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1. Post 66541570 (unedited backup) (by Wapfika) (scraped on Tue Mar 24 12:42:14 CET 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:
I don’t collect faucet on Bitz since I’m just opening my account rarely to play on my free time. How many days you spend to collect that huge stack of Sats?
I’m wondering if Bitz has a level up mechanics that increase faucet claim depending on the VIP level?
Bitz faucet seems a good feature since it doesn’t have wager requirements. Goodluck in the contest.
2. Post 66541173 (unedited backup) (by dwyane36) (scraped on Tue Mar 24 10:10:31 CET 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:
Lets see if I have some chance
According to the posts, only two users have more sats than you. One posted a screenshot showing 9,750 sats, and the other 15,400 sats. It appears that you're in third place, and I think you have a good chance of winning a small prize in this event. Of course, this is assuming there are several prize-winning spots, not just one.
3. Post 66540686 (unedited backup) (by jcojci) (scraped on Tue Mar 24 04:59:07 CET 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:
Even if you are not the winner, you can still collecting free Sats
Good idea
The SATs are there to be collected. Collect until you are able to stake with it maybe you can turn them to real cash.
Have your time to collected free SATS day by day from the Bitcoin faucet. Don't forget that tomorrow you can follow the Bitcoin Calendar to pick one of the three option to receive free rewards. Don't miss it.
Whatttt?? Woww, you have collect many Sats. Hope you are one of the winners.
4. Post 66539469 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Mon Mar 23 19:28:38 CET 2026) in Hacker cria processo para invadir carteiras de hardware:
Estao vulneráveis a um hacker nível global pegar elas e extrair as informações. Contra isso estou mais seguro do que o ataque da chave de fenda.
Sem dúvida. Além de ser preciso acesso ao equipamento, a probabilidade de encontrar um hackers desse nível, é difícil.
Para não falar do tempo que isso demora. O hacker tinha de ter a certeza que o conteúdo compensava.
5. Post 66539437 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Mon Mar 23 19:23:43 CET 2026) in Recuperar acesso a moedas com o BIP39 (Ian Coleman):
O que aconteceu ai é que simplesmente a coinomi usa um derivation path diferente do padrão da metamask.
Mas ele poderia ter mudado o derivation path na própria metamask, talvez so desse mais trabalho.
Acredito que sim. Mas não encontrei essa informação, na pesquisa que fiz.
Por isso acredito que seja mais trabalhoso (ou pesquisei mal, também pode ter sido o caso).
E ainda bem que você conseguiu recuperar suas moedas, você já tem experiência com cripto, se fosse um novato com certeza não conseguiria resolver como você conseguiu
Sim. Eu resolvi a questão, em uns 20 minutos.
Acredito que outros teriam tido mais dificuldade.
Fiz este tópico, com a ideia de poder vir ajudar alguém no futuro.
6. Post 66539245 (unedited backup) (by Zenland) (scraped on Mon Mar 23 18:26:49 CET 2026) in [ESCROW] Zenland V2: DAO-Governed Smart Contract Escrow | 1% Fee, $50 Max:
Also, I think I've seen the bug you're describing - where you add a signer and it still asks for 2 more instead of recognizing that only 2 total are needed. I'll try to reproduce and catch it. Thanks for flagging that!
Yeah that really hhappened.
when I added the first wallet (and the only i added) ther was a message saying that it was required to add 2 more. The text was clearly saying 3 were required in total.
However, i clicked somewhere else and the message disappeared and I was able to complete the process with just 1 wallet .
I will take a look at the contract in a few hours. Thank you!
Thanks @bitmover! We identified the bug and have already deployed a fix. It shouldn't appear again, though since you’ve already completed the onboarding process, you’re all set anyway.
7. Post 66539224 (unedited backup) (by Grease5000) (scraped on Mon Mar 23 18:22:55 CET 2026) in Buy every dip, and HODL!:
The escalating situation in Iran suggests that BOTH Bitcoin investors who like to Buy the DIP and DCA will get more opportunities to purchase more coins with a discount.
How low is the discount? No one could predict such things, BUT place your bids and when filled, THEN
HODL. Don't let the billionaires buy all of the coins with a discount. Save some of your monthly salary and buy some for yourselves too.
If guys are ongoingly buying, then they are likely going to end up buying any further dip if it happens.
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I agree that the aim of going into bitcoin should be to secure our future and have a hedge over inflation and all that but how are you securing your future?….
There is no need to think about profits if you are building your bitcoin holdings.
If you look at it very clearly it’s through the profits that you make from your investments, if there’s no profits in the investment then your plans have failed.
There is no guarantee of profits in the future and there is no guarantee that your investment won't fail, yet guys invest into bitcoin for reasons other than number go up. Some guys learn about hedging, insurance and other reasons to allocate into bitcoin as compared with other places that they might put their time, energy and value.
If you’re experiencing a loss of investment it’s no longer a secured future until there’s a profit.
You sound lost. Your investment can be secured in a variety of ways, including how you chose to hold them.. .and also giving you options when you privately hold them as compared with if you don't privately hold your bitcoin.
So those who say they go into bitcoin for the profits are also right in their stands.
If they are only focused on profits, then they are likely to make mistakes since they are like little babies who only can think in terms of concrete matters, and they have no ability to think beyond what they see in front of them. Have you ever heard of abstract thinking?
Going into bitcoin for profit doesn’t necessarily mean I’ll be agitated and emotional about it.
Yes.. it is a starting point for babies. They start out thinking about number go up technology, and they realize that there is more to bitcoin beyond which direction the price may or may not go and how they deal with such price movements.
Guys who spend 1-2 cycles or more building up their holdings, they might not be looking too closely at the extent to which their bitcoin holdings is in profits or not, even though there surely isn't anything wrong with keeping track, as long as they don't get distracted by such superficialities.
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Most individuals don't begin investing with fully mapped out plan they see things out as they go and their objectives evolve with experience, income and market reality the example of going from $30k to aiming for $80 through Bitcoin is very a good one more as a reference point than a fixed target it gives people something tangible to think about even if they later adjust it up or down at the end of the day the real value is in having some direction even if it is perfect instead of relying on a perfect plan that may never came through.
Sure start out with a ballpark idea of where you want to go, yet your plans about how to get there are likely more concrete and filled with action, such as buying bitcoin every week... and then so every year or so, there will be abilities to measure progress and to make adjustments from time to time in order to improve the progress (or to reassess the progress).
I understand that it can take a while to learn, and surely there are a lot of folks who really think in a kind of gambling way, which might be that so many folks do not even know how to invest.. and so if we have even a lot of newbies into bitcoin who have never invested, then they might have some difficulties figuring out how to get into the right kind of a mindset.
Whether on this forum or even in real life, I try to suggest that guys ease into building getting started, so then once they get started buying every week or whatever, then maybe at some point they can ramp up their level of investing, and it can even take a bit of time to get some accounts set up or to figure out from where they might source their coins in the beginning... yet of course, on the forum, we cannot necessarily know the options that might be available to people in differing geographical locations - even though in recent times, I have not really seen too many members complaining about their coin sourcing options .. even though surely it can be a bit of a factor to figure out in some locations.
I am also quite accepting of the time it requires to learn things, but we live in a bit strange times or the information connectedness has made us more aware of many people who are this way. Not so long ago it was considered wise to listen to older people with experience or simply those that have a lot of experience in a certain field. Now it seems that many people refuse to do that and have a right now I know what I am doing style that is similar to gambling or degenerate. Like I gave one example, I have others through my life where I warned people of not investing in some scams like 1% guaranteed return daily. Very few have actually heeded the warnings on time despite having no experience in that field. I did give them proper educational warning and not something insulting like just saying don't be stupid, don't do that. Sometimes I find it a bit sad that one help many people this way at all these days
but in the end everyone is responsible for their own decisions. It is on us to try to help others and educate them, and it is on them if they don't want to listen.
Sure, social interactions are changing based on changes in the way that information is available, and even break down of the family has been happening for a long time... so there has always been changes going on, and surely there is a lot of importance in critical thinking and discernment of information, and sometimes young people might not realize some of their mistakes, but they also might have difficulties relating to some of their elders too...
I recall that I went through various phases of not wanting to listen to anyone else, which resulted in a lot of mistakes, but then some mistakes are more problematic than others in terms of screwing up future prospects, whether referring to finances or other life choices.
You are wrong when you are suggesting such high focus upon "profits".. so in that regard you seem to be unable to discuss the matter properly because you cannot even remove yourself from a trader mentality... so then you proclaim that everyone has the same mentality about profits, when they don't.
It is quite unusual for the user to suggest that speculation is necessarily where the history of Bitcoin and data about it shows is that those that don't speculate and just invest for the long term have significantly outperformed everyone.
We cannot really guarantee that the long term ongoing accumulation is going to continue to be profitable, and we might even assert that the future bitcoin price slope might be less steep than it has been historically, yet at the same time, there is no real data to support any assertion that bitcoin's investment thesis is weakening with the passage of time, so in that sense, even a brand new bitcoiner should consider figuring out ways to get started investing into bitcoin and to focus on trying to figure out ways to ongoingly accumulate bitcoin within an amount that they consider to be workable for their own cashflows, and surely there are some guys who have very little back up funds, and they likely need to make sure that they have back up funds if they are going to be investing into bitcoin for long periods forward, since there surely can be challenges to have a lot of confidence about not being tempted to tap into our bitcoin investment if we are not putting systems/practices into place that gives us some cushion in the event that our income might go down and/or our expenses might go up and we want to be able to continue to build our bitcoin for 4-10 years or longer, even if there might be some periods in which we might not be in a position to continue to add to our bitcoin stash that we are hopefully ongoingly building until it gets to a reasonable decently sized amount.
We can't guarantee anything, that is correct however still it would be quite unusual to suggest something that has never been proven to be the superior strategy. One could say a change is coming sure, but one can't have too much certainty and give it off as if it is going to be a sure thing. We know that historically DCA and holding has outperformed traders and speculators on average, actually this happens also in other markets. I recall some studies that were done that found this out, and other studies have replicated those findings. Here is an article about it
https://tradeciety.com/24-statistics-why-most-traders-lose-money. Especially also when you consider people who do not have experience trading and speculating in any market at all, they should not really receive that advice in my view.
This is an investment thread, so there is no reason to talk about or to promote trading, and sure there are some guys that might get distracted by the title of the thread, even though a lot of guys who are active in this thread consider DCA to be a likely preferable strategy since they are able to adjust their ongoing investment amount and their level of aggressiveness based on their own cashflow situation, and DCA is really good for doing that on an ongoing, persistent, consistent and regular basis.
Trading in Bitcoin but even worse in crypto which is what many normal people who call themselves traders in this space also do is very risky, for shitcoins it is like playing in a casino. It works well until that one moment where everything is lost and one can never recover to that point unless you put in a lot more money to buy back everything that you have built.
There are some folks who have somewhat degenerate personalities, yet if they could figure out how to at least limit the amount of their exposure to either trading and/or to shitcoins (perhaps to less than 10% of the size of their bitcoin holdings, then they might have some chance of learning their way out of such bad habits, yet so many times, there can be difficulties for guys to limit their own bad habits.. since they might have inclinations to go beyond their self-imposed limits, and then it just becomes an ever growing devolution.. that they might not be able to control.. so yeah, it can be difficult for guys who already have such gambling inclinations.
Yeah, I mean I have even had people who held fair portions of Bitcoin and some shitcoin. But they didn't have any defined limits. So once their shitcoin performed well most likely to luck they got a taste of what seemed easy money and transferred most of the stack into it hoping to make even more money. It didn't end so either. Now that I am writing this, it seems that almost any combination of anything has been tried especially degenerate things.
There is likely nothing wrong with some experimenting so long as people can limit their experimentation, yet part of the problem is that gambling tends to have a devolving effect in which the gambling gets worse and worse and worse.. so then yeah, they end up fucking up by going beyond the limits that they might have initially set for themselves. There is only so much that can be done to save folks from their own dangerous and/or self-destructive inclinations that involve getting greedy and not making sure to impose their own strict (and self-imposed) limitations.
Perhaps that also shows that many people have an issue with patience? Monthly or weekly DCA especially one that is automated with some platform or tools can be seen as quite boring compared to the shitcoin or futures roller coaster. Perhaps with so much addiction to gratification these days, one of the best strategies is simply too boring for many? What do you think about this possibility?
I understand that people have defects and even inclinations towards short attention spans, including expecting short term results, yet patience can be learned through practice... which likely also includes attempting to come at bitcoin in a modest way and to build up incrementally... but yeah, normies are going to be ongoingly tempted by distractions.. and it is not easy to stay focused.. whether it is $100 per week, $10 per week or some other reasonable amount that also allows them to have money to put into their back up funds and also to have money for any discretionary consumption that they might want to do within the process, too.
I believe that there are actually very few reasons to stop accumulating. Sure we can think of specifics like reaching your own goal, the old established goal but why stop there?
Of course, each person has to consider his own situation and the extent to which it might be practical to change his goals (to make them higher) once he had already reached them. Surely I understand that sometimes guys might set their goals too low, so there can be some reasonable basis for making the goals higher after they had been reached... and so surely the guy has to account for his own factors.. and then what it might mean to him to continue to want to accumulate more bitcoin when he may well have enough and/or even more than enough... and so maybe it is difficult to talk about these kinds of ideas in the abstract, since if we are working with a set of particulars, we may well recognize and appreciate how at some point enough, should be enough, and getting to the status of enough could open doors to have the freedom to quit ones job and to be able to live off of his bitcoin for the rest of his life.
Of course, your registration date is less than a year ago, so maybe we need to use a guy with a longer history, and sure we can change around the particulars, yet I am trying to show at what point a guy might have had reached enough or more than enough.
So, let me use an example of a guy who perhaps came to bitcoin in his mid 30s towards the beginning of 2016, and at that time, he had been perhaps attended some college, and he had been working for the past 10 or more years, and maybe he had some success and/or not, yet his income was around $30k per year, and his then investment portfolio was around $45k.. .. so he was not in a bad place, but he still wanted to be able to retire in his early to mid-50s, so maybe he first heard about bitcoin around that early 2016 time, so he considered that maybe he could take around $10k from his already existing investment portfolio and put that into bitcoin, and otherwise he would continue to invest in bitcoin at a pace of around $100 per week (which was around 17.33% of his income).
He started out by investing the $11k in bitcoin between January and March 2026 - so he accumulated 27.25 BTC
Then thereafter starting from April 1, 2016 until now, he invested $100 per week into bitcoin, which added up to another $52k invested and 12.1 BTC.
So up until now he had invested right around $63k into bitcoin and he has 49.35 bitcoin. I have a hard time concluding that the guy does not have enough or more than enough bitcoin, since his income was $30k per year, and perhaps his goal would have had been to have an income of around $80k per year and not having to work, yet right now he could get a sustainable income of
$80k per year for right around 15.2 BTC per yearYet, right now his 49.35 BTC will support an income that is about 3x his goal and right around 8x the $30k per year income that he had been making. Sure, the guy is in his mid to late 40s because he is 10 years older, yet he is also ahead of schedule in terms of options.
You can quibble with the example, yet my main point is that there can be enough or more than enough, whether the person might be wanting to merely replace his current standard of living or perhaps to increase his standard of living by some reasonable multiple higher. If the guy says that he is not going to stop untiil he is a billionarie, or that he is making over a million per year from his bitcoin, then he has a right to do those things even though they might not be necessary, especially some folks do not necessarily want to change their llfestyle in magnitude kinds of ways.
It is hard to talk about this in an abstract way, you are right on that because it depends on so many things and the details of each person. What I could maybe say in general there that applies is that whatever goals have been set and even more if they are far into the future, the strategy and goals will need revisiting and adapting. They may not necessarily be big changes, but like we gave the example of someone who is now earning considerably more than when they set the goals then they would have to adapt it upwards in this case.
Of course, at any point in time in the life of a bitcoin investment, the short term goals are going to be more concrete, which would be making sure to be able to pay the monthly bills and to monitor cash short falls that might be coming up in the next 3-6 months.., and personally, I have found it to be quite useful to project forward my cashflows for 1 months or more, and surely the more complicated the income/expenses, then the more important to include the various details and the more need for cash cushions.. yet at the same a projection of cashflow is going to be specific and accurate when it is 1- 3 months out, yet when it is 18 months out it might merely have more rough estimates... so as the time is passing then more months are added onto the projections and as the months pass, then months that were further out end up advancing to places in which they are more important to be accurate and precise, since if I had projected out that I had $2k coming in, but it only ended up being $500, then I am kind of fucked in the way that I projected out too generously, so it is better to underestimate the income and over estimate the expenses and to see that it still works ... and we get better at making such projections with practice.
The far out future, such as 5 years or 12 years or 20 years or further, there might be projection that show base case scenarios, worst case scenarios and best case scenarios.. and there might even be some other scenarios that are projected out and they surely are more ballpark ideas rather than precise the further out the projections.
For the example given, it is a good one and I'm actually also surprised that in such a short time span so much Bitcoin would have been accumulated. That was a good time to buy Bitcoin! That said, I didn't mean to say that there is no reason for anyone to stop at all in any case. It was more my personal view. I want more Bitcoin, but I am into Bitcoin I am not here just for the concept of investment. I do not plan to retire early like that guy, I like the work that I am doing it is quite fulfilling. So what would I do with all that spare cash?
