bitmover's Bitcointalk Notifications: all posts that quoted or mentioned bitmover in the past 7 days

Weekly update (2026-11-06_Fri_05.18h)

theymos' raw data (format: time amount msg user_from user_to)
Sample

Code:

1793930931 1 5598315.msg67312319 2168312 2033515
1793930021 1 5598699.msg67305525 978497 2776678
1793929320 3 5597134.msg67316112 64507 136896
1793924517 1 5598890.msg67314674 18321 149737
1793923213 10 5.msg28 111072 3
1793922074 2 5598348.msg67294764 1052091 2739454
1793921179 1 5598133.msg67285942 2776678 3645425
1793921159 1 5598133.msg67285658 2776678 3570336
1793920785 1 178336.msg67315917 198573 3322606
1793920159 1 5504134.msg67312792 535215 1593137
1793920037 2 5598819.msg67312608 3503033 1045971
1793919832 1 5462934.msg67315888 2776678 1045971
1793919359 3 5597870.msg67305646 1827294 290195
1793919163 1 5214672.msg67304550 3687357 1852120
1793919069 1 5279042.msg67315637 941526 2004043
1793918688 1 5282911.msg67312635 976210 1137579
1793918683 1 5282911.msg67272308 976210 2745308
1793918574 1 2647185.msg67303213 975910 139084
1793918390 1 5597742.msg67308529 121796 1410401
1793917972 1 178336.msg67315722 223922 33156
1793917971 1 5574734.msg66416431 305778 2843153
1793917930 1 5475372.msg67308814 881377 3367218
1793917601 1 5598988.msg67315336 335231 3575638
1793917579 1 178336.msg67315604 2755547 1027694
1793916564 1 178336.msg67314935 33156 1027694
1793916467 1 5571375.msg67298048 3687357 3513442
1793916010 3 5598007.msg67315238 1045971 379487
1793916001 1 5598871.msg67311841 33156 2423488
1793915999 4 5598871.msg67311997 33156 1410401
1793915996 4 5598871.msg67312632 33156 1292764
1793914899 1 5598828.msg67311678 289817 3693329
1793914591 1 5598961.msg67314705 2745549 3491210
1793914574 2 5598828.msg67313251 289817 459836
1793914365 1 5598988.msg67315336 1031572 3575638
1793914319 2 5598374.msg67293599 1052091 3645972
1793914236 1 178336.msg67315604 198573 1027694
1793913298 1 5597343.msg67315250 1554927 874611
1793912943 1 5595727.msg67298567 407174 3623127
1793912928 2 5595727.msg67300401 407174 3537702
1793912912 2 5595727.msg67300750 407174 3593551
1793912887 1 5595727.msg67303811 407174 3738700
1793912872 2 5595727.msg67312899 407174 3710567
1793912468 1 178336.msg67315472 67210 18321
1793912366 1 178336.msg67315472 64507 18321
1793912229 1 5598762.msg67307470 1024933 3742470
1793911486 2 5598479.msg67299758 3731248 3283582
1793911194 1 5597870.msg67305646 3547723 290195
1793911089 1 5442314.msg67314809 2654005 1285797
1793911077 1 5442314.msg67314896 2654005 3739945
1793910985 1 5438071.msg67315348 1130307 995810
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1516833930 7 2228.msg29479 135920 3
1516833833 1 178336.msg28855702 479624 1130992
1516833813 1 2817737.msg28849540 1001644 990403
1516833798 21 5.msg28 520313 3
1516833796 1 2808926.msg28728384 140584 35
1516833779 1 178336.msg28853916 479624 33156
1516833756 20 2482937.msg25417254 101872 135920
1516833713 21 5.msg28 169515 3
1516833686 1 2818179.msg28855276 994466 1196028
1516833610 49 1545652.msg15536651 206143 520313
1516833593 1 2818066.msg28855136 260067 520313
1516833592 2 2806168.msg28855427 520313 355846
1516833591 49 1545652.msg15536651 881377 520313
1516833523 1 2818066.msg28855343 539826 340795
1516833521 1 2818066.msg28855136 514126 520313
1516833478 1 2818066.msg28855136 482980 520313
1516833460 1 2818066.msg28854596 93844 520313
1516833451 1 2816214.msg28845827 1083353 1520388
1516833430 50 178608.msg28854963 884600 520313
1516833349 1 178336.msg28852898 479624 1521711
1516833346 1 2812863.msg28785611 303315 1707287
1516833329 1 2818066.msg28854596 206143 520313
1516833326 1 178336.msg28852768 479624 181806
1516833304 1 2818066.msg28853325 340795 877396
1516833289 1 2716104.msg28846824 1239985 1739247
1516833281 1 2818066.msg28853686 206143 136484
1516833252 1 2816647.msg28837916 169515 1701092
1516833251 1 178336.msg28849600 479624 172400
1516833237 1 2677441.msg28778318 123412 1090430
1516833230 1 2814078.msg28796083 520313 881377
1516833207 1 2772292.msg28837085 1189487 1028592
1516833203 1 2818066.msg28855136 101872 520313
1516833199 1 2818066.msg28853325 926641 877396
1516833148 1 2808926.msg28793321 78147 35
1516833148 1 2634042.msg28672219 123412 1094601
1516833111 1 2818066.msg28855136 535215 520313
1516833078 45 2813828.msg28801076 135920 101872
1516833070 1 2818066.msg28855136 881377 520313
1516833049 1 2677441.msg28848945 88254 903139
1516833048 1 2818066.msg28855136 101872 520313
1516833044 5 2818066.msg28855019 135920 688810
1516833001 5 2813828.msg28801076 135920 101872
1516832978 1 2384335.msg28854772 1344962 1101839
1516832969 1 2818066.msg28855136 881564 520313
1516832953 1 2818066.msg28854621 520313 101872
1516832934 1 2818066.msg28855136 877396 520313
1516832874 1 178608.msg28792130 884600 35
1516832842 5 2818066.msg28853325 688810 877396
1516832833 2 178336.msg28852079 479624 1257516
1516831941 1 2818066.msg28853325 35 877396

Full list^* (59 MB) (not limited to 120 days, 2334 Merit transactions added since my previous update).
NEW merit.all.txt (59 MB) is available in user-sized chunks at loyce.club/Merit/merit.all/459836.txt (change userID for each user) for userscript processing.

theymos' data (human readable format, including usernames and post titles)
Sample
On Fri 06 Nov 2026 03:08:51 AM CET, yhiaali3 (history) sent 1 Merit to mikeywith (history) for Re: اختراق بينانس- أكتوبر 2026.
On Fri 06 Nov 2026 02:53:41 AM CET, bangjoe (history) sent 1 Merit to Charles-Tim (history) for Re: Hacks are everywhere and Where should we store our money?.
On Fri 06 Nov 2026 02:42:00 AM CET, philipma1957 (history) sent 3 Merit to FiniteByDesign (history) for Re: Time Chain Traveler Begins | f*D Returns to Struck .999 FS | NOW SHIPPING.
On Fri 06 Nov 2026 01:21:57 AM CET, OgNasty (history) sent 1 Merit to BADecker (history) for Re: Democrats win and BTC pumps. Just saying....
On Fri 06 Nov 2026 01:00:13 AM CET, peonminer (history) sent 10 Merit to satoshi (history) for Welcome to the new Bitcoin forum!.
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On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:28:54 PM CET, AdolfinWolf (history) sent 1 Merit to Lutpin (history) for Re: What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:54 PM CET, Dahman El_Harrachi (history) sent 1 Merit to theymos (history) for Re: Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?).
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:22 PM CET, Tyrantt (history) sent 5 Merit to AdolfinWolf (history) for What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:13 PM CET, Last of the V8s (history) sent 2 Merit to Rosewater Foundation (history) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:12:21 PM CET, theymos (history) sent 1 Merit to AdolfinWolf (history) for What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
Full list (623 MB)

Usernames to go with theymos' data
Sample
0: deMerit (Bitcoin Forum) (history) earned: 0 Merit.
3: satoshi (history) earned: 9019 Merit.
4: sirius (history) earned: 935 Merit.
10: Xunie (history) earned: 1 Merit.
11: madhatter (history) earned: 19 Merit.
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3772515: Demian Green (history) earned: 1 Merit.
3772841: bitcoin-arena (history) earned: 1 Merit.
3772908: lishuguang (history) earned: 1 Merit.
3772949: Sven44 (history) earned: 6 Merit.
3772976: boingnetwork (history) earned: 1 Merit.
Full list^* (11 MB)

Usernames machine readable
Sample

Code:

0: deMerit (Bitcoin Forum)
3: satoshi
4: sirius
10: Xunie
11: madhatter
12: nanaimogold
13: SmokeTooMuch
14: The Madhatter
21: AgoraMutual
23: 1 currency now
24: dwdollar
26: NewLibertyStandard
27: riX
28: Sabunir
29: giik
30: BitcoinFX
31: Suggester
33: m0mchil
34: BlueSky
35: theymos
37: soultcer
40: xc
42: ec
49: Cdecker
51: DannyM
97: dsg
101: Goldstein
143: laszlo
145: ducki2p
146: Brandon
163: Karmicads
182: Derrick
183: hugolp
198: allinvain
203: HostFat
206: teppy
217: SirArthur
224: Gavin Andresen
237: lachesis
241: QuantumMechanic
244: nixoid
251: wobber
262: chaord
267: virtualcoin
269: Bitcoiner
270: llama
271: Timo Y
274: limikael
284: joey.rich
288: Stone Man
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3769973: PedroMoisesss
3769995: WW Downloader
3769999: Reroll.gg
3770060: Secksthemex
3770125: ElDorado_21
3770135: Obsidian Games
3770278: Rezo37
3770295: Black_Onyx
3770308: p2pie
3770323: khpalcoin
3770340: MissyMiningCat
3770372: jetLA
3770414: adbench
3770521: Falco Volpe
3770595: varnda
3770612: bitrox
3770667: SleepycatSwap
3770700: Queen Amara Belle
3770776: SirTom7891
3770783: BiggerZ.com
3770794: ClubChess.Net
3771105: blackisbeauty
3771123: ccc.io
3771157: Geofingerprintgeo
3771208: tugba
3771234: chasing.bet
3771237: altfinders
3771268: kemoth00
3771322: twentynine.io
3771337: giantlife
3771348: AnonChangeCom
3771354: rapingabuser
3771379: Anonym Browser
3771430: vpuravida
3771456: DICE777
3771511: Alt112
3771572: casbuy1909
3771641: woopmedia
3771781: u.software
3771893: Safety.casino
3772007: casatupka
3772229: overdog_bet
3772339: Netzfluss
3772436: noxswap
3772514: briggswillis4real
3772515: Demian Green
3772841: bitcoin-arena
3772908: lishuguang
3772949: Sven44
3772976: boingnetwork

Full list (2 MB)

UserIDs, sent Merit and earned Merit machine readable
Sample

Code:

0:569:0
3:0:9019
4:0:935
10:0:1
11:0:19
12:0:2
13:3:99
14:0:13
21:0:2
23:0:1
24:0:10
26:0:19
27:0:60
28:0:16
29:0:4
30:380:800
31:0:1
33:0:27
34:0:4
35:14659:15495
37:0:6
40:0:4
42:0:69
49:0:5
51:0:2
97:0:2
101:0:2
143:0:2792
145:0:2
146:0:4
163:0:21
182:1:0
183:9:1
198:2:87
203:68:311
206:0:14
217:3:36
224:0:1498
237:0:6
241:0:9
244:0:1
251:0:1
262:0:1
267:0:2
269:0:2
270:0:57
271:0:1
274:0:42
284:0:6
288:0:11
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3769973:0:1
3769995:0:1
3769999:0:29
3770060:0:1
3770125:0:8
3770135:0:1
3770278:0:2
3770295:0:3
3770308:0:4
3770323:0:1
3770340:0:11
3770372:0:5
3770414:0:8
3770521:0:2
3770595:0:1
3770612:0:1
3770667:2:24
3770700:0:1
3770776:0:1
3770783:0:22
3770794:0:1
3771105:0:4
3771123:0:20
3771157:0:1
3771208:0:5
3771234:0:1
3771237:0:5
3771268:0:2
3771322:0:3
3771337:0:1
3771348:15:40
3771354:0:1
3771379:0:1
3771430:0:1
3771456:0:1
3771511:0:5
3771572:0:21
3771641:0:2
3771781:0:14
3771893:0:2
3772007:0:1
3772229:0:1
3772339:0:5
3772436:1:2
3772514:0:1
3772515:0:1
3772841:0:1
3772908:0:1
3772949:0:6
3772976:0:1

Full list (1 MB)

Total number of users who received 1 or more Merit: 52019
Sample

Code:

