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Yeah that's probably the biggest concern. Like you don't know who you are dealing with. He may be a great dude with the same problem as you: He was an early adopter and got some coins that do not come from your average CEX, meaning that he may be handling you coins with some AML risk, and then you go and deposit these coins in a CEX and you have a problem, even tho none of you did nothing wrong. Or even if you don't deposit them in a CEX, the bank or taxman may ask for source of funds. It's one of those things. I don't really see a solution, the moment you interact with fiat interfaces you assume so much risk unless everything is ridiculously traced to the point Bitcoin becomes unusable.

Congratulations for still being here, yet I think that there is an ongoing lesson that involves ongoing hesitation instead of action, and perhaps Gamekyuubi suffered from that same thing around the time of his drunken post from 13 years ago, and also he likely suffered from such ongoing hesitation since I doubt that he really became both a HODLer and an accumulator in a meaningful and material way... and yeah, ONLY he will really know the extent to which his ongoing hesitation had remained an issue.


For sure bitcoinlandia is the land of the free, and there have been and continue to be consequences for guys who fail/refuse to sufficiently and adequately stack bitcoin, even when they have had opportunities over the years... and for sure the longer that a guy had been in bitcoin, the more he could have had gotten away with being whimpy in his bitcoin accumulation and still profitted quite well, even from such whimpiness.

Since about March 2020, I have ongoingly asserted that guys need to purposefully be more aggressive than they had been in the past, and even suggesting that it takes more money to get similar results, yet at the same time, guys are going to do what they are going to do in terms of the level of their chosen aggressiveness, and level of chosen aggressiveness is a choice too.. a choice that has consequences, especially if looking 2-3 cycles into the future.


Even though you sound a wee bit lost @JaanusRaim, you are pointing out a likely dilemma that Gamekyuubi and others had gone through around that time, since it tends to be hard as fuck to both hold and to continue to buy for any guys who started to buy at the top.

My own history in bitcoin starts with my buying at November/December 2013 top, which perhaps is part of the reason why I suggest that the solution in stacking and actually profiting when starting at or near the top is continuing to buy... which most likely is not what Gamekyuubi, since he largely disappeared from the forum for many years.

None the less, we can look back and see that even a relatively mild investment amount of $50 per week starting in December 2013 would have resulted in about $33.6k, invested and a bitcoin stash of more than 23 bitcoin... but yeah, it pays to have will power, and so many guys started to buy bitcoin in and around 2013 but they did not stick with it.  Many of them got shaken out in 2014 and 2015, and maybe they were delusional at various times after 2013 - even though over and over there had been chances to make up for their having had drifted into delusion.. and so even guys who might have had waited to get started until 2017, they might have had still been able to recover from their having had gone through a slow start.

So maybe a guy who started investing in bitcoin in 2017 might have had to have had invested around $200 per week and invested in the ballpark of $100k or more in order to still get close to 11 bitcoin, yet it was still doable.  For sure not a bad place to be.  $100k invested and nearly 11 BTC. Many guys would be quite happy in being with that kind of a bitcoin stack size.

These days, no coiners and low coiners should still be investing, yet even if they invest $500 per week, they still might not be able to accumulate 1 bitcoin in the next 10-ish years... so $500 per week would be $25k per year and $250k after 10 years, and it may or may not be possible for bitcoin to average less than $250k in the next 10 years.. so there could be a bit of a struggle to get to 1 bitcoin, even for a guy who is willing to start right now with $500 per week and to continue for 10 years at $500 per week.


For sure a price curve that is less steep, yet I doubt that a less steep price curve justifies not getting started buying bitcoin.


Of course, you @JaanusRaim seem distracted, like you (as a shitcoiner) is asking another shitcoiner how shitcoins are going to perform in the coming years.  Great example of a lack of focus.. but hey, you do you.


It is not easy to not get sucked into shitcoins and/or trading.  I am not going to deny that, especially for many guys who likely come to bitcoin with a pre-existing gambling mindset.

Thanks — we'll keep the "reminder" label on posts like that going forward.



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On fees: most of what you're seeing on a $100 swap is the network fee for the USDT payout. ERC-20 and TRC-20 are expensive networks right now, that's well known, and on small amounts that fixed cost takes a big share. Cheaper networks are in development.

On timing: the 5–15 minute window starts once your deposit has its required network confirmations, not from the moment you hit send. Until we've actually received the coins, the exchange can't happen — that's normal for any service.

On the minimum: we're not planning to lower it. $30 is already as low as we can go — precisely because of network fees, smaller swaps can end up running at a loss.

