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1. Post 66975748 (unedited backup) (by mikel_012) (scraped on Fri Jul 24 21:25:37 CEST 2026) in DEX.fo — Automatic Crypto Exchange | No KYC/AML | BTC ETH XMR LTC DAI USDT | :
Unless you are in a hurry to spend the funds, long time for confirmations is not a problem at all.
Even with a zero confirmation transaction you can rest assured that the coins will arrive at your wallet, as the exchange already sent them..
The problem is the bitcoin price can move and you receive less because in 1 hour a lot can happen like world news
Another day I needed $200 but received $180 in another exchange because the confirmation was slow
2. Post 66974431 (unedited backup) (by philipma1957) (scraped on Fri Jul 24 13:54:43 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:
But don't think it's the right time to go all in
All in? Man, you should never go all in in any stock, specially this one.
Spacex is highly speculative, and the upside is limited.
Spacex was worth about 100 billion in 2022, that is about 15x in the last 4 years. You wont see even 3x in the next 4 years. The upside is limited now, and their plans are long term.
It is already a top 10 company in the world , but it is in red right now, they lost 5 billion just the first quarter this year.
SpaceX should definitely be a part of a diversified portfolio and not an all in target. I disagree about the lack of upside though. I think it will be the first $100,000,000,000,000 market cap company. Even after merging with SpaceX that would be a ~x35. I think it happens in the next 15 years. I would be happy with that return.
Diversification really have sense at all, but it seems that your projection is so ambitious or maybe to much. Since reaching at that level SpaceX needs huge revenue streams, massive global adoption on its technologies offered, also their execution will became so flawless on different industries.
No doubt that their performance or trajectory is truly impressive, but leaping on what you are describing requires a lot which so far If I'm not wrong no company has achieved those conditions.
If they succeed more in future, maybe success will became more massive. Although we cannot guarantee that it will happen.
3. Post 66974395 (unedited backup) (by arwin100) (scraped on Fri Jul 24 13:43:37 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:
But don't think it's the right time to go all in
All in? Man, you should never go all in in any stock, specially this one.
Spacex is highly speculative, and the upside is limited.
Spacex was worth about 100 billion in 2022, that is about 15x in the last 4 years. You wont see even 3x in the next 4 years. The upside is limited now, and their plans are long term.
It is already a top 10 company in the world , but it is in red right now, they lost 5 billion just the first quarter this year.
SpaceX should definitely be a part of a diversified portfolio and not an all in target. I disagree about the lack of upside though. I think it will be the first $100,000,000,000,000 market cap company. Even after merging with SpaceX that would be a ~x35. I think it happens in the next 15 years. I would be happy with that return.
Diversification really have sense at all, but it seems that your projection is so ambitious or maybe to much. Since reaching at that level SpaceX needs huge revenue streams, massive global adoption on its technologies offered, also their execution will became so flawless on different industries.
No doubt that their performance or trajectory is truly impressive, but leaping on what you are describing requires a lot which so far If I'm not wrong no company has achieved those conditions.
If they succeed more in future, maybe success will became more massive. Although we cannot guarantee that it will happen.
4. Post 66974329 (unedited backup) (by alexrossi) (scraped on Fri Jul 24 13:14:13 CEST 2026) in split paymant oque esperar?:
pra quem acredita que o dinheiro fisico vai acabar em breve:
como vc acham que a corrupcao vai continuar existir? Duvido que logo vai passar tudo em crypto
tem muita gente no poder que tem todo o interesse a deixar vivo o dinheiro em especie
Mas tu achas que a grande corrupção faz-se apenas com dinheiro físico? Claro que não.
Muita da corrupção nem envolve dinheiro, envolve "favores".
Algo como: tu fazes com que eu ganhe um concurso publico, e eu construo a tua casa. Ou, os jantares oficiais são feitos no meu restaurantes e pago menos impostos, e tu tens almoços/jantares familiares grátis.
Agora, claro que sempre vai existir pressão para o dinheiro físico não acabar. Essa gente que tu falas, irá até incentivar os populares a se manifestarem contra. Por isso, acho que essa narrativa do "controlar a população" surge tanto.
Aqui é outro nivel de corrupção... Quem dera se só roubassem jantares.
Aqui a galera compra navio de 1 bilhão de dólares e paga 6 bilhões e quando descobrem colocam sigilo de 100 anos nas informações.
Ou então descontam uma contribuição sindical (que nunca deveria existir) de todos os aposentados do país, e na verdade o dinheiro (1.6 bilhões de reais) vai direto pra conta do filho do presidente
Era só ilustrativo.
Mas esse dinheiro não é vivo, é movimentabdo fruto de um negócio. Que a primeira viste esta tudo bem, mas no final envolve um grande esquema...
Mas adicionado um bit amais no meu raciocínio, a corrupção de baixo nível é aquela mais comum
Sem ser favores millonarios que envolvem troca de ap ou coisas do tipo, se é negocio de 1000 - 10000 - 20000 reais, mto facilmente vai ser feito em dinheiro
Sem falar da questão do rastreamento, ate para usos legítimos porem privados, que acredito seja um fator para o dinheiro em especie sobreviver
5. Post 66973628 (unedited backup) (by OgNasty) (scraped on Fri Jul 24 07:48:49 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:
But don't think it's the right time to go all in
All in? Man, you should never go all in in any stock, specially this one.
Spacex is highly speculative, and the upside is limited.
Spacex was worth about 100 billion in 2022, that is about 15x in the last 4 years. You wont see even 3x in the next 4 years. The upside is limited now, and their plans are long term.
It is already a top 10 company in the world , but it is in red right now, they lost 5 billion just the first quarter this year.
SpaceX should definitely be a part of a diversified portfolio and not an all in target. I disagree about the lack of upside though. I think it will be the first $100,000,000,000,000 market cap company. Even after merging with SpaceX that would be a ~x35. I think it happens in the next 15 years. I would be happy with that return.
6. Post 66973465 (unedited backup) (by bitbollo) (scraped on Fri Jul 24 05:12:07 CEST 2026) in DEX.fo — Automatic Crypto Exchange | No KYC/AML | BTC ETH XMR LTC DAI USDT | :
Unless you are in a hurry to spend the funds, long time for confirmations is not a problem at all.
...
Interesting point, it's something that must keep in mind using exchanges and third party wallet.
Just because they can accept deposit ONLY with a specific timeframe or they accept deposit with a specific change of USD/BTC.
Best option (peace of mind
) use a wallet and keep it all easy.
7. Post 66973444 (unedited backup) (by SamReomo) (scraped on Fri Jul 24 05:00:49 CEST 2026) in DEX.fo — Automatic Crypto Exchange | No KYC/AML | BTC ETH XMR LTC DAI USDT | :
Unless you are in a hurry to spend the funds, long time for confirmations is not a problem at all.
Even with a zero confirmation transaction you can rest assured that the coins will arrive at your wallet, as the exchange already sent them..
When it comes to genuine exchanges like Dex.fo then it makes sense to wait sometime to get the funds. Since sometimes network can be congested and that means a transaction will take some time but most probably those transactions get completed on time.
Only in few cases, transactions can take sometime, in most cases they get completed in short time. For Bitcoin transactions one has to wait at least 10-40 minutes as that's the most probable time frame to have confirmations if network isn't congested.
8. Post 66973256 (unedited backup) (by jpouza) (scraped on Fri Jul 24 02:00:19 CEST 2026) in [OT] BYD Dolphin G híbrido:
Agora sim, eu acho que temos um modelo matador da concorrencia
Sempre duvidei dos elétricos no brasil pela utilização majoritária que faço: cidade na semana mas no final sempre viagem, sempre pensando na questão de abastecer o elétrico em qualquer lugar (Longe de ser realidade no br).
é inegavel que ter uma bateria elétrica para os pequenos deslocamentos na cidade é ótimo, inclusive é aonde o motor térmico sofre mais, mas sempre fiquei com duvidas em relação a ser um carro principal (o único ne, porque nem todo mundo pode ter dois carros), e os híbridos atuais estavam com o preço la encima
Dizem que esse dolphin vai chegar a 130mil reais. Eu acho que vai vender muito.
Já está vendendo muito, apesar de todos os problemas que você citou. Mas ainda não vende mais do que o Strada ou o HB20 e outros modelos mais estabelecidos... mas é um crescimento impressionante.
Aqui no Brasil ainda não chegaram nem as ferrovias, tecnologia do século XIX, imagina postos pra abastecer carros elétricos
Acho que funciona bem pra Uber e pra quem não vai nunca fazer uma viagem de carro, ou ir pra cidades vizinhas no dia a dia, por conta das dimensões do Brasil.
Poise, ate esse hibrido chegar, eu também apesar de reconhecer a qualidade de fabricacao do chines, nao era atraído por ser 100% eletrico
Agora de verdade tudo muda, eu com certeza futuramente vou considerar, após ver algumas avaliações sobre o desempenho do térmico + elétrico
Já tive carro híbrido convencional (HEV) flex fuel...pra BR OK o uso.
Quanto aos PHEV (Plugin Hybrid) prefiro acompanhar mais uns anos acerca da infraestrutura de carregamento, em especial os carregamentos rápidos e ultra rápidos, que não tem em qualquer lugar e que não é qualquer carro que aceita. Embora reconheça que em SP tem aberto mais eletro postos particulares.
Agora, se a pessoa tem o wallbox devidamente instalado/dimensionado em casa, aí fica menos esse problema na conta, só restando pensar no que será a revenda destes carros num leque de 5 anos ou mais.
9. Post 66973044 (unedited backup) (by Odogwu-Blockchain) (scraped on Fri Jul 24 00:27:55 CEST 2026) in Crypto Tracking:
Companies such as Telegram, the seller of the phone number, CoinEx will only share your information if you have done something illegal and authorities are looking for you.
Companies won't share their customer information just because someone asked.
Exactly, why would OP be having this kind of thought and question, I am not trying to accuse him of scamming but is it what he is discussing with his planning to do, while knowing what will happen if he does from the forum?
The question seems like a plan that had been set on ground, whether if he strike, it may backfire, so him trying to know the future is the reason why he comes on here.
If that's your plan OP, don't do it, it's never worth it.
10. Post 66972904 (unedited backup) (by Ambatman) (scraped on Thu Jul 23 23:36:07 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:
I dont know yet.
But it is still heavily overpriced imo, too much risk.
It is still a 1.6T marketcap company. I wouldnt enter anything higher than 1 T, so probably only in $ 60-80 range....
I think same too
Though I have gotten some unit so as not to mix any if it doesn't fall below $100
I'm optimistic about it
But don't think it's the right time to go all in
The hype was alot and definitely overpriced what I can say is those shorting are taking a huge risk.
11. Post 66972872 (unedited backup) (by Stalker22) (scraped on Thu Jul 23 23:28:19 CEST 2026) in Crypto Tracking:
Companies won't share their customer information just because someone asked.
They might. Okay, not exactly if anyone asks, but if the request comes from a legitimate authority many companies will cooperate without much fuss. Its none of their business whether you did something illegal or not - thats up to the courts to decide.
@hack3rcon, its probably not the brightest idea to ask for instructions online if you are already planning on doing something illegal. Just saying.
12. Post 66972730 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Thu Jul 23 22:49:31 CEST 2026) in Analysis:
And, by the way, weren't you (@bitmover) working on some tweaks to a new fuck you status page/tool that we might be able to agree to go public with? or maybe I missed some of the latests tweaks to such new tool that might be in my court...
Many of us likely realize that when the BTC prices are depressed (like currently), then guys are not really thinking about fuck you status as frequently and obsessively as when BTC prices start to recover and then when the BTC prices start to move up, then guys start to more frequently imagine ways in which they might be able to quit their jobs and fuel their current lifestyles (or their future fantasy lifestyles) with the bounds of their current bitcoin holdings and/or their future anticipated bitcoin holdings.
I am expecting your reviews to make it public! Do you think we can make it public already?
That URL is working, we can already share it.
I was waiting for you to respond to our latest interactions.. Maybe we can take this to PMs..
13. Post 66972581 (unedited backup) (by Forsyth Jones) (scraped on Thu Jul 23 22:12:14 CEST 2026) in Pix e Bitcoin, essa comparação faz sentido?:
Mas para comprar café da manhã não vale muito por que tem que ficar esperando confirmações e a taxa é alta considerando o valor
Há quanto tempo que estamos pagando 1 sat/vB por transação ou até abaixo de 1 sat/vB? Já tem mais de 2 anos? Está barato demais transacionar com Bitcoin.
Também vejo dessa forma. O PIX e o Bitcoin atendem propostas bem diferentes. O PIX ganhou o dia a dia porque é extremamente mais prático, mas isso não muda os motivos que levam alguém a usar Bitcoin. E para pagamentos, acho que stablecoins têm muito mais potencial do que o próprio Bitcoin.
stablecoins pode ser mais prático, mas é quase a mesma coisa que o PIX, é centralizado, pode ser confiscado, por que não usar o Bitcoin de uma vez, que além de barato é descentralizado? Usar stablecoins pode ser útil em cenário de bear market como estamos agora.
