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Hero of Good: - theymos , cyrus

Given it to the admin and probably the next big name I can think of other than Satoshi here in the community

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Forum Ninja: bitmover , tryninja

Tech genuines, I just respect these names due to the work they have done here and how helpful it has been for user here in the community

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Bitcoin Geek: JayJuanGee, Ddmr

These two I can refer to as forum aliens, they most certainly suit the category.

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Best Event: - Bitcoin fruit 🍓 carving contest

First of it's kind that I have seen here in the community and it blew up as it got big sponsored too and it was a real show of talent as so many persons showed their carving skills.

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Best Project: bot super notifier , talkimg.com

.I don't know if you can still vote for old projects because this two projects here have been live changing to this community because it's like the backbone to how active this place has turned out to be over the years and still deserves all the accolades

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Discovery of the Year: - Little mouse 😊

I decided to peak him because the past year was really something, I mean it was like a totally different personality and work ethics as he launched and managed the most numbers of signature campaigns here in the community and did everything smoothly without any complications so he was indeed a discovery 😁

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Craft Master: - Hhampuz , yahoo62278, julerz12

I just want to say the following are very good at their craft and thought I should select them for the position. Hhampuz is just one of a kind here in the community and his trust list speaks for him. Likewise yahoo62278, he is one of the few ones who actually understands and knows the value of what he is doing and also have positive insights to things here. Julerz12 is a tireless worker and have improved in his craft over the years coming and also a valuable asset to the community

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Local Hero: - igebotz

tirelessly worker, one of the active members here and also in the local board section of Nigeria, his work ethics and effort are being recognized and appreciated.

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Miss Bitcointalk: - Floxynice

Currently the only female running a huge loan business which have been beneficial to alot of the Nigerian community members so I think she is fitted in my opinion for this category.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 09:59:45 PM

Quote from: Baki202 on Today at 05:40:46 PM

Quote from: Jamestown70 on Today at 05:41:15 AM

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And there is nothing like over Accumulation the truth of it is that is never enough and that is one of the problem this people have I just feel they are not prepared that is why they are doing exactly what they are doing because all they are focused on is the profit and there other things to focused on and what they don't know is that the time for profit will come they only need to be more focused on accumulation before the profit.

You sound like you are just making shit up, merely because you likely don't understand the idea of overaccumulation.

It is not true that everyone always wants more no matter what.

Do you need an example to help you out or do you just want to live in a fantasy?

Let's say that a person who was in his early 40s 10 years got into bitcoin. At that time, he earned about $30k per year, and he had already been investing in various other investments, so his total investment portfolio was worth about $50k.

He decided that he was going to take 20% from his already existing investment and invest in bitcoin (so that would be $10k), and then he would start to invest into bitcoin at $100 per week. His goal was that once he is able to comfortably withdraw $0k per year from his bitcoin investment in a sustainable way, then he would quit working and then just live off of his bitcoin.

When he started investing in bitcoin in early 2016, bitcoin were selling at about $430 per bitcoin, so he was able to get right around 23 bitcoin for his initial $10 that he invested. Over the next 10 years, he ended up investing another $52k, and he accumulated about 15.25 BTC.

So right now, he is in his early 50s, and his total amount invested is $62k and he has 38.25 BTC.

He looks at a sustainable withdrawal rate calculator and he sees that right now, he only needs 14 BTC in order to have have a sustainable withdrawal rate of $80k forever and ever and ever, and also he sees that he likely could give himself a 7% raise every year in terms of the dollar amount, too. So he feels that he has enough BTC and even way more than enough BTC in light of his goals. He has about 24.25 BTC more than he needs for his goals. He also sees that right now his 38.25 BTC could support an annual withdrawal rate of $218,665 with a 7% raise in the dollar amount each year forever and ever and ever.

You want to argue that the guy does not have enough BTC?

It is quite possible that the guy had enough or more than enough BTC a few years earlier, but in this case, he had kept accumulating bitcoin and maybe he had made some mistakes in his ways of calculating the value (or the sustainable withdrawal rate) of his BTC stash. So he ends up realizing that he has nearly 3x more BTC than he needed to have for his own personal goals. Sure, it is a good problem to have, yet it does not mean that once he figures out the value of his stash that he needs more bitcoin. That would be ridiculous and/or retarded for guys to continue to seek more bitcoin when they have enough or more than enough, and yeah, some folks are capable of being satisfied with the level of their BTC (or wealth) accumulation.. even though I also recognize that there are guys who can never be satisfied as you seem to imply that everyone has that same level of psycho and greedy built within their motivations.

That status overaccumulation indicates that we already reach our goal which is we accumulated enough Bitcoin already. On that example, the subject set some goals about $80k then he already able to reach it. This means he does not need to keep chasing to accumulate more just for the sake that he need to be intact and remain relevant in the discussion.

There are investors already know that once they reach or hit their target they can stop or make everything slow like they can start to relax already since they already reached their targets.

To get satisfied is really possible especially if they reached on overaccumulation status, but there are people decide to continue maybe because they want more.

But for me If I reach over accumulation I think that I already got what those things I need and maybe what next thing to do is to plan my next possible action.

Quote from: Baki202 on Today at 05:40:46 PM

Quote from: Jamestown70 on Today at 05:41:15 AM

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And there is nothing like over Accumulation the truth of it is that is never enough and that is one of the problem this people have I just feel they are not prepared that is why they are doing exactly what they are doing because all they are focused on is the profit and there other things to focused on and what they don't know is that the time for profit will come they only need to be more focused on accumulation before the profit.

You sound like you are just making shit up, merely because you likely don't understand the idea of overaccumulation.

It is not true that everyone always wants more no matter what.

Do you need an example to help you out or do you just want to live in a fantasy?

Let's say that a person who was in his early 40s 10 years got into bitcoin. At that time, he earned about $30k per year, and he had already been investing in various other investments, so his total investment portfolio was worth about $50k.

He decided that he was going to take 20% from his already existing investment and invest in bitcoin (so that would be $10k), and then he would start to invest into bitcoin at $100 per week. His goal was that once he is able to comfortably withdraw $0k per year from his bitcoin investment in a sustainable way, then he would quit working and then just live off of his bitcoin.

When he started investing in bitcoin in early 2016, bitcoin were selling at about $430 per bitcoin, so he was able to get right around 23 bitcoin for his initial $10 that he invested. Over the next 10 years, he ended up investing another $52k, and he accumulated about 15.25 BTC.

So right now, he is in his early 50s, and his total amount invested is $62k and he has 38.25 BTC.

He looks at a sustainable withdrawal rate calculator and he sees that right now, he only needs 14 BTC in order to have have a sustainable withdrawal rate of $80k forever and ever and ever, and also he sees that he likely could give himself a 7% raise every year in terms of the dollar amount, too. So he feels that he has enough BTC and even way more than enough BTC in light of his goals. He has about 24.25 BTC more than he needs for his goals. He also sees that right now his 38.25 BTC could support an annual withdrawal rate of $218,665 with a 7% raise in the dollar amount each year forever and ever and ever.

You want to argue that the guy does not have enough BTC?

It is quite possible that the guy had enough or more than enough BTC a few years earlier, but in this case, he had kept accumulating bitcoin and maybe he had made some mistakes in his ways of calculating the value (or the sustainable withdrawal rate) of his BTC stash. So he ends up realizing that he has nearly 3x more BTC than he needed to have for his own personal goals. Sure, it is a good problem to have, yet it does not mean that once he figures out the value of his stash that he needs more bitcoin. That would be ridiculous and/or retarded for guys to continue to seek more bitcoin when they have enough or more than enough, and yeah, some folks are capable of being satisfied with the level of their BTC (or wealth) accumulation.. even though I also recognize that there are guys who can never be satisfied as you seem to imply that everyone has that same level of psycho and greedy built within their motivations.

Quote from: Baki202 on Today at 05:40:46 PM

No matter it may be we should no that they come with there own risk. And since DCA is makes everything easy, either what the case might, the what should be focused on for them to be strategic and that is the only way things like this can be made different. Most people are focused on stories than what is behind it they need to be calm. And understand what is important. Some people will not learn because what is what is bringing gambling into the picture they need to do better.

I am not exactly sure what you are saying here, yet it does seem that guys should be able to measure how aggressive that they can be in their bitcoin accumulation without overdoing it, and if guys make mistakes in the level of their aggressiveness, then they might end up losing money because of their mistakes in how they measure the level fo their aggressiveness.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 04:31:19 PM

Estamos chegando num momento que em o mundo ira ficar ou sob imperialismo americano ou imperialismo chin�s.

Parece que os" defensores da democracia" preferem a imperisliamo da ditadura chinesa . Eu prefiro mil vezes o imperialismo americano.

Exato, se o tal do imperialismo americano fosse t�o ruim assim, � am�rica do sul n�o teria tanta influ�ncia americana, assistimos filmes americanos, s�ries americanas, aplicativos, empresas, em suma, tudo americano.

Eu prefiro seguir o que mais tem prosperado e tem dado certo, olha a economia americana comparada a russa, china e etc. O nosso �nico da am�rica latina foi cair no papo dos esquerdistas, e na maioria das vezes, a am�rica do sul elegeu esquerdistas pra governar os pa�ses, olha o resultado... enquanto que no EUA, o pessoal revesou bem mais, e olha o resultado, quem prosperou mais? Preciso nem dizer. EUA!

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Quote from: bitmover on Today at 01:56:13 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 09, 2026, 09:39:35 PM

Hi Bitmover.
In the last several hours, it seems that the website is not loading. I am just getting a spinning wheel and the data is not loading.

Hello JJG.
I had a problem with coingecko API. The website made too much requests last month and got blocked.

I will try to make a permanent solution in the next days. I created an API key but the website IP is still blocked. I see what I can do soon.
Edit: maybe a temporally fix. It will bug again if we are still blocked tomorrow. I will need to look for another API or wait/request unblock

Just made a permanent solution now.
Created a new API key in Coingecko, and made a small fix in the code to make less requests. It won't block as again, I hope.

Also, it will requests prices from binance (USDT BTC pair) if coingecko API fails.
It is working again. Please tell me if you see any problem! Happy to see the tool is being useful to you!

It did start working after you had made the temporary fix that you had mentioned, and it still seems to be working.

It seems that I am accessing the site nearly every day, and surely there might be some days that I access the site 20 times or more, especially if I am interacting with some member regarding substantive contents that the website can show regarding how much value could be sustainably withdrawn at various points in time (here's an example of a post that I did yesterday) and also sometimes I might even use the simulator to project how many bitcoin would be remaining if a person had started to withdraw at some earlier date.

Once guys know how to use the site, there is a lot of power in the tool, which causes me surprise that more guys are not talking about results that they get from putting their numbers into the regular part or into the simulator or the numbers that they consider to be applicable to some forum posts that they are making. Your having had informed me through private message that the unique visitors are around 15k per month, that also seems surprising even though surely the longer the site is running, then the more likely guys will become aware of it and even learn how to use it to their advantage, even if they might not necessarily use it in the same ways that I tend to use it.

By the way, even though a while back you made some of the changes to the slider, I have found that narrowing in the range can also help me to hone in on some area and look at where the bitcoin price was during a narrow window of time, and even guys can look at their own involvement in bitcoin and compare what the did (such as the coins they bought) versus if they might have had been accumulating bitcoin for the whole time (such as starting from a certain date or even continuing to DCA during a certain period). Of course, there are also DCA websites (such as this one) that can be used to figure out DCA amounts over a period of time by plugging in the date range and the amounts of the buys that would have had occurred within that date range.

Of course, we cannot change what we did historically, yet sometimes it can be valuable to consider what we did versus what we could have had done and to make comparisons, and I frequently like to compare various scenarios to some more straight-forward DCA approach in order to frequently argue that quite a bit of value can come to those who are just persistently and consistently buying bitcoin in order to build up their stash as compared with guys who might engage in tactics to try to strategize their BTC buys based on anticipated BTC price moves - which can be quite challenging to anticipate and even frequently ending up as counter-productive to be adjusting behaviors based on BTC price changes that may or may not end up playing out.. and so then even time goes by so fast, and pretty soon we have been in bitcoin for a whole cycle or more and if we had not been buying that whole time (especially in our first whole cycle) then we may well end up with very little bitcoin to show for the passage of time that had already played out and at that point, we cannot go back.

Quote from: Nathrixxx on Today at 02:29:15 PM

Your title suggests for list of free raffles, while you're only recommending on a single one from the forum, are you not getting it at all or what, if you could go to the games and rounds section, am sure you would find as many as possible and ifnall you think of is to share opportunities, then you can as well recommend the entire board for games and rounds for people to have a look there, but always be precise in what you're posting as well as making the tile align with the contents.

