years building up BTC holdings, if he loses 1/3 or 1/2 or even more of his BTC holdings, he may well not be able to make up for those levels of losses, especially if he might still had been quite a distance from reaching overaccumulation status... and maybe his age and health is not really giving a lot of options to him, either.

If a person has achieved the goal and if he sees that his investment is at a profitable level, he can withdraw some amount from the profit and enjoy it. But if a person wants to withdraw the entire amount or more than half of it instead of withdrawing a small amount, then this is not the right decision at all.

It is not possible to say now what the price of Bitcoin will be when he withdraws the second time. The Bitcoin market is very volatile and it is not possible to say when and under what conditions the price of Bitcoin will be. If the price of Bitcoin was 50 thousand dollars when the first time Bitcoin was sold and if it was 100 thousand dollars at the time of the second sale, then the second sale will definitely get more money.

It is entirely our responsibility to keep track of whether we have reached excess savings or not. If we take the wrong decision without being able to properly monitor or account for our investment, then it is our failure. We can understand whether we have reached the point of excess savings by looking at the date of our first purchase and what our goal was.
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Your numbers are vague @Tongley, and it seems like you are merely saying that guys can do whatever they like without considering parameters, except that they "feel like taking some profits" based on feelings that they have enough blah blah blah.


Get the fuck out of here.  You are talking about trading and not investing, even though you are using the term "investing."  You are in the wrong thread if you want to talk about trading.

When these guys sell their BTC are they intending to buy back cheaper, and you even suggested that some of them might be merely taking profits.  Do you want to argue that is investing and not trading?  I am presuming that you are considering guys who might be trying to play the 4-year cycle, even though surely there can be situations in which guys might be coming into bitcoin intending to play one 4 year cycle, so they are planning to get in and out in less than 4 years, yet some of them might get stuck on the wrong side of a trade, so they might feel that they have to hold onto their bitcoin longer until it goes into sufficient profits, to the extent that they don't decide to get out "unprofitable" in order to cut their losses, since they might perceive that they have opportunities to put the money (that they had put into bitcoin) into other places in order to make up for whatever losses (or lack of profits) that they had ended up going through with bitcoin.  Do you really consider those kinds of adjustments as "investing" too?


Nothing wrong with this example.  Many times normal people who are investing and building outside of bitcoin might spend 30-40 years or longer investing and trying to build and to prepare themselves to get to a position where they don't have to work and they can live off of their investment (perhaps some variation of fuck you status), and many of them might not completely get to such a situation.. and surely there are possibilities that bitcoin can help that guys get to fuck you status and might even get there sooner with bitcoin than would have had been possible under non-bitcoin/traditional investments.


What is "investing less than 10 years?"  what is the reason?  They are investing for a certain purpose, like buying a house or a business? or are the having a less than 10 year time horizon based on age and/or health considerations?

If they buy bitcoin and they get out in a less than 10 year time horizon then what are they getting into, in your scenario?  Is there any reason to stay into bitcoin longer?  And, also in your scenario, did they get into bitcoin in a DCA manner or did they lump sum buy into it?  I might question if your idea of a less than 10 years "medium term investor" kind of guy is an investor or maybe he is a longer term trader, unless he might have age/health considerations that contribute towards his having a less than 10 year investment time-horizon.

What about you Arenga pinnata?  You have ONLY been registered here since early 2023, yet surely you could have had built up a decently good bitcoin position in the last 3-ish years if you had not been mixing up the ideas of trading with investing.  And, I am not even suggesting that your last 3-ish years might not have had been more "profitable" as a trader as compared with an investor, yet historically in bitcoin (at least so far) any guys who are fucking around trying to trade bitcoin end up way worse off than the guys who had been focused on ongoing buying and building up their bitcoin holdings, especially if we look at time periods that are a couple of cycles or longer.. even though surely some of those guys don't seem to learn their lesson in regards to the value of focusing on ongoing bitcoin accumulation and hodl rather than fucking around trying to trade and putting their accumulation process at risk, even if they believe that they might be able to successfully gamble with their holdings and sell at a certain price and buy back at a lower price... and personally, I am not even opposed to doing some of that if guys can at least limit their fucking around with trading to less than 10% of their bitcoin holdings, especially if they are still in their bitcoin accumulation phases.   Once they get to overaccumulation status they have more options, yet it still might not be a good way of dealing with bitcoin holdings to be selling with expectations of buying back cheaper.

Qual a melhor forma de fazer isso com USDT? Você poderia criar um tópico sobre isso ensinando o que fazer e o que não fazer. Como envio para fora e já compro SP500?

Deixar em dólares parado é uma ideia ruim mesmo, por que a inflação é mundial

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Engraçado foi ele numa coletiva um dia desse falando que o brasil tem um problema na administração 

nosso problema é que a grande massa vota por populismo e so, é aquela velha historia do cara "gentil" que come um pao com mortadela

Pois foi... 




Voce tambem desde que mudou de cidade, começou a falar mais de politica! 

Acho que temos de reduzir um pouco essa temática e procurar mais assuntos sobre o Bitcoin e o setor, de uma forma mais direta.

There is something confusing about your description of how a guy might choose to start to withdraw from his bitcoin holdings once he reaches overaccumulation status while still being able to stay in overaccumulation status.

Of course, he can change his goals, yet he doesn't necessarily need to change his goals, especially if he might accumulate enough that he has a bit of a cushion in regards to how much bitcoin he needs in order to support his chosen income level.  if he is just barely at his level (or not quite at his level) then he might run into more troubles because he is pushing limits and the resolution might be either to withdraw at lower rates until his bitcoin holdings are able to support his targeted level or alternatively, delay when he starts to withdraw from his holdings, and with the passage of time, his bitcoin holdings will support a higher withdrawal rate as long as he was not withdrawing from them  and he does not need to add more bitcoin to his holdings.

An example might be helpful...  and I will describe a guy who has already reached such status.

Let's say that a guy had been earning $30k per year ($2,500 per month) and his basic expenses were about $1,500, and 10 years ago, he started to buy $100 per week in bitcoin ($433 per month, $5,200 per year) (which was 17.33% of his income, and even though a relatively aggressive level, well within his discretionary funds). After 10 years, he had invested about $52k into bitcoin and he had accumulated right about 11.15 BTC.  You can plug in the numbers and the dates on https://newhedge.io/bitcoin/dollar-cost-averaging-calculator

When he looks up the sustainable income that 11.15 BTC could support, he sees that it is $67.3k per year or $5,611 per month, which surely is higher than his current income, and so he could start to withdraw at the max or maybe he just wants to withdraw at his current income of $30k and to give himself a 7% raise each year (in dollar terms). If he chooses the lower withdrawal rate, he will likely never run out of bitcoin and he will be able to withdraw at that rate forever, and sure he could pick some withdrawal amount that is somewhere between $30k and $67.3k per year and still have a cushion, especially if he is not 100% confident that the sustainable withdrawal rate formula will hold up.

You can also look at my latest fuck you status table (last updated August 2025) and see that historically the amount of BTC needed to support an $80k per year income has gone down every year, and much faster than the rate that anyone would be withdrawing $80k per year from those amounts, even if they gave themselves a 7% raise each year in the dollar amount. 

In mid 2018, it took 338.5 BTC to support an $80k per year income. 
In mid 2020, it took 135.2 BTC to support an $80k per year income.
In mid 2022, it took 36.25 BTC to support an $80k per year income.
In mid 2024, it took 22.735 BTC to support an $80k per year income.

Those are the past numbers that track exactly what the 200-WMA did for each of the 6 months that are in the snapshot of the fuck you status chart.  The chart has not been updated since August 2025, yet my own current projections (that has not been published) shows that

In mid 2026, it will likely take 13.05 BTC to support an $80k per year income.
In mid 2028, it will likely take 8.3 BTC to support an $80k per year income.

So, even if the numbers in my most recent fuck you status chart are not exactly correct, any of us should be able to reasonably look at and/or project the 200-WMA and even to make sure that our withdrawal rate does not go out of sustainable territory so that our bitcoin continues to stay in overaccumulation status, even though we are ongoingly withdrawing from our bitcoin stash in a sustainable way in the event that we go down that path of sustainably withdrawing from our bitcoin holdings.