Bitcoin já começa com a "complexidade" de você ter que fazer a autocustódia, o que já é demais para muitos, se colocar uma LN para eles operar ainda... esquece, PIX sempre ganha
Acho que esse tem realmente sido o maior entrave para uma maior adopção do Bitcoin.
Num mundo onde as pessoas querem as coisas cada vez mais simples, o Bitcoin ainda é complexo, principalmente numa fase inicial.
Sim, o tempo de transação pode ser chato em alguns cenários, mas existem muitos cenários que isso não é uma questão.
Baixar uma carteira, fazer backup (anotar uma senha de 12/24 palavras), definir uma senha pra carteira é complicado? Depois de ter feito essa configuração inicial, fica literalmente a mesma coisa que o PIX pra usar: escanear QR code, copia e cola chaves/endereços.
Esses dias fui abrir uma conta no banco do brasil, só faltou me pedir prova de vida e ainda sim me recusaram.
POis é cara, eu uso 100% cartão de crédito também, eu sinceramente nunca vou conseguir entender a lógica de uma pessoa pagar as coisas no PIX por exemplo ao invés de usar o cartão de débito, que é praticamente a mesma coisa, cara eu fico muito puto quando vou no mercado por exemplo, uma fila enorme e a pessoa resolve pagar a compra no pix, tipo, geralmente o sujeito ainda ta sem internet, ai pede a senha ao caixa... loga no banco, aponta QR code, digita senha etc etc.... não seria mais fácil por o cartão de debito e ser feliz? outra coisa, acho totalmente bizarro a pessoa em ambiente publico abrir a conta bancária perto de várias pessoas estranhas para usar pix... pra mim pix serve pra mandar dinheiro rapido e facil pra outras pessoas e no maximo pagar uns boletos de forma mais ágil, já que é tudo meio instantâneo... fora desse cenário, apenas cartão de crédito - débito.
POis é, pix é útil pra pagamentos de contas, transferências em dinheiro, mas é muito monitorado e vai ficar ainda pior com o split payment, acho que o pix deve perder popularidade e as pessoas vão entender o quão ruim é o pix pra privacidade, uma ferramenta de vigilância, eu uso porque sou obrigado a usar.
Depende do uso.
Pra receber em campanhas de assinaturas no forum é mil vezes melhor do que pix.
Vc ia preferir dar seu CPF pra um gerente da winna ou de um mixer pra receber pagamentos e postar no fórum? Depois pagar 1.1% de iof e 5% de spread pro banco?
E se vc estiver viajando no exterior e quiser pagar 20 dolares pra uma pessoa por um motivo aleatorio, que nao aceite cartao de crédito.
Ou pra comprar coisas na Internet, como um domínio ou pagar a conta de um servidor na digital ocean. Bitcoin é mais rapido ou barato do que visa, pix, qualquer coisa que vc imaginar.
Pode ser ruim pra pagar por im cafezinho, mas quantas vezes por dia voce toma cafezinho na rua? Eu nao tomo quase nunca
Exatamente, cada coisa é melhor pra um tipo de uso:
Pix: pagamento de contas, transferência de dinheiro de pessoa para pessoa ou empresas.
Bitcoin: pra quem quiser ter maior privacidade, investimento a médio-longo prazo visando retornos, mas é imprevisível, ideal pra quem gosta de renda variável. Pagamento de serviços internacionais são mais aceitos, exemplos são os que você citou.
Stablecoins: é melhor que o pix, mas definitivamente não tem a mesma privacidade e não é descentralizado como o Bitcoin.
14. Post 66972109 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Thu Jul 23 19:30:37 CEST 2026) in split paymant oque esperar?:
pra quem acredita que o dinheiro fisico vai acabar em breve:
como vc acham que a corrupcao vai continuar existir? Duvido que logo vai passar tudo em crypto
tem muita gente no poder que tem todo o interesse a deixar vivo o dinheiro em especie
Mas tu achas que a grande corrupção faz-se apenas com dinheiro físico? Claro que não.
Muita da corrupção nem envolve dinheiro, envolve "favores".
Algo como: tu fazes com que eu ganhe um concurso publico, e eu construo a tua casa. Ou, os jantares oficiais são feitos no meu restaurantes e pago menos impostos, e tu tens almoços/jantares familiares grátis.
Agora, claro que sempre vai existir pressão para o dinheiro físico não acabar. Essa gente que tu falas, irá até incentivar os populares a se manifestarem contra. Por isso, acho que essa narrativa do "controlar a população" surge tanto.
Aqui é outro nivel de corrupção... Quem dera se só roubassem jantares.
Aqui a galera compra navio de 1 bilhão de dólares e paga 6 bilhões e quando descobrem colocam sigilo de 100 anos nas informações.
Ou então descontam uma contribuição sindical (que nunca deveria existir) de todos os aposentados do país, e na verdade o dinheiro (1.6 bilhões de reais) vai direto pra conta do filho do presidente
Era só ilustrativo.
Mas esse dinheiro não é vivo, é movimentabdo fruto de um negócio. Que a primeira viste esta tudo bem, mas no final envolve um grande esquema...
15. Post 66971984 (unedited backup) (by alexrossi) (scraped on Thu Jul 23 18:41:37 CEST 2026) in [OT] BYD Dolphin G híbrido:
Agora sim, eu acho que temos um modelo matador da concorrencia
Sempre duvidei dos elétricos no brasil pela utilização majoritária que faço: cidade na semana mas no final sempre viagem, sempre pensando na questão de abastecer o elétrico em qualquer lugar (Longe de ser realidade no br).
é inegavel que ter uma bateria elétrica para os pequenos deslocamentos na cidade é ótimo, inclusive é aonde o motor térmico sofre mais, mas sempre fiquei com duvidas em relação a ser um carro principal (o único ne, porque nem todo mundo pode ter dois carros), e os híbridos atuais estavam com o preço la encima
Dizem que esse dolphin vai chegar a 130mil reais. Eu acho que vai vender muito.
Já está vendendo muito, apesar de todos os problemas que você citou. Mas ainda não vende mais do que o Strada ou o HB20 e outros modelos mais estabelecidos... mas é um crescimento impressionante.
Aqui no Brasil ainda não chegaram nem as ferrovias, tecnologia do século XIX, imagina postos pra abastecer carros elétricos
Acho que funciona bem pra Uber e pra quem não vai nunca fazer uma viagem de carro, ou ir pra cidades vizinhas no dia a dia, por conta das dimensões do Brasil.
Poise, ate esse hibrido chegar, eu também apesar de reconhecer a qualidade de fabricacao do chines, nao era atraído por ser 100% eletrico
Agora de verdade tudo muda, eu com certeza futuramente vou considerar, após ver algumas avaliações sobre o desempenho do térmico + elétrico
16. Post 66971354 (unedited backup) (by Wind_FURY) (scraped on Thu Jul 23 15:34:31 CEST 2026) in Analysis:
The data is not complete because it's still being made through the completion of the Bear Cycle, which if the Four-Year-Cycle is still intact, then "the bottom" will be in October/November, 2026. IF it's NOT intact, then probably the bottom already happened OR we'll probably experience a longer Bear Cycle and lower bottom than what we'll see in October/November, no?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I found this chart which reminded me of this topic
Lets see how will this cycle go
There's merely three/four more months until October/November. Although buying NOW is good because Bitcoin is currently trading near its 200-Weekly SMA Line, another drawdown would be another Golden Opportunity for many plebs IF the Four-Year-Cycle is still intact.
17. Post 66970358 (unedited backup) (by LoyceV) (scraped on Thu Jul 23 09:53:55 CEST 2026) in LoyceV's Merit data analysis (full data since Jan. 24, 2018; not just 120 days):
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1516833251 1 178336.msg28849600 479624 172400
1516833237 1 2677441.msg28778318 123412 1090430
1516833230 1 2814078.msg28796083 520313 881377
1516833207 1 2772292.msg28837085 1189487 1028592
1516833203 1 2818066.msg28855136 101872 520313
1516833199 1 2818066.msg28853325 926641 877396
1516833148 1 2808926.msg28793321 78147 35
1516833148 1 2634042.msg28672219 123412 1094601
1516833111 1 2818066.msg28855136 535215 520313
1516833078 45 2813828.msg28801076 135920 101872
1516833070 1 2818066.msg28855136 881377 520313
1516833049 1 2677441.msg28848945 88254 903139
1516833048 1 2818066.msg28855136 101872 520313
1516833044 5 2818066.msg28855019 135920 688810
1516833001 5 2813828.msg28801076 135920 101872
1516832978 1 2384335.msg28854772 1344962 1101839
1516832969 1 2818066.msg28855136 881564 520313
1516832953 1 2818066.msg28854621 520313 101872
1516832934 1 2818066.msg28855136 877396 520313
1516832874 1 178608.msg28792130 884600 35
1516832842 5 2818066.msg28853325 688810 877396
1516832833 2 178336.msg28852079 479624 1257516
1516831941 1 2818066.msg28853325 35 877396
Full list* (57 MB) (not limited to 120 days, 2087 Merit transactions added since my previous update).
theymos' data (human readable format, including usernames and post titles)SampleOn Fri 17 Jul 2026 04:29:14 AM CEST,
Kryptowerk (
history) sent 2 Merit to
Swatcheesehead (
history) for
Re: Rare Squirrelbits peeled not swept question.
On Fri 17 Jul 2026 03:43:52 AM CEST,
victorhing (
history) sent 10 Merit to
SamReomo (
history) for
Re: 👑 CoinRoyale.com - Original Bitcoin Casino | Trusted Since 2013 ✔️.
On Fri 17 Jul 2026 03:39:09 AM CEST,
Peanutswar (
history) sent 1 Merit to
AHOYBRAUSE (
history) for
Re: 🐳 Whale.io - Casino & Sportsbook 💰 Daily Cashbacks 💰.
On Fri 17 Jul 2026 03:14:17 AM CEST,
vapourminer (
history) sent 1 Merit to
BobLawblaw (
history) for
Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion.
On Fri 17 Jul 2026 03:14:15 AM CEST,
vapourminer (
history) sent 1 Merit to
shahzadafzal (
history) for
Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion.
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On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:28:54 PM CET,
AdolfinWolf (
history) sent 1 Merit to
Lutpin (
history) for
Re: What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:54 PM CET,
Dahman El_Harrachi (
history) sent 1 Merit to
theymos (
history) for
Re: Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?).
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:22 PM CET,
Tyrantt (
history) sent 5 Merit to
AdolfinWolf (
history) for
What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:13 PM CET,
Last of the V8s (
history) sent 2 Merit to
Rosewater Foundation (
history) for
Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:12:21 PM CET,
theymos (
history) sent 1 Merit to
AdolfinWolf (
history) for
What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
Full list (603 MB)
Usernames to go with theymos' dataSample0:
deMerit (Bitcoin Forum) (
history) earned: 0 Merit.
3:
satoshi (
history) earned: 8775 Merit.
4:
sirius (
history) earned: 935 Merit.
10:
Xunie (
history) earned: 1 Merit.
11:
madhatter (
history) earned: 16 Merit.
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3762178:
Bamskki (
history) earned: 4 Merit.
3762184:
xiaoyu1222006 (
history) earned: 1 Merit.
3762314:
apide01 (
history) earned: 2 Merit.
3762360:
Midisk (
history) earned: 1 Merit.
3762435:
exWhale (
history) earned: 1 Merit.
