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1. Post 66966039 (unedited backup) (by Bitcoin_Arena) (scraped on Wed Jul 22 01:50:19 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 04:58:05 PM
I think the company is great. It already changed space exploration possibilities.

The problem is the current price compares to its rrevenue.you might hold a lot of time in red or with bad returns entering now.
China is trying as much as possible to bridge the gaps, though, and I believe in a few years we shall have competitors left and right just like we have seen in the EV industry, so yeah, we are probably going to be in the red for a while as well, and the price growth rate may not be the one that was expected before competition came into play.



2. Post 66965952 (unedited backup) (by tabas) (scraped on Wed Jul 22 01:13:38 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 04:58:05 PM
I think the company is great. It already changed space exploration possibilities.

The problem is the current price compares to its rrevenue.you might hold a lot of time in red or with bad returns entering now.
Many of the buyers during the launch probably took their cash and profit with them and so the market reacted. If I'll buy this right now, I won't look at the charts maybe for a year or two. We'll see if it's a good long term stock to hold but I agree, holders has to take those red months with them and get over that until its price rises up. At what price do you plan to enter? Right now it's at $123.



3. Post 66965492 (unedited backup) (by Cricktor) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 22:41:49 CEST 2026) in 2.62x BTC dumped to legacy address of Genesis block:

It's been a while, little more than three months, but today three transactions surpassed the minimum qualification amount to be listed. Not just barely but with some "generosity", haha, no judgement. Quite obviously the sender(s) can afford it, assuming due to the same amount being dumped to Genesis block, it might be the same entity.


Past March 14th, 2025 largeequal/over 500k sats transfers to Genesis block descriptor:
Amount in BTC
   
Confirmed (UTC)
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   2026-07-21 04:58:13   ff0c039628c8170cabe9761e23d13676fb9e292436e6cef1bb5796837bcfab37
0.01810000
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0.01810000
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0.00534973
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0.00700000
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Current balance at time of this post according to combo(PubKey of Genesis block's coinbase) descriptor, including the unspendable 50BTC of coinbase tx: 107.29631839BTC (no pending sats waiting for confirmation, the difference (0.10767775BTC) to previous post's value and newcomer transaction are smaller dust wastes and often a few larger ones that just don't make it into the table).

This may differ slightly from what mempool.space or bitcoindata.science displays because the combo() descriptorsee below accounts for all address types (except Taproot, IIRC).
Code:
combo(04678afdb0fe5548271967f1a67130b7105cd6a828e03909a67962e0ea1f61deb649f6bc3f4cef38c4f35504e51ec112de5c384df7ba0b8d578a4c702b6bf11d5f)#gvgcz9wt



4. Post 66965027 (unedited backup) (by 2stout) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 20:24:08 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:

Quote from: OgNasty on Today at 03:20:28 PM
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I didn't start buying yet, but I plan to do so.


The price is just below $120, now is the time.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SPCX/

I don't believe now is the time as the price still has not found its bottom yet; it will go lower.  Things are different now with this being a public company.  When it was private, there were looser timelines regarding revenue.  However, now being beholden to shareholders, the revenue timelines will be tighter with quarter to quarter expectations.  Also, this may need to be reigned in sooner than later- the SpaceX Starship has been launched 12 times, with 7 successes and 5 failures, which is a 58.3% success rate.

I don’t think there have been any Starship failures. Lessons were learned and improvements were made with each launch. It continues to advance and we will see a demonstration of those advancements this week. In a few months we will see them catch the booster and Starship. By the end of next year I am sure we will see Starship land equipment on the moon. Within a decade, Mars. I want to be a part of that. I bought more today.

There have indeed been failures.  What you may think vs the facts are 2 different things:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Starship_launches

As there are reasons for optimism, there are also fair reasons for skepticism.



5. Post 66965022 (unedited backup) (by Unknown Op) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 20:21:25 CEST 2026) in Pakistan:

Quote from: qurbanshah02 on Today at 08:31:12 AM
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Quote from: shahzadafzal on July 16, 2026, 09:32:37 PM
1st Prize  - Raffle block # 958501
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6. Post 66964960 (unedited backup) (by sabotag3x) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 20:02:43 CEST 2026) in Eleições presidenciais 2026 na Polymarket/Kalshi:

Quote from: bitmover on July 20, 2026, 12:42:49 PM
Renan

Ontem assisti a uma conversa dele com o carinha lá do Tropa de Elite.. naturalmente, focaram bastante em segurança e RJ.

Aqui o link, caso alguém tenha interesse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8aiHsPfTDE

Assim como é a minha opinião sobre os outros políticos, eu duvido que ele conseguirá implementar as coisas que fala.

Quote from: Forsyth Jones on Today at 04:00:46 PM
aí o lula pegou uma economia pronta pra decolar em 2002, surfou a onda sem fazer muita merda na economia e ficou praticamente com todo o crédito.

Pelo que vejo em retrospecto, a sorte do Brasil é que o Lula não fez nada do que prometeu nos seus primeiros mandatos.. às vezes o segredo é esse, não fazer nada.. porque a econômia cresce naturalmente.

Sobre o Real.. e mais recentemente o Pix.. parece que essa é maior a diferença do Brasil para outros países latinos como Argentina, Venezuela, Bolívia, etc. que também foram destruídos pela esquerda.



7. Post 66964832 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 19:26:01 CEST 2026) in O que todo mundo sabe sobre o lançamento do Bitcoin está errado:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 10:24:35 AM

Tudo que existe é o Hash160 embutido no endereço. Que ira gerar uma public Key, e nao uma Private key. Mas esse passo para gerar a public key é extremamente custoso, e se ele for quebrado pra um endereco pode ser para qualquer outro.


Felizmente nada indica que isso venha a ser possível. Mas se vier a ser, certamente haverá solução para os titulares vivos dos endereços.

Até lá podemos dormir descansados.  Wink



8. Post 66964428 (unedited backup) (by OgNasty) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 17:20:31 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:

Quote from: 2stout on Today at 02:33:38 PM
[

I didn't start buying yet, but I plan to do so.


The price is just below $120, now is the time.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SPCX/

I don't believe now is the time as the price still has not found its bottom yet; it will go lower.  Things are different now with this being a public company.  When it was private, there were looser timelines regarding revenue.  However, now being beholden to shareholders, the revenue timelines will be tighter with quarter to quarter expectations.  Also, this may need to be reigned in sooner than later- the SpaceX Starship has been launched 12 times, with 7 successes and 5 failures, which is a 58.3% success rate.

I don’t think there have been any Starship failures. Lessons were learned and improvements were made with each launch. It continues to advance and we will see a demonstration of those advancements this week. In a few months we will see them catch the booster and Starship. By the end of next year I am sure we will see Starship land equipment on the moon. Within a decade, Mars. I want to be a part of that. I bought more today.



9. Post 66964275 (unedited backup) (by 2stout) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 16:33:43 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:

Quote from: WillyAp on Today at 01:30:13 PM
[

I didn't start buying yet, but I plan to do so.


The price is just below $120, now is the time.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SPCX/

I don't believe now is the time as the price still has not found its bottom yet; it will go lower.  Things are different now with this being a public company.  When it was private, there were looser timelines regarding revenue.  However, now being beholden to shareholders, the revenue timelines will be tighter with quarter to quarter expectations.  Also, this may need to be reigned in sooner than later- the SpaceX Starship has been launched 12 times, with 7 successes and 5 failures, which is a 58.3% success rate.



10. Post 66964057 (unedited backup) (by WillyAp) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 15:30:13 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 02:44:27 AM
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I didn't start buying yet, but I plan to do so.


The price is just below $120, now it is the time.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SPCX/



11. Post 66963819 (unedited backup) (by Pumared) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 14:17:38 CEST 2026) in Eleições presidenciais 2026 na Polymarket/Kalshi:

Quote from: bitmover on July 20, 2026, 12:42:49 PM
Essas eleições no Brasil são as piores de todos os tempos, na minha opinião. Eu não sei qual que é o menos pior. Todos esses candidatos aí que estão no páreo são todos horríveis. Nós estamos é ferrados na mão desse povo. Infelizmente, o brasileiro vai ter mais quatro ou oito anos de sofrimento. Tá complicado. Realmente, a classe política brasileira é a mais desprezível do planeta Terra.

Eu tenho uma opinião diferente. Acho que os candidatos são bons, os piores são os 2 favoritos. O Lula acho que representa bem a esquerda caviar brasileira, e acho que boa parte dos eleitores acham ele um bom nome.

Os demais, são excelentes, nunca tivemos um nivel tão alto. Caiado, Renan e Zema, todos são bons. Uma pena que eles não se juntaram e tem propostas razoavelmente parecidas...

Concordo. Se eles não estivessem tão pulverizados teríamos mais certeza de que o centro-direita levaria. Acho que a essa altura, jogar para o centrão é melhor do que permanecer com o atual presidente.



12. Post 66963806 (unedited backup) (by BlackHatCoiner) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 14:11:01 CEST 2026) in Why did AI pass Bitcoin in energy spending?:

Quote from: bitmover on July 19, 2026, 07:20:05 PM
The integration with the AI is way better than in Vscode.
I can't imagine how more integrated it goes. In VSCode there is already a Claude tab, next to the file sources which you can talk with the AI. There is also the terminal which is way better, IMO.

Quote
But you need a paid plan to use it. It reads all your files and , build docker and test the software,  etc
Claude Code in VSCode terminal already does that. You can literally run Claude with --dangerously-skip-permissions and it takes access to the entire system, starts running apps, etc., as if I command a developer. 

Quote
Do you use vscode with a claude subscription?
Yes.



13. Post 66962707 (unedited backup) (by sabotag3x) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 05:13:37 CEST 2026) in O que todo mundo sabe sobre o lançamento do Bitcoin está errado:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 12:25:13 AM
Todo endereco tem chave privada e chave publica

A diferenca é que o endereco de queima tem uma chave privada que ninguém conhece.

Dá uma olhada nesse caso no Ethereum:

Code: (chave privada)
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Code: (endereço)
0x3f17f1962B36e491b30A40b2405849e597Ba5FB5

Saldo: US$ 30k.. mais o que tem nas outras redes..

O que quis dizer é que a chave privada correspondente pode ser inválida.. não sei se isso existe no Bitcoin.



14. Post 66962458 (unedited backup) (by alegotardo) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 01:25:07 CEST 2026) in O que todo mundo sabe sobre o lançamento do Bitcoin está errado:

Quote from: joker_josue on Today at 05:20:04 PM

A computação quântica só pode tentar encontrar chaves de endereços em que a chave pública foi exposta, ou seja, aqueles que já gastaram moedas pelo menos uma vez.

Como ninguem tem a chave privada de endereços de queima, eles nunca podem ser quebrados por computação quântica.

Isso é com aquilo que se sabe hoje, sobre o assunto.

Agora, a computação quântica vai continuar a evoluir, principalmente quando já estiver mais operacional, para não falar da ajuda de IA.
Por isso, não sabemos se esses endereços de queima um dia não fiquem expostos ataques da computação quântica.

É tem isso, mas convenhamos que quebrar o algoritmo de Grover e sua "proteção quadrática" é muito mais HARD do que quebrar o algoritmo Shor.
Mas enfim, sem discutir termos técnicos, eu apoio o joker com outro pensamento....
Mesmo que você não gastar as moedas agora, em um momento tu vai querer fazer isso né, e asism que tu gastar a chave pública aparece na assinatura, então qual a tua chance de um hacker quântico suficientemente rápido ser mais rápido que você, extrair a chave privada e transmitir com um transação concorrente antes da sua confirmar? Ao que tudo indica a migração será "soft-core", então quem não migrar antes vai ficar correndo esse risco.



15. Post 66962455 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 01:23:13 CEST 2026) in O que todo mundo sabe sobre o lançamento do Bitcoin está errado:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 06:53:43 PM
Se eles estiverem expostos significa que todos os enderecos estariam expostos.
Serie literalmente o fim do bitcoin .

Não propriamente.

Já hoje se fala na criação de uma gama de endereços, preparados para resistir a computação quântica.

Caberá depois a cada titular, mover as suas moedas para essa gama de endereços.



16. Post 66962221 (unedited backup) (by Agathamay) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 23:55:01 CEST 2026) in 💰 $200 Prize Pool - 🎟️ Free Raffle || 24Casino.Com:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 01:00:33 PM

I tired to register on the 24casino.com website but it seems it not available on my region
Maybe that's the reason a lot people haven't participated


I tried to login using a google account and it immediately asked for a phone number
On the area of the phone number, I used a random number as suggested by op and it worked for me but I hope this wouldn't also be an issue when someone wins and tries to withdraw their winnings and I hope it gets fixed as soon as possible



17. Post 66961276 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 19:20:07 CEST 2026) in O que todo mundo sabe sobre o lançamento do Bitcoin está errado:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 01:18:53 PM

A computação quântica só pode tentar encontrar chaves de endereços em que a chave pública foi exposta, ou seja, aqueles que já gastaram moedas pelo menos uma vez.

Como ninguem tem a chave privada de endereços de queima, eles nunca podem ser quebrados por computação quântica.

Isso é com aquilo que se sabe hoje, sobre o assunto.

