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Made some bets. Lost all my 4usd balance but won 9 usd in the end!! Thanks for the tournament

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Can you please tell me your position? Grin

I was the 40th place, you can see in the screenshot.

Too many people playing this tournament. Looks like bitz.io is having a lot of active users

Gambling is not an easy thing at all but I find Zoomic comments very funny Grin

"congratulations for winning despite losing".
It's normal to win a bonus from contests and in the end you still end up losing it all and giving it back to the casino. It's worth participating by the way. Hard luck man! You're lucky for being 40th place in tournament because I couldn't even win anything or even know where I sit on the standings.

Bitz seems to have a lot of users now and it's a good thing. It means all their hard work is really paying off. A good way to attract users is by coming up with fun things like contests or games where users win bonuses and prizes but many don't see the usefulness. I am more interested in Bitz since I came across them because of their relentless introduction of games and contests to spice things up for users.

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Quote from: SageSwap on April 06, 2026, 01:54:07 PM

It's hard to say, some people just don't have anything to do.

Ddos attacks are expensive to maintain.... Basically every decent web site out there gets attacks from time to time, I don't understand it as well.

I think that even cloudflare may be behind some attacks to try to push users to paid plans.

ddos attacks aren't expensive to carry out, it depends on the target, though, a simple website hosted on free cf can be taken down for $15/M by random stresser/api whatever

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 10:25:05 AM

I was the 40th place, you can see in the screenshot.

Too many people playing this tournament. Looks like bitz.io is having a lot of active users

Yea I noticed that too, Bitz do have a lot of customers now, because I was so surprised how I went from 8th place to 39th position. At first I was thinking the participants will not be much so I did not really put enough effort in gaining more points. And it's funny how I used the little winning I had to gamble, hoping to just top it up and still end up losing it. I somehow regretted it though and if I had known, I would have just left the winning and continue collecting my daily SATS.

Quote from: bitmover on April 12, 2026, 01:02:41 PM

I think people are over reacting about ledger flaws, which exist. Specially about personal data leaks. And the ledger recovery feature.

If you do not turn on the ledger recovery, ledger is still a hardware wallet and way better than most wallets.

Trezor is the best hardware wallet, not doubt about it.

But if you have a ledger, you should use it until you buy a new hardware wallet.
It is safer than using other methods.

lots of people lost funds using hot wallets or airgapped methods. But nobody ever lost funds using a ledger wallet (only by user fault)

While you are pretty much correct, given the current status, you seem to miss the fact that "selective scamming" can happen at any time and it would take quite a lot of time and money lost if somebody pulls something like that.
Imho Ledger either has the tools for that, either it's too close to that for my liking.

So while Ledger is still 1000000x better than a hot wallet, being a little paranoid is - for many - part of being bitcoiner. And if that's the case, Ledger becomes a clear no-go, and I fully understand that, I hope you too.

Anyone else having a problem when exporting lists of the most active users from a specific topic? I am using standard code that is working normally when I am making a list of the most active members per board, but for some reason it gets broken when doing the same for topics.

It worked normally while ninjastic.space

Here is the code

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[url=/?action=profile;u={uid}]{username} [{count}][/url]

And this is what I get when I use it for topic (it doesn't create links like it should)

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3. joker_josue [114]
4. bitmover [59]
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Quote from: bitmover on Today at 10:25:05 AM

I was the 40th place, you can see in the screenshot.

Too many people playing this tournament. Looks like bitz.io is having a lot of active users

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I want to know something about this tournament, because I am interested to participate. Can you tell, this tournament is organized every week? So I can see it in which section of the casino? And what is the main task of this tournament?

I know when tournament is organized in casino, it is based on slot game. But bitz maybe different.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 10:12:35 AM

If you read the op and the first posts, you will see that this is what users were saying. When i said that it is better to use ledger than a hot wallet , people think that i "love ledger' or that I work for ledger. Wtf

You keep accusing us of putting others at risk,

Quote from: bitmover on April 13, 2026, 04:36:25 PM

I am just correcting all the wrong information that you and other users are writing in this topic which is putting other users at risk.

How do you not put others at risk by telling them we are spreading misinformation and that a closed source physical wallet is safer than a hot wallet that can be open source?

@bitmover, I understand you love Ledger, I did too, right up until they revealed their ability to extract SEED online from the secure element.

Until that point, I trusted them completely. But once they cleared the air around their famous claim that the seed never leaves SE by introduced their recovery process, I immediately moved my stash to multisig wallet. I set it up as a 2‑of‑3 quorum with Ledger Nano S, Electrum, and Sparrow as cosigners.

Later on, I bought Passport Core and created new multisig setup, replacing Ledger with Passport Core.

Why am I saying this? Because you can do the same — set up a multisig wallet with Ledger as just one of the cosigners. That way, you get to have your cake and eat it too.

Never trust any hardware or software wallet completely.

Even if Ledger is honest in its commitments regarding SEED, hardware wallets^{including Ledge} are still vulnerable to several types of attacks. Dark Skippy is one example, not to mention social engineering or supply‑chain risks. Truth to be said the vulnerability list for software wallets, is generally much longer.

Quote from: bitmover on April 13, 2026, 09:32:17 PM

Quote from: Meuserna on April 13, 2026, 05:11:37 PM

This is a good critic and you are right. There is a risk.

However, I doubt you consider a hot wallet safer than ledger Cheesy

Why limit your options to those two, both of which are bad?

Trezor is open source. It's a much better option.

Blockstream Jade is open source and airgapped. It's a much better option.

My own favorites are Krux and ShieldSigner, both of which are fully open source, stateless and airgapped. ShieldSigner is a fork of SeedSigner that adds many powerful features (encrypted seed QR, smartcard support, etc).

Ledger is a terrible choice. I wouldn't recommend Ledger to anyone, ever.

Ledger Live is loaded with trackers. Ledger employees have been phished, causing them to reveal Ledger's closed source code to hackers. Ledger's management lied about many key features of Ledger devices, which forced them to scrub their own website to remove falsehoods. Ledger is a terrible company.

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Quote from: bitmover on Today at 02:51:44 PM

Thanks bitz.io!
I just won about 9usd from the tournament last week! Received this email today.

Made some bets. Lost all my 4usd balance but won 9 usd in the end!! Thanks for the tournament

Congratulations Bitmover for winning despite losing.
Can you please tell me your position? Grin

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Quote from: bitmover on April 12, 2026, 01:02:41 PM

Someone tell me if this isn't true, that when Ledger announced the Recover option they inadvertently disclosed that they can access the private keys from Ledger devices (except for the Nano S), and that this was always true regardless of whether someone used that service or not. This is all coming from memory, as well as the update that included the Recover option being important as well.

I read all about it at the time, and it was enough to make me decide never to use any Ledger product, ever. If the above is even mostly true, then data leaks are the least of Ledger users' worries. So far nobody has reported any of their crypto going missing (into Ledger's hands I mean), but who knows what might happen down the road?

And also if there's truth to the above, I don't know why anyone who cares about security and/or privacy would support them. However, I'm going to await confirmation of my memory of the Recover debacle or any arguments against. My mind is open, but damned if I don't think I'm right on this.

I believe you are talking about this answer on their Recover 'Q and A' thread on Reddit,

https://old.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/13j5cna/introducing_ledger_recover_answering_your/jkea6xw/

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The secure element chip in the device is a little computer that is completely programmable. The program that runs on this chip can access and manipulate your seed, so obviously the security surrounding this code is very very important.

There are strong security mechanisms in place that ensure that only code that is written by Ledger can run on your device, and that any code with access to the seed cannot be modified by an attacker.

I did not extensively research the way this works but having the Seed Phrase split up into 3 fragments and sharing one of them with one different backup service means communicating the three fragments over the internet. Which if only 2 out of 3 are necessary to recover the funds, it means only 2 of them need to be exposed for the seed to become compromised. The software being closed source, how do we know these fragments are in fact not being relayed to the three companies THROUGH Ledger servers in the first place.

I do not know how it can even be guaranteed that the three companies do not communicate with each other either. What happens if the identity of a future FBI wanted criminal is stored together with their seed fragments by these companies? Only 2 out of 3 companies have to comply with FBI to seize the seed.

Anyway. The debate should stop at 'closed source'. Nobody knows what the hell is going on behind that code and Ledger users rely ONLY on Trust. Plain and simple.

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My second slot which #30 won but I don't know if can be added to the winners list since I didn't add the link of my constructive post as you requested although the links are there but I forgot, if I won't be consider because I didn't follow the instruction that you gave then it is fine maybe next time, thanks.