You are a full member and op is still a member, you can help him because you understand better. Op wants us to participate but it is not a must. I have seen such thread like this in another local board and it is not just the op of the thread that update it with active raffles, if you are part of the local board and you see any active raffles on the games and rounds section you can as well paste the link here below your comment. (You can check the thread and turn on your translator from your browser so you can understand what they are saying).

Op you are doing well but can you be active to always bring to us raffles if anyone is available? Anyone can help with that but you are to play a big role here too because you brought the awareness to us.

However there's another raffle on the games and rounds board, y'all can try your luck there, it is not a much to join. Overlook it if you don't want to participate.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5571085.msg66278187#msg66278187

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82. 2497429: jokers10 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 3813 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
83. 2519096: Awaklara (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 815 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
84. 2652924: geophphreigh (Trust: +33 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 1103 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
85. 2654005: zasad@ (Trust: +3 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (8) 5373 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
86. 2658890: Rikafip (Trust: +14 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (22) 7545 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
87. 2709122: Etranger (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 1770 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
88. 2739424: NotATether (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (9) 9202 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
89. 2739454: Stalker22 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 1538 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
90. 2775483: BlackHatCoiner (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 9225 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
91. 2796662: Lillominato89 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1203 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
92. 3442614: YodasRedRocket (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 642 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
93. 3486361: PowerGlove (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 6718 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
94. 3540187: apogio (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (3) 2296 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)

DT 2
1. 3: satoshi (Trust: +46 / =0 / -0) (8282 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. 4: sirius (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (878 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. 203: HostFat (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (300 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
4. 2252: laanwj (Trust: neutral) (44 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. 2676: casascius (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (191 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. 2759: midnightmagic (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (27 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
7. 2786: Pieter Wuille (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (198 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. 3318: Luke-Jr (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (196 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
9. 3420: dooglus (Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (334 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
10. 4171: Raize (Trust: neutral) (24 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
11. 4528: Matt Corallo (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (15 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. 6347: Maged (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (17 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
13. 10354: JJG (Trust: neutral) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. 11275: wariner (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (4 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
15. 11425: gmaxwell (Trust: +12 / =0 / -1) (9284 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)

Weekly update (2026-01-02_Fri_05.18h)

theymos' raw data (format: time amount msg user_from user_to)
Sample

Code:

1767322059 1 178336.msg66241445 3545203 2755547
1767321823 1 178336.msg66246287 198573 64507
1767321099 2 26136.msg66243515 85033 27470
1767320875 3 5568884.msg66242500 85033 3547723
1767319855 1 5570157.msg66243757 2168312 2739424
1767318295 7 5569385.msg66210434 1068464 30747
1767318290 1 5545813.msg66246253 1856852 1265260
1767318207 3 232519.msg66246254 1068464 3594134
1767316649 1 178336.msg66246191 33156 3570710
1767316140 1 5568613.msg66246107 1265260 1856852
1767315683 2 5182222.msg66229628 1068464 805820
1767315120 1 5570180.msg66243184 831523 839568
1767315012 1 5569532.msg66244582 1593137 1414197
1767314629 3 232519.msg66246161 1068464 3716311
1767314080 1 5521271.msg66244146 1593137 1053119
1767313450 2 5516918.msg66206262 3614991 3574904
1767312450 1 5570180.msg66243184 3430388 839568
1767312160 1 5570180.msg66243184 1827294 839568
1767312002 1 5503125.msg64338145 252510 334783
1767311968 1 5570180.msg66244051 1827294 2747752
1767311956 1 5570180.msg66243184 1827294 839568
1767311813 1 5503125.msg64335426 252510 557798
1767310797 1 5561206.msg66242149 3470657 3724416
1767310173 1 5569933.msg66234727 1856852 881377
1767309027 1 5570164.msg66242763 988039 1478835
1767308881 1 5100349.msg66243667 988039 320412
1767308873 1 5489866.msg66243539 252510 751988
1767308685 1 5570073.msg66245752 1365271 1190631
1767308442 1 5569192.msg66220944 2755792 3704391
1767308213 1 178336.msg66245584 1089623 18321
1767307762 1 5268108.msg66242961 302041 2836461
1767307324 1 5533985.msg66244550 3532447 1107222
1767306955 1 178336.msg66245776 252510 3283582
1767306955 1 5268108.msg66241115 302041 1852120
1767306514 1 5570094.msg66240044 3575638 1031572
1767306475 1 5570120.msg66245819 33156 3489845
1767306248 2 5487753.msg66213864 3546930 3685373
1767306244 1 5479271.msg66245184 3528115 2015418
1767306235 1 5479271.msg66245019 3528115 335088
1767306232 1 5199499.msg66245459 2775937 1006729
1767305891 1 178336.msg66244803 33156 198573
1767305776 1 5569769.msg66227428 816893 3735576
1767305293 1 5132720.msg66245598 252510 3727026
1767304693 1 5132720.msg66245558 252510 3430388
1767304314 1 178336.msg66241445 3283582 2755547
1767304258 1 178336.msg66241216 3283582 64507
1767304195 1 5570070.msg66245297 2755792 2775483
1767304012 1 232519.msg66243280 3580530 3594134
1767303990 1 232519.msg66241686 3580530 3720043
1767302401 1 178336.msg66245557 223922 64507
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1516833930 7 2228.msg29479 135920 3
1516833833 1 178336.msg28855702 479624 1130992
1516833813 1 2817737.msg28849540 1001644 990403
1516833798 21 5.msg28 520313 3
1516833796 1 2808926.msg28728384 140584 35
1516833779 1 178336.msg28853916 479624 33156
1516833756 20 2482937.msg25417254 101872 135920
1516833713 21 5.msg28 169515 3
1516833686 1 2818179.msg28855276 994466 1196028
1516833610 49 1545652.msg15536651 206143 520313
1516833593 1 2818066.msg28855136 260067 520313
1516833592 2 2806168.msg28855427 520313 355846
1516833591 49 1545652.msg15536651 881377 520313
1516833523 1 2818066.msg28855343 539826 340795
1516833521 1 2818066.msg28855136 514126 520313
1516833478 1 2818066.msg28855136 482980 520313
1516833460 1 2818066.msg28854596 93844 520313
1516833451 1 2816214.msg28845827 1083353 1520388
1516833430 50 178608.msg28854963 884600 520313
1516833349 1 178336.msg28852898 479624 1521711
1516833346 1 2812863.msg28785611 303315 1707287
1516833329 1 2818066.msg28854596 206143 520313
1516833326 1 178336.msg28852768 479624 181806
1516833304 1 2818066.msg28853325 340795 877396
1516833289 1 2716104.msg28846824 1239985 1739247
1516833281 1 2818066.msg28853686 206143 136484
1516833252 1 2816647.msg28837916 169515 1701092
1516833251 1 178336.msg28849600 479624 172400
1516833237 1 2677441.msg28778318 123412 1090430
1516833230 1 2814078.msg28796083 520313 881377
1516833207 1 2772292.msg28837085 1189487 1028592
1516833203 1 2818066.msg28855136 101872 520313
1516833199 1 2818066.msg28853325 926641 877396
1516833148 1 2808926.msg28793321 78147 35
1516833148 1 2634042.msg28672219 123412 1094601
1516833111 1 2818066.msg28855136 535215 520313
1516833078 45 2813828.msg28801076 135920 101872
1516833070 1 2818066.msg28855136 881377 520313
1516833049 1 2677441.msg28848945 88254 903139
1516833048 1 2818066.msg28855136 101872 520313
1516833044 5 2818066.msg28855019 135920 688810
1516833001 5 2813828.msg28801076 135920 101872
1516832978 1 2384335.msg28854772 1344962 1101839
1516832969 1 2818066.msg28855136 881564 520313
1516832953 1 2818066.msg28854621 520313 101872
1516832934 1 2818066.msg28855136 877396 520313
1516832874 1 178608.msg28792130 884600 35
1516832842 5 2818066.msg28853325 688810 877396
1516832833 2 178336.msg28852079 479624 1257516
1516831941 1 2818066.msg28853325 35 877396

Full list^* (54 MB) (not limited to 120 days, 2996 Merit transactions added since my previous update).

theymos' data (human readable format, including usernames and post titles)
Sample
On Fri 02 Jan 2026 03:47:39 AM CET, DirtyKeyboard (history) sent 1 Merit to OutOfMemory (history) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion.
On Fri 02 Jan 2026 03:43:43 AM CET, Hueristic (history) sent 1 Merit to philipma1957 (history) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion.
On Fri 02 Jan 2026 03:31:39 AM CET, d5000 (history) sent 2 Merit to cygan (history) for Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf.
On Fri 02 Jan 2026 03:27:55 AM CET, d5000 (history) sent 3 Merit to Ambatman (history) for Re: Consumerism and Destructive Behavior: A Case against ANY Monetary Inflation.
On Fri 02 Jan 2026 03:10:55 AM CET, yhiaali3 (history) sent 1 Merit to NotATether (history) for Re: ترقية فيرمي تسرّع شبكة BNB.
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On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:28:54 PM CET, AdolfinWolf (history) sent 1 Merit to Lutpin (history) for Re: What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:54 PM CET, Dahman El_Harrachi (history) sent 1 Merit to theymos (history) for Re: Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?).
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:22 PM CET, Tyrantt (history) sent 5 Merit to AdolfinWolf (history) for What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:13 PM CET, Last of the V8s (history) sent 2 Merit to Rosewater Foundation (history) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:12:21 PM CET, theymos (history) sent 1 Merit to AdolfinWolf (history) for What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
Full list (569 MB)

Usernames to go with theymos' data
Sample
0: deMerit (Bitcoin Forum) (history) earned: 0 Merit.
3: satoshi (history) earned: 8282 Merit.
4: sirius (history) earned: 878 Merit.
10: Xunie (history) earned: 1 Merit.
11: madhatter (history) earned: 5 Merit.
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3741008: NINI2501 (history) earned: 2 Merit.
3741074: TechGr8 (history) earned: 1 Merit.
3741114: cutecui (history) earned: 1 Merit.
3741133: orenz0 (history) earned: 41 Merit.
3741528: MusicLand (history) earned: 1 Merit.
Full list^* (10 MB)

Usernames machine readable
Sample

Code:

0: deMerit (Bitcoin Forum)
3: satoshi
4: sirius
10: Xunie
11: madhatter
12: nanaimogold
13: SmokeTooMuch
14: The Madhatter
21: AgoraMutual
23: 1 currency now
24: dwdollar
26: NewLibertyStandard
27: riX
28: Sabunir
29: giik
30: BitcoinFX
31: Suggester
33: m0mchil
34: BlueSky
35: theymos
37: soultcer
40: xc
42: ec
49: Cdecker
51: DannyM
97: dsg
101: Goldstein
143: laszlo
145: ducki2p
146: Brandon
163: Karmicads
182: Derrick
183: hugolp
198: allinvain
203: HostFat
206: teppy
217: SirArthur
224: Gavin Andresen
237: lachesis
241: QuantumMechanic
244: nixoid
251: wobber
262: chaord
267: virtualcoin
269: Bitcoiner
270: llama
271: Timo Y
274: limikael
284: joey.rich
288: Stone Man
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3738152: Fresh_Milk
3738205: xXHenneBXx
3738277: TheNextBigThinger0x0
3738491: meangoat
3738543: InvestigatingWOZX
3738697: art3m1s_37
3738700: KawasakiNinja1_
3738840: Rah12345
3738956: boombitty
3739036: Unixx
3739052: AmlRiskMonitor
3739109: Bjoern90
3739221: marywill9020
3739255: Amzender
3739266: NyktersteinMD
3739326: Raisero
3739388: Vanellp
3739483: JaredIbrahim
3739490: Blour
3739617: Chononaut
3739632: Sheylon
3739635: coupcoup
3739636: cudumbro
3739640: darkrangerat
3739781: BigNoteh
3739792: Wildead Casino
3739859: clex88
3739996: hikrimen
3740053: georgino22222
3740057: Becassinewantstocomeback
3740061: Baseplate
3740085: Taurox
3740105: Tinubu
3740133: TokenTsunami
3740134: AI Buster
3740293: Eze BTC
3740425: untruth997
3740508: durcoin
3740518: clayderman
3740569: CryptoVoyager24
3740677: emiliamuller6710
3740690: AML Bot
3740756: Kunda2025
3740817: cleanycleany
3740953: contesthunters.com
3741008: NINI2501
3741074: TechGr8
3741114: cutecui
3741133: orenz0
3741528: MusicLand