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I had been working on variations of my fuck you status ideas for more than 5 years, and surely when we put together tools and tables and charts and go through various descriptions to attempt to better understand and to apply ideas to facts and to apply ideas to projections, then surely our ideas get better, yet they still may well be difficult to communicate.  Bitmover has surely been helping me with various ideas, and when we put the ideas within a tool, we are forced to bat the ideas around and even to potentially prioritize and to focus on certain angles as compared with other routes that could be taken.  Programming is not my forte either.


In recent times, there surely have been some guys who have been learning how to code, and getting AI to help with code, while at the same time, it also seems that guys who already had coding capabilities are able to use AI to leverage up, and most likely the fuck you status tool had been improved by AI, since nearly 3 years ago after the sustainable withdrawal tool had been implemented Bitmover and I had been running into some obstacles and even creative obstacles - which surely AI can help with some of the brainstorming of potential fixes too.. .but then it likely helps to have a coder in the mix - even though, as you suggest, it may well be possible to get rid of the coder too.. .. which may or may not end up causing some of its own issues.

I think that some of my thoughts about fuck you status and the tool have some aspects that can be tricky for some people to wrap their head around, including my ongoing use of the 200-WMA as a means to valuate BTC holdings and I ongoingly want to valuate BTC holdings using the 200-WMA, even in the sustainable withdrawal too, and it seems that instinctively guys want to battle with that way of bottom valuating BTC holdings, since we all tend to want to valuate our bitcoin based on spot prices including our knowing that any particular buys/sells are going to end up happening at spot price, not 200-WMA values, which surely the tension ongoingly affects dynamics in how we consider our BTC holdings and maybe how we might attempt to plan around managing our BTC holdings (and in the case of fuck you status, planning forward regarding our BTC holdings).  

It seems to me that even with my attempts to project forward the 200-WMA values, there is an ongoing tension in regards to a bit of a lack of mathematical formulation contained in the forward projection percentages, and so I personally think that the forward projections end up losing their ongoing incorporation of the 4-year cycles and perhaps ongoing upward pressures when they are attempted to be put into a formula, since of course, there is likely a presumption of ongoing upward pressure with ongoing diminishing returns coupled with a presumption that the returns (measured in the 200-WMA) are going to continue to go up at a certain base rate while diminishing at the same time.. Maybe the diminishing rate of the 200-WMA is no less than 3% to 4% per annum (even though spot price might bounce around all over the place within hopeful limits, too), while at the same time, knowing that we cannot really know with any high level of confidence how the average price (referring to the 200-WMA) is going to average out.


When I am trying to compare the future projected values of this fuck you status tool to the values in my earlier fuck you status tables, then surely I can see that changing the predicted inflation rate % within this particular fuck you status tool affects the quantity of BTC required for each of the three future projection fields, and surely the predicted inflation rate is another way of attempting to calculate the debasement of the dollar (or I suppose any other fiat that we might want to consider in terms of our valuation).

My own mental models and my prior ways of discussing bitcoin portfolio management tended to presume that once we get to a fuck you status level that we are aiming to reach, then it is quite likely that if we incorporate something like a 7% increase in our own withdrawal rate each year, then bitcoin's historical performance (and likely future performance - still to be determined) will allow us to keep up with the cost of living and presumptively BTC values will appreciate by a greater amount than the rate of our withdrawal, yet I can even see within the projections of the fuck you status table within the tool that my presumptions of at least a 7% rise in the value of the BTC for each year starts to run into tensions in the late 2040s and early 2050s so that the projection table is showing that the 200-WMA may well not be rising at least 7% per year which would likely justify lowering the annual increases in any withdrawal rate that would end up being implemented.  

I think that with any projection tool that incorporates various presumptions, we likely have to make sure that those presumptions apply when we start to act upon the presumptions, and it is one thing to still be building up our bitcoin holdings in anticipation of future projected values or even if we might go into a kind of bitcoin portfolio maintenance mode in anticipation of future projected values, and so then by the time we transition from accumulation to maintenance and then to the sustainable withdrawal, then we have to make sure that our actual values still work in light of our then current projections and/or to make adjustments based on how the actual numbers might differ from our earlier projections or how the actual numbers differ from current expectations about future values..and of course, many of us would like our future projected values to end up being better than our projections rather than adjustments having to be made in the direction that we had been overly optimistic in our earlier projections.  In other words, surely it would be better to have more value than we had expected rather than ending up having less value than we had expected to have.