You should have followed my post where I quoted you. Better luck next time.

Quote from: bitmover on April 12, 2026, 01:02:41 PM

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 04:36:25 PM

I am not writing positively about it. I am just correcting all the wrong information that you and other users are writing in this topic which is putting other users at risk.

Ledger is more secure than any hotwallet. Ledger seed cannot be extract without your physical consent.

I am just following the top security practices, while you are recommending the opposite.

The argument might have emancipated from my post, I think to provide clarity there is never any hot wallet been used as an hot wallet will ever be better than a cold wallet like hard ware wallet which categorically ledger falls into it. This is not the basis of my statement I am emphasizing on electrum wallet been used as a cold wallet which actually is by using an airgapped wallet, for me it’s the better option only if set up well most especially if the option is against ledger wallet due to some cons as not so clear mode of recovery and also closed.

And rightly yes as you have said, the electrum wallet doubling as a cold wallet actually has its risk because if it’s not set up well like the device isn’t actually fully airgapped then it’s simply risky because one is just using a hot wallet portraying as a cold wallet, but if everything is perfectly done I don’t think ledger which is also a cold wallet is better.

Would i recommend this electrum as a cold wallet to a total newbie? I will say no rather they opt for options like buying an hardware wallet because I think they would definitely not get the right set up as it’s someway a little bit technical to set up

Quote from: bitmover on April 12, 2026, 01:02:41 PM

Quote from: Laura Mitchell on April 10, 2026, 11:57:14 AM

Seen a few similar opinions about Ledger. There are some fair points, especially regarding trust and firmware, but calling it a bad choice overall is already too much. Nevertheless, it’s still much safer than leaving funds on exchanges.

You can't prove that Recovery doesn't allow internet access to your wallet even if you don't enable that feature.

It's closed source firmware.

A cold wallet is a device where the keys can't be reached over the internet. Ledger created an API to allow internet access to keys on a Ledger device, and they baked that API into their firmware. Even if you don't enable it, it's a danger to your wallet.

People are going to downplay that danger until it causes them to lose their coins. Then, those same people will be screaming from the rooftops about how they weren't warned about the dangers of hardware wallets having key extraction baked into the firmware.

The real problem is that most people don't understand hardware wallets. They think the hardware wallet connects to the internet. Nope. The only thing your hardware wallet should be able to share with an internet-connected device (your phone, computer, etc) is your public keys and transaction signatures. Your hardware wallet should never be able to share your private keys with internet-connected devices. That's dangerous.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 02:51:44 PM

Thanks bitz.io!
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Congrats for your win! If I had placed one more bet of about 1,400 SATS, I would have won a prize too. Unfortunately, because I forgot the deadline, I ended up in 52nd place in this tournament where the top 50 winners received prizes. I’m really upset with myself.

I also saw this, which is the same tournament, has just started:

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This is my bet.

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Quote from: bitmover on April 12, 2026, 03:13:56 PM

I don't work for ledger.

I know you don't, I wrote that you just sound like their CEO Lord of The Rings who uses the same expressions when talking about recovery or database leaks.

Quote from: bitmover on April 12, 2026, 03:13:56 PM

You just mentioned that a hot wallet is safer than ledger.

With all the knowledge you have, I find very strange you spread false information like this. You know this is wrong. This is precisely what you said I did: you put others at risk.
~snip~

I still think so, any hot wallet that is properly created, protected with a unique password, and whose seed and password are stored offline is more secure than a device that has features like Ledger. You are one of the few members who still writes positively about that company and their devices.

Quote from: bitmover on April 12, 2026, 03:13:56 PM

About that leaks, I am sure basically every company out there leaked some data already. Just yesterday I received an email that booking leaked user data.

Do you think it is the same if your data is leaked from a company that provides a streaming service or a store where you have a loyalty card compared to data from a company that manufactures and sells devices for storing private keys of cryptocurrencies? Hundreds of thousands of people who bought their devices became potential targets of online and physical attacks, because all data was published, including phone numbers, home addresses and full names and e-mail addresses.

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Quote from: bitmover on Today at 01:41:55 AM

Also, you have to physically click the device to authorize it. They cant just extract your seed magically without your consent.

I agree that this is a bad feature. But it is an optional service. It is also paid. You need to confirm the action by physically tapping your Ledger device.

Buyers might not consider Ledger Recover a bad service and those who aren't overly concerned with reading code, privacy, or even how to store wallet seeds, this could be a feature many are looking for. If House Bill 380 is passed, Ledger will be the only hardware wallet that complies with it.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 01:41:55 AM

Quote from: PrivacyG on April 12, 2026, 07:38:46 PM

Quote from: bitmover on April 12, 2026, 03:13:56 PM

bUt ledger is still a hardware wallet and is safer than any hot wallet .

Debatable. Back when Ledger claimed their seed could not be extracted from the device it could have been considered that way. When you realize that was actually a lie and the Seed can now be extracted from it and stored at THIRD PARTIES, you are naive to think that is safer than any hot wallet. If they lied about the seed never leaving the device, what makes you think the closed source side of the device is not doing any malicious things behind your back?

That is not how it works.

This is a paid feature. You have to actually pay to use it , it is a subscription.

Also, you have to physically click the device to authorize it. They cant just extract your seed magically without your consent.

I agree that this is a bad feature. But it is an optional service. It is also paid. You need to confirm the action by physically tapping your Ledger device.

Too much hate and misinformation around it.
https://support.ledger.com/article/9579368109597-zd?redirect=false

As the saying goes “every trickster meets their match.”

It is true that this is the paid service and that you must authorize the extraction, but by acknowledging thatSEED can be extracted , they are effectively providing assistance to attackers who may use reverse engineering to create modified firmware capable of doing this without your consent. In addition, there is no guarantee that some former employee would not retain the knowledge of how to perform this extraction.

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Quote from: bitmover on April 12, 2026, 02:37:43 PM

Quote from: CryptoVoyager24 on April 11, 2026, 03:27:54 PM

Buying a $200 titanium hw wallet with bluetooth and a color screen isnt security. Its paying for an expanded attack surface. Marketing brainwashed everyone into thinking isolation costs money. It doesnt. It just takes discipline.

The golden rule is simple. If the operating system has network drivers enabled and touches the internet, your private keys do not go on it. Period.

Heres the actual $0 cypherpunk baseline. Grab a cheap blank usb stick and flash tails os on it. Tails runs purely in ram and gets wiped the second u pull the plug. Take an old beater laptop and literally physically remove the wifi card from the motherboard. Boot tails completely offline. Open up electrum which comes preinstalled, generate your seed, and stamp it in metal. Your cold storage is done.

This is just misinformation.

99.99% of people losing funds are using this advice. It is not easy or safe to handle your own cyber security. Buy a professional hardware that will do that for you.

Hardware wallets are safe. Trezor is the best one. Pay $100 and have security for decades. They are cheap and safe.

$60 would even do the magic, the result is all over the internet, as there are cheap hardware wallets that costs less than $100, this is a new year also, many promo sales will occur again this year, so if anyone has a bigger plan in mind to go for the higher end hardware wallet they can wait for those sales to happen again.

Many beginners can't do the Tail OS thing themselves, I guess OP have no beginners close to them for once, if not he should be able to figure out that they always have no clue and they easily fumble with everything they touch, Tails OS / Crypto wallet is best for people who are good with tech normally, there is no better recommendation than a hardware wallet.

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Uma coisa é ter 0.005 btc marcados de roubo. Ai é facil resolver.

Mas se você tiver 8000 btc ligados a um hack, fica extremamente complicado limpar isso. Se vc jogar 1000 btc em um mixer, por maior que ele seja, ele vai te devolver boa parte das suas moedas de volta.

Entao, as dificuldades começam quando ocorre aumento da eescala.e em geral , quando alguém se da ao trabalho de marca e como alto AML um hack, sao coisas grandes

limpar 8k BTCs seria epico kkk. Acho que praticamente impossivel.

Mas numero "humanos" ate uns 50 BTC ,(que ja é uma grana significativa) , acho que as exchange decentralizada multichain resolveriam. Vc vai trocando de blockchain, indo pra outros (300 mil blockchains layers 2 etc) , e vai trocando. Muitos de BTC convertem com facilidade por exemplo pro BNBChain, Optimist, AvaxChain, por ai vai.

Esses caras já pulam de mixers para exchanges.. olha o caso da BTC-e.. o fundador (Alexander Vinnik) foi preso nos EUA anos atrás por lavagem de dinheiro, etc..