Full list (2 MB)

UserIDs, sent Merit and earned Merit machine readable
Sample

Code:

0:569:0
3:0:8282
4:0:878
10:0:1
11:0:5
12:0:1
13:3:76
14:0:11
21:0:2
23:0:1
24:0:9
26:0:19
27:0:54
28:0:13
29:0:4
30:380:773
31:0:1
33:0:27
34:0:4
35:14218:13865
37:0:6
40:0:4
42:0:69
49:0:5
51:0:2
97:0:2
101:0:2
143:0:2483
145:0:1
146:0:4
163:0:21
182:1:0
183:9:1
198:2:83
203:68:300
206:0:14
217:3:36
224:0:1412
237:0:5
241:0:9
244:0:1
251:0:1
262:0:1
267:0:2
269:0:1
270:0:52
271:0:1
274:0:42
284:0:6
288:0:10
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3738152:0:3
3738205:0:8
3738277:0:1
3738491:0:2
3738543:0:1
3738697:5:12
3738700:0:7
3738840:0:6
3738956:0:1
3739036:2:5
3739052:0:3
3739109:0:2
3739221:0:1
3739255:0:1
3739266:0:3
3739326:0:1
3739388:1:5
3739483:0:10
3739490:0:3
3739617:0:3
3739632:0:1
3739635:0:1
3739636:0:3
3739640:0:2
3739781:0:4
3739792:0:1
3739859:0:4
3739996:0:2
3740053:0:1
3740057:1:2
3740061:0:3
3740085:0:6
3740105:3:6
3740133:0:2
3740134:0:1
3740293:0:1
3740425:0:2
3740508:0:1
3740518:0:4
3740569:0:2
3740677:0:2
3740690:0:9
3740756:0:1
3740817:0:2
3740953:0:2
3741008:0:2
3741074:0:1
3741114:0:1
3741133:0:41
3741528:0:1

Full list (1 MB)

Total number of users who received 1 or more Merit: 50801
Sample

Code:

1. 19789 Merit received by LoyceV (#459836) from 1088 unique users in 11368 transactions
2. 19637 Merit received by fillippone (#1852120) from 737 unique users in 10750 transactions
3. 18881 Merit received by o_e_l_e_o (#1188543) from 801 unique users in 9981 transactions
4. 14973 Merit received by El duderino_ (#1067333) from 476 unique users in 8633 transactions
5. 13865 Merit received by theymos (#35) from 1215 unique users in 4966 transactions
6. 12736 Merit received by JayJuanGee (#252510) from 699 unique users in 8498 transactions
7. 11957 Merit received by Symmetrick (#2627711) from 773 unique users in 6854 transactions
8. 11369 Merit received by icopress (#1137579) from 561 unique users in 4389 transactions
9. 11304 Merit received by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) from 486 unique users in 6323 transactions
10. 11235 Merit received by DdmrDdmr (#1582324) from 649 unique users in 6435 transactions
11. 11129 Merit received by pooya87 (#379147) from 595 unique users in 6479 transactions
12. 10534 Merit received by cygan (#27470) from 497 unique users in 5533 transactions
13. 10155 Merit received by philipma1957 (#64507) from 570 unique users in 5801 transactions
14. 9633 Merit received by xhomerx10 (#120694) from 328 unique users in 4938 transactions
15. 9396 Merit received by nutildah (#317618) from 625 unique users in 5069 transactions
16. 9284 Merit received by gmaxwell (#11425) from 334 unique users in 3305 transactions
17. 9225 Merit received by BlackHatCoiner (#2775483) from 450 unique users in 4598 transactions
18. 9202 Merit received by NotATether (#2739424) from 511 unique users in 4292 transactions
19. 9065 Merit received by GazetaBitcoin (#1285797) from 386 unique users in 3216 transactions
20. 9060 Merit received by d5000 (#85033) from 423 unique users in 4910 transactions
21. 9001 Merit received by TryNinja (#557798) from 532 unique users in 4084 transactions
22. 8533 Merit received by ABCbits (#359716) from 527 unique users in 4609 transactions
23. 8511 Merit received by suchmoon (#234771) from 573 unique users in 4833 transactions
24. 8451 Merit received by dkbit98 (#1410401) from 451 unique users in 4998 transactions
25. 8397 Merit received by Pmalek (#112493) from 566 unique users in 4924 transactions
26. 8282 Merit received by satoshi (#3) from 404 unique users in 884 transactions
27. 8180 Merit received by nc50lc (#1237156) from 399 unique users in 4271 transactions
28. 7545 Merit received by Rikafip (#2658890) from 452 unique users in 4185 transactions
29. 7543 Merit received by 1miau (#2143453) from 490 unique users in 4111 transactions
30. 7225 Merit received by bitmover (#1554927) from 571 unique users in 4282 transactions
31. 7127 Merit received by mikeywith (#2033515) from 401 unique users in 3636 transactions
32. 6718 Merit received by PowerGlove (#3486361) from 227 unique users in 1731 transactions
33. 6560 Merit received by DaveF (#300014) from 370 unique users in 3302 transactions
34. 6535 Merit received by achow101 (#290195) from 273 unique users in 2961 transactions
35. 6526 Merit received by hosemary (#995810) from 381 unique users in 3555 transactions
36. 6511 Merit received by Hhampuz (#881377) from 932 unique users in 4202 transactions
37. 6363 Merit received by stompix (#164749) from 475 unique users in 3539 transactions
38. 6248 Merit received by AlcoHoDL (#998490) from 197 unique users in 3633 transactions
39. 6213 Merit received by The Sceptical Chymist (#487418) from 620 unique users in 3477 transactions
40. 6140 Merit received by jeremypwr (#137185) from 219 unique users in 3591 transactions
41. 6136 Merit received by Charles-Tim (#2776678) from 407 unique users in 3567 transactions
42. 6021 Merit received by Lucius (#533583) from 520 unique users in 3504 transactions
43. 6012 Merit received by n0nce (#3373858) from 194 unique users in 2628 transactions
44. 5983 Merit received by cAPSLOCK (#35501) from 226 unique users in 3395 transactions
45. 5980 Merit received by NeuroticFish (#257071) from 450 unique users in 3354 transactions
46. 5977 Merit received by OmegaStarScream (#375981) from 405 unique users in 3259 transactions
47. 5970 Merit received by joker_josue (#97582) from 324 unique users in 2783 transactions
48. 5725 Merit received by Hueristic (#198573) from 201 unique users in 3292 transactions
49. 5373 Merit received by zasad@ (#2654005) from 412 unique users in 2640 transactions
50. 5312 Merit received by lovesmayfamilis (#1982152) from 440 unique users in 3773 transactions
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50752. 1 Merit received by 1ceStorm (#2342907) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50753. 1 Merit received by 1ce (#1019784) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50754. 1 Merit received by 1camtron (#1236351) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50755. 1 Merit received by 1apayment (#1855631) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50756. 1 Merit received by 1907KFY (#1935217) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50757. 1 Merit received by 16xypjnxlrew (#2705665) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50758. 1 Merit received by 16tonn (#3560052) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50759. 1 Merit received by 15horses1donkey (#560958) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50760. 1 Merit received by 15519028115Q (#3575647) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50761. 1 Merit received by 15262kk (#291561) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50762. 1 Merit received by 14z4rus (#3669471) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50763. 1 Merit received by 1453ist (#1431126) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50764. 1 Merit received by 1453eko (#1431103) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50765. 1 Merit received by 13Winter13 (#919666) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50766. 1 Merit received by 13ex07 (#1207068) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50767. 1 Merit received by 13dizel (#1208678) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50768. 1 Merit received by 1357924680 (#333305) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50769. 1 Merit received by 12tribes (#1221082) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50770. 1 Merit received by 12assa34 (#1729394) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50771. 1 Merit received by 123tm (#848549) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50772. 1 Merit received by 123pogi123 (#2252156) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50773. 1 Merit received by 123exo123 (#1919155) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50774. 1 Merit received by 112_blockchain (#2081987) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50775. 1 Merit received by 11:11pas (#1306783) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50776. 1 Merit received by 1083ivangod (#1952712) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50777. 1 Merit received by 101Crypta (#1287691) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50778. 1 Merit received by 100x (#80115) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50779. 1 Merit received by 100steeze (#3637720) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50780. 1 Merit received by 100%_Shared_FreeBitco.in (#2531436) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50781. 1 Merit received by 100monet (#323057) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50782. 1 Merit received by 1000x (#3509491) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50783. 1 Merit received by 1000usdforwife (#1547718) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50784. 1 Merit received by 1000alasan (#2458354) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50785. 1 Merit received by 0xMuted (#3713926) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50786. 1 Merit received by 0xBrian (#2625170) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50787. 1 Merit received by 0xb100d (#1342964) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50788. 1 Merit received by 0x77 (#3316521) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50789. 1 Merit received by 0x1Knowledge (#2000899) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50790. 1 Merit received by 0vx (#2805438) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50791. 1 Merit received by 0RajA0 (#1151527) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50792. 1 Merit received by 0nion (#3614135) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
50793. 1 Merit received by 0bit (#493268) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
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50797. 1 Merit received by 00hello (#2471124) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
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50799. 1 Merit received by $imple$imon (#2060672) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
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11. 33417 Merit sent by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) to 1567 unique users in 13641 transactions
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16. 27491 Merit sent by EFS (#140584) to 1390 unique users in 7075 transactions
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26445. 1 Merit sent by 2drive (#1304704) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26446. 1 Merit sent by 2andahalfBTC (#1142164) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26447. 1 Merit sent by 27QVUTZj8rgZP1 (#662730) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
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26450. 1 Merit sent by 214missy (#1285563) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26451. 1 Merit sent by 212fox (#1342293) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26452. 1 Merit sent by 1xbitpatnar (#3475604) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26453. 1 Merit sent by 1r0n (#1252002) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26454. 1 Merit sent by 1pool Ltd. (#2062862) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26455. 1 Merit sent by 1melyun (#543052) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26456. 1 Merit sent by 1cyrax00 (#964210) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26457. 1 Merit sent by 1CryptoSmurf (#1352746) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26458. 1 Merit sent by 1chempion123 (#1346880) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26459. 1 Merit sent by 1cak (#1136856) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26460. 1 Merit sent by 1amCrypt0 (#933826) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26461. 1 Merit sent by 19Nov16 (#921267) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26462. 1 Merit sent by 19nataliya12 (#1873934) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26463. 1 Merit sent by 19dimasik77 (#881779) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26464. 1 Merit sent by 1971ECPT (#3553473) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26465. 1 Merit sent by 17buratin (#1187494) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26466. 1 Merit sent by 13ex07 (#1207068) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26467. 1 Merit sent by 13Charlie (#76987) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26468. 1 Merit sent by 12retepnat34 (#1053271) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26469. 1 Merit sent by 10yearsolder (#1094878) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26470. 1 Merit sent by 10sat (#1162504) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26471. 1 Merit sent by 10casproj (#3515598) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26472. 1 Merit sent by 10BTCaDay (#396522) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26473. 1 Merit sent by 100kk (#1316426) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26474. 1 Merit sent by 100eth (#1324600) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26475. 1 Merit sent by 0xBitcoins (#2205183) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26476. 1 Merit sent by 0xBet (#3572636) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26477. 1 Merit sent by 0x0333 (#1913654) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26478. 1 Merit sent by 0vn1 (#1216048) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26479. 1 Merit sent by 0virtual (#1244555) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26480. 1 Merit sent by 0id1d (#3600764) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26481. 1 Merit sent by 0Alvaren0 (#2020991) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26482. 1 Merit sent by 01BTC (#1756786) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26483. 1 Merit sent by 01bits (#1629161) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26484. 1 Merit sent by 00HasH (#841746) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26485. 1 Merit sent by 00DKM@ (#1311705) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26486. 1 Merit sent by 00.00WIB (#3392171) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
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Merit per day of the week
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Tuesday 317283 (14.26%)
Wednesday 318466 (14.31%)
Thursday 339900 (15.27%)
Friday 337200 (15.15%)
Saturday 294329 (13.23%)
Sunday 298059 (13.39%)
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Quote from: bitmover on Today at 12:58:39 PM

Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 11, 2021, 09:52:04 AM

I don't mind making a small donation if you were to post a wallet address here or on the webpage - I can do both mainnet and lightning network bitcoin payments.

Do you know what sort of costs you have annually to have the page up and running? (are there substantial discounts for bulk buy e.g. ten years)?