If we are in overaccumulation status and we are withdrawing within the boundaries of sustainable withdrawal, we do not have to buy back any bitcoin that we withdraw... especially if we keep our withdrawal rates within the guidelines of a sustainable withdrawal rate and we would quite likely be able to give ourselves some reasonable level of cost of living increase each year in the dollar amount, such as 7% per year forever into the future (as long as the 200-WMA continues to go up like it has historically done - even though of course, none of it is guaranteed, which puts responsibilities on each of us to make sure that we are not withdrawing beyond a reasonable and sustainable withdrawal rate.


Almost everyone who doesn't know shit about bitcoin perceive it to be high.. and even folks who study bitcoin for a while will also perceive the BTC price as high or that they had missed their chance to buy before the bubble hit. and so yeah, no matter the bitcoin price there are going to be folks who are perceiving the BTC price as being too high.. yet it still seems that the main point is not the fact that the BTC price seems to be high to them, but instead the fact that they are either a no coiner or a low coiner, and even guys who had been buying bitcoin on a fairly steady basis, they still may well be low coiners relative to where they want to go with their bitcoin stash, since (as you likely realize) it tends to take years and years and years for normal people to build up a reasonably sized bitcoin stash, unless they happened to have had been in a position that they were able to get into bitcoin and to be in a position to be able to front load their investment with lump sum amounts and/or other assets and/or money that they might have had been able to reallocate into bitcoin.

So, largely, what I am saying is that we have to be careful in our going along with their desires to focus on price, even though we still might need to acknowledge some aspect in which many newbies are tending to too often get caught up on BTC prices when the more important angle is that they either have no bitcoin or they have very little bitcoin and the only meaningful way to prepare for the possibility of upwards prices is to ongoingly be buying bitcoin rather than carrying out a waiting and/or watching strategy that may well not result in their getting any bitcoin, even if they might believe that they are going to buy bitcoin in the event that it dips to a certain target price that they have in mind.. which that also might be unrealistic to be waiting for prices that may well not happen, and even if the lower prices do end up happening, they can just continue buying during the time that the BTC price goes down to such levels, especially if they are setting up systems where they are trying to make sure that they are buying bitcoin every week for years and years and years.. perhaps a cycle or two before they are in a position of enough bitcoin that they might be able to reassess.


Of course, guys who have been buying bitcoin for decently long amounts of time and ongoingly trying to study into bitcoin know that.. yet are we going to obsess about whether BTC prices are low, high or sideways?   .,. of course, it feels good when our bitcoin are comfortably "in profits" and it seems unlikely that the BTC price is going to go below our costs per BTC, yet it could still take years and years and years for us to really start to feel comfortable in regards to our costs per BTC, even though we might be becoming more and more satisfied in regards to our bitcoin stash to the extent that it may be ongoingly growing on a weekly basis and over the years we are really noticing how our bitcoin stash size is getting larger...and yeah, the results will vary.. and some guys might have set backs or even periods where they might not have much if any discretionary funds to be able to buy bitcoin.


Yeah.. but it is always a good idea to buy bitcoin for beginners - especially if we are presuming that they don't have any bitcoin. or if they do have some bitcoin, they don't have enough.  I don't see any reason to spend much time addressing or focusing on the BTC price beyone in cursive ways, even if many newbies might have fears about the price... and at the same time, we cannot guarantee anything regarding where the price is going to go in the future.  It might go up, down or sideways in the future, yet if we are talking to a friend, relative or an acquaintance and we know that they are a no coiner or low coiners, then their status as no coiner or low coiner seem to be the more relevant aspect. and they are responsible for what they do.. whether they get started or not. even though sure, we might be able to help them in terms of pointing them out certain resources, such as where to source their coins or maybe some the basic matters related to figuring out how much they might want to put into bitcoin in light of what their discretionary funds might be, whether it is $100 per week, $10 per week or some other amount that they might be able to manage as they are potentially continuing to research into bitcoin and to sort out what they might assess to be their available discretionary funds... and we can talk about bitcoin investing and even cashflow management without necessarily getting into particulars of their finances or even about our own finances, even though maybe there are some folks who we don't mind sharing some particulars, yet many folks might be nervous about revealing too much about personal finances.

Você não se preocupa que o Trump parece querer desvalorizar o Dólar para seu próprio plano dentro dos Estados Unidos? Também andei comprando dólares para me proteger do efeito Lula mas com todas essas guerras, petróleo, problemas internos nos Estados Unidos, ele só tem caído frente todas as outras moedas do mundo. E o pior é gente pensando que ele tem caído por um bom governo do L

O que sei é que subi mais uma posição, se continuar assim daqui a pouco eu passo até o @joker_josue, só que não
Como previsto, o @sabotag3x também voltou pro ranking, merecido pois tem chovido tópicos nas últimas semanas trazendo conteúdos interessantes e notícias atualizadas pra manter a gente engajada e comentando por aqui, isso certamente ajuda pra caramba à manter o movimento e fazer as estatísticas subirem como um todo.

Acho que atualmente está todo mundo empregado né? Tivemos tempos ruins, mas atualmente com as campanhas em alta fica aquela pressão para manter a atividade e isso também ajuda na aba local.

When I see in the Local Board Post Race that at the end of the month we Nigerians are in the top position because of making the highest number of posts, it really feels good. Even though being at the top is not something new for our board, staying there by making the highest number of posts gives our Nigerian board a special kind of recognition. We need to keep this consistency going and maintain our identity by continuing to create high-quality posts.

Resumindo, é praticamente o socialismo um pouco mais lapidado do pt, embora copiado das ditaduras fracassadas como venezuela, cuba e etc, todas elas começam assim, distribuindo a renda, centralizando, fazendo planejamento central distorcendo o cálculo econômico e o curso natural das coisas.

As políticas públicas do lula, do pt, da era perdida da década de 80 (até o plano real), sempre foram baseadas em sindicalismo/socialismo, taxando a classe média e super-ricos, porém, estes sempre repassam os custos para a classe mais baixa ou mais pobres, que é o grosso da população. O povo brasileiro também já teve uma mentalidade muito anti-mercado, acreditando muito que o governo é a solução pra tudo, em uma época em que a internet não era muito popular aqui. Isso de fato contribuiu muito pro avanço do pt ao longo desses anos. Mas aos poucos, o povo está acordando e vendo que pt e socialismo é só furada, uma população funciona como uma rede neural em tempos de crise, quando as pessoas compartilham as mesmas dores, as pessoas conversam entre sí, no supermercado, na fila do caixa, reuniões de famílias e encontros sociais, pode ver que o tema política sempre está ganhando espaço.

The government here have blocked many websites which have been used by the population in order to buy digital dollars, cryptocurrency or other decentralized assets. Actually, they managed to block access to Binance for a while in 2024, but binance is again available for anyone to use, there are other webs which continue to be unavailable, though.
In the case of Polymarket, one can easily access from here, but I would not be surprised if these idiots also tried force people to quit Polymarket and use centralized and traditional options to bet on events, so the government can profit off all that volume of money.

If you have any question about this country, you can always ask me about it through a direct message or on some thread about politics or economics.

Durante um bom tempo eu li muitas coisas do passado, aqui tinha muita treta, mas também muita discussão interessante, não cheguei a reparar sobre posicionamento político tão as claras, mas eu também acho muito estranho um lugar aonde o foco principal é bitcoin e sair do sistema (ainda mais antigamente) e tenho uma certa curiosidade em saber como é a cabeça de alguém que é esquerdista e ao mesmo tempo gosta e se interesssou pelo universo do bitocin... são dois universos totalmente inversos.

O mês passado, foi mesmo fraquinho.
Deve ter sido por causa do carnaval... o Brasil quase para.

i'm sure the majority of privacy focused users still use them with that in mind, i mean you can never be 100% sure a service is not a honeypot.

why do you think that?

i only hold a small amount so i can pay for stuff without having to make a swap every time i need it, anything i get over that i also exchange to bitcoin.