Estimam que uns 300 mil bitcoins da Mt. Gox passaram pela exchange dele.. dentre outros fundos do tipo.

Se parar para pensar, era um mixer, mas com roupa de exchange.. hoje em dia deve ter outras (também vale para cassinos) que fazem esse mesmo serviço..

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on November 27, 2025, 06:34:40 PM

Pois é, eu também imaginava que eles ficariam marcados para todo o sempre, portanto seria apenas questão de tempo até que todos os bitcoins existentes ficasse marcados.

sei que existem carteiras de roubo e tudo mais que existem pessoas monitorando a anos, e se quem tem as chaves dessa carteira fizesse essa mistura, "acabam-se" os problemas? porque então não fazem isso? talvez por ninguém e ou nenhum serviço queira pegar essas moedas para misturar? por medo de perseguição ou represárias?

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 03:13:56 PM

bUt ledger is still a hardware wallet and is safer than any hot wallet .

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 03:13:56 PM

About that leaks, I am sure basically every company out there leaked some data already. Just yesterday I received an email that booking leaked user data.

That is not a good excuse at all. In fact. When so many companies practice such a bad security and get their data bases leaked and sold away, it is the companies that actually care we should be looking at.

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I am looking for a website where I can buy cryptocurrencies using a bank card (debit card). It is important that the platform accepts users from sanctioned countries such as Libya and Syria.

I think you're going to find it rather difficult if not impossible, unless you find such a service in those specific countries. Any bank card processing service in the US (and likely Europe) will flag the transactions and prevent the vendor from receiving the funds. If the tranches are large (over $600,) they'll also get flagged for potential fraud, and cause the vendor all kinds of trouble.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 02:40:05 PM

Have you tried Bisq?

I don't think he's going to find a Bisq peer that accepts bank cards, and even if he did he's only going to run into the issue I pointed out above.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 02:37:43 PM

99.99% of people losing funds are using this advice. It is not easy or safe to handle your own cyber security. Buy a professional hardware that will do that for you.

Hardware wallets are safe. Trezor is the best one. Pay $100 and have security for decades. They are cheap and safe.

There are many hardware wallets from open source to close source. Even open source, hardware wallets are different in quality too, so let's choose best one to buy and use for long term storage.

People sometimes try to save money but they don't put safety of their fund as a highest priority that deserves to be assigned a budget for purchasing a hardware wallet to use. They want to save small money, then lose a big fund eventually.

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Quote from: bitmover on Today at 01:02:41 PM

I think people are over reacting about ledger flaws, which exist. Specially about personal data leaks. And the ledger recovery feature.
~snip~

You sound like one of the top people working for that company who have the same attitude, regardless of the fact that they are responsible for leaking the data of hundreds of thousands of their clients who have been victims of every possible attack that exists online for years. Besides, to believe someone who claimed that seed cannot be extracted from their devices, and then suddenly that changes overnight is really strange.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not if it puts others at risk - Ledger devices are a risk that should be avoided at all costs.

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Quote from: bitmover on April 11, 2026, 06:20:57 PM

Looks like there was some kind of insider information leak

https://www.bitget.com/news/detail/12560605349532

What kind of insider activity would that be? Someone from bloomberg? Someone from US/Iran goverment?? Quite crazy.

Insider traders should be heavily punished, not only lose their bet money.

The suspicion about insider trading is getting more attention. There is also a strong indication that the leaks are from US government officials. At least Iran didn't have the information about the toppling of Venezuelan President Maduro. Meanwhile, some suspicious accounts made money from that prediction. The US legislators' concern that top government officials are using nonpublic information for financial benefit, also shows that US government officials might be behind these insider trading.

It's worth noting that when Trump announced the launch of his meme token, there were also suspicious addresses buying it for millions of dollars long before the hype even began. My point is that insiders have been around for a long time, even before geopolitical events on the polymarket became a hot topic. So, it should come as no surprise that there are insiders among the top echelons of the current US government officials or their inner circles who don’t particularly hide their actions and seem to feel a sense of impunity. Most likely, as long as Trump is in power, no one will be punished for this.

Quote from: bitmover on April 11, 2026, 06:13:18 PM

Quote from: nc50lc on April 11, 2026, 04:05:14 AM

-snip-

I think that even DEX do not offer such security, even when connected to the hardware wallet.

You need to approve the transaction to send the money to the smartcontract. And the smartcontract can be hacked and you can lose money by interacting with smartcontracts (actually that isn't rare, and there a lot of cases if you make a google search).

And that's what I'm talking about in the second part of my reply, as you can see I mentioned that in that third sentence.
The gist is, the private keys are protected by the HW, but the approvals should be revoked after the user finished with the swap.

My reply isn't totally about security though,
I was answering virasog's question about connecting an exchange to a HW.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 06:20:57 PM

Update:
DT 1
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2. 203: HostFat (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (0) 308 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
3. 11425: gmaxwell (Trust: +13 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (14) 9516 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
4. 30747: Vod (Trust: +28 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (5) 2606 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
5. 33156: vapourminer (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 4897 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
6. 55384: Foxpup (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (13) 2768 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
7. 64507: philipma1957 (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 10706 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
8. 65636: babo (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 4591 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
9. 78147: Cyrus (Trust: +24 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (19) 2743 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
10. 84521: Welsh (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (19) 3408 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
11. 84866: ibminer (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 2622 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
12. 85033: d5000 (Trust: neutral) (DT1! (2) 9505 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
13. 112493: Pmalek (Trust: neutral) (DT1! (1) 8604 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
14. 113670: Mitchell (Trust: +47 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (20) 1955 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
15. 123824: albon (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 1927 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
16. 131333: wwzsocki (Trust: +15 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (1) 1519 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
17. 137185: jeremypwr (Trust: +59 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (17) 6189 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
18. 140582: gbianchi (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 2459 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
19. 140584: EFS (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2078 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
20. 158444: hybridsole (Trust: +19 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 480 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
21. 164749: stompix (Trust: neutral) (DT1! (11) 6531 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
22. 164822: hilariousandco (Trust: +30 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (30) 1879 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
23. 189967: buckrogers (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 195 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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25. 206143: Lesbian Cow (Trust: +47 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 757 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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29. 300014: DaveF (Trust: +32 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (19) 6703 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
30. 314792: examplens (Trust: +8 / =5 / -0) (DT1! (26) 3568 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
31. 317618: nutildah (Trust: +22 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (32) 9734 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
32. 350580: irfan_pak10 (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (3) 713 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
33. 355846: yahoo62278 (Trust: +38 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (23) 4279 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
34. 364070: bitbollo (Trust: +19 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 3619 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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37. 407174: klarki (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (2) 4427 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
38. 459836: LoyceV (Trust: +33 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (61) 20520 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
39. 487418: The Sceptical Chymist (Trust: +31 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (30) 6317 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
40. 521899: SFR10 (Trust: +17 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 3023 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
41. 557798: TryNinja (Trust: +13 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (9) 9504 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
42. 754818: holydarkness (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 1363 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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61. 1247226: logfiles (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2255 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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66. 1554927: bitmover (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 7372 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
67. 1582324: DdmrDdmr (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 11289 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
68. 1634314: shahzadafzal (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 3193 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
69. 1668017: anonymousminer (Trust: +42 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 1416 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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74. 1878246: abhiseshakana (Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (1) 2473 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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76. 1982152: lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +30 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (30) 5529 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
77. 2003859: DireWolfM14 (Trust: +20 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (22) 5625 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
78. 2015418: notblox1 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 1544 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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81. 2477002: inspace (Trust: +5 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1270 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
82. 2497429: jokers10 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 3946 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
83. 2519096: Awaklara (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 828 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
84. 2652924: geophphreigh (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 1143 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
85. 2654005: zasad@ (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (7) 5512 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
86. 2658890: Rikafip (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (25) 7874 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
87. 2709122: Etranger (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1862 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
88. 2739424: NotATether (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (10) 9606 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
89. 2739454: Stalker22 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1552 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
90. 2775483: BlackHatCoiner (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 9628 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
91. 2776678: Charles-Tim (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (4) 6287 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
92. 2796662: Lillominato89 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1242 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
93. 2836461: Free Market Capitalist (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (6) 3324 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
94. 3442614: YodasRedRocket (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 647 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
95. 3486361: PowerGlove (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 7006 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)

DT 2
1. 3: satoshi (Trust: +45 / =0 / -0) (8488 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. 4: sirius (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (884 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
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7. 2786: Pieter Wuille (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (198 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
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Full list^* (55 MB) (not limited to 120 days, 2574 Merit transactions added since my previous update).