1. 22080 Merit received by LoyceV (#459836) from 1139 unique users in 12843 transactions
2. 21899 Merit received by fillippone (#1852120) from 784 unique users in 11922 transactions
3. 18984 Merit received by o_e_l_e_o (#1188543) from 801 unique users in 10006 transactions
4. 15808 Merit received by El duderino_ (#1067333) from 482 unique users in 9058 transactions
5. 15495 Merit received by theymos (#35) from 1247 unique users in 5680 transactions
6. 14212 Merit received by JayJuanGee (#252510) from 750 unique users in 9327 transactions
7. 13721 Merit received by icopress (#1137579) from 625 unique users in 5123 transactions
8. 12596 Merit received by cygan (#27470) from 554 unique users in 6464 transactions
9. 12454 Merit received by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) from 513 unique users in 6800 transactions
10. 11957 Merit received by Symmetrick (#2627711) from 773 unique users in 6854 transactions
11. 11720 Merit received by pooya87 (#379147) from 627 unique users in 6854 transactions
12. 11660 Merit received by philipma1957 (#64507) from 598 unique users in 6704 transactions
13. 11408 Merit received by DdmrDdmr (#1582324) from 655 unique users in 6484 transactions
14. 11152 Merit received by nutildah (#317618) from 690 unique users in 6010 transactions
15. 10962 Merit received by xhomerx10 (#120694) from 332 unique users in 5579 transactions
16. 10889 Merit received by TryNinja (#557798) from 575 unique users in 4800 transactions
17. 10689 Merit received by gmaxwell (#11425) from 348 unique users in 3909 transactions
18. 10567 Merit received by NotATether (#2739424) from 563 unique users in 4863 transactions
19. 10408 Merit received by d5000 (#85033) from 472 unique users in 5613 transactions
20. 10406 Merit received by GazetaBitcoin (#1285797) from 409 unique users in 3635 transactions
21. 10249 Merit received by BlackHatCoiner (#2775483) from 482 unique users in 5143 transactions
22. 9485 Merit received by ABCbits (#359716) from 547 unique users in 5154 transactions
23. 9349 Merit received by Pmalek (#112493) from 598 unique users in 5527 transactions
24. 9327 Merit received by nc50lc (#1237156) from 422 unique users in 4829 transactions
25. 9019 Merit received by satoshi (#3) from 417 unique users in 950 transactions
26. 8971 Merit received by dkbit98 (#1410401) from 462 unique users in 5332 transactions
27. 8658 Merit received by Rikafip (#2658890) from 471 unique users in 4735 transactions
28. 8626 Merit received by suchmoon (#234771) from 576 unique users in 4893 transactions
29. 7924 Merit received by bitmover (#1554927) from 616 unique users in 4736 transactions
30. 7686 Merit received by AlcoHoDL (#998490) from 204 unique users in 4385 transactions
31. 7614 Merit received by 1miau (#2143453) from 496 unique users in 4138 transactions
32. 7412 Merit received by PowerGlove (#3486361) from 235 unique users in 1895 transactions
33. 7318 Merit received by cAPSLOCK (#35501) from 231 unique users in 4159 transactions
34. 7251 Merit received by mikeywith (#2033515) from 407 unique users in 3697 transactions
35. 7217 Merit received by hosemary (#995810) from 422 unique users in 3994 transactions
36. 7168 Merit received by joker_josue (#97582) from 365 unique users in 3430 transactions
37. 7135 Merit received by DaveF (#300014) from 390 unique users in 3657 transactions
38. 7005 Merit received by stompix (#164749) from 501 unique users in 3932 transactions
39. 6985 Merit received by Lucius (#533583) from 540 unique users in 4015 transactions
40. 6949 Merit received by Hhampuz (#881377) from 967 unique users in 4499 transactions
41. 6935 Merit received by Hueristic (#198573) from 210 unique users in 4020 transactions
42. 6886 Merit received by achow101 (#290195) from 283 unique users in 3083 transactions
43. 6811 Merit received by OmegaStarScream (#375981) from 446 unique users in 3724 transactions
44. 6610 Merit received by Charles-Tim (#2776678) from 445 unique users in 3866 transactions
45. 6411 Merit received by The Sceptical Chymist (#487418) from 632 unique users in 3614 transactions
46. 6298 Merit received by NeuroticFish (#257071) from 462 unique users in 3512 transactions
47. 6291 Merit received by jeremypwr (#137185) from 223 unique users in 3660 transactions
48. 6089 Merit received by n0nce (#3373858) from 196 unique users in 2651 transactions
49. 6087 Merit received by DireWolfM14 (#2003859) from 406 unique users in 2891 transactions
50. 6001 Merit received by vapourminer (#33156) from 285 unique users in 3860 transactions
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51970. 1 Merit received by 1ceStorm (#2342907) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51971. 1 Merit received by 1ce (#1019784) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51972. 1 Merit received by 1camtron (#1236351) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51973. 1 Merit received by 1apayment (#1855631) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51974. 1 Merit received by 1907KFY (#1935217) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51975. 1 Merit received by 16xypjnxlrew (#2705665) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51976. 1 Merit received by 16tonn (#3560052) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51977. 1 Merit received by 15horses1donkey (#560958) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51978. 1 Merit received by 15519028115Q (#3575647) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51979. 1 Merit received by 15262kk (#291561) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51980. 1 Merit received by 14z4rus (#3669471) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51981. 1 Merit received by 1453ist (#1431126) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51982. 1 Merit received by 1453eko (#1431103) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51983. 1 Merit received by 13Winter13 (#919666) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51984. 1 Merit received by 13ex07 (#1207068) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51985. 1 Merit received by 13dizel (#1208678) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51986. 1 Merit received by 1357924680 (#333305) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51987. 1 Merit received by 12tribes (#1221082) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51988. 1 Merit received by 12assa34 (#1729394) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51989. 1 Merit received by 123tm (#848549) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51990. 1 Merit received by 123pogi123 (#2252156) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51991. 1 Merit received by 123exo123 (#1919155) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51992. 1 Merit received by 112_blockchain (#2081987) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51993. 1 Merit received by 11:11pas (#1306783) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51994. 1 Merit received by 1083ivangod (#1952712) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51995. 1 Merit received by 101Crypta (#1287691) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51996. 1 Merit received by 100x (#80115) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51997. 1 Merit received by 100steeze (#3637720) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51998. 1 Merit received by 100%_Shared_FreeBitco.in (#2531436) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51999. 1 Merit received by 100monet (#323057) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52000. 1 Merit received by 1000x (#3509491) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52001. 1 Merit received by 1000usdforwife (#1547718) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52002. 1 Merit received by 1000alasan (#2458354) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52003. 1 Merit received by 0xMuted (#3713926) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52004. 1 Merit received by 0xBrian (#2625170) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52005. 1 Merit received by 0xb100d (#1342964) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52006. 1 Merit received by 0x77 (#3316521) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52007. 1 Merit received by 0x1Knowledge (#2000899) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52008. 1 Merit received by 0vx (#2805438) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52009. 1 Merit received by 0RajA0 (#1151527) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52010. 1 Merit received by 0nion (#3614135) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52011. 1 Merit received by 0bit (#493268) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52012. 1 Merit received by 063Myxa (#1432563) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52013. 1 Merit received by 05btc (#2050202) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52014. 1 Merit received by 00RedBlack00 (#2527578) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52015. 1 Merit received by 00hello (#2471124) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52016. 1 Merit received by $--Perfect. Exchange-$. (#1140007) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52017. 1 Merit received by $imple$imon (#2060672) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52018. 1 Merit received by $BitMakeR$ (#1166812) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
52019. 0 Merit received by gwsukabokepjepang (#2536607) from 2 unique users in 2 transactions

Full list (5 MB)

Total number of users who gave away 1 or more sMerit: 26837
Sample

Code:

1. 80272 Merit sent by El duderino_ (#1067333) to 917 unique users in 13342 transactions
2. 74609 Merit sent by fillippone (#1852120) to 2348 unique users in 33110 transactions
3. 71022 Merit sent by LoyceV (#459836) to 3374 unique users in 18459 transactions
4. 64403 Merit sent by JayJuanGee (#252510) to 3715 unique users in 62125 transactions
5. 61912 Merit sent by ABCbits (#359716) to 4828 unique users in 35437 transactions
6. 57198 Merit sent by vapourminer (#33156) to 3843 unique users in 39660 transactions
7. 46753 Merit sent by hugeblack (#1059082) to 2985 unique users in 16576 transactions
8. 41832 Merit sent by suchmoon (#234771) to 2888 unique users in 9167 transactions
9. 40978 Merit sent by xandry (#382413) to 2578 unique users in 14943 transactions
10. 38442 Merit sent by DdmrDdmr (#1582324) to 2966 unique users in 31103 transactions
11. 37276 Merit sent by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) to 1611 unique users in 14517 transactions
12. 35820 Merit sent by klarki (#407174) to 2292 unique users in 12067 transactions
13. 33553 Merit sent by The Sceptical Chymist (#487418) to 1515 unique users in 10589 transactions
14. 33333 Merit sent by Symmetrick (#2627711) to 2254 unique users in 16803 transactions
15. 30368 Merit sent by EFS (#140584) to 1475 unique users in 8031 transactions
16. 30304 Merit sent by Welsh (#84521) to 1759 unique users in 7019 transactions
17. 26646 Merit sent by o_e_l_e_o (#1188543) to 2510 unique users in 9360 transactions
18. 26572 Merit sent by qwk (#24140) to 606 unique users in 6527 transactions
19. 25901 Merit sent by 1miau (#2143453) to 1317 unique users in 11630 transactions
20. 24629 Merit sent by pooya87 (#379147) to 1433 unique users in 9855 transactions
21. 22424 Merit sent by dbshck (#153634) to 1314 unique users in 6442 transactions
22. 20574 Merit sent by NotATether (#2739424) to 1867 unique users in 4358 transactions
23. 17692 Merit sent by nutildah (#317618) to 1838 unique users in 7976 transactions
24. 17542 Merit sent by Pmalek (#112493) to 1229 unique users in 9744 transactions
25. 17337 Merit sent by Vispilio (#982288) to 762 unique users in 6494 transactions
26. 17236 Merit sent by Julien_Olynpic (#1166480) to 576 unique users in 8162 transactions
27. 16344 Merit sent by Halab (#1053119) to 2031 unique users in 6650 transactions
28. 15823 Merit sent by bitmover (#1554927) to 1366 unique users in 8825 transactions
29. 15421 Merit sent by Foxpup (#55384) to 649 unique users in 5525 transactions
30. 15099 Merit sent by philipma1957 (#64507) to 1711 unique users in 7872 transactions
31. 14659 Merit sent by theymos (#35) to 1119 unique users in 1818 transactions
32. 14585 Merit sent by OgNasty (#18321) to 3189 unique users in 7668 transactions
33. 14211 Merit sent by CryptopreneurBrainboss (#1052091) to 1398 unique users in 7807 transactions
34. 13965 Merit sent by dkbit98 (#1410401) to 1171 unique users in 8538 transactions
35. 13861 Merit sent by paxmao (#1192397) to 1308 unique users in 5974 transactions
36. 13778 Merit sent by krogothmanhattan (#1000199) to 668 unique users in 3663 transactions
37. 13758 Merit sent by NeuroticFish (#257071) to 842 unique users in 6436 transactions
38. 13691 Merit sent by BlackHatCoiner (#2775483) to 869 unique users in 4383 transactions
39. 12673 Merit sent by d5000 (#85033) to 1247 unique users in 6902 transactions
40. 12114 Merit sent by chimk (#1202061) to 757 unique users in 4369 transactions
41. 11104 Merit sent by mikeywith (#2033515) to 550 unique users in 4026 transactions
42. 9361 Merit sent by Hueristic (#198573) to 599 unique users in 7901 transactions
43. 9216 Merit sent by babo (#65636) to 538 unique users in 7227 transactions
44. 9036 Merit sent by Buchi-88 (#204821) to 771 unique users in 7688 transactions
45. 8969 Merit sent by Xal0lex (#1068464) to 697 unique users in 2713 transactions
46. 8828 Merit sent by Coolcryptovator (#1980983) to 1078 unique users in 3809 transactions
47. 8734 Merit sent by DarkStar_ (#507936) to 971 unique users in 2196 transactions
48. 8712 Merit sent by bones261 (#452769) to 1032 unique users in 4239 transactions
49. 8589 Merit sent by BobLawblaw (#569455) to 337 unique users in 3433 transactions
50. 8468 Merit sent by igehhh (#1045971) to 593 unique users in 3895 transactions
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26788. 1 Merit sent by 3btc (#69960) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26789. 1 Merit sent by 3acaga (#1232502) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26790. 1 Merit sent by 360llqzc (#1300924) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26791. 1 Merit sent by 333btc (#3450760) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26792. 1 Merit sent by 3227jw (#2592839) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26793. 1 Merit sent by 2x2coindwarf (#2686612) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26794. 1 Merit sent by 2x25BT (#990097) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26795. 1 Merit sent by 2drive (#1304704) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26796. 1 Merit sent by 2andahalfBTC (#1142164) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26797. 1 Merit sent by 27QVUTZj8rgZP1 (#662730) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26798. 1 Merit sent by 27aume (#1001865) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26799. 1 Merit sent by 2342q6tegw (#1212678) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26800. 1 Merit sent by 214missy (#1285563) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26801. 1 Merit sent by 212fox (#1342293) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26802. 1 Merit sent by 1xbitpatnar (#3475604) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26803. 1 Merit sent by 1r0n (#1252002) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26804. 1 Merit sent by 1pool Ltd. (#2062862) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26805. 1 Merit sent by 1melyun (#543052) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26806. 1 Merit sent by 1cyrax00 (#964210) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26807. 1 Merit sent by 1CryptoSmurf (#1352746) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26808. 1 Merit sent by 1chempion123 (#1346880) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26809. 1 Merit sent by 1cak (#1136856) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26810. 1 Merit sent by 1amCrypt0 (#933826) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26811. 1 Merit sent by 19Nov16 (#921267) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26812. 1 Merit sent by 19nataliya12 (#1873934) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26813. 1 Merit sent by 19dimasik77 (#881779) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26814. 1 Merit sent by 17buratin (#1187494) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26815. 1 Merit sent by 13ex07 (#1207068) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26816. 1 Merit sent by 13Charlie (#76987) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26817. 1 Merit sent by 12retepnat34 (#1053271) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26818. 1 Merit sent by 10yearsolder (#1094878) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26819. 1 Merit sent by 10sat (#1162504) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26820. 1 Merit sent by 10casproj (#3515598) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26821. 1 Merit sent by 10BTCaDay (#396522) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26822. 1 Merit sent by 100kk (#1316426) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26823. 1 Merit sent by 100eth (#1324600) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26824. 1 Merit sent by 0xBitcoins (#2205183) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26825. 1 Merit sent by 0xBet (#3572636) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26826. 1 Merit sent by 0x0333 (#1913654) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26827. 1 Merit sent by 0vn1 (#1216048) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26828. 1 Merit sent by 0virtual (#1244555) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26829. 1 Merit sent by 0id1d (#3600764) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26830. 1 Merit sent by 0Alvaren0 (#2020991) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26831. 1 Merit sent by 01BTC (#1756786) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26832. 1 Merit sent by 01bits (#1629161) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26833. 1 Merit sent by 00HasH (#841746) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26834. 1 Merit sent by 00DKM@ (#1311705) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26835. 1 Merit sent by 00.00WIB (#3392171) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26836. 1 Merit sent by $@to$h! (#1183184) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26837. 1 Merit sent by $Talker (#1043705) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions

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Merit per day of the week
Monday 352127 (14.41%)
Tuesday 349960 (14.32%)
Wednesday 350063 (14.33%)
Thursday 371926 (15.22%)
Friday 370592 (15.17%)
Saturday 322073 (13.18%)
Sunday 325471 (13.32%)
Total: 2442212

^* This file will be overwritten by newer versions

Quote from: Lontor on November 10, 2026, 08:03:06 AM

OP I believe you will be fine using a Trezor wallet.
All you need to do is write down the recovery seed in a place far away from the internet.

