Sim, mas para isso, queria dizer que o próximo bull vai valorizar uma percentagem maior do que as ultimas bulls que o Bitcoin enfrentou.
Tendencialmente a valorização tem vindo a reduzir não aumentar.

Qualquer das formas espero estar enganado, porque isso seria algo fantástico.

Agora, acredito que depois do próximo bull, os bears ficaram mais próximos do patamar dos 100k.

Vou dizer uma coisa aqui que pode parecer anticientífica, mas com certeza nao é anti-logica em nível individual

Se a gasolina em 2020 (chutando) tava 4 reais e 2030 vai estar 8, e eu uso a gasolina (importantissima essa parte final)

Pra mim a inflação de fato, real, tangível, vai estar no 100%. Mesmo que o IBGE com a analise de 300 itens agregados diga que so aumentou 35%

Bem, isso também é um pouco exagerado.
Em menos de 5 anos, o Bitcoin ficar a vale isso tudo? Acho exagerado.

Não é que não gostasse de ver acontecer, mas acho muito. Principalmente agora com o mundo todo baralhado com estas guerras e crises nos mercados da energia.

Mas, uma coisa é certa, surpreender só mesmo 9 Bitcoin, porque de resto, não vejo outros capazes de o fazer.

I own quite a bit of SpaceX and Tesla. Today, Tesla announced a new Mergers and Acquisitions department sparking some headlines. It appears the merger is going to happen and soon. I am thrilled about this and wanted to own both companies to make sure I wouldn’t get screwed on the deal. Most exciting companies of our lifetimes about to join. 

These funds would, in theory, be held by trusted signature campaign managers, not theymos. They would also be quite small, so nothing that would incentivize people to steal them.


I swear I didn't steal it
I'm the happiest when I'm far away from Meta. It is a good idea though - at least I think so.


You misunderstood. DT1 would not have power to delete posts.
What I'm suggesting is that, when a post is reported to moderators, if it came from a DT1 member and ends up as deleted, it automatically counts against the member that wrote it.
Many such posts deleted by moderators and a sigban is automatically triggered.


There are 10+ paid pools every season, there were 20 or so at one point in time. It would make a lot of sense to separate them.
Not sure whether it would attract more users or not - but I'm sure a lot of people don't even know some of them exist because they hate going into Gambling. And I fully understand that.
Hopefully, more people would be drawn to organic discussions that take place there. The buyin for a full year of normal conversation is usually quite low.


This is exactly what I'm talking about. It's running since 2023.
Join us from next season, we'd love to have you


Well, kind of - yeah. I hope that discussions would improve there little by little but I'd also be ok with letting a part of the forum burn if it means that Gambling in general improves.


It would be purely statistical, based on previously agreed parameters (mostly revolving around deleted posts and banned members).


This is about tackling spam, not choosing who I like to work with. I don't suggest we select central authorities to police us, just to have an overview about which campaigns perform good and which do not.


I like gambling very much. I don't really like the gambling boards. Therefore, I'd really like to improve the situation on the part of the forum that attracts me the most - at least based on a personal preference.

The quote below is from Signature Campaign Guidelines thread, so there are measures in place for managers who are not doing their jobs properly. The question is, have these measures ever actually been enforced?
 

Memorizing is not a best and safest way to remember wallet seed phrases a long time. It can work in short term but if a user stops recalling that wallet seed phrase daily, he will forget it after a while.

With many things to concern, there is risk that we will forget to practice wallet seed phrase recall daily, and sooner or later we will reach to a time of forgetting it.

provavelmente era provocação, afinal, sua bet não pode, mas a minha pode e é "legalizada", é foda viu, até comentei no outro topico, que empresa agora vai querer vir pra ca? não é só o caso de bets, é o problema generalizado que isso vai trazer, porque se alguem quer investir aqui, segue as regras, coloca dinheiro, coloca o risco... e chega do dia pra noite mudam todas as regras... é uma insegurança juridica absurda que vai espantar todas as coisas empresas q um dia pensam em abrir um negocio por aqui, um governo perdido, de gente desqualificada e corrupta, triste de ver.... o enorme potencial que esse pais tem e é capado por essa corja de incompetentes.

