and if you are winning your bets and getting cash back as a bonus its win, win!

You gotta remember providing a gambling service or platform is extremely competitive
so I think its essential fir every platform to offer some form of cash back, bonuses,
competition structure to attract new clients and keep existing clients engaged. I think
every business does some form of that type of marketing.

yeah after i thought about it i was more careful in placing bets so i'm now playing it safe on aviator, besides there are no interesting matches today, i just withdrew the remaining btc in my account, how long does it usually take to process? usually i withdraw usdt and it's processed quickly

Those are not necessarily bad ideas in regards to possible negative scenarios that could play out, even though I think that using the 200-WMA as a reference might stand on more solid grounding.

For sure, 2022 was a bit unique when we analyze in terms of the 200-WMA, and prior to 2022, all of the earlier dips that either touched upon the 200-WMA or broke below it, they did not break below it for very long periods of time, even though there might have had been decently long periods of time (such as most of 2015 - perhaps 9-ish months) that the BTC price was within about 15% of the 200-Week moving average.

To me, it seems that a unique aspect of the 2022 to 2023 period was that the BTC spot price spent a lot of time below the 200-WMA, which probably could be added up to about 16 months from June 2022 to late October 2023, and of course, with the deepest dip in November 2022 when the BTC price dropped down to $15,479, which was about 35% below the 200-WMA.

Of course, we have capital that is likely wanting to really discourage retail coiners from holding their coin (and perhaps even some desperation involved), so there well could be attempts to try to get the BTC price to go even lower than the 2022-2023 levels (relative to the 200-WMA).  Of course, the existence of such desperate desires from status quo financial incumbents and perhaps governments too does not guarantee that they will be successful in being able to achieve such levels of downity... .even though they may well be making such ongong efforts to acheive such high levels of negativity that could end up shaking more and more retail BTC holders from their coins.

And, right now 35% below the current 200-WMA is in the ballpark of just below $39k.

Of course on a personal level, I continue to consider those kinds of possibilities as periods to just keep buying bitcoin and to avoid selling much of the bitcoin, except maybe just in cases in which the selling amounts would be minimal to pay for needs and/or wants that are based on already having enough or more than enough coins (and being in sustainable withdrawal status - even though my own sustainable withdrawal status tools reduces the quantity of BTC that could be eligible for selling in the event that the BTC price goes to such possible low levels below the 200-WMA).


Hahahahaha

That is another way of putting it.  "Numerology."    It seems that sometimes guys come up with some quite outrageous ideas regarding scenarios that they consider to be plausible..  similar to some of the guys who come up with scenarios that relate to the movements of astrological bodies in the sky... 


It is sloppy thinking to throw up your hands and proclaim that "all theories are equal to all other theories," especially since some theories are stronger than other theories... and surely many of us have ballpark ideas in regards to what will be the state of affairs (relative to bitcoin) on March 1, 2026, March 1, 2027, March 1, 2029, March 1, 2032, March 1, 2035, March 1, 2040, to the extent to which any of the particular dates matter or the dates in between those or even to attempt to consider directionally where BTC might be (relative to the 200-WMA, for example).


Bullshit.

Some "guesses," to the extent that they are guesses are better than others, even if minority scenarios might end up playing out.


If "all guesses" are supposedly equal, according to your own point of view, then why the fuck are your anticipated BTC price ranges so narrow for March, May and July?

You seem to be contradicting your own claims of equality in there?  Why don't you have numbers lower than $57k?  or numbers higher than $102k?  You seem to be presuming (even from your own framing of the matter) that some numbers are more likely than others, no?


I appreciate your level of expressed confidence, homer.

You did not even put any disclaimers and/or qualifiers in there.

It's like you were there.

Michael?  Is that you?


Truly would be a miracle, at this point...


Don't do it, Gachapin!!!!!!!!!!!


It is not worth it.


Preparation is both financial and mental, and frequently I have proclaimed that many folks will become much more solid in psychological ways when they have put their finances in a good place... which of course is likely to be a balanced and individually tailored place, so for example if someone is still pretty new to bitcoin, then he likely is going to have to spend several years just building his bitcoin stake, unless he has abilities to frontload his investment. 

At the same time, bitcoin newbies should not take for granted that they will continue to be able to buy bitcoin at current prices and/or lower prices for extended periods of time, so in that regard, it tends to be a good cashflow management practice to ongoingly attempt to prepare yourself both financially and mentally for BTC prices that could go in either direction.. especially if you are attempting to project 4-ish years or more into the future.


That is why "we" (royal perhaps?) retain decently higher aspirations, which include sometimes treating our lil selfies, from time to time, by sometimes sneaking in some higher quality ingredients into our noodles... and you might not even need to tell anyone from where you got such "higher quality ingredients" that cause the noodles to have had become much more tolerable.  I will say that there are even some guys who will substitute out the noodles while proclaiming themselves to still be "eating noodles" - sometimes referred to as "don't ask, don't tell."

#justsaying

It's not working (in Tor browser). The button is rotating for a while, then stops.

Same situation with me. Bc.game was restricted to access but we have our own dedicated mirror link for my country which I can access the casino without the need to use VPN.

It’s tricky and I don’t know why I’m not allowed to use the bc.game while my country is not restricted and we have different mirror link.

Is this mirror link use for legality purposes on this case?

I tried to use the Giveaway Manager to select a random username, but the result isn't showing (even though the Target Block was reached about 2 hours ago).
Can you check why it doesn't work?

da unser Lafu momentan leider nicht die zeit hat, uns hier in diesem thema aktuell zu halten, möchte ich ihn etwas unter die arme greifen und euch das update für den monat februar veröffentlichen
im februar waren 113 user berechtigt in die dt-liste mit aufgenommen zu werden:

alte dt1-liste:

neue dt1-liste:

aus unserem deutschsprachigen bereich sind insgesamt 10 leute vertreten: Buchi-88, willi9974, Real-Duke, Lafu, polymerbit, Kryptowerk, mole0815, Lakai01, efialtis und bullrun2024bro
hier ist nochmal der original beitrag von theymos: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5117330.msg66361122#msg66361122

wer genau rausgeflogen ist und wer dafür neu aufgenommen wurde, dies könnt ihr aus dieser liste entnehmen:

$150,000.00 (dreaming, pending editing)

I choose: wait for block 936200

A questão é que a maioria das ferramentas só analisam o DCA com base na rentabilidade, indicando se ganha ou perde. A tua ferramenta, podia analisar quando BTC se compra com o mesmo valor. Ou seja, muda a ideia de ganhar ou perder em fiat, com base no valor do BTC; para quanto se ganha ou perde em BTC com essa valorização.

Em relação a do endereço, pode ser util... mas já "foge do bitcoin".

Although the context is different because in my country gambling is illegal (but you can still play because the rules are not too strict for some reason) but I do agree because there can be some problems that we cannot avoid so I also do some games with nominal and small deposits.

But indeed I apply this to all sites not only on BC.Game because as long as I gamble with the demands of the government that still makes this illegal then any possibility can occur, not only from the site but pressure from the government because at any time I could not be able to site because of the government. But when the nominal is small I am not a problem if the worst happens and at least for now I can still gamble.

I see, that’s good to hear. The reason you’re using a mirror is probably because even though gambling isn’t totally banned in Brazil, casinos still need a proper license to be considered legal. And as far as I know, BC.Game doesn’t really have a local license there, they’re operating internationally under an offshore license.

So I guess you made the right decision by only using a small amount to minimize the risk. You never really know, maybe you’ll get lucky in the long run and hit something big like $10k or more. Hopefully, there won’t be any problems when that time comes.

You did not really describe "basic knowledge" very well, and why a person cannot get started without having the basic knowledge that you mention.  How much is enough on each of the categories, since they seem like they could be quite broadly interpreted and cause a person several weeks and/or months before even getting started. 

Wouldn't you want to make sure that you don't lose the emphasis on getting started?  and then there is a lot of variation with each person in terms of their assessment of their 9 personal informational matters, yet they don't need to really know any of their individual factors in detail before staring investing in bitcoin except whether they have discretionary income and maybe having some common sense that would contribute towards their starting out slow rather than rushing in, even though they are still getting started investing in bitcoin right away. .and maybe they are also getting started in strengthening their cashflow management practice right away, too? 