Full list* (10 MB)
Usernames machine readableSample0: deMerit (Bitcoin Forum)
3: satoshi
4: sirius
10: Xunie
11: madhatter
12: nanaimogold
13: SmokeTooMuch
14: The Madhatter
21: AgoraMutual
23: 1 currency now
24: dwdollar
26: NewLibertyStandard
27: riX
28: Sabunir
29: giik
30: BitcoinFX
31: Suggester
33: m0mchil
34: BlueSky
35: theymos
37: soultcer
40: xc
42: ec
49: Cdecker
51: DannyM
97: dsg
101: Goldstein
143: laszlo
145: ducki2p
146: Brandon
163: Karmicads
182: Derrick
183: hugolp
198: allinvain
203: HostFat
206: teppy
217: SirArthur
224: Gavin Andresen
237: lachesis
241: QuantumMechanic
244: nixoid
251: wobber
262: chaord
267: virtualcoin
269: Bitcoiner
270: llama
271: Timo Y
274: limikael
284: joey.rich
288: Stone Man
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3759272: WhatareYou
3759370: ArkonSwap
3759379: Crypto gbeegbe
3759389: Antidote47k
3759454: Nwaswago
3759482: Ribust
3759517: satsinesat
3759555: DroidDesk
3759560: hellowaza
3759674: VarJames
3759725: godisreal
3759766: KingVesting
3759808: Kannibal Hektor
3760211: 0xHashRaptor
3760228: lll555
3760243: proofra
3760275: Neha2399
3760276: DragonBites
3760305: redtrusts
3760506: smf24
3760625: gijane
3760686: legendo
3760707: aodrbxo
3760791: swedoc
3760817: lastpixellive
3760902: borrowonbitcoin
3760961: Ethereum1
3761001: buffetto
3761071: Droppies
3761141: paidfully
3761153: mickpaoli
3761170: Soulistic
3761237: IsItMiCACompliant
3761238: xmrbro
3761348: Gmax98005
3761385: shaketank
3761497: niso23
3761530: Priamex.com
3761538: Benedesuuuk
3761595: Khaleedmaine
3761676: Lytvynets1
3761774: scoorched
3761923: Korvane.io
3761990: Alex_Yann(Hammer Miner)
3761992: Diceftw
3762178: Bamskki
3762184: xiaoyu1222006
3762314: apide01
3762360: Midisk
3762435: exWhale
Full list (2 MB)
UserIDs, sent Merit and earned Merit machine readableSample0:569:0
3:0:8775
4:0:935
10:0:1
11:0:16
12:0:1
13:3:96
14:0:13
21:0:2
23:0:1
24:0:9
26:0:19
27:0:54
28:0:13
29:0:4
30:380:800
31:0:1
33:0:27
34:0:4
35:14430:14706
37:0:6
40:0:4
42:0:69
49:0:5
51:0:2
97:0:2
101:0:2
143:0:2742
145:0:2
146:0:4
163:0:21
182:1:0
183:9:1
198:2:87
203:68:311
206:0:14
217:3:36
224:0:1492
237:0:6
241:0:9
244:0:1
251:0:1
262:0:1
267:0:2
269:0:2
270:0:57
271:0:1
274:0:42
284:0:6
288:0:11
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3759272:0:2
3759370:0:1
3759379:0:1
3759389:0:18
3759454:0:1
3759482:4:19
3759517:0:2
3759555:0:1
3759560:0:2
3759674:0:3
3759725:0:1
3759766:0:4
3759808:10:37
3760211:0:5
3760228:0:1
3760243:0:5
3760275:0:2
3760276:0:2
3760305:0:3
3760506:0:1
3760625:0:1
3760686:0:2
3760707:0:3
3760791:0:1
3760817:0:5
3760902:0:3
3760961:0:2
3761001:0:2
3761071:0:2
3761141:0:1
3761153:0:1
3761170:1:5
3761237:0:3
3761238:0:4
3761348:0:1
3761385:0:1
3761497:0:10
3761530:0:11
3761538:1:11
3761595:0:5
3761676:0:2
3761774:0:1
3761923:0:1
3761990:0:1
3761992:0:1
3762178:0:4
3762184:0:1
3762314:0:2
3762360:0:1
3762435:0:1
Full list (1 MB)
Total number of users who received 1 or more Merit: 51590Sample 1. 21306 Merit received by LoyceV (#459836) from 1118 unique users in 12330 transactions
2. 21020 Merit received by fillippone (#1852120) from 765 unique users in 11506 transactions
3. 18897 Merit received by o_e_l_e_o (#1188543) from 801 unique users in 9988 transactions
4. 15615 Merit received by El duderino_ (#1067333) from 480 unique users in 8960 transactions
5. 14706 Merit received by theymos (#35) from 1225 unique users in 5344 transactions
6. 13754 Merit received by JayJuanGee (#252510) from 732 unique users in 9065 transactions
7. 12993 Merit received by icopress (#1137579) from 608 unique users in 4876 transactions
8. 11995 Merit received by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) from 500 unique users in 6613 transactions
9. 11957 Merit received by Symmetrick (#2627711) from 773 unique users in 6854 transactions
10. 11830 Merit received by cygan (#27470) from 529 unique users in 6088 transactions
11. 11377 Merit received by pooya87 (#379147) from 613 unique users in 6621 transactions
12. 11371 Merit received by DdmrDdmr (#1582324) from 655 unique users in 6470 transactions
13. 11244 Merit received by philipma1957 (#64507) from 587 unique users in 6462 transactions
14. 10403 Merit received by xhomerx10 (#120694) from 331 unique users in 5315 transactions
15. 10306 Merit received by nutildah (#317618) from 660 unique users in 5581 transactions
16. 10175 Merit received by TryNinja (#557798) from 560 unique users in 4534 transactions
17. 10064 Merit received by GazetaBitcoin (#1285797) from 404 unique users in 3490 transactions
18. 10026 Merit received by gmaxwell (#11425) from 341 unique users in 3688 transactions
19. 9940 Merit received by BlackHatCoiner (#2775483) from 469 unique users in 4976 transactions
20. 9898 Merit received by d5000 (#85033) from 454 unique users in 5404 transactions
21. 9885 Merit received by NotATether (#2739424) from 535 unique users in 4550 transactions
22. 9205 Merit received by ABCbits (#359716) from 543 unique users in 4979 transactions
23. 8905 Merit received by nc50lc (#1237156) from 410 unique users in 4591 transactions
24. 8876 Merit received by Pmalek (#112493) from 585 unique users in 5250 transactions
25. 8775 Merit received by satoshi (#3) from 412 unique users in 932 transactions
26. 8763 Merit received by dkbit98 (#1410401) from 456 unique users in 5191 transactions
27. 8542 Merit received by suchmoon (#234771) from 573 unique users in 4859 transactions
28. 8154 Merit received by Rikafip (#2658890) from 460 unique users in 4470 transactions
29. 7625 Merit received by bitmover (#1554927) from 592 unique users in 4522 transactions
30. 7613 Merit received by 1miau (#2143453) from 496 unique users in 4137 transactions
31. 7290 Merit received by AlcoHoDL (#998490) from 202 unique users in 4200 transactions
32. 7213 Merit received by PowerGlove (#3486361) from 234 unique users in 1857 transactions
33. 7198 Merit received by mikeywith (#2033515) from 405 unique users in 3671 transactions
34. 6912 Merit received by cAPSLOCK (#35501) from 229 unique users in 3960 transactions
35. 6900 Merit received by DaveF (#300014) from 386 unique users in 3498 transactions
36. 6811 Merit received by hosemary (#995810) from 399 unique users in 3743 transactions
37. 6764 Merit received by joker_josue (#97582) from 346 unique users in 3175 transactions
38. 6763 Merit received by achow101 (#290195) from 278 unique users in 3039 transactions
39. 6727 Merit received by Hhampuz (#881377) from 955 unique users in 4377 transactions
40. 6677 Merit received by stompix (#164749) from 487 unique users in 3699 transactions
41. 6610 Merit received by Lucius (#533583) from 529 unique users in 3818 transactions
42. 6462 Merit received by OmegaStarScream (#375981) from 429 unique users in 3535 transactions
43. 6447 Merit received by Hueristic (#198573) from 206 unique users in 3733 transactions
44. 6444 Merit received by Charles-Tim (#2776678) from 435 unique users in 3765 transactions
45. 6363 Merit received by The Sceptical Chymist (#487418) from 626 unique users in 3582 transactions
46. 6268 Merit received by NeuroticFish (#257071) from 461 unique users in 3492 transactions
47. 6264 Merit received by jeremypwr (#137185) from 221 unique users in 3642 transactions
48. 6086 Merit received by n0nce (#3373858) from 196 unique users in 2648 transactions
49. 5753 Merit received by DireWolfM14 (#2003859) from 396 unique users in 2726 transactions
50. 5736 Merit received by lovesmayfamilis (#1982152) from 460 unique users in 4032 transactions
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51541. 1 Merit received by 1ceStorm (#2342907) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51542. 1 Merit received by 1ce (#1019784) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51543. 1 Merit received by 1camtron (#1236351) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51544. 1 Merit received by 1apayment (#1855631) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51545. 1 Merit received by 1907KFY (#1935217) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51546. 1 Merit received by 16xypjnxlrew (#2705665) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51547. 1 Merit received by 16tonn (#3560052) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51548. 1 Merit received by 15horses1donkey (#560958) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51549. 1 Merit received by 15519028115Q (#3575647) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51550. 1 Merit received by 15262kk (#291561) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51551. 1 Merit received by 14z4rus (#3669471) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51552. 1 Merit received by 1453ist (#1431126) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51553. 1 Merit received by 1453eko (#1431103) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51554. 1 Merit received by 13Winter13 (#919666) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51555. 1 Merit received by 13ex07 (#1207068) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51556. 1 Merit received by 13dizel (#1208678) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51557. 1 Merit received by 1357924680 (#333305) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51558. 1 Merit received by 12tribes (#1221082) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51559. 1 Merit received by 12assa34 (#1729394) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51560. 1 Merit received by 123tm (#848549) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51561. 1 Merit received by 123pogi123 (#2252156) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51562. 1 Merit received by 123exo123 (#1919155) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51563. 1 Merit received by 112_blockchain (#2081987) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51564. 1 Merit received by 11:11pas (#1306783) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51565. 1 Merit received by 1083ivangod (#1952712) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51566. 1 Merit received by 101Crypta (#1287691) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51567. 1 Merit received by 100x (#80115) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51568. 1 Merit received by 100steeze (#3637720) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51569. 1 Merit received by 100%_Shared_FreeBitco.in (#2531436) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51570. 1 Merit received by 100monet (#323057) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51571. 1 Merit received by 1000x (#3509491) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51572. 1 Merit received by 1000usdforwife (#1547718) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51573. 1 Merit received by 1000alasan (#2458354) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51574. 1 Merit received by 0xMuted (#3713926) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51575. 1 Merit received by 0xBrian (#2625170) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51576. 1 Merit received by 0xb100d (#1342964) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51577. 1 Merit received by 0x77 (#3316521) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51578. 1 Merit received by 0x1Knowledge (#2000899) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51579. 1 Merit received by 0vx (#2805438) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51580. 1 Merit received by 0RajA0 (#1151527) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51581. 1 Merit received by 0nion (#3614135) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51582. 1 Merit received by 0bit (#493268) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51583. 1 Merit received by 063Myxa (#1432563) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51584. 1 Merit received by 05btc (#2050202) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51585. 1 Merit received by 00RedBlack00 (#2527578) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51586. 1 Merit received by 00hello (#2471124) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51587. 1 Merit received by $--Perfect. Exchange-$. (#1140007) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51588. 1 Merit received by $imple$imon (#2060672) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51589. 1 Merit received by $BitMakeR$ (#1166812) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51590. 0 Merit received by gwsukabokepjepang (#2536607) from 2 unique users in 2 transactions
Full list (5 MB)
Total number of users who gave away 1 or more sMerit: 26710Sample 1. 76570 Merit sent by El duderino_ (#1067333) to 909 unique users in 13047 transactions
2. 71570 Merit sent by fillippone (#1852120) to 2297 unique users in 31340 transactions
3. 68943 Merit sent by LoyceV (#459836) to 3347 unique users in 18039 transactions
4. 62037 Merit sent by JayJuanGee (#252510) to 3650 unique users in 59801 transactions
5. 60235 Merit sent by ABCbits (#359716) to 4725 unique users in 34479 transactions
6. 53596 Merit sent by vapourminer (#33156) to 3779 unique users in 36950 transactions
7. 45291 Merit sent by hugeblack (#1059082) to 2920 unique users in 16040 transactions
8. 41808 Merit sent by suchmoon (#234771) to 2887 unique users in 9159 transactions
9. 38936 Merit sent by xandry (#382413) to 2542 unique users in 14486 transactions
10. 38325 Merit sent by DdmrDdmr (#1582324) to 2964 unique users in 31048 transactions
11. 35693 Merit sent by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) to 1597 unique users in 14176 transactions
12. 33333 Merit sent by Symmetrick (#2627711) to 2254 unique users in 16803 transactions
13. 33211 Merit sent by klarki (#407174) to 2195 unique users in 11361 transactions
14. 32797 Merit sent by The Sceptical Chymist (#487418) to 1491 unique users in 10452 transactions
15. 29855 Merit sent by EFS (#140584) to 1464 unique users in 7818 transactions
16. 29224 Merit sent by Welsh (#84521) to 1730 unique users in 6844 transactions
17. 26646 Merit sent by o_e_l_e_o (#1188543) to 2510 unique users in 9360 transactions
18. 25901 Merit sent by 1miau (#2143453) to 1317 unique users in 11630 transactions
19. 25072 Merit sent by qwk (#24140) to 603 unique users in 6491 transactions
20. 23288 Merit sent by pooya87 (#379147) to 1386 unique users in 9544 transactions
21. 22424 Merit sent by dbshck (#153634) to 1314 unique users in 6442 transactions
22. 18121 Merit sent by NotATether (#2739424) to 1776 unique users in 4082 transactions
23. 17005 Merit sent by Julien_Olynpic (#1166480) to 568 unique users in 7993 transactions
24. 16795 Merit sent by Vispilio (#982288) to 753 unique users in 6240 transactions
25. 16566 Merit sent by nutildah (#317618) to 1749 unique users in 7582 transactions
26. 16358 Merit sent by Pmalek (#112493) to 1202 unique users in 9352 transactions
27. 16248 Merit sent by Halab (#1053119) to 2006 unique users in 6605 transactions
28. 15275 Merit sent by Foxpup (#55384) to 642 unique users in 5489 transactions