Hey Timelord2067

Thanks for believing in this project. I almost shut it down in 2021, when I had to renew the domain registrar. Thanks to your donation, I created many projects here since that time, and even got some sponsors and was able to accumulate some sats from it.

And time flies, nearly 5 years have passed. I will certainly renew again this year.

Thanks!

It's really incredible that 5+ years have already passed. It seems to me that we recently talked about the beginnings of bitcoindata.science. Time flies.
I saw recently that you got a well-known sponsor, glad you get something back for your efforts.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 11:02:17 AM

Na Europa tb tem polariza��o, mas a esquerda predomina em boa parte dos pa�ses. A It�lia � onde a direita tem crescido mais, e na Alemanha (que sofreu muito com pol�ticas de esquerda nas ultimas decadas da Merkel).

A direita � contra a imigra��o e quer reduzir gastos e investir em defesa militar. N�o � algo muito popular n�. Distribuir benef�cios da mais votos Cheesy

Conta a� suas impress�es joker_josue

Sem entrar em quest�es de politicas, que n�o gosto de falar de politicas.

O que se v� � que nos �ltimos 10 anos, a Europa tem recebido muito imigrante do norte de �frica, mas especialmente da Asia (Bangladesh, Paquist�o e �ndia).
As pessoas que veem, al�m de virem por meios de gangues de imigra��o ilegal/explora��o, tem uma cultura e estilo de vida muito diferente, e n�o s�o pessoas que normalmente se tentam integrar na sociedade onde chegam. A maioria quer continuar a seguir o seu modo de vida.

Isso acaba por causar um choque cultural e social. Por sua vez, chegou tanta gente, os servi�os sociais dos pa�ses deixaram de conseguir dar resposta a minimamente de qualidade a todos os cidad�os, sejam nacionais ou n�o.

Visto que se segue ideias de igualdade, todos recebem o mesmo tipo de tratamento medico, por exemplo. Resultado? Os hospitais, centros de sa�de e afins, tem de atender 3 ou 4 vezes mais pessoas do que tinham sido preparados, sendo essas 3x mais estrangeiros. Isso leva a muitos sentirem que os impostos e afins, est�o a ser usados para ajudar cidad�os estrangeiros em vez dos pr�prios pa�ses.

Claro, que esses estrangeiros, na maioria paga impostos tamb�m, mas ao mesmo tempo gerem um mercado paralelo que acaba por prejudicar toda a sociedade. Vivem em casas sub lotadas, onde a higiene � baixa (esses povos n�o tem os mesmos padr�es de higiene europeu) e � f�cil o espalhar de doen�as. Por sua vez, acaba por ficar doentes e irem para os hospitais com uma dificuldade maior de recupera��o - menos vacinas tomadas e menos defesas biol�gicas.

Logicamente eles n�o tem culpa disso, mas o facto de n�o serem pessoas com uma integra��o social f�cil, acaba por complicar tudo. Al�m disso, muito do trabalho que eles realizam, os europeus nativos n�o queriam fazer e o evitariam.

Enfim, os pa�ses est�o a sofrer com um problema, que qualquer sociedade sofreria, com o aumento repentino da popula��o. As estruturas preparadas 1000 pessoas/dia, passam a ter de atender 4000 pessoas. Isto em quest�o de poucos meses ou anos, dificultando a cria��o de novas estruturas. � imposs�vel de lidar, causando ent�o essa revolta generalizada.

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Quote from: bitmover on January 09, 2026, 03:29:51 PM

Aqui as coisas s� v�o melhorar quando a crise for braba mesmo. Aconteceu na epoca da Dilma. Estamos agora esperando o Lula terminar de quebrar o pa�s... essa elei��o PT vai levar, ainda mais com ajuda do STF...

Tamb�m acho que vai ganhar.. e se voc� acha que est� ruim com o Lula, imagina na outra elei��o quando ele sair.. v�o botar "outra Dilma" tipo Boulos ou Haddad no lugar, mas ai acho que ser� o fim do PT e aparece uns nomes como do Nikolas que tem maior popularidade do que a fam�lia Bolsonaro, Tarc�sio, etc e at� pode levar no 1� turno..

Pro Brasil eleger um "Milei" vai demorar muito, ainda precisa de muito mais PT para a galera se revoltar.

Quote from: joker_josue on Today at 07:47:31 AM

A quest�o � que as pessoas da Europa e dos EUA, n�o querem voltar a sofrer esses apertos.

Hoje falar de dinheiro � bem diferente do que era h� 20-30 anos atras. Atualmente, as pessoas ouvem falar dos contratos hiper milion�rios do desporto, do top dos mais ricos do mundo com fortunas capazes de comprar pa�ses ricos, youtubers que ganhas milh�es, artistas que tem fortunas, entre muitos outros valores de milh�es e milh�es. Se existe tanto dinheiro a circular, porque � que se tem de "cortar"? As pessoas n�o querem.

O problema � que � isso que � ensinado/promovido nas escolas: estuda, monta uma startup e afins, e vais ganhar milh�es.

No final acho que tudo o Mundo vai pagar caro esta postura, uns v�o come�ar mais cedo, mas todos v�o levar por tabela. Nem esses super milion�rios v�o escapar.

Ai tamb�m tem essa polariza��o esquerda vs direita? quem est� governando o pa�s agora?

Meses atr�s vi uns v�deos de um casal de brasileiros que passou uns dias visitando Portugal.. falaram um pouco que os portugueses est�o incomodados com a migra��o para trabalho (mas j� est�o recebendo melhor os brasileiros, porque a outra op��o s�o pessoas de outros pa�ses que sequer falam portugu�s).. sobre o turismo, elogiaram como foram tratados.

Tamb�m vejo algo no X/Twitter �s vezes quando passa na minha timeline, tem uma galera ai MUITO incomodada com a imigra��o.. pelo que vejo de longe � na Europa inteira, na verdade.

Quote from: bitmover on January 09, 2026, 03:29:51 PM

Na Europa e nos EUA aconteceu isso tamb�m, decadas atr�s. (margaret thatcher, por exemplo)

O problema � que depois que as coisas melhoram o povo come�a a querer benef�cios de novo. Na Europa como s�o muito ricos, deram muito benef�cios e ainda n�o quebraram. Mas eles est�o numa situa��o bem ruim agora, com falta de inova��o, irrelevancia no cen�rio global, problemas de seguran�a nacional, etc...

A quest�o � que as pessoas da Europa e dos EUA, n�o querem voltar a sofrer esses apertos.

Hoje falar de dinheiro � bem diferente do que era h� 20-30 anos atras. Atualmente, as pessoas ouvem falar dos contratos hiper milion�rios do desporto, do top dos mais ricos do mundo com fortunas capazes de comprar pa�ses ricos, youtubers que ganhas milh�es, artistas que tem fortunas, entre muitos outros valores de milh�es e milh�es. Se existe tanto dinheiro a circular, porque � que se tem de "cortar"? As pessoas n�o querem.

O problema � que � isso que � ensinado/promovido nas escolas: estuda, monta uma startup e afins, e vais ganhar milh�es.

No final acho que tudo o Mundo vai pagar caro esta postura, uns v�o come�ar mais cedo, mas todos v�o levar por tabela. Nem esses super milion�rios v�o escapar.

As a Brazilian, I agree with what bitmover pointed out. What we pay for one product here would be enough to buy three or more if we lived in the United States, since here our conversion base is the dollar (I think it must be in many countries too, I don't know).

But the tax you are charged in Bangladesh, both the current one and the previous one, is also absurd. I don't know why, but I thought it would be lower, given the proximity to the main exporters and manufacturers. I had the idea that it was expensive here, not only because of taxes, but also because of the shipping cost and the distance.

Hi Bitmover.

In the last several hours, it seems that the website is not loading. I am just getting a spinning wheel and the data is not loading.

Quote from: cxtreenal on Today at 04:27:42 PM

Quote from: Merit.s on January 08, 2026, 03:43:25 PM

Quote from: cxtreenal on January 08, 2026, 03:29:09 PM

Many investors will be tempted by the ATH before Bitcoin reaches the overaccumulation stage. Many will be tempted by others to sell. For them this habit will create investment breakdown. They will think about this kind of mental exit again and again. They should be mentally prepared to replace it after selling not the entire Bitcoin but a part of it. At least during the price decline it would be wise for those investors to try to recover the assets or fractions that they withdrew.

I find it comforting to think that reaching the over-accumulation stage may be delayed but if they continue to do DCA regularly those investors will at least be proud of their Bitcoin accumulation that they are holding the digital asset (Bitcoin) as their real assets grow.

You don't need to sell any of your bitcoin when you haven't reached your bitcoin target because it will slow your bitcoin accumulation pace down. Instead of growing, you are destroying. Don't be carried away with dollar profits because it will make you lose focus on your bitcoin accumulation goal.

You might think that you are smart enough to sell some part to buy back when the price dip, it's a wrong mentality because you are deviating from a long-term investor into a trader. Gradually, when you see a little profits, you will want to sell hoping to buy back and before you know it, you are depreciating your bitcoin portfolio growth due to lack of patience, sacrifice and commitment till you reach your bitcoin target.

A new investor should forget about profit but focus on accumulating bitcoin through DCA till you reach your bitcoin target because the future profits is the best and sweetest with no regrets. So why are you in a rush to take profit from your premature investment. You might think that you want to tap a little profits and before you know it, you'll sell too many bitcoin too soon and regret your actions.

Surely... This is what every investor should do. It is not right to decide to withdraw Bitcoin before reaching the overaccumulation level. Some investors make the foolish decision to withdraw their long held Bitcoin in the pursuit of small profits. The idea of selling during the ATH period can slow down their Bitcoin accumulation. Staying consistent in Bitcoin and regularly running DCA will be the right decision for you.

No.. many investors think that selling when the price rises and buying back when the price falls thats one kind of gambling. Investors who have at least a little knowledge about investing will be able to understand that if they have been accumulation Bitcoin for two years and decide to sell part of it before reaching the overaccumulation level, they will never get back the previous buying price. If you know about these advantages and strategies of doing DCA, you can keep DCA running to keep Bitcoin holdings intact even after reaching the overaccumulation level.

Part of the problem of starting to withdraw too soon is that the stack size has not gotten to a large enough size in order to allow the withdrawal amount to be sufficiently large enough to really make a difference.

If I guy were to have a $30k per year income ($2,500 per month) and he had been investing into bitcoin fairly aggressively at $100 per week, which is 17% of his income, then time investing into bitcoin really makes a difference in terms of both building the bitcoin stash and then just allowing it to appreciate (to the extent that it is going to appreciate in value). If we look at the historical result in mostly 2 year increments, we see that it takes time to build up a BTC stack size that would end up justifying meaningful sustainable withdrawal amounts. If the stack size is too low, then it does not make sense to withdraw from it and/or deplete the principle that had been being built up.

At 2 years investing he would have had invested: $10,500 He would have had accumulated: 0.1352 BTC and currently, his sustainable withdrawal rate would be yearly: $70 and monthly: $65 ^**

**Note: you can plug in the numbers for each of the below amounts from the above linked websites

At 4 years investing he would have had invested: $21,000 He would have had accumulated: 0.54 BTC and currently, his sustainable withdrawal rate would be yearly: $3,100 and monthly: $257

At 6 years investing he would have had invested: $31,400 He would have had accumulated: 1.164 BTC and currently, his sustainable withdrawal rate would be yearly: $6,650 and monthly: $554

At 8 years investing he would have had invested: $41,800 He would have had accumulated: 2.754 BTC and currently, his sustainable withdrawal rate would be yearly: $15,740 and monthly: $1,311

At 9 years investing he would have had invested: $47,000 He would have had accumulated: 5.27 BTC and currently, his sustainable withdrawal rate would be yearly: $30,110 and monthly: $2,509

At 10 years investing he would have had invested: $52,400 He would have had accumulated: 15.257 BTC and currently, his sustainable withdrawal rate would be yearly: $87,164 and monthly: $7,263

In the above examples, we see that the invested amount of the hypothetical guy does not cause a sustainable withdraw amount that is above his current income until at 9 years, so it shows that it can take time to get the sustainable rate up to a level that is meaningful, which seems to mean that ongoing contribution towards building the bitcoin helps to get the stack size up to higher levels and that there is danger if the bitcoin stack size ends up getting depleted before it reaches an amount that will support some meaningful sustainable withdraw amount.