One more point about any concerns that any of us might have about thresholds - like filthy rich status.  The numbers of filthy rich status are much BIGGER so there would be vast differences in the potential projections in regards to getting there.  Even if we take my plain ole projection of $2 million to reach entry level fuck you status. Prior to March 2020, I had been using $1million, with a kind of presumption that there was value in being a millionaire, and even though prior to 2020, there might have been some presumption that a $million is enough, we also likely realize that a millionaire in 2000 had way more purchasing power than a millionaire in 2020, so it is not like the concept of millionaire had been static, and even the concept of entry level fuck you status had been being widdled away little by little over the years.  Even though since March 2020, I have been proclaiming $2 million to be entry-level fuck you status, I have received a whole lot of criticism that $2 million is not even close to enough, even though I all-of-a-sudden doubled it around March 2020.  So surely, thinking about today's dollars versus future dollars is no easy task, and even if we proclaim that in 50 years $100 million will be a lot of money, it is quite likely to not even be close to filthy rich status in terms of then nominal value... and even if we choose to not go with the rule of 7s since there would be a doubling each 7 years and the nominal outcome would look something like this:

2026  $100 million
2033  $200 million
2040  $400 million
2047  $800 million
2054  $1.6 billion
2061  $3.2 billion  
2068  $6.4 billion  
2075  $12.8 billion

Maybe instead, we choose to stick with more conservative numbers and a doubling every 10 years, and the nominal outcome would look something like this:

2026  $100 million
2036  $200 million
2046  $400 million
2056  $800 million
2066  $1.6 billion
2076  $3.2 billion  

Even if we attempt to be more rosey about the matter, and yeah, we can presume some nominal resets, yet it is still difficult to escape any kind of proclamation that $100 million in today's values is not going to be a lot of money (and especially not even close to "filthy-rich" status), especially going out 50-ish years into the future.

What an investor need is a long term plan, not “target”. I think giving yourself target comes with a lot of pressure to accumulate a certain amount of Bitcoin within a particular timeframe. You may end up over stretching yourself even when your income does not allow.

And what do you mean by “know when to be aggressive and less aggressive”? That part is sounding like you encouraging folks to time the market; to know when to buy more and when to reduce amount. Is that why you said they should approach Bitcoin professionally? Tbh I don't think all these things you mentioned are necessary if you want to accumulate bitcoin long term. A simple DCA plan beats all these your talk of being an expert and knowing when to be more or less aggressive.

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    75. 2477002: inspace (Trust: +5 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1767 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    76. 2519096: Awaklara (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 862 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    77. 2597426: efialtis (Trust: +26 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1591 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    78. 2652924: geophphreigh (Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 1146 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    79. 2654005: zasad@ (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (8) 5846 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    80. 2658890: Rikafip (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (24) 8450 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    81. 2709122: Etranger (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1892 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    82. 2739424: NotATether (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (9) 10358 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    83. 2739454: Stalker22 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 1661 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    84. 2744352: bullrun2024bro (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (9) 5396 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    85. 2745549: decodx (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 1001 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    86. 2776678: Charles-Tim (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 6569 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    87. 2796662: Lillominato89 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1306 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    88. 2836461: Free Market Capitalist (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (13) 3679 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    89. 3442536: AHOYBRAUSE (Trust: +2 / =4 / -0) (DT1! (6) 2049 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    90. 3442614: YodasRedRocket (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (1) 651 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    91. 3486361: PowerGlove (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 7322 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    92. 3519432: SirJohnVonSlotty (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1110 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    93. 3558380: Mia Chloe (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 2304 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)

DT 2
     1. 3: satoshi (Trust: +39 / =0 / -0) (8901 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 4: sirius (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (935 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 1268: nanotube (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 2676: casascius (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (193 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 2759: midnightmagic (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (27 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 2786: Pieter Wuille (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (203 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 3380: Vladimir (Trust:  neutral) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 3420: dooglus (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (335 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 4171: Raize (Trust:  neutral) (24 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 4528: Matt Corallo (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (15 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Nem consigo imaginar. Seria um duro golpe.

A minha mulher batia-me, porque esta sempre a dizer, porque é que fazemos hold. 


Tem que se repensar a forma de como guardamos as nossas moedas. Pensar em formas, de "envolver" terceiros.

You see, if someone does mention either Bisq or crypto  or both, bank may record the relevant address as the risky one, and then share this data with other banks on mutual agreement , and finally this info may eventually fall into the hands of chainalysis agencies.