I think that whenever anyone starts to articulate vague requirements beyond having discretionary income and common sense, then they are inviting delay.. and there is almost no one who actually needs to delay as long as he has discretionary income and common sense, and they can merely adjust the amount that they start to put in based on their level of comfort, whether that is $100, $10 or some other starting amount, that they might repeat that same initial amount 1 week later.


Still cashflow management amounts to whether a guy has discretionary income or not and if he has enough in order to justify putting some of it into bitcoin.  If a guy is not sure about whether he has enough discretionary incomes or not, then he might have to spend sometime assessing that - within his own common sense determinations.  There are some guys who have a pretty steady income and pretty steady expenses, so they might not have to spend very much time figuring out their budget, but they are other guys who have income levels all over the place and maybe they never really thought about cashflow management previously.. .and I agree the other factor might relate to how quickly they learn, yet I would imagine that a lot of folks learn more quickly if they have had some related experiences, so when the put matters into experiential ways, they are likely going to learn faster and with more applicability towards tailorizing what they are doing to their own circumstances.


I would imagine that each month a guy might have some discretionary funds, so then he might consider whether he can invest into bitcoin every week based on when his income is coming in and when his expenses are due.  Yet each week, he might be faced with how much he wants to invest, versus save versus use for discretionary consumption.  If he had not thought about these matters previously, he can work out the details as he goes as long as he can ballparkedly determine that he has discretionary funds.. so then if he has a general ballpark idea that he has $100 every week, yet he is not 100% sure, he might start with $30 per week and then observe his cashflow situation with more detail and in light with stashing away part of those funds (in the case of hs bitcoin allocated amounts) for 4-10 years or longer.


Even though the title of the thread can be confusing, since there is a push to buy the dip, yet it seems that OP had mostly meant his posting ideas within an investing rather than trading context.   

So we are not equally considering whether trading is a good idea or not, and even your presumption that "trading can bring consistent profits" seems a bit likely you are trying to advocate for trading as if trading were a good idea or reasonable approach, when it isn't even if it were to be on topic in this thread..   


If a guy has a goal of accumulating bitcoin, and he sells some coins with anticipation that he might be able to buy back cheaper, then he has transitioned himself into waiting rather than ongoingly buying.

Sure there could be situations where he is able to buy back cheaper, yet if his goals are for the long term, such as 10 years or longer, then it becomes hard to appreciate why he wants to interfere with his progress of ongoingly buying bitcoin... since instead of selling, he could just keep ongoingly buy.. and stay focused on his goal, which is presumptively to attempt to accumulate as much bitcoin as he can, and sure he would like to buy them cheaper, if possible, yet it is just very diffcilt to know when the BTC price is going to go down.

For me it seems like a distraction from the overall mission, even though so many guys are lured into the idea of selling higher and buying back cheaper so that they can get more coins without having to add more capital to their bitcoin investment.


You still have a problem when you proclaim some certain basic knowledge is needed without putting some parameters on what that knowledge is and why is your need for that knowledge delaying you from getting started investing in bitcoin.  I don't buy that there is some need for basic knowledge, since I presume 97.5% or mored of folks have enough common sense that they can get started and just figure out their starting position size as long as they have discretionary funds.


If you are describing your goals as profits and considering the goals of both traders and investors in terms of profits, you seem to be trying to frame bitcoin investment within a trading framework.

If you have spent 10 years or more building up your bitcoin holdings, then why would you give very many shits about whether your holdings were 50% profits or 250% profits or 1,000x profits or some other number?

Your main concern would likely be regarding the extent to which your bitcoin holdings are enough to accomplish your various needs, such as making monthly withdrawals from it or something like that

So right now if you had a goal of wanting to cash out $80k per year, then you want to make sure that your bitcoin holdings are of a certain size, such as 13.7625 BTC or greater..  Sure if you have more bitcoin then that is even better since you would have a cushion of extra bitcoin, yet you would be thinking about your bitcoin stash in terms of how many you have and how much income it would be able to generate rather than how much profits (if any) that it has.

bitmover is from Brazil.

I don't use Stake but @Pmalek tested IP bans on some casinos like if they have a nation in restricted area list, will they actually ban IPs from that nation.

He tested and got this result, with Stake did exactly what they wrote in ToS.
Which casinos have IP blocks in place for restricted countries?
It's true with US, UK, France, but perhaps Pmalek did not test all nations.

i bet on the playstyle too. i think they have patterns they watch after, and if you go by them - you get a check for yourself..

Are you from India? If yes, then your statement actually makes sense, especially for people who are having trouble with gambling in a country where it’s illegal.

But if you’re not from a country where gambling is banned, then I agree with you.
With amounts in that range, they probably won’t even bother triggering KYC.

I didn't trigger KYC as well, and I had wins & withdrawals much higher than $50. So I think that TopTort is right, playstyle is important... It's how they catch abusers, especially those who just claim free stuff. There are patterns, some people are doing the same things, playing the same games with a similar style, just to wager to complete requirements and withdraw. I am sure they monitor everything, something trigger automatic check that leads to a manual review... and there you go.

I believe KYC check triggers mostly randomly. There are people who receive request to pass it even if they only use bonus or made a tiny deposit. I think request to pass KYC depends more not from amount you have used to play but from playstyle. Or it is very individual.

About Sanitough case - if they let you register, then casino close eyes on fact that gambling is illegal in country.

 

Propõem, para que seja aprovado no parlamento. Ou seja, propõem internamente, não ao povo. 





Já esta a pensar em algumas alternativas? 

Acho que essa analise esta apenas a olhar para a rentabilidade. Mas, a rentabilidade só se consegue medir realmente quando se decide vender.

Agora, o que esse indicador diz é que com o mesmo valor investido mensalmente, vai conseguir juntar +20% de BTC do que juntavas antes.
Então, basta a coisa virar que dás um salto siginificativo.


@bitmover podias colocar uma ferramenta destas no teu site. Já tens uma de vendas, crias uma para compras. 

Following this stat you could see that their performance is actually low which needs more efforts, i know that they can't be like Nigeria or Russian but they should be that active putting more efforts only this could enable theymos to create their own separate local board.
To be frank, I am being marveled with the result of Nigerian how they have spontaneously taken over the Russian LB.

good call on making a single thread for this because seeing so many topics complaining about fees everywhere gets old fast. that difficulty adjustment you mentioned is key, if blocks start coming in slower we are definitely going to see fees mooning again. hope someone actually builds that fee bot, would be super helpful to stop guessing when its cheap to move some sats.

Belo estudo, porém apesar de parecer muito, 2 anos não é nem médio prazo. 

Somando agora que teremos imposto sobre trânsito, imposto sobre estacionamento, imposto de ruído e IOF em transações de BTC acima de 10k BRL, o caminho é o Paraguay.

Lembro que o Cerize chegou a comprar Bitcoin no meio dessa aposta.. falou que era "melhor estar errado do que perder"..

Isso quando o Bitcoin estava a R$ 415.000 no final de outubro (hoje está em R$ 356.000).. será que vendeu no meio do caminho? ou está sofrendo junto?

Fonte: https://livecoins.com.br/melhor-ganhar-dinheiro-que-estar-certo-diz-critico-do-bitcoin-apos-comprar-a-moeda-digital/


Bitcoin está muito mal.. essa semana estava olhando como está a estratégia DCA, considerada a mais segura de todas..

Quem investiu mensalmente nos últimos 2 anos está com cerca de 20% de prejuízo devido a recente queda:


Fonte: https://mercadocripto.livecoins.com.br/DCA

Se subir para 4 anos, a história muda bastante. fica com 73,3% no positivo (18,3% ao ano)

As vezes acontece... até com varias semanas e com garantias.

No final, é não ficar a pensar muito nisso. Porque como o bitmover costuma dizer: é um privilegio recebermos por fazer posts aqui no fórum.