Indeed.  The largest flying object ever made by humans and it will be building the future internet around the planet and making mankind a multi-planetary species.  I am not sure, but I think I may be more excited about this than when I discovered Bitcoin.  I wish I could have gotten into SpaceX with a sub-$10,000,000 market cap like I did with Bitcoin instead of getting in at $1,700,000,000,000, but I'm still happy to be along for the ride. 

To Infinity And Beyond!

You are delusional if you believe that there is any meaningful chance that trading will accelerate (or improve) the ability and/or ease that you might be able to accumulate 1 bitcoin.

The best way to have assurance of advancing towards getting to 1 bitcoin is by ongoingly buying bitcoin and also by figuring out ways to increase your discretionary income so that you can buy more bitcoin with the higher levels of discretionary income that you would be able to reach.


You should assume that the odds of you being more profitable by trading as compared with ongoingly buying bitcoin is quite low, especially since trading means selling and selling means causing you to have less bitcoin, which also means that you are employing tactics that involve waiting to buy bitcoin rather than acting to ongoingly buy bitcoin, so then if you sell bitcoin with an expectation of being able to buy more, you are actually gambling on one set of events (the BTC price going down) and if the price does not go down and even worse if it goes up you end up with less bitcoin because you had been spending that time waiting rather than actually ongoing and persistently buying.

The odds are against traders to have more bitcoin than ongoing buyers, especially if we consider those kinds of behaviors on a consistent and persistent 8 year or more (2 cycles or more) basis.

You can look at the DCA charts yourself and see what the performance of a guy who had been ongoingly accumulating bitcoin for the past 8-ish years or more.  Do you really think that you can beat those results by fucking around trying to trade rather than staying focused on buying...

Look at it.  A guy who had been investing $100 per week in the past 8 years would have had invested $42k and he would have had accumulated 2.34 BTC.  You really think that you can beat that with fucking around trying to trade?  Why not take the sure results of ongoingly buying bitcoin rather than gambling with BTC prices maybe going down and maybe not and taking chances on the value of ongoingly waiting rather than ongoingly acting (through ongoing buying and ongoingly building up your discretionary funds to buy bitcoin)?


You seem to be living in dreamlandia @Odusko if believe that gambling with your bitcoin is a good way to build it.. gambling is more likely to lead you to being more poor rather than getting lucky from having had been gambling rather than building.

Eu como não sou fã de futebol, acho isso uma palhaçada (também acharia se fosse fã).. já foi uma palhaçada aquela Copa.

Não entendo porque não deixam essas porras de clubes falirem se não dão lucro, como qualquer empresa que existe.. é o famoso pão (bolsa família) e circo (futebol).

Ainda sobre o tema, ontem vi uma publicação da Cazé TV no Twitter com um símbolo de "Loterias Caixa".. mas não parei pra ver se era meme/provocação ou se realmente fecharam alguma parceria.. tem muita gente grande ai que vai quebrar.

As penso se não são essas ondas de previsões, que acabam por realmente influenciar o mercado e fazer ele subir ou descer.

Claro que isto é só uma sensação. Mas, assim como quando todo o mundo começa a falar que vai descer, ele desce mesmo, o inverso parece que acontece o mesmo.

Pois é, quando ta subindo é muito simples e facil fazer isso... Eu não duvido que um dia o bitcoin custara 1 milhao de dolares, afinal, o sistema monetario baseado em divida e emissao de dinheiro faz o bitcoin "subir" infinitamente, mas ainda vejo um cenario pessimista no curto prazo, a galera que surfou essa onda vai querer realizar e o preço despencar, alias, o preço sobe tbm nos bears.. mas no fim das contas é impossivel saber se vai subir ou cair no curto prazo.

1. Ricardo11, $84,333.33  ~$2.67
2. bitmover, $84,424.31 ~$88.31
3. Woodie, $84,170  $166

Please DM me your Bitz Bitcoin deposit.