29. 15085 Merit sent by bitmover (#1554927) to 1331 unique users in 8489 transactions
30. 14589 Merit sent by philipma1957 (#64507) to 1691 unique users in 7627 transactions
31. 14430 Merit sent by theymos (#35) to 1107 unique users in 1768 transactions
32. 14366 Merit sent by OgNasty (#18321) to 3162 unique users in 7557 transactions
33. 13595 Merit sent by krogothmanhattan (#1000199) to 665 unique users in 3641 transactions
34. 13446 Merit sent by dkbit98 (#1410401) to 1151 unique users in 8220 transactions
35. 13408 Merit sent by NeuroticFish (#257071) to 834 unique users in 6289 transactions
36. 13397 Merit sent by CryptopreneurBrainboss (#1052091) to 1359 unique users in 7433 transactions
37. 13393 Merit sent by paxmao (#1192397) to 1307 unique users in 5907 transactions
38. 13228 Merit sent by BlackHatCoiner (#2775483) to 849 unique users in 4297 transactions
39. 12114 Merit sent by chimk (#1202061) to 757 unique users in 4369 transactions
40. 11925 Merit sent by d5000 (#85033) to 1197 unique users in 6521 transactions
41. 10800 Merit sent by mikeywith (#2033515) to 548 unique users in 3984 transactions
42. 8734 Merit sent by DarkStar_ (#507936) to 971 unique users in 2196 transactions
43. 8712 Merit sent by bones261 (#452769) to 1032 unique users in 4239 transactions
44. 8632 Merit sent by Hueristic (#198573) to 585 unique users in 7357 transactions
45. 8560 Merit sent by Coolcryptovator (#1980983) to 1064 unique users in 3715 transactions
46. 8543 Merit sent by Buchi-88 (#204821) to 758 unique users in 7398 transactions
47. 8397 Merit sent by babo (#65636) to 523 unique users in 6638 transactions
48. 8387 Merit sent by BobLawblaw (#569455) to 333 unique users in 3379 transactions
49. 8216 Merit sent by OmegaStarScream (#375981) to 959 unique users in 3587 transactions
50. 8013 Merit sent by Xal0lex (#1068464) to 668 unique users in 2490 transactions
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26661. 1 Merit sent by 3acaga (#1232502) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26662. 1 Merit sent by 360llqzc (#1300924) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26663. 1 Merit sent by 333btc (#3450760) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26664. 1 Merit sent by 3227jw (#2592839) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26665. 1 Merit sent by 2x2coindwarf (#2686612) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26666. 1 Merit sent by 2x25BT (#990097) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26667. 1 Merit sent by 2drive (#1304704) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26668. 1 Merit sent by 2andahalfBTC (#1142164) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26669. 1 Merit sent by 27QVUTZj8rgZP1 (#662730) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26670. 1 Merit sent by 27aume (#1001865) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26671. 1 Merit sent by 2342q6tegw (#1212678) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26672. 1 Merit sent by 214missy (#1285563) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26673. 1 Merit sent by 212fox (#1342293) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26674. 1 Merit sent by 1xbitpatnar (#3475604) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26675. 1 Merit sent by 1r0n (#1252002) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26676. 1 Merit sent by 1pool Ltd. (#2062862) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26677. 1 Merit sent by 1melyun (#543052) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26678. 1 Merit sent by 1cyrax00 (#964210) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26679. 1 Merit sent by 1CryptoSmurf (#1352746) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26680. 1 Merit sent by 1chempion123 (#1346880) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26681. 1 Merit sent by 1cak (#1136856) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26682. 1 Merit sent by 1amCrypt0 (#933826) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26683. 1 Merit sent by 19Nov16 (#921267) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26684. 1 Merit sent by 19nataliya12 (#1873934) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26685. 1 Merit sent by 19dimasik77 (#881779) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26686. 1 Merit sent by 1971ECPT (#3553473) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26687. 1 Merit sent by 17buratin (#1187494) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26688. 1 Merit sent by 13ex07 (#1207068) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26689. 1 Merit sent by 13Charlie (#76987) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26690. 1 Merit sent by 12retepnat34 (#1053271) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26691. 1 Merit sent by 10yearsolder (#1094878) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26692. 1 Merit sent by 10sat (#1162504) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26693. 1 Merit sent by 10casproj (#3515598) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26694. 1 Merit sent by 10BTCaDay (#396522) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26695. 1 Merit sent by 100kk (#1316426) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26696. 1 Merit sent by 100eth (#1324600) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26697. 1 Merit sent by 0xBitcoins (#2205183) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
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18. Post 66969544 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Thu Jul 23 00:34:25 CEST 2026) in Analysis:
The data is not complete because it's still being made through the completion of the Bear Cycle, which if the Four-Year-Cycle is still intact, then "the bottom" will be in October/November, 2026. IF it's NOT intact, then probably the bottom already happened OR we'll probably experience a longer Bear Cycle and lower bottom than what we'll see in October/November, no? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I found this chart which reminded me of this topic
Lets see how will this cycle go
@JayJuanGee I also liked their idea about the 200-WMA and the bear market (30 days below 200-WMA)
That above chart only seems to refer to the 200-DMA - so they must have another chart referring to the 200-WMA.
For sure the 200-day moving average and the 200-week moving average are two different beasts.
And even though each of the indicators can have their attributes in regards to trying to figure out when a bottom might be "in," at the same time, by nature the 200-WMA has quite a bit of long term implications since the BTC price has not tended (so far in bitcoin's history) tended to spend a whole hell of a lot of time below it.. and of course, we cannot even be sure in regards to the extent that history will or will not repeat itself or even how long any dip (or cycle) might play out or if aspects of the cycle (whether the peaks or the troughs) are in-sync or out-of-sync with past patterns.
For sure, since bitcoin has been growing and even we might claim that the kinds of attacks upon it (if we label them as attacks) vary, every cycle has been different, yet we cannot even be sure how to overlay the current cycle over the prior cycles until after they happened... even though many times, guys want to proclaim guru status in terms of trying to play their bitcoin holdings.
Of course, it seems that when we are within 25% of the 200-WMA, in either direction, we likely are more in a buying and/or holding location rather than a selling location, yet if guys do not have any bitcoin, they have to stock up first, and when guys have a lot of bitcoin (perhaps more than enough bitcoin?), they could still be engaging in time-based sustainable withdrawal, even when prices are seeming to be relatively low.
Also, as we know the 200-WMA has been slowly and ongoingly crawling upwards, so even if we might proclaim that since about early February, the BTC price has been within 25% of the 200-WMA, the BTC price has continued to stay pretty close to the 200-WMA since that early February price drop, and maybe at most
we had around 4.5% below the 200-WMA around June 29, so yeah, so far the 200-WMA has been pretty resilient in terms of serving as support, and even though there is so much ongoing chaos in the world (and internal battles regarding BIP 110) it is difficult to imagine too many scenarios in which the bitcoin price drops greatly below the 200-WMA and stays there for several months, like what happened in 2022, and yeah our whole beating around the 200-WMA bush for 2022 to 2023 played out for right around 16 months in total from June 2022 to October 2023.
I don't proclaim guru status, even though there tends to be some value in considering how difficult it seems to be to really get the bitcoin price to come down to the 200-WMA and to stay down here for long periods of time, and so it seems a bit outrageous that guys are expecting BTC prices way below the 200-WMA - even greater than 35% below the 200-WMA, which would be $41k territories.
And, by the way, weren't you (@bitmover) working on some tweaks to a new fuck you status page/tool that we might be able to agree to go public with? or maybe I missed some of the latests tweaks to such new tool that might be in my court...
Many of us likely realize that when the BTC prices are depressed (like currently), then guys are not really thinking about fuck you status as frequently and obsessively as when BTC prices start to recover and then when the BTC prices start to move up, then guys start to more frequently imagine ways in which they might be able to quit their jobs and fuel their current lifestyles (or their future fantasy lifestyles) with the bounds of their current bitcoin holdings and/or their future anticipated bitcoin holdings.
19. Post 66969404 (unedited backup) (by sabotag3x) (scraped on Wed Jul 22 23:44:26 CEST 2026) in Pix e Bitcoin, essa comparação faz sentido?:
tem que reconhcer que o Bitcoin como moeda é horrível.. muito lento, complicado e volátil.
Depende do uso.
Pra receber em campanhas de assinaturas no forum é mil vezes melhor do que pix.
Vc ia preferir dar seu CPF pra um gerente da winna ou de um mixer pra receber pagamentos e postar no fórum? Depois pagar 1.1% de iof e 5% de spread pro banco?
E se vc estiver viajando no exterior e quiser pagar 20 dolares pra uma pessoa por um motivo aleatorio, que nao aceite cartao de crédito.
Ou pra comprar coisas na Internet, como um domínio ou pagar a conta de um servidor na digital ocean. Bitcoin é mais rapido ou barato do que visa, pix, qualquer coisa que vc imaginar.
Digo em relação ao exemplo que ele usou.. pagamentos do dia a dia dentro de um país..
O Bukele lançou a carteira Chivo, fez airdrop (não lembro se Bitcoin ou dólar), tinha swap dentro da carteira, obrigou todos comerciantes a usar.. se não me engano tinha até caixa eletrônico estatal lá focado em Bitcoin.. incentivo não faltou..
Para essas gigantes como McDonald's é fácil implementar um sistema assim.. mas para uma senhora que tem uma banca de refresco sabor tamarindo deve ser difícil.. LN, pior ainda.
Para pagamentos transfonteiriços, com certeza o Bitcoin vence o Pix.
20. Post 66969376 (unedited backup) (by mikel_012) (scraped on Wed Jul 22 23:37:07 CEST 2026) in Pix e Bitcoin, essa comparação faz sentido?:
Depende do uso.
Pra receber em campanhas de assinaturas no forum é mil vezes melhor do que pix.
Vc ia preferir dar seu CPF pra um gerente da winna ou de um mixer pra receber pagamentos e postar no fórum? Depois pagar 1.1% de iof e 5% de spread pro banco?
E se vc estiver viajando no exterior e quiser pagar 20 dolares pra uma pessoa por um motivo aleatorio, que nao aceite cartao de crédito.
Ou pra comprar coisas na Internet, como um domínio ou pagar a conta de um servidor na digital ocean. Bitcoin é mais rapido ou barato do que visa, pix, qualquer coisa que vc imaginar.
Pode ser ruim pra pagar por im cafezinho, mas quantas vezes por dia voce toma cafezinho na rua? Eu nao tomo quase nunca
Verdade
Para pagamento sem tanta urgencia e valor maior pode ser bom, por que é sem fronteira
Mas para comprar café da manhã não vale muito por que tem que ficar esperando confirmações e a taxa é alta considerando o valor
21. Post 66969289 (unedited backup) (by Mindyspace) (scraped on Wed Jul 22 23:12:26 CEST 2026) in Pix e Bitcoin, essa comparação faz sentido?:
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Sou da mesma opinião que vocÊ.... não vejo comparação nenhuma entre PIX e Bitcoin ou como eles poderiam concorrer.
Na verdade, como já discutido, eu e muitos aqui prefeririam usar uma stable ao invez de Bitcoin para realizar pagamentos, principalmente pela questão da velocidade na confirmação.
Claro, concordo com o "Sr. Krugman" de que o PIX fechou muitas outras portas em se tratando de pagamentos instantâneos ( e até incomodou muito os EUA e administradores de cartões com sede lá), mas mesmo com sem o PIX eu não acho que o Bitcoin iria evoluir mais no Brasil como um meio de pagamento digital amplamente usado.
Também vejo dessa forma. O PIX e o Bitcoin atendem propostas bem diferentes. O PIX ganhou o dia a dia porque é extremamente mais prático, mas isso não muda os motivos que levam alguém a usar Bitcoin. E para pagamentos, acho que stablecoins têm muito mais potencial do que o próprio Bitcoin.
É difícil concordar com as opiniões de um cara que defende que os EUA cunhem uma moeda de 1 trilhão de dólares para reduzir a dívida pública.. mas neste caso eu achei a comparação dele muito interessante.
Tanto a adoção do Bitcoin por El Salvador quanto o Pix no Brasil surgiram na mesma data.. e hoje aquela carteira Chivo deve estar morta e o Pix é amplamente usado.. tem que reconhcer que o Bitcoin como moeda é horrível.. muito lento, complicado e volátil.
A parte sobre o Trump também tem que concordar com ele.. está incomodando o Brasil de graça e, como estamos em ano eleitoral, o único beneficiado é o Lula.
Ate concordo que o PIX venceu a disputa pelos pagamentos mais rapidos no Brasil. Mas assom, dizer que isso prova que o Bitcoin é uma moeda ruim acho um salto grande. Hoje a maioria das pessoas compra Bitcoin muito mais como reserva de valor do que para pagar contas. Para pagamentos, stablecoins provavelmente têm mais potencial que o próprio Bitcoin. Isso não diminui a utilidade do Bitcoin, só mostra que cada um ocupa um espaço diferente..
Mas, a realidade também é outra. Primeiro, o incomodo dos bitcoiners no sucesso dos sistemas tradicionais, é porque as pessoas continuam apoiar esses sistemas (isto para os mais puristas/radicais). Segundo, é difícil comparar um sistema que usa moeda correte por milhões de pessoas, e um sistema novo tecnicamente mais complexo e que não tem uma adoção em massa.
Em terceiro lugar, boa parte da comunidade Bitcoin que insiste que o BTC deve ser usado como moeda, esta cada vez mais isolada. Porque o Bitcoin tem muito mais pessoas interessadas em hold.