Holding bitcoin for 10 years is not a yardstick to sell all your bitcoin. Even though every investor has the right to take any decision about what to do with his bitcoin but then, there's practically no good reason (except for emergency situation that has exceeded the emergency funds or backup funds) for a person who is still in active service to sell off his entire bitcoin just because he has reached 10 years. Within the ten years, you have taken over 4 to 8 or more years to accumulate, When you hold more you can have better chances of making profit.

An investor that started his accumulation at 30 years, after 10 years, he is 40 years. Will he sell off his bitcoin at 40 years?? I don't think it's a good idea because bitcoin can be kept until after retirement before he can start selling.

Again, if he thinks that he has reached over accumulation that fast and feels he has much money, after many years of investment, if he must withdraw, he doesn't need to sell everything. He can use this method of sustainable withdrawal simulation and spread his bitcoin withdrawal over a longer period of time so that he won't sell it once and become like people who have not invested in bitcoin before.

Yes, that's right, of course, sorry, I didn't express myself clearly.

What I meant was that you can't influence the result yourself and therefore have to rely on your own luck to win something. There's no question that some tips make more sense than others (minute 1 is less likely to win than minute 35, 25 goals are more likely than 500, etc.).

But you really have to be quick with these competitions, as the statistically better tips are usually taken immediately! 

My example was a guy who started selling his bitcoin in January 2011 with 1,000 bitcoin rather than a guy with 10,000 bitcoin.

I consider that it is not really that helpful to fantasize about guys from the past, even though sure we can sometimes try to imaging ways that we could manage our bitcoin holdings even for long periods and to attempt to retain wealth, even though it is helpful to have a decent bitcoin stash, and frequently we don't need outrageously large bitcoin stash sizes in order to still get a lot of advantages from managing our holdings well once we get them to a large enough size that sustainable withdrawal might become justifiable.

To be honest, I wasn't sure that there could be some techniques to get better predictions. I've participated in those contests and I thought it's based on luck alone. Hopefully, I'll give a try to your techniques and hope they might work.

I guess that might be a good choice! We all know that silver and gold will never lose their value and overtime there'll always be growth in their value, and during dumps accumulating those assets is done by most investors. Now, it's much easier for even crypto-currency users to accumulate those assets in token form.

He went on to take down the auction after 3 days. I had to read further, the story is interesting how only two people could price 10,000 bitcoin for $20 and $25 while urging him to bring down the starting price to $30.

He is renowned for smoking too hard and some comments suggest the weed is the reason for taking down the auction. Bitcoin has been through several stages of growth and time has played a serious role in this success.

Based on your withdrawal hints, if he is left with 476 bitcoin now, he must be an elite citizen of Germany right now.

I would think that a guy trying to auction 10k bitcoin in 2009 or 2010 would have had more than those 10k bitcoin, yet sure it is possible that some guys ended up selling all of their bitcoin - and  surely if he even kept 1,000 and he sold 10% of his stash each year starting from January 2011, then he would have had sold a bit over half of his coins, so he would still have right around 476 bitcoin right now.  You can plug in the numbers and see for yourself in the sustainable withdrawal simulation.

Great perspective. Since the point is they should not hold blindly like they are just buying Bitcoin then forget about it, since its good that they have plans to follow. There are really times that we are feel tempted to sell our Bitcoins, but better they should not get distracted on short term movements they see on the market.

Having patience and think about stick on their plans really matter than any other else out there. If they reach their targets and think about stopping they can actually wait until they reach on levels that can support their withdrawal targets or goal. Everything will come if they are well discipline then know their purpose or reasons on why they are holding. Everything they do for long time will provably rewarding especially when they already hit their goals and start selling.

I doubt that we are just necessarily holding bitcoin for the mere sake of it, so there likely could be times that we start to get to our target amount, yet if we had been continuously buying, then we might not transition from buying into selling right away.  So there might be some time between the time that we are still buying and when we transition into selling, so if you start to sell early, then what is the reason?  Why can't you wait?

I understand if we had been buying bitcoin for 4-6 years, then we might witness all kinds of BTC price moves.  Some of the BTC price moves can tempt us into selling some or to stop in our accumulating, or maybe we are starting to feel that we are not getting very many bitcoin for any new investment that we make, so it starts to feel like it is not worth it to keep putting money into bitcoin and we are not meaningfully increasing the amount of BTC as compared with our earlier years of investing into it.

Yet, if we had reached a certain quantity of bitcoin, and we are tired of adding to it, we are not necessarily holding for the sake of it, yet we might be holding until the value reaches a certain level so that we might start to withdraw in accordance with sustainable withdrawal calculations that we might have arrived at.

So for example a guy who had been accumulating bitcoin for nearly 10 years since 2016 might find himself with right around 9.5 BTC, and he told himself that he would ONLY start to cash out from his bitcoin, once the 200-WMA valuation is enough to support an $80k per year income. So then he looks at the website or he does a calculation, and he sees that right now, it takes at least 13.777 BTC to support an $80k per year income, and right now 9.5 BTC will ONLY support a $55k per year income...

Since the 200-WMA is ongoingly going up (and he can see that on the fuck you status chart), he figures that if he does not accumulate any more bitcoin, then 9.5 bitcoin would still support an $80k per year income starting in about late 2027, so it should not take too long for him to transition into being able to sell some of his bitcoin, even if he does not build his BTC stash any greater than it is right now.


He does not need to go straight from $30 per week to $100 per week.  Of course, maybe he does learn quickly and get comfortable quickly... but he does not have to learn quickly or get comfortable quickly.  He can go at his own pace, and if he is investing he becomes more motivated to learn more about what he is investing into.. including motivated to figure out his cashflow so that he would be able to invest more based on his learning and increased comfort and without feeling worried about it.

Maybe I can flesh out and example of someone who might be ONLY increasing his investment amount as he learns rather than falling into FOMO behaviors.  So many guys consider the justification to get started investing right away in bitcoin as if it were based on FOMO, when I think that we should be able to control our emotions.. so that largely we are getting ourselves set up to be able to invest more and more into bitcoin, yet we don't need to maximize our capacities.  We can invest at our  pace and at our comfort and without falling into FOMO kinds of emotions or behaviors.

So here we go:

1) Starts out $30 per week into bitcoin and studies bitcoin and matters related to his cashflow about 2 hours per week

2) Week 3 realizes that his basic monthly expenses are about $1,000 and he has about $700 in his back up funds. He realizes that if he is going to protect his bitcoin investment then he is going to need to get his back up funds up to $3k (3 months of his expenses).  He increases his weekly bitcoin investment to $40 and starts to put $20 into his  back up funds. He continues studying bitcoin and matters related to his cashflow about 2-3 hours per week

3) Week 9 - increases his bitcoin investment to $75 per week and putting $30 per week into his back up funds

4)  after 20 weeks increases his bitcoin investment to $100 per week and his back up fund to $40 per week.

5) 9 months receives a lump sum extra amount of $5k from his employer as an unexpected bonus.  He decides to put $1,900 into his back up funds - which will bring his back up funds up to $3,300... and he decides to DCA $2,400 by putting $600 extra in his DCA over the next 4 weeks.  He decides to hang onto the remaining $700 for maybe buying on dips or just to have available.

6) 10 months he increases his DCA to $150 per week.

Sure, of course, there can be all kinds of variations in regards to how guys might accumulate bitcoin or come to feel comfortable, and part of the problem that any guy might have is if he got into bitcoin in late 2022 (for example) yet the BTC price just keeps going up the whole time, so then he ends up being punished for his not front loading his investment.  Sometimes it is better to study more diligently in order to start out investing more aggressively, yet the problem is that we can never know when we might end up having a decently large correction  or have the BTC price consolidating in a certain range for a while, so if we are holding back some of our capacity to invest, we might later feel regret, but if we are finding a reasonable pace to invest and learning as we go, then we can likely rest assured that we are investing as well as we are able to  based on our knowledge and our comfort level.

When I provide variations on your examples, I am not really disagreeing with your examples, even though I think that I still made my point that extremes do not need to be considered in order to show greatly stupendous profits that errored on the side of mostly holding and accumulating until reaching a certain coin stash size that would then allow to transition into a stage that allows more selling, yet not necessarily so much selling as to devolve into trying to trade.