If the stack size is depleted, then it will support ONLY a smaller sustainable withdrawal rate or probably contribute towards guys who don't engage in sustainable withdraw, but instead deplete their bitcoin stash (which means selling too much too soon).. which is part of the reason to focus on getting the stack size higher rather than being concerned about the extent to which the BTC is in profits or not.

It seems that the profit level of the bitcoin stack will likely work itself out with the passage of time, yet the main idea should be ongoingly getting the stack size up so then at some point in time it will start to make sense to start to withdraw from it - hopefully in a sustainable way rather than a way that overly depletes the stack.

Quote from: FeeBuddy on Today at 07:00:37 AM

Could not fetch mempool fees.

This means the fees are over? Are we finally free from this drama? Roll Eyes

Quote from: MusaMohamed on January 08, 2026, 03:24:51 PM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on January 08, 2026, 02:29:16 PM

I believe the better question would be, "To those who made money from trading from January, 2023 to October, 2025. Did your capital grow more from your trading compared to Bitcoin's performance during that time period"?

I'm very confident that more than 60% of those "traders" have NOT outperformed Bitcoin during the Bull Cycle.

If they trade Bitcoin with spot, and if they are skillful, they can have better ROIs than holding bitcoins but most traders don't have these necessary things for profit from trading in long term. They even take risk with margin and futures tradings that only make their trading results worse, turn from profit with spot to loss with margin and futures tradings.

With Bitcoin, the safest practice is investment by buying it and holding it a long time in your open source and non custodial wallets.

DCA Bitcoin.
Hold it.
And take profit gradually after you reach to your Bitcoin accumulation target.

Bitcoin withdrawal strategy for your investment.

I believe that even if a person doesn't have "very good" trading skills and if they were very efficient with their capital by buying DIPs, discounts and HODL, then they would have obviously outperformed those shitcoin "traders".

Why?

Simple. Watch Bitcoin's performance from 2023 to 2025, then compare it to the performances of most of those shitcoins that "traders" like to buy and sell.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 11:58:00 AM

Quote from: Monarch- on November 10, 2025, 02:04:55 PM

Since we offer the best sport odds on the internet, we're getting hit pretty hard by sportsbetting syndicates that create dozens of accounts to circumvent the limits.

Can you explain this a little better?

What kind of incentives people have to create multi accounts? The best would be to remove such incentives.. because if someone can make money by creating multi accounts to abuse some limits or whatever, there will always someone trying to do this. Kyc wont solve.

If they remove those incentive or the best sports odds they offer is all of their sports bettor would suffer, I think this is not good to all gambler since the action done by few people should not be the reason why all players could not get those benefits they offer to their gamblers.

But its good to know that they are posting those things since we could see that they are active fighting abusers and multi account users which exploit their system. If those bonus or odds abusers will slowly taking down, there's good chance that the problem would slowly shrink. Those abusers will not came back here to repeat same actions especially if they know the casino is so strict and eventually will bust those illegal actions they have done.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 08:15:13 PM

Quote from: DYING_S0UL on Today at 08:07:22 PM

The title implies the subject. I would like to know your opinion, what do you all think? Do you guys have this much TAX on mobile devices in your places?

To sum up, recently the tax for imported mobile devices were reduced to 43.3% here at Bangladesh. Previously it was 61%. Can you imagine how high it was?

Typical day in life of any Brazilian Cheesy

Basically any technology gadget ranges from 40-100% taxes.

Poor countries aren't poor because Europeans stolen our goods or whatever... Our country is poor because we are rules by idiots and corrupted politicians.

And at the end of the day, these corrupt high officials flee the country with millions-billions of laundered money, crippling the entire economy of the country (this is what we saw at the previous dictators era). These idiots aren�t able to stop this corruption, but they are eager to kick poor people out of their employment. We, the people, are always the collateral damage. Leaders changes, power shifts, but corruption? Nah, that is rooted in everyone with power here.

We aren't poor because we have less money, we are poor because our money is hidden in black, these high official MF avoiding taxes. Even with unofficial phones, these sellers are contributing to our economy, and with 15�20% TAX, they would more, but what the govt doing now is threatening them with a knife at their neck. They will have no choice but to hang themselves.

Quote from: bitmover on January 04, 2026, 10:39:39 AM

I think it depends on what service you are promoting, to get good results.

Plus how many members are following you possibly from the local community. Considering the % he really made good profit and it also depends on the amount too.

Quote from: CCECash on Today at 07:42:05 AM

In the first half of the year, the market will face a so-called "strategic reset," where institutional investors' rebalancing actions may lead to increased price volatility and a relatively difficult market performance.

That means the first phase is to accumulate more Satoshi, and this analysis is really a good one to get an overview of the whole year and of course it can change later according to the sentiments and we must prepare for that too.

Quote from: Wind_FURY on Today at 02:29:16 PM

I believe the better question would be, "To those who made money from trading from January, 2023 to October, 2025. Did your capital grow more from your trading compared to Bitcoin's performance during that time period"?

I'm very confident that more than 60% of those "traders" have NOT outperformed Bitcoin during the Bull Cycle.

If they trade Bitcoin with spot, and if they are skillful, they can have better ROIs than holding bitcoins but most traders don't have these necessary things for profit from trading in long term. They even take risk with margin and futures tradings that only make their trading results worse, turn from profit with spot to loss with margin and futures tradings.

With Bitcoin, the safest practice is investment by buying it and holding it a long time in your open source and non custodial wallets.

DCA Bitcoin.
Hold it.
And take profit gradually after you reach to your Bitcoin accumulation target.

Bitcoin withdrawal strategy for your investment.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 02:53:17 PM

Olha, a ledger tem seus problemas (seed online, uma fun��o opcional, vazamento de dados de emails, etc...), mas n�o vejo sentido em uma nota t�o baixa. Acho ela melhor que a maioria.

HW serve pra proteger as moedas. Se eu n�o tenho certeza que as minhas moedas est�o seguras, a carteira n�o serve. E com a ledger elas est�o seguras.

Ainda n�o parei para ver o que eles falam da Ledger (v�deo muito longo).. mas esses vazamentos de dados � complicado, de nada adianta ser a mais segura se voc� tiver uma arma apontada para o seu joelho Cheesy

Mas novamente.. eu acho que � uma an�lise mais para "multi-milion�rios".. para pessoas comuns como n�s meio que tanto faz mesmo (ainda mais se os seus dados n�o vazaram).. qualquer uma ali serve e � quest�o de gosto/or�amento.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 02:53:17 PM

O cara quer reinventar a roda. BIP-39 foi um divisor de �guas em cripto. � o padr�o da industria.

Tem at� um topico sobre isso, que a Bitcoin Core e a Electrum n�o usam, mas � uma discuss�o t�cnica irrelevante pra quem s� quer guardar suas meodas.

Trezor usa o SLIP-39 como padr�o, essa � a cr�tica.. https://trezor.io/slip39

Para aumentar a confus�o, tamb�m s�o 1.024 palavras, mas n�o s�o as mesmas do BIP-39: https://github.com/satoshilabs/slips/blob/master/slip-0039/wordlist.txt (excluem coisas parecidas como all/wall/call/fall j� que a lista inglesa do BIP-39 � bem ruim nesse sentido)

N�o acho irrelevante.. pesquisei aqui e Electrum n�o importa esse SLIP-39, por exemplo.. voc� vai ficar ref�m da Trezor se usar essa porra ai.. as seeds do "jeito Electrum" tamb�m n�o devem funcionar em nenhum outro lugar.

Ha, bitmover, yeah it always takes a while to figure out the idiosyncracies of a sportsbook -- my tiny "gripe" with Whale (it's not a complaint, it's a snowflake comment haha) is that you can't see the full bet history. Profile will show wager history, but I can't see how I won/lost that amount as I made my early bets a long time ago.

That said, thanks Whale for this generous freebet Wink

All in on Liverpool of course!

Quote from: bitmover on January 07, 2026, 10:31:50 PM

E que carteiras sao essas na frente da trezor? Qual o motivo?

A carteira mais testada pelo tempo... o cara precisa de um motivo muito bom para dar uma nota tao baixa pra trezor e dar nota boas para essas desconhecidas que nem tiveram ainda o teste do tempo.

Ele fala que as Model One e Model T tem uma vulnerabilidade onde algu�m com acesso f�sico a eles pode extrair as chaves privadas.. j� � um grau de paranoia muito maior que o habitual.. s� se o cara for multi-milion�rio ou tiver feito alguma merda grande para estar na mira do governo para se preocupar com isso (IMO o cara teria problemas maiores do que isso nesse cen�rio Cheesy

)

Estou vendo o v�deo aqui, ele cita que a Trezor est� empurrando o SLIP-39 no lugar do BIP-39 como se fosse melhor, impondo seu uso (diz que o BIP-39 est� meio escondido na gera��o da seed.. e ai boa sorte buscando compatibilidade dessa seed em outra carteira).. tamb�m citam a necessidade de usar o app da Trezor para configurar ela e o chip n�o ser 100% open-source.. basicamente � s� por isso que n�o est� mais alto na lista.

A diferen�a da 3 e 5 pra 7 na lista � quest�es de facilidade de uso mesmo (bot�es vs touch), nada sobre seguran�a.

OBS: O "PIA" que tem ali no print ao lado de cada carteira � sobre o p�blico alvo: "Principiante, Intermedi�rio e Avan�ado"

Quote from: Forsyth Jones on January 07, 2026, 11:34:23 PM

Pois �, a Coldcard em primeiro posso at� concordar, logo em seguida, Passport e Bitbox em segundo. Na minha tier list, eu deixaria a coldcard q, mais a passport e a Krux em primeiro. O resto eu n�o conhe�o.

Essa bitkey eu tamb�m n�o conhe�o.

O seedsigner tamb�m � interessante. A ledger eu provavelmente colocaria em D ou E...

Tamb�m n�o conhe�o essas outras.. falam bem pouco sobre a Bitbox, s� falam que � bem vers�til.. vendo o v�deo eu achei o uso BEM estranho e o backup tamb�m parece muito mais complicado do que anotar as palavras, usam um microSD.. aqui tem um v�deo r�pido da pr�pria marca sobre como se usa: https://youtu.be/tQhw-QCtiyo

O site da fabricante � at� melhor que essa review para comprar.. fala que elas funcionam com BIP-85, tem contas unificadas, comunica��o criptografada entre app e dispositivo, suporte a Tor (Safe 5 tamb�m tem), e n�o � feito na Fran�a ( Cheesy

) fonte: https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/

Est� custando US$ 170 (ent�o deve custar R$ 1.700 no Brasil)

Passport (Foundation) parece um Nokia antig�o (a outra vers�o ali parece um smartphone pequeno com touch) e trabalha com pilhas/baterias (n�o entendo muito espanhol para saber o que � 'pilas').. design muito interessante, discreto e f�cil de usar..

Resumo: n�o tem conex�o por cabo (s� para carregar), nem bluetooth (a vers�o "Nokia", a com touch tem).. vale a pena assistir esse trecho, come�a em 1h56m

Ali falam US$ 199 (provavelmente chegaria a R$ 2.000 no Brasil), mas no site est� sem estoque.

Ali tamb�m tem um guia de pre�os:

Por quest�o de pre�o, funcionalidades e minha necessidade de uso, eu ainda acho que a Trezor tem o melhor custo-benef�cio.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 10:31:50 PM

Quote from: sabotag3x on Today at 07:34:53 PM

Achei essa tierlist de carteiras de hardware:

Code:

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Imagino que voc� v� gostar @Forsyth Jones por querer uma Coldcard Q Tongue

Ainda n�o parei para ver o v�deo completo, mas estou curioso para saber porque a carteira do Jack Dorsey (bitkey) est� l� no final da lista..

Fonte: https://youtu.be/pGjJKOZL_zA

E que carteiras sao essas na frente da trezor? Qual o motivo?

A carteira mais testada pelo tempo... o cara precisa de um motivo muito bom para dar uma nota tao baixa pra trezor e dar nota boas para essas desconhecidas que nem tiveram ainda o teste do tempo.

Pois �, a Coldcard em primeiro posso at� concordar, logo em seguida, Passport e Bitbox em segundo. Na minha tier list, eu deixaria a coldcard q, mais a passport e a Krux em primeiro. O resto eu n�o conhe�o.

Essa bitkey eu tamb�m n�o conhe�o.

O seedsigner tamb�m � interessante. A ledger eu provavelmente colocaria em D ou E...

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 10:27:55 PM

Twitter has good discussions, just like bitcointalk have. You just need to know how to navigate in this forum, which is a lot harder than in Twitter or Facebook etc...

I must be getting old. I absolutely despise Twitter and how its laid out. I wouldn't know as I don't have twitter any more, but didn't they go away from chronological sorting of ports?