I still believe that using a hardware wallet is the best way to avoid losing your digital assets, right now I would choose Trezor wallet or Keystone wallet.

Bitmover I have 2 question too Grin

Do you think it's safe to write down recovery seed and the passphrase in the same location? Like if I found a steel or card like paper then write down the recovery seed at the front then turn the back and write down the passphrase.

Do you think this method is safe? Can recovery seed and passphrase be in same location?

There is one more.

What about Multisig? Let's say I create one for myself and just like the example I dropped at the start of my post, do you think it's safe practice to have all recovery seed written down in the same location?

On one same book or steel or other?

Logically you should be able to tell that writing down recovery seed and pass phrase on same location, like I mean on same metal plate is already defeating essence of having more than 2FA authentication, because if someone gets their hand on that plate, then the person will be able to access the wallet and the essence of having multi sig is defeated I guess.
The main reason for the passphrase was added security to the seed phrase now written everything on one place is basically exposing that wallet that how I see it.

Quote from: bitmover on November 13, 2026, 07:51:07 PM

No, I get the emails.

I cant login. I will send a pm whale

Edit: it worked now!

That's great. What changed in the meantime? Was it an issue on your end?

Quote from: bitmover on November 13, 2026, 09:24:19 PM

I was able to find it

it finally appeared and had a requirement of 1.3. Nice it worked!

Sadly, luck wasn't on your side this time. The Hawks lost in overtime against one of the worst teams in the league so far.
With freebets, the casino takes back the initial bonus amount. In your case, you wouldn't have won $25 + $8.50 if you had predicted correctly. That's why the possible win field only says $8.50. This is just a FYI in case you are not familiar with free bets and how they work.

Quote from: bitmover on November 10, 2026, 02:42:27 AM

Use an old laptop and remove the network card. Install electrum and sign transactions there. Just scan QR codes of signed transaction to broadcast the transactions in a phone/computer with internet access. Never insert a pendrive in this machine. Looks too much trouble for most people.

The remove network card or any network interface is the important part that newbie usually forget.

When repurposing a general computer for cold storage, we need to remove the wifi and bluetooth and complete install of new OS.

It's going to be a lot of work depends on whether the network interface are soldered to the board or not.

But disabling it just from the software side is still dangerous.

Quote from: fillippone on November 13, 2026, 06:49:33 PM

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These are favourable times to build intergenerational wealth.

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Vou ser sincero pessoal, estou meio desatualizado de pol�tica, de vez em quando assisto uns v�deos do ancapsu e um outro que n�o lembro, mas com tudo o que vem acontecendo, � muito desanimador e alarmante, estou correndo atr�s mais dos meus objetivos pessoais (principalmente estudo), acho que o pessoal est� focando nas presid�ncias da c�mara e do senado, parece que pro senado o candidato da direita � o Rog�rio Marinho que tem chances de ganhar.

Quote from: bitmover on November 01, 2026, 07:13:14 PM

Tivemos muitas mudan�as com o bolsonaro , sao governos com pol�ticas praticamente opostas em todos os sentidos. Por isso que tivemos um caos nos mercados com a eleicao dele.

Reforma da previd�ncia passou, redu��o de impostos, zerou o IOF no cartao de credito (e ja voltou pra 6% de novo), privatiza��o de muitas empresas (vendeu toda a distribui��o dos postos de gasolina da Petrobras, vendeu a eletrobras).

So pacote de "maldades". Superavit prim�rio.

Lula esta re-estatizando tudo, faliu os correios, aumentou impostos, est� aumentando cotas para minorias etc etc.
E lula so pacote de bondades. A base dele acha que se dinheiro acabar � so imprimir mais. Divida crescendo loucamente.

Ele pegou o ajuste que bolsonaro fez e esta fazendo a festa. Agora ele pegou a pr�pria heran�a maldita. Vamos ver o que vai acontecer

Eu dei quote nesse post pq foi agora que eu vi que eu te enviei 12 m�ritos, era pra ter sido s� 06, mas de alguma forma duplicou e nem vi, que loucura hahahha.

Quote from: dzonikg28 on Today at 03:58:34 PM

I was trying to get one with odds of 5.00 to see whether this "high profit bet" really appears at 6.00 and more.

Nicely done, 3 tickets in a row

Quote from: cryptofrka on Today at 06:11:16 PM

If it hits, I'll donate 2mBTC to the Cross League Goal Madness pool prize fund. Wish me luck

As much as I love for you to win, it doesnt seems to be going well for now especially on the Draw part.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 07:51:07 PM

But couldn't find the free bet..

It was supposed to be in usdt right?

It should appear here, there will be notifications there if its on your account. You need to claim it later on

This happened to me on my last free bets, Whale PMed me saying that the free bets have been sent to my account but I didnt receive it. It just show up 2 days later

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 03:57:10 PM

Guys, I am having problems to login to my whale account.

I have no password , I was log in using a one time code. But now everytime I use the received code the website says it already expired.

Any ideas to log in? I tried to reset password and got this email

Maybe emails from Whale casino are going into your spam folder, so check it out first.
I dont know if that is possible but you could also try using same email address and clicking that you forgot your passowrd.
Things are working fine with my Whale account, but I am using password for my login, because I dont like receiving emails every time I have to log in.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 03:57:10 PM

Guys, I am having problems to login to my whale account.

I have no password , I was log in using a one time code. But now everytime I use the received code the website says it already expired.

Any ideas to log in? I tried to reset password and got this email

Quote

Your account has no password
We received a request to reset the password for your account at www.whale.io, but this account signs in without a password.

Do those codes generally expiry after some time or are they supposed to be valid forever? Have you ever had to change or request another code for your account before?
Isn't the account tied to an email address even if it doesn't have a password? Are they emailing you a code that's expired when you try to enter it or are you using an old code you saved somewhere?

I would try to log in using an incognito window just to see if it works there.

Just like in the Philippines, Gambling industry is being used as a political tool to pressure lawmakers to prohibit it as it�s already affecting the citizen lives.

IIRC, @bitmover is from Brazil which is the most trusted user that I know and can give the right input on what truly happened there.

Please correct me if my summon with you here is a mistake but I�m a bit confident you share before your view about gambling topic regarding BR.

Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 12:41:36 AM

Quote from: bitmover on November 12, 2026, 06:59:29 PM

Will Jensen Huang be hired by Spacex?
That would be bullish!

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/11/12/elon-musk-jensen-huang-nvidia-tesla.html

Huang becomes Musk's bitch ha.

I LIKE IT.

I have to admit, that one really made me laugh.

Elon Musk never misses a beat; not long ago he even warned Bill Gates that he could afford to buy Microsoft just for the sake of sacking him from his role. Old Elon really is off his rocker.

Now he�s proposing to hire Jensen Huang at SpaceX, and I can tell you that, in my opinion, it might actually be a good move? Given the plans to expand SpaceX into space based data centres, you have to admit that a partnership between Musk and Huang would take things to a whole new level.

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Quote from: Homemade-IQ on November 10, 2026, 09:15:12 PM

Using money that is meant to put down your emergency funds to invest in bitcoin is nothing but over aggressive and unreasonable accumulation because an investor that does that is gambling with his holdings, because if he fails to put down an emergency funds and emergency situation comes up, his bitcoin investment may be sold off to take care of that emergency on ground, so it's an unhealthy idea to abandon stacking up your emergency funds, and be channeling that money into your bitcoin accumulation, that's a bad idea that will not end well once emergency situation comes.

It's not always the case. In situations where you have already accumulated enough emergency fund then it's not unreasonable to divert money meant for emergency into buying aggressively. What will be the essence of having more than enough emergency fund lying idle and then you still keep adding more to it when you can make a better use of it to increase your Bitcoin holding as fast as possible. It is unwise to hold excess fiat because of inflation, that's why there is limit to the amount of emergency fund you can hold so inflation doesn't reduce it's value.

If guys are managing their risks properly, then from the two categories of back up funds, reserve funds are flexible and emergency funds are not.

Seems back up fund and emergency are not serving the same purpose, right?
Why is one flexible and the other is not? Do I have to build the two aggressively when keeping the safety rules as an investor.
Sorry for jumping on this discussion!

There is no reason to make matters complicated. Back up funds is a general term to describe emergency funds and reserve funds.

You figure out how much you need based on your expectations of your finances (your income and expenses) and probably while you are building up your bitcoin holdings. The larger your bitcoin holdings, then the more it makes sense to continue to build up back up funds.

it does not make a whole hell of a lot of sense to build u a bunch of back up funds if you don't have any investments, such as bitcoin, that you are trying to protect.

Since you have been registered on the forum since August 2021, then you could have had built up a good size amount of bitcoin and back up funds by now, no? We can see that if you had been buying $100 of bitcoin per week since August 2021, you would have had invested about $27,700 and you would have had accumulated about 0.64 BTC, which to me seems like a pretty good place to be, and a pretty decent sized bitcoin stash for that level of budget.

Many times if guys are not sure about how much of their discretionary funds to allocate to each category, then it might be good to start out by allocating 1/3 of the discretionary funds to each of the categories of 1) invest 2) save (back up funds) and 3) discretionarily consume.

In the end, each of us are responsible to figure out our own balances and how aggressive that we are going to be in our bitcoin investment, and so after a few years we may well see quite a bit of progress and if we are able to stay investing in bitcoin for 10 years or more then hopefully we are able to realize quite a bit of progress, yet after the passage of 10 years we cannot turn back the clock in the event that we regret our level of aggressiveness.

I would imagine that the more that we invest in bitcoin, then the more incentivized we become to learn about bitcoin and to learn about cashflow management, including how to build and manage our back up funds. And, in the end, each person decides for himself how much to prioritize his time, energy and value in the direction of bitcoin, or not.

Quote from: Homemade-IQ on November 12, 2026, 07:24:11 PM

Quote from: sotelorene on November 12, 2026, 09:52:07 AM

With what I understood from your post I would say you are wrong because being aggressive is not the number of times someone purchased Bitcoin but rather it is the amount been used to purchased for instance now, Mr A has $1000 and Mr B has $1000 also but Mr A purchased $800 worth of Bitcoin at a time while Mr B purchased $150 twice which is a sum of $300 worth of Bitcoin. Clearly, you would tell that Mr A was more aggressive than Mr B so being aggressive is not about the number of time someone purchased rather it is the quantity or volume of purchased that will determined.

When talking about aggressive purchasing of Bitcoin, I personally think that it is the percentage of your discretionary income that is being used, not the amount or the number of times you bought in a week or month, because if you use like 60% if your discretionary income to buy and accumulate, you are being over aggressive, and it becomes even worse if you invest with more than 60% of your discretionary income because it is not sustainable, if you have not put your emergency funds in place before being over aggressive.

a guy has a choice to invest anywhere between 0% and 100% of his discretionary funds on bitcoin, and on the face of it, 65% does not sound overly aggressive to me.

However, whether 65% is overly aggressive or not may well depend on if he already has back up funds and also if he is making sure that he has enough for discretionary consumption.

if he is buying bitcoin every week, there could be some weeks that he uses 20% of his discretionary funds to buy bitcoin and other weeks that he uses 80%, and those could all be normal for one week at a time, yet if we measure up every week for a whole year, then 20% might be too whimpy and 80% might be too aggressive. Ultimately it is the guy's choice how aggressive or whimpy that he wants to be within his own level of discretionary funds, and if he makes a mistake by being too aggressive or too whimpy, then he ONLY has himself to blame for his own choices and priorities.

Practice does help guys to figure out their own balances, and maybe in the beginning they are uncomfortable, yet after several weeks, several months and/or several years, they likely figure out ways to tailor their balances and practices to cause themselves to become more comfortable with their ongoing implementation of a practice that might even become a habit.

Quote from: bitmover on November 12, 2026, 06:59:29 PM

Will Jensen Huang be hired by Spacex?
That would be bullish!

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/11/12/elon-musk-jensen-huang-nvidia-tesla.html

Huang becomes Musk's bitch ha.

I LIKE IT.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 06:59:29 PM

Will Jensen Huang be hired by Spacex?
That would be bullish!

A man who has just been caught up in a saga with a Chinese "spy" according to the U.S. intelligence and has just resigned from a US-based company where he has been serving as a CEO, being hired by another US-based company that is probably even more security sensitive right after?
Good luck, Elon. Grin

I believe he was just joking, though.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 05:33:44 PM

A splash.tf foi hackeada.

� uma exchange pequena, kyc-free que usa a pr�pria liquidez. Ou seja chance zero de kyc.

Quote from: splashed on November 09, 2026, 07:22:04 PM

We have been attacked, and our wallets emptied. A full post of how this happened will be published later.

For the attacker if you are seeing this. Please return our funds, and you can keep a 10% bounty, otherwise we will be contacting law enforcement.

Esta situa��o foi mesmo complicada. Ser� que eles v�o conseguir recuperar?

Eu vi isso no t�pico oficial, nem disse nada, porque nem sei o que dizer. Tive pena deles.

Quote from: 5tift on Today at 10:02:27 AM

[...]
Ich habe mir gestern noch das address balances Script von bitmover installiert.
Nun wird per Mouseover direkt den Bestand und Link zu Mempool angezeigt.
[...]