I know a lot of guys just cannot get out of a trading mindset, even when they are talking about skimming off profits at various points along the way.


There were surely considerable stair-steppening upwardly in Bitcoin's price in 2013 and in 2017, so getting in prior to either of those stair-steppening periods was a great benefit.

We likely have stair-steppenings in 2021 and perhaps more in the future, yet we cannot conclude about stair-steppenings when we are still either somewhat in the middle to them or still too close to them, such as the 2021 stair-steppening that will likely show in the history books once we pass a bit more time bouncing around and finding out where we end up.


You are still talking like a trader rather than like an investor, and sure you can do what you like - even though part of my theory is that the investor can end up milking way the hell more out of their bitcoin holdings as compared with the trader.. and perhaps @Biodom is more of an investor than me, since he wants to never sell his bitcoin.. yet for practical purposes, sometimes managing our coins by something like sustainable withdrawal can also work out, even though admittedly more tax consequences (that are not likely to go away very soon).


Perhaps you are making progress to admit those kinds of things rather than being such a dick all the time, when you were proclaiming to be a BIG baller and advising people as a "professional" for the past 15 years.

I cannot say for sure if trading is going to end up working out in the future, yet guys who did not error on the side of mostly accumulating and holding were likely not to do as well as those who did.. which are shown from my examples of a guy who spent $2k to accumulate 200 bitcoin between mid-2011 and early-2013.

By the way, when I came to bitcoin in late 2013, there was already a lot of talk about hypecycles and even 4 year cycles, so cycle theory was not foreign or absent.


Oh?  It looks like I was too soon to imply your humbleness.

I don't set up "trade" ladders.  My ladders are to offset volatility and potentially prepare for down that might or might not happen, so initially in 2015 I had been selling something like 10% for every doubling, yet these days it is probably closer to less than 3%... which is likely my own problem to have had been gravitating towards lower and lower sell amounts.

Anyhow, I have had my system in place since late-ish 2015, and it is working fine, even though I had made a few mistakes from time to time.

I have not been setting up additional sell ladders that are different from various formulas that I established in 2015, even though I have been tweaking some of the formals from time to time at various points along the way and surely from time to time, I had to make some adjustments to the increments, spreads and even percentages.. in order to attempt to get to a place that i considered to be comfortable for me.

So when you were supposedly telling guys to not have trade ladders (well I don't do trade ladders) when we were going through the $40ks was that on the 1st round, or the 2nd or the 3rd time that we went through the $40ks? so far?

And what the fuck do you know about ladders?  You are presuming them to be trade ladders in my case, and I had already said that I don't trade.

Yeah we can argue about semantics, but what is the point?

Do you think that guys are selling 5% of our stash every time the BTC price goes up 20% or what do you think is happening?  Sure there can be all kinds of formals that guys can work out to be comfortable.

And what is the purpose of the ladder?  Is it to try to buy back cheaper on the drop or for what reason is the ladder in place?  Do you have any clue beyond merely thinking that everyone is trading like you or that no one has reached overaccumualtion status?  

By the way, if you reach overaccumulation status then buying more (accumulating more) has become optional.  Guys in overaccumulation status are not necessarily trying to accumulate more bitcoin.

And, who the fuck cares what you think about ladders or if the BTC price might keep going up or not.  The ladders can be arranged in ways to account for the possibility that the BTC price goes up and never, ever, ever returns back down.. The sell ladders can already account for those matters that the price does not come back down, so there can be an assumption that is built in that the money just becomes available at a certain point (whether immediately or after a certain quantity of time, such as months or even years or maybe based on subsequent price movements where it appears unlikely for the BTC price to come back down to the price that the BTC had been sold).

Several aspects of the ways that I consider ladders can be seen on my price-based post in my sustainable withdrawal thread.


Now, you sound like you are specifically talking about me.

I am thinking that if you had been more like me in your bitcoin journey then you would not have had to worry about trading, yet your lack of knowledge that you supposedly figured out in 2017 was not about how dumb you had been for trading bitcoin between 2011 to 2017, but instead, the lesson that you learned was to trade in a supposedly "smarter" way, and so perhaps you think that you got your trading all figured out?

I am pretty sure that you still would have had been better off to invest into bitcoin from 2018 until now rather than trading based on your having had supposedly figured out the cycle.  I think that I already had given you an example of where a guy would have had been at if he had been largely buying and holding since early 2018 rather than trading.

Nonetheless you are trying to proclaim that your newly discovered cycle trading approach would have had beaten such a buying and holding person?  I have my doubts.

What kind of a budget should we start with in 2018?  How many bitcoin does the guy have?  how many dollars does he have and what is the income that he has coming in?  

I am thinking that the guy has hardly any bitcoin in the beginning of 201.  Perhaps 1 or 2 bitcoin since he blew his whole wadd in 2017.

So maybe such a guy would be cash rich at that time.  I also don't know what kind of an income. Probably not a great income since the guy seems to continue to involve himself in trying to scam members.

I had already done this.  But we could have had the guy selling around 250 bitcoin in the $3k territories?  That would be $750k, 2 bitcoin and let's say some kind of a $50k-ish per year job.

Ok.  So I would suggest that the $50k job will justify buying bitcoin at about $200 per week.  We just have to think about what to do with the $750k.  Surely there would be reluctance to buy back the bitcoin since the price had gone up around 6x from the place where we sold them.  

I am not saying it is an easy problem that you put yourself in by selling way too much too soon... rather than if you had mostly just hung onto the 250 BTC and sold them at various increments and perhaps still had more than 60% of your coins by the time the 2017 top had played itself out.


My system allows selling 10% of the 200-WMA value with downward adjustments to the limits that start once the BTC price is below 25% above the 200-WMA.  

The fact that limits are there does not mean that they need to be reached... although I do have a couple of accounts that are selling no matter what within the formula.. .but yeah, around 4%.. those are largely charitable accounts... even though the beneficiaries end up getting value from the bitcoin and they may or may not end up selling.. .even if the bitcoin had ended up transferring to accounts owned by someone else.

I also don't know why I need to continue to repeat that if a guy is in overaccumulation status, then he does not need to worry about the price, even though my tools allows for extra selling when the BTC price is way higher than the 200-WMA and it lessens the withdrawal authorizations when the BTC  price goes below 25% above the 200-WMA (the formulas can be seen at the bottom of the sustainable withdrawal website).


hahahahaha.

I frequently tell people that traders will label themselves and their activities as investment and confuse the concept of investment versus trading, and surely "we" are witnessing "in the wild" a trader trying to characterize himself as an investor.

you are just trying to sew confusion OgNasty, rather than really trying to help any member.

You think that there is some exact schedule that guys need to follow to get the most out of their BTC?  Or do we just need to follow you and subscribe to a membershipn so that you can tell us when to buy and/or to sell?


You are right that I have been trying to graduate towards my liquidation phase, which surely is one of the privileges of reaching overaccumulation status.  I have no reason to repent if I consider myself to largely be in such a status.

For some reason between late 2014 and late 2016, I had considered myself to have had been mostly in maintenance status, yet I did recall injecting more capital into bitcoin from time to time.  I also had some periods that I had injected more capital into bitcoin since 2017 and thereafter.. yet they were not very frequent except in 2022, I did purposefully inject more value into bitcoin since I had largely run out of money.. and perhaps my additional injections lasted more than 6 months during that time.

There are likely several other guys who are in similar stage in their bitcoin journey where they are not really putting extra funds into bitcoin, so for example, if some extra money were to come that was not expected.  Would that get put into bitcoin or not?  for me?  maybe or maybe not.  It is hard to resist buying on the dip when the BTC price is in a dip, even though surely buying more bitcoin has been optional for quite a while from my own bitcoin portfolio holdings management perspective.  Pretty amazing to accomplish all of that with merely an assertion of more than 0.63 BTC..    

ahh yeah that makes sense. if the turnouts random you cant really stop odd numbers from happening worst case you just tweak the pairing logic or cap it once you hit your sweet spot. honestly 30–100 people with that buy-in sounds solid  keeps the pool juicy without getting messy. just plan for the odd number scenario ahead of time and your good to go

I am describing two ways a person made huge money.
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One is a perfect trader that began with 100 btc purchased at six dollars. In Dec 2012

He traded it to 30 billion

My guess is No one did this too hard to be that perfect.

