Yes, the point is, when we're accumulating Bitcoin, its price becomes secondary. The most important thing is that we can continue buying Bitcoin in the current situation. Because time can be likened to a very scarce gold. Therefore, we must be even more enthusiastic about continuing to accumulate our money in Bitcoin. Believe me, in two years from now, I'm sure Bitcoin's price will be even higher than it is now. So, should we wait for that time to arrive to invest in Bitcoin? Yes, of course not. Therefore, right now, we just need to focus and continue accumulating Bitcoin.

I will try to farm some faucet later. Maybe bridgoro could add a few recommendations of faucets on how to get those coins and which wallets to use. Or if anyone is helping them, please share your wallets and how to get the coins

I think so: mempool shows a transaction every 20 minutes, once in a while replaced by a blockstorm with thousands of transactions in a short amount of time. But mempool is empty and each block includes a few transactions, so low-fee transactions should work.

I think plinko mines doesn't have so high multiplers such as 1000x. That is my goal, like in other games that we used to have in l0tt0.com  but were unfortunately removed ...

we will have both up by end of next week. the new dice game just wasn't working that well, numbers wise-- so we're bringing back our old OG dice, but with a facelift.

I have been trying to get  1000x in the retro poker game.

I made a few bucks so far, this was my best bet. 60x!

Is v3 testnet transactions still working fine?

Maybe bridgoro could add a few recommendations of faucets on how to get those coins

Stacking to a steady DCA keeps things discipline but having a bit of flexible cash on the side really does help one take advantage of those dips without throwing off your whole strategy it is a kind of the best of both worlds , honestly your baseline plan to stay consistent and one still get the room to be opportunistic when the market cycle gives one a good setup.

Bitcoin is already a store of value.

The mere fact that bitcoin has volatility does not disqualify it from being a store of value.

Zoom out a wee bit to see how well bitcoin has stored value through the years especially for anyone holding (and/or putting additional value in) for 4 years or longer..  Sure, you could get caught up in short term fluctuations in BTC's price,yet that is not really telling you very much about how bitcoin has been able to store value for those who are trying to store for longer timelines.  

There is no reason to believe that bitcoin's store of value attributes are going to disappear into the future, even though the upside appreciation is likely to slow down relative to its historical performance.

Also one of the reasons that I prefer to assess the value of my own BTC (and I suggest that others do something similar) based on the 200-WMA (which would be a bottom price) is so that I don't get distracted by the short term ups and downs in the spot price.  Bitcoin's 200-WMA has so far ongoingly gone up, and it never has gone down, so there seems to be some reasonable store of value element in that always up dynamic (at least so far), and of course, if we are buying and selling we are going to be doing that at BTC's spot price, which so far has tended to spend an overwhelming majority of its time at least 25% higher than the 200-WMA.


FTFY

The fact of the matter is that how aggressive or how whimpy a person chooses to be is quite discretionary.. meaning guys can choose the levels..

and sure you are technically correct that if a person sets his weekly DCA to be an exact amount each week, he will likely need to make sure that he does not overdo it, so he has to set it to such an amount that is not going to get him into trouble.. so if he is just ignoring his weekly DCA and just allowing his DCA to trigger every week at a set amount, then surely he is not being as aggressive as he may well not investing into bitcoin as aggressively as he could be, yet it is still possible that he might have figured out a way to set a fairly aggressive amount and then if his cashflow gets him in trouble, he just has some extra back up funds that will allow for such irregularities in his cashflow.

It seems to me that the longer a person is in bitcoin, then he may well end up holding more cash, just for a variety of reasons and merely because he can, so he might no longer be concerned about how aggressively he is adding to his bitcoin stash.. Even if he has not reached his overaccumulation goal, he can see that he is well on his way and even perhaps ahead of his expected schedule.. so he might start to consider that he can relax his bitcoin accumulation and perhaps make more space for extra dollars to be available rather than ongoingly maximizing his bitcoin investment as he had been doing in the first few years of his bitcoin investment.  So in that regard, without knowing details, we cannot really proclaim another person is being too aggressive or too whimpy, even if we would have had drawn the lines in different ways.

Maybe we could say that instead of setting your DCA to automatically withdraw at $70 each week, why don't you perform your weekly DCA's manually, and sure you might have some weeks that are going to still end up $70, yet overall you are likely going to average more like $100 or even $120 per week based on your actual income, yet guys have to figure out if they want to squeak the extra DCA.. and sure in 10 years instead of investing an average of $70 per week, if the guy ended up investing $120 per week, he would end up with $62,400 invested into bitcoin rather than $36,400, so that could make a pretty BIG difference in terms of both the amount invested but also the amount that the BTC might have had appreciated in value over the 10 years...

yet again, these are trade offs and some guys would rather be a little less aggressive so that they are not as worried about sometimes running out of cash.. and perhaps they can make adjustments every few months for the extent to which they might have extra cash piling up that could have had been put into bitcoin, so maybe they have their weekly DCA going, yet every 2-3 months they will do an extra lump sum based on whatever extra level of cash they had building up during that time.


Newbies should be happy that the price fell, yet surely there are some newbies who might have had lump sum invested a lot in higher prices, such as anywhere between $110k and $126k, so then if they keep buying small amounts, they still have a large portion that they had already invested. 

Of course that could have had happened.  The BTC price was completely above $100k between early May and early November, so anyone coming into bitcoin int he past 6 months is likely to have quite a few BTC that are more expensive than the current price... yet if anyone is in bitcoin for 4-10 years or longer as an investor, then he would likely just keep buying whether weekly or otherwise.  Sure it could be possible that he does not have very much money for additional buys because he already put a bunch of his free money into bitcoin.