Sehr sehr cooles Addon,
ich war so frei und habe mir das Script von bitmover ein wenig modifiziert und habe Ethereum integrieren "lassen", nun wird neben einer Bitcoin-Walletadresse auch eine Ethereum-Walletadresse erkannt und sogar die ENS-Domain (hier bei mir z.b. jahead.eth) der Wallet benannt, auch der Wallet-type wirderkannt, also ob SmartContract-Wallet usw. usf.:

Congratulations Bitmover and thanks for creating this great script, I love it and would want to use it, but in the past I had issues downloading tempermonkey and running scripts.

I have done it twice but was unable to get it running, maybe I would love to give it the last and final trial. I have visited the bitcoindata website for detailed explanation on how to handle this, but if there's a simply way to make this run on my windows (chrome browser), I will be happy to follow.

Quote from: alegotardo on Today at 01:26:14 AM

...

Com certeza eu estou levando em considera��o a seguran�a do protocolo, sem d�vida alguma, mais do que as taxas
Agora sobre a AAVE, eles votaram para incluir o BTC nativo, por�m ainda n�o est� vigente, pode demorar um pouco, mas seria �timo e acho que vai ser muito bom
� ruim ter que ficar usando o BTC wrapped quando voc� tem BTC na rede principal

Quote from: joker_josue on Today at 08:03:18 AM

Nunca usei, nem explorei/investiguei essa op��o. Mas, gostava de adicionar uma quest�o:

O BTC enviado como colateral, � devolvido gradualmente, a medida que o empr�stimo � pago, ou todo no final do pagamento do mesmo?
...

joker, geralmente no DeFi voc� deposita por exemplo 1 BTC, e o LTV digamos que seja 80%, ent�o voc� pode pegar emprestado 80% do valor de 1 BTC
A partir da� voc� faz o que quiser, pode pagar aos poucos, pode dar mais BTC de colateral, pode retirar o colateral se n�o atingir o LTV...

Por isso ficou popular, voc� deposita uma cripto que n�o quer vender, e tem muita liberdade para usar um empr�stimo, pagar como quiser, sempre respeitando o LTV para n�o ser liquidado
LTV significa o Empr�stimo sobre o Valor da Garantia

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 11:47:15 AM

Vale a pena mesmo se endividar? Muito improvavel uma oportunidade ser t�o boa para valer o pagamento de juros.

Pessoalmente, acho que vale mais a pena vender o BTC e "aproveitar a oportunidade" do que fazer tudo isso.

O BTC � uma oportunidade melhor? Ent�o fica no BTC. Correr atr�s de todas as oportunidades ao mesmo tempo, mais do que as suas capacidades financeiras do momento, pode ser ruim.

Nesse caso meu acho que est� valendo
E tamb�m n�o � um valor absurdo, � um valor razo�vel

Eu n�o gostaria de vender BTC a 72k hehe

Estou com BTC parado , e ao inv�s de pagar 3% ao m�s para o banco eu iria pagar 5% ao ano com um empr�stimo em USDC por exemplo
Ia pagar em uns 3 a 4 meses tamb�m, coisa r�pida

Hatten wir hier nicht auch irgendwo eine �bersicht �ber n�tzliche Erweiterung f�r Bitcointalk?
Ich habe mir gestern noch das address balances Script von bitmover installiert.
Nun wird per Mouseover direkt den Bestand und Link zu Mempool angezeigt.

i somehow missed this script, so thanks a lot for bumping this thread!
i�ll definitely install it today as another btct extension and give it a try.
@bitmover at the same time, i have another suggestion: there are posts here in the forum where only a tx-id is published... would it be possible to retrieve the same information using that tx-id as you would by clicking on the BTC address?

Quote from: Z_MBFM on Today at 08:11:07 AM

Actually i am using Kiwi Browser for long time. For a few months now, the script in Kiwi has been having problems and not working properly. I checked your script yesterday in the Firefox browser.

Anyway, I installed the script on my other regular browser, Mises. It works fine. When I scroll through the forum, when I come across a wallet, I click on it to see how many bitcoins are in that wallet. I am very curious to do this. Lol Cheesy

You can also include Mises Browser

Odd choices of picking browsers.
I think most people use Chrome, Firefox, and Tor.
I have never heard of the Mises browser. I heard about Kiwi Browser, but never used it. I am curious why you picked those unpopular browsers over the most well-known browsers. Do they provide something extra that usual browsers don't? This might be off-topic here, so it would be great if you could post about it on our local thread.

Anyway, Nice tool bitmover. It is good that you made it available for most browsers.

Quote from: bitmover on November 11, 2026, 09:55:41 AM

Quote from: Z_MBFM on November 11, 2026, 07:29:45 AM

And script not working on kiwi browser is it bug on browser or script i am little confused. I use kiwi browser regularly. So, working in this browser was a useful for me. I have seen several scripts that do not work in Kiwi browser. Can you provide the extension file? It works if upload the file directly. i mean chrome extension file not script.

Please try to install from Edge store:
https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/detail/bitcointalk-data-extensio/gcndngnnhncdblgfcbgefmhginmmjfde

If it works, I will add kiwi logo to it as well. I think it it will work, as Kiwi can install extension from edge store.

Actually i am using Kiwi Browser for long time. For a few months now, the script in Kiwi has been having problems and not working properly. I checked your script yesterday in the Firefox browser.

Anyway, I installed the script on my other regular browser, Mises. It works fine. When I scroll through the forum, when I come across a wallet, I click on it to see how many bitcoins are in that wallet. I am very curious to do this. Lol Cheesy

Quote from: bitmover on February 22, 2024, 02:53:26 AM

Any browser, Userscript.
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/604804-bitcoindata-extension

You can also include Mises Browser

Quote from: bitmover on November 10, 2026, 10:23:05 AM

Quote from: Lontor on November 10, 2026, 08:03:06 AM

Do you think it's safe to write down recovery seed and the passphrase in the same location? Like if I found a steel or card like paper then write down the recovery seed at the front then turn the back and write down the passphrase.

Do you think this method is safe? Can recovery seed and passphrase be in same location?

I see no problem with that. Also , keep a bakcup of both in another location.
Passphrase is important to add randomness , in a situation like the coldcard incident

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What about Multisig? Let's say I create one for myself and just like the example I dropped at the start of my post, do you think it's safe practice to have all recovery seed written down in the same location?

On one same book or steel or other?

No not in this case. Multisig is important when 2 parties need to confirm the transaction, like you and your wife or you and your partner.

Too much trouble to create a multisig to one person control all keys

What if the person don't have a wife or partner? Is it better to then avoid Multisig? I was thinking that it's something I can do on my own but I get your point here, the only option left for someone who is all alone by themselves is going use recovery seed + Passphrase I guess.

Thanks for the response.

Quote from: bitmover on November 11, 2026, 11:54:35 PM

Eles vao ter que gastar recursos para quebrar a chave privada, e ninguem far� isso para roubar poucos satoshis de pobres de forum como n�s Cheesy

No final, � seguir as instru��es de utiliza��o que o proprio criador do Bitcoin deu: n�o reutilizar um endere�o.

Quote from: satoshi on November 25, 2009, 06:17:23 PM

For greater privacy, it's best to use bitcoin addresses only once. You can change addresses as often as you want

Isto claro se n�o se usar endere�os Taproot que exp�em logo a chave publica.

Por isso, quem tem endere�os Taproot � migrar para endere�os SegWit nativos ou Legacy. Depois, quando usar esses BTC, tentar esvaziar ao m�ximo esse endere�o.

Para ajudar, � manter o endere�o de troco sempre ativo.

Quote from: NeuroticFish on November 11, 2026, 07:18:29 PM

Quote from: bitmover on November 11, 2026, 12:38:00 PM

Achei esse tutorial do pra windows do @NeuroticFish
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367296

Com o Fulcrum � muito mais f�cil no Windows. Sem WSL, sem Electrs.
� isso que estou usando agora, desde 2024.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441463

PS. Sorry if the translation is not best; I was triggered because you wrote my name and I thought I ca suggest something much easier to work with.

Obrigado! Por acaso nunca tinha pensado nessa op��o, nem investigado!

Irei olhar para o seu tutorial e talvez tentar!

Thank you! I'll try that option, I'd never thought of it before!

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 01:37:42 AM

Surely, many of us (especially newbies to bitcoin) may well consider having cash to be valuable - especially since we can easily buy things with cash - however, at the same time, cash is deceptive because it does not hold its value. Cash depreciates in value. ongoingly it depreciates in a silent way, even though nominally people aren frequently pricing goods and services without sufficiently accounting for the ongoing debasement of the dollar.

So we might wrongly believe that we are building value by building up a lot of cash, yet once we start to get above more than 3 months of our expenses in cash, then it becomes likely that the cash is losing value as fast as we are adding to it, so even if the cash seems to be growing in nominal value, because we keep adding to it, its purchasing power is not holding value.

In the short-to-medium term bitcoin may well be fluctuating in value a lot and we may well be having a lot of difficulties measuring the extent to which bitcoin is going up in value, yet if we zoom out, including if we look at the 200-WMA, we will see that bitcoin is ongoingly going up in value at least 18% per year (in terms of the 200-WMA), and surely there are some years that the 200-WMA goes up more than 18% in any given year. You can look at my table on the JJG fuck you status website to see 6 month snapshots of bitcoin's 200-WMA ongoing appreciation.

Of course, it is expected that in the future bitcoin's price appreciation (and also 200-WMA) will become less and less steep, yet there is still no reason to consider bitcoin as being amongst of investments for everyone and anyone..,. In the projected 200-WMA gain for this next 6 months until December 1, I had put that I had expected it to be 15%; however, my back of the envelop calculations show that this most recent 6 months is probably only going to be about a 11.4% appreciation (which is 22.8% annualized). Not bad, but still not as high as expected and not as high as some of the historical appreciation numbers.

I can attest that some people are still fooling themselves by seeing cash as a store of value. Cash is just like a dispensing machine for pur daily emergencies, which no one can argue about that, and some newbies need to understand the point that it only designed to be moving not meant for storage, because the Government can decide to be printing it anytime they likes, the problem is, how can you secure your future by holding something that loses it value anytime, what exactly i want some folks should understand is that, the fact that the cash can solve your bills, then uses some cash to purchase a valuable assets, bitcoin particularly. You don't just stays in one angle forever, male use of the common sense and do the needful.

Cash is useful and we shouldn't just discard it just because it looses value over time. As long as people generally uses it then it has usefulness. But since it looses value over time, we must then preserve our money. How then should we do that. Investing in entities that protect your wealth is very good. Those entities are usually volatile. But then cash has it's own purpose and it is liquidity. You can use it to achieve things within or outside your country. Clothes, shoes, bills etc. Those entities i was talking about, example of one of them Bitcoin. Gold is another one. We also have bonds, stocks, lands and each and everyone carries some certain degree of risk. So these entities are used to preserve your wealth for a very long time. More specifically, your purchasing power. Just that it can't be used to purchase needs that you need quickly. That is were currency steps in. Identify what to use as a quick purchase and what to use as a store of value is very important in todays world.

Quote from: B-BossMan on Today at 04:55:21 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 01:37:42 AM

Surely, many of us (especially newbies to bitcoin) may well consider having cash to be valuable - especially since we can easily buy things with cash - however, at the same time, cash is deceptive because it does not hold its value. Cash depreciates in value. ongoingly it depreciates in a silent way, even though nominally people aren frequently pricing goods and services without sufficiently accounting for the ongoing debasement of the dollar.

So we might wrongly believe that we are building value by building up a lot of cash, yet once we start to get above more than 3 months of our expenses in cash, then it becomes likely that the cash is losing value as fast as we are adding to it, so even if the cash seems to be growing in nominal value, because we keep adding to it, its purchasing power is not holding value.

In the short-to-medium term bitcoin may well be fluctuating in value a lot and we may well be having a lot of difficulties measuring the extent to which bitcoin is going up in value, yet if we zoom out, including if we look at the 200-WMA, we will see that bitcoin is ongoingly going up in value at least 18% per year (in terms of the 200-WMA), and surely there are some years that the 200-WMA goes up more than 18% in any given year. You can look at my table on the JJG fuck you status website to see 6 month snapshots of bitcoin's 200-WMA ongoing appreciation.

Of course, it is expected that in the future bitcoin's price appreciation (and also 200-WMA) will become less and less steep, yet there is still no reason to consider bitcoin as being amongst of investments for everyone and anyone..,. In the projected 200-WMA gain for this next 6 months until December 1, I had put that I had expected it to be 15%; however, my back of the envelop calculations show that this most recent 6 months is probably only going to be about a 11.4% appreciation (which is 22.8% annualized). Not bad, but still not as high as expected and not as high as some of the historical appreciation numbers.

I can attest that some people are still fooling themselves by seeing cash as a store of value. Cash is just like a dispensing machine for pur daily emergencies, which no one can argue about that, and some newbies need to understand the point that it only designed to be moving not meant for storage, because the Government can decide to be printing it anytime they likes, the problem is, how can you secure your future by holding something that loses it value anytime, what exactly i want some folks should understand is that, the fact that the cash can solve your bills, then uses some cash to purchase a valuable assets, bitcoin particularly. You don't just stays in one angle forever, male use of the common sense and do the needful.

You can't force anyone to get into Bitcoin investment, it is by will and personal choices, so anyone can do whatever they like with there income. Perhaps, some might also go into Gold or real estate or other investments, it is there choice.

However, Bitcoin still remains the best, more especially, for the fact that it's a store of value unlike we other investments. Investing in Bitcoin for a long time period will will not only save us from our money losing value due to inflati, but also, when the market moves upwards, we will get to see our assets add value over time and make us more financially rich. Bitcoin still remains the best, but sure, anyone can still do whatever they like after all.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 01:37:42 AM

Surely, many of us (especially newbies to bitcoin) may well consider having cash to be valuable - especially since we can easily buy things with cash - however, at the same time, cash is deceptive because it does not hold its value. Cash depreciates in value. ongoingly it depreciates in a silent way, even though nominally people aren frequently pricing goods and services without sufficiently accounting for the ongoing debasement of the dollar.