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TWO. BUY 20000 COINS for 400 usd or 600 usd. When coins were super cheap.
Then peel some off at

    1,000 coin price
    5,000 coin price
  20,000 coin price
  50,000 coin price
100,000 coin price
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I am fairly certain people did this more or less but similar to this example 2.


This is more or less me siding with you JJG and against trading.


But in either case getting in during 2010 to 2016 was very important along with believing that BTC would grow over 100k.

Any one that got in during 2010 to 2016 got  coins from pennies to 1300 usd. Just hold those coins till 100k became a large score.

Your point about trading is valid, especially the illusion of being able to actually sell at or near the top and then to be able to buy at or near the bottom.   

Yet, even in your example, it is quite blaring that jut buy 100 BTC at $6 each ($600) puts a guy in great place 15 years down the road without doing anything - and even if the guy continued to add to the coins $100 per month or something like that would also created a whole hell of a lot of BTC without having to sell.

I am not even opposed to some selling along the way, as long as it is a generally reasonable percentage.

I had mentioned the possibility of buying $100 per month starting from mid-2011 to early 2013, so for 20 months and having had invested $2k and having an average cost per coin around $10.  So then that would be 200 bitcoin.

A guy could have had waited until January 1, 2017 to start to cash out 10% of the 200-WMA dollar value of then 200 BTC, and right now he would still have 125.5 BTC, even though he would have had withdrawn 74.5 BTC that would have had gotten him an income of $2.3 million over that period of time. 

Bitcoin allows for a lot of potential income once the stash gets to a reasonable enough level to allow for measured withdrawals, rather than trying to trade it.


The thing is that you don't have to go for such outrageously large numbers for the profits to still get to great numbers.  You don't have to consider buying them all at the bottom - even though sure, that would have had worked out too, but it is not necessary to think in terms of thousands of coins - even though surely thousands of coins in 2010 or 2011 could have had allowed to start the sustainable withdrawal even in 2012-ish and starting to sell small amounts in 2012...  even though it probably would make sense to not start selling until 2014.

So for example even a guy with a mere stash of 1,000 coins could have had started selling 10% of the 200-WMA dollar value per year in January 2014, and he would still have 533 BTC today, and he would have had sold nearly $10 million over the past 12-ish years.
 

Sure.  All of that is possible too, but it is not necessary in order to still profit stupendously without needing to have such outrageously high numbers.
 

You are describing fantasy scenarios that are not very likely to have had happened to very many folks, even though sure, some variation of that likely did happen to a few folks.

We usually use the idea of aggressive in terms of what level of accumulation that a guy might attempt to employ, and so there is nothing wrong with attempting to accumulate aggressively as long as you don't over do it.    Aggressive versus whimpy is on a sliding scale, and so if a person goes overboard, then he was investing overly aggressive.

Let's say that a person has an income of $30k per year ($2,500 per month) and his expenses are $1,500 per month.  That leaves him with $1k per month of discretionary income. 
Maybe a reasonable level of aggressiveness would be to invest $333, save $333 and discretionarily consume $333 (presuming that he is still building up his back up funds).   
Perhaps an aggressive way to manage those funds would be to invest $900, save $50 and discretionarily consume $50.   
Perhaps a whimpy way to manage those funds would be to invest $50, save $50 and discretionarily consume $900.
Perhaps an overly aggressive way to manage those funds would be to invest $1000 (or more), save $0 (or take from savings) and discretionarily consume $200 (taking from savings).

Since we talk about aggressiveness or whimpiness in terms of relative actions that guys have to figure out their chosen level, your idea of holding bitcoin aggressively makes little sense.


I generally talk about sustainable withdrawal as a goal rather than consumption goods, even though sure you can have whatever goals  that you like, and if you are not really aggressively accumulating bitcoin (such as 10% or 25% of your income going into bitcoin, and only relying on the signature campaign, then yeah, you might have more difficulties figuring out how to get to overaccumulation status.

Bitcoin has provided a lot of opportunities for many guys who had not had such opportunties with other possible asset classes, yet there likely are needs to try to commit to building your stash for 10 years or longer.. and so we cannot go back in time to fix our mistakes in regards to either being too whimpy or selling too many coins too soon in order to either consume or to invest in inferior assets.

Even with your forum registration date in November 2017 (a bit more than 8 years), you could have had likely gotten quite a long way in your  bitcoin accumulation with something like 15% of your income allocation.. so for example a guy who had a $15k income and invested $50 per week into bitcoin (17% of his income) would have had invested $21.6k (right around 1.44x of his annual income), and would have had accumulated 1.43 BTC.. which I think would be a great place to be since 1.43 bitcoin would currently support an income of right around $8.3k per year more than half of the guy's income .. and perhaps in another cycle or so, the guy could get the amount up to 1.6 BTC or more and he would be able to support a $20k per year income or more, since the 200-WMA is generally going down as you can see in my fuck you status projection chart.


I would suggest that you are trading rather than investing, and you are likely sabotaging your own efforts, since it is quite likely that you would have had been (and would be) way better to stay focused on ongoing accumulation of BTC no matter the BTC price until you reach overaccumulation status.


If you are ongoingly adding to your BTC stash, then it is likely a product of how aggressive that you can be in terms of how much discretionary income you have available, and yeah sometimes it can be difficult to get the investment into bitcoin in the supra 15% arena (meaning more than your income level allocated to bitcoin), and so yeah, if you don't have a lot of discretionary income, it can be difficult to dedicate decent portions towards ongoingly buying bitcoin.

Yes I’m agreeing with you and the analogy you gave, of a truth being whimpy or aggressive depends on the investor as we’re all free to choose what happens with our discretionary income but it’ll be best to utilise it to good use by investing a big or bigger percentage into bitcoin than buying whimply or spending it on consumptions and relaxations.

To be a better successful investor we have to be aggressive when we can, buying whimply can only keep you in the market but wouldn’t take you very far.

Somehow this is what people need to understand that people reaching on overaccumulation state is not actually greedy, but they are trying to have peace of mind on their long term investment made on Bitcoin. If they got lots of BTC than their minimum target, with this they will not do any possible stressful decisions.

People already reach on that state can decide either they should wait for more and let their holdings grow more or they decide to cash out. In this situation they are not chasing after for their survival, because they have flexibility or freedom to do what they want.

I like to think about getting to overaccumulation status as a place in which a guy does not need to accumulate more bitcoin, so continued accumulation becomes optional... So sometimes there could be some value in overaccumulating and having some level of cushion.. like if your goal was to be  able to provide yourself with an income of $80k per year, then right now he would need at least 13.7819 BTC, so if he barely has 13.7819 BTC then he might be more stressed, yet if he had a cushion.. maybe  he has 17.7819 BTC ,. so then he has 4 BTC more than the bare minimum for his goal.

He could start withdrawing at $6,666 per month, and then every year give himself a 7% raise so year 2, he would be withdrawing  $85.6k, and then year 3 he would be withdrawing $91.6k, etc etc etc...  He does not need to accumulate anymore bitcoin, and he does not even need to start his withdrawals.  he could wait or he could withdraw at a lower rate than his authorized amount to allow his bitcoin to continue to grow... Those would be options that would be available to him and to stay in overaccumulation status.

It seems that you are trying to bait me, asUHWEceyc..  .....and I am not going to agree with your exact numbers, since you can look at the sustainable withdrawal website, and I assert that currently 282,312.5 BTC would support sustainable annual income of approximately $869.2 million per year with a 7% increase per year in the dollar values. 

You can see the numbers on the sustainable withdrawal website, and surely that is good information for peeps to know and figure out how many bitcoin that they might want to try to achieve, and "we" gotta thank Bitmover for enabling such monstrosities.


It is a perspective to suggest that it is better to continue to hold, and  to not get caught without a sufficient stash of bitcoin during those days that the BTC price ends up running UPpity.