Infelizmente ainda existe muito a ideia: se eu comprar algo com BTC, estou a dar um potencial ganho a outro.
Concordo. Acho que, com o tempo, o próprio mercado mostrou que o Bitcoin acabou encontrando outro papel. Hoje a maioria compra para guardar, não para gastar, ja o PIX resolveu muito bem a questão dos pagamentos, então nunca vi os dois como concorrentes diretos. E sobre gastar Bitcoin, acho que é natural. Se você acredita que ele vai valer mais no futuro, a tendência é gastar o real e guardar o Bitcoin, claro ne?
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Bitcoin nao foi feito pra competir com visa nem com pix.
Blockchain é um banco de dados caro e lento. O objetivo nunca foi ser rapido e barato.
Bitcoin foi feito pra ser descentralizada e universal, pq existe demanda pra isso que nunca foi atendida.
Sim sim. O erro é tratar o Bitcoin como se tivesse sido criado para competir com o PIX. As propostas são bem diferentes
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O PIX e o Bitcoin são muito semelhantes: ambos tem QR CODE, endereços (no caso do pix, é chamado de chave aleatória ou o próprio email, CPF ou número de celular que podem ser usados como chave), no dia em que as pessoas precisarem usar o Bitcoin, elas já vão ter aprendido, pois o modos operandi é EXATAMENTE o mesmo: escaneia o Qr Code ou copia um endereço/chave, insere valor, digita a senha ou PIN e confirma o pagamento... exatamente a mesma coisa que acontece nas carteiras Bitcoin.
O PIX só não é descentralizado como o Bitcoin, o pix é extremamente monitorado e controlado pelo estado, no caso o banco central.
O PIX só é "melhor" que o Bitcoin no brasil, porque o PIX é obrigatório pelo governo, aí fica fácil neh, como competir com algo que o governo torna obrigatório, investem milhões ou bilhões em R$ pra propaganda, parcerias com bancos, APIs, desenvolvedores, compliance e etc?
As pessoas que conhecem o Bitcoin, geralmente usam pra guardar como investimento ou proteger da inflação, mas dá pra usar no comércio também, e quem usa no comércio, usa cartão cripto recarregável em Bitcoin ou outra criptomoeda, ou seja, o lojista e o governo NEM SABE que o cliente usou Bitcoin.
Acho que o PIX deu certo mais mais pela praticidade do que por ser obrigatório entende? E no cartão cripto, no fim o lojista recebe em reais. Isso só reforça que hoje o Bitcoin é mais usado para guardar do que para gastar. Ou seja, um resolve as coisas mais rapidas, como pagamentos de contas, enquanto o outro serve para o futuro...
22. Post 66969116 (unedited backup) (by sabotag3x) (scraped on Wed Jul 22 22:16:01 CEST 2026) in split paymant oque esperar?:
Quem sonega dessa forma usa o cpf mesmo, vc passa pix pra ele pra comprar um lanche como se estivesse dividindo a conta do bar ou a vaquinha dum churrasco.
Eu tenho a impressão que os próprios bancos estão começando a barrar essas atividades.. vejo relatos de quem recebeu uns valores aleatórios na conta e receberam mensagens questionando a atividade incomum.
Pensam mais no lado econômico do processo: imprimir dinheiro físico é muito dispendioso.
Outro dia eu descobri que o Banco Central do Brasil picota as notas que estão velhas/danificadas/etc e distribui para visitantes:
Fonte:
https://youtu.be/6L1vBYfUcp4É um pacote de droga
Deve ser legal ter um bloco desses para usar de decoração.. eu até procurei no Mercado Livre, etc, mas não encontrei ninguém vendendo.
Realmente, gasta-se muito dinheiro imprimindo dinheiro.
23. Post 66968816 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Wed Jul 22 20:43:14 CEST 2026) in TalkImg.com - Image hosting for BitcoinTalk:
Is there anyway to copy and paste an image url, or from the mobile clipboard? Maybe add an input where we could paste the image?
Something is planned to help with this process on mobile.
24. Post 66966665 (unedited backup) (by tabas) (scraped on Wed Jul 22 10:00:19 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:
At what price do you plan to enter? Right now it's at $123.
I dont know yet.
But it is still heavily overpriced imo, too much risk.
It is still a 1.6T marketcap company. I wouldnt enter anything higher than 1 T, so probably only in $ 60-80 range....
I also think so and so I agree that it's still quite expensive and we'll see how it will be for the next months to come. But I'm putting this on my list as well as one of my possible long term stock to hold.
China is trying as much as possible to bridge the gaps, though, and I believe in a few years we shall have competitors left and right just like we have seen in the EV industry, so yeah, we are probably going to be in the red for a while as well, and the price growth rate may not be the one that was expected before competition came into play.
They don't have it yet but you're right that within the EV market, they're now dominating it wherefore Elon has laugh in an interview before when BYD was mentioned to him. Maybe a year or two from now on, we'd see a counterpart of Space X on them and they'll also have an IPO, who knows.
25. Post 66966039 (unedited backup) (by Bitcoin_Arena) (scraped on Wed Jul 22 01:50:19 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:
I think the company is great. It already changed space exploration possibilities.
The problem is the current price compares to its rrevenue.you might hold a lot of time in red or with bad returns entering now.
China is trying as much as possible to bridge the gaps, though, and I believe in a few years we shall have competitors left and right just like we have seen in the EV industry, so yeah, we are probably going to be in the red for a while as well, and the price growth rate may not be the one that was expected before competition came into play.
26. Post 66965952 (unedited backup) (by tabas) (scraped on Wed Jul 22 01:13:38 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:
I think the company is great. It already changed space exploration possibilities.
The problem is the current price compares to its rrevenue.you might hold a lot of time in red or with bad returns entering now.
Many of the buyers during the launch probably took their cash and profit with them and so the market reacted. If I'll buy this right now, I won't look at the charts maybe for a year or two. We'll see if it's a good long term stock to hold but I agree, holders has to take those red months with them and get over that until its price rises up. At what price do you plan to enter? Right now it's at $123.
27. Post 66965492 (unedited backup) (by Cricktor) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 22:41:49 CEST 2026) in 2.62x BTC dumped to legacy address of Genesis block:
It's been a while, little more than three months, but today three transactions surpassed the minimum qualification amount to be listed. Not just barely but with some "generosity", haha, no judgement. Quite obviously the sender(s) can afford it, assuming due to the same amount being dumped to Genesis block, it might be the same entity.
Past March 14
th, 2025 large
equal/over 500k sats transfers to Genesis block descriptor:
Current balance at time of this post according to
combo(PubKey of Genesis block's coinbase) descriptor, including the unspendable 50
BTC of coinbase tx: 107.29631839
BTC (no pending sats waiting for confirmation, the difference (0.10767775
BTC) to previous post's value and newcomer transaction are smaller dust wastes and often a few larger ones that just don't make it into the table).
This may differ slightly from what mempool.space or bitcoindata.science displays because the combo() descriptorsee below accounts for all address types (except Taproot, IIRC).combo(04678afdb0fe5548271967f1a67130b7105cd6a828e03909a67962e0ea1f61deb649f6bc3f4cef38c4f35504e51ec112de5c384df7ba0b8d578a4c702b6bf11d5f)#gvgcz9wt
28. Post 66965027 (unedited backup) (by 2stout) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 20:24:08 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:
I don't believe now is the time as the price still has not found its bottom yet; it will go lower. Things are different now with this being a public company. When it was private, there were looser timelines regarding revenue. However, now being beholden to shareholders, the revenue timelines will be tighter with quarter to quarter expectations. Also, this may need to be reigned in sooner than later- the SpaceX Starship has been launched 12 times, with 7 successes and 5 failures, which is a 58.3% success rate.
I don’t think there have been any Starship failures. Lessons were learned and improvements were made with each launch. It continues to advance and we will see a demonstration of those advancements this week. In a few months we will see them catch the booster and Starship. By the end of next year I am sure we will see Starship land equipment on the moon. Within a decade, Mars. I want to be a part of that. I bought more today.
There have indeed been failures. What you may think vs the facts are 2 different things:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Starship_launchesAs there are reasons for optimism, there are also fair reasons for skepticism.
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30. Post 66964960 (unedited backup) (by sabotag3x) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 20:02:43 CEST 2026) in Eleições presidenciais 2026 na Polymarket/Kalshi:
Renan
Ontem assisti a uma conversa dele com o carinha lá do Tropa de Elite.. naturalmente, focaram bastante em segurança e RJ.
Aqui o link, caso alguém tenha interesse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8aiHsPfTDEAssim como é a minha opinião sobre os outros políticos, eu duvido que ele conseguirá implementar as coisas que fala.
aí o lula pegou uma economia pronta pra decolar em 2002, surfou a onda sem fazer muita merda na economia e ficou praticamente com todo o crédito.
Pelo que vejo em retrospecto, a sorte do Brasil é que o Lula não fez nada do que prometeu nos seus primeiros mandatos.. às vezes o segredo é esse, não fazer nada.. porque a econômia cresce naturalmente.
Sobre o Real.. e mais recentemente o Pix.. parece que essa é maior a diferença do Brasil para outros países latinos como Argentina, Venezuela, Bolívia, etc. que também foram destruídos pela esquerda.
31. Post 66964832 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 19:26:01 CEST 2026) in O que todo mundo sabe sobre o lançamento do Bitcoin está errado:
Tudo que existe é o Hash160 embutido no endereço. Que ira gerar uma public Key, e nao uma Private key. Mas esse passo para gerar a public key é extremamente custoso, e se ele for quebrado pra um endereco pode ser para qualquer outro.
Felizmente nada indica que isso venha a ser possível. Mas se vier a ser, certamente haverá solução para os titulares vivos dos endereços.
Até lá podemos dormir descansados.
32. Post 66964428 (unedited backup) (by OgNasty) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 17:20:31 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:
I don't believe now is the time as the price still has not found its bottom yet; it will go lower. Things are different now with this being a public company. When it was private, there were looser timelines regarding revenue. However, now being beholden to shareholders, the revenue timelines will be tighter with quarter to quarter expectations. Also, this may need to be reigned in sooner than later- the SpaceX Starship has been launched 12 times, with 7 successes and 5 failures, which is a 58.3% success rate.
I don’t think there have been any Starship failures. Lessons were learned and improvements were made with each launch. It continues to advance and we will see a demonstration of those advancements this week. In a few months we will see them catch the booster and Starship. By the end of next year I am sure we will see Starship land equipment on the moon. Within a decade, Mars. I want to be a part of that. I bought more today.
33. Post 66964275 (unedited backup) (by 2stout) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 16:33:43 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:
I don't believe now is the time as the price still has not found its bottom yet; it will go lower. Things are different now with this being a public company. When it was private, there were looser timelines regarding revenue. However, now being beholden to shareholders, the revenue timelines will be tighter with quarter to quarter expectations. Also, this may need to be reigned in sooner than later- the SpaceX Starship has been launched 12 times, with 7 successes and 5 failures, which is a 58.3% success rate.
34. Post 66964057 (unedited backup) (by WillyAp) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 15:30:13 CEST 2026) in SpaceX IPO:
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I didn't start buying yet, but I plan to do so.
The price is just below $120, now it is the time.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SPCX/
35. Post 66963819 (unedited backup) (by Pumared) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 14:17:38 CEST 2026) in Eleições presidenciais 2026 na Polymarket/Kalshi:
Essas eleições no Brasil são as piores de todos os tempos, na minha opinião. Eu não sei qual que é o menos pior. Todos esses candidatos aí que estão no páreo são todos horríveis. Nós estamos é ferrados na mão desse povo. Infelizmente, o brasileiro vai ter mais quatro ou oito anos de sofrimento. Tá complicado. Realmente, a classe política brasileira é a mais desprezível do planeta Terra.
Eu tenho uma opinião diferente. Acho que os candidatos são bons, os piores são os 2 favoritos. O Lula acho que representa bem a esquerda caviar brasileira, e acho que boa parte dos eleitores acham ele um bom nome.
Os demais, são excelentes, nunca tivemos um nivel tão alto. Caiado, Renan e Zema, todos são bons. Uma pena que eles não se juntaram e tem propostas razoavelmente parecidas...
Concordo. Se eles não estivessem tão pulverizados teríamos mais certeza de que o centro-direita levaria. Acho que a essa altura, jogar para o centrão é melhor do que permanecer com o atual presidente.
36. Post 66963806 (unedited backup) (by BlackHatCoiner) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 14:11:01 CEST 2026) in Why did AI pass Bitcoin in energy spending?:
The integration with the AI is way better than in Vscode.
I can't imagine how more integrated it goes. In VSCode there is already a Claude tab, next to the file sources which you can talk with the AI. There is also the terminal which is way better, IMO.
But you need a paid plan to use it. It reads all your files and , build docker and test the software, etc
Claude Code in VSCode terminal already does that. You can literally run Claude with --dangerously-skip-permissions and it takes access to the entire system, starts running apps, etc., as if I command a developer.
Do you use vscode with a claude subscription?
Yes.