É uma alternativa, mas ainda acho que não mude nada de fato. Antes, com a legalização, eles viviam derrubando os clandestinos. No dia da assinatura o ministro da fazenda disse que tinha derrubado mais de 70 mil sites até aquela data. Só que é tão fácil abrir um novo ou usar um mirror que acho que não cause tanto efeito assim. E de toda forma, tu vai pra outro pais e consegue sacar tranquilo

Thanks, bitmover. I agree that rejecting a comment or treating it as spam simply because the user forgot to include proof would be unnecessarily harsh.

On KYCNotList, the required evidence is configured separately for each service and requested in the review form before submission. Therefore, in most cases, a user cannot simply omit the required Order ID or other proof. A submission with missing or insufficient evidence is also not published as a transaction-verified review and does not affect the exchange’s rating.

However, a user may still provide an incorrect Order ID, an incomplete screenshot, or evidence that is insufficient for verification. Your suggestion makes sense for these cases.

We plan to introduce a “Needs additional evidence” status. It would allow the author to edit a pending review, add the missing Order ID, order link, screenshot, or other required evidence, and resubmit it for moderation instead of creating a new review.

Until the additional evidence has been checked, the review would remain unpublished and would not affect the service’s rating or review totals.

Thank you for the useful suggestion.

What part of that block explorer output is unclear to you? You can plainly see the address the tx comes from, the address it's going to, and the USD values of each leg (2.53 in, 0.52 out).

This is a regular SegWit/Taproot tx that happens to include an unreadable OP_RETURN message. The tx is confirmed, on-chain. There's nothing "shielded" about this, and absolutely nothing even remotely similar to what happens with Lightning.

In order for this to be like Zcash "shielding", it would have to hide the sender, receiver, and value using zk-SNARKs at the protocol-level, not just tacking on some OP_RETURN data that might encode a message or perform some other application-layer function. In order for it to be like Lightning, the balance updates would need to happen off-chain, with base layer txs only happening when you're opening/closing a LN channel.

Mas essas bets sem o ".bet.br" já não deviam estar bloqueadas? eu acho que não vai mudar nada.


Que loucura esse governo, vai do 8 ao 80 bem rápido.. o negócio é usar só aba gringa e fingir que nem é brasileiro

Que merda hein, vou acumular a grana lá então e quando eu visitar algum país vizinho eu solicito o saque, geralmente costumo ir com certa frequência….. nem tudo está perdido hehe


Eh o nosso supremo líder do governo da república federativa democrática de banania sempre evoluindo e “cuidando das pessoas”.

These claims are not correct and are provided without proof. Platforms have reputation systems in place for reasons like this, so there are traders that have made thousands or tens of thousands of transactions over the years without any issues. So this claim here is a false. If someone decides to purchase coins the wrong way or from unknown individuals then the responsibility of the bad decisions lies on the person. That they get criminal coins with these methods does not prove that getting clean coins without KYC is hard.

Quite a strange way to write it, because that is exactly what they should be doing and are doing. This is a known method to get rid of bad coins.

It is safe when done correctly, and the author of this thread knows that. Please don't make false claims here, he asked for help to create a list.

Coins that come from mixers can often be tracked or they are marked as high risk these days.

But Uniswap is not a mixer, so I don't understand how this connects to the talk about mixers? Swapping on Uniswap can be traced directly through the blockchains, some tools have this very automated so there is no way to hide the coins by making on chain swaps like that.

This thread is not about tax evasion?

You can buy Bitcoin without KYC on hyperliquid? I thought that was only crypto to crypto?

It's not really shielded Bitcoin as in that proposal, he also mentioned this, it's a owner change, not a settlement.
Insanely complicated, heavy footprint 3 times the normal size, not really 100% anonymous.
The whole obfuscation this way would rely on volume and number of outputs, how do you do volume to hide that when the tx would be clogging the mempool?

Now, specifically talking about shielded Bitcoin, it will never gain traction, everyone will be scared of regulations, privacy or coins valued back at $1000, what do you think people will choose

DCA does not improve your average entry price, even though DCA does help you to facilitate balancing the amount that you put into bitcoin with your discretionary funds and/or other ongoing cashflow considerations.


Whether you are back testing or future projecting, we are using hypothetical persons in order that we do not necessarily need to talk about our own circumstances.