Having extra cash is a good problem to have... and so each of us can decide how much of our extra cash we are putting into 1) investing, 2) savings (back up funds) and/or 3) discretionary consumption
If you have too much extra cash, then that is not a bad problem to have.. but yeah, if you don't spend it or invest it, then it is going to lose value.. so it gets to be a bit of a problem if you cannot figure out what to do with such extra cash, even though I doubt that very many folks consider having extra cash as if it were really a bad problem to have.
I do not like to waste it on overpriced items that are worth it, and neither is over-consumption of anything good including traveling. It is quite possible to reach a state that one would simply have money losing value in fiat, so what else one would do if they were like me than to accumulate more of other things even if old goals were met?
There are people who are holding onto too much cash, and surely that cash is likely losing value. Many guys here would put extra cash into bitcoin.. I surely cannot solve that problem for you if you canont conclude that bitcoin is a good place to put your extra cash.
So for example, if you have too much cash and you also have too much bitcoin, then you have to figure out some other place to put it. I am not going to make any suggestions, since I am having difficulties believing that you don't know where to put your extra cash - especially since bitcoin seems to be the obvious place to put any extra money, which causes me to speculate that you might not understand bitcoin very well if you cannot recognize and appreciate it as being the place to put any extra money that you might have.
Geopolitical tension create volatility, and volatility creates opportunities. But no one can predict how low Bitcoin will go and waiting for the perfect time mean missing it.
That is why smart investors use DCA to buy bitcoin they buy with a plan and accumulate and hold for the long term. Billionaires don't just win because of money the win because they are patience and confidence and you can do the same by buying using DCA. By buying small amount regularly using discretionary income.
In the long term it not about catching up but staying in the game and stacking up
8. Post 66538205 (unedited backup) (by SuperBitMan) (scraped on Mon Mar 23 13:39:37 CET 2026) in This Thread Should Be Pinned In Beginners & Help Board.:
Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - email to get whitelisted for free.
The thread was created by LoyceV and the thread talked about removing the Proxyban and the reason why the Ban is on some new account that is being created, so a thread like this should be pinned in the Beginners & Help Board so we won’t constantly be seeing thread being created by newbies to ask about the Proxyban.
Within this month I have seen 2 or 3 thread created just for this Proxyban issue, this matter is a very serious issue for newbies and the thread that has answers to all that, should be pinned in Beginners & Help board, it will help reduce thread created in meta board to ask about the Ban.
This is more forum related . Why not in meta?
Beginners should be more a bitcoin board for Beginners
Sometimes i think there is so much off-topic that we may even forget this is a bitcoin forum
The board is writing beginners and Help and if you are new on the forum and you are going through the forum to get a solution for something that happened while creating an account, believe me you will likely visit the beginners and Help because you believe as the name says you will find help over there, so thread like the one we are talking about should be in beginners and Help board because that’s where newbies with visit first and not the meta board.
9. Post 66537211 (unedited backup) (by Crytohillss) (scraped on Mon Mar 23 07:01:55 CET 2026) in JJG’s Outline of Bitcoin Investment Ideas:
Of course many bitcoiners assess the 200-WMA as a bottom price indicator in bitcoin (which is part of the benefit in using it as a bottom indicator), and historically bitcoin has not spent too much time below the 200-WMA - even though it had spiked below the 200 WMA in 2014/2015, in 2018 and 2020.. and also between June 2022 and October 2023, bitcoin spent quite a bit of that time below the 200-WMA and even got as low as 35% below the 200-WMA in November 2022.
In my view, it might be a mistake to rely solely on the 200 WMA as a bottom indicator its better to combine it with another indicator to see if it's making sense.
Frequently I talk about the 200-WMA in terms of how it relates to BTC's spot price, to the extent that you want more than one indicator.
I have a sustainable withdrawal tool that plays with the relationship of the 200-WMA to the spot price.
Surely I am not investing into bitcoin and/or talking about investing into bitcoin based on technical analysis, and surely I would imagine that guys who are investing into bitcoin for 4-10 years or longer, they are also figuring out why they are investing into bitcoin and perhaps building their confidence in bitcoin based on various fundamental analysis of bitcoin being sound money and its network effects (
as outlined by Trace Mayer) rather than trying to trade it.
In other words, we are talking about investing and not trading, and perhaps figuring out how we are dealing with bitcoin in longer terms rather than shorter terms .. so then if we get through our accumulation phase, and then go through our maintenance phase, then by the time we arrive at our sustainable withdrawal phase, then we likely have learned about bitcoin beyond merely it's number go up technology.
I’m not a professional trader, but I try to understand things at a basic level to see how the world works.
Yeah, but fuck trading. We are not talking about that in this thread, even if you are reading discussion of the 200WMA in term of an indicator...
By studying market bottoms and taking advice from others, I have noticed that they combine the 200 WMA chart with the RSI30 indicator; in other words, if the RSI30 is very high and tends to converge towards the 200 WMA,it means we are approaching a bottom and that bitcoin is oversold.
If a guy is emphasizing investing rather than trading, then how is the RSI30 going to help him especially since he may well have to spend a cycle or two focused on accumulating bitcoin before he might get to a status of accumulating enough or more than enough?
I surely don't recommend trying to time the market for newbie who are accumulating bitcoin.. .. so from my point of view, if they are in their accumulation stage, then they need to focus on ongoing buying.
You have ONLY been registered here since April 2023. I have a hard time believing that you would have had accumulated enough bitcoin, yet, so you are likely trading rather than investing and we are not talking about trading in this thread, except to denigrate it from time to time, perhaps?
For example, I read a post by a very skilled trader here in our local section who in early February highlighted this type of convergence with support towards the 2021 ATH levels, and I must say there were many interesting things to be seen.
Were you in bitcoin in 2021? and how do you relate that supposed convergence as a way to invest in bitcoin, since I tend to recommend accumulating bitcoin DCAing in a persistent way, even though surely there could be times that DCA might be supplemented by lump sum buying and buying on the dip.. but from my perspective, those kinds of BTC accumulation strategies can easily devolve into either trading or putting guys into a wrong (waiting) kind of an approach to accumulation and contribute to more whimpy approaches to bitcoin accumulation, at least from my perspective.
I don't really like the idea of accumulating bitcoin by waiting for dips that might not happen.
But this applies to many other indicators: viewed in isolation, they take on a certain meaning, but by broadening one’s perspective and combining them with other indicators, one can gain a much broader view. The real skill is understanding with which indicators to combine them and when, and this is what distinguishes a good trader from an average one.
Fuck trading or attempting to trade when you may well be trying to accumulate bitcoin. I am not sure what your goal is. Are you trying to accumulate bitcoin or what? It could be that you don't even know the difference between trading and investing. I know many guys think that trading is the same as investing, and it is not, at least from my perspective and this thread is about my perspective on investing.. Did you even see the title of this thread?
If you are even trying to stay on topic in this thread, you might need to reread my earlier post in light of my own investing ideas rather than trading ideas that don't seem to at least account for my investment ideas.. maybe that could help you to at least be close to staying on the topic of this thread. Perhaps?
Imo, before you think of investing in Bitcoin you have to first of all access your overall financial health, check your depts, your emergency savings, your regular expenses and your financial obligations.
if you have a hige dept and no emergency fund investing in Bitcoin would be a little bit difficult for you. However, waiting to get things fixed is not also advisable, because it would delay your investment journey. Getting started is very important, if you can be able to be mapping out your discretionary income every week or every month you can get started with Bitcoin, while you figure out how you can get things fixed.
Just balance all of those things but I agree that someone who invests in Bitcoin needs also to have some good standing with those things. Because if someone who invests in Bitcoin and they're also in a huge debt. What will happen? they're likely to sell the Bitcoins they're holding to pay for that debt. And that's why it's important that you balance things and you pay on time those debts and have it until you are debt free so your focus is on the investment that you have. Also with emergency fund, the same scenario can be made if you have not prepared for it.
I tend to get worried when guys gravitate towards believing that they need to change their bitcoin accumulation aggressiveness based on changes in the bitcoin price rather than being based on strength of their own financial management situation.. so yeah, if they figure out that they are in a strong financial situation based on recent developments (such as receiving some extra pay or being relieved of some expenses) or that they discovered some extra funds that they have available for bitcoin investing, then sure they might be in a position to increase their investment amount based on the strength of their finances rather than making major changes based on perceptions of being in a dip.
On the other hand, many guys might be inclined to assess that bitcoin prices are currently in a low area that is worthy of increasing the investment amount.. but yeah, if a guy considers himself to still be in fairly early stages of bitcoin accumulation, then it may well not be serving him well to be moving around his finances very much in order to greatly lump sum - especially in circumstances that his finances had not really changed very much and he was merely getting excited about our current dip status.
We should try to avoid (or at least minimize) putting ourselves in positions of getting emotional about our bitcoin, even though surely I understand that from time to time, guys may well feel likely tweaking their level of aggressiveness based on the price, and they surely have rights to do that, even though it might not be a very disciplined approach to bitcoin investment, especially since many of us (who are in bitcoin with an investment mindset) likely realize that it could take 10 years or more to really build up our bitcoin holdings to a meaningful amount.
The fast your time horizon the Less it makes to obsess over charts and short term moves at this point it really about conviction knowing why Bitcoin might hold value over long term not just hoping the price that goes up so many people skip that and adjust react emotionally to the market if people have actually thoughts through accumulation maintenance and eventually withdrawal people are already operating with different levels than typical purchase once one spend enough time in it people realise it's not just about the price action it's about the system whether people believe it can persist long term that orientation in mindset is what separates investment from just sepculating.
10. Post 66537152 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Mon Mar 23 06:03:25 CET 2026) in Buy every dip, and HODL!:
The escalating situation in Iran suggests that BOTH Bitcoin investors who like to Buy the DIP and DCA will get more opportunities to purchase more coins with a discount.
How low is the discount? No one could predict such things, BUT place your bids and when filled, THEN
HODL. Don't let the billionaires buy all of the coins with a discount. Save some of your monthly salary and buy some for yourselves too.
If guys are ongoingly buying, then they are likely going to end up buying any further dip if it happens.
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I agree that the aim of going into bitcoin should be to secure our future and have a hedge over inflation and all that but how are you securing your future?….
There is no need to think about profits if you are building your bitcoin holdings.
If you look at it very clearly it’s through the profits that you make from your investments, if there’s no profits in the investment then your plans have failed.
There is no guarantee of profits in the future and there is no guarantee that your investment won't fail, yet guys invest into bitcoin for reasons other than number go up. Some guys learn about hedging, insurance and other reasons to allocate into bitcoin as compared with other places that they might put their time, energy and value.
If you’re experiencing a loss of investment it’s no longer a secured future until there’s a profit.
You sound lost. Your investment can be secured in a variety of ways, including how you chose to hold them.. .and also giving you options when you privately hold them as compared with if you don't privately hold your bitcoin.
So those who say they go into bitcoin for the profits are also right in their stands.
If they are only focused on profits, then they are likely to make mistakes since they are like little babies who only can think in terms of concrete matters, and they have no ability to think beyond what they see in front of them. Have you ever heard of abstract thinking?
Going into bitcoin for profit doesn’t necessarily mean I’ll be agitated and emotional about it.
Yes.. it is a starting point for babies. They start out thinking about number go up technology, and they realize that there is more to bitcoin beyond which direction the price may or may not go and how they deal with such price movements.
Guys who spend 1-2 cycles or more building up their holdings, they might not be looking too closely at the extent to which their bitcoin holdings is in profits or not, even though there surely isn't anything wrong with keeping track, as long as they don't get distracted by such superficialities.
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Most individuals don't begin investing with fully mapped out plan they see things out as they go and their objectives evolve with experience, income and market reality the example of going from $30k to aiming for $80 through Bitcoin is very a good one more as a reference point than a fixed target it gives people something tangible to think about even if they later adjust it up or down at the end of the day the real value is in having some direction even if it is perfect instead of relying on a perfect plan that may never came through.
Sure start out with a ballpark idea of where you want to go, yet your plans about how to get there are likely more concrete and filled with action, such as buying bitcoin every week... and then so every year or so, there will be abilities to measure progress and to make adjustments from time to time in order to improve the progress (or to reassess the progress).
I understand that it can take a while to learn, and surely there are a lot of folks who really think in a kind of gambling way, which might be that so many folks do not even know how to invest.. and so if we have even a lot of newbies into bitcoin who have never invested, then they might have some difficulties figuring out how to get into the right kind of a mindset.
Whether on this forum or even in real life, I try to suggest that guys ease into building getting started, so then once they get started buying every week or whatever, then maybe at some point they can ramp up their level of investing, and it can even take a bit of time to get some accounts set up or to figure out from where they might source their coins in the beginning... yet of course, on the forum, we cannot necessarily know the options that might be available to people in differing geographical locations - even though in recent times, I have not really seen too many members complaining about their coin sourcing options .. even though surely it can be a bit of a factor to figure out in some locations.
I am also quite accepting of the time it requires to learn things, but we live in a bit strange times or the information connectedness has made us more aware of many people who are this way. Not so long ago it was considered wise to listen to older people with experience or simply those that have a lot of experience in a certain field. Now it seems that many people refuse to do that and have a right now I know what I am doing style that is similar to gambling or degenerate. Like I gave one example, I have others through my life where I warned people of not investing in some scams like 1% guaranteed return daily. Very few have actually heeded the warnings on time despite having no experience in that field. I did give them proper educational warning and not something insulting like just saying don't be stupid, don't do that. Sometimes I find it a bit sad that one help many people this way at all these days
but in the end everyone is responsible for their own decisions. It is on us to try to help others and educate them, and it is on them if they don't want to listen.
Sure, social interactions are changing based on changes in the way that information is available, and even break down of the family has been happening for a long time... so there has always been changes going on, and surely there is a lot of importance in critical thinking and discernment of information, and sometimes young people might not realize some of their mistakes, but they also might have difficulties relating to some of their elders too...
I recall that I went through various phases of not wanting to listen to anyone else, which resulted in a lot of mistakes, but then some mistakes are more problematic than others in terms of screwing up future prospects, whether referring to finances or other life choices.
You are wrong when you are suggesting such high focus upon "profits".. so in that regard you seem to be unable to discuss the matter properly because you cannot even remove yourself from a trader mentality... so then you proclaim that everyone has the same mentality about profits, when they don't.
It is quite unusual for the user to suggest that speculation is necessarily where the history of Bitcoin and data about it shows is that those that don't speculate and just invest for the long term have significantly outperformed everyone.
We cannot really guarantee that the long term ongoing accumulation is going to continue to be profitable, and we might even assert that the future bitcoin price slope might be less steep than it has been historically, yet at the same time, there is no real data to support any assertion that bitcoin's investment thesis is weakening with the passage of time, so in that sense, even a brand new bitcoiner should consider figuring out ways to get started investing into bitcoin and to focus on trying to figure out ways to ongoingly accumulate bitcoin within an amount that they consider to be workable for their own cashflows, and surely there are some guys who have very little back up funds, and they likely need to make sure that they have back up funds if they are going to be investing into bitcoin for long periods forward, since there surely can be challenges to have a lot of confidence about not being tempted to tap into our bitcoin investment if we are not putting systems/practices into place that gives us some cushion in the event that our income might go down and/or our expenses might go up and we want to be able to continue to build our bitcoin for 4-10 years or longer, even if there might be some periods in which we might not be in a position to continue to add to our bitcoin stash that we are hopefully ongoingly building until it gets to a reasonable decently sized amount.
We can't guarantee anything, that is correct however still it would be quite unusual to suggest something that has never been proven to be the superior strategy. One could say a change is coming sure, but one can't have too much certainty and give it off as if it is going to be a sure thing. We know that historically DCA and holding has outperformed traders and speculators on average, actually this happens also in other markets. I recall some studies that were done that found this out, and other studies have replicated those findings. Here is an article about it
https://tradeciety.com/24-statistics-why-most-traders-lose-money. Especially also when you consider people who do not have experience trading and speculating in any market at all, they should not really receive that advice in my view.
This is an investment thread, so there is no reason to talk about or to promote trading, and sure there are some guys that might get distracted by the title of the thread, even though a lot of guys who are active in this thread consider DCA to be a likely preferable strategy since they are able to adjust their ongoing investment amount and their level of aggressiveness based on their own cashflow situation, and DCA is really good for doing that on an ongoing, persistent, consistent and regular basis.
Trading in Bitcoin but even worse in crypto which is what many normal people who call themselves traders in this space also do is very risky, for shitcoins it is like playing in a casino. It works well until that one moment where everything is lost and one can never recover to that point unless you put in a lot more money to buy back everything that you have built.
There are some folks who have somewhat degenerate personalities, yet if they could figure out how to at least limit the amount of their exposure to either trading and/or to shitcoins (perhaps to less than 10% of the size of their bitcoin holdings, then they might have some chance of learning their way out of such bad habits, yet so many times, there can be difficulties for guys to limit their own bad habits.. since they might have inclinations to go beyond their self-imposed limits, and then it just becomes an ever growing devolution.. that they might not be able to control.. so yeah, it can be difficult for guys who already have such gambling inclinations.
Yeah, I mean I have even had people who held fair portions of Bitcoin and some shitcoin. But they didn't have any defined limits. So once their shitcoin performed well most likely to luck they got a taste of what seemed easy money and transferred most of the stack into it hoping to make even more money. It didn't end so either. Now that I am writing this, it seems that almost any combination of anything has been tried especially degenerate things.
There is likely nothing wrong with some experimenting so long as people can limit their experimentation, yet part of the problem is that gambling tends to have a devolving effect in which the gambling gets worse and worse and worse.. so then yeah, they end up fucking up by going beyond the limits that they might have initially set for themselves. There is only so much that can be done to save folks from their own dangerous and/or self-destructive inclinations that involve getting greedy and not making sure to impose their own strict (and self-imposed) limitations.