37. Post 66962707 (unedited backup) (by sabotag3x) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 05:13:37 CEST 2026) in O que todo mundo sabe sobre o lançamento do Bitcoin está errado:
Todo endereco tem chave privada e chave publica
A diferenca é que o endereco de queima tem uma chave privada que ninguém conhece.
Dá uma olhada nesse caso no Ethereum:
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0x3f17f1962B36e491b30A40b2405849e597Ba5FB5
Saldo: US$ 30k.. mais o que tem nas outras redes..
O que quis dizer é que a chave privada correspondente pode ser inválida.. não sei se isso existe no Bitcoin.
38. Post 66962458 (unedited backup) (by alegotardo) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 01:25:07 CEST 2026) in O que todo mundo sabe sobre o lançamento do Bitcoin está errado:
A computação quântica só pode tentar encontrar chaves de endereços em que a chave pública foi exposta, ou seja, aqueles que já gastaram moedas pelo menos uma vez.
Como ninguem tem a chave privada de endereços de queima, eles nunca podem ser quebrados por computação quântica.
Isso é com aquilo que se sabe hoje, sobre o assunto.
Agora, a computação quântica vai continuar a evoluir, principalmente quando já estiver mais operacional, para não falar da ajuda de IA.
Por isso, não sabemos se esses endereços de queima um dia não fiquem expostos ataques da computação quântica.
É tem isso, mas convenhamos que quebrar o algoritmo de Grover e sua "proteção quadrática" é muito mais HARD do que quebrar o algoritmo Shor.
Mas enfim, sem discutir termos técnicos, eu apoio o joker com outro pensamento....
Mesmo que você não gastar as moedas agora, em um momento tu vai querer fazer isso né, e asism que tu gastar a chave pública aparece na assinatura, então qual a tua chance de um hacker quântico suficientemente rápido ser mais rápido que você, extrair a chave privada e transmitir com um transação concorrente antes da sua confirmar? Ao que tudo indica a migração será "soft-core", então quem não migrar antes vai ficar correndo esse risco.
39. Post 66962455 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Tue Jul 21 01:23:13 CEST 2026) in O que todo mundo sabe sobre o lançamento do Bitcoin está errado:
Se eles estiverem expostos significa que todos os enderecos estariam expostos.
Serie literalmente o fim do bitcoin .
Não propriamente.
Já hoje se fala na criação de uma gama de endereços, preparados para resistir a computação quântica.
Caberá depois a cada titular, mover as suas moedas para essa gama de endereços.
40. Post 66962221 (unedited backup) (by Agathamay) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 23:55:01 CEST 2026) in 💰 $200 Prize Pool - 🎟️ Free Raffle || 24Casino.Com:
I tired to register on the 24casino.com website but it seems it not available on my region
Maybe that's the reason a lot people haven't participated
I tried to login using a google account and it immediately asked for a phone number
On the area of the phone number, I used a random number as suggested by op and it worked for me but I hope this wouldn't also be an issue when someone wins and tries to withdraw their winnings and I hope it gets fixed as soon as possible
41. Post 66961276 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 19:20:07 CEST 2026) in O que todo mundo sabe sobre o lançamento do Bitcoin está errado:
A computação quântica só pode tentar encontrar chaves de endereços em que a chave pública foi exposta, ou seja, aqueles que já gastaram moedas pelo menos uma vez.
Como ninguem tem a chave privada de endereços de queima, eles nunca podem ser quebrados por computação quântica.
Isso é com aquilo que se sabe hoje, sobre o assunto.
Agora, a computação quântica vai continuar a evoluir, principalmente quando já estiver mais operacional, para não falar da ajuda de IA.
Por isso, não sabemos se esses endereços de queima um dia não fiquem expostos ataques da computação quântica.
42. Post 66961058 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 18:22:49 CEST 2026) in What to do to eliminate fear and starts investing in Bitcoin :
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I have come across a lot of interesting posts regarding the topics you guys are touching upon and there are two specific questions I have.
The first question is, why do quite a few people still think that the 4 year cycle is so relevant? If it was, wouldn't the market react to patterns and adjust their actions accordingly, which would lead to a far more scattered pattern that doesn't allow for a simple exploitation of a strict pattern anymore? Assume that I know the market has at quite specific time windows acted in certain ways in the past, it would only be logical for me to adjust my actions and act either earlier or later, depending on whatever is favorable. Over time everyone would do that and how could the 4 year cycle still have significant effects when more and more people know that it makes more sense to not strictly stick to it? I would always try to buy before the masses buy because they drive up the price, and I would always try to sell before the masses sell. Since there are very strict patterns as suggested in many posts on bitcointalk, it should be possible for many marktet participants to be a little smarter than most others. And the more often one person tries to outsmart the others, the more this pattern loses meaning, or am I getting that wrong?
If these adjustments happen over many years, can there still be talk of a 4 year cycle? If I know there is a block halving coming and I know that buys became much stronger in the past three months before the halving, I will start buying four months before the halving. This was just put in simple terms, but you know what I mean I think. If I do it four months before and more market participants do it, it would be smart in the future to start buying five months or six months in advance.
The second question is, if an AI software was able to generate an alpha and if that AI software gets a million requests per day, how can there still be an alpha? Or a significant alpha? Since the more buyers or sellers get the same recommendation, there is less alpha left for everyone. It would have to adjust the strategy, give a new recommendation and give that to people so long that they still can benefit from it, then change the strategy again.
I understand that maybe some people got lucky with an AI advice from ChatGPT, but since everyone has access to those programs, the potential for significant alpha to be taken opportunity of is reduced with every single request from users.
The big companies use software all the time and that makes sense and they may have their own specified inputs, gathered information over time that they deem more valuable, but now that everyone has access to real time processing information, it's not like the whole world can win in times of stagnant markets. In that situation it must be a zero sum game that some can luckily win due to leveraged positions or other techniques.
You have been registered here about as long as me dzonikg28, and if you have been fucking around trying to trade for the past 12.5 years, then maybe you are still like a lost little puppy.
You don't need to try to trade 4-year cycles in order to still profit from them, since in bitcoin, the longer that you been in bitcoin and erroring on the side of accumulation and hold, then the more likely that you have been prosperous in your focus on investing rather than fucking around trying to trade, and yeah, guys think that they are more sophisticated players if they are trying to trade the 4 year cycle, and perhaps some guys have gotten lucky trying to trade the 4 year cycle, yet the mere luck of some guys should not justify that it is a good thing to be fucking around trying to trade the 4 year cycle.
My own personal ideas relate to accumulating a sufficiently large enough stash that you can figure out that you have enough bitcoin or more than enough bitcoin, then once you get to enough or more than enough bitcoin, then you likely have more freedom to sell some of it.. by using price-based and/or time based sustainable withdrawal.
Even if you had started buying $50 per week in bitcoin in January 2014, you would have invested $2,600 per year and then invested just over $30k over the past 12.5 years to have had accumulated right around 17.52 BTC, which seems difficult to presume that you would have had needed to get better returns than that.
Of course, my own story is a bit different since I started to use my own version of price based sustainable withdrawal towards the middle/end of 2015, even though I had to hone (and tailorize) my own systems/practices, yet it seems to me that
right now, even
with time-based sustainable withdrawal, a guy with 17.52 BTC could have a sustainable withdrawal rate of right around $7,825 per month, which would be about $94k per year, and I am pretty sure that the guy can give himself a 7% cost of living adjustment raise in the dollar amount each year, which would be a pretty damned good investment for having had merely put in $30k over the past 12.5 years.
Accordingly, given my own above description, I have difficulties seeing how someone fucking around with trading would have had done better than the guy who had focused mostly on buying and accumulating of bitcoin.
Of course, at the same time, past results do not guarantee future results, even though I personally continue to advocate staying focused on buying and accumulating and don't get overly distracted by 4 year cycles, even though so far they continue to seem to exist and to have affects on upward and downward periods in the bitcoin spot price market, yet at the same time, there seems to be quite a bit of advantage to build up a guy's bitcoin stash through focusing on ongoing buying, and ongoing buying seems to help to build the bitcoin stash since since we can never have a lot of confidence in regards to bitcoin price direction, even if a bitcoin 4 year cycle continues to seem to exist..... and then once his bitcoin stash gets larger then he might be able to start to employ selling to either maintain his stash or to start to sustainably withdrawal through price-based and/or time-based sustainable withdrawal methods, perhaps similar to the ones that I talk about in
my thread on the sustainable withdrawal topic?
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You sounded manipulative here, and actually constructed your response in the opposite of what I wrote.
Regardless, I stand by what I said, and to summarise/rephrase what I wrote to the OP:
1a. Learn Bitcoin online to allow you focus in gaining understanding, instead of random replies.
1b. Use Gemini/ChatGPT to point you to the right links and articles that will help your learning.
2. Plan your investment around the Bitcoin's 4-year cycle.
I don't think I see where Trading comes in play in that, and neither did I see where Gemini/ChatGPT is giving the direct instructions and investment advice.
I stick with what I said also. You seem to have difficulties recognizing how there is no real need for investors to incorporate trading into their investing practices.
If guys have goals to accumulate bitcoin then selling bitcoin in order to accumulate bitcoin does not make a lot of sense, even though you are free to do what you like, even though you likely contribute to a lot of confusion when you ongoingly fail/refuse to distinguish trading from investing... and there are many ways that vague proclamations about the benefits of Gemini/ChatGPT is going to end up helping guys to distinguish between investing and trading if they are coming at it with a problematic framework and a confused mind.
By the way, I am a pretty big fan of AI systems too, when it comes to learning certain topics, yet there are needs to both put in good prompts and to guide it into areas in ways that help to clarify confusion and even to sort through topics, so there could be ways that guys end up developing their own ideas about how to deploy investing versus trading, even though there surely continue to be a lot of ways that they can both become confused and distracted into trading and crypto rather than focusing on investing in bitcoin, which will end up causing them to lose money rather than to be ongoingly building their bitcoin stash and strengthening their cashflow management systems/practices.
For sure, many of us recognize and appreciate that if we are able to increase our discretionary income, then we will tend to have more money to work with in order to be able to invest, save and/or discretionarily consume, and surely it could be possible that AI could also be helpful for guys to figure out ways to increase their discretionary income by increasing their income and/or decreasing some of their expenses.
Whether guys utilize AI in their brain storming of ideas or not, building wealth tends to take a long time, even though surely many of us likely get tempted into wanting to take short-cuts and to try to get rich quick, which may well lead us into engaging in activities that might not be to our longer term advantage, even though they might appear to have decently good chances of paying off in the short-term.
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Secondly, I don't think planning your investment within the 4-years circle is good enough for an intending love term HODLer. We can't predict the market as we know, meaning that there is no assurance that a 4-years HODLing period will yield anything tangible due to its volatility. Thus, the best is to just set a long term target while remaining consistent in the market as you buy gradually with your Discretionary income.
EarnOnVictor is not suggesting that guys invest in bitcoin for ONLY 4 years, but instead he is suggesting that guys try to play the waves of the 4-year cycle, since he seems to believe that playing the 4-year wave is an "easy way" to make more money as compared with guys who merely ongoingly buy bitcoin. In other words, EarnOnVictor, continues to make a lot of assumptions that guys can figure out when to sell and to buy back...and also when to slow down in their buying (presumptively at the top) and to slow down in their selling (presumptively at the bottom). He believes that there are techniques (and learnings) to be able to identify where the BTC price is going before it happens.. so that guys can supposedly make more money by following a trading technique as compared with following strict buying only techniques.
After making this kind of decision just make sure you maintain your consistency and also persistently in accumulating your Bitcoin and also have in mind that you are an investor not a trader. Holding your Bitcoin for as long as you can but it shouldn't be less than four years because if it is less than four years you will be considered as a trader. It should be minimum of 8+ years.
If possible, it could be more than 8 years, as you mentioned above. Yes, maintaining consistency requires constantly seeking passive income so the balance can continue to grow. For example, we usually pay $50 in installments in an accumulation plan. With additional income, it can increase to at least $60. That's quite a lot, isn't it? Simple, but it works.
For many guys it is going to be more than 8 years to really build a decently good bitcoin stash size, and yeah, it is likely good to increase the amount of bitcoin that you are buying weekly, if your discretionary income goes up.
If you are trying to figure out how much time it is going to take you, then you likely have to look at how much of your income you are putting in. If you are putting in 10% of your income, then it is going to take you nearly 10 years to put in a year's worth of your income, and so guys who are able to put higher percentages of their income, they are going to get to a point of reaching enough or more than enough sooner, yet even if they have enough or more than enough, they still might not transition into being able to sell until after going through a maintenance phase that might be 2-4 years or more.
You are in the best place to figure out both the amounts that you are able to put into bitcoin and also how long you expect that the amount that you put in is going to add up to significantly large amounts, depending on what the bitcoin price ends up doing in the next 4-10 years or longer.
One ofthe things that make new investors to lack confidence in Bitcoin investment is that they lack the basic understanding of what Bitcoin is all about and for sure Bitcoin to them is an escape route to poverty and other financial challenges, Bitcoin to them have the ability to make them rich quick, but in the end when the reality with Bitcoin happens, they will begin to play the blame game and not accepting they own fault of not studying Bitcoin and understand the market volitilities around Bitcoin.