Of course, we can look at a person who registered in the forum in 2018, which would be 8 years ago, then we could project what he would have had accumulated in bitcoin if he had been accumulating $100 per week during those 8 years, and yeah, he would have had invested right about $42k and he would have had accumulated right about 2.334 BTC, which surely would be a good place to be in.  Of course, there could be guys who had engaged in other tactics, and they could compare their own performance to the hypothetical guy.

By the way, if we project forward for a guy investing $100 per week, then we could determine that he would invest $5,200 in 1 year and he would invest $52k over 10 years.  Of course, we cannot be sure how many bitcoin that he might end up getting or what might be the price of bitcoin in 10 years, yet we can project out those numbers and we can even adapt our projections specifically to our own expectations in regards to our own personal circumstances and even project out a base case and then perhaps better and worse case scenarios so that we might get some ideas about how we expect our bitcoin investment might go.

I wouldn't want to emphasize the deletion of images so much, because the probability of errors or deleting images that are already on the forum might increase.

Either way, I'll keep the idea noted down for future analysis.

You said you could do that easily but I would like to know what's next.

Because as far as I know, nations in Europe are very strict with tax and they have powerful infrastructures to trace their citizen money flows. You can trade (buy, sell) bitcoin on Bisq, even with big volume by doing several trades but to get USD or EUR, you will need to use banks.

Am I right about that?

If you need to use banks, you will have problems with tax.

That looks good, although the delete-button should only work for at most an hour.

Investment is a very good way for people who are not rich to accumulate their wealth and change their financial lives to become the rich in the future. They of course will have to do intelligent investment by choosing good assets such as in cryptocurrency market, choosing Bitcoin will give them a safest investment portfolio.

If they decide to invest but do it wrongly such as spending money for shitcoins, they will very likely not get richer but actually get poorer, even bankrupted.

DCA is a classic investment strategy and it works well for strong assets like Bitcoin. DCA can be used for accumulation but also for take profit with time.

https://costavg.com/
https://bitcoindata.science/withdrawal-strategy

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    85. 2654005: zasad@ (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (8) 5827 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    86. 2658890: Rikafip (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (29) 8371 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    87. 2739424: NotATether (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (9) 10323 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    88. 2739454: Stalker22 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 1655 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    89. 2744352: bullrun2024bro (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 5396 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    90. 2745549: decodx (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 1000 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    91. 2775483: BlackHatCoiner (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 10120 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    92. 2776678: Charles-Tim (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 6542 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    93. 2796662: Lillominato89 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1305 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    94. 2836461: Free Market Capitalist (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (14) 3651 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    95. 3442614: YodasRedRocket (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 651 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    96. 3558380: Mia Chloe (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 2292 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)

DT 2
     1. 3: satoshi (Trust: +41 / =0 / -0) (8893 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 4: sirius (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (935 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 35: theymos (Trust: +32 / =0 / -0) (15135 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 1268: nanotube (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 2252: laanwj (Trust:  neutral) (50 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 2676: casascius (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (193 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 2759: midnightmagic (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (27 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 2786: Pieter Wuille (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (203 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 3380: Vladimir (Trust:  neutral) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 3420: dooglus (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (335 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 4171: Raize (Trust:  neutral) (24 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)

Winner:
26 Barcode_

Winner 2:
47 chenille

Winner 3:
34 Pmalek

Giveaway Result

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04   Woodie
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05   bitzizzix
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24   Ninja Primes
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Winner:
34 rbynxx

Winner 2:
09 knuckey

Winner 3:
25 el che

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Eligible:

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02   Woodie
03   Woodie
04   Smartprofit
05   Smartprofit
06   bitmover
08   tiCeR
09   knuckey
14   Pmalek
15   Ricardo11
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21   Pandorak
25   el che
27   Debbiecrypto
29   sokani
33   inearth
34   rbynxx
42   Improved
47   chenille

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07   cumakoff
10   bitzizzix
17   Yoona_As
28   f150
44   Ninja Primes
16   Mr. Magkaisa
39   RTX-G53

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You guys are on my ignore list starting today

Winner:
23 hopenotlate

Winner 2:
35 Ricardo11

Winner 3:
19 Road21Bitcoin

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Please DM me your Bitz.io Bitcoin deposit address.