Whether newbie or not, there are needs to be prepared for BTC price moves in either direction, which is also part of the rationale to attempt to preserve some abilities to continue to buy bitcoin on a weekly basis rather than just buying once and forgetting about it.  I am not much of a fan for holding back to buy dips, yet a person who might have had front loaded his investment at higher prices, then that kinds of a guy might have been in a better position to have had kept some of the money available for buying on dips in order to potentially off-set the lump sum investment that he had made at that then current price.


We might be arguing about semantics and the truth of the matter is that the various kinds of back up funds are fungible, yet each of us likely needs to set boundaries between his funds in order to know how far he is going to authorize himself to draw down his various back up funds... so part of the reason that emergency funds has such a label (or seems that it should be) so that guys can put their own alert in terms of how far they might be willing to draw down their various back up funds for non-emergency purposes, and then to say that it is too risky to draw the back up funds down any further because those remaining funds are emergency funds.

It is also true that when we are brand new to investing into bitcoin, we might not have very many back up funds, so we are building them up, and surely in our first year or so investing into bitcoin, we might not even be able to build our back up funds and/or our bitcoin investment up to 3 months of our expenses. .and it could take even longer to build up our back up funds to 3 months of our expenses if we end up tapping into them from time to time, so surely it can take some practice to figure out how much to put in each (the back up funds and the bitcoin investment) and how to continue to build each..  Some guys might be willing to take more chances to either invest into bitcoin or to not build up their back up funds since they are wanting to buy the dip and so they could inadvertently end up putting themselves at more risk than they had expected when they are ongoingly engaging in those kinds of behaviors. 

None of us can exactly tell another guy what his line needs to be, yet sometimes guys might put themselves into their own pickle without realizing it, because they had been taking more risk than they should have had been doing, and so then by the time, they are in a pickle, then they cannot go back and fix their errors since they might end up having to tap into some of their bitcoin at a time that was not of their own choosing which could hamper their progress when they should have had been buying bitcoin on dips like our current dips, but instead they are selling to cover some of their expenses that had unexpectantly come in and they do not have any other funds to cover such extra expenses (which also might include some temporary loss of income, too).


Buying bitcoin at a discount is not an emergency, yet if you have extra emergency funds, you may well be referring to reserve funds since you had assigned flexibility to such funds that involves the ability to use them to buy bitcoin.

you can call them whatever you like, but if you are mixing up emergency funds and reserve funds, then you might not know exactly where your border is... so for example, if you have more than 3 months of your expenses in a back up funds and maybe you even have close to 5 months, and you call all of those back up funds emergency funds.  maybe some guys would call 3 months of that as emergency funds and the other 2 months would be reserve funds, so that you have more flexibility with the reserve funds, but calling the 3 months portions emergency funds is a way of you setting your own self-imposed limit in regards to how low you will go and that you have (on your own) determined that you are not going to go below a certain point for your BTC buys.. since that would be your emergency funds rather than your reserve funds.. .

So then it may not really matter what you call them, yet you could still get yourself into trouble if you are not attempting to draw a line in regards to how low you can go or if you end up drawing the line too low and then once you buy the bitcoin with those funds, then you could be in trouble if some emergency (such as loss of income and/or increase in expenses) were to come after you had already used the money to buy bitcoin... not even accounting for which way the BTC price might end up going from the time of your purchase.. maybe the BTC price continues to go down after your purchase?


You self impose your rigidity, and yeah, other guys might have different limits, and also guys might use differing terms, yet hopefully each of us might be able to recognize that there is importance in keeping certain kinds of cash cushions, whether we call them emergency funds, reserve funds or back up funds... and if we end up getting so excited about the dip that we overly use up our reserve funds which causes us to end up tapping into our emergency funds, then maybe we have even gone beyond our own self-imposed limits?  and maybe we won't even realize that we went beyond our limits until a few weeks later and some shit goes down, and maybe not even unexpected shit, but our income might shrink and/or our expenses might go up and then we are in a situation where we might have had contributed to our own emergency situation in circumstances that would have not otherwise have had been an emergency and so then maybe whatever cash that we have remaining is on the low side.. and then maybe bitcoin had taken another dip down from $92k and then it goes to $82k and we really want to buy bitcoin at those $82k prices, but we have absolutely no money because we had some extra expenses and/or loss of income, and we end up having to sell bitcoin at a time that we would have had preferred to have had been buying some...

No one can determine those boundaries except you, and on the face of it, buying the dip does not fit in the category of an emergency, even though it may well fit into a category in which we had purposefully holding some extra reserve funds on the side to be able to buy bitcoin with those funds. and those funds were dedicated to either buying ourselves a new Iphone 17 (when we already have the iphone 15) or alternatively, buying bitcoin.


They can be.  Each guy can figure out which things fit into which categories, and some guys have determined that they won't let their cash go below a certain point absent specific kinds of expenses or otherwise that they ran out of reserve funds and the have to then decide is it better to buy bitcoin with that $1,500 or to buy your daugher the birthday gift that you ahd promised that you were going to buy by no later than November 24th... so then you are left with a dilemma about how to use the money since you don't have any other funds.  Sometimes those kinds of dilemmas happen, and many of us want to keep a sufficient enough cash cushion so that we will not get put into a dilemma of following through with our promise to our daughter or to buy bitcoin on the dip..  No one else can answer the question for you or to impose the limits on you (except maybe if you let your wife do it), so we are tending to impose those limits on ourselves in order to hopefully give ourself some cushion and perhaps to determine which funds are for what and how low we will allow our funds go before we might have to start taking emergency actions, so for example some guys don't want to tap into their emergency funds no matter what, unless they might know that it is merely a 1-3 days of a cash shortage that will be replenished..so they purposefully create categories, and when their funds are used up in the various categories the situation becomes more and more dire..  and perhaps they might even consider that they might have to go get another job or they might have to sell something from their garage if certain parts of their backup funds (whether they call it emergency funds, reserve funds, daughter birthday fund or something else) go below certain amounts.