So we might wrongly believe that we are building value by building up a lot of cash, yet once we start to get above more than 3 months of our expenses in cash, then it becomes likely that the cash is losing value as fast as we are adding to it, so even if the cash seems to be growing in nominal value, because we keep adding to it, its purchasing power is not holding value.

In the short-to-medium term bitcoin may well be fluctuating in value a lot and we may well be having a lot of difficulties measuring the extent to which bitcoin is going up in value, yet if we zoom out, including if we look at the 200-WMA, we will see that bitcoin is ongoingly going up in value at least 18% per year (in terms of the 200-WMA), and surely there are some years that the 200-WMA goes up more than 18% in any given year. You can look at my table on the JJG fuck you status website to see 6 month snapshots of bitcoin's 200-WMA ongoing appreciation.

Of course, it is expected that in the future bitcoin's price appreciation (and also 200-WMA) will become less and less steep, yet there is still no reason to consider bitcoin as being amongst of investments for everyone and anyone..,. In the projected 200-WMA gain for this next 6 months until December 1, I had put that I had expected it to be 15%; however, my back of the envelop calculations show that this most recent 6 months is probably only going to be about a 11.4% appreciation (which is 22.8% annualized). Not bad, but still not as high as expected and not as high as some of the historical appreciation numbers.

I can attest that some people are still fooling themselves by seeing cash as a store of value. Cash is just like a dispensing machine for pur daily emergencies, which no one can argue about that, and some newbies need to understand the point that it only designed to be moving not meant for storage, because the Government can decide to be printing it anytime they likes, the problem is, how can you secure your future by holding something that loses it value anytime, what exactly i want some folks should understand is that, the fact that the cash can solve your bills, then uses some cash to purchase a valuable assets, bitcoin particularly. You don't just stays in one angle forever, male use of the common sense and do the needful.

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Quote from: drangos on November 11, 2026, 10:19:23 AM

It is therefore as important to have an emergency fund and to not invest.

Why will you have an emergency funds without getting to invest In bitcoin, what is then the reason for keeping the emergency funds to protect your bitcoin investment from getting sold when in emergency situations. Emergency funds is important even in real life, but in the context of bitcoin investment, you�ll need to have a bitcoin portfolio which can be protected by the emergency funds you�re building so you don�t have to neglect investing in bitcoin because of emergency funds.

I wonder where he got that notion from that he would rather have an emergency funds than investing, because in the context of Bitcoin investment, having them both is very important, because the survival of your Bitcoin holdings depends on your emergency funds, unless you are a rich fellow that have the leverage of investing without it, since their are friends, aunties, uncle or asset that can bail you out during emergencies, but the truth is that it make no sense to be putting down an emergency funds when you don't even have a bitcoin stash, or you are just planning for the worst to happen to you, with no investment in sight?

Surely, many of us (especially newbies to bitcoin) may well consider having cash to be valuable - especially since we can easily buy things with cash - however, at the same time, cash is deceptive because it does not hold its value. Cash depreciates in value. ongoingly it depreciates in a silent way, even though nominally people aren frequently pricing goods and services without sufficiently accounting for the ongoing debasement of the dollar.

So we might wrongly believe that we are building value by building up a lot of cash, yet once we start to get above more than 3 months of our expenses in cash, then it becomes likely that the cash is losing value as fast as we are adding to it, so even if the cash seems to be growing in nominal value, because we keep adding to it, its purchasing power is not holding value.

In the short-to-medium term bitcoin may well be fluctuating in value a lot and we may well be having a lot of difficulties measuring the extent to which bitcoin is going up in value, yet if we zoom out, including if we look at the 200-WMA, we will see that bitcoin is ongoingly going up in value at least 18% per year (in terms of the 200-WMA), and surely there are some years that the 200-WMA goes up more than 18% in any given year. You can look at my table on the JJG fuck you status website to see 6 month snapshots of bitcoin's 200-WMA ongoing appreciation.

Of course, it is expected that in the future bitcoin's price appreciation (and also 200-WMA) will become less and less steep, yet there is still no reason to consider bitcoin as being amongst of investments for everyone and anyone..,. In the projected 200-WMA gain for this next 6 months until December 1, I had put that I had expected it to be 15%; however, my back of the envelop calculations show that this most recent 6 months is probably only going to be about a 11.4% appreciation (which is 22.8% annualized). Not bad, but still not as high as expected and not as high as some of the historical appreciation numbers.

When governments want transparency they are not interested in whether it is fiat or crypto, they just want to know if the funds are being used for nefarious purposes (and that entails them keeping a history of what citizens are doing). With that in mind, the lines of losing privacy are crossed and that is unacceptable to the masses.

The governments already have access to virtually every transaction as far as the fiat banking system is concerned and they want to replicate that formula to crypto transactions via regulated exchanges. I am not advocating that their stance is correct, I am stating that they want more regulation and many people disagree with going even further with regulation.

Quote from: bitmover on November 08, 2026, 12:05:53 PM

Exactly.

Telling other people what they should or shouldn't do with their own money goes against the ethos of Bitcoin. That's precisely what Satoshi's creation and bitcoin is about.

That is what banks do to us: "for your safety you can't send your money to this person".

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 09:08:12 PM

I think it is quite a shame that coinomi is not open source.

But coinomi doesn't have low entropy. This is just false.
Coinomi is live since 2013 and receiving updates. If they had low entropy wallets would had been drained already

Actually the link OP posted talks about a bug not in randomness or entropy , but in the seed words verification in a discontinued desktop version (which wasn't their main product, it was always mobile)

as far as I know just 1 user lost funds and it might not be the wallet fault (someone who put life savings in a hot wallet certainly doesnt understand crypto well)

Being open source is no guarantee of good software. For example, this wallet is open source but they steal user funds (Charging an extra fee for developers in every transaction without informing it)

Well, ever since I learned about BIP-85 and have an all-in-one backup through a master seed, I have never created seed phrases in software wallets again, whatever they may be. As for Coinomi, it's a good multi-coin wallet, but because it's closed source, I carry only small amounts of what I think I need or only when I want to use a specific coin. Currently, I'm using Coinomi only to check BTC balances and quotes quickly.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 12:38:00 PM

Achei esse tutorial do pra windows do @NeuroticFish
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367296

Com o Fulcrum � muito mais f�cil no Windows. Sem WSL, sem Electrs.
� isso que estou usando agora, desde 2024.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441463

PS. Sorry if the translation is not best; I was triggered because you wrote my name and I thought I ca suggest something much easier to work with.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 01:36:47 PM

� o WSL (Windows subsystem Linux )
Voce instala com poucos clicks.Eu acho muito bom e facil de usar, foi como comecei a usar o Ubuntu

Eu sei.
Mas, j� analisei e fiz alguns passos, e deu para perceber que essa � a parte mais simples. Depois ser� algumas horas para tentar por tudo a funcionar.

Ent�o, preciso de tirar tempo, para analisar tudo e configurar tudo direito.

No final, o que eu digo, � que n�o � um processo simples, envolve v�rios passos. No tutorial tudo parece simples e pratico, mas depois existe sempre coisas extras que a pessoa tem de fazer para cada setup.

A IA ajuda, mesmo assim, n�o � para qualquer tipo de utilizador.

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Preencha seu perfil de risco

Prezado(a) usu�rio(a),

Para atender �s exig�ncias do Banco Central do Brasil, pedimos que preencha seu perfil de risco.

S�o apenas 4 perguntas r�pidas, que levam cerca de 1 minuto para serem respondidas. Isso nos ajuda a entender melhor sua experi�ncia com ativos virtuais.

Por favor, conclua o preenchimento em at� 30 dias.

Recebi esse e-mail da Binance agora e pelo tom, s�o mais confirma��es para fazer.

Quote from: joker_josue on November 10, 2026, 08:04:17 AM

Nota que at� a Coinbase, j� procura seguir as regras de cada pa�s em que opera. Se n�o opera em algum pa�s, s� funciona a parte cripto-cripto para esses clientes.

Tamb�m j� recebi uma solicita��o deles para atualiza��o de cadastro. Por enquanto n�o me preocupei em fazer, pois n�o utilizo.

Quote from: bitmover on November 07, 2026, 11:01:12 AM

Usa uma brasileira.

Al�m da FoxBit e do MB, tem alguma outra? Antes tinha a NovaDax, mas infelizmente n�o aguentou a press�o...

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 01:41:38 AM

Data is fetched from mempool.space.

TO DO:
Add signed message verification.

It works nicely, I just discovered the script and tried it out. The amount, fee, fee rate and input/outputs are displayed in a popup when hovering over a tx link, no need to open another tab. One minor note: The date on the Fee rate column was confusing, as I wasn�t sure whether it was the transaction date or when the fee rate was retrieved. It would be great if there was an option to use your own mempool instance, not just for privacy reasons, but also for other reasons. I am also fascinated by the verification of signed messages, looking forward to it! Wink

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 12:38:00 PM

Achei esse tutorial do pra windows do @NeuroticFish
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367296

Sim. � poss�vel em Windows, mas acredita que n�o � assim t�o simples.

No final o que est� a fazer � montar uma m�quina virtual em Linux, que depois � feita a configura��o para o full node e Electrum.

� um pouco complicado e n�o � muito eficiente, porque envolve v�rias camadas.

Quote from: bitmover on November 10, 2026, 11:38:47 AM

Terrorists and authorities from sanctioned countries used an exchange illegally.
Solution: blacklist everyone who uses such exchange.

Wtf!

Regulations should also protect users who are doing nothing wrong

Sounds like they don't actually have a solution on what to do and want to force every service to follow guidelines that only serve their own best interests (forget about the interests of the American people or of the actual services themselves).

It is quite sad to witness.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 01:41:38 AM

You can see inputs/outputs of the transction, fee rates, confirmations.
Number of transactions from address, balance and more.

inputs/outputs data not showing on personal wallet. better to include this also. not necessary but infective

And script not working on kiwi browser is it bug on browser or script i am little confused. I use kiwi browser regularly. So, working in this browser was a useful for me. I have seen several scripts that do not work in Kiwi browser. Can you provide the extension file? It works if upload the file directly. i mean chrome extension file not script.

Friends, the match ended with the score 1:3 in favour of Liverpool. The first goal was scored in the 40th minute of the match. The winners of this contest are TryNinja and bitmover.

Congratulations to the winners 🎉

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Quote from: bitmover on November 10, 2026, 11:38:47 AM

Terrorists and authorities from sanctioned countries used an exchange illegally.
Solution: blacklist everyone who uses such exchange.

Wtf!

Regulations should also protect users who are doing nothing wrong

To be fair these offshore exchange internal management and AML compliance are so opaque the money from users getting pooled and nobody know which money belongs to whom. An exchange sanction and blocking any funds coming out of it probably the most effective but I agree, there should be better way.

It's still unbelievable though to think that major exchanges don't even wait for the 30 days before blocking any deposit but outright doing it right after the announcements. There must be a lot of people stuck with their funds on MEXC.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 05:18:17 PM

Better to be safe than sorry. So many different services getting hacked, and a loss of funds caused by a hack can easily become the end of a smalls service such as l0tt0.com

I agree with you, but it is better to learn a lesson now, and dont make another date announcements in future.
It is better not to set any strict dates, that can prevent lot of confusion and customers complaining.
I trust dewez because I worked with him on some projects, and I know he is going to deliver.

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Quote from: El duderino_ on November 09, 2026, 08:04:16 AM

BTC choosing the wrong side again

My portfolio is quiet
My dreams are still ATH
Patience costs nothing
Just HODLING

You have been here since August 2023 and you have already accumulated enough bitcoin?

Or maybe you started accumulating bitcoin prior to your forum registration date?

I am new to the forum but I have known about Bitcoin for many years before I joined the forum. And since then I have collected Bitcoin but at that time I sold almost 2 Bitcoins which was my biggest mistake. But when Bitcoin price hit ATH at $68k at the end of 2021 I regretted it a lot because I sold my 2 Bitcoins for only $8k per bitcoin. But now I have not sold Bitcoin and have been accumulating it for about 4-5 years as per my ability.

However, 3 years is enough time to accumulate a good amount of Bitcoin if the investment is continued regularly.

Sure. You can do what you like, yet I have a hard time considering too many scenarios in which the past 3 years would have had been enough time to really accumulate any kind of a meaningful bitcoin portfolio size or more than enough bitcoin, even if guys might have had tried to front load their bitcoin holdings and gotten a lot of their coins around $30 and even if they might have had been able to put 1-2 years of their income into bitcoin.. .but hey, you do you. You seem to be thinking about bitcoin as a trade rather than a lifetime investment, and yeah, guys can do what they like and think about bitcoin as they like.

Much of my consideration of price-based sustainable withdrawal and/or time-based sustainable withdrawal relate to guys reaching some form of overaccumulation status, which is disinclined from selling large portions of bitcoin at any point in time, whether there are perceptions of BTC price peaks or otherwise.

From my perspective, there could be situations in which a less than 10-year investment timeline make sense, such as for guys with age and/or health circumstances that do not allow them to invest 10 years or longer, and so from my perspective if you don't have age/health concerns and you are considering getting in and out of bitcoin in shorter timelines, then you likely under-appreciate bitcoin and think about bitcoin in trading rather than investing terms.

So yeah, you are likely to get push back from me if you are arguing what seems from my perspective to be bitcoin trading rather than investing ideas and/or practices.

By the way, I can even give a rudimentary example to suggest that even a guy with a $52k income who might have had been able to frontload his bitcoin investment in the first 6 months between March 2023 and August 2023 with half of his annual income ($1k per week and $26k invested over his first 6 months), which would have had gotten him abut 0.94 BTC in the first 6 months.

And, then if he had been able to invest another whole year of his income over the next year by investing $310 per week from September 2023 until now, he would have had invested $52k and accumulated a total of 0.783 BTC.