I think they are pretty aware that some users are using VPN and if I am not mistaken they can easily identify it but it actually depends on the user? I think users who doesn't have that much transaction or balance in the account won't be punished? I'm not sure what are the terms of the Polymarket if they are going to freeze account and block you or you can access your funds but can't use the platform. Anyway, just to make sure, it's better to avoid platforms where your country is restricted to avoid unnecessary conveniences although there are gambling sites which where they allow user to use VPN, you just need to look it up or ask the support to make sure.

I also often get surprised how low on the list I am. Good reminder to stop slacking. 


Cheers, overview has been updated!

Its the last day of April, meaning time for yet another brief monthly overview, and this time for March 2026. All charts and table are made using data from @DdmrDdmr Merit Dashboard and BitList.

Communities marked with * (Pakistan, Bangladesh) unfortunately still don't have their own local boards but are part of this overview.

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Post activity per local board during March 2026

During the last month, 13524 posts were made across local boards, which is an increase slight compared to February's 12919 posts. Top 3 boards reemained the same as month before, and this increase mainly happened there.

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Active members per local board during March 2026

During March, 1305 forum members wrote at least one post in one of the local boards, making it a small decrease compared to February, during which 1335 members were active. Nigerian boards remained at the top, but this time Russian came aalittle bit closer than before, while all the other local boards are far behind.

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Local board members per amount of posts during March 2026

When it comes to the members who wrote only 1 post, Polish is the leader with 67% of such members, while at the same time Nigerian had the lowest, only 16%.

In the 2-9 posts bracket leader is Russian board with 46%, while on the other side is Plish local that had only 17% of such members.

Regarding the 10+ posts bracket, Turkish is the leader with 53% while Romanian didn't have a single member who wrote 10+ posts.

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Merit shared per local board during March 2026

7089 merit was shared across local board during March, which is a big drop compared to February's 7901 and is spread among majority of the boards. At the same, the most merited one (Nigerian) even managed to increase their merit shared compared to February and is one of the rare ones that managed to do that.

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Merit/Post ratio per local board during March 2026

During March, average merit per post across local boards was 0.52 which is a decrease compared to February's 0.61, which is expected considering the increase of the amount of posts and in the same time decrease of sent merit. Despite that, the average is still very good, and majority of local boards can't complain about that. Having said that, some local boards are still undermerited.

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Merit senders and receivers per local board during March 2026

During March 517 members sent while 602 received merit which is a expected decrease compared to February (535 senders, 615 receivers).

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Percentage of merited posts across local boards during March 2026

No surprise here-Romanian board once again at the top, and this time they are back at 60%, but this time they have Italian board just behind them with a very high 55%, which is even more impressive considering their number of posts.

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Merit per transaction across local boards during March 2026

Last but not the least, chart that shows meriting habit of local boards

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And in the end of the overview, lists of the most active local boards members. joker_josue from Portuguese local boatrd is back at the top with 135 posts, followed by klarki from Russian boartd with 131 post and mandown from Turkish local who wrote 128 posts. GG guys!

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Comparing "from ATH to current price" isn't really a fair comparison. You could compare the 2018 ATH to 2021 ATH: it went up. If you compare the 2025 ATH, it went up again. If you compare the average 2018 price, it's up quite a lot more than inflation.

Nao lembro dessa fase so PT por aqui, ate porque em si o BTC é um projeto totalmente sobre liberdade individual. Ja faz uns anos que fico de olho na aba PT mas nunca vi muuuita gente a favor do PT.

In dollars, it's more stable than Bitcoin.

It's meant to be used

Venezuela is on the list of countries whose users are completely restricted from accessing Polymarket, and that’s just the platform’s own policy. Of course, it’s possible to bypass internet censorship in some countries and the platform’s own restrictions using a VPN, but it’s worth keeping in mind that Polymarket may ban your account for doing so if they catch you.

Ali no endividamente do tigre acho que são pessoas que ou estão desesperadas pra conseguir sair do sufoco e tentam o tudo ou nada nas bets ou são as pessoas mais simples e humildes que caem na história triste dos influenciadores, eu vi uma falando que recebeu uma oferta que vai entre 1000 a 3000 reais por dia para poder divulgar as casas... é muita grana

Números bem estranhos.. perguntei para o ChatGPT o que poderia entrar ali nesses 80% (eu imaginava financiamento de casa, carro, etc), mas ele diz que até mesmo cartão de crédito (mesmo só a fatura do mês, sem atraso) já entra na conta..

No caso, o que importa ali são os 12,3% que não conseguem pagar.. mesma % de 12 meses atrás..

como era antes das bets? só achei dados de estados (SP, MG, etc) e os números são parecidos.. mais fácil ter piorado por conta da economia estar um lixo do que por causa das bets.


Os outros dois artigos parecem mais interessantes.. mas eu vejo assim:

O cabra ganha R$ 2.000 por mês, 30 a 50% vai paga pagar impostos de consumo (R$ 600 a R$ 1.000), mal fecha a conta no final do mês.. então se o cara perder R$ 50 no tigrinho (20x menos do que gastou em impostos), já entra pra essa estatística das "bets malvadonas"..

Se o cara ta endividado por causa do tigrinho é porque é muito retardado ou já vivia numa situação financeira muito apertada.. mas será que esse cara não gasta mais dinheiro com bebida ou outra porcaria do que com bets? Ambev deve ganhar R$ 80 bilhões por ano com bebidas alcoolicas (vs os R$ 37 bilhões citado ali das bets em 2025)

Pra mim o problema é a inflação disparando e o salário do cara continuando igual, cada vez mais apertado.. e o Lula (https://x.com/LulaOficial/status/2030729846054150223) ta querendo botar a culpa em alguém (por mim que proíbam celulares também para "proteger o brasileiro")

Cara, acho que 80% da população brasileira envolvida com bets é um número meio alto, não acha? Tem muita gente perdendo muito dinheiro, isso é fato, mas acredito que o impacto maior acaba sendo nas classes C, D e E.

O pessoal com mais condição financeira geralmente tem mais informação e entende melhor que esse lance de bets é pura sorte e que, no longo prazo, o cassino sempre vence.

Então acho que esse número aí pode estar um pouco exagerado, não?

It can be effective in a net number of people who are not tech-savvy enough to install Tor or other similar tools to bypass blocks by the government.
My point is: if someone wants to access a webpage, they will eventually find their way to do it, thanks to those tools. Those who don't, then are not getting as many benefits as the few people who continue to access through VPN or Tor.

One cannot underestimate the will of some people to continue to access their favorite services from their countries, I am talking from my own personal experience as a Venezuelan, a country under a very bad and authocratic regime,.which rules over what can be easily accessed through internet.

Guess what is the Max Bubble price now (April 29, 2026) ?

Yeah, we can always go back to that but I wanted to take you out of the picture so I wouldn't always have to PM you and bother you with the updates. Logpaste seemed like a simpler and automated solution but it seems a thing of the past now.

I am not surprised to be honest. I am sure there are other casinos that I need to update. I wanted to start yesterday, but Logpaste being down gave me a reason to procrastinate further.

This is related to a failed download from logpaste.com. I've restored the latest backup.
Ironically, it failed the moment you mentioned the problem:
This made my script overwrite the old list with <nothing>.

Hi bitmover,

Did something happen or change with bitcoindata.science between yesterday and this morning?
I just noticed that all my images in Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos are down. Everything was fine yesterday when I posted in the topic, but now none of the images are visible. Do you know what happened?

I don't want to lecture you on manners, but it's considered bad manners to look into someone else's wallet (even if it's publicly available on the blockchain).

What could be more prudent than sacrificing a small portion of your assets (for safekeeping) in order to preserve the rest? Therefore, I believe that investing in security (the safety of assets) always pays off handsomely.

Well, I don't think you can be 100% safe. Therefore, you need to diversify, specifically, buy several devices. I don't think everything costs $259, because that would be a waste.

Most of crypto assets is stored on safe7, a small part - on cheaper and simpler trezor models (those without Dual Secure Element architecture and Next-gen TROPIC01 secure chip).


Pros: Improved protection.

Cons: bluetooth and battery.