Agora, a computação quântica vai continuar a evoluir, principalmente quando já estiver mais operacional, para não falar da ajuda de IA.
Por isso, não sabemos se esses endereços de queima um dia não fiquem expostos ataques da computação quântica.



18. Post 66961058 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 18:22:49 CEST 2026) in What to do to eliminate fear and starts investing in Bitcoin :

Quote from: dzonikg28 on July 13, 2026, 08:06:37 PM
[edited out]
I have come across a lot of interesting posts regarding the topics you guys are touching upon and there are two specific questions I have.

The first question is, why do quite a few people still think that the 4 year cycle is so relevant? If it was, wouldn't the market react to patterns and adjust their actions accordingly, which would lead to a far more scattered pattern that doesn't allow for a simple exploitation of a strict pattern anymore? Assume that I know the market has at quite specific time windows acted in certain ways in the past, it would only be logical for me to adjust my actions and act either earlier or later, depending on whatever is favorable. Over time everyone would do that and how could the 4 year cycle still have significant effects when more and more people know that it makes more sense to not strictly stick to it? I would always try to buy before the masses buy because they drive up the price, and I would always try to sell before the masses sell. Since there are very strict patterns as suggested in many posts on bitcointalk, it should be possible for many marktet participants to be a little smarter than most others. And the more often one person tries to outsmart the others, the more this pattern loses meaning, or am I getting that wrong?

If these adjustments happen over many years, can there still be talk of a 4 year cycle? If I know there is a block halving coming and I know that buys became much stronger in the past three months before the halving, I will start buying four months before the halving. This was just put in simple terms, but you know what I mean I think. If I do it four months before and more market participants do it, it would be smart in the future to start buying five months or six months in advance.

The second question is, if an AI software was able to generate an alpha and if that AI software gets a million requests per day, how can there still be an alpha? Or a significant alpha? Since the more buyers or sellers get the same recommendation, there is less alpha left for everyone. It would have to adjust the strategy, give a new recommendation and give that to people so long that they still can benefit from it, then change the strategy again.

I understand that maybe some people got lucky with an AI advice from ChatGPT, but since everyone has access to those programs, the potential for significant alpha to be taken opportunity of is reduced with every single request from users.

The big companies use software all the time and that makes sense and they may have their own specified inputs, gathered information over time that they deem more valuable, but now that everyone has access to real time processing information, it's not like the whole world can win in times of stagnant markets. In that situation it must be a zero sum game that some can luckily win due to leveraged positions or other techniques.

You have been registered here about as long as me dzonikg28, and if you have been fucking around trying to trade for the past 12.5 years, then maybe you are still like a lost little puppy.



You don't need to try to trade 4-year cycles in order to still profit from them, since in bitcoin, the longer that you been in bitcoin and erroring on the side of accumulation and hold, then the more likely that you have been prosperous in your focus on investing rather than fucking around trying to trade, and yeah, guys think that they are more sophisticated players if they are trying to trade the 4 year cycle, and perhaps some guys have gotten lucky trying to trade the 4 year cycle, yet the mere luck of some guys should not justify that it is a good thing to be fucking around trying to trade the 4 year cycle.

My own personal ideas relate to accumulating a sufficiently large enough stash that you can figure out that you have enough bitcoin or more than enough bitcoin, then once you get to enough or more than enough bitcoin, then you likely have more freedom to sell some of it.. by using price-based and/or time based sustainable withdrawal.

Even if you had started buying $50 per week in bitcoin in January 2014, you would have invested $2,600 per year and then invested just over $30k over the past 12.5 years to have had accumulated right around 17.52 BTC, which seems difficult to presume that you would have had needed to get better returns than that.

Of course, my own story is a bit different since I started to use my own version of price based sustainable withdrawal towards the middle/end of 2015, even though I had to hone (and tailorize) my own systems/practices, yet it seems to me that right now, even
with time-based sustainable withdrawal, a guy with 17.52 BTC could have a sustainable withdrawal rate of right around $7,825 per month
, which would be about $94k per year, and I am pretty sure that the guy can give himself a 7% cost of living adjustment raise in the dollar amount each year, which would be a pretty damned good investment for having had merely put in $30k over the past 12.5 years.

Accordingly, given my own above description, I have difficulties seeing how someone fucking around with trading would have had done better than the guy who had focused mostly on buying and accumulating of bitcoin.

Of course, at the same time, past results do not guarantee future results, even though I personally continue to advocate staying focused on buying and accumulating and don't get overly distracted by 4 year cycles, even though so far they continue to seem to exist and to have affects on upward and downward periods in the bitcoin spot price market, yet at the same time, there seems to be quite a bit of advantage to build up a guy's bitcoin stash through focusing on ongoing buying, and ongoing buying seems to help to build the bitcoin stash since since we can never have a lot of confidence in regards to bitcoin price direction, even if a bitcoin 4 year cycle continues to seem to exist.....  and then once his bitcoin stash gets larger then he might be able to start to employ selling to either maintain his stash or to start to sustainably withdrawal through price-based and/or time-based sustainable withdrawal methods, perhaps similar to the ones that I talk about in my thread on the sustainable withdrawal topic

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on July 14, 2026, 07:02:35 AM
[edited out]
You sounded manipulative here, and actually constructed your response in the opposite of what I wrote.
Regardless, I stand by what I said, and to summarise/rephrase what I wrote to the OP:

1a. Learn Bitcoin online to allow you focus in gaining understanding, instead of random replies.
1b. Use Gemini/ChatGPT to point you to the right links and articles that will help your learning.
2. Plan your investment around the Bitcoin's 4-year cycle.

I don't think I see where Trading comes in play in that, and neither did I see where Gemini/ChatGPT is giving the direct instructions and investment advice.

I stick with what I said also.  You seem to have difficulties recognizing how there is no real need for investors to incorporate trading into their investing practices. 

If guys have goals to accumulate bitcoin then selling bitcoin in order to accumulate bitcoin does not make a lot of sense, even though you are free to do what you like, even though you likely contribute to a lot of confusion when you ongoingly fail/refuse to distinguish trading from investing... and there are many ways that vague proclamations about the benefits of Gemini/ChatGPT is going to end up helping guys to distinguish between investing and trading if they are coming at it with a problematic framework and a confused mind.

By the way, I am a pretty big fan of AI systems too, when it comes to learning certain topics, yet there are needs to both put in good prompts and to guide it into areas in ways that help to clarify confusion and even to sort through topics, so there could be ways that guys end up developing their own ideas about how to deploy investing versus trading, even though there surely continue to be a lot of ways that they can both become confused and distracted into trading and crypto rather than focusing on investing in bitcoin, which will end up causing them to lose money rather than to be ongoingly building their bitcoin stash and strengthening their cashflow management systems/practices. 

For sure, many of us recognize and appreciate that if we are able to increase our discretionary income, then we will tend to have more money to work with in order to be able to invest, save and/or discretionarily consume, and surely it could be possible that AI could also be helpful for guys to figure out ways to increase their discretionary income by increasing their income and/or decreasing some of their expenses.

Whether guys utilize AI in their brain storming of ideas or not, building wealth tends to take a long time, even though surely many of us likely get tempted into wanting to take short-cuts and to try to get rich quick, which may well lead us into engaging in activities that might not be to our longer term advantage, even though they might appear to have decently good chances of paying off in the short-term.

Quote from: Bigjoe33 on July 17, 2026, 01:15:32 PM
[edited out]
Secondly, I don't think planning your investment within the 4-years circle is good enough for an intending love term HODLer. We can't predict the market as we know, meaning that there is no assurance that a 4-years HODLing period will yield anything tangible due to its volatility. Thus, the best is to just set a long term target while remaining consistent in the market as you buy gradually with your Discretionary income.

EarnOnVictor is not suggesting that guys invest in bitcoin for ONLY 4 years, but instead he is suggesting that guys try to play the waves of the 4-year cycle, since he seems to believe that playing the 4-year wave is an "easy way" to make more money as compared with guys who merely ongoingly buy bitcoin.  In other words, EarnOnVictor, continues to make a lot of assumptions that guys can figure out when to sell and to buy back...and also when to slow down in their buying (presumptively at the top) and to slow down in their selling (presumptively at the bottom).  He believes that there are techniques (and learnings) to be able to identify where the BTC price is going before it happens.. so that guys can supposedly make more money by following a trading technique as compared with following strict buying only techniques.

Quote from: suhadi88 on July 18, 2026, 04:37:41 AM
After making this kind of decision just make sure you maintain your consistency and also persistently in accumulating your Bitcoin and also have in mind that you are an investor not a trader. Holding your Bitcoin for as long as you can but it shouldn't be less than four years because if it is less than four years you will be considered as a trader. It should be minimum of 8+ years.
If possible, it could be more than 8 years, as you mentioned above. Yes, maintaining consistency requires constantly seeking passive income so the balance can continue to grow. For example, we usually pay $50 in installments in an accumulation plan. With additional income, it can increase to at least $60. That's quite a lot, isn't it? Simple, but it works.

For many guys it is going to be more than 8 years to really build a decently good bitcoin stash size, and yeah, it is likely good to increase the amount of bitcoin that you are buying weekly, if your discretionary income goes up.

If you are trying to figure out how much time it is going to take you, then you likely have to look at how much of your income you are putting in. If you are putting in 10% of your income, then it is going to take you nearly 10 years to put in a year's worth of your income, and so guys who are able to put higher percentages of their income, they are going to get to a point of reaching enough or more than enough sooner, yet even if they have enough or more than enough, they still might not transition into being able to sell until after going through a maintenance phase that might be 2-4 years or more.

You are in the best place to figure out both the amounts that you are able to put into bitcoin and also how long you expect that the amount that you put in is going to add up to significantly large amounts, depending on what the bitcoin price ends up doing in the next 4-10 years or longer.

Quote from: Cgrexp on Today at 01:51:42 PM
One ofthe things that make new investors to lack confidence in Bitcoin investment is that they lack the basic understanding of what Bitcoin is all about and for sure Bitcoin to them is an escape route to poverty and other financial challenges, Bitcoin to them have the ability to make them rich quick, but in the end when the reality with Bitcoin happens, they will begin to play the blame game and not accepting they own fault of not studying Bitcoin and understand the market volitilities around Bitcoin.
Not knowing about Bitcoin or its volatility can lead to a lack of confidence in investing. Many people think that Bitcoin is a way to make money and its price will only increase. However, those who know do not just expect to make a profit, they know how volatile it is and how much expectation is realistic. Therefore, those who trade Bitcoin thinking it is a way to make money end up losing money and end up blaming Bitcoin, even though they are responsible for their own decisions. Therefore, one should have realistic expectations and ideas when investing, otherwise the investor himself will be responsible for unrealistic expectations.

Ongoingly we should be reminded that our attempts should be to try to control what we are able to control and to not get worked up about the parts that we are not able to control.  So we are able to choose our levels of aggressiveness in regards to how much bitcoin we buy and how regularly we buy bitcoin, and we are also able to control the extent to which we strengthen our cashflow management practices in terms of how much we choose to put into savings (back up funds) and/or discretionary consumption.

And, yeah, from time to time, we are likely going to have to make adjustments based on our own 9 personal factors, so it is likely good if we are striving to stay aware and to make adjustments to our own personal factors.



19. Post 66960436 (unedited backup) (by Kryptowerk) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 15:43:01 CEST 2026) in DEX.fo — Automatic Crypto Exchange | No KYC/AML | BTC ETH XMR LTC DAI USDT | :

Quote from: DEX.fo_off on Today at 07:23:10 AM

@Peanutswar

Thanks for wrapping up the previous contest and launching the next one. 🎯 Consistent activity is what keeps the thread alive.


@bitmover

Exactly right — the CEX withdrawal scenario is the one situation where the refund field genuinely matters. Most experienced users like yourself know to fill it in for exactly that case. Making it optional was the right call for the majority, but the safety net stays available for the edge cases where it counts.


@AmnesiaHaze

Thanks for the test report. Quick clarification though — USDT (BEP20) isn't currently on our supported list. Our current USDT support is ERC-20 and TRC-20 only. If your swap went through a bridge or router that converted BEP20 to a supported network on the way in, that would explain the experience — but that's third-party handling, not our native support.

BEP20 support is on the roadmap along with the broader BSC/BNB integration coming after Solana. When it's live, you'll see it directly in the selector.

Could you double-check which network you used? Want to make sure there's no confusion about supported assets.


@GreatArkansas

Sorry to hear about the delay. Please reach out via SimpleX support directly with your Order ID (8f3xzz001) — the support team can look at the specific order and see what's holding it. Public thread isn't the fastest channel for individual case resolution.

If for some reason you can't reach SimpleX support, let us know and we'll help route it. We don't want any user stuck without a resolution.


@hosemary

Both suggestions are solid.

On Arabic — the Middle East interest in crypto (especially UAE and Saudi retail flows) is real and growing, and coverage there would be meaningful. Adding it to the language priority queue.

On the FAQ page needing an update to reflect recent changes and adding a "recent changes" section — 100% agreed, that's on the near-term list. The refund address update alone requires FAQ correction (as noted earlier by another user), and grouping recent changes helps returning users catch up without re-reading everything.


@MarryWithBTC

Compact FAQ in the OP itself — that's the natural next step. This thread has generated more actual useful Q&A content than any FAQ we could write from scratch. Distilling it into a proper OP section is a much better source than starting from zero.