Perhaps that also shows that many people have an issue with patience? Monthly or weekly DCA especially one that is automated with some platform or tools can be seen as quite boring compared to the shitcoin or futures roller coaster. Perhaps with so much addiction to gratification these days, one of the best strategies is simply too boring for many? What do you think about this possibility?
I understand that people have defects and even inclinations towards short attention spans, including expecting short term results, yet patience can be learned through practice... which likely also includes attempting to come at bitcoin in a modest way and to build up incrementally... but yeah, normies are going to be ongoingly tempted by distractions.. and it is not easy to stay focused.. whether it is $100 per week, $10 per week or some other reasonable amount that also allows them to have money to put into their back up funds and also to have money for any discretionary consumption that they might want to do within the process, too.
I believe that there are actually very few reasons to stop accumulating. Sure we can think of specifics like reaching your own goal, the old established goal but why stop there?
Of course, each person has to consider his own situation and the extent to which it might be practical to change his goals (to make them higher) once he had already reached them. Surely I understand that sometimes guys might set their goals too low, so there can be some reasonable basis for making the goals higher after they had been reached... and so surely the guy has to account for his own factors.. and then what it might mean to him to continue to want to accumulate more bitcoin when he may well have enough and/or even more than enough... and so maybe it is difficult to talk about these kinds of ideas in the abstract, since if we are working with a set of particulars, we may well recognize and appreciate how at some point enough, should be enough, and getting to the status of enough could open doors to have the freedom to quit ones job and to be able to live off of his bitcoin for the rest of his life.
Of course, your registration date is less than a year ago, so maybe we need to use a guy with a longer history, and sure we can change around the particulars, yet I am trying to show at what point a guy might have had reached enough or more than enough.
So, let me use an example of a guy who perhaps came to bitcoin in his mid 30s towards the beginning of 2016, and at that time, he had been perhaps attended some college, and he had been working for the past 10 or more years, and maybe he had some success and/or not, yet his income was around $30k per year, and his then investment portfolio was around $45k.. .. so he was not in a bad place, but he still wanted to be able to retire in his early to mid-50s, so maybe he first heard about bitcoin around that early 2016 time, so he considered that maybe he could take around $10k from his already existing investment portfolio and put that into bitcoin, and otherwise he would continue to invest in bitcoin at a pace of around $100 per week (which was around 17.33% of his income).
He started out by investing the $11k in bitcoin between January and March 2026 - so he accumulated 27.25 BTC
Then thereafter starting from April 1, 2016 until now, he invested $100 per week into bitcoin, which added up to another $52k invested and 12.1 BTC.
So up until now he had invested right around $63k into bitcoin and he has 49.35 bitcoin. I have a hard time concluding that the guy does not have enough or more than enough bitcoin, since his income was $30k per year, and perhaps his goal would have had been to have an income of around $80k per year and not having to work, yet right now he could get a sustainable income of
$80k per year for right around 15.2 BTC per yearYet, right now his 49.35 BTC will support an income that is about 3x his goal and right around 8x the $30k per year income that he had been making. Sure, the guy is in his mid to late 40s because he is 10 years older, yet he is also ahead of schedule in terms of options.
You can quibble with the example, yet my main point is that there can be enough or more than enough, whether the person might be wanting to merely replace his current standard of living or perhaps to increase his standard of living by some reasonable multiple higher. If the guy says that he is not going to stop untiil he is a billionarie, or that he is making over a million per year from his bitcoin, then he has a right to do those things even though they might not be necessary, especially some folks do not necessarily want to change their llfestyle in magnitude kinds of ways.
It is hard to talk about this in an abstract way, you are right on that because it depends on so many things and the details of each person. What I could maybe say in general there that applies is that whatever goals have been set and even more if they are far into the future, the strategy and goals will need revisiting and adapting. They may not necessarily be big changes, but like we gave the example of someone who is now earning considerably more than when they set the goals then they would have to adapt it upwards in this case.
Of course, at any point in time in the life of a bitcoin investment, the short term goals are going to be more concrete, which would be making sure to be able to pay the monthly bills and to monitor cash short falls that might be coming up in the next 3-6 months.., and personally, I have found it to be quite useful to project forward my cashflows for 1 months or more, and surely the more complicated the income/expenses, then the more important to include the various details and the more need for cash cushions.. yet at the same a projection of cashflow is going to be specific and accurate when it is 1- 3 months out, yet when it is 18 months out it might merely have more rough estimates... so as the time is passing then more months are added onto the projections and as the months pass, then months that were further out end up advancing to places in which they are more important to be accurate and precise, since if I had projected out that I had $2k coming in, but it only ended up being $500, then I am kind of fucked in the way that I projected out too generously, so it is better to underestimate the income and over estimate the expenses and to see that it still works ... and we get better at making such projections with practice.
The far out future, such as 5 years or 12 years or 20 years or further, there might be projection that show base case scenarios, worst case scenarios and best case scenarios.. and there might even be some other scenarios that are projected out and they surely are more ballpark ideas rather than precise the further out the projections.
For the example given, it is a good one and I'm actually also surprised that in such a short time span so much Bitcoin would have been accumulated. That was a good time to buy Bitcoin! That said, I didn't mean to say that there is no reason for anyone to stop at all in any case. It was more my personal view. I want more Bitcoin, but I am into Bitcoin I am not here just for the concept of investment. I do not plan to retire early like that guy, I like the work that I am doing it is quite fulfilling. So what would I do with all that spare cash?
Having extra cash is a good problem to have... and so each of us can decide how much of our extra cash we are putting into 1) investing, 2) savings (back up funds) and/or 3) discretionary consumption
If you have too much extra cash, then that is not a bad problem to have.. but yeah, if you don't spend it or invest it, then it is going to lose value.. so it gets to be a bit of a problem if you cannot figure out what to do with such extra cash, even though I doubt that very many folks consider having extra cash as if it were really a bad problem to have.
I do not like to waste it on overpriced items that are worth it, and neither is over-consumption of anything good including traveling. It is quite possible to reach a state that one would simply have money losing value in fiat, so what else one would do if they were like me than to accumulate more of other things even if old goals were met?
There are people who are holding onto too much cash, and surely that cash is likely losing value. Many guys here would put extra cash into bitcoin.. I surely cannot solve that problem for you if you canont conclude that bitcoin is a good place to put your extra cash.
So for example, if you have too much cash and you also have too much bitcoin, then you have to figure out some other place to put it. I am not going to make any suggestions, since I am having difficulties believing that you don't know where to put your extra cash.
11. Post 66537069 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Mon Mar 23 04:19:26 CET 2026) in JJG’s Outline of Bitcoin Investment Ideas:
Of course many bitcoiners assess the 200-WMA as a bottom price indicator in bitcoin (which is part of the benefit in using it as a bottom indicator), and historically bitcoin has not spent too much time below the 200-WMA - even though it had spiked below the 200 WMA in 2014/2015, in 2018 and 2020.. and also between June 2022 and October 2023, bitcoin spent quite a bit of that time below the 200-WMA and even got as low as 35% below the 200-WMA in November 2022.
In my view, it might be a mistake to rely solely on the 200 WMA as a bottom indicator its better to combine it with another indicator to see if it's making sense.
Frequently I talk about the 200-WMA in terms of how it relates to BTC's spot price, to the extent that you want more than one indicator.
I have a sustainable withdrawal tool that plays with the relationship of the 200-WMA to the spot price.
Surely I am not investing into bitcoin and/or talking about investing into bitcoin based on technical analysis, and surely I would imagine that guys who are investing into bitcoin for 4-10 years or longer, they are also figuring out why they are investing into bitcoin and perhaps building their confidence in bitcoin based on various fundamental analysis of bitcoin being sound money and its network effects (
as outlined by Trace Mayer) rather than trying to trade it.
In other words, we are talking about investing and not trading, and perhaps figuring out how we are dealing with bitcoin in longer terms rather than shorter terms .. so then if we get through our accumulation phase, and then go through our maintenance phase, then by the time we arrive at our sustainable withdrawal phase, then we likely have learned about bitcoin beyond merely it's number go up technology.
I’m not a professional trader, but I try to understand things at a basic level to see how the world works.
Yeah, but fuck trading. We are not talking about that in this thread, even if you are reading discussion of the 200WMA in term of an indicator...
By studying market bottoms and taking advice from others, I have noticed that they combine the 200 WMA chart with the RSI30 indicator; in other words, if the RSI30 is very high and tends to converge towards the 200 WMA,it means we are approaching a bottom and that bitcoin is oversold.
If a guy is emphasizing investing rather than trading, then how is the RSI30 going to help him especially since he may well have to spend a cycle or two focused on accumulating bitcoin before he might get to a status of accumulating enough or more than enough?
I surely don't recommend trying to time the market for newbie who are accumulating bitcoin.. .. so from my point of view, if they are in their accumulation stage, then they need to focus on ongoing buying.
You have ONLY been registered here since April 2023. I have a hard time believing that you would have had accumulated enough bitcoin, yet, so you are likely trading rather than investing and we are not talking about trading in this thread, except to denigrate it from time to time, perhaps?
For example, I read a post by a very skilled trader here in our local section who in early February highlighted this type of convergence with support towards the 2021 ATH levels, and I must say there were many interesting things to be seen.
Were you in bitcoin in 2021? and how do you relate that supposed convergence as a way to invest in bitcoin, since I tend to recommend accumulating bitcoin DCAing in a persistent way, even though surely there could be times that DCA might be supplemented by lump sum buying and buying on the dip.. but from my perspective, those kinds of BTC accumulation strategies can easily devolve into either trading or putting guys into a wrong (waiting) kind of an approach to accumulation and contribute to more whimpy approaches to bitcoin accumulation, at least from my perspective.
I don't really like the idea of accumulating bitcoin by waiting for dips that might not happen.
But this applies to many other indicators: viewed in isolation, they take on a certain meaning, but by broadening one’s perspective and combining them with other indicators, one can gain a much broader view. The real skill is understanding with which indicators to combine them and when, and this is what distinguishes a good trader from an average one.
Fuck trading or attempting to trade when you may well be trying to accumulate bitcoin. I am not sure what your goal is. Are you trying to accumulate bitcoin or what? It could be that you don't even know the difference between trading and investing. I know many guys think that trading is the same as investing, and it is not, at least from my perspective and this thread is about my perspective on investing.. Did you even see the title of this thread?
If you are even trying to stay on topic in this thread, you might need to reread my earlier post in light of my own investing ideas rather than trading ideas that don't seem to at least account for my investment ideas.. maybe that could help you to at least be close to staying on the topic of this thread. Perhaps?
Imo, before you think of investing in Bitcoin you have to first of all access your overall financial health, check your depts, your emergency savings, your regular expenses and your financial obligations.
if you have a hige dept and no emergency fund investing in Bitcoin would be a little bit difficult for you. However, waiting to get things fixed is not also advisable, because it would delay your investment journey. Getting started is very important, if you can be able to be mapping out your discretionary income every week or every month you can get started with Bitcoin, while you figure out how you can get things fixed.
Just balance all of those things but I agree that someone who invests in Bitcoin needs also to have some good standing with those things. Because if someone who invests in Bitcoin and they're also in a huge debt. What will happen? they're likely to sell the Bitcoins they're holding to pay for that debt. And that's why it's important that you balance things and you pay on time those debts and have it until you are debt free so your focus is on the investment that you have. Also with emergency fund, the same scenario can be made if you have not prepared for it.
I tend to get worried when guys gravitate towards believing that they need to change their bitcoin accumulation aggressiveness based on changes in the bitcoin price rather than being based on strength of their own financial management situation.. so yeah, if they figure out that they are in a strong financial situation based on recent developments (such as receiving some extra pay or being relieved of some expenses) or that they discovered some extra funds that they have available for bitcoin investing, then sure they might be in a position to increase their investment amount based on the strength of their finances rather than making major changes based on perceptions of being in a dip.
On the other hand, many guys might be inclined to assess that bitcoin prices are currently in a low area that is worthy of increasing the investment amount.. but yeah, if a guy considers himself to still be in fairly early stages of bitcoin accumulation, then it may well not be serving him well to be moving around his finances very much in order to greatly lump sum - especially in circumstances that his finances had not really changed very much and he was merely getting excited about our current dip status.
We should try to avoid (or at least minimize) putting ourselves in positions of getting emotional about our bitcoin, even though surely I understand that from time to time, guys may well feel likely tweaking their level of aggressiveness based on the price, and they surely have rights to do that, even though it might not be a very disciplined approach to bitcoin investment, especially since many of us (who are in bitcoin with an investment mindset) likely realize that it could take 10 years or more to really build up our bitcoin holdings to a meaningful amount.
12. Post 66535742 (unedited backup) (by Dogedegen) (scraped on Sun Mar 22 18:54:07 CET 2026) in Buy every dip, and HODL!:
I understand that it can take a while to learn, and surely there are a lot of folks who really think in a kind of gambling way, which might be that so many folks do not even know how to invest.. and so if we have even a lot of newbies into bitcoin who have never invested, then they might have some difficulties figuring out how to get into the right kind of a mindset.
Whether on this forum or even in real life, I try to suggest that guys ease into building getting started, so then once they get started buying every week or whatever, then maybe at some point they can ramp up their level of investing, and it can even take a bit of time to get some accounts set up or to figure out from where they might source their coins in the beginning... yet of course, on the forum, we cannot necessarily know the options that might be available to people in differing geographical locations - even though in recent times, I have not really seen too many members complaining about their coin sourcing options .. even though surely it can be a bit of a factor to figure out in some locations.
I am also quite accepting of the time it requires to learn things, but we live in a bit strange times or the information connectedness has made us more aware of many people who are this way. Not so long ago it was considered wise to listen to older people with experience or simply those that have a lot of experience in a certain field. Now it seems that many people refuse to do that and have a right now I know what I am doing style that is similar to gambling or degenerate. Like I gave one example, I have others through my life where I warned people of not investing in some scams like 1% guaranteed return daily. Very few have actually heeded the warnings on time despite having no experience in that field. I did give them proper educational warning and not something insulting like just saying don't be stupid, don't do that. Sometimes I find it a bit sad that one help many people this way at all these days
but in the end everyone is responsible for their own decisions. It is on us to try to help others and educate them, and it is on them if they don't want to listen.
You are wrong when you are suggesting such high focus upon "profits".. so in that regard you seem to be unable to discuss the matter properly because you cannot even remove yourself from a trader mentality... so then you proclaim that everyone has the same mentality about profits, when they don't.
It is quite unusual for the user to suggest that speculation is necessarily where the history of Bitcoin and data about it shows is that those that don't speculate and just invest for the long term have significantly outperformed everyone.
We cannot really guarantee that the long term ongoing accumulation is going to continue to be profitable, and we might even assert that the future bitcoin price slope might be less steep than it has been historically, yet at the same time, there is no real data to support any assertion that bitcoin's investment thesis is weakening with the passage of time, so in that sense, even a brand new bitcoiner should consider figuring out ways to get started investing into bitcoin and to focus on trying to figure out ways to ongoingly accumulate bitcoin within an amount that they consider to be workable for their own cashflows, and surely there are some guys who have very little back up funds, and they likely need to make sure that they have back up funds if they are going to be investing into bitcoin for long periods forward, since there surely can be challenges to have a lot of confidence about not being tempted to tap into our bitcoin investment if we are not putting systems/practices into place that gives us some cushion in the event that our income might go down and/or our expenses might go up and we want to be able to continue to build our bitcoin for 4-10 years or longer, even if there might be some periods in which we might not be in a position to continue to add to our bitcoin stash that we are hopefully ongoingly building until it gets to a reasonable decently sized amount.
We can't guarantee anything, that is correct however still it would be quite unusual to suggest something that has never been proven to be the superior strategy. One could say a change is coming sure, but one can't have too much certainty and give it off as if it is going to be a sure thing. We know that historically DCA and holding has outperformed traders and speculators on average, actually this happens also in other markets. I recall some studies that were done that found this out, and other studies have replicated those findings. Here is an article about it
https://tradeciety.com/24-statistics-why-most-traders-lose-money. Especially also when you consider people who do not have experience trading and speculating in any market at all, they should not really receive that advice in my view.
Trading in Bitcoin but even worse in crypto which is what many normal people who call themselves traders in this space also do is very risky, for shitcoins it is like playing in a casino. It works well until that one moment where everything is lost and one can never recover to that point unless you put in a lot more money to buy back everything that you have built.
There are some folks who have somewhat degenerate personalities, yet if they could figure out how to at least limit the amount of their exposure to either trading and/or to shitcoins (perhaps to less than 10% of the size of their bitcoin holdings, then they might have some chance of learning their way out of such bad habits, yet so many times, there can be difficulties for guys to limit their own bad habits.. since they might have inclinations to go beyond their self-imposed limits, and then it just becomes an ever growing devolution.. that they might not be able to control.. so yeah, it can be difficult for guys who already have such gambling inclinations.
Yeah, I mean I have even had people who held fair portions of Bitcoin and some shitcoin. But they didn't have any defined limits. So once their shitcoin performed well most likely to luck they got a taste of what seemed easy money and transferred most of the stack into it hoping to make even more money. It didn't end so either. Now that I am writing this, it seems that almost any combination of anything has been tried especially degenerate things. Perhaps that also shows that many people have an issue with patience? Monthly or weekly DCA especially one that is automated with some platform or tools can be seen as quite boring compared to the shitcoin or futures roller coaster. Perhaps with so much addiction to gratification these days, one of the best strategies is simply too boring for many? What do you think about this possibility?