Sure, you might have specific funds that you already have set aside for that dip... and it might even have alternative possible uses (like I mentioned buy the Iphone 17 or buy some bitcoin and wait to buy the iphone 17 in 3 months).  I doubt it is disputable even if guys might be referring to these funds in different ways and they might even have strict ideas about only limited kinds of exceptions to dip into emergency funds and bitcoin being in a dip is not an emergency and/or it does not fit in their way of conceptualizing the limitations on the emergency funds that they are not going to tap into unless it fits certain categories of reasons to override and to get money from it...and many of us consider the use of emergency funds as something that needs to be replaced as soon as possible yet other forms of reserve funds are optional to replace them or not.

If the government were to credit the funds into the citizens' identification cards to only be used at grocery stores or supermarkets, that would actually solve most, if not all of the gambling issue.

I am not asking for shortcut or about reputation I am just asking which is quality content because its most important thing for me to start my new journey here on this forum.

Always having good and ideal start up keep things on good way you are having long experience here, so your words could be appreciated about good and quality content.

Eu estou usando o perplexity após essa dica do mikel

Confesso que estou bastante decepcionado  com o perplexity.

Achei lento  e tive algumas respostas bem ruins, alucinações e informações muito erradas. Dai tive que recorrer a versoes grátis do copilot ou chatgpt e resolveu. Achei pior do que o grok e do que o chatgpt.

Ainda nao testei pra código, que é o mais importante pra mim.  Mas, pra outros usos, ja achei pior.

Entendo que o perplexity tem vários modelos. Mas é mais lento que os outros, e tem que ficar selecionando o modelo toda hora, pq a versão standard é meio ruim, nao sei pq.

My country has very strict gambling regulations, because many people who were receiving money from the government for social assistance just gambled everything.

So government banned many gambling websites , trying to make people spend that money in their basic needs and their family's... I dont think that is effective, but this is how it played out...

My country has very strict gambling regulations, because many people who were receiving money from the government for social assistance just gambled everything.

So government banned many gambling websites , trying to make people spend that money in their basic needs and their family's... I dont think that is effective, but this is how it played out...

Eu estou usando o perplexity após essa dica do mikel

Confesso que estou bastante decepcionado  com o perplexity.

Achei lento  e tive algumas respostas bem ruins, alucinações e informações muito erradas. Dai tive que recorrer a versoes grátis do copilot ou chatgpt e resolveu. Achei pior do que o grok e do que o chatgpt.

Ainda nao testei pra código, que é o mais importante pra mim.  Mas, pra outros usos, ja achei pior.

Entendo que o perplexity tem vários modelos. Mas é mais lento que os outros, e tem que ficar selecionando o modelo toda hora, pq a versão standard é meio ruim, nao sei pq.

You have made some valid points, but where I have a little problem is the statement in your last line, that you expect Bitcoin to surpass $100,000 again by the end of this month. How sure are you about that statement? You know it can be very misleading since we can only be predicting the price and not sure of the next minute price. Offcourse, we know that Bitcoin can go up to that, or even fall below where it is now, and we can't really be certain about its price at the end of the month or even the year. Due to its volatility, it  can spring up or down, and investors are just left with the mindset of consistent buys and Hodl since it can still become a store of value in future, even though we are not sure. So stating that you expect bitcoin to surpass $100,000 is not a sure statement to make to me

What can be a challenge for an investor to invest a particular amount of money into bitcoin weekly using DCA method boils down to his basic needs and monthly expenses. If your income is $300 weekly and your discretionary income is $100, you will see that sometimes, his basic needs and expenses will be above $200 which is the actual money to take care of himself. It can be $220, you can see that his discretionary income has reduced to $80, he will buy less sats.

On a different week, he can have a lesser expenses of $170, at this point the investor has $130 as his discretionary income with $30 extra. He can buy more bitcoin with his discretionary income. You don't need to force yourself to that's compulsory for you to buy the exact amount of bitcoin weekly only if you're accumulating in relatively whimpy way.

Who would want to see his portfolio declined? No one, specially newbies. But that's why we called "diamond hands', those investors that doesn't care or at least not scared and don't panic even if their portfolio went down so hard in the current dip from $125k->$90k'ish. They are still going to hold on it and would never sell despite the current crash or any indication that we are in the bear season already. For new investors, if they do their study of the market, and praying that the market dipping to their price to re-enter, then this is the perfect opportunity for them no doubt about it. They could start as early as today to invest, DCA, and get ready their discretionary funds and go and buy within their budget.

As far as I know, Tapping into your Emergency funds to buy Bitcoin no matter how little is wrong. Emergency funds are created to protect your Bitcoin investment and must remain untapped except when you're dealing with an Emergency situation. They is what is called a Reserve funds,it is used to cover extra expenses. What you needed to buy the Dip is a Reserve Funds. Tapping into your Reserve fund is the appropriate thing you should have done rather tapping into your Emergency funds to buy Bitcoin that would seems you're Gambling.

I like to put it to you that your idea of purchasing bitcoin is bond around a certain limit and in life you can’t always be at one spot, not even bitcoin itself stays in one spot right now it’s breaking patterns hence I am of the opinion you seem to be retarded to think that using your emergency fund which basically won’t be all but a part of it to grab an opportunity of buying in discount is wrong just because you learnt one principle of economics how we reserve funds is as good as it helps you to grab opportunities like the dips,

in my view and experience of life flexibility makes you more productive and efficient than rigidity not even live is rigid,

emergency funds can’t be limited to bad experiences or situations emergency

can also be a very quick drop of bitcoin that you seem to stand an opportunity to grab a share of bitcoin that on a normal would take a long time to achieve yet you are doing the rest of your investment as normal.