On Portuguese — good addition to the list. Brazilian no-KYC demand is significant and growing, and Portuguese also covers a broader Portuguese-speaking market (Portugal, Angola, Mozambique). Noted alongside Arabic.


@Ultegra134

Thanks — noting the effort on the German translation means a lot. We deliberately went with human translators rather than machine output for exactly the reason you mentioned. Non-native quality shows immediately in a financial interface and undermines trust in a way no cost-saving justifies.


@xtraelv

Welcome to the thread and appreciate the observation. Consistent engagement with the forum after the initial launch is one of the things we specifically decided to prioritize — because you're right, "post, disappear, occasionally reappear" is unfortunately the norm in this space.

On the FAQ — you and others are pointing at the same real problem. New users shouldn't need to trawl through 20 pages to find answers already given. That's on us to consolidate. Working on it.


@Kryptowerk

Fair — SimpleX setup is one of those things that's simple once you know how, but opaque if you're seeing it for the first time. A short "how to reach our support in 3 steps" guide (with the SimpleX link, how to open it, and what to expect) would help new users considerably. Adding to the near-term content list.


@pooya87

That's a clean solution — one contextual warning line handles the CEX edge case without pushing extra friction on users depositing from self-custody. We'll implement that as part of the refund field UI update we're preparing:

"If depositing from a centralized exchange (Binance, Coinbase, etc.), we strongly recommend providing a refund address."

Simple. Direct. Solves the actual problem. Thanks for the practical framing.



DEX.fo — No KYC. No AML. No registration.





wtf, why are you tagging me? I have a suspicion and it doesn't look good for a "No KYC" exchange. (NO, I never used their service and most likely never will)

Explain yourself, and better without AI written bullshit.
I have my hand on the trigger for negative trust here.
Good luck.



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Quote from: God Of Thunder on Today at 12:01:59 PM
Bump

Friendly mention of who participated in my other raffles.
If it asks for mobile verification, just provide a random number.

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21. Post 66960125 (unedited backup) (by God Of Thunder) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 14:02:01 CEST 2026) in 💰 $200 Prize Pool - 🎟️ Free Raffle || 24Casino.Com:

Bump

Friendly mention of who participated in my other raffles.
If it asks for mobile verification, just provide a random number.

Code:
dzonikg28
ibuddy122505
m2017
Barcode_
mv1986
bitmover
Itz-prisigold
Pandorak
cumakoff
Ricardo11
IIrik11
Ninja Primes
f150
Warkop
MisFoxie
Agathamay
UserU
Improved
bitzizzix
inearth
RTX-G53
Obim34
Yoona_As
rbynxx
Dump3er
Mehmet69
slapper
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22. Post 66960112 (unedited backup) (by God Of Thunder) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 13:56:01 CEST 2026) in Bitz.io || Free Raffle 🎟️ – $65 Prize Pool 💰:

Quote from: God Of Thunder on July 19, 2026, 10:19:34 AM
Winner:
17 - Warkop

Winner 2:
15 - f150

Winner 3:
33 - Yoona_As

Verify here

Please DM me the Bitz.io Bitcoin deposit address.

All paid, Should be credited within a few minutes.



23. Post 66959631 (unedited backup) (by Pmalek) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 09:57:31 CEST 2026) in DEX.fo — Automatic Crypto Exchange | No KYC/AML | BTC ETH XMR LTC DAI USDT | :

Quote from: DEX.fo_off on Today at 07:23:10 AM
@bitmover

Exactly right — the CEX withdrawal scenario is the one situation where the refund field genuinely matters. Most experienced users like yourself know to fill it in for exactly that case. Making it optional was the right call for the majority, but the safety net stays available for the edge cases where it counts.
Maybe you can emphasize this further in the text written under "Refund address." Add another sentence where you highly recommend that users depositing from a custodial service double check the refund address and even enter one belonging to a wallet they control or enter an address copied directly from their exchange account.

You should also consider a new entry under Q&A, explaining the best way to deposit from CEXs and custodial platforms with a return address entered.



24. Post 66959567 (unedited backup) (by DEX.fo_off) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 09:23:13 CEST 2026) in DEX.fo — Automatic Crypto Exchange | No KYC/AML | BTC ETH XMR LTC DAI USDT | :


@Peanutswar

Thanks for wrapping up the previous contest and launching the next one. 🎯 Consistent activity is what keeps the thread alive.


@bitmover

Exactly right — the CEX withdrawal scenario is the one situation where the refund field genuinely matters. Most experienced users like yourself know to fill it in for exactly that case. Making it optional was the right call for the majority, but the safety net stays available for the edge cases where it counts.


@AmnesiaHaze

Thanks for the test report. Quick clarification though — USDT (BEP20) isn't currently on our supported list. Our current USDT support is ERC-20 and TRC-20 only. If your swap went through a bridge or router that converted BEP20 to a supported network on the way in, that would explain the experience — but that's third-party handling, not our native support.

BEP20 support is on the roadmap along with the broader BSC/BNB integration coming after Solana. When it's live, you'll see it directly in the selector.

Could you double-check which network you used? Want to make sure there's no confusion about supported assets.


@GreatArkansas

Sorry to hear about the delay. Please reach out via SimpleX support directly with your Order ID (8f3xzz001) — the support team can look at the specific order and see what's holding it. Public thread isn't the fastest channel for individual case resolution.

If for some reason you can't reach SimpleX support, let us know and we'll help route it. We don't want any user stuck without a resolution.


@hosemary

Both suggestions are solid.

On Arabic — the Middle East interest in crypto (especially UAE and Saudi retail flows) is real and growing, and coverage there would be meaningful. Adding it to the language priority queue.

On the FAQ page needing an update to reflect recent changes and adding a "recent changes" section — 100% agreed, that's on the near-term list. The refund address update alone requires FAQ correction (as noted earlier by another user), and grouping recent changes helps returning users catch up without re-reading everything.


@MarryWithBTC

Compact FAQ in the OP itself — that's the natural next step. This thread has generated more actual useful Q&A content than any FAQ we could write from scratch. Distilling it into a proper OP section is a much better source than starting from zero.

On Portuguese — good addition to the list. Brazilian no-KYC demand is significant and growing, and Portuguese also covers a broader Portuguese-speaking market (Portugal, Angola, Mozambique). Noted alongside Arabic.


@Ultegra134

Thanks — noting the effort on the German translation means a lot. We deliberately went with human translators rather than machine output for exactly the reason you mentioned. Non-native quality shows immediately in a financial interface and undermines trust in a way no cost-saving justifies.


@xtraelv

Welcome to the thread and appreciate the observation. Consistent engagement with the forum after the initial launch is one of the things we specifically decided to prioritize — because you're right, "post, disappear, occasionally reappear" is unfortunately the norm in this space.

On the FAQ — you and others are pointing at the same real problem. New users shouldn't need to trawl through 20 pages to find answers already given. That's on us to consolidate. Working on it.


@Kryptowerk

Fair — SimpleX setup is one of those things that's simple once you know how, but opaque if you're seeing it for the first time. A short "how to reach our support in 3 steps" guide (with the SimpleX link, how to open it, and what to expect) would help new users considerably. Adding to the near-term content list.


@pooya87

That's a clean solution — one contextual warning line handles the CEX edge case without pushing extra friction on users depositing from self-custody. We'll implement that as part of the refund field UI update we're preparing:

"If depositing from a centralized exchange (Binance, Coinbase, etc.), we strongly recommend providing a refund address."

Simple. Direct. Solves the actual problem. Thanks for the practical framing.



DEX.fo — No KYC. No AML. No registration.






25. Post 66959280 (unedited backup) (by JeffBrad12) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 04:43:07 CEST 2026) in Why did AI pass Bitcoin in energy spending?:

Quote from: bitmover on July 19, 2026, 05:52:26 PM
I'm afraid to tell you that I agree with bitmover. Yes, the AI is terrible for your privacy at every measurable level, but the market is an eternal competition, and you stand very little chance without the AI in the next age. Whatever your job is, another person who has the same expertise as you, but outsources a big portion of the work to the AI gains so much time and energy to do other tasks that you don't.

And the models are becoming much better now than 6 months ago. Their evolution is exponential

I have Google AI Pro, which allows me to use Antigravity suite. I am really impressed.
It has Anthropic sonet and gemini integrated. it is really amazing what those models are doing now.

But you need patience to learn how to use and to write good prompts.

I am not even using vscode anymore  , just antigravity IDE.
Gemini hallucinates a lot and anthropic claude sonnet is bottom tier of AI. Antigravity is forked vscode with proprietary bloatware, you better off installing claude or codex extension on vscode.
Although I agree with your statement about AI saving a lot of times to get the work done, I tried creating a trading bot and it's done in about 1 hour which probably going to take me whole week to create the bare minimum MVP. Try Fable 5 or GPT 5.6 sol you'd be astounded.

Back to the topic, AI didn't really pass in energy spending, there are tons of complaint filed from the state and the people living around data center. AI is literally being hated everywhere tho.



26. Post 66958572 (unedited backup) (by Hamza2424) (scraped on Sun Jul 19 23:19:08 CEST 2026) in Inflation the biggest problem of modern the era.:

Quote from: bitmover on July 14, 2026, 12:37:29 AM
Inflation destroys everything. Living 3-5% anual inflation is easy, and that is not the problem. The problem are higher inflation rates over decades.

I grew up in country with 80-100% inflation per month. That is crazy, and economy is destroyed. Nobody knows how much anything costs, sometimes a person gets a good job and it becomes bad quite quickly and might become good again.
Same, bro. We have also lost almost half the value of our currency in the last 5 years. I still remember when $100 was 15k in local currency, and now it is around 30k. Inflation has made things worse. While inflation has increased by 2x, the salaries of employees have only increased by 10% to 15% at most. The lower class is suffering. They are grateful if they get to eat good food sometimes because they have been left in a situation where they can't think about anything else but how to survive in this economy without breaking the law.

Because not everyone is a criminal.

Economies are destroyed mostly because of disasters. The pandemic had the highest impact on our country, and so far we are still dealing with it.



27. Post 66958065 (unedited backup) (by BlackHatCoiner) (scraped on Sun Jul 19 20:07:37 CEST 2026) in Why did AI pass Bitcoin in energy spending?:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 05:52:26 PM
I am not even using vscode anymore  , just antigravity IDE.
I don't understand this migration to Antigravity. Can you tell me what you can do in Antigravity that I can't do in VSCode with a Claude subscription?

Gemini is good, but it's not nearly as good as Anthropic's Fable at coding tasks. I use Gemini more for research, because it has 10 million context window, and does not hallucinate when reading hundreds of articles.



28. Post 66957852 (unedited backup) (by BlackHatCoiner) (scraped on Sun Jul 19 18:58:49 CEST 2026) in Why did AI pass Bitcoin in energy spending?:

Quote from: PrivacyG on July 16, 2026, 07:32:54 PM
I am sorry but I really do not feel any excitement at all about the idea of having a Google-on-steroids as my search engine that collects every thing I prompt, think, search for et cetera exploiting the use of that information to the highest point possible.
I'm afraid to tell you that I agree with bitmover. Yes, the AI is terrible for your privacy at every measurable level, but the market is an eternal competition, and you stand very little chance without the AI in the next age. Whatever your job is, another person who has the same expertise as you, but outsources a big portion of the work to the AI gains so much time and energy to do other tasks that you don't.



29. Post 66957777 (unedited backup) (by Forsyth Jones) (scraped on Sun Jul 19 18:37:01 CEST 2026) in Discussão geral sobre Hardware wallets:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 11:49:31 AM
Bonito mesmo e parece bem legal... Mas caro né.

Eu me sinto seguro com minhas chaves 2FA no meu celular + backup e minhas moeda numa trezor ou ledger, não vejo nada que justifique esse gasto de uns $290 a mais do que os $60 de uma HW normal (tipo a trezor safe 3).... Mas é um artefato interessante para quem gosta de tecnologia

Talvez seja mais focado no uso corporativo?
Aqui no brasil, esse tipo de coisa é artigo de luxo, fica ainda mais caro se formos importar direto, impostos federais mais estaduais mais frete, o produto deve chegar de 80% a 120% mais caro, mais que o dobro, você paga uma carteira pra você e outra pro estado. Quem é entusiasta de Bitcoin ou precisa dele pra viver, aqui não é lugar pra ele.

Quote from: sabotag3x on Today at 03:59:12 PM
Talvez seja mais focado no uso corporativo?

Pra quem faz várias transações por dia (tipo quem opera DeFi ou até mesmo gerentes de campanhas aqui no fórum) deve fazer sentido ter mais práticidade e segurança.

Tanto que estão querendo trocar o nome de "carteira" para "assinador" ou algo assim.. para pessoas normais, a mais barata já serve.

Essa semana vi o ZachXBT falar inclusive que era melhor usar um iphone velho do que uma trezor/ledger Cheesy
Eu podia até concordar com ele, mas ele usou iphone como exemplo, iphone não deve ser tão fácil de remover placa de rede, bluetooth, já nos android, isso é mais viável. Além disso, tentar fazer um airpgapped no celular, não é a melhor ideia, é muito melhor pegar um pc/notebook velho, remover placa de rede, bluetooth e fazer dele um airgapped cold wallet.