I believe that there are actually very few reasons to stop accumulating. Sure we can think of specifics like reaching your own goal, the old established goal but why stop there?
Of course, each person has to consider his own situation and the extent to which it might be practical to change his goals (to make them higher) once he had already reached them. Surely I understand that sometimes guys might set their goals too low, so there can be some reasonable basis for making the goals higher after they had been reached... and so surely the guy has to account for his own factors.. and then what it might mean to him to continue to want to accumulate more bitcoin when he may well have enough and/or even more than enough... and so maybe it is difficult to talk about these kinds of ideas in the abstract, since if we are working with a set of particulars, we may well recognize and appreciate how at some point enough, should be enough, and getting to the status of enough could open doors to have the freedom to quit ones job and to be able to live off of his bitcoin for the rest of his life.
Of course, your registration date is less than a year ago, so maybe we need to use a guy with a longer history, and sure we can change around the particulars, yet I am trying to show at what point a guy might have had reached enough or more than enough.
So, let me use an example of a guy who perhaps came to bitcoin in his mid 30s towards the beginning of 2016, and at that time, he had been perhaps attended some college, and he had been working for the past 10 or more years, and maybe he had some success and/or not, yet his income was around $30k per year, and his then investment portfolio was around $45k.. .. so he was not in a bad place, but he still wanted to be able to retire in his early to mid-50s, so maybe he first heard about bitcoin around that early 2016 time, so he considered that maybe he could take around $10k from his already existing investment portfolio and put that into bitcoin, and otherwise he would continue to invest in bitcoin at a pace of around $100 per week (which was around 17.33% of his income).
He started out by investing the $11k in bitcoin between January and March 2026 - so he accumulated 27.25 BTC
Then thereafter starting from April 1, 2016 until now, he invested $100 per week into bitcoin, which added up to another $52k invested and 12.1 BTC.
So up until now he had invested right around $63k into bitcoin and he has 49.35 bitcoin. I have a hard time concluding that the guy does not have enough or more than enough bitcoin, since his income was $30k per year, and perhaps his goal would have had been to have an income of around $80k per year and not having to work, yet right now he could get a sustainable income of
$80k per year for right around 15.2 BTC per yearYet, right now his 49.35 BTC will support an income that is about 3x his goal and right around 8x the $30k per year income that he had been making. Sure, the guy is in his mid to late 40s because he is 10 years older, yet he is also ahead of schedule in terms of options.
You can quibble with the example, yet my main point is that there can be enough or more than enough, whether the person might be wanting to merely replace his current standard of living or perhaps to increase his standard of living by some reasonable multiple higher. If the guy says that he is not going to stop untiil he is a billionarie, or that he is making over a million per year from his bitcoin, then he has a right to do those things even though they might not be necessary, especially some folks do not necessarily want to change their llfestyle in magnitude kinds of ways.
It is hard to talk about this in an abstract way, you are right on that because it depends on so many things and the details of each person. What I could maybe say in general there that applies is that whatever goals have been set and even more if they are far into the future, the strategy and goals will need revisiting and adapting. They may not necessarily be big changes, but like we gave the example of someone who is now earning considerably more than when they set the goals then they would have to adapt it upwards in this case.
For the example given, it is a good one and I'm actually also surprised that in such a short time span so much Bitcoin would have been accumulated. That was a good time to buy Bitcoin! That said, I didn't mean to say that there is no reason for anyone to stop at all in any case. It was more my personal view. I want more Bitcoin, but I am into Bitcoin I am not here just for the concept of investment. I do not plan to retire early like that guy, I like the work that I am doing it is quite fulfilling. So what would I do with all that spare cash? I do not like to waste it on overpriced items that are worth it, and neither is over-consumption of anything good including traveling. It is quite possible to reach a state that one would simply have money losing value in fiat, so what else one would do if they were like me than to accumulate more of other things even if old goals were met?
13. Post 66532653 (unedited backup) (by Wolf of One Street) (scraped on Sat Mar 21 18:37:49 CET 2026) in Buy every dip, and HODL!:
You are right, taking profit shouldn't be the focus of new investors but rather there plans should be long term which is a continuous accumulation for years. And also, nobody has a plan of investing in anything without having a vision of future return on investment(ROI). I stand to be corrected, You cannot tell me that our senior colleagues who invested early in Bitcoin here hasn't made enough profits from their investments, and also, you cannot tell me that non of them has ever taken a small portion out of there profits or gains for personal usage. You can clearly say that the focus of new investors shouldn't be on profits but rather on accumulation and long term investment, but you cannot say taking profit from your ROI on the long term is totally out of context. If we can't make profits at all from our investments, why invest?
When you are talking, it's better that you speak for yourself because not everyone reason in the same way as you, it's true that some investors may have temper with their holdings for personal use at a point in their accumulation journey, but does that makes it the right step?
No, because a Bitcoin investor has no business tempering or selling his Bitcoin for minimal gains when he is still in his accumulation phase, someone is doing something doesn't mean that the said investor is right, because buying is one thing, and holding strong for a very long time is another thing altogether, that is why measures like emergency and reserve funds are needed, so that you wouldn't have to temper with your Bitcoin investment during your accumulation phase.
Even when someone has hit over-accumulation they can still be accumulating bitcoin so technically over-accumulation doesn't stop you from accumulating more bitcoin, and we also need to understand that there is no set timeline on when to hit over-accumulation,
Once a person reaches overaccumulation status, then he does not need to accumulate more BTC.
Sure, there can be some folks who want to have a cushion beyond their target bitcoin accumulation levels, .. so then if they are choosing to accumulate more up to a certain target level, then they have the option of stopping their accumulation at any time once they have gotten into overaccumulation territories.
So for example, perhaps a person who had a $30k income and who had been accumulating bitcoin for the past 10 years with a goal of being able to comfortably withdraw $80k per year, so then if
he has somewhere between 13 BTC and 15.2 BTC, he might not be completely comfortable with his ability to withdraw at least $80k per year.
However, if he has somewhere close to 20 BTC, then he would feel more comfortable (because at that point he would clearly have at least 5 BTC extra (30% extra))... also even with 15 BTC, he might feel more comfortable once the BTC spot price is at least 25% above the 200-WMA... and even if he does not accumulate any more BTC, in 2027, he is likely going to be comfortable with anything between 13-15 BTC being enough or more than enough BTC to sustain (forever and ever and ever) his target $80k per year income from it (even with a 7% per year raise, in dollar terms).
So then the question for him might be how much is enough, and sure maybe he wants to change his target, but even with an $80k per year income from his bitcoin, he would already be right around 2.67x higher than his current income.
Another thing is with the passage of time (especially if using the 200-WMA as his valuation metric), the quantity of bitcoin that he needs to support an $80k per year income continues to become less and less so that as long as he is not overly withdrawing from it, he does not need to accumulate more bitcoin (you can see in
my fuck you status chart, even if it has not been updated after May of 2025).
it's definitely going to be different for each individual seeing as there is no way everyone started investing in bitcoin at the same and with the same amount in DCA or any other investment method so when Wolf of One Street was talking about ROI one can argue they were talking about after already hitting over-accumulation because the truth is that if you are planning to invest in bitcoin indefinitely for the rest of your life without ever having to take profit from it then I can't really say the investment is yours, you might as well just be saving for your future generations.
This explanation is very clear, concise and understandable. It has given me a clearer picture as well to know that one can actually invest for himself over a long term or indefinitely for their future generations without touching even after it has gotten to over accumulation stage.
Sometimes it is difficult to speak in generalities, and surely if we have a target of matching our current income or perhaps achieving some reasonable multiple of our current income, then it seems that we are being realistic in our creating a target.. .. but yeah, frequently we need to create some kind of a realistic target, and then perhaps consider down the road if we might want to (or need to) change it.
If you invest in Bitcoin according to the DCA method, it is certainly easy to keep the Bitcoin investment for a long time, and those who invest in Bitcoin will be able to succeed on this condition. Those who want to get returns as soon as they start investing in Bitcoin are basically greedy for money, so such wrong steps should not be taken at all.
The longer the Bitcoin investment, the more profitable it will be and the opportunity to invest in more Bitcoin will be created. It is best to follow the Bitcoin DCA method regularly rather than spending unnecessary time from now on.
I disagree with that investors who don't use the dca strategy to accumulate bitcoin won't not succeed. That's a lie and is misleading especially to the newbies. A lump sum investor can also be as successful just as a dca investor, what matters isn't just strategy but the amount of discretionary income and how long they can hold over the long term. For example If a lump investor can figure $300 as his discretionary income, invest twice the sum which is $600 every year and hold for 4-10 years, he will likely succeed.
You cannot invest beyond your discretionary income.
You are presuming the guy has funds somewhere else?
Another thing is that you are guessing in terms of how much to invest is enough or more than enough, and you are also guessing about success.
I frequently like to suggest if a guy is able to invest between 15% and 25% of his income (as long as all of that is discretionary funds), then he is investing pretty aggressively, and if he can keep that up for a whole cycle or two, then he would have had at least invested quite a bit into bitcoin in a short time (maybe he had invested anywhere between 1 year to 1.5 years of his income within 6 years), yet his aggressiveness is not guaranteed to pay off.
I agree with everything you said here because they are all true, the dca and lump sum are just accumulating strategies used to accumulate Bitcoin that best fits your discretionary income, not that it's the most important thing while investing in Bitcoin, the most important important things that makes a Bitcoin investors to be successful in his investment is by accumulating consistently and manage to accumulate a huge stash of it, and hold for a very long time, that way you are certain to be successful in it, when Bitcoin has risen to a million dollar or more, because the size of your stash is what's going to determine how successful you are going to be then.
You cannot have any bitcoin without a strategy, how can you say the strategy used is not the most important thing in investing bitcoin? All the things you mentioned still comes back to strategy that used.
consistency you speak of does not happen in its own it, you need to use a strategy like dca to be consistent. The ability to ongoingly invest overtime and build a huge stash also does not happen on its own you need a strategy.
staategy is one ofthe first and most important thing about investing in bitcoin. So quit thinking that strategy is not the most important.
When we talk about strategies, we should be considering both our bitcoin buying strategies such as DCA, lump sum and buying on dips, and also our cashflow management systems/practices
Accordingly there needs to be balance in both, and of course, the more balanced that we are able to be, then the more aggressive we can optionally be, yet we do not necessarily need to be aggressive in order to be successful.. since some guys may well prefer to be less aggressive so that they are less likely to make mistakes.. so we have options in terms of how we carry out these practices that include being able to adapt to changes that we might have in our income and/or our expenses - but then also with the passage of time, our mere building of our bitcoin buying systems and/or cashflow management systems is likely going to give us more confidence and also more knowledge about boundaries that we might want to push or tweaks that we might want to make, which should be a form of success in itself - even though we still might end up screwing things up and taking away from our success, so there is both execution risk and also risk with the asset itself in terms of various things that could go wrong and impact our actual success outcome (or lack there of).
I disagree with that investors who don't use the dca strategy to accumulate bitcoin won't not succeed. That's a lie and is misleading especially to the newbies. A lump sum investor can also be as successful just as a dca investor, what matters isn't just strategy but the amount of discretionary income and how long they can hold over the long term. For example If a lump investor can figure $300 as his discretionary income, invest twice the sum which is $600 every year and hold for 4-10 years, he will likely succeed.
I agree with everything you said here because they are all true, the dca and lump sum are just accumulating strategies used to accumulate Bitcoin that best fits your discretionary income, not that it's the most important thing while investing in Bitcoin, the most important important things that makes a Bitcoin investors to be successful in his investment is by accumulating consistently and manage to accumulate a huge stash of it, and hold for a very long time, that way you are certain to be successful in it, when Bitcoin has risen to a million dollar or more, because the size of your stash is what's going to determine how successful you are going to be then.
You guys are getting it twisted DCA strategy is not just a strategy for investing just because it fits ones discretionary income better, it goes beyond that, it's a useful risk management tool and it does a lot of things than just putting money in Bitcoin. It's the most suitable for newbies because it has some advantages that will benefit newbies like reducing the risk and stress of timing the market, and also it helps to train ones mind to be disciplined. It also makes investing accessible to any budget.
Investing is not so easy so the DCA strategy makes it easier for newbies that's why it suits them better.
Your emphasis on risk is vague.
DCA allows everyone to adapt their level of investment and also their cashflow management to their personal circumstances. It does not take away the risk of the investment, even though it allows each of us to choose the level of money that we are willing to lose by putting such money into bitcoin.
Anyone who invest in bitcoin do it for the sake of profit, so if anyone will come out and say he did not invest to get profit honestly I may not disagree with that statement reason is that, there are some people who are into the bitcoin investment just to save money, but they are not many. People who are investing now do it for porfit, that is why you will see that they invest for a long period of time, because we all know if it’s take that time they will make some good profit from their investment. So
So the fact is that, people who invest without the intention of profit are not many and it was before, everybody is now doing it for for money.
No one invests in Bitcoin just because they want to invest in it. Even those who don't understand Bitcoin aim to make profit from Bitcoin investment, and even those who understand Bitcoin don't invest in it because they just like Bitcoin; it is the profit and value that attract people to invest in it.
The reasons why people invest in Bitcoin are as a store of value, which they buy Bitcoin they never plan to use, and this Bitcoin can be theirs for a long time. Some people invest in Bitcoin because they see it as an investment that can be held for a long time until they are ready to make a profit.
So, the goal of investing in Bitcoin is just to make a profit and nothing much more.You sound like a person who has a trading mentality who is unable to think beyond such mentality.. so even though many folks want profits, profits is not the only goal - if you have heard about hedging (which is similar to insurance), the creation of options and/or financial sovereignty..? There are even some guys who proclaim to be in bitcoin "for the tech.".. so if you are trying to proclaim that you know all the reasons why everyone is in bitcoin, you are quite likely wrong and have a bit of a narrow way of thinking, even though you are trying to act like you are smart.
Those are also reasons to hold bitcoin that are not maniacally focused on profits.. and another thing.. if a person has a 15 year timeline (starting out investing in bitcoin at 50 years old and expecting to start cashing out at 65 years old), and they ongoingly buy bitcoin for 8-10 years, and then maybe they are planning to start to draw from their bitcoin around the time that they had been in bitcoin for 15 years (when they are 65 years old).
Sure they are likely going to be in a better position if their bitcoin is in profits, and surely they are in a better position if they had accumulated more bitcoin rather than accumulating less bitcoin.... yet at the same time, they may well not be specifically motivated by profits.. even though bitcoin happens to be one of the assets in their investment portfolio and one of the income sources that they expect to use in their retirement.
Surely, they would have had preferred it to have had appreciated in value, yet they also may well have other assets besides their bitcoin so their bitcoin investment is a hedge that may or may not end up being profitable (since it was expected to not be correlated).
So, when they reach 65 and they start to draw upon their bitcoin and their other assets at a rate that each one of the assets will support.... it is not maniacally focused on profits, even though some guys cannot think in any other way, they (including you) seem to be incapable.
14. Post 66532450 (unedited backup) (by Pmalek) (scraped on Sat Mar 21 17:28:25 CET 2026) in Advice -Ledger Nano and Ledger Nano S Plus on new laptop?:
I just installed Electrum and clicked the hardware wallet option, and my coins just appeared. Like this:
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Doing that will only recover coins at that specified derivation path and not any other. OP might have created multiple "accounts" as the old Ledger Live likes to call them. His bitcoin might be scattered around different derivation paths. It's better if he installed the bitcoin app on his new Nano S Plus and had Ledger Wallet scan standard derivation paths in search for funded segwit, nested segwit, and legacy accounts.
@BBitcoin92
Besides bitcoin, do you have any other coins? Ledger won't automatically display them in the app. You have to install each coin app separately in the Ledger Manager (maybe they call it Account Manager) and make Ledger Wallet scan for funded accounts. If you don't do that, they won't be visible in the software and its portfolio. You won't lose your coins, of course, but you won't be able to see them. Try to remember each altcoin you might have sent to your Ledger back in the day.