Great, I was going to reply yesterday but got to do more urgent stuffs.

BTW, that signed message was one of BIP322's test vectors, the signed message labeled as "simple" in this list: github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0322/basic-test-vectors.json

Comprei lá, vamos ver se me depositam.. a Tether deve gastar um bom dinheiro promovendo essa XAUT, não é a primeira vez que vejo promoção deles por ai.

Fazia tempo que não entrava lá.. nem lembrava como era ficar lutando contra os bots no order book

Essas carteiras tem que ser adquiridas sempre da fonte, a minha eu comprei direto do site oficial, veio da França e ainda paguei um balaio de impostos  ... eu não tenho coragem de comprar em qualquer revendedor que seja, a não ser os oficiais, pois em quantas mãos a menos o produto passar, menos chance de dar algum tipo de problema, é bizarro que vejo gente até vendendo carteiras usadas, sei la, haja coragem pra comprar e colocar dinheiro nelas.

Boa
A minha Ledger eu comprei na Best Buy dos Estados Unidos já faz um bom tempo
Tanto que é a Nano S que já ficou desatualizada

É uma grande rede, mas nada impedia que durante o transporte, armazenamento ou um funcionário mal intencionado adulterasse as carteiras e embalasse novamente


A minha Trezor eu peguei pela Amazon US e busquei em um locker, e foi a compra pela loja oficial da Trezor dentro da Amazon mesmo, nada de revendedor terceirizado

Como você já trocou a tela da sua Legder, você teve a oportunidade de ver por dentro dela e ver que era original sem alterações

Tem que esperar sair a investigação da Ledger para avaliar.. sinceramente, esses revendedores devem ganhar muito dinheiro e não teriam motivos para se matar desse jeito.. talvez um funcionário corrupto ou alguém da empresa de transporte (caso sempre utilizem a mesma).. mas ai o risco é o mesmo de comprar da loja oficial.

Acabaram de postar uma nota: https://x.com/cryptobilis/status/2108641764605354103

Eu diria que a chance é muito alta de acharem os culpados.

Folks need to understand that there’s a big difference between investing for the future and sacrificing their current financial stability for the future.
I see little to no point in accumulating bitcoin aggressively if you’re gonna eventually end up having to sell it off at a loss just to cover your basic needs, there’s no sense in doing that.

Build your Bitcoin holdings at a pace that you can easily sustain while still keeping enough money available for emergencies, necessities, and also for enjoying life.
Consistency certainly matters, but knowing your financial limits does matter too; long term investing can be sustainable without having to sacrifice present needs or financial stability.[/quote]

I think the best way to invest in bitcoin . Have an accumulation goal or a target goal before taken or making any rash decisions. Having a goal will help plan more effectively, like knowing when you should be aggressive and less aggressive.

So I’ve been playing with Bitmover &    JayJuanGee’s Tool, which is called JJG FUCK YOU STATUS CALCULATOR With this tool, you can set a more realistic Bitcoin accumulation goal based on your financial situation and cash flow.

Bitcoin investment is not something that should be approach carelessly . But something that should be handled more professionally, by planning effectively . The tool also come with some cool features like Dca calculator and others , so you can use it to improve your bitcoin accumulation . Remember, the goal isn’t to compete with anyone. It’s to build a Bitcoin stack that aligns with your own financial goals.

Lembro, era uma epoca muito sombria para o mercado brasileiro. Espero muito que a binance nao fique restringindo demais a plateia porque é inevitável que sem um player grande com muito volume, as outras tentem se aproveitar.

Sinto, infelizmente, que com essas restrições da binance, a gente vai voltar num patamar pre binance feito de taxas altas (lembro que no MB o negocio era tenebroso antigamente, tipo 1.2% pra sacar reais)

It is for all signatures done with BIP322. It was added to the final version of the BIP322: https://bips.dev/322/, under Types of Signatures (example test vector).

Do you mean this tool: bitcoindata.science/verify-message?
It works well with Taproot addresses signed via BIP322 standard, but somehow doesn't work in other address types that are signed using the same BIP322 standard.

E.g.: This Verified message in Sparrow (from BIP322 test vector):

Fails to verify in bitcoindata's verification tool:


It would be great to update it for compatibility with Sparrow.