I will try to farm some faucet later. Maybe bridgoro could add a few recommendations of faucets on how to get those coins and which wallets to use. Or if anyone is helping them, please share your wallets and how to get the coins

You have made some valid points, but where I have a little problem is the statement in your last line, that you expect Bitcoin to surpass $100,000 again by the end of this month. How sure are you about that statement? You know it can be very misleading since we can only be predicting the price and not sure of the next minute price. Offcourse, we know that Bitcoin can go up to that, or even fall below where it is now, and we can't really be certain about its price at the end of the month or even the year. Due to its volatility, it  can spring up or down, and investors are just left with the mindset of consistent buys and Hodl since it can still become a store of value in future, even though we are not sure. So stating that you expect bitcoin to surpass $100,000 is not a sure statement to make to me

Eu estou usando o perplexity após essa dica do mikel

Confesso que estou bastante decepcionado  com o perplexity.

Achei lento  e tive algumas respostas bem ruins, alucinações e informações muito erradas. Dai tive que recorrer a versoes grátis do copilot ou chatgpt e resolveu. Achei pior do que o grok e do que o chatgpt.

Ainda nao testei pra código, que é o mais importante pra mim.  Mas, pra outros usos, ja achei pior.

Entendo que o perplexity tem vários modelos. Mas é mais lento que os outros, e tem que ficar selecionando o modelo toda hora, pq a versão standard é meio ruim, nao sei pq.

I am here to learn and understand about Bitcoin because recently I found my few friends done good due to having early investing opportunity in this, and I am late but still its good time because It's going to be had good profit in long run I was investing in few other things but now have changed into my strategy.

After reading many things I found this will give me good which is not possible in other investments here after checking few links I found for having signature rank minimum rank is Full Member because no campaign accepting members with Sr Member is ideal which is going to take time so doing with own investment month is much better till this achievement.
My question is what quality content to have quick increase in rank and start earning from this forum because mostly are doing through own peoples and fewest are those are encouraging peoples those are new please suggest for better and good results, thanks.

I am not asking for shortcut or about reputation I am just asking which is quality content because its most important thing for me to start my new journey here on this forum.

Always having good and ideal start up keep things on good way you are having long experience here, so your words could be appreciated about good and quality content.

Eu estou usando o perplexity após essa dica do mikel

Confesso que estou bastante decepcionado  com o perplexity.

Achei lento  e tive algumas respostas bem ruins, alucinações e informações muito erradas. Dai tive que recorrer a versoes grátis do copilot ou chatgpt e resolveu. Achei pior do que o grok e do que o chatgpt.

Ainda nao testei pra código, que é o mais importante pra mim.  Mas, pra outros usos, ja achei pior.

Entendo que o perplexity tem vários modelos. Mas é mais lento que os outros, e tem que ficar selecionando o modelo toda hora, pq a versão standard é meio ruim, nao sei pq.

You are thinking the wrong way.

There are no shortcuts. No quick rank up.

Make the best possible quality content you can. Build your reputation.  It will take time..

Does any of you have some bitcoin testnet coins? Or ethereum.
Thanks 

Both testnets are severely broken now: v3 coins are hard to get, v4 takes hours to get a confirmation because someone mines only empty blocks.

You can see available campagins in the service board
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0

You need to rank up your account at least until Member rank. Then you will eventually find one.

Just keep participating in the forum, posting quality content and you will rank up and eventually join a signature campaign and earn a few sats

Because regulations do not protect uses as they should. They worry just about AML, and dont care if innocent people lose their money in this war against money laundry...

Thank you for your valuable advice. Buying Bitcoin weekly as you said is really reasonable. However, since my salary comes every month, I think buying Bitcoin monthly is beneficial for me. After receiving my monthly salary, I will be able to monitor my spending plan, savings, and Bitcoin investment together. Now, buying Bitcoin weekly will cause problems in my budgeting because even if I have money, I spend it on various unnecessary things. This may increase unnecessary stress. Since I am planning a long-term investment, I do not know how successful I will be. So, if my income increases in the future, I can focus on investing increasing 5% to 25% of my income as you said. Then maybe I will be able to invest a large part of my income.

I have no idea about signature campaigns. I am completely new to this forum. I was trying to learn about Bitcoin investing on Google and YouTube from there I came to know about this forum. I posted here to get ideas about investment. If there is any income system from this forum then I will look into it seriously. If you want, you can help me with some information on this or if there is a thread discussing this kind of topic, I can learn from there. Thanks.

You understand my point. Actually, since I am working on a monthly salary, it would be beneficial for me to invest monthly. Since I do not have much practical experience in investing. That is why things seem a little complicated to me. Maybe if I start investing, I will be able to change the consistency as per my convenience.

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Let me illustrate this answer

I think  cookdata is referring to a social engineering attack, there is no need to hack an account. I wouldn't even say na person who performed such attack is a hacker.

He is just someone who created a fake website to steal money from users looking for easy money and bonuses

Of course, you can do whatever you like in terms of frequency.  I gave my recommendation for weekly, which largely relates to attempting to incentivize activism, learning and potentially more aggressiveness, which likely is preferred while you are getting used to investing in bitcoin, yet I recognize that the amount is so small that it is going to take you quite a bit of time to really invest a sizable amount of value into bitcoin since you are ONLY investing about 6.7% of your income into bitcoin, and for several years (probably since at least 2020), I have been recommending investing 5% to 25% of your income into bitcoin, so you are towards the lower end of my own recommended investment range and at the same time, surely better than nothing, and you have to figure out what works for your own situation, which you seem to have worked through how to apply your own numbers... and you could put yourself into a worse situation if you ended up overstressing yourself, either financially or psychologically... .. and you can see how your currently chosen system goes and make adjustments to it from time to time as you get used to having the application of your system within your monthly routine.

Why dont you try to join signature campaigns in the forum?
You can earn like $20-50 usd per week pretty fast as you rank up a little bit.