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BPIP)
62. 1285797:
GazetaBitcoin (
Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (19) 9285 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
63. 1311641:
tvplus006 (
Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (12) 2483 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
64. 1424178:
mole0815 (
Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (10) 3333 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
65. 1554927:
bitmover (
Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (7) 7320 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
66. 1582324:
DdmrDdmr (
Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (23) 11257 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
67. 1668017:
anonymousminer (
Trust: +41 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (7) 1410 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
68. 1724800:
Lakai01 (
Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (3) 3922 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
69. 1836948:
Bthd (
Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (5) 2608 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
70. 1852120:
fillippone (
Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (27) 20096 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
71. 1862043:
cryptofrka (
Trust: +17 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (8) 2494 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
72. 1878246:
abhiseshakana (
Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (0) 2472 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
73. 1980983:
The Cryptovator (
Trust: +19 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (20) 2527 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
74. 1982152:
lovesmayfamilis (
Trust: +30 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (28) 5477 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
75. 2003859:
DireWolfM14 (
Trust: +20 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (22) 5521 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
76. 2015418:
notblox1 (
Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (2) 1535 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
77. 2363935:
YOSHIE (
Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (17) 1887 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
78. 2477002:
inspace (
Trust: +5 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (4) 1234 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
79. 2519096:
Awaklara (
Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (6) 823 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
80. 2652924:
geophphreigh (
Trust: +32 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (4) 1136 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
81. 2654005:
zasad@ (
Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (7) 5503 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
82. 2658890:
Rikafip (
Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (27) 7801 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
83. 2709122:
Etranger (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (3) 1857 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
84. 2739424:
NotATether (
Trust: +7 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (11) 9572 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
85. 2739454:
Stalker22 (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (7) 1548 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
86. 2744352:
bullrun2024bro (
Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (7) 5177 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
87. 2775483:
BlackHatCoiner (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (7) 9464 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
88. 2776678:
Charles-Tim (
Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (4) 6272 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
89. 2796662:
Lillominato89 (
Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (3) 1240 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
90. 2836461:
Free Market Capitalist (
Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (6) 3273 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
91. 3373825:
paid2 (
Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (10) 3763 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
92. 3373858:
n0nce (
Trust: neutral) (
DT1! (8) 6057 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
93. 3442614:
YodasRedRocket (
Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (2) 647 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
94. 3486361:
PowerGlove (
Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (5) 6951 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
95. 3540187:
apogio (
Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (4) 2389 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
DT 2 1. 3:
satoshi (
Trust: +44 / =0 / -0) (
8433 Merit earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
2. 4:
sirius (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
884 Merit earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
3. 1268:
nanotube (
Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit
earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
4. 2676:
casascius (
Trust: +5 / =0 / -1) (
191 Merit earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
5. 2759:
midnightmagic (
Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (
27 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
6. 2786:
Pieter Wuille (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
198 Merit earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
7. 3318:
Luke-Jr (
Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (
196 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
8. 3380:
Vladimir (
Trust: neutral) (1 Merit
earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
9. 3420:
dooglus (
Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (
335 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
10. 6347:
Maged (
Trust: neutral) (
17 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
11. 6447:
forrestv (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
143 Merit earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
12. 7351:
EPiSKiNG (
Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit
earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
13. 10354:
JJG (
Trust: neutral) (
10 Merit earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
14. 10502:
SgtSpike (
Trust: neutral) (5 Merit
earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
15. 11275:
wariner (
Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (4 Merit
earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
16. 12089:
piotr_n (
Trust: neutral) (
449 Merit earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
17. 12459:
CydeWeys (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0)
(0 Merit earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
18. 13813:
smooth (
Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (
203 Merit earned) (
Trust list) (
BPIP)
19. 14001:
MiningBuddy (
Trust: neutral)
(0 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
16. Post 66531312 (unedited backup) (by LoyceV) (scraped on Sat Mar 21 09:06:19 CET 2026) in LoyceV's Merit data analysis (full data since Jan. 24, 2018; not just 120 days):
Weekly update (2026-03-13_Fri_05.18h)theymos' raw data (format: time amount msg user_from user_to)Sample1773370303 1 5576956.msg66503314 846936 385013
1773368493 1 5577197.msg66503317 1292764 30747
1773367818 1 178336.msg66503054 252510 223922
1773367042 5 5485864.msg63695736 1832947 3611476
1773362404 1 5576553.msg66486109 33156 84521
1773361794 1 5577229.msg66502529 18321 3688462
1773359710 1 5576066.msg66502215 2168312 1059082
1773358630 1 5567476.msg66502193 1174868 846936
1773357922 2 5576522.msg66493406 3610569 3688663
1773357459 5 5576066.msg66502215 375981 1059082
1773355963 2 5575984.msg66458395 3734097 3661617
1773355944 1 5576066.msg66502215 1012655 1059082
1773355625 2 5570794.msg66499623 463354 3742461
1773355606 5 5465201.msg66446109 407174 3573600
1773355497 1 5576066.msg66502215 2443746 1059082
1773355429 1 5576232.msg66499893 903702 3746827
1773355261 2 5577220.msg66502442 3322606 2004043
1773355247 1 178336.msg66502681 223922 64507
1773355062 1 178336.msg66502727 223922 252510
1773354937 1 5519917.msg66502452 252510 3508007
1773354866 1 5519917.msg66502228 252510 3664632
1773354659 2 5575166.msg66500371 3322606 2775483
1773354638 1 5577220.msg66502442 33156 2004043
1773354130 1 5576888.msg66502832 1280964 1041310
1773354090 1 5563538.msg66501701 3547969 1237522
1773353688 2 615953.msg6815569 2003859 113670
1773353429 2 5577214.msg66501786 3322606 2368176
1773353151 1 5487753.msg66500940 252510 3500874
1773352981 2 5573338.msg66365790 3322606 375981
1773352561 2 5571363.msg66497917 3322606 3742027
1773352523 1 5546384.msg66501682 252510 3529859
1773352384 1 178336.msg66502727 33156 252510
1773352334 2 5483885.msg63601412 33156 2776678
1773352308 1 5348270.msg66500830 252510 1852120
1773352297 1 5544046.msg66479435 1137579 516434
1773352203 4 5576086.msg66502606 33156 941526
1773352135 1 5575559.msg66443870 3570710 64507
1773352072 2 5575559.msg66444648 3570710 33156
1773351813 1 5562381.msg66496881 2741981 3731047
1773351790 1 5274675.msg66500278 252510 3442679
1773351328 2 5576272.msg66483432 3630142 3601488
1773350954 1 5573338.msg66365790 397633 375981
1773350768 2 5575049.msg66487120 3630142 3601488
1773350114 5 5577220.msg66502462 334783 3629575
1773349900 3 5571375.msg66502593 1852120 3687357
1773349847 3 5574403.msg66405041 3630142 3737490
1773349789 1 5571375.msg66502497 3687357 1852120
1773349736 1 5545396.msg66497954 3587984 3723320
1773349633 3 178336.msg66480284 1852120 379487
1773348980 5 5568599.msg66235485 3444699 3589532
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1516833930 7 2228.msg29479 135920 3
1516833833 1 178336.msg28855702 479624 1130992
1516833813 1 2817737.msg28849540 1001644 990403
1516833798 21 5.msg28 520313 3
1516833796 1 2808926.msg28728384 140584 35
1516833779 1 178336.msg28853916 479624 33156
1516833756 20 2482937.msg25417254 101872 135920
1516833713 21 5.msg28 169515 3
1516833686 1 2818179.msg28855276 994466 1196028
1516833610 49 1545652.msg15536651 206143 520313
1516833593 1 2818066.msg28855136 260067 520313
1516833592 2 2806168.msg28855427 520313 355846
1516833591 49 1545652.msg15536651 881377 520313
1516833523 1 2818066.msg28855343 539826 340795
1516833521 1 2818066.msg28855136 514126 520313
1516833478 1 2818066.msg28855136 482980 520313
1516833460 1 2818066.msg28854596 93844 520313
1516833451 1 2816214.msg28845827 1083353 1520388
1516833430 50 178608.msg28854963 884600 520313
1516833349 1 178336.msg28852898 479624 1521711
1516833346 1 2812863.msg28785611 303315 1707287
1516833329 1 2818066.msg28854596 206143 520313
1516833326 1 178336.msg28852768 479624 181806
1516833304 1 2818066.msg28853325 340795 877396
1516833289 1 2716104.msg28846824 1239985 1739247
1516833281 1 2818066.msg28853686 206143 136484
1516833252 1 2816647.msg28837916 169515 1701092
1516833251 1 178336.msg28849600 479624 172400
1516833237 1 2677441.msg28778318 123412 1090430
1516833230 1 2814078.msg28796083 520313 881377
1516833207 1 2772292.msg28837085 1189487 1028592
1516833203 1 2818066.msg28855136 101872 520313
1516833199 1 2818066.msg28853325 926641 877396
1516833148 1 2808926.msg28793321 78147 35
1516833148 1 2634042.msg28672219 123412 1094601
1516833111 1 2818066.msg28855136 535215 520313
1516833078 45 2813828.msg28801076 135920 101872
1516833070 1 2818066.msg28855136 881377 520313
1516833049 1 2677441.msg28848945 88254 903139
1516833048 1 2818066.msg28855136 101872 520313
1516833044 5 2818066.msg28855019 135920 688810
1516833001 5 2813828.msg28801076 135920 101872
1516832978 1 2384335.msg28854772 1344962 1101839
1516832969 1 2818066.msg28855136 881564 520313
1516832953 1 2818066.msg28854621 520313 101872
1516832934 1 2818066.msg28855136 877396 520313
1516832874 1 178608.msg28792130 884600 35
1516832842 5 2818066.msg28853325 688810 877396
1516832833 2 178336.msg28852079 479624 1257516
1516831941 1 2818066.msg28853325 35 877396
Full list* (55 MB) (not limited to 120 days, 2425 Merit transactions added since my previous update).
theymos' data (human readable format, including usernames and post titles)SampleOn Fri 13 Mar 2026 03:51:43 AM CET,
sabotag3x (
history) sent 1 Merit to
Paredao (
history) for
Re: Onde estavas em 3 de janeiro de 2009?.
On Fri 13 Mar 2026 03:21:33 AM CET,
tranthidung (
history) sent 1 Merit to
Vod (
history) for
<DEL]deleted post</DEL].
On Fri 13 Mar 2026 03:10:18 AM CET,
JayJuanGee (
history) sent 1 Merit to
Biodom (
history) for
<DEL]deleted post</DEL].
On Fri 13 Mar 2026 02:57:22 AM CET,
JaanusRaim (
history) sent 5 Merit to
Treeple (
history) for
Dealing with Regret.
On Fri 13 Mar 2026 01:40:04 AM CET,
vapourminer (
history) sent 1 Merit to
Welsh (
history) for
Re: Request to Pin: Scam Accusation Posting Guidelines.
.......
.......
.......
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:28:54 PM CET,
AdolfinWolf (
history) sent 1 Merit to
Lutpin (
history) for
Re: What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:54 PM CET,
Dahman El_Harrachi (
history) sent 1 Merit to
theymos (
history) for
Re: Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?).
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:22 PM CET,
Tyrantt (
history) sent 5 Merit to
AdolfinWolf (
history) for
What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:13 PM CET,
Last of the V8s (
history) sent 2 Merit to
Rosewater Foundation (
history) for
Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:12:21 PM CET,
theymos (
history) sent 1 Merit to
AdolfinWolf (
history) for
What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
Full list (582 MB)
Usernames to go with theymos' dataSample0:
deMerit (Bitcoin Forum) (
history) earned: 0 Merit.
3:
satoshi (
history) earned: 8433 Merit.
4:
sirius (
history) earned: 884 Merit.
10:
Xunie (
history) earned: 1 Merit.
11:
madhatter (
history) earned: 5 Merit.
.......
.......
.......
3749913:
BowClawblaw (
history) earned: 2 Merit.
3749923:
BobClawblaw (
history) earned: 4 Merit.
3749956:
funinfo (
history) earned: 1 Merit.
3750034:
(BTC) (
history) earned: 2 Merit.
3750258:
burnchat (
history) earned: 1 Merit.
Full list* (10 MB)
Usernames machine readableSample0: deMerit (Bitcoin Forum)
3: satoshi
4: sirius
10: Xunie
11: madhatter
12: nanaimogold
13: SmokeTooMuch
14: The Madhatter
21: AgoraMutual
23: 1 currency now
24: dwdollar
26: NewLibertyStandard
27: riX
28: Sabunir
29: giik
30: BitcoinFX
31: Suggester
33: m0mchil
34: BlueSky
35: theymos
37: soultcer
40: xc
42: ec
49: Cdecker
51: DannyM
97: dsg
101: Goldstein
143: laszlo
145: ducki2p
146: Brandon
163: Karmicads
182: Derrick
183: hugolp
198: allinvain
203: HostFat
206: teppy
217: SirArthur
224: Gavin Andresen
237: lachesis
241: QuantumMechanic
244: nixoid
251: wobber
262: chaord
267: virtualcoin
269: Bitcoiner
270: llama
271: Timo Y
274: limikael
284: joey.rich
288: Stone Man
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3746196: LUSUBY
3746294: tcatm2
3746381: flowingcapital
3746429: Tete130
3746445: MomusReign
3746499: kazikbalaganiarz
3746721: AnisEverRise
3746729: evgpokrow
3746827: rony_btc
3746871: xdxiug
3747125: TraderKnows007
3747215: highpay-ads
3747260: Glum_Climate_5517
3747322: Ngozi26
3747467: Dollartree
3747543: jinx_22
3747640: Mark00101
3747685: oxynaz
3747701: JonasKernDE
3747712: Mr intelligence
3747726: Spicoli
3747820: statumx
3747822: Amaro958
3747833: Chifather247
3747903: needsumhelp
3747917: billy.grabow
3747918: btchelp.io
3748112: ranswar
3748386: martschlo
3748434: alkalineph13
3748484: GemUtxo
3748490: luthen
3748579: Der_Gegenwert
3748655: deX001
3748702: Batractoxin
3748768: ghoulMAX
3748978: Meggie Leen
3749052: cezar1
3749153: yowbow
3749438: Zagal
3749590: Rex1971
3749597: Allicedreim123
3749642: Julienbxl
3749650: Wexler3K
3749819: Jzbond65
3749913: BowClawblaw
3749923: BobClawblaw
3749956: funinfo
3750034: (BTC)
3750258: burnchat
Full list (2 MB)
UserIDs, sent Merit and earned Merit machine readableSample0:569:0
3:0:8433
4:0:884
10:0:1
11:0:5
12:0:1
13:3:76
14:0:11
21:0:2
23:0:1
24:0:9
26:0:19
27:0:54
28:0:13
29:0:4
30:380:800
31:0:1
33:0:27
34:0:4
35:14328:14325
37:0:6
40:0:4
42:0:69
49:0:5
51:0:2
97:0:2
101:0:2
143:0:2483
145:0:1
146:0:4
163:0:21
182:1:0
183:9:1
198:2:83
203:68:301
206:0:14
217:3:36
224:0:1473
237:0:5
241:0:9
244:0:1
251:0:1
262:0:1
267:0:2
269:0:1
270:0:52
271:0:1
274:0:42
284:0:6
288:0:10
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3746196:2:6
3746294:0:11
3746381:0:5
3746429:0:3
3746445:0:6
3746499:0:1
3746721:0:1
3746729:0:2
3746827:0:16
3746871:0:3
3747125:0:73
3747215:0:1
3747260:0:16
3747322:0:1
3747467:0:4
3747543:0:7
3747640:0:2
3747685:0:1
3747701:0:10
3747712:0:1
3747726:0:1
3747820:0:3
3747822:0:5
3747833:0:2
3747903:0:1
3747917:0:2
3747918:0:1
3748112:0:1
3748386:0:3
3748434:0:1
3748484:0:13
3748490:0:7
3748579:0:2
3748655:0:1
3748702:0:1
3748768:0:1
3748978:0:4
3749052:0:2
3749153:0:1
3749438:0:3
3749590:0:9
3749597:0:7
3749642:0:1
3749650:0:1
3749819:0:1
3749913:0:2
3749923:0:4
3749956:0:1
3750034:1:2
3750258:0:1
Full list (1 MB)
Total number of users who received 1 or more Merit: 51095Sample 1. 20376 Merit received by LoyceV (#459836) from 1102 unique users in 11762 transactions
2. 20096 Merit received by fillippone (#1852120) from 745 unique users in 11025 transactions
3. 18883 Merit received by o_e_l_e_o (#1188543) from 801 unique users in 9983 transactions
4. 15236 Merit received by El duderino_ (#1067333) from 477 unique users in 8782 transactions
5. 14325 Merit received by theymos (#35) from 1223 unique users in 5143 transactions
6. 13093 Merit received by JayJuanGee (#252510) from 712 unique users in 8723 transactions
7. 11957 Merit received by Symmetrick (#2627711) from 773 unique users in 6854 transactions
8. 11918 Merit received by icopress (#1137579) from 580 unique users in 4573 transactions
9. 11621 Merit received by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) from 490 unique users in 6444 transactions
10. 11272 Merit received by pooya87 (#379147) from 604 unique users in 6555 transactions
11. 11257 Merit received by DdmrDdmr (#1582324) from 653 unique users in 6449 transactions
12. 10972 Merit received by cygan (#27470) from 504 unique users in 5721 transactions
13. 10600 Merit received by philipma1957 (#64507) from 579 unique users in 6070 transactions
14. 9872 Merit received by xhomerx10 (#120694) from 329 unique users in 5072 transactions
15. 9649 Merit received by nutildah (#317618) from 638 unique users in 5230 transactions
16. 9572 Merit received by NotATether (#2739424) from 525 unique users in 4439 transactions
17. 9472 Merit received by gmaxwell (#11425) from 335 unique users in 3406 transactions
18. 9464 Merit received by BlackHatCoiner (#2775483) from 453 unique users in 4731 transactions
19. 9415 Merit received by d5000 (#85033) from 435 unique users in 5149 transactions
20. 9341 Merit received by TryNinja (#557798) from 539 unique users in 4257 transactions
21. 9285 Merit received by GazetaBitcoin (#1285797) from 391 unique users in 3296 transactions
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17. Post 66531061 (unedited backup) (by Crytohillss) (scraped on Sat Mar 21 06:17:25 CET 2026) in Buy every dip, and HODL!:
You are right, taking profit shouldn't be the focus of new investors but rather there plans should be long term which is a continuous accumulation for years. And also, nobody has a plan of investing in anything without having a vision of future return on investment(ROI). I stand to be corrected, You cannot tell me that our senior colleagues who invested early in Bitcoin here hasn't made enough profits from their investments, and also, you cannot tell me that non of them has ever taken a small portion out of there profits or gains for personal usage. You can clearly say that the focus of new investors shouldn't be on profits but rather on accumulation and long term investment, but you cannot say taking profit from your ROI on the long term is totally out of context. If we can't make profits at all from our investments, why invest?