So im assuming there is no annoying Chainalysis or similar that freezes your coins because apparently a mixer was used 27 years ago and now you are targeted as a bad guy. That is great, however I doubt zero paper work applies on all jurisdictions. The bank and taxman may ask where the money is coming from so you will need said paper work. And then who knows if they accept it as valid or not. This is the problem with Bitcoin, unless you bought them in a CEX, it becomes a risk using them, and you send the problem onto the next person. And since there is no real way to know if your coins are or not going to get frozen, it's all a gamble. If anyone has any experience in this context share it went. Im also assuming it depends the amounts you are selling, and also some banks and exchanges may apply different filters.

@bitmover, publicaram hoje um texto onde falam sobre essa mudança: https://www.binance.com/pt-BR/support/faq/detail/d79576b30c8240118a043129e0c21398

Outro detalhe é que estarão restringindo o acesso ao HODLer Airdrop (que você ganha uns tokens ao fazer 'staking' de BNB) e outros 7 serviços..

Também vão deslistar todas essas criptomoedas para brasileiros: XVG, USDE, USTC, DCR, DUSK, PIVX, BB, MANTRA, ONE, GMT, TFUEL, ZIL, ONT, RVN, ACX, HIT, PYR, VANRY, VIC, ICX, SCRT e STORJ.. o destaque fica para a stablecoin Ethena USD (USDE).

Não li todo o texto, mas pode interessar a quem utiliza a Binance.

O que me preocupa é que nenhum dos dois candidatos é flor que se cheire... se vier "um bom acordo" será que todo o discurso de anti-corrupção se sustenta?
Obviamente que não vão escancaradamente perdoar tudo, mas sim aflochar a mão no chicote, ou é delírio de minha parte?

Enfim, política brasileira... nunca foi sobre "o que é melhor pro povo", sempre foi pelo "o que é melhor pro nosso bolso".
Mas infelizmente as únicas opções viáveis pro segundo turno eram esses dois extremos, o menos pior é torcer por uma mudança, seja lá qual for 

Slot #: 18
BTC Address: bc1qpzwvre2ynerqxc6nk6ur8zspvdx54qrzwyy7f7

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Yes, it's a great wallet, it has some advanced features, but a beginner shouldn't take long to get used to it. Unlike Electrum, it offers taproot and now silent payments,have you checked it out?.

I think it's filling the gaps left by Electrum very well.

As I said before, I crossed names in a conservative manner. Here is a maximalist list.


Mind you, I might have made some mistakes. For example, maybe I should have included jeremypwr but I am not sure and I have included some that sound like casino reps but who I don't know, like 96OFFICIAL but we can get an idea.

Bitinity's signature ban has actually been a bit of shock to me. He is actually one of the users who gambles and shares his experience in those boards including promos and given the fact that he spends most of the time in those boards. Acquiring merits from there is definitely going to be so hard.

You should have crossed out campaign managers and contest organisers as well to bring out a clear picture.

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You were one of the contest organisers some months back, no? 

Upon reflection I have to agree. It does seem as though with the advent of other forums that are heavily advertising and promoting mixers, there would be no logical reason for mixers to pay the highest rates (or even high rates) to those participating in their signature campaigns (if they were allowed to use the forum again).

This is probably true but are those members (that are hoping for mixers to return to the forum) expecting huge payments for participating in campaigns?

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O PGR já aceitou que o Flávio fosse visitar o pai, agora só falta o ministro. Também arquivou inquérito sobre o Alan dos Santos. E a ala ligado ao STF já estava dando sinais ao PL sobre um acordão, mas foi rejeitado e além do Alexandre já falam sobre o Dino também para serem impeachmados. Mas o Dino em especifico precisaria mostrar algum trabalho depois das eleições para não correr esse risco. E o PL disse que tem 49 dos 54 votos para os afastamentos, não divulgaram quem seriam.

In as much as you are doing this to help the community I do not see it as competition, and even bitmover already it that it wasn’t so and he was also inspired by JJG, same thing you also got inspired by bitmover so there is no room for any competition rather, it is serving as a help to community.

Again, the Gold aspect you want to add, don’t you think it would likely complicate things for the community since majority interest are being focused on bitcoin DCA?
Besides there are less interest on people talking about Gold instead bitcoin are more widely discussed over here. But if you think of adding the Gold option then it’s left for you, maybe those who do have interest about gold may likely explore the tools as well.


Anyway, thank you bitmover for the calculator you build.

At the end of the day people know which tool they are going to use, even if there are many copied or other similar thing released out there.

But since you talk about the app, why not create that one? who knows maybe you will get more recognition and benefits on the the tool you created.

Also I tried to search for DCA app on Play store and App Store, then see so many app available. But I think its truly different if you know the source, since people here could verify if the app is legit and safe.