Hardware wallet te entrega isso tudo pronto, especialmente se for airgapped como a krux, coldcard, etc. Resta saber se você quer ter uma empresa por trás como a fundation, trezor, coinkite, lançar atualizações ou fizer e manter o setup tudo por conta própria. As duas estratégias deve entregar um setup bem robusto se for tudo bem feito e o usuário souber o que está fazendo.



30. Post 66957664 (unedited backup) (by sabotag3x) (scraped on Sun Jul 19 17:59:13 CEST 2026) in Discussão geral sobre Hardware wallets:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 11:49:31 AM
Talvez seja mais focado no uso corporativo?

Pra quem faz várias transações por dia (tipo quem opera DeFi ou até mesmo gerentes de campanhas aqui no fórum) deve fazer sentido ter mais práticidade e segurança.

Tanto que estão querendo trocar o nome de "carteira" para "assinador" ou algo assim.. para pessoas normais, a mais barata já serve.

Essa semana vi o ZachXBT falar inclusive que era melhor usar um iphone velho do que uma trezor/ledger Cheesy



31. Post 66956807 (unedited backup) (by God Of Thunder) (scraped on Sun Jul 19 12:19:37 CEST 2026) in Bitz.io || Free Raffle 🎟️ – $65 Prize Pool 💰:

Winner:
17 - Warkop

Winner 2:
15 - f150

Winner 3:
33 - Yoona_As

Verify here

Please DM me the Bitz.io Bitcoin deposit address.



32. Post 66953345 (unedited backup) (by LoyceV) (scraped on Sat Jul 18 10:31:01 CEST 2026) in Complete overview of users on DT1 and DT2 and their ratings:

Update:
DT 1
     1. 35: theymos (Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (61) 14654 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 203: HostFat (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (1) 311 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 11425: gmaxwell (Trust: +11 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (15) 10005 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 33156: vapourminer (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 5478 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 51173: mprep (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 1768 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 55384: Foxpup (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (14) 2799 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 64507: philipma1957 (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 11183 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 65636: babo (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 4721 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 78147: Cyrus (Trust: +22 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (22) 2874 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 84521: Welsh (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (25) 3595 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 84866: ibminer (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 2774 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. 85033: d5000 (Trust:  neutral) (DT1! (2) 9867 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. 97582: joker_josue (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 6756 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. 112493: Pmalek (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 8849 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. 113670: Mitchell (Trust: +45 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (20) 2089 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. 123824: albon (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 2146 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. 137185: jeremypwr (Trust: +58 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (17) 6259 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. 140582: gbianchi (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 2557 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. 140584: EFS (Trust: +9 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 2165 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. 164749: stompix (Trust:  neutral) (DT1! (13) 6651 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. 164822: hilariousandco (Trust: +28 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (33) 1933 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. 170072: arulbero (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 1547 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. 189967: buckrogers (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 195 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. 204821: Buchi-88 (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 2377 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. 252510: JayJuanGee (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (21) 13723 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. 257071: NeuroticFish (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 6266 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    27. 314792: examplens (Trust: +10 / =5 / -0) (DT1! (24) 3745 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    28. 317618: nutildah (Trust: +21 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (33) 10245 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    29. 350580: irfan_pak10 (Trust: +17 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (3) 744 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    30. 355846: yahoo62278 (Trust: +39 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (25) 4418 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    31. 364070: bitbollo (Trust: +18 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 3956 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    32. 379147: pooya87 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 11365 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    33. 379487: LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +33 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (22) 11978 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    34. 405464: mocacinno (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 4532 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    35. 405482: Real-Duke (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 2836 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    36. 407174: klarki (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (1) 4598 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    37. 459836: LoyceV (Trust: +32 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (66) 21249 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    38. 487418: The Sceptical Chymist (Trust: +28 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (33) 6361 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    39. 521899: SFR10 (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 3111 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    40. 557798: TryNinja (Trust: +12 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (12) 10130 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    41. 754818: holydarkness (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 1394 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    42. 805820: Lafu (Trust: +18 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (15) 4117 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    43. 830967: tweetious (Trust: +32 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (1) 454 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    44. 839568: AakZaki (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (6) 2017 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    45. 901859: buwaytress (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 3858 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    46. 914465: crwth (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (1) 1359 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    47. 932931: Ale88 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 3594 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    48. 995810: hosemary (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 6800 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    49. 1000199: krogothmanhattan (Trust: +88 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (14) 4208 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    50. 1016855: JollyGood (Trust: +20 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (17) 1961 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    51. 1045971: igebotz (Trust: +12 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (10) 2309 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    52. 1051955: roycilik (Trust: +12 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (2) 1908 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    53. 1052091: CryptopreneurBrainboss (Trust: +17 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (14) 5140 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    54. 1059082: hugeblack (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (12) 4617 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    55. 1067333: El duderino_ (Trust: +27 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (13) 15601 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    56. 1097370: KTChampions (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 2302 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    57. 1099980: Trofo (Trust: +33 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 3576 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    58. 1137579: icopress (Trust: +87 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (38) 12908 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    59. 1190631: JeromeTash (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 1464 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    60. 1247226: logfiles (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 2348 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    61. 1269497: Bitcoin_Arena (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2090 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    62. 1285797: GazetaBitcoin (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (15) 9931 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    63. 1311641: tvplus006 (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (15) 2625 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    64. 1554927: bitmover (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 7615 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    65. 1582324: DdmrDdmr (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (22) 11371 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    66. 1634314: shahzadafzal (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 3382 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    67. 1724800: Lakai01 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 4215 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    68. 1825672: morvillz7z (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 2201 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    69. 1827294: Husna QA (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 3442 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    70. 1852120: fillippone (Trust: +12 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (22) 20973 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    71. 1862043: cryptofrka (Trust: +19 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 2938 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    72. 1878246: abhiseshakana (Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (2) 2564 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    73. 1980983: The Cryptovator (Trust: +21 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (17) 2597 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    74. 1982152: lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +27 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (30) 5719 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    75. 2003859: DireWolfM14 (Trust: +19 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (20) 5747 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    76. 2015418: notblox1 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (1) 1605 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    77. 2344286: Little Mouse (Trust: +49 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (10) 3738 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    78. 2363935: YOSHIE (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (18) 1898 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    79. 2477002: inspace (Trust: +5 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1524 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    80. 2497429: jokers10 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 4133 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    81. 2519096: Awaklara (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (6) 848 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    82. 2597426: efialtis (Trust: +25 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1561 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    83. 2654005: zasad@ (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (7) 5651 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    84. 2658890: Rikafip (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (26) 8150 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    85. 2709122: Etranger (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1884 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    86. 2739424: NotATether (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (11) 9862 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    87. 2739454: Stalker22 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 1594 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    88. 2744352: bullrun2024bro (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 5346 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    89. 2775483: BlackHatCoiner (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 9934 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    90. 2776678: Charles-Tim (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 6440 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    91. 2796662: Lillominato89 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1287 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    92. 2836461: Free Market Capitalist (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (10) 3560 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    93. 3442614: YodasRedRocket (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (1) 650 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    94. 3486361: PowerGlove (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 7207 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    95. 3519432: SirJohnVonSlotty (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1010 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)

DT 2
     1. 3: satoshi (Trust: +42 / =0 / -0) (8773 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 4: sirius (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (935 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 1268: nanotube (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 2252: laanwj (Trust:  neutral) (50 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 2676: casascius (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (193 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 2759: midnightmagic (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (27 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 2786: Pieter Wuille (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (203 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 3380: Vladimir (Trust:  neutral) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 3420: dooglus (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (335 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 4171: Raize (Trust:  neutral) (24 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 6347: Maged (Trust:  neutral) (17 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. 6447: forrestv (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (143 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. 7351: EPiSKiNG (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. 10354: JJG (Trust:  neutral) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. 10502: SgtSpike (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (5 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. 11275: wariner (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (4 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. 11671: Kluge (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (21 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. 12089: piotr_n (Trust:  neutral) (467 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. 12459: CydeWeys (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. 13813: smooth (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (203 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. 14001: MiningBuddy (Trust:  neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)



33. Post 66952091 (unedited backup) (by ZAINmalik75) (scraped on Fri Jul 17 22:42:13 CEST 2026) in CCE.Cash is an instant, low-fee, no-KYC cryptocurrency exchanger:

Quote from: BitMaxz on July 16, 2026, 11:54:32 PM
I believe this is simply their way of expanding their business to other countries because we have different jurisdictions. If KYC is required in your country where you live, you have the option of providing it just to pass the AML policies.

As Tryninja mentioned earlier, you can easily bypass them since Uniswap seems to be giving you two options if you want to share your data or not.
Yes, this Hook KYC feature is for LPs. If someone has a liquidity pool and they have used the Hook feature, then anyone who wants to swap from that pool has to get the KYC NFT first. If their wallet has none, then they will not be able to trade.

The LPs are still modular. You can trade in any pool you want, but confirm before swapping if you are swapping in a Hooked one or a free one where they won't check the NFT automatically. It is a basic smart contract feature that runs automatically, so I don't think Bitmover has to rush into selling his ETH just because of this tool.

But it has proved one thing. Centralization is really getting to where we once used to say it would.



34. Post 66951345 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Fri Jul 17 19:20:07 CEST 2026) in split paymant oque esperar?:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 12:52:22 PM

Acho que sonegar vai ficar cada vez mais difícil daqui pra frente. Vamos viver um futuro de vigilância total do Estado, principalmente em republiquetas de banana como a nossa, onde os direitos individuais são mal vistos.


Isso acaba por ser um ciclo vicioso.

A malta sonega, porque não concorda com os impostos.
Os governos aumentam o controlo e por sua vez os impostos.
A malta arranja novos esquemas para continuar a sonegar.
Os governos criam mais regras para tentar combater.
Etc...



35. Post 66951323 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Fri Jul 17 19:15:43 CEST 2026) in Bip110 - A polémica :

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 09:49:34 AM
Acham que vão salvar o "mundo".  Roll Eyes

Eles querem é se salvar

Depois que eu soube que o Luke foi hackeado e perdeu todas as suas moedas, deixei de levar a sério essa empreitada... ele está só querendo recuperar o que perdeu.

E se essa não resultar, vai fazer como o outro e dizer que é o Satoshi...  Roll Eyes



36. Post 66950903 (unedited backup) (by zasad@) (scraped on Fri Jul 17 17:27:31 CEST 2026) in CCE.Cash is an instant, low-fee, no-KYC cryptocurrency exchanger:

Quote from: bitmover on July 16, 2026, 11:59:28 AM
Decentralized exchanges like Uniswap have already introduced KYC capabilities in Uniswap v4.
This is implemented via the "Hooks" mechanism, allowing a developer to create a liquidity pool and attach a "KYC hook" to it. This hook checks whether the user holds a specific KYC-NFT verification token in their wallet - a token obtained after completing the KYC process through a third-party service. I haven't encountered this in practice yet, but it will likely be implemented soon.

This is an important information.  Thanks for sharing.
Do you have more details about it? I use it a lot and always co sidered kyc free. I was going to use it in the future to dump my remaining eth. Not anymore I guess Grin
You don't need to worry about KYC on Uniswap right now. All pools on the Uniswap v1-3 protocol operate without KYC.
You can also use a bridge
https://app.rango.exchange/
But you should use caution with your main wallets. I use intermediate wallets for bridges.



37. Post 66949900 (unedited backup) (by Wind_FURY) (scraped on Fri Jul 17 11:41:55 CEST 2026) in Analysis:

Quote from: okorieemmanuel on June 21, 2026, 04:31:09 PM
Although you "may" be right, BUT currently, Bitcoin's Four-Year-Cycle is STILL INTACT. Why make decisions because you "believe" that you're absolutely right and the market is wrong, or you "feel" that something different is going to happen?

That's how "investors" lose their precious capital.

Cylces are not "intact".
We had for the first time an ATH before the halving. The bear market started earlier than expected (in October).


A MINOR difference of one or two months does NOT make the Cycle broken. I would be the first person to say that the Cycle is broken IF the bear market continues throughout Q2/Q3 2027, OR if a surge to another All Time High happens this year.

In the current state of the Cycle, we might see the actual bottom in October or November.

That is a minor difference looking backwards.

If you are expecting the price to continue to grow for 4 more months and it collapses before that,  you lose money.  That is what happened last cycle

We have a saying in Brazil for this:
All the winning numbers of a winning lottery ticket looks  easy on Monday  Cheesy


I'm not actually sure what "narrative" you're trying to tell me. But you do you. Because from looking at this zoomed out chart, it FACTUALLY shows that Bitcoin's Four-Year-Cycle is still intact.

It's NOT even debatable.



  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If we boil it down to a binary reality.  And we do not define the parameters of the cycle too tightly.

But it is seemingly changing.  At least amplitude.  And we do not really have enough data for THIS cycle to be conclusive IMHO.  Not to mention that the sample size for the whole thing is 3.75.

Would you agree that for the cycle to be still valid we will need a bigger capitulation than we have seen so far?  Your image does not show that red box.

I HAVE to admit I am quite surprised it has seemingly held on this long.  I thought the institutional analysts would have it figured out and somehow counter trade it which would cause it to begin to disappear.