Every small amount of incomes helps in your accumulation phase

I think most folk who doing job get paid every month and their entire financial plan can be based on that source of income. Businessmen have a process of diversifying their income sources so that they can accumulate Bitcoin weekly. I personally doing job and withdraw my salary every month. I have to depend on this salary to meet all the needs of my family and invest in every aspect. There are many investors who do DCA and continue to accumulate Bitcoin for the long term. I used to do DCA every month with discretionary income in the early days but as I gained experience in investing, At present times I am buying every week. If investors who do DCA and add Bitcoin frequently, then each buying will increase the holdings in the portfolio. This method will gradually reduce your buying price and increase your Bitcoin holdings even during periods of price rise and fall. The unit price increases during periods of Bitcoin price overshoot but overally investors who DCA regularly can achieve great investment success with this method.

Exchanges fear regulators, not their users. So they stay on the safe side for their own interests.

Tem um erro no seu link da matéria alegotardo, tem http duas vezes.

Eu estava lendo a matéria tentando entender como confiscaram. Será que ela deixou o dinheiro em uma exchange? Pra confiscarem, deve ter sido algo assim....

Como a pessoa consegue roubar tanto dinheiro e vacilar tanto assim, deixando o dinheiro numa corretora 

Sorry man, but 2000 bucks won't change  your life. Bitcoin wont solve your problems.

To change your life you need to invest in your education, so you can earn more money from your job. Then you will be able to invest tens of thousands of dollars in assets you like.

I think in crypto things are just going way too far...

And that can be interpreted in different ways. For example, a friend of mine bought a mobile phone, which was later found to be stolen. The epilogue is that he returned the phone when the investigation came to that, but he did not get his money back. Yes, when he bought the device, he didn't know it was stolen.

I believe that crypto regulators also adhere to this model.

But if a terrorist makes a SWIFT deposit to your account, you will face problems and your fiat money will be frozen.

I believe the authorities acted too late in this situation, and if the OP can prove all those events since Exolix deposit, he should be fine. The problem is that some crypto exchanges are shady...

I was replying to another Topic in this Board a few moments ago when this dillema came to my mind.

Dollar Cost Averaging includes a few characteristics of typical trading.  For example, you are doing this particularly to lower your entry point and cash out Profits earlier than you would have if you never adopted the strategy in the first place.  But on the other hand it feels like I am cheating by saying it is trading because it involves no other thing but clicking the Buy button every set number of days, weeks et cetera.  The Internet does not help with my dillema, some articles calling it an investing strategy while others call it a trading strategy.

What do you think?  Is Dollar Cost Averaging a TRADING strategy or an investment one?

Sorte ou azar? Mas nao era risco zero? Kkk


Ai depende de voce pesquisar e saber o que esta fazendo. Nao usar exchanges duvidosas e com problemas legais.
Eu nao corro esse risco ai. Nem deixo dinheiro em corretoras.


Nao confio em ninguém e nenhuma corretora.. Voce tb nao deveria. Por isso o bitcoin é trustless, pq vc nao deve confiar em ngm.


Tu usa o nome completo num fórum anônimo e  vem falar de privacidade?

Enfim esse tipo de serviço (de verificad grau aml) é o que pode garantir sua privacidade.

Saber diferenciar meus diferentes UTXO,  de acordo com sua origem e seu grau AML é o que me permite me esquiar de muitos KYC indesejados e confiscos.

Todos os UTXO sao diferentes. Alguns sao ligados a alguns serviços e identidades diferentes que tenho na Internet.

Ate para p2p vc deve se preocupar com isso. Se voce envia um bitcoin "sujo" marcado como roubado para um desavisado no p2p, ele pode te processar ou alguma autoridade pode te contatar te dando muita dor de cabeca.


 Eu nao estou concordamdo com voce, nem estou discutindo esse asusnto que voce trouxe apenas pra me agredir qd ficou sem argumentos.  E o pior , vc falou uma mentira a meu respeito.

Pois é, o risco quase zero do p2p não é tão zero assim né... Vai lá pedir algo pra justiça brasileira, boa sorte

Quem sabe o que está fazendo pode mitigar esse risco. Eu sempre posso verificar o AML das moedas antes de enviar para uma corretora CEX, mas eu não posso verificar os dados de origem da pessoa que me enviou o PIX. E o pix ainda pode ser contestado até 6 meses depois e retornar. E voce toma o calote no p2p, mesmo usando bisq ou qq outro protocolo desses...

Te garanto que voce nem sabia o que era bitcoin e eu já estava aqui falando que sou contra qualquer uso que não seja financeiro...

E voce nem sabe se o operador de p2p irá mesmo respeitar sua privacidade. Ele pode declarar tudo pra receita, pois ele tem seu CPF. Daí voce pode pagar 5% + imposto + multa ainda. Vai perder 30%  

Falando nisso, é importante ter um operador p2p de confiança. Temos um aqui no forum, o Trêvoid . Ele não opera com fiat, apenas com swaps de cripto. Já usei ele algumas vezes.

E tem o risco de receber dinheiro sujo... imagina receber um PIX de dinheiro ilegal. 

Na BISQ não ocorrem essas taxas, mas em um mercado de p2p profissional tem sim, e 2% já é uma taxa absurda, 5% então....

A Peach bitcoin tb cobra taxas abusivas.

Ou tomar uma reversão num PIX

Mas sair falando que é a melhor coisa do mundo, que é "risco quase zero", ou que "5% de prejuízo é insignificante"... tá simplesmente errado.

There is something somewhat arbitrary and random in regards to seeking to achieve 1 whole bitcoin, and if you are brand new in the process of buying BTC, then maybe you might consider that you have to spend more than $100k to buy a whole bitcoin, especially if it is spread over 13.5 months, but yeah, you would have an advantage if you had already been in the process of building your stash.