We’ve told you before, that doesn’t mean anything; the people who earn the most points on those forums are usually casino representatives.


I have crossed out names from that list on the safe side, as I could also have crossed out campaign managers and accounts which, although not directly linked to casinos, belong to members who are connected in some way through organising promotions or events with them. Take all those off the list and you’ll see that he doesn’t come off half as badly. 

Also, informative?

This is how informative real discussions are on another forum:

I didn't create a branch, edit, or use @bitmover's code. I might upload the source code to GitHub or create a thread about this tool, but I am just too lazy. I see this as just a personal project for fun, to help the community here who always says DCA this, DCA that. So I made it easier to compare DCA and lump sum strategies over a certain period of time. I was about to add an additional comparison with gold because I think it's necessary, but somehow I think it's too much

As you can see, this is where it all began, from my reply to this topic. That's why I say I got inspired by @bitmover.




I hope it doesn't become a subject of competition. Because the idea is not to compete, it's to help. I also don't get anything from this tool, except to fulfill my personal needs.

There seems to be some humor in your characterizing the differences in our approach(es) in the way that you did, since to me it seems that you are self admittedly still in your accumulation phase, and perhaps even early accumulation phase if we consider 2018 as a potential starting point rather than your June 2011 forum registration date, since you had said that you had not gotten in touch with your modern enlightenment about supposed bitcoin cycles until 2018-ish.

Funny that, no?

Even though I sometimes will change the characterization of my story in terms of when I had thought that I had done most of my bitcoin accumulation, I still tend to proclaim that I did most of my bitcoin accumulation between late 2013 and early 2017, but then I also had some issues in early 2017 that fucked up my bitcoin holdings to some extent, but it really did not knock me out of my consideration (whether rightly or wrongly) that I had enough or more than enough bitcoin.

So, from my perspective, there tends to be quite a bit of liberation in assessing yourself as having enough or more than enough bitcoin, which also caused me to consider that I had largely transitioned into a maintenance stage around early 2017-ish.

Even in current times, I have some difficulties in concluding the extent to which I might have had prematurely characterized my own bitcoin holdings as enough or more than enough, especially given some of my later definitions and even redefinitions in regards to what any of us might consider to be enough or more than enough in the bitcoin quantity department, and of course, partially based on our own individual factors, including our expected standard of living.


That is not very nice Oggie Poggie!!!!

 

You are going to just leave Phil hanging like that?

You know that you guys got into bitcoin around the same time, even though you might have had a bit of a head start on Phil.

Don't you feel any comraderie?


Of course, you are so smart and many of the remainder of us are so dumb that it seems inevitable that we are going to continue to have various similar kinds of debates that also are likely to conclude the ongoing fighting that "the rest of us" are going to end up doing with you, including if you are going to continue to proclaim that you actually know anything about anything (especially related to dee cornz and/or cashflow management ideas).

And, yeah, 2029 is not really that far away.  In 2 years and 2-ish months, we will be knocking on the doors of 2029.


I gotta quibble about this "too precious to sell" part, and I am going to try to keep this in terms of possible ways of considering the bitcoin holdings matter.. somewhat hypothetical, but at the same time.. not completely hypothetical, since I surely have the opinion that guys can reach a stage of enough or more than enough bitcoin, including that bitcoin can start to gain value at a faster rate than the HODLers might be able to spend it, whether referring to it as a complete replacement of income sources or as an income source that merely supplements other income sources.

I don't tend to buy those ideas that guys can never accumulate enough bitcoin, even though I understand how some guys might end up arriving at such a conclusion based on their having had gotten started accumulating bitcoin at a relatively later time, for example, they either were only beginning their bitcoin accumulation in or around 2019/2020 or maybe they really did not start accumulating bitcoin in any meaningful way until after 2020.

So, I won't deny that bitcoin accumulation can take time, since many normies (which I presume many of us to be) are not going to tend to have a lot of capital lying around that they can just throw into bitcoin, so it tends to take time to build up a bitcoin stack, even for guys who are staying focused on good practices, such as accumulate through buying and erroring on the side of holding.

I know that devil is in the details, but guys who might have concluded that they had largely accomplished most of their bitcoin accumulation prior to 2021 should have had been able to have the potential to appreciate the possibilities of accumulating enough or more than enough bitcoin.