For the sake of increased security, you are prepared to accept a potential vulnerability with bluetooth (I doubt, of course, that having bluetooth turned off in your safe will pose a threat to the safety of your coins) and the risk of physical self-destruction of this hardware wallet due to a flaming battery (the likelihood of this is also extremely low, and after all, you have a seed phrase for backup recovery - I hope not in the same safe).

Specifically designed to receive quantum-secure updates
Quantum-ready security - and this point in the description of safe7 looks to me like a clever marketing ploy, manipulating the current fears of bitcoiners about the threat of a quantum computer (by the way, which doesn't a threat at the moment).

What the fuck is prudent income?

Prudence means to use good judgement, yet it is vague as fuck to be describing income as prudent.  Stop using such vague language because it is not saying anything that is helpful nor explanatory.


I am not sure if this makes sense.  Maybe you can explain a bit better?

I understand guys go through accumulation phase.. and so what is that like from your perspective?

Then maybe they will go through a period in which they are neither buying nor selling.. perhaps a maintenance stage.

And then they will reach a stage of overaccumulation.. .. where they would be able to sell portions of their bitcoin stash..

If they are selling portions without depleting their principle then that would be sustainable, and if they are depleting their principle that would not be sustainable.

Maybe you can give some examples to explain how your three investment points fit in with these ideas?


Maybe you can give an example of what you mean.  What might be some ways in which guys might have had "reached the right time," and if they "reach the right time," then what can happen?


Yeah, but what does it mean to "go all in"?  Sure people say it, but what does it mean?  I am pretty sure that "all in" is going to have quite a bit of variance, and there surely could be ways in which "going all in" could be problematic, especially if BTC prices drop a lot and the person needs cash to pay his bills.

Many normal folks need to measure the amount that they have in bitcoin, especially if they earn and their bills are in fiat.  Some examples of "all in" might be helpful to understand what is meant by such expression and if it means anything more than people just saying it but not really meaning what they seem to be saying.


It makes a difference if a person invests in bitcoin in chunks or if the investment might be smoothly spread through a certain period of time, whether that is 4 years or some other period of time.

It also may well make a difference what the bitcoin price did during that time. It can be quite difficult to talk in abstraction.

as you suggested, if a guy came to bitcoin 4 years ago and he ONLY had the income from his employment, then he would be somewhat limited with how much he is able to put in from his discretionary funds and the extent to which he had already buit up his back, up funds prior to coming into bitcoin or if he were to need to build up his back up funds while he was also investing into bitcoin.

Another guy might be in a similar income situation, yet if he came to bitcoin and he had already had 10 years or more investing, then he might be able to reallocate from his other investments, or his other investment can serve as forms of back up funds that still allow him to invest more aggressively into bitcoin as compared with someone who did not have those other investments and/or back up resources.

It does not seem as likely a scenario that a guy would invest in bitcoin for 4 years in a perhaps modest or even whimpy way and then after 4 years increase his level of aggressiveness, even though sure, there could be scenarios in which a guy was not making as much money in his first 4 years of being in bitcoin, and his income ended up going up at a later time down the road, such as he got a promotion or maybe he received an inheritance, so then the amount of his discretionary funds became way greater than it had been in his earlier years of investing into bitcoin.  In a similar vein, it could also be the case that a guy starts out investing in bitcoin in a fairly conservative way, yet after 4 years or more being involved in bitcoin, maybe his income does not really improve, yet his conviction (and confidence) in regards to bitcoin improves, which then motivates him to invest more aggressively into bitcoin and maybe even motivates him to figure out ways to try to increase his income and/or to decrease his expenses.

There are situations that are more typical and not so typical situations that guys might find themselves into, even though surely each of us ends up trying to identify and figure out the ways in which we can balance our own particulars and figure out the extent that we might try to push our level of bitcoin accumulation aggressiveness, or maybe to stay with a more modest approach to our bitcoin accumulation.. and there surely can end up being some value in not pushing our limits too much, since if we are pushing our limits there could be ways that we end up making mistakes that we would not have had made if we had taken a more modest and balanced approach to make sure that we are not crossing over lines that may well end up causing us towards experiencing unnecessary financial and/or psychological damages.


Like you mentioned, whether a guy had reached overaccumulation status or not, he might decide to start selling some or all of his bitcoin, which may or may not be the right decision, yet people have to figure out their own situations.  I would suggest that such person is trading if he is selling some or all of his bitcoin with an intention to buy back cheaper, and a person is not trading if he is selling merely for the purpose of substituting or supplementing his income with no intention to buy back cheaper.


Maybe I misread your earlier post?  Now, after your further clarification.. you seem to be suggesting that the reason for the change of plan and the starting to sell has to do with either impatience (like 10 years has been enough time, and they feel that they deserve to discontinue based on their having had spent enough time building their investment).. or alternatively, they are coming to a realization (or at least a conclusion) that they had set their goals too high.. so in some sense, by starting to sell, they are moving their goals down to a lower place that they had already reached.

In the end, it is their conclusion how to manage the extent to which they consider themselves to continue to be in their accumulation stage and perhaps how fast they might move from being in their accumulation phase and then transitioning into their sustainable withdrawal phase (and in your case, it might not even be sustainable withdrawal that they are entering into, instead they are moving into withdrawing whatever they can.. and probably depleting their principle due to what seems to be lack of patience).

In the end they can do what they like, yet it seems in my experience, there tends to be a transition phase between accumulation and starting to withdraw.. .so after many years of accumulating, guys might start to conclude that they are not getting as much bang for the buck when they continue to add to their bitcoin stash.. so instead of buying they go through a maintenance stage that might last 2-4 years or even longer where they are largely neither buying more bitcoin and they are not really selling bitcoin either.. they are just letting their bitcoin ride for a bit longer prior to starting any of their withdrawal, which may well make it easier to start to do their withdrawal in a sustainable way once they start to do it a few years after they had already largely stopped accumulating.. whether they employ price based sustainable withdrawal or time based sustainable withdrawal or a combination of both.


Sometimes impatient folks fail/refuse to consider all of the options, even though surely they may well end up getting into a place where it might start to make sense to start to employ some level of withdrawal.. yet it might not necessarily mean to withdraw as much as they might believe that they need to do. 

Let's say that a person who had an income of $20k per year spent the last 10 years accumulating bitcoin at $20 per week, and they had a goal to get their income from their bitcoin stash so that they would be able to withdraw $40k per year from it, and so over the past 10 years, they had invested right around $10,500 into bitcoin, and their bitcoin stash is currently right around 2.24 bitcoin.

If they assess 2.24 bitcoin, they calculate that right now, they could sustainably withdraw right around $13.5k per year and $1,125 per month, which is far lower than their goal of being able to withdraw $40k per year.   They largely realize that they had invested too whimpily into bitcoin, yet they consider that right now they are not really in any kind of a financial or psychological position to make up for their past mistakes of being overly whimpy in their bitcoin investment.

So, there could be cases where guys had gotten themselves into their own pickle or maybe even if they had not gotten themselves into their own pickle, they are still short of their aspirations.. yet personally, I doubt that the solution is to start to withdraw, even though you consider that they might come to such a conclusion and consider their solution to be reasonable.

I am actually of the belief that a person with 2.24 BTC right now who is able to hold such BTC until late 2030 (which surely is 4.5 years from now), they would be able to sustainably withdraw at a rate of $40k per year by that time on that amount of BTC.  I know that my current fuck you status chart shows an earlier date for such withdrawal levels, so there surely would be needs to monitor the situation and decisions whether to continue to build the bitcoin holdings or to just work on other aspects of finances and psychology while keeping that bitcoin stash at the same quantity (and for sure making sure that the stash is adequately protected).


You seem to be changing the scenario now (aka moving the goal posts).

Of course, certain kinds of emergencies would cause you to deplete any back up funds that you have remaining, and you might end up in a situation in which the only funds that you have remaining is your bitcoin, and sometimes the circumstances of the loss of income and/or increase in expenses were beyond any cashflow shortages that were within reasonable expectations. So of course in situations that all other funds have been exhausted, then bitcoin might be the ONLY option... and that ends up getting depleted, too.

We make choices regarding our levels of preparations, the aggressiveness level of our bitcoin investment and even our levels in which we protect our bitcoin, and sometimes when there are lessening of income and/or increases in expenses, there is nothing that we can do, after they happen, to go back and to prepare ourselves better (psychologically and/or financially).