Not knowing about Bitcoin or its volatility can lead to a lack of confidence in investing. Many people think that Bitcoin is a way to make money and its price will only increase. However, those who know do not just expect to make a profit, they know how volatile it is and how much expectation is realistic. Therefore, those who trade Bitcoin thinking it is a way to make money end up losing money and end up blaming Bitcoin, even though they are responsible for their own decisions. Therefore, one should have realistic expectations and ideas when investing, otherwise the investor himself will be responsible for unrealistic expectations.
Ongoingly we should be reminded that our attempts should be to try to control what we are able to control and to not get worked up about the parts that we are not able to control. So we are able to choose our levels of aggressiveness in regards to how much bitcoin we buy and how regularly we buy bitcoin, and we are also able to control the extent to which we strengthen our cashflow management practices in terms of how much we choose to put into savings (back up funds) and/or discretionary consumption.
And, yeah, from time to time, we are likely going to have to make adjustments based on
our own 9 personal factors, so it is likely good if we are striving to stay aware and to make adjustments to our own personal factors.
43. Post 66960436 (unedited backup) (by Kryptowerk) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 15:43:01 CEST 2026) in DEX.fo — Automatic Crypto Exchange | No KYC/AML | BTC ETH XMR LTC DAI USDT | :
@PeanutswarThanks for wrapping up the previous contest and launching the next one. 🎯 Consistent activity is what keeps the thread alive.
@bitmoverExactly right — the CEX withdrawal scenario is the one situation where the refund field genuinely matters. Most experienced users like yourself know to fill it in for exactly that case. Making it optional was the right call for the majority, but the safety net stays available for the edge cases where it counts.
@AmnesiaHazeThanks for the test report. Quick clarification though —
USDT (BEP20) isn't currently on our supported list. Our current USDT support is ERC-20 and TRC-20 only. If your swap went through a bridge or router that converted BEP20 to a supported network on the way in, that would explain the experience — but that's third-party handling, not our native support.
BEP20 support is on the roadmap along with the broader BSC/BNB integration coming after Solana. When it's live, you'll see it directly in the selector.
Could you double-check which network you used? Want to make sure there's no confusion about supported assets.
@GreatArkansasSorry to hear about the delay. Please reach out via SimpleX support directly with your Order ID (8f3xzz001) — the support team can look at the specific order and see what's holding it. Public thread isn't the fastest channel for individual case resolution.
If for some reason you can't reach SimpleX support, let us know and we'll help route it. We don't want any user stuck without a resolution.
@hosemaryBoth suggestions are solid.
On Arabic — the Middle East interest in crypto (especially UAE and Saudi retail flows) is real and growing, and coverage there would be meaningful. Adding it to the language priority queue.
On the FAQ page needing an update to reflect recent changes and adding a "recent changes" section — 100% agreed, that's on the near-term list. The refund address update alone requires FAQ correction (as noted earlier by another user), and grouping recent changes helps returning users catch up without re-reading everything.
@MarryWithBTCCompact FAQ in the OP itself — that's the natural next step. This thread has generated more actual useful Q&A content than any FAQ we could write from scratch. Distilling it into a proper OP section is a much better source than starting from zero.
On Portuguese — good addition to the list. Brazilian no-KYC demand is significant and growing, and Portuguese also covers a broader Portuguese-speaking market (Portugal, Angola, Mozambique). Noted alongside Arabic.
@Ultegra134Thanks — noting the effort on the German translation means a lot. We deliberately went with human translators rather than machine output for exactly the reason you mentioned. Non-native quality shows immediately in a financial interface and undermines trust in a way no cost-saving justifies.
@xtraelvWelcome to the thread and appreciate the observation. Consistent engagement with the forum after the initial launch is one of the things we specifically decided to prioritize — because you're right, "post, disappear, occasionally reappear" is unfortunately the norm in this space.
On the FAQ — you and others are pointing at the same real problem. New users shouldn't need to trawl through 20 pages to find answers already given. That's on us to consolidate. Working on it.
@KryptowerkFair — SimpleX setup is one of those things that's simple once you know how, but opaque if you're seeing it for the first time. A short "how to reach our support in 3 steps" guide (with the SimpleX link, how to open it, and what to expect) would help new users considerably. Adding to the near-term content list.
@pooya87That's a clean solution — one contextual warning line handles the CEX edge case without pushing extra friction on users depositing from self-custody. We'll implement that as part of the refund field UI update we're preparing:
"If depositing from a centralized exchange (Binance, Coinbase, etc.), we strongly recommend providing a refund address."Simple. Direct. Solves the actual problem. Thanks for the practical framing.
DEX.fo — No KYC. No AML. No registration.
wtf, why are you tagging me? I have a suspicion and it doesn't look good for a "No KYC" exchange. (NO, I never used their service and most likely never will)
Explain yourself, and better without AI written bullshit.
I have my hand on the trigger for negative trust here.
Good luck.
44. Post 66960144 (unedited backup) (by Itz-prisigold) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 14:08:43 CEST 2026) in 💰 $200 Prize Pool - 🎟️ Free Raffle || 24Casino.Com:
Bump
Friendly mention of who participated in my other raffles.
If it asks for mobile verification, just provide a random number.
dzonikg28
ibuddy122505
m2017
Barcode_
mv1986
bitmover
Itz-prisigold
Pandorak
cumakoff
Ricardo11
IIrik11
Ninja Primes
f150
Warkop
MisFoxie
Agathamay
UserU
Improved
bitzizzix
inearth
RTX-G53
Obim34
Yoona_As
rbynxx
Dump3er
Mehmet69
slapper
xandry
Leahized
I tired to register on the 24casino.com website but it seems it not available on my region
Maybe that's the reason a lot people haven't participated
45. Post 66960125 (unedited backup) (by God Of Thunder) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 14:02:01 CEST 2026) in 💰 $200 Prize Pool - 🎟️ Free Raffle || 24Casino.Com:
Bump
Friendly mention of who participated in my other raffles.
If it asks for mobile verification, just provide a random number.
dzonikg28
ibuddy122505
m2017
Barcode_
mv1986
bitmover
Itz-prisigold
Pandorak
cumakoff
Ricardo11
IIrik11
Ninja Primes
f150
Warkop
MisFoxie
Agathamay
UserU
Improved
bitzizzix
inearth
RTX-G53
Obim34
Yoona_As
rbynxx
Dump3er
Mehmet69
slapper
xandry
Leahized
46. Post 66960112 (unedited backup) (by God Of Thunder) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 13:56:01 CEST 2026) in Bitz.io || Free Raffle 🎟️ – $65 Prize Pool 💰:
Winner:
17 - Warkop
Winner 2:
15 - f150
Winner 3:
33 - Yoona_As
Verify herePlease DM me the Bitz.io Bitcoin deposit address.
All paid, Should be credited within a few minutes.
47. Post 66959631 (unedited backup) (by Pmalek) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 09:57:31 CEST 2026) in DEX.fo — Automatic Crypto Exchange | No KYC/AML | BTC ETH XMR LTC DAI USDT | :
@bitmover
Exactly right — the CEX withdrawal scenario is the one situation where the refund field genuinely matters. Most experienced users like yourself know to fill it in for exactly that case. Making it optional was the right call for the majority, but the safety net stays available for the edge cases where it counts.
Maybe you can emphasize this further in the text written under "Refund address." Add another sentence where you highly recommend that users depositing from a custodial service double check the refund address and even enter one belonging to a wallet they control or enter an address copied directly from their exchange account.
You should also consider a new entry under Q&A, explaining the best way to deposit from CEXs and custodial platforms with a return address entered.
48. Post 66959567 (unedited backup) (by DEX.fo_off) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 09:23:13 CEST 2026) in DEX.fo — Automatic Crypto Exchange | No KYC/AML | BTC ETH XMR LTC DAI USDT | :
@PeanutswarThanks for wrapping up the previous contest and launching the next one. 🎯 Consistent activity is what keeps the thread alive.
@bitmoverExactly right — the CEX withdrawal scenario is the one situation where the refund field genuinely matters. Most experienced users like yourself know to fill it in for exactly that case. Making it optional was the right call for the majority, but the safety net stays available for the edge cases where it counts.
@AmnesiaHazeThanks for the test report. Quick clarification though —
USDT (BEP20) isn't currently on our supported list. Our current USDT support is ERC-20 and TRC-20 only. If your swap went through a bridge or router that converted BEP20 to a supported network on the way in, that would explain the experience — but that's third-party handling, not our native support.
BEP20 support is on the roadmap along with the broader BSC/BNB integration coming after Solana. When it's live, you'll see it directly in the selector.
Could you double-check which network you used? Want to make sure there's no confusion about supported assets.
@GreatArkansasSorry to hear about the delay. Please reach out via SimpleX support directly with your Order ID (8f3xzz001) — the support team can look at the specific order and see what's holding it. Public thread isn't the fastest channel for individual case resolution.
If for some reason you can't reach SimpleX support, let us know and we'll help route it. We don't want any user stuck without a resolution.
@hosemaryBoth suggestions are solid.
On Arabic — the Middle East interest in crypto (especially UAE and Saudi retail flows) is real and growing, and coverage there would be meaningful. Adding it to the language priority queue.
On the FAQ page needing an update to reflect recent changes and adding a "recent changes" section — 100% agreed, that's on the near-term list. The refund address update alone requires FAQ correction (as noted earlier by another user), and grouping recent changes helps returning users catch up without re-reading everything.
@MarryWithBTCCompact FAQ in the OP itself — that's the natural next step. This thread has generated more actual useful Q&A content than any FAQ we could write from scratch. Distilling it into a proper OP section is a much better source than starting from zero.
On Portuguese — good addition to the list. Brazilian no-KYC demand is significant and growing, and Portuguese also covers a broader Portuguese-speaking market (Portugal, Angola, Mozambique). Noted alongside Arabic.
@Ultegra134Thanks — noting the effort on the German translation means a lot. We deliberately went with human translators rather than machine output for exactly the reason you mentioned. Non-native quality shows immediately in a financial interface and undermines trust in a way no cost-saving justifies.
@xtraelvWelcome to the thread and appreciate the observation. Consistent engagement with the forum after the initial launch is one of the things we specifically decided to prioritize — because you're right, "post, disappear, occasionally reappear" is unfortunately the norm in this space.
On the FAQ — you and others are pointing at the same real problem. New users shouldn't need to trawl through 20 pages to find answers already given. That's on us to consolidate. Working on it.
@KryptowerkFair — SimpleX setup is one of those things that's simple once you know how, but opaque if you're seeing it for the first time. A short "how to reach our support in 3 steps" guide (with the SimpleX link, how to open it, and what to expect) would help new users considerably. Adding to the near-term content list.
@pooya87That's a clean solution — one contextual warning line handles the CEX edge case without pushing extra friction on users depositing from self-custody. We'll implement that as part of the refund field UI update we're preparing:
"If depositing from a centralized exchange (Binance, Coinbase, etc.), we strongly recommend providing a refund address."Simple. Direct. Solves the actual problem. Thanks for the practical framing.
DEX.fo — No KYC. No AML. No registration.
49. Post 66959280 (unedited backup) (by JeffBrad12) (scraped on Mon Jul 20 04:43:07 CEST 2026) in Why did AI pass Bitcoin in energy spending?:
I'm afraid to tell you that I agree with bitmover. Yes, the AI is terrible for your privacy at every measurable level, but the market is an eternal competition, and you stand very little chance without the AI in the next age. Whatever your job is, another person who has the same expertise as you, but outsources a big portion of the work to the AI gains so much time and energy to do other tasks that you don't.
And the models are becoming much better now than 6 months ago. Their evolution is exponential
I have Google AI Pro, which allows me to use Antigravity suite. I am really impressed.
It has Anthropic sonet and gemini integrated. it is really amazing what those models are doing now.
But you need patience to learn how to use and to write good prompts.
I am not even using vscode anymore , just antigravity IDE.
Gemini hallucinates a lot and anthropic claude sonnet is bottom tier of AI. Antigravity is forked vscode with proprietary bloatware, you better off installing claude or codex extension on vscode.
Although I agree with your statement about AI saving a lot of times to get the work done, I tried creating a trading bot and it's done in about 1 hour which probably going to take me whole week to create the bare minimum MVP. Try Fable 5 or GPT 5.6 sol you'd be astounded.
Back to the topic, AI didn't really pass in energy spending, there are tons of complaint filed from the state and the people living around data center. AI is literally being hated everywhere tho.
50. Post 66958572 (unedited backup) (by Hamza2424) (scraped on Sun Jul 19 23:19:08 CEST 2026) in Inflation the biggest problem of modern the era.:
Inflation destroys everything. Living 3-5% anual inflation is easy, and that is not the problem. The problem are higher inflation rates over decades.
I grew up in country with 80-100% inflation per month. That is crazy, and economy is destroyed. Nobody knows how much anything costs, sometimes a person gets a good job and it becomes bad quite quickly and might become good again.
Same, bro. We have also lost almost half the value of our currency in the last 5 years. I still remember when $100 was 15k in local currency, and now it is around 30k. Inflation has made things worse. While inflation has increased by 2x, the salaries of employees have only increased by 10% to 15% at most. The lower class is suffering. They are grateful if they get to eat good food sometimes because they have been left in a situation where they can't think about anything else but how to survive in this economy without breaking the law.