I also would think the effects of institutional shenanigans would overshadow anything the actual cycle forces could muster.  And indeed that may be part of what is damping the amplitude...



Thank God you mentioned that this data is not complete. Else your predictions may be scary for me decipher without being sentimental. Let's add all the facts first before throwing figures on the table please.


The data is not complete because it's still being made through the completion of the Bear Cycle, which if the Four-Year-Cycle is still intact, then "the bottom" will be in October/November, 2026. IF it's NOT intact, then probably the bottom already happened OR we'll probably experience a longer Bear Cycle and lower bottom than what we'll see in October/November, no?

   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



38. Post 66949465 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Fri Jul 17 08:12:43 CEST 2026) in [ANN] bitcoindata.science:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 01:00:49 AM
But I am not sure if for the fact that I use cloudflare i should inform the users that cloudflare might be collecting their data

If you're only using Cloudflare's basic features, such as a CDN service or CSRF protection, without advanced traffic/user analysis capabilities, then it's not necessary either.

This is usually only required if: you use Google Analytics, Meta Pixel, Microsoft Clarity, Google AdSense, or other similar tools. Or if you have cookies or collect data for analytics, advertising, personalization, or tracking.

If you don't do any of the things I mentioned above, you don't need any banner of this kind.




39. Post 66949084 (unedited backup) (by BitMaxz) (scraped on Fri Jul 17 01:54:37 CEST 2026) in CCE.Cash is an instant, low-fee, no-KYC cryptocurrency exchanger:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 11:59:28 AM

This is an important information.  Thanks for sharing.
Do you have more details about it? I use it a lot and always co sidered kyc free. I was going to use it in the future to dump my remaining eth. Not anymore I guess Grin

I believe this is simply their way of expanding their business to other countries because we have different jurisdictions. If KYC is required in your country where you live, you have the option of providing it just to pass the AML policies.

As Tryninja mentioned earlier, you can easily bypass them since Uniswap seems to be giving you two options if you want to share your data or not.



40. Post 66948257 (unedited backup) (by PrivacyG) (scraped on Thu Jul 16 21:32:55 CEST 2026) in Why did AI pass Bitcoin in energy spending?:

Quote from: bitmover on July 15, 2026, 09:18:21 PM
Maybe you need to use more AI. It really helps in everything.
I am sorry but I really do not feel any excitement at all about the idea of having a Google-on-steroids as my search engine that collects every thing I prompt, think, search for et cetera exploiting the use of that information to the highest point possible.

Quote from: bitmover on July 15, 2026, 09:18:21 PM
Basically all software and websites are written with AI help (or entirely written by AI).
Scientists are using it in their researches.
And to me that is very concerning.  We are stupidifying our selves on a faster pace than ever.  After TikTok, AI and what ever comes next, humanity may really reach the Idiocracy level of brain dead.



41. Post 66947467 (unedited backup) (by Pmalek) (scraped on Thu Jul 16 17:29:07 CEST 2026) in CCE.Cash is an instant, low-fee, no-KYC cryptocurrency exchanger:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 11:59:28 AM
This is an important information.  Thanks for sharing.
Do you have more details about it? I use it a lot and always co sidered kyc free. I was going to use it in the future to dump my remaining eth. Not anymore I guess Grin
Here is an official link from Uniswap with some more information about Hooks in general:
https://developers.uniswap.org/docs/protocols/v4/concepts/hooks

An article I found says pretty much the same as zasad@ did. The KYC hook is an optional feature. Liquidity providers can choose to use it or not. For example, if laws in certain jurisdictions require them to perform KYC, they can do that.



42. Post 66947300 (unedited backup) (by LoyceV) (scraped on Thu Jul 16 16:31:49 CEST 2026) in LoyceV's Merit data analysis (full data since Jan. 24, 2018; not just 120 days):

Weekly update (2026-07-10_Fri_05.18h)


theymos' raw data (format: time    amount    msg    user_from    user_to)
Sample
Code:
1783651823 2 4657305.msg66925025 1724800 1041310
1783651420 1 5583520.msg66924272 1237156 7811
1783650362 1 5587999.msg66925364 3570710 1045971
1783649438 1 5579256.msg66925155 3752555 1190631
1783648143 1 178336.msg66923967 252510 198573
1783648035 1 178336.msg66923919 252510 1634314
1783647622 1 178336.msg66923656 252510 533583
1783647479 1 5587136.msg66923796 1269701 221727
1783647466 1 178336.msg66923627 252510 33156
1783647378 1 178336.msg66923399 252510 963784
1783646594 1 5587805.msg66921623 995810 3434176
1783646583 1 5587805.msg66921475 995810 2004043
1783646462 1 178336.msg66923177 252510 64507
1783646346 1 178336.msg66923148 252510 33156
1783646305 1 178336.msg66922880 252510 2755547
1783646154 1 178336.msg66922707 252510 2755547
1783645783 1 178336.msg66922590 252510 1634314
1783644676 1 5376945.msg66925568 252510 3724979
1783644195 1 5587709.msg66918765 1593137 753396
1783642731 1 5445282.msg66924550 1554927 97582
1783642227 1 5587703.msg66925507 3442536 137185
1783642040 1 5376945.msg66924564 252510 3752453
1783641608 1 5376945.msg66924386 252510 3367218
1783641526 1 5376945.msg66924171 252510 3525056
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1783641085 1 5376945.msg66924040 252510 3733747
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1783640441 1 5451044.msg66905679 1827294 392207
1783639302 1 5376945.msg66923590 252510 3614991
1783638645 1 5376945.msg66923542 252510 3508007
1783638386 1 5549699.msg66330731 3559419 3607450
1783638327 1 5587824.msg66918353 3559419 3534730
1783637475 2 5587999.msg66924985 1045971 3663803
1783637353 1 5479271.msg66925250 3528115 2015418
1783637342 1 5479271.msg66925092 3528115 1593137
1783636885 1 5587786.msg66924407 97582 1031572
1783636367 1 5538211.msg66922496 941526 112493
1783636280 2 5587991.msg66924881 184231 317618
1783636240 2 5587991.msg66924902 184231 163641
1783636079 1 5376945.msg66923381 252510 3732496
1783635719 1 232519.msg66924601 2872248 3594134
1783635680 3 5587864.msg66919604 407174 3761530
1783635123 5 5544695.msg65425359 113670 3082389
1783635115 1 5544695.msg66522282 113670 857604
1783635061 1 5544695.msg66923645 113670 857604
1783634986 1 5587575.msg66913976 407174 1365271
1783633131 1 5587312.msg66924662 3639584 149135
1783632882 2 5451159.msg66922957 407174 2654005
1783632697 1 4850385.msg66914397 407174 2843153
1783632363 3 5587954.msg66922802 407174 366632
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1516833930 7 2228.msg29479 135920 3
1516833833 1 178336.msg28855702 479624 1130992
1516833813 1 2817737.msg28849540 1001644 990403
1516833798 21 5.msg28 520313 3
1516833796 1 2808926.msg28728384 140584 35
1516833779 1 178336.msg28853916 479624 33156
1516833756 20 2482937.msg25417254 101872 135920
1516833713 21 5.msg28 169515 3
1516833686 1 2818179.msg28855276 994466 1196028
1516833610 49 1545652.msg15536651 206143 520313
1516833593 1 2818066.msg28855136 260067 520313
1516833592 2 2806168.msg28855427 520313 355846
1516833591 49 1545652.msg15536651 881377 520313
1516833523 1 2818066.msg28855343 539826 340795
1516833521 1 2818066.msg28855136 514126 520313
1516833478 1 2818066.msg28855136 482980 520313
1516833460 1 2818066.msg28854596 93844 520313
1516833451 1 2816214.msg28845827 1083353 1520388
1516833430 50 178608.msg28854963 884600 520313
1516833349 1 178336.msg28852898 479624 1521711
1516833346 1 2812863.msg28785611 303315 1707287
1516833329 1 2818066.msg28854596 206143 520313
1516833326 1 178336.msg28852768 479624 181806
1516833304 1 2818066.msg28853325 340795 877396
1516833289 1 2716104.msg28846824 1239985 1739247
1516833281 1 2818066.msg28853686 206143 136484
1516833252 1 2816647.msg28837916 169515 1701092
1516833251 1 178336.msg28849600 479624 172400
1516833237 1 2677441.msg28778318 123412 1090430
1516833230 1 2814078.msg28796083 520313 881377
1516833207 1 2772292.msg28837085 1189487 1028592
1516833203 1 2818066.msg28855136 101872 520313
1516833199 1 2818066.msg28853325 926641 877396
1516833148 1 2808926.msg28793321 78147 35
1516833148 1 2634042.msg28672219 123412 1094601
1516833111 1 2818066.msg28855136 535215 520313
1516833078 45 2813828.msg28801076 135920 101872
1516833070 1 2818066.msg28855136 881377 520313
1516833049 1 2677441.msg28848945 88254 903139
1516833048 1 2818066.msg28855136 101872 520313
1516833044 5 2818066.msg28855019 135920 688810
1516833001 5 2813828.msg28801076 135920 101872
1516832978 1 2384335.msg28854772 1344962 1101839
1516832969 1 2818066.msg28855136 881564 520313
1516832953 1 2818066.msg28854621 520313 101872
1516832934 1 2818066.msg28855136 877396 520313
1516832874 1 178608.msg28792130 884600 35
1516832842 5 2818066.msg28853325 688810 877396
1516832833 2 178336.msg28852079 479624 1257516
1516831941 1 2818066.msg28853325 35 877396
Full list* (57 MB) (not limited to 120 days, 2319 Merit transactions added since my previous update).

theymos' data (human readable format, including usernames and post titles)
Sample
On Fri 10 Jul 2026 04:50:23 AM CEST, Lakai01 (history) sent 2 Merit to Unknown01 (history) for Re: [Neue Auswertungen] Wir deutschsprachigen und die Merits ... .
On Fri 10 Jul 2026 04:43:40 AM CEST, nc50lc (history) sent 1 Merit to goatpig (history) for Re: 0.97 RC1.
On Fri 10 Jul 2026 04:26:02 AM CEST, promise444c5 (history) sent 1 Merit to igehhh (history) for Re: OKX is back in Nigeria .
On Fri 10 Jul 2026 04:10:38 AM CEST, KycNotList (history) sent 1 Merit to JeromeTash (history) for Re: &#128270; [ANN] KycNotList.com — No KYC / No AML Crypto Exchange Monitor.
On Fri 10 Jul 2026 03:49:03 AM CEST, JayJuanGee (history) sent 1 Merit to Hueristic (history) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking &amp; discussion.
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On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:28:54 PM CET, AdolfinWolf (history) sent 1 Merit to Lutpin (history) for Re: What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:54 PM CET, Dahman El_Harrachi (history) sent 1 Merit to theymos (history) for Re: Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?).
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:22 PM CET, Tyrantt (history) sent 5 Merit to AdolfinWolf (history) for What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:13 PM CET, Last of the V8s (history) sent 2 Merit to Rosewater Foundation (history) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking &amp; discussion.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:12:21 PM CET, theymos (history) sent 1 Merit to AdolfinWolf (history) for What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
Full list (602 MB)

Usernames to go with theymos' data
Sample
0: deMerit (Bitcoin Forum) (history) earned: 0 Merit.
3: satoshi (history) earned: 8773 Merit.
4: sirius (history) earned: 935 Merit.
10: Xunie (history) earned: 1 Merit.
11: madhatter (history) earned: 16 Merit.
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3761538: Benedesuuuk (history) earned: 9 Merit.
3761676: Lytvynets1 (history) earned: 2 Merit.
3761774: scoorched (history) earned: 1 Merit.
3761990: Alex_Yann(Hammer Miner) (history) earned: 1 Merit.
3761992: Diceftw (history) earned: 1 Merit.
Full list* (10 MB)

Usernames machine readable
Sample
Code:
0: deMerit (Bitcoin Forum)
3: satoshi
4: sirius
10: Xunie
11: madhatter
12: nanaimogold
13: SmokeTooMuch
14: The Madhatter
21: AgoraMutual
23: 1 currency now
24: dwdollar
26: NewLibertyStandard
27: riX
28: Sabunir
29: giik
30: BitcoinFX
31: Suggester
33: m0mchil
34: BlueSky
35: theymos
37: soultcer
40: xc
42: ec
49: Cdecker
51: DannyM
97: dsg
101: Goldstein
143: laszlo
145: ducki2p
146: Brandon
163: Karmicads
182: Derrick
183: hugolp
198: allinvain
203: HostFat
206: teppy
217: SirArthur
224: Gavin Andresen
237: lachesis
241: QuantumMechanic
244: nixoid
251: wobber
262: chaord
267: virtualcoin
269: Bitcoiner
270: llama
271: Timo Y
274: limikael
284: joey.rich
288: Stone Man
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3758666: ChrisOfTheOT
3758716: abdulcelildibo
3758816: WurstTrader
3758829: options4good
3758929: SubGenius.Finance
3758969: Ghostswap.io
3759033: Fash33
3759071: standardnepo
3759079: Parveziqbal123
3759272: WhatareYou
3759370: ArkonSwap
3759379: Crypto gbeegbe
3759389: Antidote47k
3759454: Nwaswago
3759482: Ribust
3759517: satsinesat
3759555: DroidDesk
3759560: hellowaza
3759674: VarJames
3759725: godisreal
3759766: KingVesting
3759808: Kannibal Hektor
3760211: 0xHashRaptor
3760228: lll555
3760243: proofra
3760275: Neha2399
3760276: DragonBites
3760305: redtrusts
3760506: smf24
3760625: gijane
3760686: legendo
3760707: aodrbxo
3760791: swedoc
3760817: lastpixellive
3760902: borrowonbitcoin
3760961: Ethereum1
3761001: buffetto
3761071: Droppies
3761141: paidfully
3761153: mickpaoli
3761170: Soulistic
3761237: IsItMiCACompliant
3761238: xmrbro
3761348: Gmax98005
3761530: Priamex.com
3761538: Benedesuuuk
3761676: Lytvynets1
3761774: scoorched
3761990: Alex_Yann(Hammer Miner)
3761992: Diceftw
Full list (2 MB)