I'm sure there's some great discussion elsewhere. I won't say there isn't, but if you want a discussion where's the first place that pops into your mind? It has to be here. Reddit and Twitter I see more as news and reaction to the new, rather than getting into the very ins and outs of Bitcoin or related spaces.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 04:13:09 PM

There should be fun tokens which do not cost any money for individuals like that.

They can play, win or lose, they wont make or lose money.

If someone decides to deposit real money, then gamble real money, they should be ready to lose money as well.

It is easy if you cant lose money, but if you win you can withdrawal lol

Even not fun tokens, just demo modes but both will do as they're having play money to just enjoy the games without having to take risk. The aura changes when it comes to real money and real gamble happens. Very easy to think of winning and just withdraw when it's the result. But when losing, there's a need to accept it rather than looking to blame the casino when they didn't pushed us to gamble and deposit in the first place.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 04:13:09 PM

Quote from: macson on January 06, 2026, 12:14:06 PM

Users like this continue to exist, and they always make excuses for their own mistakes. They claim they're vulnerable and the casino should have protected them from their addiction, which I find rather ridiculous.

These are adults and should be responsible for themselves. They keep blaming the casino for protecting them, even though they themselves were the ones gambling irresponsibly in the first place.

I understand why Bitz ignores them. It's simply ridiculous to comply with their demands.

There should be fun tokens which do not cost any money for individuals like that.

They can play, win or lose, they wont make or lose money.

If someone decides to deposit real money, then gamble real money, they should be ready to lose money as well.

It is easy if you cant lose money, but if you win you can withdrawal lol

There should be places reserved for people who believe rules, laws, terms, and contracts only apply when convenient. Places where you can freely cherry-pick which provisions have force based on personal ideology.

That is not how contracts work.

Section 6.8 of Bitz�s Terms of Service and its Self-Exclusion Policy are no less binding than any other section of the TOS. They are not optional. They are not aspirational. They carry the same force as wagering requirements, withdrawal limits, and country restrictions.

If personal beliefs could override written terms, then no part of a casino�s TOS would be enforceable. A player could ignore rollover requirements. A casino could ignore withdrawal obligations. Both could simply claim disagreement and move on.

Because you cannot defend Bitz�s conduct under its own published terms, you are left relying on how you feel about addiction and personal responsibility. Those feelings are irrelevant here. They were irrelevant on Monday, and they remain irrelevant now.

This dispute is governed by written rules. When those rules are inconvenient, they do not disappear.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 04:13:09 PM

There should be fun tokens which do not cost any money for individuals like that.

They can play, win or lose, they wont make or lose money.

Most casinos allow players to experience their games in demo mode. Not live dealer games, but at least slot games. Since this is Bitz's thread, we can use them as an example. Just find the slot game you want to play, hover over it with your mouse and select "Demo." There are two buttons: "Demo" and "Play." In demo mode, you will still be playing the real thing but you can't win or lose anything.

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Quote from: bitmover on December 24, 2025, 03:22:32 PM

I see you have in your roadmap support for USDT and USDC. What about DAI?

We've received a lot of requests for DAI, so after the release we will focus on stablecoin integration, with DAI being the first stablecoin we plan to add.

Quote from: bitmover on January 05, 2026, 11:06:34 AM

Pois �, o que tenho visto de "defensor da democracia" defendendo ditador....

Enquanto isso a venezuela vibra.

Algu�m sabe algum jeito de investir na Venezuela? Botar uns 10mil reais l� pode render muito Grin

E o pior � que eu s� vejo os esquerdistas putos com a queda do maduro, enquanto que eu ainda n�o vi um cidad�o venezuelano reclamando dos EUA de ter capturado maduro.

Agora misteriosamente, est�o acusando o EUA de roubar petr�leo da Venezuela, ora, como se o maduro n�o tivesse roubando petr�leo que os venezuelanos n�o viam nem a COR do dinheiro do petr�leo, nacionalizaram tudo a petrobras deles, saqueavam petr�leo com os cubanos, iranianos... agora que o EUA invadiram pra capturar o maduro sem uma guerra (sem baixas de civis aparentemente) est�o pagando de moralistas. Quase 30 anos de ditaduras, eles n�o falam do sangue derramado, do Oscar P�rez que morreu lutando contra essa ditadura.

A venezuela era o pa�s mais rico da Am�rica Latina, foi totalmente destru�da pelo socialismo e estamos amea�ados do mesmo acontecer aqui, espero que n�o tenhamos o mesmo destino.

Vejam esse caso de venezuelano que minerava Bitcoin na venezuela e que conseguiu se proteger da infla��o de l� e sair da venezuela gra�as ao Bitcoin: https://x.com/carol_bitcoin/status/2008237534363500802

Eu gostaria de ver mais casos assim, j� ouvi muito falar sobre esses casos de venezuelanos minerando Bitcoin para driblar o sistema de l�.

The only thing under attack here is bitmover�s reading comprehension and ability to process the actual record. Everything he just claimed is incorrect and unsupported by the evidence.

Bitz did acknowledge the request.
They acknowledged receipt of the self-exclusion request and stated a 7-day exclusion would apply. The problem is not acknowledgment. The problem is that they then said the mechanism to start it was unavailable and refused to apply any safeguards.

I did not ignore their rules. They failed to follow them.
Their own Self-Exclusion Policy (which they later removed) explicitly allowed self-exclusion by contacting support. Their Terms directed players to a Responsible Gaming section that was non-functional. When the tool was unavailable, they still had a duty to act manually. They later proved manual action was possible by eventually doing it.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 10:07:40 PM

You bet 13k and lost. If you had won 13k would you give back?

I am sorry for your loss, but this is how world works. I may be wrong in some sense, because bitz is even giving you back 5k which I find very impressive.

A bet is a bet. You cannot lose and then " i am sorry, I am addicted, give me back money "

This is also true for trading. People also losemoney trading.

I am impressed that bitz even decided to refund you 50% of your losses...

This has nothing to do with my signature. This is my opinion. I have lost and I have won. But I have never asked for refund when I lost.

Good luck in your claim.

Your takeaway misses every material fact in the record, so let me simplify this for you. This dispute is not about losing a bet or asking for a refund after the fact. It�s about documented misconduct by the operator. Since you seem to be overlooking the basics, here is a short list of what actually happened.

   1.   Self-exclusion was requested before any deposit was made or bet placed.
This was not a post-loss excuse. It was a time-zero request.

   2.   Bitz acknowledged the self-exclusion request and then refused to apply it.
That is a direct breach of their own responsible gambling obligations.

   3.   The Responsible Gaming and Self-Exclusion system was nonfunctional for weeks.
Bitz admitted it was �under maintenance� from December 7 through January 2.

   4.   Bitz claimed manual safeguards were impossible.
No account block. No deposit limits. No exclusion. All denied.

   5.   Bitz continued accepting deposits and promoting gambling while safeguards were unavailable.
That is operating without protections.

   6.   Bitz�s own Self-Exclusion Policy explicitly allowed exclusion by emailing support.
They ignored those emails.

   7.   Bitz removed the Self-Exclusion Policy from its website mid-dispute.
That is concealment of governing terms after deficiencies were exposed.

   8.   Manual exclusion was applied only after escalation and a formal demand.
Proving manual action was always possible.

   9.   A $5,000 refund offer followed while Bitz retained roughly $8,800.
That is damage control, not goodwill.

   10. Bitz refused to cooperate with AskGamblers, causing the complaint to close.
Silence was a choice.

   11.   This is not about losing a bet.
It is about denying safeguards, misrepresentation, concealment, and stonewalling.

I�ll remain active in this ANN to hold Bitz accountable, so if the goal today was to run interference or derail the discussion, it hasn�t worked. That said, I won�t be engaging with you further. Your responses show a disregard for the evidence that would disqualify you from any serious evaluation of the facts.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 09:00:47 PM

Quote from: ptaylor78 on Today at 04:44:09 PM

https://casino.guru/complaints/bitz-casino-player-s-account-has-not-been-self-excluded

https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/bitz-casino-responsible-gaming-failure-at-bitz-after-gambling-addiction-disclosure

Bitz is well aware of all the details of this complaint. As virasog noted, if Bitz doesn�t care enough about its reputation to reply here or to third party mediators, what makes you think creating a brand new thread will cause them to be responsive?

Bottom line is that your suggestion that Bitz being "attacked" in their ANN is the reason why I haven't received substantive response from Bitz is not supported by the record. Bitz has decided to hide and be silent across all online platforms, while continuing to promote themselves on Bitcointalk.

If that is genuinely your takeaway after reading the complaint and reviewing the evidence, then the problem is not the record. It is your reading comprehension.

This is not a player asking for a refund after losing. The complaint documents pre-deposit responsible gambling violations, written disclosure of gambling addiction, repeated self-exclusion requests, denial of safeguards, and continued acceptance of deposits while Bitz claimed those safeguards were unavailable. That distinction is fundamental. You missed it entirely.

Framing this as �you lost gambling, take responsibility� ignores the core issue and conveniently mirrors Bitz�s talking points. That makes your position clear. Whether by choice or incentive, you are defending the casino rather than engaging with the facts.

You are free to hold whatever opinion you want. But dismissing documented evidence and reducing this to a bad-beat narrative does not rebut the complaint. It simply confirms why Bitz�s silence and reliance on loyal campaign participants speaks louder than any actual defense.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on January 03, 2026, 09:00:47 PM

This is the final level of investment and those who are doing that should already have their own version of financial freedom so it's possible for them to start trying to withdraw little by little what they've done before and it's possible that this could also happen for those who are in the early phase of bitcoin who are holding it until now but still doing DCA until now so it's possible that this will happen for overaccumulation like what you're describing.

But for now it seems that most of us especially those in this discussion should not think too much about it now because surely most of us are still not at this stage considering we are still in the consistent DCA stage and I am quite doubtful for over accumulation so it is better to focus on one goal first before actually being in this phase.

I also have some troubles imagining guys getting to overaccumulatoin prior to 4-years of being in bitcoin especially in the last 3 years, the BTC price had mostly been going up the whole time, so it becomes harder to get to overaccumulation unless you were really able to front load the investment prior to October 2023.. Sure it is possible, but not very many guys get into bitcoin and are able to put a lot of money into bitcoin from the start, and even if they are able to, they might still need to pace themselves in terms of how they deal with their bitcoin.

Maybe I can give an example.. to continue with my hypotheticals from my other post - above.

Hypothetical 5 - guy with $30k income & $1,800 per month of expenses - who has been investing for 4 years (since January 2022). Before he came to bitcoin, he had already been investing in other assets for more than 15 years, so he already had good financial management in place and sufficient back up funds. He already knew that within his first year of investing into bitcoin, he was going to put about a year and a half of the size of his income into bitcoin (from his other investments). Therefore, he invested $900 per week starting in early 2022 and in his first year he invested $48k into bitcoin and accumulated 2 BTC. Since the bitcoin price stayed down throughout 2023 (mostly below $30k), he continued to buy about $200 per week and accumulated another 0.4 BTC... So then after two years between early 2022 and late 2023, his total invested amount is $58k and he has about 2.4 BTC. He likely still felt that he did not have enough bitcoin since in early 2024, his 2.4 BTC would still support an income of about $7,200 per year ($600 per month),^** so he felt hat he has to continue to invest as aggressively into bitcoin as he can, and he likely is going to need another couple of years investing in bitcoin to get to a point that he might start to feel that he can let off on his accumulation of bitcoin. He is planning on increasing his income and perhaps his investment amount to beyond $200 per week.

**By the way, even though 2.4 BTC would have had ONLY supported an income of $7,200 per year in early 2024, right now (a mere 2 years later), I am of the opinion that 2.4 BTC would support a sustainable income of $13.640 per year ($1,137 per month), so historically, there has been value with the passage of time in merely maintaining the same quantity of bitcoin, even for those guys who might not be able to continue to grow their bitcoin stash.

Of course, maybe we can consider even more extreme scenarios in which a guy is able to reallocate even more into bitcoin, even though it is pretty aggressive to allocate 1.5 years of income into bitcoin in merely 1 year's time... and, surely if guys invest so much into bitcoin, they might not feel that they can invest more or that they might feel that they should start to slow down on their investment, since they had already put a lot of their income into bitcoin.. and yeah, some guys are more fortunate because they have other investments and value that they can draw upon and reallocate into bitcoin, yet an overwhelming majority of people do not have abilities to draw from other sources to be able to reallocate into bitcoin - so we should not be presuming that they have those abilities, even though surely there could be some guys who had either been able to build up other investments prior to coming into bitcoin and/or they come accross decent amounts of money (such as an inheritance or some fortune in their business) so that they are able to come up with a lot of money and then still have to decide the extent to which they are going to put it into bitcoin and if they do decide to put it into bitcoin, what might be the most feasible way for them to accomplish allocating into bitcoin without causing themselves too much stress.