Are you getting another "ting-a-lie"?

Should "we" start running now?


You may have had a few lucky trades in your attempts to make up for your screw ups between mid-2011 and 2013, so in that regard, I doubt that you have gotten richer than similarly situated guys who errored on the side of buy and HODL.

By the way, I consider a mostly buy and HODL strategy to not preclude from selling - it is just that any sales of the BTC stash would tend to not be large in size.. They would be mostly intended for making various purchases, whether a car, construction a house or something like that.. So in essence, making the sales would be intended for buying back at cheaper prices... even if from time to time, there may have ended up playing out some of those buying back at cheaper prices situations.


The Mas are in pretty good shape then.  You might get a whole line of WO bros lining up with Ramen bowls in order to at least partake in the juices.


You (cAPSLOCK) must not have at least 0.63 BTC then.

There are some guys who are really crushing it with a stash of a mere 0.21 BTC.

I do frequently mention entry-level fuck you status to be a yearly income of $80k, yet right now, that is going to take 13.7819 BTC,. which seems a lot more reasonable (lower quantity) than what was required just a couple of years ago.

In February 2024, it would have had taken 25.984 BTC to start out with an $80k per year income - not quite double but pretty close. Of course, $80k per year is not worth as much in February 2026 as it was in 2024, which is part of the rationale to allow for a 7% per year increase in the dollar withdrawal rate each year.


One of the BIGGEST problems in attempting to trade bitcoin is that guys have to catch the 10-ish most profitable days of the year in order to really make meaningful profits in bitcoin, which means that many times traders will end up not being "in" when they should have had been "in.".. so they think that they are all smart, yet if they were not coincidentally "in" bitcoin on those 10-ish most profitable days, they end up fucking away all of their profits.  Another way of putting it is that they frequently sell too much too soon..

It really becomes difficult for guys who had been in bitcoin more than 10-ish years to have not have had done quite well with a strategy that emphasized buying and holding rather than trading.. and surely guys who had accumulated most of their coins before the 2013 run would have had been on a higher level as compared to guys who did most of their accumulation before the 2017 run.. yet both of them are better than guys who got in before the 2021 run or those who got in before the 2024 run (see what i did there?)...  


MSTR is a different situation since they are using other people's money to buy bitcoin, so other people tend to be inclined to want to give them money when the BTC prices are going up rather than at any other time in the market.  Who knows how all this will work out for MSTR, yet they own a whole hell of a lot of BTC pretty much free and clear - mostly by using other people's money.


I am not going to argue with you in regards to the existence of a multitude of forces besides just cycle that are contributing to current and expected future price dynamics.


Why don't you look at yourself instead of trying to proclaim that other guys should have had gotten rich.

You had the pre 2013 period and also the pre-2017 period.. but you want to ignore those because you fucked up, even though you are bragging about yourself being a professional bitcoin consultant for the past 15 years.. yet you likely had around 6 years of screw ups if we might imagine that you improved after that, yet I have my doubts that you actually improved in recent times.  You just spout about your supposed winning even though you are in the middle of a trade in which you are not in bitcoin, you going to buy back? or you are waiting for 2-ish years before you buy back?

Trading is not a good idea.. even if guys try to wave it around as if it were easy peasy, when buying and holding tend to be the better play.. .and don't depend, as much, on luck.

As hardware wallets estão cada vez ficando cada vez mais nichadas, antes o foco era só um ambiente isolado pra gerar carteiras/chaves privadas e assinar transações no dispositivo, tinha só a trezor, ledger e keepkey e a comunicação era somente via USB, hoje tem cerca de 50 ou 100 marcas.

Hoje tem hardware wallets air-gapped, a maioria com foco somente em bitcoin e funções extras de criptografia que na minha opinião, ajudam muito - é o caminho que mais faz sentido pra mim.

E também tem as hardware wallets que focam em adicionar cada vez mais altcoins, memecoins, o foco é correr pra adicionar suporte a shitcoin do momento, um exemplo disso principalmente é a ledger e a trezor. E o meu ponto aqui é que claramente funções que aumentam a autocustódia ficam pra trás, como modos de backups criptografados como na krux e coldcard já tem.

A bitbox tem uma abordagem de backup (opcional) interessante, você pode escolher gerar um backup no cartão SD que vem junto da caixa, só que o backup não é criptografado (bem que poderia ser), eu gostaria de ver isso nas carteiras Trezor...

Obviously time to buy more especially when the market is down.  Selling now is not even an option for me , because right now I’m quite in loss but still won’t panic (but me of then would have lol) but after the know have acquired sofar this is just a phase bitcoin still going to bounce back , and bitcoin movement is so unpredictable.

Buying Gold is not bad though, especially when come diversifying. But time like this focusing on Bitcoin will be beneficial, buying now will give more quantity.

My whole point attempts to contrast the two outcomes for the same guy who had an annual income of $30k, so the first outcome was more aggressive and invested 43.3% of his discretionary funds into bitcoin for 10 years and in the second outcome the guy only invested only 7.5% of his discretionary income into bitcoin during that same 10 years. 

It is the same guy with two quite differing outcomes after 10 years of investing, so surely he cannot go back and redo his earlier choices once the outcome had already played out and surly the first outcome gets him to a place where he is able to start to withdraw nearly 3x of his current annual income, and the second outcome gets him to a place where he is ONLY able to withdraw half of his annual outcome.

I think in the second outcome, the guy likely would have to spend another cycle or more accumulating bitcoin to get his stash up to a higher amount, yet in the first outcome, the guy is largely at a place fuck you status that gives him nearly 3x his current income.

I cannot see how advance withdrawal resolves the issue for the second outcome since the guy likely was trying to achieve some kind of sustainable and steady situation that would give him an income that is similar or higher than his current income.  It seems to me that he just did not stack enough, which is too bad since he had a discretionary income that was high enough to achieve a much larger bitcoin stash as was shown with the first outcome. 

Of course in both of the outcomes, most of the performance came towards the beginning of the stacking in 2016 and early 2017, yet I am still trying to show a situation in which the guy was steadily stacking from his income for the whole 10 years..and surely guys who started to stack bitcoin in early 2016 and 2017 were much better off than guys who might have had started stacking in late 2017 or 2018 or later, yet we cannot go back in time and fix whatever mistakes that we might have had made.

And surely the guys who started stacking BTC in late 2017 or 2018 are much better off than the guys who came to bitcoin in 2022 and 2023, yet with the passage of time, guys are still stuck with whatever level of aggressiveness that they had chosen to execute, whether they did it at a consistent level or if they might have had some success to be more aggressive during dipping times, which it can be difficult for newbies to know when the dipping times are - and even longer term bitcoiners might have troubles with those matters, too... even though you are right (bitmover) to point out that the sustainable withdrawal tool might help to give some indication about whether BTC prices are high or low - at least relative to the 200-WMA.


The guy with the first outcome could still ongoingly withdraw, and just reduce his withdrawal rate to the extent that the spot price happens to be less than 25% above the 200-WMA.

Sure a person could keep buying, but if a person has gone to sustainable withdrawal status (and if he has overaccumulated), he does not need to buy.. Buying is optional.


I surely would not be playing around with gold.. or gold/btc pairs, but sure, that is your choice.

Investing 5-10% of your discretionary income is overly whimpy..

Maybe think about investing 30% to 70%, depending on the extent to which you are also still building up your back up funds.

If you are ONLY investing 5% to 10% of your discretionary funds, then what are you doing with the other 90% to 95% of your discretionary funds?  Consumption? 

Of course, you can do what you like, yet being whimpy is a choice that you seem to be making if you are only investing 5% to 10% of your discretionary funds into bitcoin.  You are safe, but you might end up staying poor forever.

Maybe I could give you an example to help?

Let's say that a guy came into bitcoin 10 years ago and he was in his late 20s, and so he had an income of $30k per year ($2,500 per month) and he had expenses that tended to be $1,500 per month.  That left him with $1k per month discretionary funds.