Don't act like we (or bitcoiners) invented DCA.  The DCA method has probably been around for more than 100 years, and it was named in a book by Ben Graham in 1949.

AI rendition:
>>>"Dollar-cost averaging (DCA) was first popularized and coined by value investor Benjamin Graham in his classic 1949 book, The Intelligent Investor."<<<<<



You might need an example to illustrate what you are saying Silikiem

I understand that many times we are asserting and reasserting that there is no guarantee that we are going to be in profits, even if we get to be 10 years or more down the road.

Yet when we are calculating where we expect to be (or where we want to be), we are likely considering both the amount of BTC accumulated and the anticipated dollar value of the BTC at the time when we expect that we are going to be entering into some form of sustainable withdrawal.  There also could be a price element and a time element and also potentially some flexibility in terms of determinations that the BTC stash is enough or more than enough.  Even though we might not be focusing on profits, there is likely a bit of a presumption that the stash needs to be in profits in order for the formulas to work, yet at the same time, there could be some guys that may well say that at a certain time, they are starting to enter sustainable withdrawal no matter what the actual price might be..

.....such as if they might say to themselves something like this: 

"Once I reach 62 years old, then I am going to start to withdraw from my BTC within the sustainable withdrawal formula no matter what is the then value of the BTC."

If they are currently 52 years old, and they had already been accumulating bitcoin for 3 years, then that might be a bit of a more realistic projection, as compared with if they are already 59 and they had been accumulating for the prior 3 years, and they do not have as much wiggle room as compared with the person who is younger, even though surely some guys who are even younger might have health problems that provide some difficulties for their being able to project very far into the future in terms of their investment timeline and when they might feel that they have to transition into some form of sustainable withdrawal, whether they had built up their bitcoin stash (prior to that) enough or not.


It seems to me that even if we might not be overly focusing on profits, there is a bit of a presumption that overaccumulation would also be in profits, even though I get (and even agree) that profits are not guaranteed, even though they make the various sustainable withdrawal formulas work better...especially if we might imagine that if we had been investing at a regular rate (such as the same amount weekly) for 4 years, then our average cost per BTC would be around the 200-WMA, and the BTC price tends to spend an overwhelming majority of its time at least 25% higher than the 200-WMA.. even though I understand the idea that being in profits is not guaranteed, even in bitcoin and even if we do everything correct.


Huh?  Your goal is to reach overaccumulation status and then sell?  You are going to convert yourself into a low coiner or a no coiner after you might have had spent 10 years or more building up your bitcoin holdings?


I agree that it would take a person who is investing into bitcoin at less than 5% of his income longer to reach overaccumulation status as compared with a guy who is investing 10%.

And even the person ONLY investing 10% of his income into bitcoin will take longer than the person who is investing 20% of his income into bitcoin.

So, sure, guys have to temper their expectations and their timeline based on their circumstances, and also based on their ability to be consistent, and to avoid screwing up too much in their investment and/or their cashflow management practices.


it is not necessarily trading (especially if they are selling out of need rather than based on an expectation to buy back cheaper), but engaging in such selling surely could set them back in their bitcoin stack building process.


I would think that trading is selling with an expectation to buy back cheaper.


You are correct that there are circumstances in which guys might have to sell some or all of their bitcoin, whether they could have had prevented (or at least mitigated) such a situation or not.


What about DCA?  Why do you consider that there is any preference in buying on the way down rather than just regular buying?  For sure, the newer a person is to bitcoin, then presumptively the less bitcoin that they have, and it tends to take a long time to build up a bitcoin holdings, except perhaps for folks who are able to draw from other resources that they might have and to be able to front load their investment.. otherwise an overwhelming majority of folks are likely going to need 1-2 cycles to just start to get to a point of building a relatively decent bitcoin stack, even if they might have had been able to buy bitcoin every week.. so it seems a bit problematic for an overwhelming quantity of normies to be waiting for BTC price dips that might not end up happening... which causes DCA or some variation of ongoing buying to be a way better practice rather than fucking around with dips that might not end up happening.

Fato!
Mas eu também penso por outro caminho... a pessoa que está em uma idade um pouco mais "avançada" não se preocupa tanto em planejar e evitar riscos, ela "mete a louca" e vai pro tudo ou nada porque sabe que tempo é algo que ela não tem mais. Então é normal que ela se sinta mais atrasada e arisque mais em projetos que ela acredita, mesmo que todo o mundo não esteja adotando aquilo que ela acredita.


Diversificar é a chave! não só bitcoin, muito menos só dolar e menos ainda títulos nacionais.

eu fiquei um tempo cético quanto a isso, até porque sou meio conservador, mas mesmo não entendendo muito disso já aprendi o que é preciso fazer para ficar mais protegido.

Realmente, perdemos a chance de comprar Bitcoin e surfar uma onda de 10x ou 100x. Mas podemos nos resguardar no caso em que aconteça um evento drástico no mundo e a inflação tome conta de nossa moeda fiat. Se o real brasileiro perder ainda mais o seu valor e for especialmente separado para ser usado como papel higienico, ainda temos uma chance do Bitcoin servir como moeda de valor irrestrita, e garantir mais segurança para a nossa família. Fora isso eu também tenho dólares físicos para casos mais emergenciais em que vou precisar subornar alguém com o bom e velho dollar bill.

Não é nem que eu tento espalhar pânico ou o apocalipse, mas como já diziam, o seguro morre de velho.

Parabéns Pumared, fico feliz que tenha conseguido voltar rapidamente à ativa
Um bom sinal é que você foi contratado novamente pelo gerente, significa que ele gosta dos seus posts e conteúdo


Somente uma vez em todos esses anos que eu me inscrevi para uma outra campanha enquanto estava ativo em outra
Mas foi bem atípico, foi naquele mixer super famoso que pagava MUITO, mas vendo hoje eu sei que não tinha chance nenhum, pois o fórum todo tentou as vagas hahaha

Eu considero que é sempre melhor ficar na campanha em que está e não ficar pulando de campanha pois realmente pode dar bastante trabalho desnecessário para o gerente, e você pode sair de uma campanha duradoura para uma que será curta

The reality is that 99% of the degens here just tick the I agree to the Terms and Conditions box because they're itching to deposit their funds and hit the slots, the dice, or the sportsbooks.
 Nobody really wants to read a 30 page wall of legal mumbo jumbo. But we all have to do it

 SLOTS

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sure, most of the casino players including me finds it difficult read through the TOS of casinos and understand it very well. So, that they won't have issues with any changes done by the operators.
It's time we start having the urge to read through the TOs so we're sure to expect any changes at anytime.

That’s correct. To confirm, there are no mandatory KYC requirements for crypto deposits or withdrawals, regardless of the amount.

The only exception is if our system flags fraudulent activity (such as multi-accounting, bonus abuse, or suspicious patterns). In those specific cases, we reserve the right to request verification to protect the platform.

We also appreciate the suggestion regarding the Terms of Service—we are currently working on updating the wording to make this distinction between fiat and crypto users much clearer for everyone.

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We are already working on this , thanks for suggestions



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Thank you for your valuable feedback. we know that many players have a strong preference for "originals" or mini-games like Dice, Plinko, and Crash due to their fast pace and strategic play.

We have redirected this concern to the relevant team for immediate review. Our goal is to ensure that players who genuinely enjoy these games aren't unfairly restricted by policies designed to stop bad actors.

We are actively working to improve this gap by:

Expanding our library with more diverse game options.

Reviewing our wagering policies to better accommodate different playstyles.

We will keep the community updated as we make these adjustments. We appreciate your patience as we work to find the right balance!

The explanation clears something about their terms on KYC but if the ToS is already outdated, they will need to update it as soon as possible, especially after it was found by community and they were already aware about that too.

ToS needs to be written in very details, and precisely reflects what the company offers to users. From the answer, they provide no KYC service for cryptocurrency users, but if it is fiat currency users from Visa/ Mastercard, KYC will be requested, mandatory so these two opposite terms must be added to their ToS. It's better to have a transparent and detailed ToS than lacking of some details which can confuse users and can be a possible reputation damage factor for their company too.