Thanks for sharing this helpful too by Bitmover who, as always, have brought a lot of innovations to make the forum enjoyable. Since a lot of use plebs use the DCA strategy, this tool will be very helpful.

I fear same, more because private Bitcoin is not a solved issue yet and to think of it, the base layer shouldn't be complex all in the name of private transactions because this could be a huge systemic risk to deal with.
Maybe in the future if such an idea works efficiently, I could opt for it but I believe privacy is better as an optional higher layer than it is assumed to become.

well, you can hope in one hand and..... haha

i'll update everyone the new changes when we're done.

Eu também não curto quando tem que colocar Telegram ou qualquer outra coisa no meio. Eu acho que as informações deveriam sempre ficar centralizadas aqui no fórum. Quando começa a misturar um monte de contato, geralmente dá problema.

E também tem a questão da privacidade. Não é todo mundo que gosta de ficar conversando sobre esse tipo de assunto fora do fórum. Tem pessoas que usam pseudônimos aqui e completo anonimato, o que também é uma coisa muito válida.

Enfim, eu também não curto isso não, cara. Acho muito invasivo, digamos assim.

Bitcoin has been better Gold for years now and no one can argue about it, although bitcoin price can change at any time and that is part of how it works, but when we look at the most successful between Bitcoin and Gold, bitcoin has been the best, people can doubt bitcoin, but those who believe and understand bitcoin will never doubt it, the people who doubt bitcoin are the same people who can't hold, and if you can’t hold your bitcoin for a long period of time to make a good profit, you should not buy or invest in bitcoin, because bitcoin is for people who believe in it and are willing to hold without considering how the market works.

Yes it should be removed. I updated the thread (because of new visual implementation) and forgot to make merit per post ratio chart

Thanks

I Initially wanted to start from August since the charts for May were already published, even though I didn’t want to I have to start from the following month.

For now, please enjoy this merit race.

Merit Race:
This race was made with the data from 2018 Feb to 2026 Sep , weekly


https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/30354818/

There is Agent 007. You are the agent of the four 7s. 

I'm almost catching up to you... I already have a target number of merits for the coming period.

Olha que eu duvido... to pra acreditar que a maioria dessa pessoas já jogam em sites que não são legalizados (tem muita propaganda de site que não pagou a licença e sequer estão cediados no Brasil).
Mas... mesmo que eles jogavam em sites legalizados, o governo não vai conseguir barrar sites de fora... eles vão continuar jogando e se preciso utilizando uma exchange daqui pra comprar cripto/stable com fiat e mandar pro cassino.

Sei lá... o Lula tá falando tando disso nas campanhas eleitorais que eu acho que estão contando com esse bloqueio como algo bom pro lado deles.

I think it's ok to still have them there actually. Sometimes people can have their posts moved either by themselves or moderators but at the same time it doesn't necessarily mean their posts are of zero value. Some users infact either lock or move most of their posts once they get what they want.

I think the real numbers is if you scraped the entire forum. There was a recent meta post that eventually got moved to off topic but you can't ignore the merit sent there too.

Totalmente automatizado até pode ser mais complicado. Mas, se servir para sinalizar casos, depois para os humanos polirem as informações, é voltarem analisar. Os resultados vão surpreender e serão muito mais rápidos.

No final é uma questão de tempo, quando mais hops surgirem depois da origem, mais difícil é.
Se com a IA conseguires detectar a ligação de um hop a outro, de forma mais rápida, fica ainda mais difícil esconder.

I think by default the profile is private we need to turn on this option.
As far as I have opened an account on TalkImg by joker_josue I don't actually remember if I ever made my profile identity public, even on the contrary I remember before that I was looking for whether the profile images can be made private but I didn't find it then but I forgot to ask in this place.
I'm asking because I suddenly remembered the thing again, but thanks anyway, this option never crossed my mind. 

Add another point here, you could also use the tools like shareX here you will need the API for set up the ShareX and for that you have to create an account. 

To be honest, while exploring this forum, I had to take screenshots hundreds of times and upload them manually to an image host site, then I copied and pasted the direct image link.
This is where ShareX and Postimages save me a lot of time, and I use these two tools continuously even now.