UserIDs, sent Merit and earned Merit machine readable
Sample
Code:
0:569:0
3:0:8773
4:0:935
10:0:1
11:0:16
12:0:1
13:3:96
14:0:13
21:0:2
23:0:1
24:0:9
26:0:19
27:0:54
28:0:13
29:0:4
30:380:800
31:0:1
33:0:27
34:0:4
35:14428:14654
37:0:6
40:0:4
42:0:69
49:0:5
51:0:2
97:0:2
101:0:2
143:0:2742
145:0:2
146:0:4
163:0:21
182:1:0
183:9:1
198:2:87
203:68:311
206:0:14
217:3:36
224:0:1491
237:0:6
241:0:9
244:0:1
251:0:1
262:0:1
267:0:2
269:0:2
270:0:57
271:0:1
274:0:42
284:0:6
288:0:11
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3758666:0:1
3758716:0:1
3758816:0:1
3758829:0:1
3758929:0:1
3758969:1:3
3759033:0:3
3759071:3:7
3759079:0:1
3759272:0:2
3759370:0:1
3759379:0:1
3759389:0:9
3759454:0:1
3759482:4:19
3759517:0:2
3759555:0:1
3759560:0:2
3759674:0:3
3759725:0:1
3759766:0:4
3759808:9:37
3760211:0:4
3760228:0:1
3760243:0:5
3760275:0:2
3760276:0:2
3760305:0:3
3760506:0:1
3760625:0:1
3760686:0:2
3760707:0:3
3760791:0:1
3760817:0:5
3760902:0:3
3760961:0:2
3761001:0:2
3761071:0:1
3761141:0:1
3761153:0:1
3761170:1:4
3761237:0:3
3761238:0:4
3761348:0:1
3761530:0:4
3761538:0:9
3761676:0:2
3761774:0:1
3761990:0:1
3761992:0:1
Full list (1 MB)

Total number of users who received 1 or more Merit: 51574
Sample
Code:
     1. 21249 Merit received by LoyceV (#459836) from 1116 unique users in 12300 transactions
     2. 20973 Merit received by fillippone (#1852120) from 764 unique users in 11486 transactions
     3. 18897 Merit received by o_e_l_e_o (#1188543) from 801 unique users in 9988 transactions
     4. 15601 Merit received by El duderino_ (#1067333) from 480 unique users in 8956 transactions
     5. 14654 Merit received by theymos (#35) from 1225 unique users in 5304 transactions
     6. 13723 Merit received by JayJuanGee (#252510) from 731 unique users in 9043 transactions
     7. 12908 Merit received by icopress (#1137579) from 604 unique users in 4843 transactions
     8. 11978 Merit received by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) from 500 unique users in 6598 transactions
     9. 11957 Merit received by Symmetrick (#2627711) from 773 unique users in 6854 transactions
    10. 11789 Merit received by cygan (#27470) from 527 unique users in 6068 transactions
    11. 11371 Merit received by DdmrDdmr (#1582324) from 655 unique users in 6470 transactions
    12. 11365 Merit received by pooya87 (#379147) from 611 unique users in 6611 transactions
    13. 11183 Merit received by philipma1957 (#64507) from 587 unique users in 6438 transactions
    14. 10376 Merit received by xhomerx10 (#120694) from 331 unique users in 5308 transactions
    15. 10245 Merit received by nutildah (#317618) from 659 unique users in 5548 transactions
    16. 10130 Merit received by TryNinja (#557798) from 558 unique users in 4520 transactions
    17. 10005 Merit received by gmaxwell (#11425) from 341 unique users in 3675 transactions
    18. 9934 Merit received by BlackHatCoiner (#2775483) from 469 unique users in 4972 transactions
    19. 9931 Merit received by GazetaBitcoin (#1285797) from 402 unique users in 3457 transactions
    20. 9867 Merit received by d5000 (#85033) from 453 unique users in 5393 transactions
    21. 9862 Merit received by NotATether (#2739424) from 534 unique users in 4544 transactions
    22. 9186 Merit received by ABCbits (#359716) from 543 unique users in 4966 transactions
    23. 8898 Merit received by nc50lc (#1237156) from 410 unique users in 4587 transactions
    24. 8849 Merit received by Pmalek (#112493) from 584 unique users in 5235 transactions
    25. 8773 Merit received by satoshi (#3) from 411 unique users in 930 transactions
    26. 8755 Merit received by dkbit98 (#1410401) from 456 unique users in 5188 transactions
    27. 8542 Merit received by suchmoon (#234771) from 573 unique users in 4859 transactions
    28. 8150 Merit received by Rikafip (#2658890) from 460 unique users in 4467 transactions
    29. 7615 Merit received by bitmover (#1554927) from 592 unique users in 4514 transactions
    30. 7613 Merit received by 1miau (#2143453) from 496 unique users in 4137 transactions
    31. 7238 Merit received by AlcoHoDL (#998490) from 202 unique users in 4170 transactions
    32. 7207 Merit received by PowerGlove (#3486361) from 234 unique users in 1853 transactions
    33. 7198 Merit received by mikeywith (#2033515) from 405 unique users in 3671 transactions
    34. 6885 Merit received by DaveF (#300014) from 386 unique users in 3488 transactions
    35. 6881 Merit received by cAPSLOCK (#35501) from 229 unique users in 3939 transactions
    36. 6800 Merit received by hosemary (#995810) from 398 unique users in 3736 transactions
    37. 6756 Merit received by joker_josue (#97582) from 345 unique users in 3167 transactions
    38. 6755 Merit received by achow101 (#290195) from 278 unique users in 3037 transactions
    39. 6723 Merit received by Hhampuz (#881377) from 955 unique users in 4373 transactions
    40. 6651 Merit received by stompix (#164749) from 487 unique users in 3694 transactions
    41. 6590 Merit received by Lucius (#533583) from 529 unique users in 3811 transactions
    42. 6451 Merit received by OmegaStarScream (#375981) from 429 unique users in 3529 transactions
    43. 6440 Merit received by Charles-Tim (#2776678) from 435 unique users in 3762 transactions
    44. 6425 Merit received by Hueristic (#198573) from 206 unique users in 3716 transactions
    45. 6361 Merit received by The Sceptical Chymist (#487418) from 625 unique users in 3580 transactions
    46. 6266 Merit received by NeuroticFish (#257071) from 461 unique users in 3490 transactions
    47. 6259 Merit received by jeremypwr (#137185) from 221 unique users in 3640 transactions
    48. 6086 Merit received by n0nce (#3373858) from 196 unique users in 2648 transactions
    49. 5747 Merit received by DireWolfM14 (#2003859) from 396 unique users in 2723 transactions
    50. 5719 Merit received by lovesmayfamilis (#1982152) from 458 unique users in 4018 transactions
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 51525. 1 Merit received by 1ceStorm (#2342907) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51526. 1 Merit received by 1ce (#1019784) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51527. 1 Merit received by 1camtron (#1236351) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51528. 1 Merit received by 1apayment (#1855631) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51529. 1 Merit received by 1907KFY (#1935217) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51530. 1 Merit received by 16xypjnxlrew (#2705665) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51531. 1 Merit received by 16tonn (#3560052) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51532. 1 Merit received by 15horses1donkey (#560958) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51533. 1 Merit received by 15519028115Q (#3575647) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51534. 1 Merit received by 15262kk (#291561) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51535. 1 Merit received by 14z4rus (#3669471) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51536. 1 Merit received by 1453ist (#1431126) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51537. 1 Merit received by 1453eko (#1431103) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51538. 1 Merit received by 13Winter13 (#919666) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51539. 1 Merit received by 13ex07 (#1207068) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51540. 1 Merit received by 13dizel (#1208678) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51541. 1 Merit received by 1357924680 (#333305) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51542. 1 Merit received by 12tribes (#1221082) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51543. 1 Merit received by 12assa34 (#1729394) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51544. 1 Merit received by 123tm (#848549) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51545. 1 Merit received by 123pogi123 (#2252156) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51546. 1 Merit received by 123exo123 (#1919155) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51547. 1 Merit received by 112_blockchain (#2081987) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51548. 1 Merit received by 11:11pas (#1306783) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51549. 1 Merit received by 1083ivangod (#1952712) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51550. 1 Merit received by 101Crypta (#1287691) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51551. 1 Merit received by 100x (#80115) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51552. 1 Merit received by 100steeze (#3637720) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51553. 1 Merit received by 100%_Shared_FreeBitco.in (#2531436) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51554. 1 Merit received by 100monet (#323057) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51555. 1 Merit received by 1000x (#3509491) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51556. 1 Merit received by 1000usdforwife (#1547718) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51557. 1 Merit received by 1000alasan (#2458354) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51558. 1 Merit received by 0xMuted (#3713926) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51559. 1 Merit received by 0xBrian (#2625170) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51560. 1 Merit received by 0xb100d (#1342964) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51561. 1 Merit received by 0x77 (#3316521) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51562. 1 Merit received by 0x1Knowledge (#2000899) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51563. 1 Merit received by 0vx (#2805438) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51564. 1 Merit received by 0RajA0 (#1151527) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51565. 1 Merit received by 0nion (#3614135) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51566. 1 Merit received by 0bit (#493268) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51567. 1 Merit received by 063Myxa (#1432563) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51568. 1 Merit received by 05btc (#2050202) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51569. 1 Merit received by 00RedBlack00 (#2527578) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51570. 1 Merit received by 00hello (#2471124) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51571. 1 Merit received by $--Perfect. Exchange-$. (#1140007) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51572. 1 Merit received by $imple$imon (#2060672) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51573. 1 Merit received by $BitMakeR$ (#1166812) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51574. 0 Merit received by gwsukabokepjepang (#2536607) from 2 unique users in 2 transactions
Full list (5 MB)