theymos' data (human readable format, including usernames and post titles)
Sample
On Fri 03 Apr 2026 04:38:02 AM CEST, yhiaali3 (history) sent 1 Merit to AnisEverRise (history) for مفهوم "الرزق" وعلاقته بالبيتكوين: رؤية فل&#1587.
On Fri 03 Apr 2026 04:37:16 AM CEST, TypoTonic (history) sent 1 Merit to PowerGlove (history) for Re: Hidden pages/ features on the forum.
On Fri 03 Apr 2026 04:23:10 AM CEST, TypoTonic (history) sent 1 Merit to ABCbits (history) for Re: AI guidelines.
On Fri 03 Apr 2026 04:06:44 AM CEST, Cyrus (history) sent 9 Merit to FFrankie (history) for [AUCTION] Pieces of 6 poker chip set, split key.
On Fri 03 Apr 2026 04:06:27 AM CEST, JayJuanGee (history) sent 1 Merit to Ashawowo(OS) (history) for Re: JJG’s Outline of Bitcoin Investment Ideas.
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On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:28:54 PM CET, AdolfinWolf (history) sent 1 Merit to Lutpin (history) for Re: What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:54 PM CET, Dahman El_Harrachi (history) sent 1 Merit to theymos (history) for Re: Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?).
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:22 PM CET, Tyrantt (history) sent 5 Merit to AdolfinWolf (history) for What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:13 PM CET, Last of the V8s (history) sent 2 Merit to Rosewater Foundation (history) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:12:21 PM CET, theymos (history) sent 1 Merit to AdolfinWolf (history) for What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
Full list (585 MB)

Usernames to go with theymos' data
Sample
0: deMerit (Bitcoin Forum) (history) earned: 0 Merit.
3: satoshi (history) earned: 8488 Merit.
4: sirius (history) earned: 884 Merit.
10: Xunie (history) earned: 1 Merit.
11: madhatter (history) earned: 5 Merit.
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3752009: toake (history) earned: 1 Merit.
3752048: DeFCoN Network (history) earned: 3 Merit.
3752224: Misa Amane (history) earned: 7 Merit.
3752326: asidonline (history) earned: 8 Merit.
3752336: Hoke1996 (history) earned: 1 Merit.
Full list^* (10 MB)

Usernames machine readable
Sample

Code:

0: deMerit (Bitcoin Forum)
3: satoshi
4: sirius
10: Xunie
11: madhatter
12: nanaimogold
13: SmokeTooMuch
14: The Madhatter
21: AgoraMutual
23: 1 currency now
24: dwdollar
26: NewLibertyStandard
27: riX
28: Sabunir
29: giik
30: BitcoinFX
31: Suggester
33: m0mchil
34: BlueSky
35: theymos
37: soultcer
40: xc
42: ec
49: Cdecker
51: DannyM
97: dsg
101: Goldstein
143: laszlo
145: ducki2p
146: Brandon
163: Karmicads
182: Derrick
183: hugolp
198: allinvain
203: HostFat
206: teppy
217: SirArthur
224: Gavin Andresen
237: lachesis
241: QuantumMechanic
244: nixoid
251: wobber
262: chaord
267: virtualcoin
269: Bitcoiner
270: llama
271: Timo Y
274: limikael
284: joey.rich
288: Stone Man
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3748490: luthen
3748492: CryptoLogixBot
3748579: Der_Gegenwert
3748655: deX001
3748702: Batractoxin
3748768: ghoulMAX
3748978: Meggie Leen
3749023: JetSeason
3749052: cezar1
3749110: PocketAurora
3749153: yowbow
3749316: Carl_DKJ
3749438: Zagal
3749546: SatsPH
3749590: Rex1971
3749597: Allicedreim123
3749642: Julienbxl
3749650: Wexler3K
3749790: Strixc2
3749819: Jzbond65
3749913: BowClawblaw
3749923: BobClawblaw
3749937: ostap1706
3749956: funinfo
3750034: (BTC)
3750208: BambooSynergy
3750258: burnchat
3750483: RealKral
3750567: freddy_mujik
3750660: Lord_of_Six_Seven
3750739: Aventas
3750779: Bitsolo.me
3750843: crypto-vegas
3751023: BitaniaExchange
3751038: sats2usd
3751069: katzamit99
3751114: Cassius55
3751274: bisasam
3751306: broccolo9
3751426: REAleksij
3751510: mike.io
3751516: IgnotusNemo
3751609: Kasynoir
3751662: GFOXOG
3751838: David2026$
3752009: toake
3752048: DeFCoN Network
3752224: Misa Amane
3752326: asidonline
3752336: Hoke1996

Full list (2 MB)

UserIDs, sent Merit and earned Merit machine readable
Sample

Code:

0:569:0
3:0:8488
4:0:884
10:0:1
11:0:5
12:0:1
13:3:76
14:0:11
21:0:2
23:0:1
24:0:9
26:0:19
27:0:54
28:0:13
29:0:4
30:380:800
31:0:1
33:0:27
34:0:4
35:14349:14368
37:0:6
40:0:4
42:0:69
49:0:5
51:0:2
97:0:2
101:0:2
143:0:2483
145:0:1
146:0:4
163:0:21
182:1:0
183:9:1
198:2:87
203:68:308
206:0:14
217:3:36
224:0:1484
237:0:5
241:0:9
244:0:1
251:0:1
262:0:1
267:0:2
269:0:1
270:0:52
271:0:1
274:0:42
284:0:6
288:0:10
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3748490:0:7
3748492:0:1
3748579:0:2
3748655:0:1
3748702:0:1
3748768:0:1
3748978:0:5
3749023:0:1
3749052:0:2
3749110:0:3
3749153:0:1
3749316:0:1
3749438:0:3
3749546:0:2
3749590:0:9
3749597:0:7
3749642:0:2
3749650:0:3
3749790:0:1
3749819:0:1
3749913:0:2
3749923:0:4
3749937:0:1
3749956:0:1
3750034:27:55
3750208:0:1
3750258:0:1
3750483:0:1
3750567:0:1
3750660:0:1
3750739:0:2
3750779:0:1
3750843:0:2
3751023:0:4
3751038:0:2
3751069:0:2
3751114:0:9
3751274:0:2
3751306:0:2
3751426:0:5
3751510:0:1
3751516:0:3
3751609:0:1
3751662:0:1
3751838:0:1
3752009:0:1
3752048:0:3
3752224:0:7
3752326:0:8
3752336:0:1

Full list (1 MB)

Total number of users who received 1 or more Merit: 51180
Sample

Code:

1. 20520 Merit received by LoyceV (#459836) from 1107 unique users in 11862 transactions
2. 20237 Merit received by fillippone (#1852120) from 745 unique users in 11101 transactions
3. 18891 Merit received by o_e_l_e_o (#1188543) from 801 unique users in 9985 transactions
4. 15309 Merit received by El duderino_ (#1067333) from 478 unique users in 8822 transactions
5. 14368 Merit received by theymos (#35) from 1223 unique users in 5162 transactions
6. 13226 Merit received by JayJuanGee (#252510) from 716 unique users in 8786 transactions
7. 12156 Merit received by icopress (#1137579) from 583 unique users in 4626 transactions
8. 11957 Merit received by Symmetrick (#2627711) from 773 unique users in 6854 transactions
9. 11695 Merit received by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) from 491 unique users in 6478 transactions
10. 11289 Merit received by DdmrDdmr (#1582324) from 653 unique users in 6453 transactions
11. 11279 Merit received by pooya87 (#379147) from 604 unique users in 6560 transactions
12. 11063 Merit received by cygan (#27470) from 506 unique users in 5755 transactions
13. 10706 Merit received by philipma1957 (#64507) from 581 unique users in 6143 transactions
14. 9945 Merit received by xhomerx10 (#120694) from 330 unique users in 5118 transactions
15. 9734 Merit received by nutildah (#317618) from 642 unique users in 5288 transactions
16. 9628 Merit received by BlackHatCoiner (#2775483) from 458 unique users in 4799 transactions
17. 9623 Merit received by GazetaBitcoin (#1285797) from 397 unique users in 3346 transactions
18. 9606 Merit received by NotATether (#2739424) from 529 unique users in 4463 transactions
19. 9516 Merit received by gmaxwell (#11425) from 335 unique users in 3429 transactions
20. 9505 Merit received by d5000 (#85033) from 437 unique users in 5198 transactions
21. 9504 Merit received by TryNinja (#557798) from 542 unique users in 4301 transactions
22. 8888 Merit received by ABCbits (#359716) from 538 unique users in 4812 transactions
23. 8610 Merit received by dkbit98 (#1410401) from 454 unique users in 5110 transactions
24. 8604 Merit received by Pmalek (#112493) from 570 unique users in 5069 transactions
25. 8533 Merit received by suchmoon (#234771) from 573 unique users in 4853 transactions
26. 8530 Merit received by nc50lc (#1237156) from 404 unique users in 4436 transactions
27. 8488 Merit received by satoshi (#3) from 407 unique users in 901 transactions
28. 7874 Merit received by Rikafip (#2658890) from 457 unique users in 4346 transactions
29. 7569 Merit received by 1miau (#2143453) from 490 unique users in 4117 transactions
30. 7372 Merit received by bitmover (#1554927) from 582 unique users in 4386 transactions
31. 7143 Merit received by mikeywith (#2033515) from 404 unique users in 3648 transactions
32. 7006 Merit received by PowerGlove (#3486361) from 231 unique users in 1800 transactions
33. 6703 Merit received by DaveF (#300014) from 377 unique users in 3380 transactions
34. 6676 Merit received by achow101 (#290195) from 276 unique users in 3018 transactions
35. 6668 Merit received by AlcoHoDL (#998490) from 198 unique users in 3865 transactions
36. 6641 Merit received by hosemary (#995810) from 387 unique users in 3624 transactions
37. 6618 Merit received by Hhampuz (#881377) from 941 unique users in 4290 transactions
38. 6531 Merit received by stompix (#164749) from 483 unique users in 3626 transactions
39. 6444 Merit received by cAPSLOCK (#35501) from 227 unique users in 3701 transactions
40. 6317 Merit received by The Sceptical Chymist (#487418) from 625 unique users in 3551 transactions
41. 6287 Merit received by Charles-Tim (#2776678) from 421 unique users in 3664 transactions
42. 6283 Merit received by Lucius (#533583) from 525 unique users in 3662 transactions
43. 6274 Merit received by joker_josue (#97582) from 335 unique users in 2964 transactions
44. 6216 Merit received by OmegaStarScream (#375981) from 416 unique users in 3403 transactions
45. 6189 Merit received by jeremypwr (#137185) from 220 unique users in 3617 transactions
46. 6119 Merit received by NeuroticFish (#257071) from 458 unique users in 3431 transactions
47. 6057 Merit received by n0nce (#3373858) from 195 unique users in 2634 transactions
48. 5992 Merit received by Hueristic (#198573) from 204 unique users in 3468 transactions
49. 5625 Merit received by DireWolfM14 (#2003859) from 388 unique users in 2662 transactions
50. 5529 Merit received by lovesmayfamilis (#1982152) from 451 unique users in 3896 transactions
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51131. 1 Merit received by 1ceStorm (#2342907) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51132. 1 Merit received by 1ce (#1019784) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51133. 1 Merit received by 1camtron (#1236351) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51134. 1 Merit received by 1apayment (#1855631) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51135. 1 Merit received by 1907KFY (#1935217) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51136. 1 Merit received by 16xypjnxlrew (#2705665) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51137. 1 Merit received by 16tonn (#3560052) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51138. 1 Merit received by 15horses1donkey (#560958) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51139. 1 Merit received by 15519028115Q (#3575647) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51140. 1 Merit received by 15262kk (#291561) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51141. 1 Merit received by 14z4rus (#3669471) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51142. 1 Merit received by 1453ist (#1431126) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51143. 1 Merit received by 1453eko (#1431103) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51144. 1 Merit received by 13Winter13 (#919666) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51145. 1 Merit received by 13ex07 (#1207068) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51146. 1 Merit received by 13dizel (#1208678) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51147. 1 Merit received by 1357924680 (#333305) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51148. 1 Merit received by 12tribes (#1221082) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51149. 1 Merit received by 12assa34 (#1729394) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51150. 1 Merit received by 123tm (#848549) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51151. 1 Merit received by 123pogi123 (#2252156) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51152. 1 Merit received by 123exo123 (#1919155) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51153. 1 Merit received by 112_blockchain (#2081987) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51154. 1 Merit received by 11:11pas (#1306783) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51155. 1 Merit received by 1083ivangod (#1952712) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51156. 1 Merit received by 101Crypta (#1287691) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51157. 1 Merit received by 100x (#80115) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51158. 1 Merit received by 100steeze (#3637720) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51159. 1 Merit received by 100%_Shared_FreeBitco.in (#2531436) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51160. 1 Merit received by 100monet (#323057) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51161. 1 Merit received by 1000x (#3509491) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51162. 1 Merit received by 1000usdforwife (#1547718) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51163. 1 Merit received by 1000alasan (#2458354) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51164. 1 Merit received by 0xMuted (#3713926) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51165. 1 Merit received by 0xBrian (#2625170) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51166. 1 Merit received by 0xb100d (#1342964) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51167. 1 Merit received by 0x77 (#3316521) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51168. 1 Merit received by 0x1Knowledge (#2000899) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51169. 1 Merit received by 0vx (#2805438) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51170. 1 Merit received by 0RajA0 (#1151527) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51171. 1 Merit received by 0nion (#3614135) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51172. 1 Merit received by 0bit (#493268) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51173. 1 Merit received by 063Myxa (#1432563) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51174. 1 Merit received by 05btc (#2050202) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51175. 1 Merit received by 00RedBlack00 (#2527578) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51176. 1 Merit received by 00hello (#2471124) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51177. 1 Merit received by $--Perfect. Exchange-$. (#1140007) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51178. 1 Merit received by $imple$imon (#2060672) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51179. 1 Merit received by $BitMakeR$ (#1166812) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51180. 0 Merit received by gwsukabokepjepang (#2536607) from 2 unique users in 2 transactions

Full list (5 MB)

Total number of users who gave away 1 or more sMerit: 26591
Sample

Code:

1. 73172 Merit sent by El duderino_ (#1067333) to 903 unique users in 12717 transactions
2. 68057 Merit sent by fillippone (#1852120) to 2198 unique users in 29346 transactions
3. 66824 Merit sent by LoyceV (#459836) to 3325 unique users in 17655 transactions
4. 59304 Merit sent by JayJuanGee (#252510) to 3592 unique users in 57101 transactions
5. 58522 Merit sent by ABCbits (#359716) to 4619 unique users in 33538 transactions
6. 50360 Merit sent by vapourminer (#33156) to 3686 unique users in 34856 transactions
7. 43923 Merit sent by hugeblack (#1059082) to 2851 unique users in 15516 transactions
8. 41808 Merit sent by suchmoon (#234771) to 2887 unique users in 9159 transactions
9. 38215 Merit sent by DdmrDdmr (#1582324) to 2961 unique users in 30997 transactions
10. 37703 Merit sent by xandry (#382413) to 2518 unique users in 14027 transactions
11. 34555 Merit sent by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) to 1585 unique users in 13910 transactions
12. 33333 Merit sent by Symmetrick (#2627711) to 2254 unique users in 16803 transactions
13. 32262 Merit sent by The Sceptical Chymist (#487418) to 1477 unique users in 10339 transactions
14. 30530 Merit sent by klarki (#407174) to 2112 unique users in 10698 transactions
15. 28883 Merit sent by EFS (#140584) to 1431 unique users in 7562 transactions
16. 28011 Merit sent by Welsh (#84521) to 1686 unique users in 6611 transactions
17. 26646 Merit sent by o_e_l_e_o (#1188543) to 2510 unique users in 9360 transactions
18. 25819 Merit sent by 1miau (#2143453) to 1315 unique users in 11613 transactions
19. 23572 Merit sent by qwk (#24140) to 603 unique users in 6457 transactions
20. 22991 Merit sent by pooya87 (#379147) to 1377 unique users in 9491 transactions
21. 22424 Merit sent by dbshck (#153634) to 1314 unique users in 6442 transactions
22. 17485 Merit sent by NotATether (#2739424) to 1726 unique users in 3955 transactions
23. 16219 Merit sent by Vispilio (#982288) to 746 unique users in 6008 transactions
24. 16152 Merit sent by Halab (#1053119) to 1987 unique users in 6559 transactions
25. 16081 Merit sent by nutildah (#317618) to 1727 unique users in 7394 transactions
26. 15756 Merit sent by Julien_Olynpic (#1166480) to 535 unique users in 7412 transactions
27. 15457 Merit sent by Pmalek (#112493) to 1174 unique users in 9060 transactions
28. 15201 Merit sent by Foxpup (#55384) to 642 unique users in 5475 transactions
29. 14524 Merit sent by bitmover (#1554927) to 1303 unique users in 8234 transactions
30. 14349 Merit sent by theymos (#35) to 1104 unique users in 1757 transactions
31. 14048 Merit sent by philipma1957 (#64507) to 1665 unique users in 7335 transactions
32. 13296 Merit sent by krogothmanhattan (#1000199) to 660 unique users in 3607 transactions
33. 13282 Merit sent by CryptopreneurBrainboss (#1052091) to 1339 unique users in 7382 transactions
34. 13256 Merit sent by paxmao (#1192397) to 1305 unique users in 5879 transactions
35. 13242 Merit sent by OgNasty (#18321) to 3024 unique users in 7086 transactions
36. 13071 Merit sent by dkbit98 (#1410401) to 1135 unique users in 7972 transactions
37. 12972 Merit sent by NeuroticFish (#257071) to 824 unique users in 6104 transactions
38. 12893 Merit sent by BlackHatCoiner (#2775483) to 830 unique users in 4236 transactions
39. 12114 Merit sent by chimk (#1202061) to 757 unique users in 4369 transactions
40. 11333 Merit sent by d5000 (#85033) to 1161 unique users in 6264 transactions
41. 10543 Merit sent by mikeywith (#2033515) to 545 unique users in 3954 transactions
42. 8734 Merit sent by DarkStar_ (#507936) to 971 unique users in 2196 transactions
43. 8712 Merit sent by bones261 (#452769) to 1032 unique users in 4239 transactions
44. 8291 Merit sent by Coolcryptovator (#1980983) to 1043 unique users in 3603 transactions
45. 8256 Merit sent by Buchi-88 (#204821) to 755 unique users in 7222 transactions
46. 8100 Merit sent by Hueristic (#198573) to 577 unique users in 7015 transactions
47. 8089 Merit sent by BobLawblaw (#569455) to 329 unique users in 3303 transactions
48. 7978 Merit sent by OmegaStarScream (#375981) to 949 unique users in 3492 transactions
49. 7686 Merit sent by babo (#65636) to 515 unique users in 6092 transactions
50. 7185 Merit sent by hosemary (#995810) to 517 unique users in 4059 transactions
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26542. 1 Merit sent by 3acaga (#1232502) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26543. 1 Merit sent by 360llqzc (#1300924) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26544. 1 Merit sent by 333btc (#3450760) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26545. 1 Merit sent by 3227jw (#2592839) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26546. 1 Merit sent by 2x2coindwarf (#2686612) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26547. 1 Merit sent by 2x25BT (#990097) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26548. 1 Merit sent by 2drive (#1304704) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26549. 1 Merit sent by 2andahalfBTC (#1142164) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26550. 1 Merit sent by 27QVUTZj8rgZP1 (#662730) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26551. 1 Merit sent by 27aume (#1001865) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26552. 1 Merit sent by 2342q6tegw (#1212678) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26553. 1 Merit sent by 214missy (#1285563) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26554. 1 Merit sent by 212fox (#1342293) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26555. 1 Merit sent by 1xbitpatnar (#3475604) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26556. 1 Merit sent by 1r0n (#1252002) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26557. 1 Merit sent by 1pool Ltd. (#2062862) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26558. 1 Merit sent by 1melyun (#543052) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26559. 1 Merit sent by 1cyrax00 (#964210) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26560. 1 Merit sent by 1CryptoSmurf (#1352746) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26561. 1 Merit sent by 1chempion123 (#1346880) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26562. 1 Merit sent by 1cak (#1136856) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26563. 1 Merit sent by 1amCrypt0 (#933826) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26564. 1 Merit sent by 19Nov16 (#921267) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26565. 1 Merit sent by 19nataliya12 (#1873934) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26566. 1 Merit sent by 19dimasik77 (#881779) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26567. 1 Merit sent by 1971ECPT (#3553473) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26568. 1 Merit sent by 17buratin (#1187494) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26569. 1 Merit sent by 13ex07 (#1207068) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26570. 1 Merit sent by 13Charlie (#76987) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26571. 1 Merit sent by 12retepnat34 (#1053271) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26572. 1 Merit sent by 10yearsolder (#1094878) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26573. 1 Merit sent by 10sat (#1162504) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26574. 1 Merit sent by 10casproj (#3515598) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26575. 1 Merit sent by 10BTCaDay (#396522) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26576. 1 Merit sent by 100kk (#1316426) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26577. 1 Merit sent by 100eth (#1324600) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26578. 1 Merit sent by 0xBitcoins (#2205183) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26579. 1 Merit sent by 0xBet (#3572636) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26580. 1 Merit sent by 0x0333 (#1913654) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26581. 1 Merit sent by 0vn1 (#1216048) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26582. 1 Merit sent by 0virtual (#1244555) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26583. 1 Merit sent by 0id1d (#3600764) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26584. 1 Merit sent by 0Alvaren0 (#2020991) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26585. 1 Merit sent by 01BTC (#1756786) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26586. 1 Merit sent by 01bits (#1629161) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26587. 1 Merit sent by 00HasH (#841746) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26588. 1 Merit sent by 00DKM@ (#1311705) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26589. 1 Merit sent by 00.00WIB (#3392171) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26590. 1 Merit sent by $@to$h! (#1183184) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26591. 1 Merit sent by $Talker (#1043705) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions

Full list (3 MB)

Merit per day of the week
Monday 329063 (14.36%)
Tuesday 328085 (14.32%)
Wednesday 328731 (14.35%)
Thursday 348789 (15.23%)
Friday 346721 (15.13%)
Saturday 302508 (13.20%)
Sunday 306242 (13.37%)
Total: 2290139

^* This file will be overwritten by newer versions

Quote from: bitmover on April 09, 2026, 12:53:44 AM

Quote from: criptoevangelista on April 08, 2026, 11:44:30 PM

Pra mim o Satoshi Nakamoto foi o Hal Finney, mas acho que hoje em dia é mais especulação do que qualquer outra coisa, nunca de fato saberemos a real, pois qualquer um que for "acusado" de ser Satoshi vai negar até a morte... Satoshi sempre será uma face oculta no mundo das criptos, talvez só façam esses tipos de materias ou pesquisar pelo engajamento da noticia e divulgação da matéria, não vejo sequer sentido em pleno 2026 procurarem por isso... acho até que o unico que possa dar pistas reais sobre Satoshi seria o Theymos, mas o proprio já disse que não divulgaria mais nada a respeito do criador do BTC.

Hal finney foi a primeira transação.
Seria uma fraude total se fosse ele Cheesy

Ah, cara, eu não vejo isso como uma fraude. Talvez ele possa estar mandando para ele mesmo, para fazer algum teste ou até para trazer isso a público. É uma possibilidade.

Ainda assim, acredito fortemente que Hal Finney seja o criador do Bitcoin. Não vejo muitos motivos para não ser. Outra hipótese seria um grupo de pessoas, mas acho difícil não ter ocorrido nenhum vazamento depois de tantos anos. Em algum momento, alguém poderia querer assumir a autoria, nem que fosse por ego.

No fim, Hal Finney me parece a pessoa mais adequada para ser o criador. Mas, na verdade, nunca vamos saber. Sempre vai ficar no campo da especulação, ainda mais considerando que ele já faleceu

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 05:29:58 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 08, 2026, 08:28:07 PM

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on April 05, 2026, 08:57:57 AM

Because in that case, that person is indeed buying every week—whether at the year’s highs or lows—an amount that will be the same 95% of the time. That’s totally different from what Michael Saylor does.

It does not seem to be totally different in the sense of buying bitcoin at whatever price whenever the money is available. I would grant that there seems to be a wee bit of money printing going on by Saylor to make more money available than what would have had been available based on regular processes playing out... so in some sense they are forcing the availability of more money and likely measuring their debt to asset ratio being so low that they can afford to print with quite a bit of liberty and latitude.. since they are not significantly/meaningfully indebted in traditional ways of measuring such debt levels.

It is totally different. Someone doing DCA since August 2020 has a 125% return on the money invested whereas Strategy has a negative return.

I will concede that the levels of returns (or being in the positive or negative on paper) are different with Saylor as compared with an average normie bitcoin buyer based on bitcoin buys being made when the money comes available (which tends to be when the bitcoin price is going up or even when the BTC price is high), yet I am not going to concede that what he is doing is much different from DCA and/or materially different enough in order to get all worked up about how different that it is, when he is largely just performing some variation of DCA that he believes works for him and his views that bitcoin is ongoingly on sale as long as it is under a million and/or that bitcoin is going to pump forever.