When you are talking, it's better that you speak for yourself because not everyone reason in the same way as you, it's true that some investors may have temper with their holdings for personal use at a point in their accumulation journey, but does that makes it the right step?
No, because a Bitcoin investor has no business tempering or selling his Bitcoin for minimal gains when he is still in his accumulation phase, someone is doing something doesn't mean that the said investor is right, because buying is one thing, and holding strong for a very long time is another thing altogether, that is why measures like emergency and reserve funds are needed, so that you wouldn't have to temper with your Bitcoin investment during your accumulation phase.
Even when someone has hit over-accumulation they can still be accumulating bitcoin so technically over-accumulation doesn't stop you from accumulating more bitcoin, and we also need to understand that there is no set timeline on when to hit over-accumulation,
Once a person reaches overaccumulation status, then he does not need to accumulate more BTC.
Sure, there can be some folks who want to have a cushion beyond their target bitcoin accumulation levels, .. so then if they are choosing to accumulate more up to a certain target level, then they have the option of stopping their accumulation at any time once they have gotten into overaccumulation territories.
So for example, perhaps a person who had a $30k income and who had been accumulating bitcoin for the past 10 years with a goal of being able to comfortably withdraw $80k per year, so then if
he has somewhere between 13 BTC and 15.2 BTC, he might not be completely comfortable with his ability to withdraw at least $80k per year.
However, if he has somewhere close to 20 BTC, then he would feel more comfortable (because at that point he would clearly have at least 5 BTC extra (30% extra))... also even with 15 BTC, he might feel more comfortable once the BTC spot price is at least 25% above the 200-WMA... and even if he does not accumulate any more BTC, in 2027, he is likely going to be comfortable with anything between 13-15 BTC being enough or more than enough BTC to sustain (forever and ever and ever) his target $80k per year income from it (even with a 7% per year raise, in dollar terms).
So then the question for him might be how much is enough, and sure maybe he wants to change his target, but even with an $80k per year income from his bitcoin, he would already be right around 2.67x higher than his current income.
Another thing is with the passage of time (especially if using the 200-WMA as his valuation metric), the quantity of bitcoin that he needs to support an $80k per year income continues to become less and less so that as long as he is not overly withdrawing from it, he does not need to accumulate more bitcoin (you can see in
my fuck you status chart, even if it has not been updated after May of 2025).
it's definitely going to be different for each individual seeing as there is no way everyone started investing in bitcoin at the same and with the same amount in DCA or any other investment method so when Wolf of One Street was talking about ROI one can argue they were talking about after already hitting over-accumulation because the truth is that if you are planning to invest in bitcoin indefinitely for the rest of your life without ever having to take profit from it then I can't really say the investment is yours, you might as well just be saving for your future generations.
Sometimes it is difficult to speak in generalities, and surely if we have a target of matching our current income or perhaps achieving some reasonable multiple of our current income, then it seems that we are being realistic in our creating a target.. .. but yeah, frequently we need to create some kind of a realistic target, and then perhaps consider down the road if we might want to (or need to) change it.
If you invest in Bitcoin according to the DCA method, it is certainly easy to keep the Bitcoin investment for a long time, and those who invest in Bitcoin will be able to succeed on this condition. Those who want to get returns as soon as they start investing in Bitcoin are basically greedy for money, so such wrong steps should not be taken at all.
The longer the Bitcoin investment, the more profitable it will be and the opportunity to invest in more Bitcoin will be created. It is best to follow the Bitcoin DCA method regularly rather than spending unnecessary time from now on.
I disagree with that investors who don't use the dca strategy to accumulate bitcoin won't not succeed. That's a lie and is misleading especially to the newbies. A lump sum investor can also be as successful just as a dca investor, what matters isn't just strategy but the amount of discretionary income and how long they can hold over the long term. For example If a lump investor can figure $300 as his discretionary income, invest twice the sum which is $600 every year and hold for 4-10 years, he will likely succeed.
You cannot invest beyond your discretionary income.
You are presuming the guy has funds somewhere else?
Another thing is that you are guessing in terms of how much to invest is enough or more than enough, and you are also guessing about success.
I frequently like to suggest if a guy is able to invest between 15% and 25% of his income (as long as all of that is discretionary funds), then he is investing pretty aggressively, and if he can keep that up for a whole cycle or two, then he would have had at least invested quite a bit into bitcoin in a short time (maybe he had invested anywhere between 1 year to 1.5 years of his income within 6 years), yet his aggressiveness is not guaranteed to pay off.
I agree with everything you said here because they are all true, the dca and lump sum are just accumulating strategies used to accumulate Bitcoin that best fits your discretionary income, not that it's the most important thing while investing in Bitcoin, the most important important things that makes a Bitcoin investors to be successful in his investment is by accumulating consistently and manage to accumulate a huge stash of it, and hold for a very long time, that way you are certain to be successful in it, when Bitcoin has risen to a million dollar or more, because the size of your stash is what's going to determine how successful you are going to be then.
You cannot have any bitcoin without a strategy, how can you say the strategy used is not the most important thing in investing bitcoin? All the things you mentioned still comes back to strategy that used.
consistency you speak of does not happen in its own it, you need to use a strategy like dca to be consistent. The ability to ongoingly invest overtime and build a huge stash also does not happen on its own you need a strategy.
staategy is one ofthe first and most important thing about investing in bitcoin. So quit thinking that strategy is not the most important.
When we talk about strategies, we should be considering both our bitcoin buying strategies such as DCA, lump sum and buying on dips, and also our cashflow management systems/practices
Accordingly there needs to be balance in both, and of course, the more balanced that we are able to be, then the more aggressive we can optionally be, yet we do not necessarily need to be aggressive in order to be successful.. since some guys may well prefer to be less aggressive so that they are less likely to make mistakes.. so we have options in terms of how we carry out these practices that include being able to adapt to changes that we might have in our income and/or our expenses - but then also with the passage of time, our mere building of our bitcoin buying systems and/or cashflow management systems is likely going to give us more confidence and also more knowledge about boundaries that we might want to push or tweaks that we might want to make, which should be a form of success in itself - even though we still might end up screwing things up and taking away from our success, so there is both execution risk and also risk with the asset itself in terms of various things that could go wrong and impact our actual success outcome (or lack there of).
I disagree with that investors who don't use the dca strategy to accumulate bitcoin won't not succeed. That's a lie and is misleading especially to the newbies. A lump sum investor can also be as successful just as a dca investor, what matters isn't just strategy but the amount of discretionary income and how long they can hold over the long term. For example If a lump investor can figure $300 as his discretionary income, invest twice the sum which is $600 every year and hold for 4-10 years, he will likely succeed.
I agree with everything you said here because they are all true, the dca and lump sum are just accumulating strategies used to accumulate Bitcoin that best fits your discretionary income, not that it's the most important thing while investing in Bitcoin, the most important important things that makes a Bitcoin investors to be successful in his investment is by accumulating consistently and manage to accumulate a huge stash of it, and hold for a very long time, that way you are certain to be successful in it, when Bitcoin has risen to a million dollar or more, because the size of your stash is what's going to determine how successful you are going to be then.
You guys are getting it twisted DCA strategy is not just a strategy for investing just because it fits ones discretionary income better, it goes beyond that, it's a useful risk management tool and it does a lot of things than just putting money in Bitcoin. It's the most suitable for newbies because it has some advantages that will benefit newbies like reducing the risk and stress of timing the market, and also it helps to train ones mind to be disciplined. It also makes investing accessible to any budget.
Investing is not so easy so the DCA strategy makes it easier for newbies that's why it suits them better.
Your emphasis on risk is vague.
DCA allows everyone to adapt their level of investment and also their cashflow management to their personal circumstances. It does not take away the risk of the investment, even though it allows each of us to choose the level of money that we are willing to lose by putting such money into bitcoin.
Anyone who invest in bitcoin do it for the sake of profit, so if anyone will come out and say he did not invest to get profit honestly I may not disagree with that statement reason is that, there are some people who are into the bitcoin investment just to save money, but they are not many. People who are investing now do it for porfit, that is why you will see that they invest for a long period of time, because we all know if it’s take that time they will make some good profit from their investment. So
So the fact is that, people who invest without the intention of profit are not many and it was before, everybody is now doing it for for money.
No one invests in Bitcoin just because they want to invest in it. Even those who don't understand Bitcoin aim to make profit from Bitcoin investment, and even those who understand Bitcoin don't invest in it because they just like Bitcoin; it is the profit and value that attract people to invest in it.
The reasons why people invest in Bitcoin are as a store of value, which they buy Bitcoin they never plan to use, and this Bitcoin can be theirs for a long time. Some people invest in Bitcoin because they see it as an investment that can be held for a long time until they are ready to make a profit.
So, the goal of investing in Bitcoin is just to make a profit and nothing much more.You sound like a person who has a trading mentality who is unable to think beyond such mentality.. so even though many folks want profits, profits is not the only goal - if you have heard about hedging (which is similar to insurance), the creation of options and/or financial sovereignty..? There are even some guys who proclaim to be in bitcoin "for the tech.".. so if you are trying to proclaim that you know all the reasons why everyone is in bitcoin, you are quite likely wrong and have a bit of a narrow way of thinking, even though you are trying to act like you are smart.
Those are also reasons to hold bitcoin that are not maniacally focused on profits.. and another thing.. if a person has a 15 year timeline (starting out investing in bitcoin at 50 years old and expecting to start cashing out at 65 years old), and they ongoingly buy bitcoin for 8-10 years, and then maybe they are planning to start to draw from their bitcoin around the time that they had been in bitcoin for 15 years (when they are 65 years old).
Sure they are likely going to be in a better position if their bitcoin is in profits, and surely they are in a better position if they had accumulated more bitcoin rather than accumulating less bitcoin.... yet at the same time, they may well not be specifically motivated by profits.. even though bitcoin happens to be one of the assets in their investment portfolio and one of the income sources that they expect to use in their retirement.
Surely, they would have had preferred it to have had appreciated in value, yet they also may well have other assets besides their bitcoin so their bitcoin investment is a hedge that may or may not end up being profitable (since it was expected to not be correlated).
So, when they reach 65 and they start to draw upon their bitcoin and their other assets at a rate that each one of the assets will support.... it is not maniacally focused on profits, even though some guys cannot think in any other way, they (including you) seem to be incapable.
There will be a point where accumulation of Bitcoin we becomes optional rather than necessary, over accumulation it's not just about hitting a number but also about comfort and flexibility in future withdrawal using the 200WMA as a reference to gauge how much is enough is a good one too, since it adapts over time truly it's a kind of reassuring to see that even with a moderate accumulation hitting the long term financial comfort isn't as far.
18. Post 66531010 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Sat Mar 21 05:29:31 CET 2026) in Buy every dip, and HODL!:
You are right, taking profit shouldn't be the focus of new investors but rather there plans should be long term which is a continuous accumulation for years. And also, nobody has a plan of investing in anything without having a vision of future return on investment(ROI). I stand to be corrected, You cannot tell me that our senior colleagues who invested early in Bitcoin here hasn't made enough profits from their investments, and also, you cannot tell me that non of them has ever taken a small portion out of there profits or gains for personal usage. You can clearly say that the focus of new investors shouldn't be on profits but rather on accumulation and long term investment, but you cannot say taking profit from your ROI on the long term is totally out of context. If we can't make profits at all from our investments, why invest?
When you are talking, it's better that you speak for yourself because not everyone reason in the same way as you, it's true that some investors may have temper with their holdings for personal use at a point in their accumulation journey, but does that makes it the right step?
No, because a Bitcoin investor has no business tempering or selling his Bitcoin for minimal gains when he is still in his accumulation phase, someone is doing something doesn't mean that the said investor is right, because buying is one thing, and holding strong for a very long time is another thing altogether, that is why measures like emergency and reserve funds are needed, so that you wouldn't have to temper with your Bitcoin investment during your accumulation phase.
Even when someone has hit over-accumulation they can still be accumulating bitcoin so technically over-accumulation doesn't stop you from accumulating more bitcoin, and we also need to understand that there is no set timeline on when to hit over-accumulation,
Once a person reaches overaccumulation status, then he does not need to accumulate more BTC.
Sure, there can be some folks who want to have a cushion beyond their target bitcoin accumulation levels, .. so then if they are choosing to accumulate more up to a certain target level, then they have the option of stopping their accumulation at any time once they have gotten into overaccumulation territories.
So for example, perhaps a person who had a $30k income and who had been accumulating bitcoin for the past 10 years with a goal of being able to comfortably withdraw $80k per year, so then if
he has somewhere between 13 BTC and 15.2 BTC, he might not be completely comfortable with his ability to withdraw at least $80k per year.
However, if he has somewhere close to 20 BTC, then he would feel more comfortable (because at that point he would clearly have at least 5 BTC extra (30% extra))... also even with 15 BTC, he might feel more comfortable once the BTC spot price is at least 25% above the 200-WMA... and even if he does not accumulate any more BTC, in 2027, he is likely going to be comfortable with anything between 13-15 BTC being enough or more than enough BTC to sustain (forever and ever and ever) his target $80k per year income from it (even with a 7% per year raise, in dollar terms).
So then the question for him might be how much is enough, and sure maybe he wants to change his target, but even with an $80k per year income from his bitcoin, he would already be right around 2.67x higher than his current income.
Another thing is with the passage of time (especially if using the 200-WMA as his valuation metric), the quantity of bitcoin that he needs to support an $80k per year income continues to become less and less so that as long as he is not overly withdrawing from it, he does not need to accumulate more bitcoin (you can see in
my fuck you status chart, even if it has not been updated after May of 2025).
it's definitely going to be different for each individual seeing as there is no way everyone started investing in bitcoin at the same and with the same amount in DCA or any other investment method so when Wolf of One Street was talking about ROI one can argue they were talking about after already hitting over-accumulation because the truth is that if you are planning to invest in bitcoin indefinitely for the rest of your life without ever having to take profit from it then I can't really say the investment is yours, you might as well just be saving for your future generations.
Sometimes it is difficult to speak in generalities, and surely if we have a target of matching our current income or perhaps achieving some reasonable multiple of our current income, then it seems that we are being realistic in our creating a target.. .. but yeah, frequently we need to create some kind of a realistic target, and then perhaps consider down the road if we might want to (or need to) change it.
If you invest in Bitcoin according to the DCA method, it is certainly easy to keep the Bitcoin investment for a long time, and those who invest in Bitcoin will be able to succeed on this condition. Those who want to get returns as soon as they start investing in Bitcoin are basically greedy for money, so such wrong steps should not be taken at all.
The longer the Bitcoin investment, the more profitable it will be and the opportunity to invest in more Bitcoin will be created. It is best to follow the Bitcoin DCA method regularly rather than spending unnecessary time from now on.
I disagree with that investors who don't use the dca strategy to accumulate bitcoin won't not succeed. That's a lie and is misleading especially to the newbies. A lump sum investor can also be as successful just as a dca investor, what matters isn't just strategy but the amount of discretionary income and how long they can hold over the long term. For example If a lump investor can figure $300 as his discretionary income, invest twice the sum which is $600 every year and hold for 4-10 years, he will likely succeed.
You cannot invest beyond your discretionary income.
You are presuming the guy has funds somewhere else?
Another thing is that you are guessing in terms of how much to invest is enough or more than enough, and you are also guessing about success.
I frequently like to suggest if a guy is able to invest between 15% and 25% of his income (as long as all of that is discretionary funds), then he is investing pretty aggressively, and if he can keep that up for a whole cycle or two, then he would have had at least invested quite a bit into bitcoin in a short time (maybe he had invested anywhere between 1 year to 1.5 years of his income within 6 years), yet his aggressiveness is not guaranteed to pay off.
I agree with everything you said here because they are all true, the dca and lump sum are just accumulating strategies used to accumulate Bitcoin that best fits your discretionary income, not that it's the most important thing while investing in Bitcoin, the most important important things that makes a Bitcoin investors to be successful in his investment is by accumulating consistently and manage to accumulate a huge stash of it, and hold for a very long time, that way you are certain to be successful in it, when Bitcoin has risen to a million dollar or more, because the size of your stash is what's going to determine how successful you are going to be then.
You cannot have any bitcoin without a strategy, how can you say the strategy used is not the most important thing in investing bitcoin? All the things you mentioned still comes back to strategy that used.
consistency you speak of does not happen in its own it, you need to use a strategy like dca to be consistent. The ability to ongoingly invest overtime and build a huge stash also does not happen on its own you need a strategy.
staategy is one ofthe first and most important thing about investing in bitcoin. So quit thinking that strategy is not the most important.
When we talk about strategies, we should be considering both our bitcoin buying strategies such as DCA, lump sum and buying on dips, and also our cashflow management systems/practices
Accordingly there needs to be balance in both, and of course, the more balanced that we are able to be, then the more aggressive we can optionally be, yet we do not necessarily need to be aggressive in order to be successful.. since some guys may well prefer to be less aggressive so that they are less likely to make mistakes.. so we have options in terms of how we carry out these practices that include being able to adapt to changes that we might have in our income and/or our expenses - but then also with the passage of time, our mere building of our bitcoin buying systems and/or cashflow management systems is likely going to give us more confidence and also more knowledge about boundaries that we might want to push or tweaks that we might want to make, which should be a form of success in itself - even though we still might end up screwing things up and taking away from our success, so there is both execution risk and also risk with the asset itself in terms of various things that could go wrong and impact our actual success outcome (or lack there of).