Hello,

Thank you for your interest.

The issue we are currently facing is related to Trustpilot’s strict policies regarding how businesses invite users to leave reviews. Trustpilot requires that all review invitations are sent directly through their platform to ensure compliance with their guidelines.

We had been in discussions with them and had already started the integration process. However, during this period, we independently sent an email to our users inviting them to rate their experience with the casino. Unfortunately, this approach did not align with their policies, and as a result, a warning notice was placed on our profile.

Since then, we have been working to address the situation and ensure full compliance with their requirements moving forward.

Please let us know if you need any additional details.


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We are a Hybrid brand , as you can see there are fiat payment options too, that's why there is a verification requirement, but i can assure you it's fully no KYC on crypto as mentioned. This rule about verification is only for visa/Mastercard users .


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We’re here and actively working on everything. There’s a lot more coming in terms of campaigns and updates, and we’ll keep things moving on our side.

All threads will be answered and handled accordingly.

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We are here from now on and everything will be alright , just got everything up and now we will work with you guys to make CasinOK better place for users


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We understand your concern. We’ve only recently set everything up on the forum, so it took us a bit of time to get fully organized here.

That said, we’re now actively monitoring and from this point on all questions and threads will be answered.


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We understand your point, and just to clarify — this rule is not there to limit regular players, but to prevent fraudulent activity.

We’ve seen cases where certain games (like dice or similar low-risk/high-frequency games) are used to bypass requirements or gain unfair advantage. Because of that, some restrictions are applied specifically to protect the system and keep things fair for everyone.

That said, we’re always reviewing these rules and trying to keep the balance between security and a good player experience.

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Many times, I have described the use of debt as a more advance technique that likely would be better to not be deployed until a guy is already used to managing cashflows in regular ways and the guys who had sufficiently build up his cashflow management and/or back up funds.. even though surely guys might prematurely start to use debt when they might not really be ready for it..

Yet.. I think that you and I (@ZeroVinsonN) started out this area of the conversation in terms of how a guy who is considering starting out investing into bitcoin would be treating the debt that he already has in place. .. and in some sense, it hardly even matters how he got into such debt - except perhaps to the extent that he might not be able to change bad habits that he already has.. yet I personally don't want to dwell on those kinds of situations (even though surely each guy has to identify if he has problems and to figure out tactics to fix their problems to the extent that they believe that they have problems).. and it seems that my own emphasis, was pointing out ways to go forward to deal with debt that is already there and not really talking so much about adding new debt, even though surely I can imagine situations in which guys clear up their old debt and get their finances into a stronger place and then go down the road of using debt, again.. which may or many not be a problem, even though surely the use of debt can sometimes have challenges in terms of how the debt is being used and also the accounting for the costs of using the debt versus not using the debt and calculating possible future value from the use of such debt... so in the case of bitcoin, surely a guy could come to his own assessment and he might see that the totality of debt is going to cost him right round 6% per year for the next 5 years, and then he might estimate that bitcoin (or wherever he puts the money from the debt) is likely to perform at a rate that is greater than 6% per year for the next 5 years (and yeah, he may or may not be correct on that), and he may well decide that it is worth it to enter into the debt .. those are individual choices in regards to what tactics to use and the advantages versus disadvantages and if they end up benefiting or losing on their bet, then that is on them too in terms of reaping the benefits or bearing the costs of their actions.


You seem to be over-assuming the terms of the debt and/or the burden of the debt... There are ways to manage debt and to make sure that discretionary funds are still available to invest into bitcoin, even if they might have relatively onerous debt terms.. which is another reason that I would like to repeat that if guys have various sources of debt, then they can potentially figure out ways to resolve (pay off) the most onerous debt first, and yeah, if the whole debt is relatively onerous, they might need to bring the debt down to a certain level of manageability so that they conclude that their discretionary funds are high enough to continue to ongoingly buy bitcoin.  Attempts at smart management of debt does not tend to be all or nothing propositions, even though surely there could be some circumstances in which the debt needs to be either resolved or to brought down to more manageable amounts before resuming investing into bitcoin starts to make more sense.   I tend to place a pretty high priority on both investing into bitcoin and ongoingly building a bitcoin investment, yet surely at the same time, the devil is in the details in regards to conclusions about if their discretionary funds are enough to both allow them to invest in bitcoin and to otherwise allocate towards savings and/or discretionary consumption too (while at the same time servicing their debt(s)).


You are speaking in a bit of gobble-dee-gook, ZeroVinsonN.  If we are initially setting up the terms of debt, then of course, to even be able to take the loan, we have to have enough discretionary income to service such loan, and if the loan has minimal terms, then those would become part of basic expenses.  There can be abilities to pay extra which would reduce future payment requirements.  There can also be options to default or to underpay, which might create more costs depending on default terms and/or if the loan originator is holding collateral. or maybe they know where you are at, so the costs could be the loss of limbs or your life if you default.  Terms are going to vary and some aspects of the terms will be more optional than other aspects.  We are likely getting too much into the weeds on this discussion, and guys can figure these kinds of details for themselves, or maybe create another thread to discuss these kinds of matters, to the extent that they need to be (or want to be) discussed.


Yep.  Collateral versus non-collateral loans makes a difference in options, and guys can still have various aspects of their personal finances in a mess (including outstanding loans) and still invest in bitcoin at the same time while they might be figuring out ways to lessen or resolve various outstanding messy financial circumstances, including but not limited to debt management.


Even though you are using the term "invest" @Bright0515, you seem to be talking about trading.

How could a person consider himself to be investing for 5 years?  What would your example of a guy do at 5 years?  He spent 4 years accumulating and then the BTC price is going up and down, and he is just waiting for the BTC price to go up and then he sells all of his bitcoin?

From my perspective, investing has both an in and out strategy, yet the out strategy would likely not be all at once, unless there was an emergency or perhaps some age consideration that might justify moving from bitcoin into something that is more dollar stable.. based on needs to cash out such as health/age.

Otherwise, if we are planning to get out of bitcoin completely, that sounds like trading rather than investing - especially something like 5 years.

Furthermore, Bright0515, what are you considering that plan for the hypothetical guy that you mentioned to be having a 5-year timeline?

Maybe I can give another hint of what I might consider to be a timeline that is less than 10 years.  Let's say that a guy is in his early 60s when he heard about bitcoin, and so maybe he had been making various investments all of his life that had not really performed too well and he has some retirement benefits, yet they do not really add up to very much.  He was making around $80k per year, and he would like to make $80k per year in his retirement with a 7% per year increase, and so when he looks at his various benefits, he sees that they likely are going to pay him around $35 per year and maybe around 3% per year increase in the cost of living, so he decides to put his value into bitcoin so that the bitcoin can start to supplement whatever income he is going to be able to draw at 65 years old, and so wherever his bitcoin happen to be at 65 years old, he will start drawing from it at that time.  He might even have enough of his current investment portfolio that he is able to pretty much assure that he can put around $160k (2 years of his income) into bitcoin in the next two years (which would end up being right around $1,550 per week)... and then after the first 2 years of buying bitcoin, then he would continue to invest about $300 per week into bitcoin until his retirement 5 years after he started.. and he would start to withdraw at whatever the withdrawal rate would be at that time..

So let's actually apply this guy's situation to what happened in bitcoin in the past 5-ish years, and so let's say that the guy started investing $1,550 per week in bitcoin in January 2021 (of course not really a great time to start, but it is what it is).. So the first 2 years from January 1, 2021 until December 31, 2022 had him investing $162k into bitcoin and he accumulated 5.1 bitcoin.  

Thereafter starting from January 1, 2023 to date, he invested at $300 per week into bitcoin which caused him to invest right around $53k and accumulating right around 1.1 BTC.

So, right now, the guy is going to start his sustainable withdrawal with the amount of bitcoin that he has.  So right now, he had invested a total of $215k, and he had accumulated 6.2 BTC.  We can look at his sustainable withdrawal level, and see that his 200-WMA value for 6.2 BTC is right about $373k, which means that he could start right now withdrawing at $37.3k per year, or better monthly at $3,100 per month... and then also with a 7% increase per year, and so even though this is not the guy's only income it will supplement whatever other income that he has, which likely still will not add up to his earlier income, but it was the best that he was able to do based on his circumstances and his start date from 5 years ago.  He is still not in a bad position, and from my perspective, he would have had been investing rather than trading, even though he had start and end dates that ended up being only slightly more than 5 years (in the example I gave).