You noticed? Why did you not notice _act_'s comment? Albeit bit roundabout way than direct (which is clicking, 'Trust' right next to the profile), but it's more, 'universal' way since in some sections 'trust' is not shown next to profiles.

hahaha, verdade, tem certas pessoas que não precisam de muita coisa, conseguem se enforcar sozinhas, o Lules vai mexer num vespeiro, hoje as bets estão em todos os lugares, times, midia tradicional, absolutamente tudo, os caras vem girando a economia de certa forma, jogatina sempre vai existir, independente da decisão do presidente ou não... quero ver ele mexer com o jogo do bicho, que hoje é totalmente informatizado kkkk ai ele não quer né... enfim, presidente lules sempre em prol do povo brasileiro, cuidado dos pobres e fazendo a galera ter um café da manhã todos os dias na mesa.

não vejo a hora desse sujeito se aposentar e deixar o Brasil em PAZ.

Acho que IA rodando na blockchain pra ter rastros ja tem a bastante anos, mas imagino eu, com todos os mixers presentes la fora, quanto isso pode ser confiavel? No máximo pode ser um começo para depois os seres humanos (=policia) polirem as informações, espero que nunca se caia na fase dos processos geridos totalmente pela IA, que nem o suporte cliente do Uber.

Essa ultima frase me fez rir bastante. Pior que é verdade. Nem lembrava que o atual governo travou tudo em respeito ao IOF, e realmente, a pegada que a economia BR assume com esse tipo de imposto é bem protecionista.

Nao tinha um plano de 4-5 anos para zerar o IOF ou baixar muito ele? Ou era so IOF no cartão de credito e a de compra em divisa de outro estado vai ficar para sempre?

They are forgetting about it whenever the price of bitcoin slumps, they'll have to zoom out the charts to remind them that there's an upward trend for it in the long run.

While metric of it is the price and that's the majority of us looking at it, it's easier for those who don't understand it to analyze of how it is doing.

And that line graph going upwards speaks for itself on how the trend goes despite that we've been in several bear markets and other financial market corrections, it's still doing better than most of them.

Are we talking from a "cold perspective" or are we in a thread that relates to my bitcoin investing ideas?  Why would I give too many shits about "cold perspectives" if they seem to be failing/refusing to account for several of the various (and even basic) investment ideas that I have seemingly repeatedly gone over in this thread through the years?

At the same time, we are not talking about trading here.  Being motivated by the mere fact that your BTC holdings happen to be in profits seems to fall into the category of either trading or being lost from the perspective of this here cat.

Sure, there could be reasons that some guys might have less than a 10 year investment timeline in the event of age and/or health, yet really what would be the reason that you would be focusing on wanting to "take profits" merely because some portion of your bitcoin holdings happen to be "in profits"?


Fair enough that what you do and how you treat your bitcoin holdings relate to your perception of bitcoin and the strength of its investment thesis, which surely also relates to where you believe that the BTC price may or may not end up going... and surely it seems that any of us may well consider both upside and downside scenarios within any reasonable and prudent assessment of where we believe bitcoin prices may end up going as compared with other places that we might put our bitcoin value (whether investing or consumption).

By the way, your framing of "after a long few years from now" comes off as quite vague and even bordering upon meaningless - especially, since I specifically purposefully point out investing 4-10 years or longer, yet there are some underlying meanings to the way that I attempt to frame what I believe to be useful ways of considering bitcoin investment timelines, which I suppose could end up relating to whether we buy or we sell, yet it seems that so many guys who participate in this thread (which also seems to be you) seem to be quite early in their bitcoin accumulation process, so the selling portion of the consideration does not tend to become applicable since so many of the guys tend to be not even close to reaching enough bitcoin or even more than enough bitcoin.

At the same time, I surely can recognize and appreciate that even the concept of enough bitcoin or more than enough bitcoin could end up changing throughout the process of our bitcoin accumulation and/or even if we might have had come to assess that we had gotten through most of our bitcoin accumulation phase and entered into some form of maintenance phase (and I am not even go into the further stages of sustainable withdrawal and/or liquidation since those do not seem to be very relevant, even though they would end up starting to justify the selling of bitcoin - yet even maintenance phase could also start to trigger (or justify) abilities to sell some coins.. from the perspective of this here cat).