Hypothetical 1: The above guy invested $100 per week into bitcoin, which was $5,200 per year (which was 17.3% of his income and 43.3% of his discretionary funds).  Up until now, he invested $52,300 into bitcoin, and right now his total BTC stash is 14.134.  Right now, based on a 200-WMA valuation of $820k, a 14.134 BTC stash would support a sustainable annual income of $82k with a 7% increase in the dollar amount each year.

Hypothetical 2: The above guy invested $17.31 per week into bitcoin, which was $900 per year (which was 3% of his income and 7.5% of his discretionary funds).  Up until now, he invested $9,050 into bitcoin, and right now his total BTC stash is 2.45.  Right now, based on a 200-WMA valuation of $142k, a 2.45 BTC stash would support a sustainable annual income of $14.2k with a 7% increase in the dollar amount each year.

Which guy would you rather be?

Sure there are variants of whimpy versus aggressive, and past performance does not guarantee figure performance.

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 এটার সামারি যদি করি তাহলে পোস্ট এক্টিভিটি কমেছে −54.07% তার মানে অর্ধেকেরও বেশি পোষ্টের এক্টিভিটি সংখ্যা কমে গিয়েছে।

সবশেষে এর মধ্যেই যারা অবদান রেখেছেন তাদেরকে ধন্যবাদ এবং সেই সাথে সাথে সামনে আরো ভালো করার অনুরোধ জানিয়ে,


নিচে বিস্তারিত ডাটা গুলো চার্টের মাধ্যমে তুলে ধরা হলো।

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জানুয়ারি মাসের  টোটাল পোস্ট হয়েছে           = 79টি

এবং  মেরিট ট্রানজেকশন হয়েছে                = 53টি


প্রথম তিনজন সর্বোচ্চ মেরিট অর্জনকারীঃ
Crypto Library   23
DYING_S0UL   20
Bd officer   5


প্রথম তিনজন সর্বোচ্চ মেরিট  সেন্ডারঃ
DdmrDdmr   19
mindrust   10
Xal0lex   8

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ডিসেম্বরমাসের  টোটাল পোস্ট হয়েছে           = 172টি

এবং  মেরিট ট্রানজেকশন হয়েছে                = 39টি



প্রথম দশজন পোস্টদাতা
1 Bd officer 18
2 DYING_S0UL 12
3 BlackHatSojib 11
4 Crypto Library 9
5 Z_MBFM 9
6 Mahiyammahi 4
7 Review Master 3
8 Btcloop 2
9 Comando65 2
10 Nadifa2030 2



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1. Crypto Library [648]
2. God Of Thunder [569]
3. Bd officer [563] ⬆
4. Little Mouse [532] + MotoLM [8] ⬇
5. DYING_S0UL [529]
6. Review Master [389]
7. LDL [367]
8. Z_MBFM [261]
9. shasan [245]
10. Shishir99 [228 ]

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এনাদের ক্রেডিট না দিলেই নয়
Ninjastic.Space -> TryNinja
Merit Dashboard -> DdmrDdmr  

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   445. 1339358: gospodin (Trust:  neutral) (1481 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   446. 1339716: coinlocket$ (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (1511 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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   448. 1385147: ILuckyGuyI (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (649 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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   456. 1545702: DeepMining76 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (22 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   457. 1554927: bitmover (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (7263 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   458. 1564795: Heisenberg_Hunter (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (1281 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   459. 1573369: casperBGD (Trust:  neutral) (1152 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   460. 1574226: mu_enrico (Trust:  neutral) (2318 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   461. 1580039: asche (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (1492 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   462. 1583465: Dernoste (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (152 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   463. 1593137: famososMuertos (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (3845 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   464. 1608003: montreal1 (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (23 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   465. 1681586: RickDeckard (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (3210 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   466. 1729238: UmerIdrees (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (929 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   467. 1750589: TopTort777 (Trust:  neutral) (1597 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   468. 1762404: Alex_Sr (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (962 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   469. 1775670: bubbalex (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (339 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   470. 1781771: Mbitr (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (1360 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   471. 1803753: Kylapoiss (Trust:  neutral) (292 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   472. 1825672: morvillz7z (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (2200 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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   475. 1894120: madnessteat (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (2638 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   476. 1903411: BITCOIN4X (Trust:  neutral) (1193 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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   478. 1932205: CucakRowo (Trust:  neutral) (593 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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   480. 2000200: 1Dq (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (1929 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
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   482. 2005913: Corrosive (Trust: +24 / =0 / -0) (1089 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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   486. 2143453: 1miau (Trust: +8 / =6 / -0) (7551 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   487. 2148411: DIKUL (Trust:  neutral) (151 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   488. 2154195: Nikisa (Trust:  neutral) (217 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   489. 2160117: Harkorede (Trust: +4 / =2 / -0) (1023 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   490. 2178170: Sayeds56 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (748 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   491. 2204241: ICOEthics (Trust: +23 / =1 / -0) (892 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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   495. 2403910: Spokanistan51 (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (203 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   496. 2423488: Upgrade00 (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (2845 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   497. 2479329: iBitcoinHongKong8 (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (180 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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   499. 2514450: rxalts (Trust: +26 / =0 / -0) (353 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
   500. 2518540: jackbauercsgo (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (118 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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   502. 2546135: mandown (Trust:  neutral) (2045 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
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Holy smokes, some entity was really "generous" today!

Past March 14^th, 2025 large^{equal/over 500k sats} transfers to Genesis block descriptor:

Current balance at time of this post according to combo(PubKey of Genesis block's coinbase) descriptor, including the unspendable 50BTC of coinbase tx: 107.09996294BTC (includes 1,000sat pending confirmation, the difference to previous post's value and newcomer transaction are smaller dust wastes and often a few larger ones).

This may differ slightly from what mempool.space or bitcoindata.science displays because the combo() descriptor^{see below} accounts for all address types (except Taproot, IIRC).

Weekly update (2026-01-30_Fri_05.18h)


theymos' raw data (format: time    amount    msg    user_from    user_to)
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Full list^* (54 MB) (not limited to 120 days, 2269 Merit transactions added since my previous update).

theymos' data (human readable format, including usernames and post titles)
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On Fri 30 Jan 2026 03:25:38 AM CET, JayJuanGee (history) sent 1 Merit to Son Of Blockchain (SOB) (history) for Re: Bitcoin in the next decade .
On Fri 30 Jan 2026 03:19:37 AM CET, yhiaali3 (history) sent 1 Merit to ZaynOsmanAli (history) for Re: شركة “Strategy” تشتري 2932 بيتكوين.
On Fri 30 Jan 2026 03:18:58 AM CET, yhiaali3 (history) sent 1 Merit to OmegaStarScream (history) for Re: شركة “Strategy” تشتري 2932 بيتكوين.
On Fri 30 Jan 2026 03:15:06 AM CET, JayJuanGee (history) sent 1 Merit to Dogedegen (history) for Re: Bitcoin in the next decade .
On Fri 30 Jan 2026 02:43:35 AM CET, casey15 (history) sent 2 Merit to Amphenomenon (history) for Re: Is the coin completely gone or can be recovered?.
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On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:28:54 PM CET, AdolfinWolf (history) sent 1 Merit to Lutpin (history) for Re: What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:54 PM CET, Dahman El_Harrachi (history) sent 1 Merit to theymos (history) for Re: Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?).
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:22 PM CET, Tyrantt (history) sent 5 Merit to AdolfinWolf (history) for What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:13 PM CET, Last of the V8s (history) sent 2 Merit to Rosewater Foundation (history) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:12:21 PM CET, theymos (history) sent 1 Merit to AdolfinWolf (history) for What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
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Usernames to go with theymos' data
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0: deMerit (Bitcoin Forum) (history) earned: 0 Merit.
3: satoshi (history) earned: 8339 Merit.
4: sirius (history) earned: 878 Merit.
10: Xunie (history) earned: 1 Merit.
11: madhatter (history) earned: 5 Merit.
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3744519: Paney_Thrill (history) earned: 2 Merit.
3744614: Coldstreak (history) earned: 12 Merit.
3744714: lukezio (history) earned: 1 Merit.
3744763: topcaz (history) earned: 1 Merit.
3744888: khbinversion (history) earned: 5 Merit.
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Usernames machine readable
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UserIDs, sent Merit and earned Merit machine readable
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Total number of users who received 1 or more Merit: 50912
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Total number of users who gave away 1 or more sMerit: 26527
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Merit per day of the week
Monday 322084 (14.35%)
Tuesday 320383 (14.27%)
Wednesday 321058 (14.30%)
Thursday 342867 (15.27%)
Friday 340236 (15.16%)
Saturday 297193 (13.24%)
Sunday 300420 (13.38%)
Total: 2244241

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You are not exactly the best of role models in terms of giving guidance about how to manage your coins.... perhaps your even suggesting that it is easy to just shave off 5% of your coins tends to show difficulties you have in seeing that those kinds of ongoing shaving off of coins tends to be problematic for maintaining a sufficient BTC stash.