Frequently I suggest to someone that if they would have had been buying regularly, the last 4 years, their average price per BTC would be in the ballpark of the 200-WMA, which currently is slightly more than $55k per coin... so in the next 4 years, I would imagine the average is going to be quite a bit higher than $55k, perhaps somewhere in the ballpark of $165k per BTC for someone acquiring bitcoin regularly (such as ever week) in the next 4 years.  My current fuck you status chart that shows the 200-WMA projections has $211k in the November 2029 box, but I think that might be a bit high.

1. Can Saylor be liquidated? There is a chance.
2. Can an economic calamity aka Depression happen? There is a chance.
3. Can $ hyperinflate considering that we have $36 tril in debt. There is a chance.

I take my chances, you take yours.
My take:
1. maybe 5% chance
2. maybe 10% chance
3. maybe 1% chance

It is possible that the setup is similar to 2000 going into 2001...i see similarities, but also differences.
that said...cash is NOT king when the printing resumes or accelerates.

However, I kept (for years now) about 5 year cash cushion (at OK spending levels), which could be stretched to, maybe, 6-7 years, if needed (with no salary and no IRA withdrawals).

Cash paid 4-5% yearly average in the last 3 years and i used that interest to pad various investments.
That said, i never spent bitcoin to create that cushion.

EDIT: Re Saylor-there is smallish warning sign: STRD went to 70 (vs 100 at par), which is a huge discount for a bond-like vehicle. MSTR board can refuse to pay interest on STRD temporarily and would not have to pay it back (this is different from STRC , STRK and STRF). Junk bonds effective yield is now about 6.7%, but STRD is at 17% (which means market considers this vehicle vulnerable or someone shorted it with abandon).
EDIT2: If Saylor actually exchanged some btc for converts, that could be very bullish, imho, as converts are the most vulnerable part of the MSTR structure. Saylor says that they are buying, but Arkham says that they have 47K less now. Both statements could be correct, of course.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/strategy-bitcoin-holdings-drop-47-134351410.html

Yeah right, what a prettt great plan. Go ahead and take profit just right before Bitcoin price decides to skyrocket.

I’m pretty sure the market will be polite enough to wait for you to jump back on the bandwagon before it decides to take off.

And you definitely don’t have nothing to worry about those economic numbers, nothing calms one’s nerves like swapping volatility for what now? Yeah, a money market account that pays just about enough to buy you a cup of coffee every morning.

Saylor will end up with over 1 million coins by the end of 2026

I was never expecting I am going to have this price $95K, but I am happy to have and my buying working because if Saylor have target of 1 million I have target of my 1 bitcoin in 2026.

If you haven't figured it out by now, me drawing you a picture in crayon probably won't help.

Se as regras são diferentes, estamos a falar de vir haver um fork.
Bem.. Sabemos que no final é o Core (chamemos assim) que vai continuar a ser o verdadeiro Bitcoin (digamos assim).

Por isso, se a ideia do Knots é fazer diferente do que é feito de base, então tem os dias contados no Bitcoin.

mikel_012 tem razão, estão agora a querer mexer naquilo que está a dar sucesso e finalmente atrair investimento como sempre quiseram?

Provavelmente não. É somente outra implementação mesmo... Mas não deixa de ser interessante ver esse crescimento.

Eu vi uma matéria bem legal no livecoins sobre isso, contando que o Cobra estava levantando essa questão.

Parece que o Knotz limita o broadcast de transações com dados no OP_RETURN, mas pelo que entendi não faz muita diferença além disso...

Eu até criei um tópico na aba gringa perguntando informações, mas parece que não tem muito além disso mesmo.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5557375.msg65749024#msg65749024

Você já usou P2P?
Voce falando parece as mil maravilhas, mas não é, e parece que nunca usou.

A possibilidade de poder vender bitcoin no mercado p2p é excelente, mas p2p não é maravilhoso em quase nenhuma situação.

-P2p são caros. É comum cobrarem 2-5% de taxas, acima do mercado. Ou seja, se voce for vender ou comprar 30mil reais em um p2p e ele cobrar 3% (barato) são 900 reais, que você deixou ali, por nada.

-P2p é perigoso. Voce pode receber moedas roubadas ou até tomar um calote. O p2p pode ter anos operando, mas se voce for mandar lá 200 mil reais pra ele, ele pode simplesmente sumir.

As taxas de binance hoje são na faixa de 0.1%, totalmente seguro, volume altíssimo. Não existe spread nem taxas escondidas.

Mesmo na BISQ existe um risco enorme. Pois você faz sua ordem e o depósito de segurança é um percentual da ordem, sendo o padrão 35%. Ou seja, o p2p do outro lado pode roubar 65% da sua grana e pronto, não tem pra quem voce chorar.

Fazer p2p com um amigo é otimo, pois não tem nem taxas nem risco. Agora boa sorte em achar um amigo que quer comprar a mesma quantidade que voce quer vender e justamente naquela hora...

Does any of you have some bitcoin testnet coins?

With Black Friday approaching, I think it's a good idea to wait and buy on that date, as companies will certainly offer good promotions

The Safe 3 costs $79, but if you think you need something better, there is also the Safe 5 for $169 and the brand new Safe 7 for $249

OP, I'm in same boat like you. I have Nano S and Nano X. I still use it time from time, but after all stuff that was going on with Ledger, I'm not feeling comfortable with it. Was a bit lazy to upgrade to new wallet, but probably it's time.

That being said, i think trezor is the best one nowadays, and i would certainly buy one if I needed. Trezor is the best hardware wallet, and support for altcoins is important, specially stablecoins which will be much more used in the future.

Trezor is an open-source hardware wallet that supports a lot of coins.

Trezor is okay, you can try it out..
They have the Bitcoin only firmware which you can always switch to if you don’t like the universal firmware, and you can always switch back to universal anytime if you don’t want the Bitcoin only firmware anymor

I've personally used both ledger and trezor, and I can say that in both cases, the devices worked flawlessly (performing their intended function of protecting crypto), despite numerous problems with ledger. Therefore, I wouldn't buy their devices now due to the loss of trust, although I personally haven't had any problems with them.