There could be some guys who decide to withdraw a lot of money all at once.. so in the above example of having $48k, which is about 1.5 years of their current income available and to decide to invest most of it, if not all of it at once rather than either deferring by DCA or deferring by buying on dips that might not end up happening. There can be BIG dilemmas, even with guys who have lump sum amounts available, yet guys with lump sum amounts available surely have more options as compared to an overwhelming majority of normal people who may well struggle to be able to put 10% to 15% of their income into bitcoin... so many times, normal people are going to be, at best, able to put 10% to 15% of their income into bitcoin, and those who are ready, willing and able to put more than 15% into bitcoin are in a good position in terms of the amount of their discretionary income, even though it still might take them some time to build up their bitcoin stash, even if they have decently good amounts of discretionary income that they are able to invest into bitcoin.

This exception would arise if it came from those who are in different circles such as influencers with great wealth or people like Saylor who have above average economic quality but this would not be possible for people who only invest from discretionary funds from the monthly income of ordinary employees.
Even if the salary we have is enough for the month but to over accumulate will obviously be very difficult especially when matching with the hypothesis you provide where even that much income must take time to make them over accumulate.

So for the majority (especially for the majority of investors in this thread alone as a comparison) who only invest around $10-$100 (maybe there are more) it is clear that the condition of over accumulation becomes impossible if the target given is only 1 cycle or not even reaching 1 cycle such as 2 or 3 years even though they invested in 2021/2022 when bitcoin was at $16k at that time.
Those who even claim themselves to be overaccumulating when they are in that timeframe seem to be so overconfident that I personally would consider it as nonsense.
But if the possibility exists (although I think it's still unlikely) they must have succeeded with the investment made, it's just that I'm pretty sure most of us here are still not at that stage.

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Quote from: OutOfMemory on Today at 10:09:17 AM

Quote from: BobLawblaw on Today at 02:10:47 AM

Everyone calm the fuck down, OK?

I don't want to see any happy-posting!

So you sold below $92k then? Tongue

Even though Bob has specifically denied selling, this is what happens, and I suppose even guys who might be exercising price-based and/or time-based sustainable withdrawal, they are needing to figure out systems under which to do it - and I am thinking that price-based sustainable withdrawal is earlier to arrive at as compared with time-based sustainable withdrawal.. and it seems to me that Bob has shown some levels of been torn in regards to which one he is in, even though surely he is likely in a position that he can scrape some of his corn off at any price (which would be more of a time-based sustainable withdrawal), yet all of us realize that if we can, then it tends to be better to sell when the BTC prices are up rather than down, to the extent that we can determine that.

I have been practicing with price based sustainable withdrawal since 2015 and time-based sustainable withdrawal since 2022. I think that for me, practice has help me to clarify my own parameters in regards to how to do it with my own attempts to be more robotic about it.. so that if I figure that I need a certain amount of money by a certain date, I would most likely already made sure that I extracted it or may be I tweak here or there in order to get it.

In regards, to price based sustainable withdrawal, of course, when the BTC price went up from $15,479 in late 2022 to $126,272 in October 2025, I had sell orders going all the way up, so in attempting to premeditate the potential ups and downs of that and even how far the BTC price might go up or not, there might be an attempt to ballpark how much extra value might be needed to extract for spending, and maybe there are some thoughts about how long that it might take to go up and how far it is going to go and how much extra value will come of out it as "extractable." I suppose that since I have been doing some version of this since 2015, I have gotten some practice in doing it, even though I frequently have made mistakes in regards to how much I had extracted since I had been using some of that money for buying back and so if the price dips more than expected, that extra extraction has, from time to time, run out.

My own time-based sustainable withdrawals just withdraw no matter what the BTC price (as long as the price is at least 25% higher than the 200-WMA - which it has been at least that high since November 2023, and even though I have a few practice systems of those, the amount withdrawn ends up being less than 5% of the amount that I could authorize myself to withdraw based on the 200-WMA valuation.

I suppose that more tension could come if thought to be sustainable withdrawal systems are being pushed towards the higher ends of their abilities, and surely some guys also don't think in terms of sustainable withdraw but instead think in terms of principle depletion, or how much of their principle they are able to deplete per year. I don't really like the principle depletion ways of managing bitcoin holdings, even though surely a guy who might have had 400 BTC in October 2017 could have had depleted 25% of his BTC holdings every single year, and he still would have around 137.6 BTC in his stash. You can plug the numbers into the simulator. So historically, there have been ways to be quite aggressive in bitcoin withdrawals and still largely maintain the value of the stash.

You're absolutely right there. It's the perfect partner strategy for DCA, too.
But my reply to Bob was really just a joke, based on his statement not to sell in late 2025.
And well, now that it's 2026, i got triggered by an impulse of irony i couldn't really withstand Grin

Quote from: OutOfMemory on Today at 10:09:17 AM

Quote from: BobLawblaw on Today at 02:10:47 AM

Everyone calm the fuck down, OK?

I don't want to see any happy-posting!

So you sold below $92k then? Tongue

Even though Bob has specifically denied selling, this is what happens, and I suppose even guys who might be exercising price-based and/or time-based sustainable withdrawal, they are needing to figure out systems under which to do it - and I am thinking that price-based sustainable withdrawal is earlier to arrive at as compared with time-based sustainable withdrawal.. and it seems to me that Bob has shown some levels of been torn in regards to which one he is in, even though surely he is likely in a position that he can scrape some of his corn off at any price (which would be more of a time-based sustainable withdrawal), yet all of us realize that if we can, then it tends to be better to sell when the BTC prices are up rather than down, to the extent that we can determine that.

I have been practicing with price based sustainable withdrawal since 2015 and time-based sustainable withdrawal since 2022. I think that for me, practice has help me to clarify my own parameters in regards to how to do it with my own attempts to be more robotic about it.. so that if I figure that I need a certain amount of money by a certain date, I would most likely already made sure that I extracted it or may be I tweak here or there in order to get it.

In regards, to price based sustainable withdrawal, of course, when the BTC price went up from $15,479 in late 2022 to $126,272 in October 2025, I had sell orders going all the way up, so in attempting to premeditate the potential ups and downs of that and even how far the BTC price might go up or not, there might be an attempt to ballpark how much extra value might be needed to extract for spending, and maybe there are some thoughts about how long that it might take to go up and how far it is going to go and how much extra value will come of out it as "extractable." I suppose that since I have been doing some version of this since 2015, I have gotten some practice in doing it, even though I frequently have made mistakes in regards to how much I had extracted since I had been using some of that money for buying back and so if the price dips more than expected, that extra extraction has, from time to time, run out.

My own time-based sustainable withdrawals just withdraw no matter what the BTC price (as long as the price is at least 25% higher than the 200-WMA - which it has been at least that high since November 2023, and even though I have a few practice systems of those, the amount withdrawn ends up being less than 5% of the amount that I could authorize myself to withdraw based on the 200-WMA valuation.

I suppose that more tension could come if thought to be sustainable withdrawal systems are being pushed towards the higher ends of their abilities, and surely some guys also don't think in terms of sustainable withdraw but instead think in terms of principle depletion, or how much of their principle they are able to deplete per year. I don't really like the principle depletion ways of managing bitcoin holdings, even though surely a guy who might have had 400 BTC in October 2017 could have had depleted 25% of his BTC holdings every single year, and he still would have around 137.6 BTC in his stash. You can plug the numbers into the simulator. So historically, there have been ways to be quite aggressive in bitcoin withdrawals and still largely maintain the value of the stash.

Quote from: Paashaas on Today at 12:44:58 PM

Won't be shocked if Bitcoin print a red candle below $90k when U.S market opens.

Next week U.S senate will finalize crypto bill.

Lot's of money waiting to enter.

Yep the pattern of weekly dumps contribute towards a lot of hesitancies for the levered longs.. but the regular longs should not become overly shy about these going long matters.

And yeah, so far no dump.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 03:14:01 AM

What is there to be happy about.?

Every day I wake up is cause for celebration.

On more than one occassions, when I was complaining about the challenges of diminishing capacity and/or energy that comes with aging, you had said that "age is just a number," and surely, I don't agree with any of that - even though I would agree with any assertion that sometimes we have to expend energy in order to retain energy - even though we cannot always know if we might be overdoing it or doing the wrong things or anything that we really can do to preserve various aspects of our energy.

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Quote from: Paashaas on Today at 12:44:58 PM

Won't be shocked if Bitcoin print a red candle below $90k when U.S market opens.

Next week U.S senate will finalize crypto bill.
Lot's of money waiting to enter.

Looks fine to me?

2 CME gabs to be filled at $91k and $88k.

When unfilled than it would be filled next real bear market after reaching final $180,000 - $280,000 ATH.

Yeah, but do they really need to be filled?

Even though I am no expert (meaning that I don't know shit about CME gaps besides hearing them being mentioned previously), I have my doubts.

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Quote from: Paashaas on Today at 06:12:11 PM

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I'll gladly take that. I think a squeeze above $100k would return us to bullish sentiment. Many people are really afraid because of the cycle theory stuff, that is why they got so sentimental in the last few months at any sign of negative performance. The bears here won't like your forecast though. Grin

It is quite likely that there are a lot of guys who overly bet on one version of events over another version of events without realizing that overall no matter which version of events ends up playing out, they are not sufficiently and/or adequately prepared for up.... so if they fail/refuse to prepare for UP, they end up screwing themselves and potentially slowing their progress in getting to some variation of fuck you status.. including that if they keep up such ongoing dumbass behaviors, they may well never end up getting to fuck you status.. and yeah, too bad that bitcoin had come as a savior (or a life boat) yet so many folks have failed and continue to fail/refuse to recognize bitcoin as the savior/life boat that might not otherwise be available for them and their life circumstances.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 11:05:44 AM

A binance � a maior corretora do brasil em volume disparado, mesmo sem o CNPJ brasileiro. Parece que o pessoal n�o se importa de pagar 15%, at� pq para os peixes grandes 35mil reais em um m�s n�o � nada....

Ela est� nadando de bra�ada no mercado brasileiro

Ent�o, se o pessoal continua a usar, mesmo com essas taxa adicional, eles realmente n�o precisam de fazer nenhum ajuste.

Agora, as pessoas usam por desconhecer a taxa extra que devem pagar?

Quote from: bitmover on January 04, 2026, 10:52:51 AM

Ofc $20 per week in a videogame is ridiculously high amount of money
Dont waste your money like that. But you can buy one player from time to time.

In 1 month he can spend $80 on a game buying coins, this for me is too much, yeah once in a while it doesn't matter the important thing is to have experienced buying players to add to the account, actually that should be enough.

Quote from: bitmover on January 04, 2026, 10:52:51 AM

Also remember that $ 20 per week in bitcoin won't change your life. You need to invest more than that.

$20 per week for 5 years I think it can change their lives, the problem is whether they can be consistent? Cheesy

Quote from: bitmover on January 04, 2026, 10:52:51 AM

Remember that bitcoin wont skyrocket like 10 years ago. Bitcoin isn't as risky as before, so the prize won't be so high anymore.

Yes I agree with this, the movement of bitcoin will not be like it used to be, the future increase may be with 2x it is good enough.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 04:35:11 PM

Quote from: ptaylor78 on Today at 04:10:40 PM

What is actually happening on Bitcointalk with this casino, Bitz_Casino?

You are just attacking bitz.io here and you provided zero information about your claim.

My suggestion: create a new thread , give all the details about your complaint there, and share the thread link here. I will take a look and other users too.

Just attacking their service without providing information proves nothing and you will be ignored.

Your link in ask gamblers doesn't work on my side.

The claim that I have provided �zero information� is incorrect.

The complaint is fully documented and publicly available on AskGamblers and Casino Guru. The AskGamblers link works and is accessible. The record there includes timelines, screenshots, correspondence, and third-party evidence. I am intentionally not reposting the entire case in the ANN to avoid cluttering this thread.

This is not an attack without substance. It is a summary of documented conduct paired with Bitz�s continued refusal to address it publicly. If Bitz believes the allegations are unfounded, the appropriate response is to engage with the mediators or clarify the record. Silence and continued promotion do neither.

If you want to review the details, the mediator complaints are the correct place to do so.