Total number of users who gave away 1 or more sMerit: 26704
Sample
Code:
     1. 76324 Merit sent by El duderino_ (#1067333) to 909 unique users in 13018 transactions
     2. 71451 Merit sent by fillippone (#1852120) to 2294 unique users in 31288 transactions
     3. 68773 Merit sent by LoyceV (#459836) to 3345 unique users in 18007 transactions
     4. 61962 Merit sent by JayJuanGee (#252510) to 3648 unique users in 59726 transactions
     5. 60127 Merit sent by ABCbits (#359716) to 4722 unique users in 34432 transactions
     6. 53377 Merit sent by vapourminer (#33156) to 3768 unique users in 36778 transactions
     7. 45232 Merit sent by hugeblack (#1059082) to 2918 unique users in 16014 transactions
     8. 41808 Merit sent by suchmoon (#234771) to 2887 unique users in 9159 transactions
     9. 38792 Merit sent by xandry (#382413) to 2540 unique users in 14447 transactions
    10. 38321 Merit sent by DdmrDdmr (#1582324) to 2964 unique users in 31046 transactions
    11. 35648 Merit sent by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) to 1597 unique users in 14164 transactions
    12. 33333 Merit sent by Symmetrick (#2627711) to 2254 unique users in 16803 transactions
    13. 33037 Merit sent by klarki (#407174) to 2192 unique users in 11324 transactions
    14. 32774 Merit sent by The Sceptical Chymist (#487418) to 1490 unique users in 10447 transactions
    15. 29777 Merit sent by EFS (#140584) to 1460 unique users in 7781 transactions
    16. 29202 Merit sent by Welsh (#84521) to 1729 unique users in 6836 transactions
    17. 26646 Merit sent by o_e_l_e_o (#1188543) to 2510 unique users in 9360 transactions
    18. 25901 Merit sent by 1miau (#2143453) to 1317 unique users in 11630 transactions
    19. 25072 Merit sent by qwk (#24140) to 603 unique users in 6491 transactions
    20. 23224 Merit sent by pooya87 (#379147) to 1382 unique users in 9530 transactions
    21. 22424 Merit sent by dbshck (#153634) to 1314 unique users in 6442 transactions
    22. 18027 Merit sent by NotATether (#2739424) to 1770 unique users in 4070 transactions
    23. 16955 Merit sent by Julien_Olynpic (#1166480) to 568 unique users in 7967 transactions
    24. 16781 Merit sent by Vispilio (#982288) to 753 unique users in 6231 transactions
    25. 16515 Merit sent by nutildah (#317618) to 1748 unique users in 7569 transactions
    26. 16274 Merit sent by Pmalek (#112493) to 1201 unique users in 9324 transactions
    27. 16240 Merit sent by Halab (#1053119) to 2004 unique users in 6602 transactions
    28. 15275 Merit sent by Foxpup (#55384) to 642 unique users in 5489 transactions
    29. 15056 Merit sent by bitmover (#1554927) to 1331 unique users in 8470 transactions
    30. 14561 Merit sent by philipma1957 (#64507) to 1689 unique users in 7614 transactions
    31. 14428 Merit sent by theymos (#35) to 1107 unique users in 1766 transactions
    32. 14365 Merit sent by OgNasty (#18321) to 3162 unique users in 7556 transactions
    33. 13571 Merit sent by krogothmanhattan (#1000199) to 663 unique users in 3635 transactions
    34. 13421 Merit sent by dkbit98 (#1410401) to 1151 unique users in 8206 transactions
    35. 13393 Merit sent by paxmao (#1192397) to 1307 unique users in 5907 transactions
    36. 13372 Merit sent by CryptopreneurBrainboss (#1052091) to 1354 unique users in 7420 transactions
    37. 13366 Merit sent by NeuroticFish (#257071) to 834 unique users in 6273 transactions
    38. 13204 Merit sent by BlackHatCoiner (#2775483) to 848 unique users in 4295 transactions
    39. 12114 Merit sent by chimk (#1202061) to 757 unique users in 4369 transactions
    40. 11888 Merit sent by d5000 (#85033) to 1193 unique users in 6509 transactions
    41. 10800 Merit sent by mikeywith (#2033515) to 548 unique users in 3984 transactions
    42. 8734 Merit sent by DarkStar_ (#507936) to 971 unique users in 2196 transactions
    43. 8712 Merit sent by bones261 (#452769) to 1032 unique users in 4239 transactions
    44. 8606 Merit sent by Hueristic (#198573) to 585 unique users in 7331 transactions
    45. 8547 Merit sent by Coolcryptovator (#1980983) to 1063 unique users in 3708 transactions
    46. 8532 Merit sent by Buchi-88 (#204821) to 757 unique users in 7392 transactions
    47. 8368 Merit sent by BobLawblaw (#569455) to 332 unique users in 3370 transactions
    48. 8364 Merit sent by babo (#65636) to 522 unique users in 6616 transactions
    49. 8204 Merit sent by OmegaStarScream (#375981) to 958 unique users in 3580 transactions
    50. 7953 Merit sent by Xal0lex (#1068464) to 667 unique users in 2476 transactions
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 26655. 1 Merit sent by 3acaga (#1232502) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26656. 1 Merit sent by 360llqzc (#1300924) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26657. 1 Merit sent by 333btc (#3450760) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26658. 1 Merit sent by 3227jw (#2592839) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26659. 1 Merit sent by 2x2coindwarf (#2686612) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26660. 1 Merit sent by 2x25BT (#990097) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26661. 1 Merit sent by 2drive (#1304704) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26662. 1 Merit sent by 2andahalfBTC (#1142164) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26663. 1 Merit sent by 27QVUTZj8rgZP1 (#662730) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26664. 1 Merit sent by 27aume (#1001865) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26665. 1 Merit sent by 2342q6tegw (#1212678) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26666. 1 Merit sent by 214missy (#1285563) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26667. 1 Merit sent by 212fox (#1342293) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26668. 1 Merit sent by 1xbitpatnar (#3475604) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26669. 1 Merit sent by 1r0n (#1252002) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26670. 1 Merit sent by 1pool Ltd. (#2062862) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26671. 1 Merit sent by 1melyun (#543052) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26672. 1 Merit sent by 1cyrax00 (#964210) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26673. 1 Merit sent by 1CryptoSmurf (#1352746) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26674. 1 Merit sent by 1chempion123 (#1346880) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26675. 1 Merit sent by 1cak (#1136856) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26676. 1 Merit sent by 1amCrypt0 (#933826) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26677. 1 Merit sent by 19Nov16 (#921267) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26678. 1 Merit sent by 19nataliya12 (#1873934) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26679. 1 Merit sent by 19dimasik77 (#881779) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26680. 1 Merit sent by 1971ECPT (#3553473) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26681. 1 Merit sent by 17buratin (#1187494) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26682. 1 Merit sent by 13ex07 (#1207068) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26683. 1 Merit sent by 13Charlie (#76987) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26684. 1 Merit sent by 12retepnat34 (#1053271) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26685. 1 Merit sent by 10yearsolder (#1094878) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26686. 1 Merit sent by 10sat (#1162504) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26687. 1 Merit sent by 10casproj (#3515598) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26688. 1 Merit sent by 10BTCaDay (#396522) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26689. 1 Merit sent by 100kk (#1316426) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26690. 1 Merit sent by 100eth (#1324600) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26691. 1 Merit sent by 0xBitcoins (#2205183) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26692. 1 Merit sent by 0xBet (#3572636) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26693. 1 Merit sent by 0x0333 (#1913654) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26694. 1 Merit sent by 0vn1 (#1216048) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26695. 1 Merit sent by 0virtual (#1244555) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26696. 1 Merit sent by 0id1d (#3600764) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26697. 1 Merit sent by 0Alvaren0 (#2020991) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26698. 1 Merit sent by 01BTC (#1756786) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26699. 1 Merit sent by 01bits (#1629161) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26700. 1 Merit sent by 00HasH (#841746) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26701. 1 Merit sent by 00DKM@ (#1311705) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26702. 1 Merit sent by 00.00WIB (#3392171) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26703. 1 Merit sent by $@to$h! (#1183184) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26704. 1 Merit sent by $Talker (#1043705) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
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Merit per day of the week
Monday 338473 (14.38%)
Tuesday 338172 (14.36%)
Wednesday 337826 (14.35%)
Thursday 358516 (15.23%)
Friday 355997 (15.12%)
Saturday 310214 (13.18%)
Sunday 314372 (13.35%)
Total: 2353570


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43. Post 66947201 (unedited backup) (by rdluffy) (scraped on Thu Jul 16 15:56:25 CEST 2026) in Como investir 100 mil reais?:

Quote from: criptoevangelista on July 15, 2026, 03:00:42 PM
... com 100 mil reais na conta, eu manteria em um CDB, ganhando mil e pouquinho por mês sem fazer nada e esperando o momento certo.
...

Acho que ele já tem em CDB

Quote from: sabotag3x on July 15, 2026, 04:01:25 PM
Difícil ein.. depois o mercado cai e ele coloca a culpa em você Cheesy

Bitcoin parece estar bem próximo do seu fundo, seria um bom momento para entrar de cabeça...

Eu já deixei bem claro  Cheesy
Acho que se fosse eu nesse exato momento eu investiria metade no BTC, um pouco em altcoin e ia fazendo um DCA de leve
Pra quem já está há mais tempo acostumado com BTC, acho que fica mais tranquilo de pesar a mão

Quote from: Forsyth Jones on July 15, 2026, 05:41:25 PM
...
Eu faria da seguinte forma (meio por cima): Faria DCA no Bitcoin e talvez uma compra grande se eu achar que o preço esta no fundo do poço, como estar abaixo da EMA de 200 ou com o RSI semanal ou mensal bem sobrevendido (quase sempre que isso acontece, o preço tende a ter uma subida forte que pode durar de 6 meses ou reverter completamente pro bull market), a compra grande seria em torno de 10k - 20k.
...

Pra quem sabe o que está fazendo é mais tranquilo, mas acho que não tenho coragem de indicar alavancagem para um conhecido que não entende muito de cripto, é bastante arriscado na minha opinião

Quote from: joker_josue on July 15, 2026, 06:00:53 PM
Se foi ele que perguntou como investir em cripto, e não foi você que sugeriu fazer, então acho que é mais tranquilo.

Exatamente joker, é um conhecido bem tranquilo, eu expliquei dos riscos e que não há garantia alguma, mas ele mesmo demonstrou interesse, não precisei convencer de nada hahaha

Quote from: bitmover on July 15, 2026, 08:19:55 PM
...
Eu iria 100% de bitcoin.

Voce pode sugerir fazer dca... mas sera que agoea nao é uma boa hora pra pesar a mao?

Como disse o sabotag3x, eu, se fosse eu, acho que seria boa hora de pesar a mão e deixar quietinho esperando uma ATH nova, quem sabe (se chegar a aATH novamente óbvio)
Mas fico meio assim de indicar para alguém novato em cripto



44. Post 66947147 (unedited backup) (by NotATether) (scraped on Thu Jul 16 15:39:01 CEST 2026) in [ANN] BitMixList.com - Bitcoin Mixer List:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 10:54:58 AM
SimpleX is the most appropriate and private way of communication that I know of, and it is used by a lot of crypto users...

I know some good projects that uses or used it in the past.

Sounds like a good idea. I'll do this.



I'm also going to scan Bits.media forum and check for any good services that don't have a presence here.



45. Post 66947061 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Thu Jul 16 15:07:50 CEST 2026) in [ANN] bitcoindata.science:

Quote from: examplens on Today at 12:21:52 PM
It doesn't work quite like that. This is almost a myth, which leads dozens of websites to have this type of banner, even when it is not necessary.

If a website does not automatically access user cookie information, nor track activity, nor store user analytics data, then this type of banner is unnecessary.
EU bureaucracy is heavy shit. I have seen so many illogical, myth-driven decisions that nothing surprises me. Inserting a few lines of text disclaiming responsibility is not a big deal if it can be considered in accordance with the regulations.

I understand. But in this case, if there really is no tracking, you're unlikely to have any problems.

I would even say that it could create the wrong idea in the project, having that kind of message. Visitors might get the impression that the site is tracking people when it isn't. That's even worse.

Not to mention how annoying this type of banner is, as it serves zero purpose.

In this specific case, I think Bitmover can rest assured that it won't have any problems because it doesn't have that banner, as long as it doesn't do any tracking.



46. Post 66946691 (unedited backup) (by zasad@) (scraped on Thu Jul 16 13:04:19 CEST 2026) in CCE.Cash is an instant, low-fee, no-KYC cryptocurrency exchanger:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 10:30:54 AM
Not all but most of them are. bitmover gave a few examples of the opposite.

People get confused because we have been programmed to divide crypto exchanges into two categories: they are either centralized or decentralized. When people hear Binance, KuCoin, etc., they will never make a mistake in which group those brands belong to. Chances are that they have also had some experience using such platforms. Instant swap platforms work differently. You don't get those traditional accounts you see on CEXs, so people get confused and wrongly believe that they must therefore belong to the decentralized group of exchanges.
I think most people associate it with the fact whether registration is mandatory or not, custodial or non-custodial, whether they can use the exchange wallet as a regular wallet (which is completely wrong). For example, no one will give a CCE.Cash deposit address to receive a signature payout.  Smiley
For Binance, Kucoin, and the like, I would rather say they are trading platforms

Yeah, in the end with have decentralized exchanges which are not instant, such as Bisq (maybe hyperliquid, if you consider it decentralized). These exchanges are similar to traditional exchanges, with depoiti/withdrawls, etc

And also decentralized instant exchanges, like the ones I mentioned earlier (uniswap, jupiter, sushiswap..)
Decentralized exchanges like Uniswap have already introduced KYC capabilities in Uniswap v4.
This is implemented via the "Hooks" mechanism, allowing a developer to create a liquidity pool and attach a "KYC hook" to it. This hook checks whether the user holds a specific KYC-NFT verification token in their wallet - a token obtained after completing the KYC process through a third-party service. I haven't encountered this in practice yet, but it will likely be implemented soon.



47. Post 66946517 (unedited backup) (by examplens) (scraped on Thu Jul 16 12:06:43 CEST 2026) in CCE.Cash is an instant, low-fee, no-KYC cryptocurrency exchanger:

Quote from: Pmalek on Today at 06:55:04 AM
Not all but most of them are. bitmover gave a few examples of the opposite.

People get confused because we have been programmed to divide crypto exchanges into two categories: they are either centralized or decentralized. When people hear Binance, KuCoin, etc., they will never make a mistake in which group those brands belong to. Chances are that they have also had some experience using such platforms. Instant swap platforms work differently. You don't get those traditional accounts you see on CEXs, so people get confused and wrongly believe that they must therefore belong to the decentralized group of exchanges.
I think most people associate it with the fact whether registration is mandatory or not, custodial or non-custodial, whether they can use the exchange wallet as a regular wallet (which is completely wrong). For example, no one will give a CCE.Cash deposit address to receive a signature payout.  Smiley
For Binance, Kucoin, and the like, I would rather say they are trading platforms



48. Post 66946453 (unedited backup) (by DEX.fo_off) (scraped on Thu Jul 16 11:38:37 CEST 2026) in DEX.fo — Automatic Crypto Exchange | No KYC/AML | BTC ETH XMR LTC DAI USDT | :

@Ultegra134

You captured the actual issue perfectly — the first automated acknowledgment ("we got your message, working on it") does more for user experience than a fast final answer with no interim response. Silence during waiting is what generates panic, not the wait itself. We're looking at automating that first-touch acknowledgment so it lands consistently regardless of team load. Thanks for continuing to push on this.