Maybe I need NOT say much more, since I might be getting overly repetitious in terms of some of my previous posts, yet I will still reiterate that there may have had been ways that guys in these here parts had been able to get into bitcoin and stay focused largely on accumulating bitcoin through buy only practices and so therefore not really selling much if any of their corn, except maybe through spend and replace kinds of scenarios... but if they had largely accumulated most of their bitcoin prior to 2021, then they still should have had been able to appreciate the possibility of getting to enough or more than enough bitcoin.

Do I need to go through minimum fuck you status?  Oh shit.  I cannot help myself to show off the new fuck you status chart that bitmover put together.. so let me do a quick overview.

Right now, entry-level fuck you status (at $80k per year) only takes 12.0717 BTC, and of course, the fuck you status chart will show historical numbers for that $80k per year level and also it will show the future projected numbers that are continuing to go down, and you can project out 70  years to December 2096 where the quantity of coins for $80k annual income is projected to be only 0.0982 BTC.  Yeah, we could go into more detail of the significance of these numbers, and of course, maybe some guys want to double their numbers so that they are living off of $160k per year rather than $80k per year, and I also consider that bitcoin has good chances to tend to allow a 7% per year increase in the income too.. once the drawing upon the holdings commence.
 

Can't ever go wrong throwing in some animal farm imaginationings.

I've never used Bisq but I've heard it since years ago. Apparently it's great, but im not familiar with the differences from other DEX p2p alternatives like hodlhodl. What would you recommend?

Also, what's the AML/KYC like on these services? I was curious to try some transactions, but I don't feel like doing a lot of paperwork. How much can you realistically buy/sell monthly?

Eu já estava ficando cansado, eu sei que é cedo pra comemorar vitória, Flávio ganhou no pr turno, ainda tem o segundo pra ganhar, mas desde a década de 80, nenhum vencedor do primeiro turno perdeu no segundo.

Foi o mandato inteiro só de praticamente notícias ruins, taxas, impostos, decisões arbitrárias da suprema corte do país que parece estar representando mais os próprios interesses que os dos brasileiros. É estranho estar otimista agora, pq faz muito tempo que não sinto expectativa de melhora no país, na economia em geral, no mercado.

Agora que fique claro, o Flávio bolsonaro, se eleito, vai conseguir revogar toda essa marmeladas de MP das criptomoedas que o bacen fez? Tudo vai depender de suas articulações do congresso (que agora será a maioria de direita).

I konw that there are apps and websites that can do the calculation and I decided to still bring the simple way to the forum in case anyone is interested to use this. oh yes I made a list of just two unit but it can be use to calculate any number of units. I only gave or show how it works. And once the person got the basic, the rest will be easier. I haven't seen bitmover's tool's website, and if I did, I would have added the link in the op.

Most of us would not prefer downloading anything even if it looks like a regular spreadsheet. This is often taken into consideration by the devs and not everything needs to be downloaded. The spreadsheet from Coingecko is a useful one but I still do not rely completely on those sheets. Yes, I would use it as a guide so I can make future decisions accordingly but solely relying on these spreadsheets can be a risk because these sheets mostly rely on the historical data.

I too used to manage the spreadsheet a year back now I have left it over to AI now. I do not spend any of my time in managing those sheets because I have a few prompts that gets the same work done within a few minutes.

If you expand it to 1 year, he is the 13th most active poster on the Gambling board but 54th in merits earned on that board. To me that suggests his posts (in general) aren't particularly informative or interesting to most readers.


Because this account is particularly lacking in certain areas. They use the same words to describe the same or similar concepts, repeatedly -- for years now, living almost entirely in threads where not many people appear to be reading much of anything.

Nobody should be "free to spam." If you'd like, PM me some examples of accounts you think are clearly spammers that haven't been sigbanned yet.


Here's a list of the top 60 merit earners on the Gambling board over the last 365 days so people can evaluate the data themselves:

1 - JackpotterCasino: 195 merits
2 - Zwei: 136 merits
3 - Rainbet: 134 merits
4 - sportsbet.io: 124 merits
5 - notblox1: 105 merits
6 - SirJohnVonSlotty: 93 merits
7 - buwaytress: 91 merits
8 - memehunter: 81 merits
9 - goodpunt: 78 merits
10 - Mahdirakib: 75 merits
11 - Pmalek: 72 merits
12 - SamReomo: 66 merits
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If you read what op posted carefully, you will know that it wasn’t JayjuanGee that developed the tool. Op only credited JayjuanGee for inspiring him to create the calculator. Even JayjuanGee in one of his post suggested to op to name the calculator in his name (Bitmover)

One of the risks of keeping and promoting open source software is "competition," yet I am not sure if TedMosby used and/or edited the already open source release or if there was some other way that the "vibe coding" was accomplished.