Yes.. You are showing your trading mindset and your trading way of framing matters.   After having several back and forth posts with me, haven't you at least done some back ground reading that might relate to the OP of this thread and/or various other threads that are linked in the OP?


Your story does not really add up.  Even a guy who had started buying $10 of bitcoin per week starting in January 2017 until now, he would have had invested $1,170 and his bitcoin holdings would be nearly 0.13 BTC, and surely that amount of BTC currently has value that is way over a couple of thousand dollars as you seem to be proclaiming to be the case with your supposedly "bitcoin guru" friend.

Do you have a bitcoin guru friend that would invest into bitcoin even more whimpily than $10 per month?  That does not seem accurate to me.


Sure.  Fair enough.  There are a lot of guys (including yours truly) who had ended up starting their bitcoin investment journey when bitcoin prices were at or near the top of the then cycle, and so if they continue to buy bitcoin, they likely end up in a quite good place some years down the road, even though in their beginning years, they may well have bitcoin holdings that are quite extensively in the negative (at least on paper) for a good amount of time before they either get to break even amounts (on paper) or even starting to be "in profits" as you seem to be inclined to focus on such "profits" as a motivator for yourself.

By the way, I am not too much of a subscriber to what seems to be relatively dumbass scenarios of guys who buy bitcoin at the top of the cycle and then  sit on their hands for several years waiting for their bitcoin holdings to get into profits.  

I understand that guys do dumbass shit, yet at the same time, in this thread, and in other places on the forum that I post, I am going to likely push back on any members who try to argue with me about scenarios about what I perceive to be dumbass guys who start their bitcoin investing journey at the top of the cycle and then sit on their hands for long periods of time waiting for their bitcoin holdings to "get back into profits."  Trolls, bitcoin naysayers, bitcoin trader, shitcoin pumpers and disingenuine posters seem to love to focus on scenarios of what dumbass people do in regards to buying at the top and sitting on their hands for long periods of time.


Some of your knowledge might be benefitted (and perhaps even benefit others too?) if you might read through some of the themes of this thread (starting from the various OPs), especially if you are wanting to purportedly share your knowledge in this thread.


There is no such thing as lump summing on the dip.

You are mixing up concepts when you are mixing terms like that, which likely makes it confusing for some other guys in terms of their own needs to make sure that they understand that buying the dip and lump sum are different concepts, and if you are mixing them up then guys are likely to get confused.

Even though guys can front load their bitcoin investment on dips, the way that you are using the expression "front load", you seem to be emphasizing buying the dip more than you are expressing some kind of meaningful understanding in regards to what frontloading into bitcoin tends to be in practice.

Throughout your post, it is just like you are randomly throwing various buzz words without really knowing what they mean or how to fit such buzzwords into a proper and meaningful description of what you are wanting to say, and in that regard, you even seem to get various of your buzzwords wrong in terms of whatever context that you ended up providing.


The ideas of these two paragraphs are largely correct, even though I frequently like to consider that managing our cashflows and deciding how much we are going to invest in bitcoin, save and/or discretionarily consume will ongoingly be influenced by our progress in building our bitcoin and our savings (back up funds), and so sure, if there might be some pay periods or even extended periods in which our income might end up going down and/or basic expenses end up going up, then we may well end up having to draw from our back up funds to cover our basic expenses.. which tend to be expenses that we cannot defer until our next pay period.  So the ideas that you contain in your second paragraph are not really incorrect, even though you mentioned discretionary consumption as if it were important in regards to the kinds of decisions that we might end up having to make in circumstances in which our income might be low and our basic expenses might go up.  I would speculate that anyone with any reasonable abilities to problem solve, he would have had already dropped his discretionary consumption during circumstances in which there are needs to tap into back up funds in order to cover basic expenses.. yet at the same time, if a person ends up having a lot of back up funds then they may well not be drawing their back up funds down to a low enough level in which it might have ended up becoming important to start to cut some or all of their discretionary consumption.