Curious — what coins do you plan to store? That might narrow it down a bit.

Basically all you have to do is never spend twice from the same address.

You can receive multiple times in the same address, but when you spend from it you expose your public key which may lead to a quantum computer attack


This is not a risk now, but it may be some day.

I don't think that casinos demand KYC after big wins because they want to cheat players.

I think they are forced by regulations to identify the person who is receivinga high  amount of money.  This is important for many reasons, including taxes and regulations.

Ofc some casinos may try to find a reason not to pay, but I dont think this is the most common situation.

Essa situação que você falou não se aplica.
Se voce conseguir comprar 10 BTC  em uma corretora brasileira, com KYC e tudo, a prova de origem dos fundos será exigida. Ninguem faz um PIX de 6 milhões de reais (1 milhão de euros) numa boa para uma corretora de criptomoedas. O Banco mesmo vai te exigir mil explicações.

Trezor is the best wallet for anyone. So, just buy one....

About isn't an swaps inside the wallet , they will always be more expensive and the software will charge high fees.

Use uniswap or cake swap or hyperliquid or just whatever other instant swap you want... dont use the swap from the trezor suite. It will be more expensive and most likely demand kyc.

Personally, I don't think money from Gold will shift to bitcoin. I believe money from US treasuries (dollar) will flow to gold and bitcoin.

Central banks all over the world are selling their US treasuries and buying Gold. But they may also buy bitcoin soon.

Even if it is a small amount, just a few trillions would make bitcoin skyrocket.

Bitcoin and gold will coexist, they are not competing, in my opinion.

Personally, no. I've used faucets in the past, and I understand that they're a good option for those who are new to the world of cryptocurrencies and/or who are averse to the risk of casinos, so that they can get free money and bet with it without risking anything. But now that you mention it, I suppose I'll use it from time to time, when I remember, it's free money, even if it's not much, and it costs nothing to earn it.

I agree that this is a problem with trust pilot.

As trustpilot grew a lot and the score of the casinos listed there are relevant for their business, those casinos may be paying for such reviews

Initiatives like coinbets are good because casinos wont have incentives to pay reviews there at first. Maybe later on if coinbets grows in importance...

Well, 0.05$ is a very small amount and I think the regular gamblers wouldn't be satisfied only gambling with 0.05$. Also, even if you win, the amount that you will win will be very less. Yes, these faucets may be good for those who want to try the site without depositing or who do not have any funds and they satisfy their gambling urge with this faucet money.

Personally, i would be more happier getting a deposit bonus etc rather than getting tiny faucet money as then you have some substantial free money to gamble, although there are wagering requirements and other conditions associated with cashouts.

I don't think that casinos demand KYC after big wins because they want to cheat players.

I think they are forced by regulations to identify the person who is receivinga high  amount of money.  This is important for many reasons, including taxes and regulations.

Ofc some casinos may try to find a reason not to pay, but I dont think this is the most common situation.

I don't think that casinos demand KYC after big wins because they want to cheat players.

I think they are forced by regulations to identify the person who is receivinga high  amount of money.  This is important for many reasons, including taxes and regulations.

Ofc some casinos may try to find a reason not to pay, but I dont think this is the most common situation.

Another topic: Have you guys tried the Daily Bitcoin faucet button? It is pretty good, like $ 0.05 every day! allowing us to play a few games for free!

Some people suggested sending in batches, but how can I know they would send me stolen funds?

You are not down 11k anymore , because Eth is worth now only 3200... so technically 2.6 eth is just 8k.

eXch was seized because the governments and regulators (the natural enemies of bitcoin, anonymity, and the people) wanted an excuse to do it. The Bybit hack was like a blessing is disguise for them. At fault or not, they had what they needed to go after eXch and take down an operation they can't control and whose owners don't want to listen and can't be intimidated by letters and emails from three-letter agencies.   

Unfortunately,  eXch was seized because some coins from this hack were exchanged there.

I think that kyc allows to have less fraud in casino.
If person passed kyc he will use less fraud playing in casino.
What do you think about this? 

Claro.

Se o dinheiro nao tem origem, é pq a origem é provavelmente ilícita.

Se nao um traficante de drogas juntava la 10 milhoes de euros, comprava bitcoin em qq lugar e ia  pra Portugal curtir a aposentadoria. Voce acha que Portugal nao se importaria? O que impediria um traficante de fazer isso?

I don't think that casinos demand KYC after big wins because they want to cheat players.

I think they are forced by regulations to identify the person who is receivinga high  amount of money.  This is important for many reasons, including taxes and regulations.

Ofc some casinos may try to find a reason not to pay, but I dont think this is the most common situation.

They were probably already annoyed with eXch. This was the opportunity they had to act, because they hadn't been able to before.

Furthermore, this proves that it is not decentralized exchanges or mixers that make it impossible to "launder money," as they claim.

E fecharam a eXch por conta desse hack.

Pq trocaram Eth roubado la...

Lamentável. Perdemos um dos melhores serviços cripto que ja existiu.

Boa sabotag3x.  Ate compartilhei na thread da eXch

I don't think that casinos demand KYC after big wins because they want to cheat players.

I think they are forced by regulations to identify the person who is receivinga high  amount of money.  This is important for many reasons, including taxes and regulations.

Ofc some casinos may try to find a reason not to pay, but I dont think this is the most common situation.

I think people dont like ledger.
Trezor is an amazing wallet. Great device, completely safe.
I already own an old ledger, but if I need a new hardware wallet I would buy a trezor.

Trezor Safe 7 already protects its critical internal functions against quantum threats today. It is not quantum-proof because full protection requires that the blockchains also upgrade.

Personally, no. I've used faucets in the past, and I understand that they're a good option for those who are new to the world of cryptocurrencies and/or who are averse to the risk of casinos, so that they can get free money and bet with it without risking anything. But now that you mention it, I suppose I'll use it from time to time, when I remember, it's free money, even if it's not much, and it costs nothing to earn it.