Also — appreciate the second review below. Chain mode running smoothly under load is exactly what we design for. Fast mode availability for USDT-BTC depends on reserves in the moment; when Fast is back consistently across all pairs, that limitation goes away. Working on it.


@hosemary

On the on-chain proof-of-reserves — you're right, at our scale it's genuinely hard to implement cleanly. The moment we publish a set of addresses claiming "this is our reserves," we've published targeting information plus the aforementioned honeypot risk. Services that do full on-chain proof-of-reserves usually either aggregate into fewer wallets (concentrating risk) or use zero-knowledge proofs (which are technically expensive to set up and verify). Both are on the horizon for our roadmap but not something we can flip on this quarter.

The trade-off in the meantime — forum escrow + PGP-signed guarantees from independent parties + operational track record over time. Not perfect, but a reasonable stack.


@MarryWithBTC

Fair take across the board. The prize scaling from $30 to $50 to $100 mirrors the thread's activity growth honestly — more engagement, better contests. Credit to Peanutswar for driving that consistently.

On the escrow suggestion — Trévoid's response below covers the practical side. Their escrow is a limited-capacity arrangement they extend selectively, not a service they scale up. That's actually a feature, not a bug: if they took on every request, the guarantee would mean less. We're grateful they extended it to us; adding more services would dilute what makes their word carry weight.


@bitmover

Well-summarized on the Exploit escrow dynamic — it's basically the forum administration acting as a trusted third party specifically because their reputation is worth far more than the escrow itself. Skin in the game at multiple layers.

On PGP-signed statements as a general reputation feature on sites — noted. Something we can look at implementing on our /reputation page: rotating PGP-signed status updates that any user can verify with our public key. Would make ongoing status claims (like "site status normal," "no outstanding disputes," etc.) independently verifiable rather than just published text.


@hosemary (post 361)

Both points are constructive and both are on our list. The OP does need refreshing — the asset list is outdated (still shows DAI which we removed), and there's no compact summary of the discussion topics that keep repeating. We'll batch these updates:

— Updated coin list: BTC, ETH, XMR, LTC, USDT, USDC
— Escrow summary (1 BTC on Exploit.in + 6.2 XMR via Trévoid)
— PGP infrastructure (support signing + per-order signing)
— Refund address explanation with the "same coin you send FROM" framing
— Chain vs Fast mode mechanics
— Coming soon: Solana, BSC/BNB
— FAQ links for the most-repeated questions

The idea is exactly what you said — new users read the OP first and if it's comprehensive, they don't need to trawl 20+ pages to find answers already given. Should reduce the repetitive questions and let the thread focus on actual new discussion.


@MarryWithBTC (post 362)

"Set reminder, don't miss unless the operator says no" 😅 — sound approach.


@Trévoid

Fully understand the position. Extending guarantees is a limited resource that only carries weight because it's used carefully. We appreciate the trust you extended to us — and respect the boundary you keep for it. Both matter.


@dwyane36

Understood on the exotic/underserved pair interest. RUNE-BTC and similar emerging Layer 1 pairs are interesting from a demand standpoint, but the liquidity constraints on smaller L1 assets make them tricky to route reliably in Chain mode without wide spreads. We evaluate them individually as their liquidity ecosystem matures.

The general logic — we'll add pairs when we can offer them cleanly (reasonable spread, reliable settlement, no dead-ends on refund). Not just when they're asked for. Better to say "not yet" than to add a pair that quietly fails 30% of the time.


@AnybodyElse

Thanks for the swap report and the honest $150 first test — 27 minutes on Chain mode USDT (ERC-20) → BTC is a solid result. Glad the experience landed well.

On Fast mode for USDT → BTC specifically — it comes and goes depending on our BTC reserves at that specific moment. When Fast is available for that pair, the swap is instant post-confirmation. Right now Fast is in a broader rework to make it consistent across pairs — when that lands, "sometimes available, sometimes not" won't be the answer anymore.


@Ultegra134 (post 366)

Fair on the status messaging inside the UI during longer swaps — this ties directly to the point in your earlier post. A "currently routing through liquidity pool, expected 15-20 min remaining" indicator (or similar) during longer flows would help users understand what's happening instead of just watching a spinner. Adding to the UX list along with the refund field improvements.

Thanks again for the multi-angle feedback — you're pointing at real friction, not hypothetical.



DEX.fo — No KYC. No AML. No registration.




49. Post 66946123 (unedited backup) (by Pmalek) (scraped on Thu Jul 16 08:55:07 CEST 2026) in CCE.Cash is an instant, low-fee, no-KYC cryptocurrency exchanger:

Quote from: examplens on July 15, 2026, 09:53:02 AM
I would also add that all instant exchanges are also centralized platforms. I don't know why many confuse that.
Not all but most of them are. bitmover gave a few examples of the opposite.

People get confused because we have been programmed to divide crypto exchanges into two categories: they are either centralized or decentralized. When people hear Binance, KuCoin, etc., they will never make a mistake in which group those brands belong to. Chances are that they have also had some experience using such platforms. Instant swap platforms work differently. You don't get those traditional accounts you see on CEXs, so people get confused and wrongly believe that they must therefore belong to the decentralized group of exchanges.



50. Post 66945860 (unedited backup) (by sabotag3x) (scraped on Thu Jul 16 06:03:13 CEST 2026) in Bip110 - A polémica :

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 01:48:20 AM
Quem vota são os miners, tem que ver o posicionamento das pools, não dos influencers do twitter Cheesy

Seguidor nessa hora não vale nada, tem que ver o hashrate.

O Saylor tb não saberia dizer da relevância, assim como da blackrock. Não é proof of stake rsrs

Minerador vai apontar o hashrate para onde estiver o dinheiro, tanto faz se for BTC, BCH ou "Bitcoin Knots" (sei lá o nome que vão dar pra essa moeda, caso surgir).. no fim quem manda é o mercado.. que é influenciado.. então, influenciadores tem relevância.. o problema é que o pessoal do BIP-110 não está influenciando quase ninguém.

Se você está falando sobre a sinalização dos mineradores.. a galera do BIP-110 vai empurrar isso de qualquer jeito, com ou sem apoio, como você pode ver abaixo:

Quote from: https://x.com/LukeDashjr/status/2074281153553371560
Muito provavelmente, o BIP110 será ativado sem problemas e não haverá divisão da cadeia. Eles sequer propuseram um fork de contraposição até agora. [...] Os mineradores não decidem o protocolo. Em agosto, a sinalização se tornará obrigatória; caso contrário, eles perderão todas as recompensas por bloco. Já vimos isso ser comprovado com o BIP148. E, ao contrário daquela ocasião, desta vez os mineradores não têm motivos para tentar atacar a rede.

Os caras estão bem doidos com esse BIP ai Shocked



51. Post 66945588 (unedited backup) (by BitMaxz) (scraped on Thu Jul 16 01:27:49 CEST 2026) in Why did AI pass Bitcoin in energy spending?:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 09:18:21 PM
Maybe you need to use more AI. It really helps in everything.

Basically all software and websites are written with AI help (or entirely written by AI).
Scientists are using it in their researches.
Every job in offices now can increase their productivity with AI.

Helps translating,  create videos, write articles, create images, works in excel sheets, etc.. the list is endless of things AI is already doing.

AI is very useful nowadays. Look at those who advertise on YouTube and Facebook; most of them are AI-generated. They are no longer hiring an artist or popular vlogger to promote their product; instead, they hire someone who can do AI-generated videos because it is way cheaper than hiring an artist or a vlogger, and the good thing is they can finish the service almost immediately and be ready to start a campaign ad.

This AI honestly already existed before the hype. I am using a few of them to auto-generate some feeds to my social media accounts with a little change to the content before they post it to all of my social media accounts. It's for SEO and learning purposes before promoting my own site without spending.
We are in the AI era, and we see almost every month there is a new project related to AI. Even Google nowadays is slowly accepting AI-generated content on blogs, even though they were against it before.



52. Post 66945178 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Wed Jul 15 23:28:01 CEST 2026) in Três possíveis motivos da estagnação do Bitcoin:

Quote from: sabotag3x on Today at 07:18:06 PM
Agora as pessoas não precisam comprar mais memecoins.. podem se expor a algo mais interessante Tongue

Esse é um bom ponto.

Talvez o que aprenderam com essas negociações sem sentido em memecoins, permitiu agora estarem a expor-se a algo mais interessante e realista.



Quote from: bitmover on Today at 08:36:16 PM
Acho que o dinheiro de risco e especulação esta todo em AI e tecnologia agora. E tiraram do btc.

O ponto é perceber se o Bitcoin vai voltar ser o ponto de risco, quando essa onda do IA abrandar.



53. Post 66945156 (unedited backup) (by Alphakilo) (scraped on Wed Jul 15 23:24:13 CEST 2026) in Why did AI pass Bitcoin in energy spending?:

Quote from: PrivacyG on Today at 09:09:44 PM
'AI is necessary!'  So it does not matter if the world burns now because it is some thing we definitely can not live with out!

I love bitcoin. I think it is more than a decentralized currency, it is a public good.

But AI can be a lot more than that. AI can change the world. It is worth investing all possible energy at it, everyone is using it everywhere.

Bitcoin is a much older technology and AI is much more used
AI has changed even Bitcoin Talk, now that we have so many shit posters using it to write their B S!

What has AI done so particularly incredible?  AI drink flavors?  Deep fakes?  Not being able to tell reality from fiction?  Using Chat GPT for legal advice?  The amazing WhatsApp feature where your conversations are beautifully summarized by AI?

I admit there are interesting things AI can do but everyone is using it everywhere because you have no choice considering EVEN OVENS ARE NOW 'POWERED BY AI'!
Your expression is quite the hard truth and what got me here is the last phrase.' even ovens are now powered by AI'. I would certainly love to use an oven, but you hit the point square on.

The growth of AI is more like an arms race to me because of its many uses and integration that bides time, enhances productivity and efficiency. It's in every sector and a country that owns control over AI ultimately rules the world, not Bitcoin that is decentralized, belongs to everyone, threatens the traditional monetary system and is hardly controlled nor truly makes one country more powerful than the other.

AI definitely uses more energy than Bitcoin systems ever could but the government is willing to turn a blind eye to this seeing the above reasons I spoke on, but let's see how long it would take for energy crisis to start and how AI gets to summount some of the hurdles that may arise in a foreseeable future where the effects starts to mount.




54. Post 66945077 (unedited backup) (by PrivacyG) (scraped on Wed Jul 15 23:09:43 CEST 2026) in Why did AI pass Bitcoin in energy spending?:

'AI is necessary!'  So it does not matter if the world burns now because it is some thing we definitely can not live with out!

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 08:51:16 PM
I love bitcoin. I think it is more than a decentralized currency, it is a public good.

But AI can be a lot more than that. AI can change the world. It is worth investing all possible energy at it, everyone is using it everywhere.

Bitcoin is a much older technology and AI is much more used
AI has changed even Bitcoin Talk, now that we have so many shit posters using it to write their B S!

What has AI done so particularly incredible?  AI drink flavors?  Deep fakes?  Not being able to tell reality from fiction?  Using Chat GPT for legal advice?  The amazing WhatsApp feature where your conversations are beautifully summarized by AI?

I admit there are interesting things AI can do but everyone is using it everywhere because you have no choice considering EVEN OVENS ARE NOW 'POWERED BY AI'!



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56. Post 66941689 (unedited backup) (by Dogedegen) (scraped on Tue Jul 14 23:34:43 CEST 2026) in Inflation the biggest problem of modern the era.:

Quote from: WillyAp on July 13, 2026, 10:32:47 PM
I don't agree.
There are ways to escape inflation, even if you  make your money with a bread and butter job you can escape it.
Only if you don't become active you are victim to outer circunstancies..
How exactly do you mean with this? Inflation per definition is not that can be escaped, so even if you went into something like Bitcoin fully you are still affected by inflation because the prices of everything that you need are rising all the time. If you mean something else like earning more than inflation, then that is possible but any kind of passive income story has its own risk. It is not like for example now you rent out a house or apartment and there are no issues are you are earning enough forever. This is the case when you have high inflation even in the best countries which is the case these days, it is an endless fight for making enough money for the future.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 12:37:29 AM
I don't agree.
There are ways to escape inflation, even if you  make your money with a bread and butter job you can escape it.
Only if you don't become active you are victim to outer circunstancies..

Inflation destroys everything. Living 3-5% anual inflation is easy, and that is not the problem. The problem are higher inflation rates over decades.

I grew up in country with 80-100% inflation per month. That is crazy, and economy is destroyed. Nobody knows how much anything costs, sometimes a person gets a good job and it becomes bad quite quickly and might become good again.
While I emphasize with your situation and understand the extremity of your example, I would not say that living with 5% annual inflation is easy. Easy relative to your case? Yeah that is for sure, but it is not that easy overall. I remember a long time ago you could feed a whole family for a month with $200 in the developed world, and in those years in the less developed one it must have been even less. In 2 decades or so the cost has increased 5 times or more, there are differences depending on where people are. Even in the last few years the cost has easily increased by 50%, it does not matter what official inflation data lies are given. If you track your grocery spending historically and there are no big changes in where you live or what you buy, you can get better data yourself that will be more accurate. Inflation is a huge problem, and is a source of many issues that we have these days.