I disagree with that investors who don't use the dca strategy to accumulate bitcoin won't not succeed. That's a lie and is misleading especially to the newbies. A lump sum investor can also be as successful just as a dca investor, what matters isn't just strategy but the amount of discretionary income and how long they can hold over the long term. For example If a lump investor can figure $300 as his discretionary income, invest twice the sum which is $600 every year and hold for 4-10 years, he will likely succeed.
I agree with everything you said here because they are all true, the dca and lump sum are just accumulating strategies used to accumulate Bitcoin that best fits your discretionary income, not that it's the most important thing while investing in Bitcoin, the most important important things that makes a Bitcoin investors to be successful in his investment is by accumulating consistently and manage to accumulate a huge stash of it, and hold for a very long time, that way you are certain to be successful in it, when Bitcoin has risen to a million dollar or more, because the size of your stash is what's going to determine how successful you are going to be then.
You guys are getting it twisted DCA strategy is not just a strategy for investing just because it fits ones discretionary income better, it goes beyond that, it's a useful risk management tool and it does a lot of things than just putting money in Bitcoin. It's the most suitable for newbies because it has some advantages that will benefit newbies like reducing the risk and stress of timing the market, and also it helps to train ones mind to be disciplined. It also makes investing accessible to any budget.
Investing is not so easy so the DCA strategy makes it easier for newbies that's why it suits them better.
Your emphasis on risk is vague.
DCA allows everyone to adapt their level of investment and also their cashflow management to their personal circumstances. It does not take away the risk of the investment, even though it allows each of us to choose the level of money that we are willing to lose by putting such money into bitcoin.
Anyone who invest in bitcoin do it for the sake of profit, so if anyone will come out and say he did not invest to get profit honestly I may not disagree with that statement reason is that, there are some people who are into the bitcoin investment just to save money, but they are not many. People who are investing now do it for porfit, that is why you will see that they invest for a long period of time, because we all know if it’s take that time they will make some good profit from their investment. So
So the fact is that, people who invest without the intention of profit are not many and it was before, everybody is now doing it for for money.
No one invests in Bitcoin just because they want to invest in it. Even those who don't understand Bitcoin aim to make profit from Bitcoin investment, and even those who understand Bitcoin don't invest in it because they just like Bitcoin; it is the profit and value that attract people to invest in it.
The reasons why people invest in Bitcoin are as a store of value, which they buy Bitcoin they never plan to use, and this Bitcoin can be theirs for a long time. Some people invest in Bitcoin because they see it as an investment that can be held for a long time until they are ready to make a profit.
So, the goal of investing in Bitcoin is just to make a profit and nothing much more.You sound like a person who has a trading mentality who is unable to think beyond such mentality.. so even though many folks want profits, profits is not the only goal - if you have heard about hedging (which is similar to insurance), the creation of options and/or financial sovereignty..? There are even some guys who proclaim to be in bitcoin "for the tech.".. so if you are trying to proclaim that you know all the reasons why everyone is in bitcoin, you are quite likely wrong and have a bit of a narrow way of thinking, even though you are trying to act like you are smart.
Those are also reasons to hold bitcoin that are not maniacally focused on profits.. and another thing.. if a person has a 15 year timeline (starting out investing in bitcoin at 50 years old and expecting to start cashing out at 65 years old), and they ongoingly buy bitcoin for 8-10 years, and then maybe they are planning to start to draw from their bitcoin around the time that they had been in bitcoin for 15 years (when they are 65 years old).
Sure they are likely going to be in a better position if their bitcoin is in profits, and surely they are in a better position if they had accumulated more bitcoin rather than accumulating less bitcoin.... yet at the same time, they may well not be specifically motivated by profits.. even though bitcoin happens to be one of the assets in their investment portfolio and one of the income sources that they expect to use in their retirement.
Surely, they would have had preferred it to have had appreciated in value, yet they also may well have other assets besides their bitcoin so their bitcoin investment is a hedge that may or may not end up being profitable (since it was expected to not be correlated).
So, when they reach 65 and they start to draw upon their bitcoin and their other assets at a rate that each one of the assets will support.... it is not maniacally focused on profits, even though some guys cannot think in any other way, they (including you) seem to be incapable.
19. Post 66530648 (unedited backup) (by dewez) (scraped on Sat Mar 21 00:23:50 CET 2026) in l0tt0.com:
yes you are right (right now). but Tether ETH fees swings all the time, and can get to $2-4. when it comes to Tether TRON i was using staked prices. which 50% of people have.
honestly, the other issue with ETH is running the node, its not fun to say the least.
Tether TRON is used more, so we're going with that.
I understand the reasons. I didnt know ethereum node was so complicated to setup.
But USDT erc-20 is still the largest one in term of reserves .
Maybe you consider it in a next update. Or a cheap L2 option like polygon
well shit.. arent you a little know it all.
20. Post 66530173 (unedited backup) (by Forsyth Jones) (scraped on Fri Mar 20 22:06:02 CET 2026) in Mixers to be banned:
The main idea isn't to earn 300 p/w, besides since the exit of the mixers, we have been earning.
Theymos is not gonna lock the thread because he also watches the thread for any new developments. The ban of mixers was a forced decision, so it is probably not a permanent one if things will go well.
Yes, I know, I'm not criticizing that. I think the payment is defined by the companies together with the managers, a valid voluntary relationship.
I think we won't have a president who is more pro-crypto like Trump (despite his personal motivations). The guy is more motivated by other things and has blood in his eyes attacking other dictatorial countries and arresting dictators like Maduro. So the next years of his term will be more focused on that. So when his term ends, it's very likely that attacks on privacy and the imposition of more restrictions will resume (pray it's not some old fool democrat like Biden who likes to mess with Bitcoin and privacy).
While the Trump administration is massively better than the Biden administration regarding persecution of privacy-protecting services, this seems partly to be due to general chaos at the agencies and a deprioritization of this kind of thing, rather than a real pro-freedom ideology; you can see in e.g. the Samourai and Paxful cases that they will go after privacy-protecting services when convenient. Moreover, right now is the best environment that we're ever going to get: I think that Trump may get progressively worse on these issues as he and his subordinates get annoyed by specific cases of money laundering, and after Trump, whether Democrat or Republican, it's almost certainly going to get a lot worse than now.
I am thinking that I will change the rules to allow:
- Unpaid linking directly to mixers in posts, as long as the mixers aren't also "illegal darknet sites" (which is a term I need to more exactly define).
- Easing the enforcement of indirection. For example, in the past we would not allow sig ads which point to an article talking about and linking to a mixer. But it's probably OK now if this kind of thing is allowed.
I haven't decided yet on the exact language of those rule changes, though, so the existing rules stand for now.
I didn't get the point theymos made above. Just because a site is on the dark web doesn't necessarily mean it's illegal, there are several services that have onion mirrors, but as he said, it's a term that needs to be defined more precisely.
Although you are right and privacy is being criminalized , there are still some good advances in privacy.
For example, before bitcoin we could not send money out of our country without the informing the government (very strict capital control in Brazil). Now we can, and it is extremely easy to do so, using bitcoin or USDT.
Basically anyone can buy bitcoin (CEX, p2p, DEX, whatever) and send to anyone anywhere in the world, free of charge or taxes (for now), and without informing or asking permission for anyone.
Bitcoin is the present and the future. They can't stop it.
They're already starting to limit fiat withdrawals in brazil, the government is forcing people to use only digital payments (which are more easily tracked by the government), while Trump prohibited the development of a dollar CBDC (I see there are some people here who hate Trump, they don't know what it's like to have a truly evil president like lula), while in brazil, we already have PIX which is enough for the tax authority (equivalent to an IRS) to monitor and cross-check citizens' data.
21. Post 66529304 (unedited backup) (by dewez) (scraped on Fri Mar 20 17:21:13 CET 2026) in l0tt0.com:
yeah i guess you proved me wrong. historically this has not been the fact, so we'll see.
honestly, the other issue with ETH is running the node, its not fun to say the least.
22. Post 66528114 (unedited backup) (by Pmalek) (scraped on Fri Mar 20 09:30:19 CET 2026) in l0tt0.com:
not sure where you go this.. its the cheapest. ETH has fucking crazy fees.
bitmover is right. Tron is the most expensive network for sending stablecoins and other tokens for ordinary users. When I say 'ordinary', I mean those who aren't staking TRX and can take advantage of free energy to move tokens without paying network fees until their energy resources are spent for the day. If that's not the case, you will be paying either 6.4 TRX (almost $2) or 13 TRX (around $4) for a stablecoin transaction from a non-custodial wallet.
The same type of transaction on the Ethereum network costs like $0.001 converted into ETH.
23. Post 66528049 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Fri Mar 20 09:06:13 CET 2026) in Autocustódia de Bitcoin, tutorial que achei perfeito pra iniciantes e avançados.:
Sim, realmente o site parece ter coisas interessantes.
Faz lembrar o site do bitmover -
https://bitcoindata.science/Talvez dê para ele tirar algumas ideias.
Acertei todas do quiz, sou um maximalista
O quiz até é um pouco básico... Acho que todos vamos ser maximalistas.
24. Post 66527813 (unedited backup) (by dewez) (scraped on Fri Mar 20 06:50:13 CET 2026) in l0tt0.com:
But I dont get why tron is so popular.
It is the most expensive network to use...
not sure where you go this.. its the cheapest.
25. Post 66525767 (unedited backup) (by Haunebu) (scraped on Thu Mar 19 16:04:37 CET 2026) in Polymarket.com - Bets on any events (politics, sports, crypto markets, and more):
That is a complicated situation. It is unfair to blame polymarket, however, such situations should be considered by polymarket in the future when making the criteria.
Maybe they could add something like various reports in the media, not just one report. Then the criminals would have to make multiple threats instead of just one, which would make things much more complicated.
This is definitely complicated for sure. On one hand, Polymarket should accept some form of responsibility for providing such markets with their custom set of terms and conditions while blame falls on such insane gamblers due to which the site deserves less blame on the other hand.
No changes would stop such crazy gamblers which is just one of the inherent risks associated with prediction markets sadly.
26. Post 66525447 (unedited backup) (by Zenland) (scraped on Thu Mar 19 14:18:49 CET 2026) in [ESCROW] Zenland V2: DAO-Governed Smart Contract Escrow | 1% Fee, $50 Max:
Bros @Zenland, since you asked me to paste my NYKNYC address in
your thread in our local board, does that mean I have to make the review in Indonesian, or is it mandatory to make the review in this thread?
Well, I asked it to avoid any misunderstandings at the end of the review, wanting everything to run smoothly.
Hello Rashlyowl! We'd actually be very grateful if you could write your review in Bahasa Indonesia on the local board.
You have a strong reputation there, and it would mean a lot to have a local community member reviewing our service firsthand.
I hope it's not a problem
btw. When sending, there is no insight into the current balance, and even the "MAX" option does not recognize or enter the maximum amount.
The field for entering the seed phrase during verification is flat with a background, there are no frames or anything similar that would indicate that there is a field for entering text. Quite difficult to recognize, in dark mode, it is even worst
I will invite @bitmover, maybe he might be interested in learning about your platform.
Thank you, examplens! The first bug you found has already been fixed:
GitHub commitThe rest of the bugs have been added to our backlog and should be resolved soon. And thanks for inviting @bitmover!
Zenland, have you been to altcoinstalks.com?
Yes, we're there! In fact, we're the only real escrow service on the platform:
Zenland on AltcoinsTalksMy review about the service so far. To be updated.
I created my account there. I didn't use Google mail as suggested in the topic. I created an account using my email.
At first I connected my Brave wallet. It was ok. But then I was requested 2 more wallets to connect as a recommendation. I thought it was necessary, but I was able to bypass it and add a passkey using only 1 wallet connect.
Personally, I find invasive to request more than 1 wallet to connect. I don't like people to know what wallets/addresses and balance history I do have. But, as it was optional, it is fine.
That's a fair concern, bitmover. The reason NYKNYC asks for additional signers is to keep the wallet non-custodial while adding a safety net:
First signer - passkey. Your public key is stored directly inside your smart contract wallet. In normal use, you sign transactions in a second - with a fingerprint or PIN.
Second signer - backup key. This ensures that even if the NYKNYC site goes down, you can still sign transactions. And if you lose access to the device with your passkey, the backup key helps you recover control.
The goal was to make a wallet that's easier to use than browser extensions, without compromising on security. That said, with this test we're killing two birds with one stone - testing both the new wallet and Zenland itself. Zenland works with any Web3 wallet - MetaMask, Brave Wallet, Rabby, you name it.
Also, I think I've seen the bug you're describing - where you add a signer and it still asks for 2 more instead of recognizing that only 2 total are needed. I'll try to reproduce and catch it. Thanks for flagging that!
The interface is beautiful and website works well, everything smooth so far.
my address:
0x718cB3f68344e5FA0FE5AdbBeB764BEFF0150995
waiting for the next steps
Glad to hear it! Your contract has been created:
View ContractYou can verify its authenticity at
zen.land/verifyFeel free to accept and fulfill it at your convenience. Looking forward to your feedback!
27. Post 66525201 (unedited backup) (by internetional) (scraped on Thu Mar 19 12:45:02 CET 2026) in Aqua wallet - Bitcoin, Lightning, Liquid:
Have you tried to create an issue in github? I was going to create, but I thought that you might you want to do it yourself.
Yes, I wanted to create an issue on GitHub, but I didn't understand what "gen-l10n configuration" is, so I didn't know exactly what information was required to create the issue and resolve the problem. So I didn't write anything there.
However, it seems that fixing the issue with the Czech system language also resolved the problem with Russian. I updated the app today, and the transaction history is now displayed correctly.
28. Post 66523930 (unedited backup) (by examplens) (scraped on Thu Mar 19 00:11:13 CET 2026) in [ESCROW] Zenland V2: DAO-Governed Smart Contract Escrow | 1% Fee, $50 Max:
waiting for the next steps
You need to post your wallet address from nyknyc, so Zen.land team can create an escrow contract.
note: NYKNYC wallet is just an additional feature, the basic functionality is the zen.land platform.
29. Post 66523287 (unedited backup) (by knuckey) (scraped on Wed Mar 18 20:45:25 CET 2026) in First goal prediction and winner ($15 rewards):
First Goal Time : 22
Winner : Manchester city
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First Goal Time : 22
Winner : Manchester city
Btc Wallet or Bsc wallet : bc1qhnqygrv37wdadlcvmar767p5man98z5z6pm94h
First Goal Time : 21'
Winner : Manchester city
Btc Wallet or Bsc wallet : bc1qpcd4gxj3c8mk78c5kec5je7xpfmvdjrg588ahy
Congratulations to the winner.
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30. Post 66523041 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Wed Mar 18 19:00:25 CET 2026) in Buy every dip, and HODL!:
You can do what you like, but focusing on profits is a dumb framework for an investor. Hopefully guys can figure out how not to get trapped and/or lured into such inadequate ways of thinking about their bitcoin investment, ... but hey if that is the ONLY way that you understand, then what good is there gong to be for me to continue to repeat myself and to argue against a few members who seem like brick walls --- in regards to the inadequacy of such a profit oriented framework.
If only profit drives person to buy bitcoin then they don't mind doing dumb thing as trading before having enough stash. Thinking profits can make people to market timers and price monitorers and from that they begin to look for how to sell their bitcoin and make the profit that their mind is always on
Real investors do not mess around with those unwanted thoughts. Investors thinking is of how to ongoingly invest for a cycle and more so to build enough bitcoin stash
Life generally is about interest, so wether we are ready to have this conversation or not, it doesn't change the fact that almost all Bitcoin investors invested in it due to the potential profit they intend making in the future, or do you think people invest in Bitcoin or other assets because of anything else aside profit?
Do you know how to stop acting like a know it all and tell everyone else how they are thinking in regards to bitcoin and/or investing?
Yes bitcoin is a hedge, and your focus on profits causes you to think about it wrongly and to potentially leads you to errors in your thinking and your actions and perhaps your inabilities to think clearly..
Of course, profits is a factor since no one would invest into anything that they did not expect to at least hold its value and to have some chance of increasing in value as compared with other places that time, energy and value can be placed.. so we likely want to be putting our time, energy and value into place that we consider to be worthy, but profit still does not have to serve as a centrally driving factor as you are proclaiming the reasons for why "everyone" is doing it.. and just because it makes sense to you does not mean that everyone thinks the same as you, even though if a guy might be thinking his timeline for investing in bitcoin is 15 years or greater, then he is ongoingly buying bitcoin and thinking that chances are good that he is going to be in a better place and have more options by having had put time, energy and value into bitcoin as compared to putting such time, energy and value somewhere else, yet he still need not be driven by your simplistic ideas of profits.
It's about profit bro,
Keeping on repeating it does not cause it to become true. You think that merely because you think in a certain way, everyone else thinks the same?
Are you smarter than everyone else, and you know what they are thinking and what motivates them? You know people better than they know themselves?
but the way you decide to go about it is where the real challenges are, because going long term is the only reliable way to milk a reasonable profit from your Bitcoin investment, not by trading it for minimal gains
You think that you got it all figured out?
Are profits guaranteed in bitcoin and that is why you are investing in bitcoin because profits are guaranteed?
that would not change or impact your finances that much.
Finances, psychology and also utility. Have you thought about utility? Does something have to be profitable to provide utility?
So I don't see anything bad in talking about profit
It is a distraction, and you are being annoying by continuing to emphasize it and to repeat it when it is not helpful for an overwhelming majority of guys who are in their early stages of bitcoin accumulation.