I agree with your other points about no guarantee, since of course there are both execution risks and underlying asset risks.


Your merely having faith in bitcoin does not cause it to become more guaranteed to be successful, even though surely you can control various aspects within your own control to attempt to lessen execution risk as much as feasible... even though you might not always know about certain aspects of execution risk and/or  certain aspects of the risks of the underlying asset (bitcoin in this case).


History does not guarantee results, and buying dips is an inferior practice as compared with DCA.


Even if you do everything right and you even have an investment timeline that is 10-15 years or longer, you are not guaranteed to have success (or to be in a better position for having had invested into bitcoin as compared with if you had not).

There are plenty of guys who consider bitcoin to be an asymmetric bet to the upside and perhaps amongst the best of investments (if not the best investment), so they can recognize that as long as they do not leverage the most they could lose is 100% of what they put in, yet they can also structure their own discretionary funds in such a way that allows them to invest as much as they are able to invest into bitcoin without over doing it (in other words in an aggressive way), and yeah, they can monitor their bitcoin investment as it goes and continue to consider whether or not bitcoin's investment thesis is getting weaker, stronger or staying the same with the passage of time.

People usually don't care reading that information, especially if they didn't try to experience those worst situation. But if they tried to get compromised and have hassle experience dealing with their problems on the casino.

For sure that by that time they find relevance reading the TOS at first, when they are still on registration phase to know the rules of the casino. Much better for gamblers that they should not wait for issue to come and better read those important notes, so they can avoid facing any problems.

Most of the players don't truly spend time reading the ToS of these casinos because if they do, most of them wouldn't really feel relaxed while playing because most of these terms gives these casino the right to adjust their ToS at their will and if I'm to answer the question directly, the I would say that, the casino benefit from people not reading their ToS because if people do, they would be more careful.

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    68. 1634314: shahzadafzal (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 3198 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    69. 1668017: anonymousminer (Trust: +42 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 1417 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    70. 1724800: Lakai01 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 4019 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    71. 1827294: Husna QA (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 3375 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    72. 1852120: fillippone (Trust: +14 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (23) 20302 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    73. 1862043: cryptofrka (Trust: +18 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2649 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    74. 1878246: abhiseshakana (Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (1) 2476 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    75. 1980983: The Cryptovator (Trust: +20 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (19) 2545 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    76. 1982152: lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +30 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (30) 5596 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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    78. 2015418: notblox1 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 1559 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    79. 2344286: Little Mouse (Trust: +50 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (14) 3535 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    80. 2363935: YOSHIE (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (18) 1890 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    81. 2477002: inspace (Trust: +5 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1304 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    82. 2497429: jokers10 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 3971 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    83. 2519096: Awaklara (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 830 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    84. 2652924: geophphreigh (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 1143 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    85. 2654005: zasad@ (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (7) 5530 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    86. 2658890: Rikafip (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (25) 7899 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    87. 2709122: Etranger (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1866 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    88. 2739424: NotATether (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (10) 9618 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    89. 2739454: Stalker22 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1553 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    90. 2775483: BlackHatCoiner (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 9678 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    91. 2776678: Charles-Tim (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 6316 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    92. 2796662: Lillominato89 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1242 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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     1. 3: satoshi (Trust: +46 / =0 / -0) (8537 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 4: sirius (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (884 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
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     5. 2676: casascius (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (193 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
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     7. 2786: Pieter Wuille (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (198 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 3318: Luke-Jr (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (201 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 3380: Vladimir (Trust:  neutral) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 3420: dooglus (Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (335 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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    14. 7351: EPiSKiNG (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. 10354: JJG (Trust:  neutral) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. 10502: SgtSpike (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (5 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. 11275: wariner (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (4 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. 11671: Kluge (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (19 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. 12089: piotr_n (Trust:  neutral) (449 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Tenho usado o NordVPN, e estou satisfeito.

Além disso, eles tem demonstrado uma atitude muito assertiva, com relação as tentativas de alguns governos na Europa, com relação a exposição de informações de clientes por parte das VPNs. Eles tem afirmado, que não tem logs e por isso nunca vão partilhar, e estão dispostos a deixar de operar em alguns países.

https://torrentfreak.com/french-court-orders-popular-vpns-to-block-more-pirate-sites-despite-opposition/

Apesar de outras empresas contestarem essas ações dos governos, a NordVPN foi a que tem marcado mais essa posição de "no-log".

Não acho que a galera da rodoviária está usando a Polymarket


Acho que muita gente usou.. a diferença é que ninguém postava nada para entrar na mira e tomar a famosa multa de R$ 50 mil.


Aqui também não.. o negócio é ficar longe dessas grandes operadoras..

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Governo publicou um vídeo sobre o assunto: https://x.com/govbr/status/2047803189328539791

Falam em "controle de vício" e "proteção da economia".. mas se fosse essa a questão, bastaria criaria uma lei onde quem tem histórico em apostas perderia direitos a auxílios.. mas isso faria eles perderem votos.

Igual quando foi com o twitter, ficou só uma turma de elite. Galera sobrestima o poder de censura do estado.

Eu uso um tal de Eddie VPN, proton eu não confio nem no email, eles peidam muito fácil.

Yeah, when it comes to living off Bitcoin, this is actually a real point that a lot of folks often ignore. There’s quite a big difference between just hodling bitcoin and actually having to depend on your stash for survival.

The part about living within your means is very very crucial for every investor. Whether the investor is in his accumulation phase or already living off his stash, it’s important for their lifestyle to really match the capacity of their Bitcoin stash and not what the actual capacity you feel or wish your BTC would be. I believe your example about the 1 BTC vs 3 BTC clearly explains it perfectly. The difference isn’t just small, it infact changes everything in terms of safety and comfort.

I also think the $500 monthly from 1 BTC you mentioned above is quite honest and realistic. Although for some, this may not be enough to cover for their expenses, in fact it could be more of just support money. So in this situation, the best thing would be to support it with an alternative source of income because relying fully on Bitcoin can be very risky. But with a stash of 3 BTC, there’s a bit more room to withdraw more, and even if it’s not luxury, but it should still be good enough.

Although I don’t really know about the 7% increase part, although it makes sense on paper, but I know that Bitcoin isn’t always steady you know, we do have bad years and good years, some years could be lower and some years higher, so if one attempts to strictly follow that plan, it could cause some complications, like selling low, which of course wouldn’t be all that favourable. That’s why that part, I feel necessary adjustments should be worth considering, as this could potentially be seen as the real backbone of that strategy, not just necessary but very necessary.

In my own personal opinion, I view sustainable withdrawal as less of a fixed formula and more of a kind of dynamic system, although I don’t know, cos I’ve not really reached that stage yet, so I wouldn’t know lol.

In conclusion, I think your framework makes a lot of sense, particularly the part you buttressed on realism, cushioning and most importantly adaptability, because while dealing with an asset as volatile as Bitcoin, surviving in the market isn’t just based on the math holding up, but more about your reaction and response should incase it doesn’t…

Valores maiores, maiores ganhos ou perdas.
Valores menores, menores ganhos ou perdas.

Investir em algo, não depende do seu valor atual, mas sim o valor potencial.
Por isso, mesmo que pouco, investir em BTC é sempre uma oportunidade de bom retorno.

Se o resultado futuro, vai ser igual ao passado? Isso ninguém sabe. Mas, nunca podemos investir a pensar nos ganhos passados. Porque como todo o investidor diz: ganhos passados, não garante ganhos futuros.

Ou seja, se você acredita no Bitcoin, vale sempre apena fazer aquisições, não importa o montante.




Não vai porque?
Talvez porque a malta ficou presa na ideia de hold, em vez da ideia de utilizar.

O objetivo do Bitcoin era mudar o mundo financeiro, mas a malta preferiu pegar nessa narrativa, para usa-lo no mesmo modelo financeiro tradicional, que era suposto combatelo.