Then if we take this hypothetical guy and we add up his totals, we would see that he had invested right around $78k, and he would have accumulated 1.723 bitcoin (which would currently have a $130 spot price and/or a $117k 200-WMA value), which surely would be a good bitcoin accumulation position for such a short period of time of accumulating bitcoin, yet right now, 1.723 BTC would ONLY allow such hypothetical guy to sustainably cash out about $875 per month, which would ONLY be about $10,500 per year, which is merely 1/5 of his current income, and I hardly consider that level of bitcoin accumulation (or sustainable income) to be enough or even close to enough bitcoin for anyone considering bitcoin to be an investment rather than a trade...

In other words, it does not seem to be a good idea to be treating bitcoin as a trade rather than an investment, yet surely there are guys who seem to believe that short periods of bitcoin accumulation can result in meaningful bitcoin stash sizes that allow them to meaningfully benefit from bitcoin's level of greatness as an investment that is available to everyone and anyone, as long as they have discretionary funds.

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Quote from: Meretrix on Today at 10:05:13 AM

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But doesnt size matter buddy and btc have shrunken quite a bit. I would think that would not be as satisfiying to you.

Bitcoin has shrunken? Oh?

Bitcoin seems to be slightly higher than its August 18-20 pumpening.. so in that regard, we might observe some variance of flat (aka consolidating or aka noise).

Quote from: Biodom on Today at 08:30:10 PM

...... and bitcoin did almost nothing on a balance since the 2021 peak, a meeker ATH in 2025 notwithstanding.

It has been so boring in bitcoinlandia since 2021. I have been sleeping my ass off.

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Quote from: bitmover on Today at 11:38:47 AM

Terrorists and authorities from sanctioned countries used an exchange illegally.
Solution: blacklist everyone who uses such exchange.

Wtf!

Regulations should also protect users who are doing nothing wrong

This is what beats my understanding with all these sorts of sanctions initiated by the US and its entities. Terrorism can also be subjective. Without going so deep into politics, the Zionists can also be considered terrorists by the Palestinians and most of the Arabs in the neighboring countries. Shouldn't exchanges used by them be sanctions too?
I mean, they are pretty much abusing human rights day in, day out. They are killing innocent people and kids, etc.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 02:42:27 AM

Buy a trezor from their official website.

This important and it applies to all other hardware products. It's hard to trust a reseller these days after the Ledger reseller tampered the chips of their product.

While there's still another risk for this but I think it's an isolated case, and that's about the courier/logistics where they can replace the product on their warehouse upon shipment.

Although I don't think that there's a lot of those cases and it's still safer to order directly to the official manufacturer website of trezor or any other hardware wallets.

Quote from: Lontor on Today at 08:03:06 AM

Do you think it's safe to write down recovery seed and the passphrase in the same location? Like if I found a steel or card like paper then write down the recovery seed at the front then turn the back and write down the passphrase.

Do you think this method is safe? Can recovery seed and passphrase be in same location?

My opinion on this is it will only be safe if you're the only one where you'll place it.

Otherwise, if someone finds it where you're hiding it and then have an idea of what it is you know what's coming next.

This is the same as putting the 2FA on the same phone where the wallet is installed.

Bitmover I have 2 question too Grin

Do you think it's safe to write down recovery seed and the passphrase in the same location? Like if I found a steel or card like paper then write down the recovery seed at the front then turn the back and write down the passphrase.

Do you think this method is safe? Can recovery seed and passphrase be in same location?

There is one more.

What about Multisig? Let's say I create one for myself and just like the example I dropped at the start of my post, do you think it's safe practice to have all recovery seed written down in the same location?

On one same book or steel or other?

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 01:09:35 AM

Eu tambem uso ele.

Os servidores da electrum nao permitem por padr�o o broadcast de transa��es com menos de 1 sat /vB.
Mas se conectar em servidores que permitem, a electrum faz o broadcast numa boa

At� pouco tempo atr�s, at� 2024, eu tinha o meu pr�prio servidor electrum que se conectava ao meu full node, constru� seguindo esse tutorial de internet.

Mas depois de um tempo, parou de funcionar nas minhas mobile wallets conectadas, e consequentemente, no electrum tamb�m, mesmo atualizando, reinstalando, n�o descobri a causa.

A luta pela privacidade � uma luta constante.

Quote from: bitmover on November 01, 2026, 07:13:14 PM

Tivemos muitas mudan�as com o bolsonaro , sao governos com pol�ticas praticamente opostas em todos os sentidos. Por isso que tivemos um caos nos mercados com a eleicao dele.

Reforma da previd�ncia passou, redu��o de impostos, zerou o IOF no cartao de credito (e ja voltou pra 6% de novo), privatiza��o de muitas empresas (vendeu toda a distribui��o dos postos de gasolina da Petrobras, vendeu a eletrobras).

So pacote de "maldades". Superavit prim�rio.

Lula esta re-estatizando tudo, faliu os correios, aumentou impostos, est� aumentando cotas para minorias etc etc.
E lula so pacote de bondades. A base dele acha que se dinheiro acabar � so imprimir mais. Divida crescendo loucamente.

Ele pegou o ajuste que bolsonaro fez e esta fazendo a festa. Agora ele pegou a pr�pria heran�a maldita. Vamos ver o que vai acontecer

E o pronunciamento dele no domingo? Esclarecedor, n�o? Grin

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Sem especificar medidas para a economia, o presidente afirmou que a atua��o do governo ter� foco no crescimento e que um dos principais objetivos ⁠ser� ‌elevar a taxa de investimento para mais de ⁠20% do Produto Interno Bruto, em parceria com o setor privado.

https://www.infomoney.com.br/politica/lula-reafirma-compromisso-fiscal-mas-nao-evita-detalhar-medidas-para-reduzir-juros/

Achei engra�ado, nessa mat�ria do Infomoney, o economista "considerou positiva a men��o in�dita � preocupa��o com a d�vida" Roll Eyes

Realmente, quando iniciaram o governo passado, criaram toda aquela pol�mica em torno do teto de gastos; a� vieram com o "arcabou�o fiscal", um termo esquisito para soar como se tivessem criado um plano melhor ainda. Resultado: os gastos e as d�vidas "to the moon". E olha que o Haddad � mestre em Economia... Shocked

A forma��o n�o ajudou muito, n�?

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�N�o vamos colocar meta. Vamos deixar a meta aberta, mas, quando atingirmos a meta, vamos dobrar a meta�

A� agora vem o Lula e fala que se preocupa com a d�vida e os juros... � in�dito mesmo. Cheesy

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 09:56:57 AM

Vou te falar que meus btc sao tao antigos que eu nao sei nem a origem mais..

Mas quando eles falam em origem, n�o � propriamente de onde arranjaste as moedas.
� se as moedas v�em de uma wallet tua ou n�o. Se dizeres que � uma wallet tua, podem pedir para assinar uma mensagem.

Isso de saber onde obtiveste essas moedas, j� � mais uma quest�o que as autoridades fiscais podem levantar.

Quote from: idanilsom on Today at 01:10:06 PM

eu digitei primeiro na blueWallet mais a blue Walet mandou a mensagem palavras nao compativel com o padrao Bluewallet "palavras LegacyHD" eu insistir varias vezes entao numa das tentativas de recovery criou uma carteira com um cartao vermelho com caminhos de derivacao bip com saldo zerado e nao tinha meu endereco tentei o recover na micelium tambem a mensagem palavras nao compativel pois sao palavras "Bitcoin-v0.1" tentei o recover Sparrow e apareceu a mensagem polavras nao compatival palavras sem checksum todas eu insistir bastante no recover forsando o recover e todas gerou a mesma carteita com caminho de derivacao igual com enderecos e saldo zero.

Tirando a parte que voc� fez uma liga��o de v�deo com o Satoshi.. d� uma olhada na carteira Electrum.. ela tamb�m aceita 12 palavras, mas usa uma lista diferente do BIP-39 e foi implementada ainda em 2011 (anos antes do BIP-39)..

N�o sei se as vers�es atuais trabalham com essas primeiras seeds (exemplo: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/issues/6844).. mas se voc� realmente tem bitcoins muito antigos, pode valer a pena investigar..

Outra op��o seria buscar por alguma corretora da data, j� que voc� fala em compra e interface web.. isso inclui nomes como New Liberty Standard e BitcoinMarket, etc, mas todas j� faliram.. a �nica que teria esperan�a � a Intersango, que uns advogados brit�nicos (CEL Solicitors) conseguiram recuperar 61 BTC neste ano para um cliente... e a Mt.Gox, que recentemente atrasou os pagamentos por mais um ano para encontrar todos os lesados.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 02:51:06 PM

� extremamente improv�vel que em 2008 o satoshi falaria por video

� o Craig Wright brasileiro.

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Quote from: bitmover on November 07, 2026, 11:01:12 AM

...
Cara outro ponto importante. Por que voce ta vendendo na binance?
La nao tem a isen��o de 35k mensais pq ela � uma corretora gringa.

Voc� pode ser cobrado imposto a toa pela receita.
Usa uma brasileira.

A Binance j� n�o est� "abrasileirada"?

Digo, ap�s esses tramites que ela teve, migra��o de contas, comprou e est� usando a Sim;paul, e agora a transfer�ncia de contas...
J� n�o estaria toda no Brasil tendo a isen��o dos 35k?

Fiquei em d�vida agora Huh

Sim, 29/10/2026 foi a data de corte pra virar BR.

https://www.binance.com/pt-BR/support/faq/detail/d79576b30c8240118a043129e0c21398

Quote from: Questat on Today at 01:26:13 PM

I would also be biased, I would choose Bitcoin over other investments. However, at the same time I would be smart since Bitcoin is still considered a high-risk asset, depending on our target if we want a consistent profit, I'm pretty sure Bitcoin cannot give us that, so we also have to think of a more realistic investment.

You can consider Bitcoin as a good investment asset, you can invest money in Bitcoin. You can consider Bitcoin as a low risk or high risk asset but your practice has a same requirement of managing risk and capital well enough.

Investment into anything has risk but if you ignore risk, you will have terrible risk management and Bitcoin even has very good ROI won't be able to save you and your capital. Because Bitcoin has bull market and bear market, while with bad risk management, bear market will take out your bitcoin and money in this volatile and risky market.

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You can DCA for your accumulation and profit withdrawals while usually people talk about DCA for accumulation, not for withdrawals.
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Quote from: bitmover on Today at 12:05:53 PM

Quote from: nullius on Today at 11:36:04 AM

(In this context, �don�t use CEX� is not a valid answer; fungible money by definition can be sent to anyone.)

Exactly.

Telling other people what they should or shouldn't do with their own money goes against the ethos of Bitcoin. That's precisely what Satoshi's creation and bitcoin is about.

I saw fit to clarify, because

Quote from: nullius on November 02, 2026, 12:04:08 PM

�Not your keys, not your coins.� So, don�t use CEX. I don�t.

I routinely advocate against CEX. But context is always important. Here, we are discussing fungibility. If you have fungible money, you can send it to CEX, or you can send it to a hooker to pay for sex, or you can send it to the government to pay your taxes; it makes no difference who the payee is. If you can�t do that, then your money is nonfungible�and it�s therefore not money.

All of the stick-your-head-in-the-sand �taint doesn�t exist!� people must talk from both sides of their mouths, and blame the n00b for using CEX with tainted coins.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 12:05:53 PM

That is what banks do to us: "for your safety you can't send your money to this person".

But here, it is precisely inverted: �For your safety, you can�t send your tainted money (which we deny is tainted, because taint doesn�t exist) to the bank.�

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 10:29:35 AM

all this ideology that "taint doesnt exist" fails when it meets reality

If there is an enforcement mechanism, it exists.

As I said before, I�m an anarchist�my ideology is that laws don�t exist. I�ve declared that so-called �money laundering� doesn�t exist; it�s a made-up non-crime. But �when it meets reality�, these things do exist due to enforcement mechanisms.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 10:29:35 AM

I have a lot of UTXO received from casinos and mixers, which are all medium-high AML in most AML checkers. This is real, you can like it or not.

A few months ago a friend from my city asked to buy bitcoin from me.
I know that in a few years he will send those coins to a CEX to sell them.

He is not able to deal with such utxo and he will get coins frozen. And he will ask me what to do. Maybe he may even be requested by the CEX to get documents/information from me about where those coins came from. Actually, this shows that if you care about privacy you should care about the AML of your coins.

I decided to sell him my coins that I got from other CEX, to avoid trouble.

This is the nonfungible bagholder�s dilemma. For both ethical and pragmatic reasons, you choose to be the bagholder, instead of making the other person the bagholder.

You drain your wallet of clean coins (= more valuable NFTs), you spend your intangible costs of your time, effort, and valuable expertise, you probably need to spend out-of-pocket costs doing these �AML checks�, and you wind up holding a bag of filthy, dirty, tainted coins (= less valuable NFTs).

If you chose otherwise, you�d inflict tangible and intangible costs on the other n00b who�s gonna send your filthy, dirty coins to a CEX, lol. (In this context, �don�t use CEX� is not a valid answer; fungible money by definition can be sent to anyone.) Some of the intangible costs to them could be quite high�and could make blowback to you.

No one will thank you for making the responsible choice�which, incidentally, is also a self-protective choice. Well, I�ll thank you.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 10:29:35 AM

Bitcoin is much larger than this forum community.

When institutional investors have $billions in Bitcoin, this forum community is a drop in the bucket. It empowers them to co-opt Bitcoin for their own purposes, according to their own rules.

Quote from: nullius on November 07, 2026, 04:24:52 PM

Quote from: nullius on July 29, 2022, 07:18:13 PM

Coin taint and blacklisting are what break Bitcoin�s fungibility. BTC is an NFT: A non-fungible token, due to coin taint and blacklisting. The subset of Bitcoiners who refuse to acknowledge this are either living in a Reality Distortion Field, or still under the influence of the blockchain transparency fetishization with which Mike Hearn, et al. poisoned Bitcoin early on. I identify a lack of fungibility as the biggest long-term economic threat to Bitcoin.