By the way, from my own perspective, once a guy reaches overaccumulation status then surly selling anything like 5% to 10% of the stash upon each doubling of the price would be considered a reasonable price based sustainable withdrawal method... yet one of the questions concern  whether or not 20 BTC would be considered overaccumulation status...

Right now 20 BTC has a 200-WMA value of $1.16 million and a spot price of close to $1.4 million.  So base on the 200-WMA valuation, I personally think that 20 BTC could support a forever and ever and ever withdrawal of $116k per year with a 7% increase each year (even though right now the BTC spot price is lower than 25% above the 200-WMA so I consider it prudent to reduce the withdrawal rate if withdrawals were to be made now).. In any event, for a lot of normies 20 BTC would not be a bad amount of bitcoin to have right now - including if the intent were to be to start to live off of it in a sustainable way.

By the way Phil, it is my perspective if the guy immediately sold 1 BTC (so then he had $69.5k in cash), with his remaining 19 bitcoin, he could withdraw right around $7.8k per month (right now the tool) showing a reduced rate of 85%, even though he should be able to get back to a total that adds up to $110k per year once the BTC price resumes above 25% above the 200-WMA. .


I understand that people want to make sure that they have enough or more than enough to begin their withdrawal, and I also realize that even if you were to use my tool (that Bitmover constructed), then you may well want to error on the side of conservative numbers in order to make sure that your rate is sustainable. .and so if you were ONLY to halve around half of the upper number that Phil mentioned, then you might feel that half is not enough.. and you also need a bit more of a cushion to feel comfortable before you were to transition between working and fuck you status, if fuck you status might be your goal where you were to live off of your bitcoin... yet surely the amount of coin you need continues to go down, as you can see in my fuck you status chart (the principle still applies even though my numbers in that chart need to be adjusted a bit down).


Miners are people too.  (they count)


Miners are bitcoiners too (they count)..


You must be really tempted to sell some...

 


Why?  Weren't they essentially correct?

We had quite the amazing set of drops.. not ONLY the drop below $100k but our drop from yesterday brought us within about 3.5% of the 200-WMA..  Such proximity of the BTC pride to the 200-WMA usually ONLY happens in bear season... and so that also puts some decent questions in front of us in regards to where we are at and where we might be going (hopefully we know from where we came, yet even that might not be agreed upon by some of "us" sometimes disagreeable folks)


There are some guys who still consider chances for a quick and violent rebound to be quite high, and I might even be overly optimistic if I am putting odds at most at 5%.


Yeah but OG?  Really?


OG is not constrained by such limitations. He is going to be correct no matter what ends up happening (at least in his sometimes coherent yet mostly delusional head).


ATH is $126,272 on dee Stamps.. so $127k is not needed in order for an ATH to be reached, meaning to win.


God willing.


I think that many of us might dabble in shitcoins and/or trading, yet it tends to be a minority part of what most guys do in these here parts, so in that sense we are mostly erroring on the side of accumulating and holding - while at the same time, guys are at different points in their journey.. so we likely cannot just aim our discussion at guys who have been through more than a whole cycle.


You consider that all of these various paper bitcoin attacks are going to end up having to bow to the hardness of the king?

Not only do we have paper bitcoin attacks, we also have the various pussy ass cooptation attacks  - that include dollarization through  stable coins, which are largely privatized CBDCs.

I understand that some of those various attacks will end up failing based on their failure/refuseness to recognize/appreciate dee cornz for its math and science characteristics... so yeah, ignore the physical attributes of the real world to your peril.. .but still bitcoin cannot be completely pure maths and science because it is also connected to humans in various ways.. so I have problems with focuses that end up completely ignoring and/or downplaying the human action elements of bitcoin.  I used to spend a lot of time objecting to what I learned about economics based on similar ongoing concerns that I had in my college days.


Yeah, but the diptwat bear manipulators are not playing by the same rules as normies.

Largely they are using paper bitcoin to push the price down and they are buying back actual bitcoin.

Sure it is possible that some of them might end up blowing themselves up or getting on the wrong side of such trades.. yet they tend to both have themselves covered and they also have controls over various exchanges, too...

made the change on the shuffle method:
and the " float" for calculating the random weight   weightedParticipants :

Bem dito, aposta é o nome disso, somente um jogo de adivinhação aleatório entre dois personagens, coisa lúdica, pq ninguém sabe de nada o que o futuro nos reserva.

Ainda acredito em diversificar o portfolio e rebalancear nos ups and downs das diversas classes de ativos.

Hoje compro BTC por 60k USD pq a % cripto baixou muito do meu teto de 5%, então eu compro aos poucos, com preços atrativos até que se atinja novamente os 5%, e por aí vai. Compro BTC pq acredito nos fundamentos, é a moeda consagrada da era digital.

É muito engraçado que agora a bolsa tá no modinha, todo mundo faz piadinha, sai em todos os news, é sempre assim, antes bolsa era lixo eterno e só andava de lado, os mais absurdos como comparar curva de CDI 100%(sem tirar inclusive o imposto mín. de 15%) vs algum ativo de RV, coisa de leigo que não entende nada...todo mundo recomenda na alta e na visibilidade e agora BTC é lixo e vai explodir quando até então os Cripto Nostradamus diziam iria subir sem limites de forma linear, o mercado manipula as emoções, ganha o racional, perde o emotivo.

Quando falava de ações e renda variável aqui, não da M do índice ibov/bova11, diziam que renda fixa era a moleza da vez com SELIC a 15% (debêntures arriscadas sem garantia de nada ou ainda CDBs de bancos que hj coincidentemente quebraram e os amigos tiveram que a acessar o lixo do FGC), sendo que renda fixa, na minha estratégia, é só um ativo pro dinheiro não ficar parado (ou algo pra curto prazo), ir rendendo até ser aplicado em um ativo real da economia, hoje com uma valorização absurda em algumas classes de ativos na carteira e com previsão de explosão mais módica em outras quando a SELIC começar provavelmente a cair em MAR/26... ações hj evito comprar 90% delas, pois  fogem do meu preço-teto e faço essa estratégia de alocação a anos, sempre aportando naquilo que cai e monitorando a qualidade/relatórios dos ativos.

Em 2014 era chamado de louco por colegas de trabalho e familiares próximos (acredite) pq comprava BTC, era ridicularizado, hoje eles ainda dependem do trabalho assalariado, algo em que 99,99% das vezes ninguém quer ver o seu sucesso, pelo contrário, todos cagam pra vc, vivem numa roda de ilusão, de jogo de poder fictício, de chefias enlouquecidas pelo poder do mando que a cada dia se afastam do ideal de humanidade.

Bem, quando termina essa tal aposta?
É que para o Bitcoin 30% pode parecer muito, mas de um dia para o outro, pode virar o dobro para cima. 

No final, tudo depende da data final para a liquidação da aposta.

It's also a compliance on the casino for allowing that to happen. If we customers are being pressured by the casinos to comply for their KYC approach. They're also as well as a business need to obey the regulations that they're being enforced with. It's a legal business and so, they can skipped that.

For small gamblers, they don't mind asking them KYC but eventually they'll also get to them.

Real world assets in token form are good for cryptocurrency users I guess. The one you mentioned has good market cap as well, and if the news about BlackRock issuing it is true then it's going to be a useful token for most people who love Silver investing.