In the earliest stages it is better to concentrate on ongoing buying of bitcoin no matter the price perhaps one to two cycles or longer, unless some of the newbies are able to front-load their investment.
because it's why we invest,
It is why you invest, and you are trying to impose your framework on others, when many of us recognize and appreciate that profits is not a central area of focus for the long term investor, and he likely loses his focus on more important matters by trying to frame his motivations in such a way. Do you want to frame self-sovereignty as profits, too?
Goals for wealth building, from your perspective, is merely about profits? Of course, the more wealth that a guy builds then the more he might hedge with one place to put time energy and value as compared with other places, and he might think in terms of percentage to place in each location.. .sure profits, might be part of his wealth preservation frame work, yet it might not be.
don't just be obsessed or be thinking about it all the time, so that you wouldn't be thinking of trading your Bitcoin for minimal gains.
Huh? At least you understand the part that thinking about profit all the time is not necessarily a good thing, but you are still being annoying in your desire to proclaim and insist that all investors are motivated by profits.
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Maybe when you've reached the stage of overaccumulation, you can consider profit taking since you have already recorded success in your investment, but any profit to be taken must not see your stash go below your target quantity.
If you have reached overaccumulation status you have a lot of options, and surely if you are striving to stay in overaccumulation status, then you would not be wanting to withdraw from your bitcoin holdings that would knock the bitcoin holdings below the rate that you are starting to withdraw from it.
So for example, if
right now, you want to withdraw $80k of dollars each year and perhaps raise the amount by 7% each year, then you probably need to have at least 15.2 BTC.Right now, if you barely have 15.2 BTC, then you might be a bit nervous to start withdrawing from your bitcoin because you would knock it below 15.2, so you would feel more comfortable to start withdrawing once you have more of a cushion. You don't have to keep stacking bitcoin to get a cushion, since if you wait a few months, then perhaps the requirement for an $80k per year income might be only 14 BTC or less. Another thing you could do is to transition into your target rate, and perhaps you start out by ONLY withdrawing $50k per year for the first 6 months or so, and then the growth of your bitcoin stash (measuring the value based on the 200-WMA), will likely continue to grow, so then you can maybe graduate up to $80k per year, and maybe over several years, you end up ONLY withdrawing around 3 bitcoin, so your stash is around 12 BTC, and so at that point 12 BTC may well support a withdrawal rate of more than $100k.. so as long as the BTC price and 200-WMA continue to go up, the amount of BTC that you need to support the same levels of income (even accounting for giving yourself a 7% raise each year), so once you get to sustainable withdrawal if you manage your holdings well, your stash will continue to get smaller while having the capability of supporting higher and higher withdrawal rates, as measured in dollars. Even though
my fuck you status chart is not up to date, you can see how the quantity of BTC needed to sustain certain quantities of income continues to go down with the passage of time.
And it is also confusing to proclaim that all investors are still motivated by profits, which is not necessarily the case.. and it is getting a bit nonsensical for guys still coming in and arguing the importance of profits blah blah blah. Are you motivated by profits in regards to your accumulation, then your maintenance and then hopefully if you get to some level of overaccumulation?
My focus not just the profits but won’t say is not among . If I’m only focusing on profits , i would have been at there finding some shitty coins to put my money in ( fortunately I’m not the kind that want to waste his resources). But when come to investing in bitcoin, it feels safe and I want to be part of such wonderful technology growth, yeah invested in bitcoin to make profit but to build something nice in it , that’s why no matter the market conditions I’m not planning to sell my holdings .
Investment will not be in existence without profit, for every user who is investing today is hoping to make profit tomorrow or in the future. Now why I feel investing in bitcoin is different is
because making profit is very certain it just now depends on how Patiece you are to make the profit. Bitcoin investment is not a just about making profit but it helps securing your future and your loved ones.
The chances of making profit are high, yes, but that doesn't mean making profit is very certain, because as unlikely as it might seem it is not completely inconceivable that the price of bitcoin could just stagnate on where it is right now without rising or falling, it might not seem like something that can happen but the possibility of it happening is very real, alot of people just assume that profit is certain and while I can't blame them for believing so since bitcoin has been very successful over the years it is still better for someone who is investing in bitcoin to know that there is still a chance that they might not make any profit, infact the price might not just stagnate but might even start dropping without ever going high again, of course the chances of this happening are much more lower than the chances of making profit since it's more likely to make profit than not but that shouldn't make us completely ignore the fact that it can still swing either way.
Of course, we prepare for a variety of possible outcomes as you have mentioned, and we also decide the amount that we are going to consume today with the money that we have versus investing it and deferring it for later, yet it is not guaranteed that the investment will pay higher than if we had merely consumed it right now.
We may well consider bitcoin as an asymmetric bet to the upside since it could end up multiplying greatly, yet at the same time, we could end up losing 100% of what we had invested. We invest because we think that the asymmetric bet is worth taking, but at the same time, we still have to choose how much we put into bitcoin versus putting into any other places that we can put our time, energy and value. Bitcoin could be considered as an insurance (or a hedge) that may or may not end up paying off... but it still serves as a hedge.
Guy who frame these matters to be "all about profits" seem to be perverting the various idea in regards to why people invest - including that there are still people who are quite wealthy and they own all kinds of assets, and they don't necessarily need anything else, yet they still might invest into bitcoin as a hedge that may or may not end up paying off... so they might be considering their investment a potential wealth preservation and an ability to have option rather than something in which they are motivated to "profit" from.
Of course, the "profit proponents" might still want to say that everything is about profits, and yeah, they are likely perverting and distracting from this thread and other forum threads that are trying to focus on both investment and the accumulation of bitcoin through ongoing and persistent buying of it... and the other techniques that many of us tend to use in regards to strengthening and maintaining good cashflow management systems/practices.
31. Post 66522520 (unedited backup) (by examplens) (scraped on Wed Mar 18 16:13:49 CET 2026) in [ESCROW] Zenland V2: DAO-Governed Smart Contract Escrow | 1% Fee, $50 Max:
thanks for inviting me examplens
I wanted to point you to this
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5576960.msg66515566#msg66515566The test is very simple, and you will see the functionality of the platform. In the end, I think you're a good candidate for an escrow agent.
They were present on the altt forum. At least I opened a discussion about them. Also, I even started a reward campaign for testing, but the forum token was discounted, so I gave up then.
Test it, I think this is a different escrow model and is most practical for short-term deals.
Although maybe in the future they could think about a solution for the problem you mentioned.
32. Post 66522031 (unedited backup) (by examplens) (scraped on Wed Mar 18 13:03:19 CET 2026) in [ESCROW] Zenland V2: DAO-Governed Smart Contract Escrow | 1% Fee, $50 Max:
Thanks for pointing this out - let me clarify how it works.
This is one of the changes we made compared to the traditional Web3 wallet flow. The page you're currently viewing is focused on gas-related activity. Since gas is abstracted in ERC-4337 wallets, we separated this view to avoid confusion.
Your actual assets are still in your wallet, but they may not be visible yet because the token hasn’t been added. You can manually add USDT to your wallet here
https://nyknyc.app/app/wallets/.
USDT Address on Ethereum
0xdac17f958d2ee523a2206206994597c13d831ec7Also, regarding the transactions page - at the moment it only shows outgoing transactions. This is intentional. On Ethereum, wallets often receive a large number of spam or irrelevant incoming transactions (including scam tokens), and displaying all of them tends to create more confusion than clarity. For that reason, we currently focus on outgoing activity.
That said, we already have in our backlog an improvement to automatically detect and display popular tokens (like USDT) once they reach your wallet, so this process will become much smoother.
OK, I found it, thanks for clarifying.
Automatic recognition of major tokens and showing them would definitely be recommended. We are so used to it that I completely forgot that there is an addition process.
btw. When sending, there is no insight into the current balance, and even the "MAX" option does not recognize or enter the maximum amount.
The field for entering the seed phrase during verification is flat with a background, there are no frames or anything similar that would indicate that there is a field for entering text. Quite difficult to recognize, in dark mode, it is even worst
I will invite @bitmover, maybe he might be interested in learning about your platform.
33. Post 66521668 (unedited backup) (by Pmalek) (scraped on Wed Mar 18 10:31:43 CET 2026) in [Table] Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos:
I think I've set it up properly (but it needs some testing). Here's how it works:
Post a Shareable link from LogPaste, like this:
My scraper picks it up in seconds, so you can delete it again shortly after posting. Note: I only use the first occurrence of "logpaste.com", so don't quote older links. I check all your posts, so it doesn't matter where you post it (but this topic is fine).
Once an hour (at 20 past the hour), I download your latest list (
http://proxyimages.bitcoindata.science/list.txt) from LogPaste, and update the images.
Let's test it and see how long it keeps working
All images look fine except Sportbet.one. But that one is also on the list I gave you. Any idea why that particular image isn't loading?
What do you suggest to do next? Leave it for now to see if and for how long the images will stay online?
34. Post 66521614 (unedited backup) (by LoyceV) (scraped on Wed Mar 18 10:07:31 CET 2026) in [Table] Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos:
I will go over all numbers myself later If I am able to make the changes without you needing to do anything.
I think I've set it up properly (but it needs some testing). Here's how it works:
Post a Shareable link from LogPaste, like this:
My scraper picks it up in seconds, so you can delete it again shortly after posting. Note: I only use the first occurrence of "logpaste.com", so don't quote older links. I check all your posts, so it doesn't matter where you post it (but this topic is fine).
Once an hour (at 20 past the hour), I download your lastest list (
http://proxyimages.bitcoindata.science/list.txt), and update the images.
Let's test it and see how long it keeps working
35. Post 66520755 (unedited backup) (by r_victory) (scraped on Wed Mar 18 00:21:55 CET 2026) in A Llção de Satoshi:
Cara esse é um dos tópicos mais legais daqui do fórum, tem conselhos valiosos e uma visão bem top sobre as coisas, ali tem ensinamentos que da pra levar para diversas áreas da nossa vida. Se não me falha a memória eu vi o @bitmover o compartilhando uma vez por aqui.
Muito obrigado pela tradução e esse tipo de texto que eu considero historico aqui no forum deve ser compartilhado com o maior numero possivel de pessoas.
O nosso querido @sabotag3x publicou a
tradução desse tópico há uns dois dias no Livecoins também.
É uma ótima reflexão e permanece atual, como se tivesse sido escrita hoje, e com certeza houve muita evolução desde que o theymos a escreveu...
36. Post 66520726 (unedited backup) (by criptoevangelista) (scraped on Wed Mar 18 00:10:13 CET 2026) in A Llção de Satoshi:
Cara esse é um dos tópicos mais legais daqui do fórum, tem conselhos valiosos e uma visão bem top sobre as coisas, ali tem ensinamentos que da pra levar para diversas áreas da nossa vida. Se não me falha a memória eu vi o @bitmover o compartilhando uma vez por aqui.
Muito obrigado pela tradução e esse tipo de texto que eu considero historico aqui no forum deve ser compartilhado com o maior numero possivel de pessoas.
37. Post 66520588 (unedited backup) (by KingsDen) (scraped on Tue Mar 17 23:24:19 CET 2026) in Question about taking time off the forum:
If I don't have anything to ask or anything to share I don't have to do anything right? I can conveniently go away for a while and come back only when I can without been punished for been active?
I can see few post about people who haven't been active or they abandoned their account or something.
No fine or ban for inactivity right?
Your activity will freeze while inactive.
However, if you make 1 or 2 post every two weeks your activity wont get freeze, and you will be able to quickly regain the activity in the inactive period.
Some explanations about how activity works
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=495948I think you someone missed Op's point.
What he was asking is that he has seen a few posts if people abandoning their accounts and maybe they are later asked to prove ownership by signing a message or so.
Maybe he didn't want that drama, he just wanted to be sure that anyone is free to take a break.
38. Post 66519578 (unedited backup) (by Spinly) (scraped on Tue Mar 17 18:52:08 CET 2026) in Spinly.io 🎰✨ - Next-gen Crypto iGaming Platform 🚀💸:
Spinly could use their designers to make a game, a retro style indie game in a videogame platform, like Steam or Google Play
Fortunately, we have some games on Spinly that you can play while you wait for your deposits or when you are free.
🎰 NEW GAMES LIVE 🎰
🍀 Luck, legends, and ancient gold. Choose your path.
1️⃣ Crack the Egg (Platipus)
-A shiny shell, a risky tap, and boom... what’s inside? Sweet surprises or a full-on jackpot hatch.
2️⃣ Clover Flames Dice (Endorphina)
-Lucky clovers meet fiery rolls. Every throw feels like a deal with fate... hot streak or bust.
3️⃣ Tut’s Treasure Tower (Pragmatic Play)
-Gold stacked high in the desert heat. Climb the tower, dodge the traps, and grab what’s yours.
🔥 Where’s your first spin landing? Trust the luck or chase the fire?
39. Post 66519340 (unedited backup) (by Pmalek) (scraped on Tue Mar 17 17:54:26 CET 2026) in [Table] Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos:
FTP with any kind of hosting would work, but let's try
LogPaste: Upload the text, then post the Shareable link.
Do you want me to upload the image links from bitcoindata.science for each casino? The same list I send to you over PM?
Like this:
https://bitcoindata.science/api/localprice.php?coin=bitcoin&amount=0.000874¤cy=USD BC.Game
40. Post 66519201 (unedited backup) (by DireWolfM14) (scraped on Tue Mar 17 17:11:31 CET 2026) in WTF is this Ballet wallet on ebay?:
I wonder why someone would buy an unknown hardware wallet with suspicious security mechanism.
It's not a hardware wallet, it a cold storage card with a private key hidden behind a security scratch-off or hologram. And they're not unknown, Ballet has been around for a quite a while and Bobby Lee, the guy running the company is a well known public figure who's been trustworthy thus far.
Still, why trust someone with your stack of coins when bitcoin makes it so easy to avoid trusting anyone other than yourself?
what the "first day of issue" thing is all about? Never have I ever seen that with a Ballet wallet before.
Probably just a marketing ploy by the seller to drum up hype. I'm not familiar enough with Ballet to know if this was "a thing" when the wallets were released. Maybe there's desirability for low low serial number. The only Ballet wallet I have is one that one from one of Kgrothmanhattan's free raffles, he's probably the best person to ask. It makes me think this thread may have been better suited in the Collectables Board.
41. Post 66518788 (unedited backup) (by sabotag3x) (scraped on Tue Mar 17 15:11:31 CET 2026) in Como vocês estão fazendo com o KYC?:
O que é muito engracado, que a maioria que procura anonimato(por mais que nao exista) no sistema bancario, nao chega nem perto do limite fiscal de isencao. Dos 35 mil reais mensais.
O problema é que uma canetada e isso já muda.. parece o famoso golpe do camelo, onde cobram R$ 5 para subir e R$ 50 para descer.
Se o Haddad falar que falta 1 trilhão para fechar as contas, ele vai começar a cobrar IOF sobre stablecoins, reduzir esse limite de R$ 35.000 para zero, e por ai vai.. não tem garantia nenhuma.. legal ver que as pessoas estão tentando se proteger de alguma forma.
O maior medo é ser doxado em algo que o valor está de público, na sei quanto a vocês… mas imagina outros saberem quanto você tem em BAtc, não gera uma insegurança?
Já isso não faz a menor sentido.
Voce vai fazer KYC pra uma empresa tipo a binance que negocia bilhões de dólares por dia. Voce negociar 10mil reais vai é queimar seu filme com os bandidos
Imagina quem comprou US$ 10.000 em Bitcoin em 2017, como você mesmo citou em outro tópico.. não era um grande valor na época, mas valorizou tanto que hoje vale um sequestro.
Dá uma olhada nesse vazamento, por exemplo:
‼️🇧🇷 Um agente malicioso estaria vendendo acesso completo a um painel de investigação da Polícia Civil do Estado de São Paulo e ao e-mail institucional da Polícia Civil do Estado de São Paulo.
O acesso supostamente inclui uma VPN interna, um e-mail funcional no endereço
http://policiacivil.sp.gov.br, um sistema de bypass e
um painel de investigação completo com consultas a registros da Receita Federal, informações sobre veículos (DETRAN/RENAVAM), dados de transações PIX, antecedentes criminais, processos judiciais, carteiras de habilitação e bancos de dados integrados de inteligência criminal (SINESP, INFOSEG).O agente malicioso observa que o e-mail institucional também é usado para comunicações policiais.
Tem basicamente sua foto, endereço e quanto você declarou em criptomoedas.
42. Post 66518524 (unedited backup) (by aoluain) (scraped on Tue Mar 17 13:40:55 CET 2026) in When is the next bitcoin?:
There's no such thing as the next Bitcoin. Bitcoin is just Bitcoin, and that's it. Even if another digital asset emerges after it, it will still just be another asset that might have characteristics that make it good and popular. But right now, I can say that no other digital asset can compete with Bitcoin --- because Bitcoin isn't just another digital asset, it's decentralized and has no centralized entity, which makes it trustworthy and reliable.
I think OP wants" another bitcoin" just to make money.
and you know there is nothing holding him back, he can go ahead and create a new Bitcoin...
just like the thousands who have tried - and failed, they are all listed on coinmarketcap.
How exactly does he propose in a way to move everyone using Bitcoin now to a "new" version?
Bitcoin is proven, a new version is not
Every other $hitcoin has tried and failed and set the stage for any more "editions".
Anyone trying to create a new Bitcoin would have to at least create a superior code, convince
as many people to adopt it and would have to be prepared to disappear and relinquish
all their coin holdings, just like Satoshi did. Thats the minimum!