Quote from: joker_josue on Today at 10:59:20 AM

I never said Bitcoin is perfect. But what has been demonstrated over the years is that the way it was designed remains effective in fulfilling its purpose.

The existence of this 82-page thread is evidence that it�s not effective at fulfilling its purpose.

Quote from: joker_josue on Today at 10:59:20 AM

If the transparency of the blockchain were such a defining flaw, one would expect that cryptocurrencies with greater privacy would have achieved a much more dominant position.

Bitcoin has had a flood of investment from big money that doesn�t give a fuck about cypherpunk values. It�s why I�m more than beginning to think that the whole �number go up� thing is, in itself, a flaw�a security vulnerability. It makes Bitcoin susceptible to being co-opted by banks, ETFs, billionaires, and CEX traders, along with a flood of n00bs who think of their Coinbase app as a magical kind of a bank account.

As you observe here, cryptocurrencies with greater privacy (ergo, fungibility) are successfully competing with Bitcoin amongst cypherpunks. When I say that I must treat BTC as a hot potato to dump for ZEC/XMR, it is both a self-protective necessity, and a vote with my wallet.

Quote from: joker_josue on Today at 10:59:20 AM

Another point we must consider is the context in which Bitcoin was created. The goal was to allow people to have greater control over their money, without depending on third parties to validate their transactions. Blockchain transparency plays an important role in this model, allowing verification that no one is violating or abusing the system, by anyone.

Blockchain transparency is not necessary for this purpose. Both Zcash and Monero provide the verification that you describe, without blockchain transparency.

They didn�t exist when Satoshi was active. Satoshi didn�t know how to build them. Within the past few pages of this thread, I�ve documented how in 2013, major Bitcoin developers such as Hal Finney, Greg Maxwell, and Adam Back were interested in applying new technologies to solve this problem:

Quote from: nullius on November 02, 2026, 10:19:21 AM

This post will eventually have the maximum 100 merits from me. The list of people who have sent it merit thus far is interesting: Bitcoin experts and legends, privacy advocates, both Zcash and Monero users.

Quote from: satoshi on August 11, 2010, 12:14:22 AM

Merited by nullius (50), garlonicon (20), o_e_l_e_o (4), Foxpup (3), ABCbits (2), Hueristic (1), BitcoinFX (1)

[...] The challenge is, how do you prove that no other spends exist? [...] It's hard to think of how to apply zero-knowledge-proofs in this case. [...] We're trying to prove the absence of something, which seems to require knowing about all and checking that the something isn't included.

Quote from: joker_josue on Today at 10:59:20 AM

Naturally, this brought limitations in terms of privacy. But we cannot analyze this characteristic only by its disadvantages, ignoring the role it played in building a decentralized and verifiable system.

It can be improved, yes. Does it make sense to do it now? I don't think so anymore. It's up to the community to create solutions that can allow these disadvantages to be overcome.

That comes dangerously close to declaring Bitcoin obsolete.

Quote from: joker_josue on Today at 10:59:20 AM

If people start using BTC directly for payments, instead of constantly relying on conversion to fiat currency, we will be reducing the need to resort to intermediaries and, consequently, exposure to some of these restrictions. Because that was the idea behind Bitcoin: to eliminate intermediaries.

Perhaps it would be important to promote more acceptance of BTC as a means of payment by businesses and service providers.

I believe this would be a very important step towards achieving true financial freedom.

The XMR community has done the best of anyone to work towards building exactly what you say, with XMR: Work for XMR, get paid in XMR, buy everything you need in XMR, live within the XMR economy. They know this ideal, and they�ve been pushing for it hard.

The resilience, zealousness (unfortunately, sometimes to a fault), and creativity of their community is why I tacitly support XMR, even though I consider their privacy technology strictly inferior to Zcash.

You still haven�t explained to me why I should stick with BTC, instead of using XMR for the stated purpose and pushing for ZEC to get the same thing.

Quote from: joker_josue on Today at 10:59:20 AM

Maybe I'm being utopian, maybe. But, since I don't like to change the rules of the game after it's already started, I think it makes more sense to focus on what we can do with what we have, and not on what could have been done from the beginning.

That�s not Utopian at all. To be Utopian is to envision an XMR circular economy where everyone lives from XMR, and then work to build it. What you say sounds more like, �deeply invested in BTC and want number to go up, so no competition, please�.

I�ll be too polite to remark on �I don't like to change the rules of the game�, when Bitcoin was invented to change the rules of the game.

I give up on trying to keep up with replies that come in while I�m writing and previewing.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 10:29:35 AM

I have a lot of UTXO received from casinos and mixers, which are all medium-high AML in most AML checkers. This is real, you can like it or not.

I do not doubt that exchanges apply it. It is very real if you rely on these exchanges. But it is also made up. And because it is made up, any score that tries to predict where the next tainted coin is, is also made up.

There is no way we could all agree that X group of coins is tainted, and the rest of the coins are clean. Some scores will flag X coins, some will flag Y. These tools rely on heuristics that are unreliable, and completely overlook the fact that an exchange can just decide to clean some coins because it's the exchange.

If you don't care about the privacy of your coins, you can just comply with it, but you still risk having your coins flagged.

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28. 314792: examplens (Trust: +10 / =4 / -0) (DT1! (24) 4068 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
29. 317618: nutildah (Trust: +20 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (34) 11135 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
30. 350580: irfan_pak10 (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (4) 807 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
31. 355846: yahoo62278 (Trust: +39 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (23) 4595 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
32. 379487: LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (22) 12436 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
33. 395806: o_solo_miner (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 576 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
34. 405464: mocacinno (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 4568 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
35. 405482: Real-Duke (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 3059 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
36. 459836: LoyceV (Trust: +33 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (62) 22036 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
37. 487418: The Sceptical Chymist (Trust: +29 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (31) 6410 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
38. 521899: SFR10 (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 3199 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
39. 533583: Lucius (Trust: neutral) (DT1! (2) 6965 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
40. 805820: Lafu (Trust: +17 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (16) 4123 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
41. 807453: Cointxz (Trust: +5 / =7 / -0) (DT1! (0) 856 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
42. 811213: polymerbit (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1017 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
43. 830967: tweetious (Trust: +32 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 463 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
44. 839568: AakZaki (Trust: +9 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (8) 2423 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
45. 889300: giammangiato (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1544 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
46. 914465: crwth (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (0) 1375 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
47. 932931: Ale88 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 3786 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
48. 949248: Kryptowerk (Trust: +46 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 1353 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
49. 995810: hosemary (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 7198 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
50. 1000199: krogothmanhattan (Trust: +94 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (17) 4325 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
51. 1016855: JollyGood (Trust: +20 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (24) 2102 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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53. 1051955: roycilik (Trust: +12 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (2) 1908 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
54. 1052091: CryptopreneurBrainboss (Trust: +18 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (15) 5268 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
55. 1059082: hugeblack (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (12) 4743 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
56. 1067333: El duderino_ (Trust: +26 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (11) 15797 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
57. 1097370: KTChampions (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 2418 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
58. 1099980: Trofo (Trust: +34 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (14) 3925 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
59. 1137579: icopress (Trust: +88 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (41) 13694 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
60. 1190631: JeromeTash (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 1506 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
61. 1247226: logfiles (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (12) 2437 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
62. 1269497: Bitcoin_Arena (Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (8) 2146 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
63. 1285797: GazetaBitcoin (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (19) 10392 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
64. 1311641: tvplus006 (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (14) 2734 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
65. 1424178: mole0815 (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (12) 3772 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
66. 1554927: bitmover (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 7917 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
67. 1582324: DdmrDdmr (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 11408 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
68. 1634314: shahzadafzal (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 3591 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
69. 1724800: Lakai01 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 4448 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
70. 1827294: Husna QA (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 3587 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
71. 1852120: fillippone (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (21) 21817 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
72. 1878246: abhiseshakana (Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (2) 2649 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
73. 1980983: The Cryptovator (Trust: +19 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (24) 2633 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
74. 1982152: lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +27 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (29) 5930 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
75. 2003859: DireWolfM14 (Trust: +21 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (22) 6018 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
76. 2015418: notblox1 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1689 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
77. 2363935: YOSHIE (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (20) 1916 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
78. 2477002: inspace (Trust: +5 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1841 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
79. 2497429: jokers10 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 4226 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
80. 2519096: Awaklara (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 862 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
81. 2652924: geophphreigh (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 1148 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
82. 2654005: zasad@ (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (7) 5890 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
83. 2658890: Rikafip (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (24) 8618 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
84. 2709122: Etranger (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 1896 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
85. 2739424: NotATether (Trust: +7 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (9) 10548 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
86. 2739454: Stalker22 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 1682 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
87. 2745549: decodx (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 1015 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
88. 2775483: BlackHatCoiner (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 10234 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
89. 2776678: Charles-Tim (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (6) 6605 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
90. 2819174: MrMojoRising26 (Trust: +26 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 1136 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
91. 2836461: Free Market Capitalist (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (14) 3706 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
92. 2872248: ZAINmalik75 (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (0) 1036 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
93. 3442536: AHOYBRAUSE (Trust: +2 / =4 / -0) (DT1! (6) 2128 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
94. 3486361: PowerGlove (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 7371 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
95. 3519432: SirJohnVonSlotty (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1120 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
96. 3558380: Mia Chloe (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 2314 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)

DT 2
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2. 4: sirius (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (935 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. 2252: laanwj (Trust: neutral) (50 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. 2676: casascius (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (193 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. 3420: dooglus (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (339 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
6. 4171: Raize (Trust: neutral) (28 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
7. 4528: Matt Corallo (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (15 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. 6347: Maged (Trust: neutral) (17 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
9. 10354: JJG (Trust: neutral) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. 11425: gmaxwell (Trust: +8 / =0 / -1) (10663 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)

Quote from: bitmover on November 07, 2026, 07:28:03 PM

Also, I don't want to send high AML coins which I received to people who I know are not able to deal with them.

Why would the people in charge of this operation allow you to simply tell whether your coins are "high risk"? Have you ever paused and pondered about that? If there is an algorithm that reads my coin and tells me if it is tainted and why, then I can just not do the steps that makes it tainted.

So the fact that someone's selling these scores as a service means that they can very well be made up. Just as taint is made up.

Quote from: mindrust on November 07, 2026, 06:58:25 PM

Quote from: bitmover on November 07, 2026, 06:06:35 PM

Quote from: mindrust on November 07, 2026, 01:51:29 PM

Most people who don't have a basic sense of cyber security shouldn't be dealing with crypto in the first place.

I disagree.

I have a friend who doesn't understand a shit about cryptography and computers and he holds nearly 1 btc... in a bank owned crypto exchange and there is no btc withdrawal option available. (sounds dumb right?)

He is doing this because he doesn't even understand hw wallets and he doesn't want to. He is pretty sure he would mess it up too and some people who happen to use hw wallets indeed messed it up and lost coins. He read the news. He would rather trust a bank and he calls himself a bitcoin investor, which is true but that's not the reason most people here invest in btc for. (we are not only interested in the price, we want independence too)

Hw wallets create a false sense of security for the wrong people and that's pretty dangerous.

Self custody isn't mandatory.
I'd say to the contrary, if any platform wants to act as a custodian, they should put themselves under heavy scrutiny and provide proof of reserves to customers. Independent accountants once a year don't cover the technical capabilities bitcoin offers.

Even through I understand crypto pretty well I'd say I find myself holding decent amounts on centralised platforms. The convenience of being able to convert your crypto in real time to make payments in locations where the only payment option is a MasterCard/Visa terminal is pretty convenient.

It would be nice if the crypto industry enforced this standards through self regulation. But banking standards are completely inadequate to showcase a crypto service isn't bankrupt in the traditional sense because so many new factors are introduced. Holding crypto in a custodian platform could also offer certain protections if these standards were applied though. Bitmex and Kraken already have something similar. Most other platforms don't.

The concern to not hold deposits of crypto to custodian platforms is valid, but it doesn't mean people who don't hold technical knowledge shouldn't touch crypto. Some of the responsibility also falls on regulators for failing to do their supposed job securing clients of financial platforms. And also the platforms themselves

Quote from: bitmover on November 03, 2026, 09:14:44 PM

Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 19, 2026, 09:29:22 PM

It seems the representative @b1ack has been somewhat inactive lately, his last interaction in his own ANN was on 2026/06/21, which is practically 03 months ago, and his last interactions are in giveaway organizations, where his last post was made on the same date, 2026/06/21.

The representative needs to be attentive to what is happening in the ANN.

This is indeed a long time.

Certainly makes everyone worried, and I would personally avoid making swaps until the official representative shows up in the forum with some posts.

There was a problem with the second instant exchange (0trace) and the lack of communication is the first sign of a problem.
I supported the initiative to warn all potential users and refrain from using b1exch until someone officially comes forward and explains what is happening.
There is no justification for them to operate in complete secrecy, just as there is no need for us to have new dissatisfied users here.

So, for now, stay away from b1exch.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 06:06:35 PM

Quote from: mindrust on Today at 01:51:29 PM

Most people who don't have a basic sense of cyber security shouldn't be dealing with crypto in the first place.

I disagree.

I have a friend who doesn't understand a shit about cryptography and computers and he holds nearly 1 btc... in a bank owned crypto exchange and there is no btc withdrawal option available. (sounds dumb right?)

He is doing this because he doesn't even understand hw wallets and he doesn't want to. He is pretty sure he would mess it up too and some people who happen to use hw wallets indeed messed it up and lost coins. He read the news. He would rather trust a bank and he calls himself a bitcoin investor, which is true but that's not the reason most people here invest in btc for.

Hw wallets create a false sense of security for the wrong people and that's pretty dangerous.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 11:01:12 AM

...
Cara outro ponto importante. Por que voce ta vendendo na binance?
La nao tem a isen��o de 35k mensais pq ela � uma corretora gringa.