Another topic: Have you guys tried the Daily Bitcoin faucet button? It is pretty good, like $ 0.05 every day! allowing us to play a few games for free!

Claro.

Se o dinheiro nao tem origem, é pq a origem é provavelmente ilícita.

Se nao um traficante de drogas juntava la 10 milhoes de euros, comprava bitcoin em qq lugar e ia  pra Portugal curtir a aposentadoria. Voce acha que Portugal nao se importaria? O que impediria um traficante de fazer isso?

I disagree, OP sent them clean funds and they sent him dirty coins in return

Exolix sent me stolen coins. Exolix is often used by hackers and shady users to process stolen funds. I believe they made a mistake and accidentally sent those funds to me.

have you tried to undergo the KYC on this service? Certainly you should, as they are the ones holding your money. If you don't do anything, your money will be lost. As you didn't scam anyone, you should really get your funds back once you prove that you didn't stolen this money.

They were probably already annoyed with eXch. This was the opportunity they had to act, because they hadn't been able to before.

Furthermore, this proves that it is not decentralized exchanges or mixers that make it impossible to "launder money," as they claim.

Hello fellow bitcoiners & Forum Members. I'm a crypto enthuasist since 2015 , If I recall correctly the first time I had learnt about bitcoin the price was  around $3500-$4000/BTC. That time the community of Bitcoin was not that spread like today, so I would hardly find someone to talk about it.

I joined on forum recently, previously I had engagement with X , reddit , Meta. So I'm wondering why this forum still has the Old School vibe. Like back in 2010-2013 we had this types of forums a lot, since than technology advanced a lot. Forums Adopted technology with it, but this one forum still has previous vibe. Why Admins didn't changed the forum. Even I saw some member's are updating some forums statistics manually , which could have done automated.

I'm just curious about it 

It shouldn't take long for this money to go back into circulation. That's how economies work.
And this also proves their hypocrisy, condemning the money that go from lazarus group to eXch, but blessing the money that go from lazarus group to other centralized exchanges 

Voce nao compra uma casa de 500k euros com dinheiro nao declarado. isso nao existe. Portugal nao é um paraíso para traficantes e terroristas.

E fundos de investimento é 100% dinheiro legal e declarado.

No final das contas, daria para a Lazarus pegar $1,2 bilhões em ETH e BTC e vender? Obvio que não. Então não foi lavado.

Mas teriam elas sido lavadas mesmo?

Pelo que eu entendi, esse track se refere apenas aos endereços definidos por eles, do inicio do hack. Se a Lazarus vai lá e manda os BTC de um desses endereços conhecidos para um novo, ele já é colocado como "gone dark" a menos que o novo endereço seja adicionado na lista.

Eu chutaria que ainda dá pra ir seguindos os endereços, mas é complicado ter que ficar fazendo essa luta de gato e rato de ficar vendo todo dia o que mudou e ir atualizando.

E fecharam a eXch por conta desse hack.

Pq trocaram Eth roubado la...

Lamentável. Perdemos um dos melhores serviços cripto que ja existiu.

Boa sabotag3x.  Ate compartilhei na thread da eXch

O que eu suspeito que eles façam é ficar movendo o dinheiro pra lá e pra cá, comprando NFT aqui, usando mixers ali, depositando em serviços por lá, e assim vai... uma hora eles sacam 1 BTC e é tanto dinheiro pela blockchain que você se perde todinho. Mas que dá pra investigar, provavelmente ainda dá.

Unfortunately,  eXch was seized because some coins from this hack were exchanged there. I wonder how many other services are also exchanging those coins now..

Acho que o chatgpt deve ajudar muito também nisso. Chegou a testar?

Chargpt é bom nessas atividades.

Voce nao consegue comprar etf com bitcoin nao declarado.

Tipo, uma coisa é voce ter 20mil reais de bitcoin.  Ai foda-se, tanto faz o que tu fizer e nao faz a menor diferença.

Mas se voce fizer 200mil dolares, 1 milhao de reais, pra cima, as coisas mudam.

Sometimes I make some winnings when I reduce the wagering of each play, to the minimum possible and just turn on the automatic
I have made a few good winnings in different casinos with such strategy... sometimes I just lose  but sometimes I do make some winnings

Yeah  it depends on luck, but playing lots of times in small values may increase your chances of you feel unlucky

O risco é nunca mais conseguir usar essas moedas nem frações delas já que as exchanges vão pedir pelo comprovante de origem.. não vai conseguir comprar imóvel, nem morar de aluguel.

Acredito que, se for aprovado, muito capital vai migrar para ETFs para mitigar esse risco de sequestro ligado a roubo/vazamento de dados de corretoras.. porque é inevitável.

Mas todo mundo está criticando esse ponto.. vamos ver se derrubam.

Se o pais daqui virar uma merda e estiverem dando cidadania em Portugal (cenário hipotetico) pra quem tiver 2 BTC.... se voce nao tiver declarado eles  , Portugal nao vai aceitar (óbvio).

Calma la. Mas voce ja pensou nos riscos de nao declarar???

Se o pais daqui virar uma merda e estiverem dando cidadania em Portugal (cenário hipotetico) pra quem tiver 2 BTC.... se voce nao tiver declarado eles  , Portugal nao vai aceitar (óbvio).

Se ficar tudo bem no pais, e vc quiser trocar seu 1 btc em um imóvel , voce nao tem como justificar o aumento de patrimônio se ele nao for declarado.

Essa história de declarar ou nao é mais complexa do que parece. Principalmente se voce tem um percentual alto dos seus bens em bitcoin

Ja está em caminhos de cair...
https://livecoins.com.br/deputado-quer-parar-regras-para-corretoras-de-bitcoin-do-banco-central-do-brasil/