Sure, he is also using debt and/or engaging in various maneuvers to squeeze out more dollars from whatever financial instruments that he has in order to ongoingly buy more bitcoin, whether the BTC price is high, low or sideways, even though Saylor seems to get more excited when the price is going up... and, yeah, maybe Saylor has some kind of a psychological problem in which he considers that he is always missing out that is triggered more when the BTC price is going up.

By the way, there are likely examples of normies who engage in similar kinds of conduct in their DCA as Saylor does, even if these normie peeps might not be working with as much capital and/or financial instruments as Saylor / MSTR happens to have....and there are folks who their conviction goes up as the BTC price is going up and/or there are people who may well be in their earning years (their income growing years) and they buy more and more bitcoin as their financials get better and better and better through their earning years and they may well be getting promotions that increase their income and facilitate their abilities to buy more bitcoin, even though with the passage of time the cost of bitcoin had been ongoingly going up, yet they are buying based on their better income status in later years and their abilities to buy that had not existed in their earlier years..

In other words, I will assert that you are largely making a distinction without a difference in terms of your proclamation or concern that Saylor's/MSTR's average cost per BTC is higher than it should be and/or could be if conditions were better and if if he/MSTR were buying bitcoin in a more measured and calculated way... which is exactly part of the point of DCA.. which is not really proclaiming to know short term bitcoin price changes and accordingly not to giving too many shits about if the BTC price is high, low or sideways and to consider that in the longer term, whether 4-10 years or longer (and Saylor is probably thinking in 30 years or longer, even though he might be getting close to dead in that far into the future)...

Saylor/MSTR is also likely thinking that 30-50 years down the road, it is likely not going to matter too much, in the whole scheme of things, if he/MSTR paid an average of $20k per coin, $50k per coin, $75k per coin or $125k per coin? Sure, we all like to get better prices so that we can get more coins for our dollars, yet we hardly can have confidence regarding which direction the BTC price is going to go in the short-to-medium term.... Accordingly, the more important factor will seem to be (in 30-50 years) how many coins he/MSTR has been able to accumulate through the ups, downs, and sideways rather than how much per coin they may or may not have had had ended up paying.

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So, the interest paid on the preferreds is based on ~~a fairy tale~~ a potentially self-fulfilling prophecy (that happens to be about the future, which is a wee bit of an unknown, anyhow).

FTFY.... hahahahahaha

Yeah, funny, but if it’s a future potential self-fulfilling prophecy, deep down you know it’s based on nothing.

How could I know that Saylor is wrong or that his products are not going to fit sufficiently well? I have been arguing with you over several posts (and maybe even several months), and maybe it is because I agree with Saylor's vision more than you agree with him? My agreement might not be exact even though it largely involves presumptions that everything will work themselves out so long as the underlying asset goes up in value in the longer term, even if there might be some negative bumps along the way.

At the same time, I am not sure why Saylor seems to want to become an existential risk - or even a national security risk... so I would agree that there does seem to be something weird in regards to Saylor and his company... while at the same time, I consider that there is a lot value in bitcoin's ongoing paradigm-shifting, sound money thesis that continues to fuel it with a somewhat inevitable upward trajectory

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 05:29:58 AM

It’s based on the expectation that buying pressure from STRC will drive the price of Bitcoin up so much that it will achieve that 30% CAGR (which has to be on the money invested, not Bitcoin’s CAGR).

I would not claim to know this, but if STRC is meant to allow Saylor to receive more money than what he would have had otherwise had, then he ends up with more bitcoin since he is buying bitcoin with that extra money, so sure, in theory, in the long run, the amount that he is paying out should be less than the profits that he ends up getting in order for the amount that he is paying out to be worth it.

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 05:29:58 AM

That’s why I say that with other regulators, the authorities would crack down on Strategy because if you’re involved in this, you might believe the story, but dividends have to be paid based on facts—or rather, on profits—not on something you hope will come true in the future and that hasn’t materialized yet.

I am not sure if that is true. Of course, the more he is in profits above the 11.5% costs then there would not be a problem, yet if he is running the product at a loss for a while, then he has to get the money from somewhere to support the product, and it would not make any sense if the product has to consistently pay out more than BTC's returns, in the even that bitcoin's CAGR is less than 11.5%.

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 05:29:58 AM

STRC is trading around $100 this week, by the way, so I suppose we’ll see a major purchase announced next Monday.

What you call “getting madder,” I call something else. Unfortunately, I think I’m the person on this forum who knows the most about how Bitcoin treasury companies operate. I’m not the most knowledgeable about how Bitcoin works, history, economics, or other topics, but when it comes to how Bitcoin treasury companies operate, I haven’t yet found anyone—either in this thread or others—who has made me think they know more about the subject than I do. And that’s a shame because I think most of them won’t have a future.

With Strategy, it seems that you need to know about treasury companies, bitcoin and also the innovative products that are being offered by Saylor/MSTR. You cannot necessarily just get locked into one angle, and yeah, we all have our perspectives, which may be right or wrong, and it is likely that our investment approach will be kept in check based on our knowledge and/or comfort about the assets that we buy, so we can choose our position size in any asset in accordance with our comfort level, and we do not necessarily need to be an expert, especially when it comes to predicting the future.. .since the future is a set of probabilities, and it might be dangerous if we were to go all or nothing into any particular vision of the future rather than hedging our bets in various ways.

Another thing that if we are investing no more than we can afford to lose, then we may well be willing to ride out our various investments based on a bit of ignorance of the future, yet at the same time, we are betting with a hope to be better off by having had invested rather than not invested, so we are not investing in order to lose, even though we may well realize that extreme negative scenarios could end up playing out.

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 05:29:58 AM

Their business model is based on the idea that any failing or stagnant business can become highly profitable by copying Strategy’s model. And if Strategy has been struggling for the past year, those who adopted the model during that time have fared even worse. Look at Nakamoto or American Bitcoin, for example.

I am not sure if anyone needs to be an expert to realize that it is not good to invest beyond your means, otherwise the operation is a ponzi scheme rather something that is going to make money, and surely it is even worse if there is a cascading lack of confidence that drive the stock prices way below the NAV of the assets that they hold.

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 05:29:58 AM

The very knowledge I gained when I believed in the model is what now makes me doubt it. Especially with Strategy's STRC. MSTR, the common stock ,is fine; the issue is that as Strategy’s Bitcoin stash has grown larger, it has undermined the possibility of people paying high multiples of MNAV. Saylor is aware of this, which is why lately (both he and Phong Lee) have been talking about nothing but STRC.

Fair enough.

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It is totally different. Someone doing DCA since August 2020 has a 125% return on the money invested whereas Strategy has a negative return.

Who?
And how was it calculated
What constituted the average price
What affected Strategy is the fact that majority of their coins were bought above $70K
And buying above $100K didn't really help their case
But that's what it means to DCA.

The 200-WMA measures the average trade-weighted price over 4 years (which would be back to April 2022), and that is currently $59,573.. There are ways to go back further and to measure what an average would be going back to August 2020.

I did a quickie approximation and used a DCA calculator and adjusted the weekly buy amount from August 2020 to present until the amount accumulated equaled 1 BTC (which end up being $120 per week) to get an average cost per BTC of $35,640. https://newhedge.io/bitcoin/dollar-cost-averaging-calculator

There are relatively accurate ways to calculate these kinds of hypotheticals, even though actual individual performance is likely to deviate from the averages based on how the individuals actually puts their bitcoin buys into practice.

Frequently, I argue with forum members (especially with the trading and the shitcoin twats) about the difficulties in beating DCA averages in bitcoin, especially if we start to look back and calculate averages over 8 years or longer.

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Quite a big week for STRC: market has yet to close, but they Strategy has already raked up more than 8,500 BTC this week:

I see a pretty decent buying announcement on Monday!

Where can this information be found
It would be easier to gauge strategy purchase before announcement
I'm assuming the estimated Bitcoin is the amount assumed to have been directed towards Bitcoin (everything) and not actual
Since that would mean
Their address are public and their holdings can be really found.

One of the criticisms of Strategy has come from their not sharing their addresses.

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Indeed. If it isn't profitable, no one wants to join the event. Grin

This is not all true

If you use CCE cash for a normal swap you pay fees, and participating in the raffle you can get the fees back making the swap free

Of course if you don't want to use cce or don't want to swap if it's not profitable you will not do a swap just to make free money with the raffle

I think people have a lot of free time to make 15 swaps instead of one, just to join a raffle and win 30 usd which will basically pay for mining fees and ccecash fees

Why 15 swaps? You do not need to make 15 swaps. You can join the raffle if you do one swap for the whole amount.