Having some kind of a presumption of privilege of combo strategy makes little to no sense, even if we might consider that you might be talking about an inability that many people have to actually employ either lump sum strategies and/or buy the dip strategies, since many normal people will largely be spending a lot of time merely relying upon their discretionary funds as they come in, and they may well not have very many circumstances in which either they have extra funds coming in and/or the quantity of the discretionary funds that they have available may well not amount to enough money in order to justify considering (or employing) either lump sum strategies or buy the dip strategies... so then if many folks are not really tending to get into situations in which lump sum and/or buy the dip starts to potentially make sense, they will tend to be much better off to largely stay focused on making sure that their ongoing DCA strategy (or regular BTC purchase amounts) remains appropriate for their income and/or cashflow situation.


I doubt that it is fair for you to assume or to presume that a bitcoin accumulator is accumulating more aggressively merely because he is deploying multiple strategies.  If you are ONLY relying on the fact that he is deploying more than one strategy and nothing else, then you do not have enough information to presume that he is being more aggressive as compared with someone who might be ONLY deploying DCA.  


That is not necessarily true.  Are you thinking about what you say or just making shit up?  I hear guys making these kinds of presumptions quite frequently, and they are not true if the ONLY thing that you know is that guy (1) is deploying DCA and guy (2) is deploying DCA, lump sum and buying the dip.  There is almost no way to know, without further details that guy 2 is being more aggressive (or smarter) than guy 1.  You seem to presume that guy 2 is smarter and/or more sophisticated than guy 1, which is also not true from the facts that we know about their differences.


Now you are getting really retarded if you believe that holding back funds in order to buy on the dip is more aggressive than regular DCA when more likely the opposite is true.

Face it.  You and some of the other guys who like to hold back money to buy dips that might not happen, you like to rationalize to yourself about your being smarter, more sophisticated and even more aggressive than a guy who is regularly, persistently, ongoing and consistently buying bitcoin.  Right?  

From my perspective, you kind of dip buying promoting guys are delusional and you are also spreading and promotiing incorrect information because you have a purpose to promote your own nonsense dip buying practices, while acting as if it is superior when the opposite tends to be true.


It sounds to me that you @Justbillywitt are bending over backwards to defend the dip buyer when such dip buyers do not really need any defense.

Most people that do doubt Bitcoin as a tool against inflation only consider short-term price movement, they don't usually look it in a long run because if they decide to look at it in a long run, they will know the truth and also know that no investment has goven more profits than Bitcoin investment in a long term since Bitcoin was created.
It is not too late to invest in Bitcoin because it is an investment that stores value, and holding for a long period of time will also give profit; the value it maintains is the reason why it always defeats inflation.

Ou seja, a estratégia de evitar as taxas de câmbio ou de evitar desvalorização da moeda, está a inflacionar os números?
Faz sentido.

A minha questão, o USDT também não paga impostos de mais valias ou coisa do género?

Those who doubt that Bitcoin cannot or is not worth fighting inflation are basically short-term thinkers or those who have invested in Bitcoin for the short term and have suffered losses due to volatility. Because I completely agree with what you said. If we look at the market from the past of Bitcoin to the present, we will see that every person has benefited a lot by investing in Bitcoin and Bitcoin has become one of the best assets to fight inflation.

Many people may say that they will invest in gold, yes they can invest in gold, but Bitcoin has become a much better asset than gold at present and if a person invests in Bitcoin, he will definitely benefit much more than gold if he is able to hold it in the long term.

Bitcoin is said to be a hedge against inflation, and that's not just a claim; it's based on Bitcoin's price history, which has increased over time. Don't look at it in the short term, but you need to look at it in the long term because short-term price movements can be volatile and may not reflect its performance as a long-term asset. But if you look at it in the long run, you can see that Bitcoin's price tends to go up. If you want proof, you can check out this picture:


https://bitcoindata.science/dca-calculator

Sim, provavelmente será algo que possa surgir daqui a uns 3 ou 4 anos.

Mas, se esta na ideia, vai surgir. Até porque ao que parece, é uma ideia que agrada a maioria dos Estados membros.

Maybe you can also post statistics how much customers are using new coins you listed.

I didnt notice this change, but than again I was not play so much dice games to notice this.
Bitcoin is probably still used the most, amd that is normal since it was as added first.