Opens perfectly fine for me when clicking the link. Perhaps you may want to check your internet connection.

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Quote from: Zwei on January 04, 2026, 07:34:28 PM

i think they intended for it to work like the forum does, but it's not working or is bugged like some other stuff on their website.

The forum keeps you logged basically forever, for like more than a year without any login request.

Bitz.io keeps asking for our login credential basically every 1 or 2 weeks, in my experience.

I don't think it is a bug, but just the way they set up the persisting login feature.

I haven't logged out of a forum in years. I can't remember the last time I had to type in a password.
While my login on Bitz expires after a few hours, it's not a big deal, except that sometimes it can be annoying to wait for the page to load before the login status appears fully.

Quote from: bitmover on January 03, 2026, 07:51:48 PM

Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on January 03, 2026, 07:43:36 PM

I also did the same thing. Because I think when KYC is done on a site for me it is the last choice that I have to do so as long as the site does not ask for it then I will play without KYC but when there is an urge to do it especially when it can be a condition as a withdrawal then inevitably I will do it because I don't want my gambling activities to be disturbed here.

Previously it was even worse when there was a KYC site even I would immediately leave it but now it seems that this is not too doable, although there are still some sites that do not require KYC in it but most of the others make KYC policies tightened so inevitably we have to do it.

You are right.

Kyc should only be completed if you really need. Handling out your documents is always risk, because your documents may leak from the casino database ...

we should always try to avoid sending our documents on the internet. To exchanges, casinos, or any other service. We should do it only when requested.

Although KYC on trusted sites gives us a little more trust, our personal data is still important so as long as it is not needed, why should we provide it.
This may depend on individual choices as a gambler but I think as long as I can still do without KYC it is very good but if it must be forced to do KYC as one of the conditions especially for withdrawals made then inevitably we have to do it.

For this condition I don't really have a problem as long as it is in accordance with the ToS that applies on the site but as long as it is not really needed (for KYC) then I prefer to avoid it.

Quote from: bitmover on January 03, 2026, 12:58:51 PM

I think that forcing users to login every time makes people login less often. It is a good idea to make a persistent login system which actually works well and won't logout automatically for at least 1 month.

i'm surprised they even have a feature like this. i don't think any other casino i used before has a "keep me logged in" option, you just log in once and you are set.

Quote from: bitmover on January 03, 2026, 12:58:51 PM

This kind of system isn't easily abused. Google accounts for example never logout, even my bitcointalk account never logout automatically. I see no reason to keep logging out automatically after just a few hours or few days...

i think they intended for it to work like the forum does, but it's not working or is bugged like some other stuff on their website.

Quote from: jcojci on Today at 10:30:43 AM

Actually, that is preventions for safety. But some users feels that is annoy which makes them keep re-login if they don't use the site. We can wait clarification from the teams and what will they said later.

what safety? what does logging people out save them from exactly? it's not like players are logging into their casino accounts on random devices.

So far 54.47568145BTC have been "donated" to the Genesis block (or whatever the purpose is to send and very very likely immobilize those coins, bloating the UTXO set). Well... hooray!?

Current balance at time of this post according to combo(PubKey of Genesis block's coinbase) descriptor of my Genesis block watch-only wallet, including the unspendable 50BTC of coinbase tx: 104.47568145BTC (546sat pending/not yet confirmed).

This may differ slightly from what mempool.space or bitcoindata.science displays because the combo() descriptor^{see below} accounts for all address types (except Taproot, IIRC).

Code:

combo(04678afdb0fe5548271967f1a67130b7105cd6a828e03909a67962e0ea1f61deb649f6bc3f4cef38c4f35504e51ec112de5c384df7ba0b8d578a4c702b6bf11d5f)#gvgcz9wt

Quote from: ejikeme24 on Today at 09:29:22 AM

That is the reason why we need to think properly before doing something, well I can't possible say that they will regret it because they might have invested on something like business or other things, maybe they are just having fun with the little money that is Left. I can only agree with you when you said that they will regret it if they don't have any business or investment, if there's none, definitely they will regret it. However, I must say that you're very smart to come up with this idea because most people feel that $20 is too small but if you keep saving it for like 4 years or more, then you will see how important it is to save no matter how small the amount is more especially when you're saving in Bitcoin.

It's not that they don't know about my investment, but I told them about it, but they laughed it off and told me that now is their time to have fun, to enjoy, so they are not thinking about the future for now. Those who don't understand can be explained, but those who don't want to understand can't be explained, that's why I stopped discussing these things with them. Now I will just keep trying my best to reach my goal.

Quote from: The Cryptovator on Today at 10:49:12 AM

Quote from: UpTober on Today at 06:21:09 AM

That's why I said this in the headline, I am smarter than them because I don't spend money on games, but my thinking is that if I stop spending $20 a week on games and keep buying Bitcoin with $20 a week, then after four years my total capital will be over $4,000, and it will not be limited to capital alone because there will definitely be positive changes in the market in this long period of time. That's why I said in the middle of my post that they will regret it in the future and if I can continue investing consistently as planned, then I will smile with success.

That would be the right decision investing in Bitcoin. It doesn't matter the amount; even small amounts together will be bigger once a day. Playing online would be fun, but it doesn't necessarily have to be paid for. You may entertain yourself with free games, rather than paying money for fun and enjoyment, and saving and investing in Bitcoin would be the right choice. Agree with you that your friends would regret it later when they see you already have a decent amount saved in Bitcoin.

After investing a small amount, you may realise more about Bitcoin, and then you might be interested in investing more. But even if you keep investing such an amount for a couple of years and hold longer, then also you will have a decent amount. Because Bitcoin is constantly raising in price and value, so your investment will be your future.

When I was a child, my father used to tell me that when you start something, do not consider any work small in the beginning and remember one thing, from the beginning comes the river. I think I am trying my best and by trying my best, the amount of money I can buy Bitcoin with every week is a lot for me. I just want to maintain the continuity of this purchase. Your words will work as more inspiration for me, and I will try to invest more money consistently in the future.

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Quote from: UpTober on Today at 06:21:09 AM

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That's why I said this in the headline, I am smarter than them because I don't spend money on games, but my thinking is that if I stop spending $20 a week on games and keep buying Bitcoin with $20 a week, then after four years my total capital will be over $4,000, and it will not be limited to capital alone because there will definitely be positive changes in the market in this long period of time. That's why I said in the middle of my post that they will regret it in the future and if I can continue investing consistently as planned, then I will smile with success.

That's DCA and it's good. $4,000 will change, it could go up to $4,500 or $5,000 depending on the price of Bitcoin when it enters the 4-year countdown. It's not just that people are often willing to top up to buy coins in a game, everything can be included in the calculation.
Even though I have children, I still play e-football. It's a form of enjoyment and needs to be balanced. DCA for investment always continues. Now, people who are willing to buy coins to play games�that's also part of how they enjoy themselves, and behind that, they might still be conducting investments.

Yes, I also think that it will give us temporary pleasure, but if we forget about this temporary pleasure and think that the future can be beautiful, then maybe we can all think about investing, at any age. I have seen many people who start businesses from their student life, and there is a class of people who are lazy and think that their working age is ahead, basically those who work hard from their student life can reach the highest peak of success.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 10:52:51 AM

Quote from: UpTober on Today at 06:21:09 AM

That's why I said this in the headline, I am smarter than them because I don't spend money on games, but my thinking is that if I stop spending $20 a week on games and keep buying Bitcoin with $20 a week, then after four years my total capital will be over $4,000, and it will not be limited to capital alone because there will definitely be positive changes in the market in this long period of time. That's why I said in the middle of my post that they will regret it in the future and if I can continue investing consistently as planned, then I will smile with success.

Ofc $20 per week in a videogame is ridiculously high amount of money
Dont waste your money like that. But you can buy one player from time to time.

Also remember that $ 20 per week in bitcoin won't change your life. You need to invest more than that.

Remember that bitcoin wont skyrocket like 10 years ago. Bitcoin isn't as risky as before, so the prize won't be so high anymore.

Maybe buying Bitcoin for $20 every weekend won't change your life much, but considering that my money is being saved through Bitcoin, but the money is not being saved by those who are spending this money on games, I think I'm moving in the right direction. Yes, the investment amount may be less now, but I plan to try to invest more in the future, I have such plans.

Quote from: dkbit98 on January 03, 2026, 07:59:41 PM

Using sats units is fine but it can be confusing to many people, and you can't send 1 sat to other wallet on bitcoin main chain.
mBTC is another popular unit that is used more in crypto casinos, but I think this would work better for most people.
People should first do basic education about bitcoin and learn how bitcoin unites work, and this website could help for converting units:
https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter

Since the beginning, for those crypto users, we understood 1 satoshi already. And if you want to get acquainted with how sats is working in crypto transactions, then, you really need to understand the basics first of this digital currency. Because that's common reference for most crypto users. As mentioned, it is like the metric system of btc currency. Now, it is up to you how you will look at it and make a meaning of what you are holding in terms of sats, mBTC or bits.

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Quote from: bitmover on January 03, 2026, 12:55:01 PM

And there is a limited number of times you can participate in such battles competitions.

When I realized how it works, I couldn't participate anymore. I think there is a limitation of 3 times, then you cannot join anymore.... And the competition is very difficult, as people are really sharp (I think probably some alt accounts are participating)

Newbies for whom this battle was created are unlikely to reach the top of the leaderboard in just 3 attempts. So those who reach the top of the leaderboard on their first attempts and with a large margin are likely to have multiple accounts. In fact, it's most likely due to such users that Betfury implemented an additional requirement: prizes can only be claimed and withdrawn after reaching rank 2.

Can't blame you to think that way since its really hard to think about on how those guys manage to get a lot of points and be on the top.

That's why same as you I also think the same knowing that each players have 3 attempts only to participate on that competition. But I didn't bother much to participate on that competition since I think its useless to chase especially if you see people at the top gather already huge points.

Quote from: mitchr4 on January 03, 2026, 12:43:04 PM

I think this suggestion might not fully solve the issue, because these two features work differently even though they seem similar.

Remember Me keeps you logged in. So every time you open the website, you're already in your account without logging in again. This can last for days or weeks.

Save Login Info (browser feature) only saves your username and password. So when you open the website, the login form is already filled, but you still have to click the Login button every time. Keep in mind that if you use save login info in your browser, anyone who uses your computer/phone can see your password in the browser settings. So it's a bit risky.

The site have logout feature that will logout the account if no activity. I think this is ok and can prevent something harm to your account.

Yes, Remember Me feature keep you logged in without log out automatically. But if the site still activating this feature, the account will logout automatically especially if you leave the site or don't do anything.

Maybe they can modify the setting so when users click Remember Me, the account will not logout automatically.

Quote from: virasog on January 03, 2026, 12:51:20 PM

Well, when we tick the �remember me� checkbox, after entering our username/email and password, the site saves a special cookie or token on your computer so that next time it doesn't ask you for the credentials when you try to access the site but the problem is that token isn't forever and has an expiry stamp associated with it.

In case you do not access the site for long, the token / cookie expires and you have to login again. This is a security feature and I think it is a good one too. Also clearing the browsing cookies will also delete the "remember me" info and you have to login again.

Actually, that is preventions for safety. But some users feels that is annoy which makes them keep re-login if they don't use the site. We can wait clarification from the teams and what will they said later.

The site concern that the security is an important matter so they just want to protect their users from the things that can harm them.

Quote from: bitmover on January 03, 2026, 12:58:51 PM

I think that forcing users to login every time makes people login less often. It is a good idea to make a persistent login system which actually works well and won't logout automatically for at least 1 month.

This kind of system isn't easily abused. Google accounts for example never logout, even my bitcointalk account never logout automatically. I see no reason to keep logging out automatically after just a few hours or few days...

That can works well if users can ensuring that their devices safe from something that may harm the account. If only them using the devices, that will not be a problem. But if they use the devices together with others, that is not good so they don't have to activate this feature.

Quote from: bitmover on January 03, 2026, 12:55:01 PM

And there is a limited number of times you can participate in such battles competitions.

When I realized how it works, I couldn't participate anymore. I think there is a limitation of 3 times, then you cannot join anymore.... And the competition is very difficult, as people are really sharp (I think probably some alt accounts are participating)

Newbies for whom this battle was created are unlikely to reach the top of the leaderboard in just 3 attempts. So those who reach the top of the leaderboard on their first attempts and with a large margin are likely to have multiple accounts. In fact, it's most likely due to such users that Betfury implemented an additional requirement: prizes can only be claimed and withdrawn after reaching rank 2.