But this does not give any benefit to CCE.cash in my opinion if it's the same user farming the raffle every week

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 03:35:16 PM

The project is active, and there are new updates coming from time to time. Unfortunately, they are more focused in their rewards system now which isnt good. With daily tasks.

Last update 8 April
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.coinomi.wallet

This means that there are better wallets for Bitcoin (with RBF support and fully opensource), but for altcoins it might be an interesting option, since it supports many coins. However, I rarely use altcoins, only Bitcoin.

Coinomi needs to fulfill its promise to return to being open source, something they've promised since announcing their return.

Quote from: https://medium.com/coinomi/coinomi-reviving-our-legacy-reigniting-our-vision-df6eed9d0312

What to Expect Next
In the first stage of our relaunch, we’re focusing on key updates that will lay the foundation for what’s to come:

Open Source for Transparency and Ecosystem Growth: We’re returning to open-source development, prioritizing transparency and aiming to benefit the entire crypto ecosystem. This aligns with our original mission and ensures that Coinomi continues to contribute positively to the broader crypto community.

Quote from: Inior on Today at 03:35:21 AM

You can start by making research on what bitcoin is

What Bitcoin is can be explained simply by this one.
https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information/bitcoin-explained.html

For more information and education about Bitcoin for beginners.
Getting started with Bitcoin https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information/getting-started.html
Learn Bitcoin for beginners https://learnmeabitcoin.com/beginners/

More technical
https://learnmeabitcoin.com/technical/
https://github.com/bitcoinbook/bitcoinbook

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and then a beginners guide on how to invest in bitcoin.

How to invest money in Bitcoin and how to withdraw your profit
https://costavg.com/
[ANN] JJG Sustainable Bitcoin Withdrawal Strategy
https://bitcoindata.science/withdrawal-strategy

2. Contains the names of DT1 Members, find as many as you can.

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Não acho tão arriscado. Eles tem participação no forum, tem um serviço lucrativo e ótima reputação. Não é problema nenhum. É o mesmo de fazer staking numa exchange que você confia.

Eu acho arriscado fazer staking de BTC em qualquer plataforma. Cheesy

Mas, percebo a ideia.

Isso eu tb acho
Nao faco stake em nenhuma plataforma.

Mas voce falou como se fosse mais arriscado fazer em casinos.

Outra coisa que ninguém tá olhando, usar o seu BTC como colateral em plataformas como aave, pegando empréstimos em BTC e pagando um juros baixíssimo, eu ainda não entendo muito sobre, mas tem uma galera ganhando uma grana com isso, pois em vez dela vender o BTC que já tem, usa uma parte do saldo como colateral e faz empréstimos com smart contracts, alguém aqui entendido do assunto que possa clarear minha mente?

Acho que isso só funcionaria em casos específicos, precisaria usar esse dinheiro para pagar pelo menos os juros então teria que ter algo para investir essa divida. E dependendo dos juros talvez nem vale a pena investir em outras coisas.

Quote from: bitmover on April 05, 2026, 11:24:17 AM

But a lot of shady mixers operating without KYC would show up if that law really becomes a thing.

Illegal mixers will continue to exist as black market facilities. And the worst thing is if centralized platforms or scanning tools can't identify where I've mixed coins. While (possibly) having transaction/KYC proof in case of a freeze, it's still an unnecessary additional process. Imagine a freeze every time I send mixed coins.

Quote from: bitmover on April 08, 2026, 09:36:05 AM

Yeah, understand this is a downside. But this is how internet is evolving. Nobody wants the second best app.

While competition is a good thing, losing your life funds to help competition is a bad idea. You might not lose funds, but lack functionality and features using the second/third best wallet.

Few days ago I heard an interesting idea from Naval in a podcast, which I will quote here:

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“As you all know first prize is a Cadillac El Dorado. Anyone wanna see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired.” ― David Mamet, Glengarry Glen Ross

Many of us use Electrum because it's a great wallet. I use it. Still, I wouldn't call Sparrow a steak knife compared to Electrum - the Cadillac. It's not as popular as Electrum but has even more features for those who need them.

We have a saying in Croatia that it makes no sense arguing about someone's preferences and tastes. They are personal. I can't impose on you your favorite movie nor can you do it to me. That Cadillac might be a dream car for many Americans but I am sure that the majority of Europeans would rather drive something else.

Quote from: TryNinja on April 08, 2026, 12:36:40 PM

Só repetiram pontos que já eu tinha lido antes (padrões de pontuação + hashcash). Nada de novo sob o sol. Tongue

Para analisar esses padrões de escrita, tenham usado os mesmos sistemas, que andaram a identificar textos antigos como escritos por IA. Roll Eyes

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 12:53:44 AM

Hal finney foi a primeira transação.
Seria uma fraude total se fosse ele Cheesy

Não diria "fraude". Acho que todos nós fizemos isso. A nossa primeira transação foi para nós próprios. Cheesy

A minha pergunta neste caso é a seguinte:
Faz sentido, a pessoa que planeou ser totalmente desconhecida, mencionar o seu próprio nome ou invenção que tenha criado e conhecida da sua autoria?

Talvez, podemos dizer, que essa podia ser a maior estratégia para permanecer anônimo, porque muitos iriam dizer que não usariam isso.

Pois, mas é nesse ponto que o plano de anonimato entra. Satoshi fez as coisas tão bem, para permanecer anônimo, que ele nunca iria deixar uma possível ponto que o pudesse identificar.

Dizem que o Satoshi passou dois anos a desenvolver o Bitcoin. Acho que boa parte do tempo, foi a planear como se manter 100% anônimo e uma forma de fazer tudo de modo a nunca ser identificado.

Acredito que nem o Theymos, tem pistas suficientemente capazes de o conseguirmos identificar.

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Quote from: bitmover on April 08, 2026, 02:59:48 PM

Não acho tão arriscado. Eles tem participação no forum, tem um serviço lucrativo e ótima reputação. Não é problema nenhum. É o mesmo de fazer staking numa exchange que você confia.

Eu acho arriscado fazer staking de BTC em qualquer plataforma. Cheesy

Mas, percebo a ideia.

Isso eu tb acho
Nao faco stake em nenhuma plataforma.

Mas voce falou como se fosse mais arriscado fazer em casinos.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 10:52:49 PM

Mas voce falou como se fosse mais arriscado fazer em casinos.

Foi mais no sentido, porque normalmente, os casinos colocam mais "questões" na hora de levantar, o que pode atrapalhar.
Mas, claro, cada caso será um caso.

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Have you tried to access the tournament using the direct link?

https://bitz.io/player/desktop/tournaments/3929

I missed the tournament as well, but could find it using this link

Thank you for the link, I think I got it all figured out now. At first I didn't know selecting USD as preferred currency would let me participate. And I thought after loading the tournament it will redirect me to the games section itself.

What do you mean you missed the tournament? It's still ongoing and we got about 6 days to go or am I wrong?

I didn't express myself well. I meant that I didn't see the tournament link as well.

I played a few more games now. I am at 31st Grin

Oh okay, i feel you now.

Wow it's impressive how far you have gone in the tournament I believe if you keep it up you can go as far as top 10 or even top 3. The only problem is that you've got a limited time and 4 days might not be enough to achieve that. I am still far away but it's really nice being part of the tournament. I doubt if I can make it as far as you but i ain't giving up just yet I can still do better than this.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 02:59:48 PM

Não acho tão arriscado. Eles tem participação no forum, tem um serviço lucrativo e ótima reputação. Não é problema nenhum. É o mesmo de fazer staking numa exchange que você confia.

Eu acho arriscado fazer staking de BTC em qualquer plataforma. Cheesy

Mas, percebo a ideia.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 09:46:56 AM

Take a look here, you will find a big list of exchanges
https://bitlist.co/exchanges
https://bitmixlist.org/#neverkyc-exchanges

Those websites are maintained by forum members

Thank you. I’ll be sure to check out all the exchange platforms in this directory and send them a proposal for collaboration 👍

Quote from: bitmover on April 07, 2026, 03:37:25 PM

When talking about wallets, I think the best wallet is the one everyone should be using.

I have zero interest in the second best wallet.

Just get a trezor model. Any of them. The best wallet.

If the crypto community did that, many small companies and projects would go out of business and fail pretty soon or ever begin producing in the first plae. That would be a shame. If everyone bought Trezors, Passport Devices wouldn't need to exist and sell anything. We wouldn't have Satochip because there would be no one interested in their products. Bitbox and Keystone would be dead. No one would be looking at airgapped signers like Seedsigner, Krux, or Specter. Healthy competition is a good thing.