Because not everyone is a criminal.
Economies are destroyed mostly because of disasters. The pandemic had the highest impact on our country, and so far we are still dealing with it.
51. Post 66958065 (unedited backup) (by BlackHatCoiner) (scraped on Sun Jul 19 20:07:37 CEST 2026) in Why did AI pass Bitcoin in energy spending?:
I am not even using vscode anymore , just antigravity IDE.
I don't understand this migration to Antigravity. Can you tell me what you can do in Antigravity that I can't do in VSCode with a Claude subscription?
Gemini is good, but it's not nearly as good as Anthropic's Fable at coding tasks. I use Gemini more for research, because it has 10 million context window, and does not hallucinate when reading hundreds of articles.
52. Post 66957852 (unedited backup) (by BlackHatCoiner) (scraped on Sun Jul 19 18:58:49 CEST 2026) in Why did AI pass Bitcoin in energy spending?:
I am sorry but I really do not feel any excitement at all about the idea of having a Google-on-steroids as my search engine that collects every thing I prompt, think, search for et cetera exploiting the use of that information to the highest point possible.
I'm afraid to tell you that I agree with bitmover. Yes, the AI is terrible for your privacy at every measurable level, but the market is an eternal competition, and you stand very little chance without the AI in the next age. Whatever your job is, another person who has the same expertise as you, but outsources a big portion of the work to the AI gains so much time and energy to do other tasks that you don't.
53. Post 66957777 (unedited backup) (by Forsyth Jones) (scraped on Sun Jul 19 18:37:01 CEST 2026) in Discussão geral sobre Hardware wallets:
Bonito mesmo e parece bem legal... Mas caro né.
Eu me sinto seguro com minhas chaves 2FA no meu celular + backup e minhas moeda numa trezor ou ledger, não vejo nada que justifique esse gasto de uns $290 a mais do que os $60 de uma HW normal (tipo a trezor safe 3).... Mas é um artefato interessante para quem gosta de tecnologia
Talvez seja mais focado no uso corporativo?
Aqui no brasil, esse tipo de coisa é artigo de luxo, fica ainda mais caro se formos importar direto, impostos federais mais estaduais mais frete, o produto deve chegar de 80% a 120% mais caro, mais que o dobro, você paga uma carteira pra você e outra pro estado. Quem é entusiasta de Bitcoin ou precisa dele pra viver, aqui não é lugar pra ele.
Talvez seja mais focado no uso corporativo?
Pra quem faz várias transações por dia (tipo quem opera DeFi ou até mesmo gerentes de campanhas aqui no fórum) deve fazer sentido ter mais práticidade e segurança.
Tanto que estão querendo trocar o nome de "carteira" para "assinador" ou algo assim.. para pessoas normais, a mais barata já serve.
Essa semana vi o ZachXBT falar inclusive que era melhor usar um iphone velho do que uma trezor/ledger
Eu podia até concordar com ele, mas ele usou iphone como exemplo, iphone não deve ser tão fácil de remover placa de rede, bluetooth, já nos android, isso é mais viável. Além disso, tentar fazer um airpgapped no celular, não é a melhor ideia, é muito melhor pegar um pc/notebook velho, remover placa de rede, bluetooth e fazer dele um airgapped cold wallet.
Hardware wallet te entrega isso tudo pronto, especialmente se for airgapped como a krux, coldcard, etc. Resta saber se você quer ter uma empresa por trás como a fundation, trezor, coinkite, lançar atualizações ou fizer e manter o setup tudo por conta própria. As duas estratégias deve entregar um setup bem robusto se for tudo bem feito e o usuário souber o que está fazendo.
54. Post 66957664 (unedited backup) (by sabotag3x) (scraped on Sun Jul 19 17:59:13 CEST 2026) in Discussão geral sobre Hardware wallets:
Talvez seja mais focado no uso corporativo?
Pra quem faz várias transações por dia (tipo quem opera DeFi ou até mesmo gerentes de campanhas aqui no fórum) deve fazer sentido ter mais práticidade e segurança.
Tanto que estão querendo trocar o nome de "carteira" para "assinador" ou algo assim.. para pessoas normais, a mais barata já serve.
Essa semana vi o ZachXBT falar inclusive que era melhor usar um iphone velho do que uma trezor/ledger
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56. Post 66953345 (unedited backup) (by LoyceV) (scraped on Sat Jul 18 10:31:01 CEST 2026) in Complete overview of users on DT1 and DT2 and their ratings:
Update:DT 1 1. 35:
theymos (
Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (61) 14654 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
2. 203:
HostFat (
Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (1) 311 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
3. 11425:
gmaxwell (
Trust: +11 / =0 / -1) (
DT1! (15) 10005 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
4. 33156:
vapourminer (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (6) 5478 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
5. 51173:
mprep (
Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (20) 1768 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
6. 55384:
Foxpup (
Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (14) 2799 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
7. 64507:
philipma1957 (
Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (20) 11183 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
8. 65636:
babo (
Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (5) 4721 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
9. 78147:
Cyrus (
Trust: +22 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (22) 2874 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
10. 84521:
Welsh (
Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (25) 3595 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
11. 84866:
ibminer (
Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (11) 2774 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
12. 85033:
d5000 (
Trust: neutral) (
DT1! (2) 9867 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
13. 97582:
joker_josue (
Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (7) 6756 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
14. 112493:
Pmalek (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (3) 8849 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
15. 113670:
Mitchell (
Trust: +45 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (20) 2089 Merit earned) (
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BPIP)
16. 123824:
albon (
Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (11) 2146 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
17. 137185:
jeremypwr (
Trust: +58 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (17) 6259 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
18. 140582:
gbianchi (
Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (5) 2557 Merit earned) (
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BPIP)
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EFS (
Trust: +9 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (5) 2165 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
20. 164749:
stompix (
Trust: neutral) (
DT1! (13) 6651 Merit earned) (
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BPIP)
21. 164822:
hilariousandco (
Trust: +28 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (33) 1933 Merit earned) (
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arulbero (
Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (5) 1547 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
23. 189967:
buckrogers (
Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (3) 195 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
24. 204821:
Buchi-88 (
Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (4) 2377 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
25. 252510:
JayJuanGee (
Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (21) 13723 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
26. 257071:
NeuroticFish (
Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (7) 6266 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
27. 314792:
examplens (
Trust: +10 / =5 / -0) (
DT1! (24) 3745 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
28. 317618:
nutildah (
Trust: +21 / =3 / -0) (
DT1! (33) 10245 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
29. 350580:
irfan_pak10 (
Trust: +17 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (3) 744 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
30. 355846:
yahoo62278 (
Trust: +39 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (25) 4418 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
31. 364070:
bitbollo (
Trust: +18 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (6) 3956 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
32. 379147:
pooya87 (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (4) 11365 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
33. 379487:
LFC_Bitcoin (
Trust: +33 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (22) 11978 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
34. 405464:
mocacinno (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (5) 4532 Merit earned) (
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BPIP)
35. 405482:
Real-Duke (
Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (3) 2836 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
36. 407174:
klarki (
Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (1) 4598 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
37. 459836:
LoyceV (
Trust: +32 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (66) 21249 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
38. 487418:
The Sceptical Chymist (
Trust: +28 / =3 / -0) (
DT1! (33) 6361 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
39. 521899:
SFR10 (
Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (5) 3111 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
40. 557798:
TryNinja (
Trust: +12 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (12) 10130 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
41. 754818:
holydarkness (
Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (11) 1394 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
42. 805820:
Lafu (
Trust: +18 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (15) 4117 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
43. 830967:
tweetious (
Trust: +32 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (1) 454 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
44. 839568:
AakZaki (
Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (6) 2017 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
45. 901859:
buwaytress (
Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (9) 3858 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
46. 914465:
crwth (
Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (1) 1359 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
47. 932931:
Ale88 (
Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (4) 3594 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
48. 995810:
hosemary (
Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (8) 6800 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
49. 1000199:
krogothmanhattan (
Trust: +88 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (14) 4208 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
50. 1016855:
JollyGood (
Trust: +20 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (17) 1961 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
51. 1045971:
igebotz (
Trust: +12 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (10) 2309 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
52. 1051955:
roycilik (
Trust: +12 / =0 / -1) (
DT1! (2) 1908 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
53. 1052091:
CryptopreneurBrainboss (
Trust: +17 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (14) 5140 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
54. 1059082:
hugeblack (
Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (12) 4617 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
55. 1067333:
El duderino_ (
Trust: +27 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (13) 15601 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
56. 1097370:
KTChampions (
Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (6) 2302 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
57. 1099980:
Trofo (
Trust: +33 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (16) 3576 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
58. 1137579:
icopress (
Trust: +87 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (38) 12908 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
59. 1190631:
JeromeTash (
Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (7) 1464 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
60. 1247226:
logfiles (
Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (8) 2348 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
61. 1269497:
Bitcoin_Arena (
Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (7) 2090 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
62. 1285797:
GazetaBitcoin (
Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (15) 9931 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
63. 1311641:
tvplus006 (
Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (15) 2625 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
64. 1554927:
bitmover (
Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (7) 7615 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
65. 1582324:
DdmrDdmr (
Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (22) 11371 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
66. 1634314:
shahzadafzal (
Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (2) 3382 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
67. 1724800:
Lakai01 (
Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (5) 4215 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
68. 1825672:
morvillz7z (
Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (11) 2201 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
69. 1827294:
Husna QA (
Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (6) 3442 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
70. 1852120:
fillippone (
Trust: +12 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (22) 20973 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
71. 1862043:
cryptofrka (
Trust: +19 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (9) 2938 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
72. 1878246:
abhiseshakana (
Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (2) 2564 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
73. 1980983:
The Cryptovator (
Trust: +21 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (17) 2597 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
74. 1982152:
lovesmayfamilis (
Trust: +27 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (30) 5719 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
75. 2003859:
DireWolfM14 (
Trust: +19 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (20) 5747 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
76. 2015418:
notblox1 (
Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (1) 1605 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
77. 2344286:
Little Mouse (
Trust: +49 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (10) 3738 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
78. 2363935:
YOSHIE (
Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (18) 1898 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
79. 2477002:
inspace (
Trust: +5 / =2 / -0) (
DT1! (3) 1524 Merit earned) (
Custom Trust list) (
BPIP)
80. 2497429:
jokers10 (
Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (5) 4133 Merit earned) (
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BPIP)
81. 2519096:
Awaklara (
Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (6) 848 Merit earned) (
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BPIP)
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efialtis (
Trust: +25 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (3) 1561 Merit earned) (
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BPIP)
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zasad@ (
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DT1! (7) 5651 Merit earned) (
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Rikafip (
Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (
DT1! (26) 8150 Merit earned) (
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BPIP)
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Etranger (
Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (3) 1884 Merit earned) (
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BPIP)
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NotATether (
Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (
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Stalker22 (
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bullrun2024bro (
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DT1! (7) 5346 Merit earned) (
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BlackHatCoiner (
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DT1! (7) 9934 Merit earned) (
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Charles-Tim (
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Lillominato89 (
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Free Market Capitalist (
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YodasRedRocket (
Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (
DT1! (1) 650 Merit earned) (
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BPIP)
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PowerGlove (
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SirJohnVonSlotty (
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satoshi (
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sirius (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
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3. 1268:
nanotube (
Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit
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BPIP)
4. 2252:
laanwj (
Trust: neutral) (
50 Merit earned) (
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BPIP)
5. 2676:
casascius (
Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (
193 Merit earned) (
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BPIP)
6. 2759:
midnightmagic (
Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (
27 Merit earned) (
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Pieter Wuille (
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203 Merit earned) (
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BPIP)
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Vladimir (
Trust: neutral) (1 Merit
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BPIP)
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dooglus (
Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (
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BPIP)
10. 4171:
Raize (
Trust: neutral) (
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Maged (
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forrestv (
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EPiSKiNG (
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JJG (
Trust: neutral) (
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SgtSpike (
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wariner (
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Kluge (
Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (
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piotr_n (
Trust: neutral) (
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CydeWeys (
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smooth (
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MiningBuddy (
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57. Post 66952091 (unedited backup) (by ZAINmalik75) (scraped on Fri Jul 17 22:42:13 CEST 2026) in CCE.Cash is an instant, low-fee, no-KYC cryptocurrency exchanger:
I believe this is simply their way of expanding their business to other countries because we have different jurisdictions. If KYC is required in your country where you live, you have the option of providing it just to pass the AML policies.
As Tryninja mentioned earlier, you can easily bypass them since Uniswap seems to be giving you two options if you want to share your data or not.
Yes, this Hook KYC feature is for LPs. If someone has a liquidity pool and they have used the Hook feature, then anyone who wants to swap from that pool has to get the KYC NFT first. If their wallet has none, then they will not be able to trade.
The LPs are still modular. You can trade in any pool you want, but confirm before swapping if you are swapping in a Hooked one or a free one where they won't check the NFT automatically. It is a basic smart contract feature that runs automatically, so I don't think Bitmover has to rush into selling his ETH just because of this tool.
But it has proved one thing. Centralization is really getting to where we once used to say it would.