Voc� pode ser cobrado imposto a toa pela receita.
Usa uma brasileira.

A Binance j� n�o est� "abrasileirada"?

Digo, ap�s esses tramites que ela teve, migra��o de contas, comprou e est� usando a Sim;paul, e agora a transfer�ncia de contas...
J� n�o estaria toda no Brasil tendo a isen��o dos 35k?

Fiquei em d�vida agora Huh

Quote from: nullius on Today at 04:24:52 PM

Eh? You encourage AML checks. ~

Quote from: NotATether on December 11, 2023, 02:52:26 PM

[ANN] BitMixList.org - XMR <=> BTC - AML Score Checker - Bitcoin Mixer List
Merited by klarki (100), bitmover (15), ABCbits (13), LoyceV (12), n0nce (10),

Please don't make assumptions about my intentions.
First, my Merit doesn't mean I agree to every part of a post, nor do I encourage everything in there. It simply means I think the post is worth reading.
Second, that topic started out as [ANN] BitMixList.com - Bitcoin Mixer List and got edited later. I sent those 12 Merits on Tue 12 Dec 2023 11:22:31 AM CET, and when the title wasn't edited yet.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 01:17:00 PM

Ser� que isso n�o � consequ�ncia do hack no mercadobitcoin?

Duvido que o nubank tenha uma infraestrutura propria ele deve usar a liquidez de terceiro, possivelmente o mercadobitcoin.

Eu apostaria na Paxos.. j� que o MP tamb�m caiu e as transa��es de ambas devem ser processadas pela Paxos (tamb�m teve reclama��es do PayPal, que tamb�m usa Paxos).. mas como a Paxos n�o mostrou nenhum alerta em seu status, talvez tenha alguma liga��o com a Chainalysis que tomou um ataque nessa semana..

Eles trabalham com a Chainalysis desde 2024:

Quote from: https://nu.com/en/newsroom/company/nubank-announces-sending-and-receiving-cryptocurrencies-directly-through-the-platform

Compliance and Security is a priority for Nubank
Nubank is working with Chainalysis, the blockchain data platform, to set a high standard of compliance for all crypto transactions. This collaboration aims to further protect customers.

Blockchain technology, known for its versatility in asset tokenization, smart contract execution, and fast transfers, has become an essential foundation for transaction security and efficiency. Beyond its conventional applications, Nubank is actively leveraging Chainalysis technology to monitor addresses on the blockchain, identifying and disrupting any suspicious activity or activities associated with illicit activities.

N�o sei se j� publicaram uma explica��o.. mas deve ser algo pequeno que j� devem ter resolvido.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 09:07:02 AM

"Taint" only exists if people want it to exist, and the companies who's business model is to sell "the notion of taint" are good at convincing more and more people they need to pay them for their "services".

Eh? You encourage AML checks. (No offense to NotATether; I understand why they offer this. My point is that taint is real�and it�s grown to be something it wasn�t four years ago.)

Quote from: NotATether on December 11, 2023, 02:52:26 PM

[ANN] BitMixList.org - XMR <=> BTC - AML Score Checker - Bitcoin Mixer List
Merited by klarki (100), bitmover (15), ABCbits (13), LoyceV (12), n0nce (10), NeuroticFish (5), Pmalek (5), OmegaStarScream (4), TryNinja (3), dkbit98 (3), nc50lc (2), Husna QA (2), suchmoon (1), hugeblack (1), DireWolfM14 (1), RGBTC (1), Bitcoin_Arena (1), AakZaki (1), m2017 (1), God Of Thunder (1), Helena Yu (1), Tr�void (1)

Bitcoin Historical Context

Quote from: ABCbits on Today at 09:23:00 AM

Quote from: nullius on November 06, 2026, 10:42:12 PM

Please take the long view. This fight started not later than 2011�perhaps earlier; a more knowledgeable Bitcoin historian would need to elucidate.
I didn't know someone speculate such possibility long time ago, although it's disappointing he consider it as something that shouldn't be feared.

I think one of the problems is, most Bitcoiners lack adequate historical context to see the implications of this thread.

You are far more knowledeable than most forum users, so please don�t take insult as I illustrate this example:

The upper bound (latest possible time) for when you (u=359716) first discovered Bitcoin is 2014. (Not asking. None of my business.) Thus, if I tell you that Gavin (u=224) �verified� Faketoshi in 2016, or if I talk to you about the personalities involved in the 2017 Jihancoin hardfork, I don�t need to explain. You may know many parts of this better than I do! If you talk to a newbie who discovered Bitcoin in 2020, you may guide them to read old forum threads about Faketoshi, and about the fork wars, etc.

If I discuss my suspicion that Gavin (u=224) may have been compromised by the CIA, you may know why; even though the most relevant thread was in 2011, it�s one of the most (in)famous old threads on the forum.

Yet if even you don�t know that this...

Quote from: ABCbits on Today at 09:23:00 AM

It reminds me of statement from one of former US official few years ago.

Quote from: https://www.theblock.co/news/regulation/2023-12-26-bitcoin-faces-risk-of-protocol-level-censorship-as-miners-under-increasing-regulatory-pressure-267759

Carole House, a former White House director for cybersecurity and secure digital innovation, who is now executive in residence at Terranet Ventures, spoke at the DeCenter Spring Conference at Princeton University in April, proposing exactly that.

In her speech, House suggested that it would be great if miners, as well as validators of proof-of-stake blockchains, came together and agreed not to mine OFAC-blacklisted transactions, as well as not to build upon blocks with such transactions. She also noted that having as much hashpower as possible in the U.S., where miners have to comply with the sanctions, would help make that vision a reality.

It's essentially 51% attack under disguise of "OFAC compliant".

...is indeed only the later iteration of a plan first discussed in 2011, (and maybe even earlier that I don�t know about?)...
By the way, I observe that Hearn posted this topic ten days before Gavin announced that he was visiting the CIA; see also the alleged Satoshi email quoted below:

Quote from: Mike Hearn on April 17, 2011, 08:59:59 AM

From time to time governments freeze the assets of people or organizations they believe to be criminal. [...] BitCoins apparent inability to do this will certainly make law enforcement uncomfortable with the concept.

But in reality, by the time BitCoin is large enough for this to be a real issue it will be quite possible to freeze bitcoins by requiring miners to exclude transactions from blacklisted addresses.

I infer that you read it, ABCbits; I quote it for others.

...then, I guess that most of the discussion of this 81-page thread probably lacks for historical context.

Why am I freaking out about the mixer advertising ban? I don�t need mixers, and I was never in their paid signature campaigns. I see this in the big picture, in the historical context of the past 15 years. Step by step, Bitcoin is being transformed from a system of freedom into a weapon for crushing oppression.

I intend soon to make a new thread showing some old threads that I know, and inviting others to do similarly.

Check Post History

Once again, none of what I say here is new for me.

Quote from: nullius on March 15, 2021, 06:01:29 AM

If different same-sized pieces of a currency have different values, then it is not a currency at all: It is a chaotic mess of non-fungible tokens. (This is what Mike Hearn wanted; and where is he now?)

Quote from: nullius on February 25, 2020, 01:30:55 PM

Quote

From: Satoshi Nakamoto <satoshin@gmx.com>
Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 3:40 PM
To: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net>

[...]

I've moved on to other things. It's [Bitcoin is] in good hands with Gavin and everyone.

So, this unauthenticated e-mail was allegedly sent by Satoshi to Mike Mr Surveillance & Taint Hearn four days before Gavin Andresen publicly announced his visit to the CIA:

Subject: Gavin will visit the CIA

Quote from: Gavin Andresen on April 27, 2011, 07:00:26 PM

I want to get this out in the open because it is the kind of thing that will generate conspiracy theories: I'm going to give a presentation about Bitcoin at CIA headquarters in June at an emerging technologies conference for the US intelligence community.

Quote from: nullius on July 29, 2022, 07:18:13 PM

Coin taint and blacklisting are what break Bitcoin�s fungibility. BTC is an NFT: A non-fungible token, due to coin taint and blacklisting. The subset of Bitcoiners who refuse to acknowledge this are either living in a Reality Distortion Field, or still under the influence of the blockchain transparency fetishization with which Mike Hearn, et al. poisoned Bitcoin early on. I identify a lack of fungibility as the biggest long-term economic threat to Bitcoin.

Quote from: joker_josue on Today at 09:31:35 AM

Is the problem AI? No.

Disagreed, but that�s off-topic.

Quote from: joker_josue on Today at 09:31:35 AM

Is Bitcoin to blame? No.
Was it the fault of whoever created Bitcoin? No.
People just like to take advantage of what they have that's good.

That view is both totally passive, and outright nihilistic.

Quote from: joker_josue on Today at 09:31:35 AM

The best proof that Bitcoin is private is that to this day no one has been able to discover who its creator is. You could say that he didn't touch his Bitcoin. He didn't touch that Bitcoin that was known to be his. And the other one? We don't know.

That assumes a whole string of facts not in evidence. Even assuming all those facts arguendo, all it would show is that it�s hard to dox the coins of someone who mined anonymously on a desktop PC in 2009. For those of us who didn�t, it�s irrelevant. It�s also irrelevant to further usage of those coins; as soon as a 2009-era anonymous miner moves the coins, they go into circulation like any others, and are thereafter subject to all of the same privacy and fungibility problems.

Quote from: satscraper on Today at 09:59:30 AM

As I understand it, you�re trying to blow against the wind.

You could have said the same thing to Satoshi in 2008. Some people aren�t so passive.

Quote from: satscraper on Today at 09:59:30 AM

What should I say about that...probably nothing, except that every man is the smith of his own rough luck.

This is the type of response that gets Bitcoin accused of a cultlike mentality. If I�d written about problems with the banking system (where I could�ve made a ton of money when I was younger), then you�d give me three cheers. Instead, I wrote about real problems with Bitcoin�and I showed some historical context of how Bitcoin developers tried to fix those problems in 2013. You reply that it�s basically just my fault that I didn�t corrupt my principles with FOMO for HODL moons. 🚀

I reject a system that doesn�t give me freedom. Isn�t Bitcoin supposed to be about freedom? I didn�t come to Bitcoin for financial speculation, and I�m more than beginning to agree with those who say the speculation aspect is a bad thing. It corrupts.

Quote from: satscraper on Today at 09:59:30 AM

As LoyceV said, �the taint� here is nothing more than perception, and it seems you took this stuff seriously, just as the government wanted.

So, it�s all in my head? If I get funds frozen under shotgun KYC because of taint, will you guarantee my transaction, and make me whole with money from your own wallet? Or will you tell me it�s �nothing more than perception� that my funds were frozen?

This is gaslighting�with a twist: You�re in denial of the real impact of taint. See also my above self-quote about a �Reality Distortion Field�.

Quote from: satscraper on Today at 09:59:30 AM

I didn�t.

Yes, you do. Your signature, avatar, and personal text currently advertise �AntiSwap.io - NO AML/KYC EXCHANGER MONITORING�, which would not need to exist without taint and �AML� problems.

Whereas I�m the only one in this thread who absolutely rejects the concept of taint. I shall never, ever use an �AML checker�. I swear on my PGP key.

Quote from: nullius on October 30, 2026, 10:16:23 PM

Quote from: nullius (DRAFT)

I could be open-minded about getting my dick stomped on an anvil [sexually explicit link]; I am absolutely closed-minded about �AML checkers�.

You may also want to inform some other benighted rubes that taint is all in their heads, such as NotATether, or...

Quote from: nullius on October 30, 2026, 10:16:23 PM

Quote from: PrivacyG on October 30, 2026, 09:34:33 PM

I put my Address in to the b1exch Anti Money Laundering checking tool for the first time this year, and considering my threat level I should be tied up and locked in a dark, damp cell right now!

No offense to said �benighted rubes�, whom I personally respect. We�ve all gotta deal with the real world somehow. My own choice to deal with it is henceforth to treat a Bitcoin UTXO as a hot potato. I will hold ZEC and some XMR, use exchanges with strict no-KYC policies, and never, ever use an �AML checker�.

Anyway, satscraper, your account was registered in 2022; perhaps you may want to learn the history of taint, before you try to teach others about it.

Quote from: Mike Hearn on March 23, 2013, 10:04:50 PM

One of most commonly raised issues with Bitcoin is that of crime and punishment. Over the past 40 years our societies have, through both fair means and foul, built an integrated anti-money laundering system that attempts to let governments trace the proceeds of crime.

[...] Blacklist providers maintain sets of outputs that are blacklisted or tainted in some way, for instance because the owner reported them stolen or because it�s believed they are owned by some criminal enterprise. [...]

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 02:56:27 PM

For example, I made a travel but I needed to make a bitcoin payment related to this. I shouldn't carry my hardware wallet and all my life savings to the trip.

For such occasions, I prefer to bring my "spare laptop", and make a pay-to-many transaction in Electrum. It saves on fees. But don't mind me, I simply like any Linux PC with a real keyboard much more than a phone.

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Quote from: mindrust on November 06, 2026, 08:18:34 PM

If you don't have a very very specific reason to own a hardware wallet, It means you don't need it. Most people don't need a hardware wallet. They need a well secured linux box (preferably offline but only if you are sending/receiving transactions online is OK too) and a piece of paper as a backup. That's a much better solution than a hardware wallet.

Well, the hardware wallet comes with the supposed benefit of having a secure environment out of the box. Most people can't update their software alone, let alone set up a secure linux environment by themselves in a trustless way.

Most people doesn't even know what is a Linux.

I can guarantee that 99% of the people have no what idea of what a ' secured linux box' is, and shouldn't be trying to use one, because they lack the knowledge to do that correctly.

Hardware wallets are for these 99% people

Most people who don't have a basic sense of cyber security shouldn't be dealing with crypto in the first place. Hardware wallet isn't making it easier for them, in fact if they insist on staying dumb, they'll lose their coins eventually in the worst possible time.

They better trust banks with their money at this point if they can't bear the responsibility of securing a private key/seed words which is just a combination of a few words/letters.