O caso NVIDIA é interessante, em 6-7 anos, eles deram um salto que nem eles estavam a espera. Mas, isso também não significa que irão ficar nesse ritmo para sempre. Até porque mais cedo ou mais tarde, eles irão ter concorrência minimamente eficaz. Poderão continuar a ser os melhores, mas não os únicos capazes (como agora quase são).

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I doubt that you are getting the right message from me if you believe that merely creating a time target (seemingly less than 4 years) is anything close to a solid investment plan, since preparing the money for a wedding date comes off as gambling to me, unless the wedding might be 6 years or more into the future, and even then it may be problematic to be putting money needed (or wanted) for a wedding into bitcoin... especially if you believe yourself to be an investor rather than a trader or a gambler.


You need to be more specific, especially in terms of the "endless" concept, even though I do know some guys who have amporphous goals and also seem to think that they could never have enough bitcoin. yet it seems that maybe they have not really thought through ideas of what they are wanting to achieve.

I frequently bring up the idea of a guy who might have a certain income level and then maybe having a goal to either replace his income level or perhaps alternatively to get to some amount that is reasonably higher than his current income level.. and some levels of multiples above might be more reasonable than aiming for 10x or 100x or some otherwise seemingly unrealistic level... .. but yeah, guys sometimes seem to trap themselves into frameworks in which they seem to "never have enough," which seems a bit self-defeating.. even though maybe they might be able to figure out ways to become more realistic when they might start to get close to what they consider to be an acceptable goal.. and sometimes the goals might become more concrete when they are closer to being attained rather when they are in their earlier stages and still seeming to be more theoretical than practical.


Some guys cannot help but wanting to compete with others, which might be problematic if they are being unrealistic.


Even if a guy sets a goal for himself, he might frame it in terms of a competition with another version of himself.. so it does seem that some guys might need some comparable measurement in order to motivate themselves, even though as you imply, the competition might sometimes be unrealistic or unhealthy.


He's a trader/gambler, and yeah, maybe it will work out and maybe not.  He can do whatever he likes, but I would not consider him to be "investing," and yeah, he can call it what he likes too, but I would disagree, especially with a 3-4 year timeline (even if it might end up working out for the guy).


Sure.  Living within one's means is important, whether a person is still accumulating, or has reached maintenance phase or might start to employ sustainable withdrawal.

And, he may be using his bitcoin to supplement other income sources that he has or he might be planning to completely live off of the BTC... even though objectively, if a guy already is considering himself at sustainable withdrawal then 1 BTC is ONLY going to have a sustainable withdrawal income that is 1/3 of the 3 BTC.

I calculate that currently 1 BTC will ONLY have a sustainable withdrawal amount of $6k per year or $500 per month, while of course, if 3 BTC is 3x the size then it would have an annual sustainable withdrawal amount of $18k per year or $1,500 per month.  Of course, my own calculations allow the annual dollar rate of the sustainable withdrawal amount to be raised by 7% each year, yet if guys have little to no cushion and they are withdrawing the maximum, then it is possible that the formulas might not work out if they don't have any extra cushion.  So sometimes monitoring and adjustment might have to take place if guys are trying to withdraw at their maximum sustainable withdrawal rate.


Even though I am a pretty BIG advocate of get the fuck started investing in bitcoin as soon as possible once recognizing that discretionary funds are available, at the same time, I think that ongoing studying of bitcoin and reviewing investing and cashflow management systems is an important ongoing process, and surely some guys get quite a bit of pleasure out of monitoring their finances and their progress while other guys want to be less formal and less introspective in regards to how they are investing and how they are managing their cashflows... so from my perspective there should be monitoring and possibly adjusting going on no matter the stage, whether in the accumulation stage, the maintenance stage or the sustainable withdrawal stage.


I think that it matters, and I think that the 200-WMA is the best way to valuate and attempt to help what to do. .at least when it comes to figuring out how close a guy might be to time-based sustainable withdrawal.

Price-based sustainable withdrawal does not rely on the 200-WMA as much (if at all).

So of course, I think it matters, and so far in bitcoin's history, the 200-WMA has ONLY gone up and has tended to be a bottom indicator.. so even if it is not guaranteed, to hold in terms of always going up or being a bottom indicator, it still seems to be a good tool to help in figuring out how to proceed and even to determine if enough bitcoin has been accumulated.
 


Sure. The investor has to figure out how to use the tools, and if he ends up entering into sustainable withdrawal and withdraws too much too soon because he is misreading (and misusing the tools) then, yeah, he could get himself into trouble by not figuring out how to use the tools correctly so that he does not sell too much too soon.

On the other side, I have seen some guys who have enough BTC to start sustainable withdrawal at their chosen income level, yet they are afraid to start, even though they might already have double the bitcoin for their target income level.  So, guys could make the mistake in either direction 1) withdrawing too much too soon or 2) waiting way too long before starting to begin withdrawals.


Well if a guy ONLY has bitcoin and cash, then he may well not be prepared if he has 95% or more in bitcoin and he is not prepared for the price to correct 50% or 75% or more... so yeah, guys could end up getting themselves in trouble if they cannot figure out a comfortable balance.  Some of these concerns might not make as much sense if we are not walking through some examples, since guys could have some income sources and they are merely ongoingly building up their bitcoin investment, yet if they lose their income source, then they might have to start to live off of their bitcoin or they might have to try to find another income source, but if they already have accurately assessed their overaccumulation status based on the 200-WMA and they have a sufficient cushion of bitcoin that is beyond their target levels (such as 2x) then I have a hard time understanding how that would be a problem unless the guy is other wise miscalculating his status based on spot price rather than the 200-WMA.

Maybe I need to give an example?  

If a guy has a target income from his BTC of $80k per year, and he looks up how many bitcoin that he needs, and he sees the bare minimum at this moment for that $80k per year income level is 13.3102 BTC, then maybe he might not rest assured until he gets 50% higher than his bare minimum number.. which would be 19.9653 BTC, so if he still has his job, and maybe he is already making somewhere close to $80k per year in his regular job or maybe he is making less than $80k per year, so isn't the devil in the details regarding if the guy loses his job, and I am not sure if he needs to have other resources, as long as he has enough bitcoin.  Also, there could be a question of how much above his target level of BTC he had accumulated, and whether he is willing to live off less of an income until the sustainable withdrawal rate goes up?  Or maybe you want to say that the guy miscalculated his withdrawal rate in some kind of a way?.. since if he loses his job, he may or may not have a cushion of cash, yet if he has enough BTC, then he does not need any cushion of cash because he has enough or more than enough bitcoin for his targeted withdrawal level

You probably need to clarify what you are wanting to say exactly in terms of any need to diversify, which may not even be necessary if the guy is properly valuating within the context of the 200-WMA instead of making assumptions based on spot prices.


You seem to be overly emphasizing the need to diversify, and you may also be thinking about guys who also don't have any cushion and if they are trying to withdraw from BTC and the quantity of BTC is barely at their required income level. You might need to give an example.

Just my personal opinion, but it seems to me people within the government and regulation of stocks in Brazil want people to stop using Polymarket and gramble with money on those national websites and platforms, because it means there will be an steady flow of income in the form of fees for both private actors and also the government.
Still, it is rather a pointless block, because Polymarket does not need any thing beyond an address and money in other to be useful for anyone, and anyone within the world of cryptocurrency would have a minimum of idea how to handle and VPN and understand how bypass those blocks put in place by governments.

It won't change a thing, unless Brazil starts to prosecute those who violate the blockage and try to bet on polymarket.

a pointless block, like if that is going to stop anyone from accessing polymarket.
but with how countries are blocking stuff left and right, soon VPNs will be on the chopping block.

easy, just become an insider 

or do it like these two guys: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/winning-polymarket-bets-strange-temps-164645591.html
the lengths some people go thru to win on polymarket is crazy.

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These blocks are always bullshit, I just use a VPN and impersonate my location to Austria or Hungary or something.

I like being able to trade on events and being right on things (but that's a post for another day)


I guess they just want to rug-pull their customers because no way they are going to post trading events, it will just be binary options gambling on stocks.