Hi guys, I know we already have a nice DCA Bitcoin Calculator created by @bitmover here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594323. I've tried that tool several times and it's really helpful for me to simulate DCA strategies.

I was inspired by that tool and decided to vibe code mine. I added the lump sum strategy so I can compare both strategies. No thread about it yet, it's just my personal project (for fun).

If you want to try it too, you can try it here:
https://btcdcastrat.vercel.app


Website Screenshot:




When you download the result:

O Mercado sempre antecipa a situação, no caso da possível vitória que contemplaria ajuste fiscal e preocupação com as contas públicas....quem comprou titulo do tesouro IPCA+ deu risadas agora na marcação a mercado, mais de 30% em 1 mês a depender da taxa adquirida.

Renda variável subindo forte também, juros futuros despencaram....mas tem muita coisa pra arrumar caso o cenário se confirme, o esquerdola devastou bem a economia.

Ponto interessante. IOF é algo que pode ser alterado por decreto, ou seja, não precisa de aprovação do congresso. Portanto, desde que haja vontade política, é o mais fácil de fazer (dentre os itens mencionados na entrevista).

Houve, de fato, uma proposta da Receita Federal para implementar um IOF de 3,5% sobre a compra e transferência de cripto (com isenção para pessoas físicas de compras/transferências de até 10.000/mês) https://www.asa.com.br/central-de-conteudos/investimentos/receita-federal-propoe-iof-sobre-compra-de-criptoativos-entenda-o-projeto. No entanto, acredito que a discussão disso foi adiada para depois das eleições. Se cripto/stablecoins forem totalmente incluídas como parte do mercado de câmbio (o que o Banco Central já começou a fazer com stablecoins), parece que podem implementar uma alíquota menor, pois não faria sentido impor um imposto pesado nesse caso. Ou isso foi completamente descartado?

Os outros 2 itens mencionados (isenção de cripto estrangeira e aumento do limite para 35.000) se relacionam ao imposto de renda, portanto, precisariam estar em uma lei (aprovada no congresso). Além disso, existem leis que exigem que cortes na alíquota de impostos sejam compensados de alguma forma.

Portanto, novamente, é melhor procurar por algo colocado por escrito em vez de promessas feitas em entrevistas.

I guess is restricted or something.. can’t really tell, I tried to search all the services I know but none, not even one allowed the “.data”.

The  electrum/simple_config.py#L548
Sets base unit and the BTC_AMOUNTS_DECIMAL_POINT has a “default “ config which is DECIMAL_POINT_DEFAULT in electrum/simple_config.py#L880

That DECIMAL_POINT_DEFAULT is 5, and 5 is the base unit for mBTC

electrum/util.py#L105

I guessed you tried update right?.. that would still preserve your setting  if already set to BTC as default base unit.

Verdade, a foxbit ta altissima e tem um outro detalhe: ausência de volumes. Basicamente é quase certeza de pegar a 0.5 se estiver com pressa.

Ficou meio esquisito heim bitmover


Principalmente essa parte
Não sabia nem nunca tinha ouvido falar disso de ter que entrar no BC pra habilitar contas

Parece que agora realmente a Binance está reportando tudo e dentro do sistema brasileiro. Qualquer coisa já será reportada

Já faz algum tempo que estou usando outras soluções, e deixei de usar a Binance que por muito tempo foi minha corretora principal

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Galera, deem uma olhada nas soluções que temos hoje de p2p, pagamento cripto > pix etc
Pode ser que sirvam para vocês

That is the simple manual calculation. Many of us especially our newbies get confused if they here mBTC, sats, and even micro BTCs; but for simple calculations, using 1BTC as reference.
1BTC = 0.0001 mBTC that is by deciding by 1000 as you had explained.

For easy understanding especially for some of us who finds it difficult using calculators to calculate it, we can use some tools like that of Bitmover as stated above, and other tools you can see online. They are useful and makes it looks easy to access and knows the value using different units.
You can visit these tools This tool, and also this tool.

Congratulations mate, even after being gifted a free bet, it always difficult to put up a game a win. I don’t know how many games you put together but it really nice to see someone winning with Bitz. Also good one from Bitz for the bonus, I really hope I get to win one soon.

These bonus and free bet is really good, it really encouraging and I’m impressed. The league will be resuming soon, I hope I make some cash before then.

Also find similar site, aside from that tool created by bitmover.



Here's the site https://cloudminecrypto.com/bitcoin-unit-converter


This one is great calculator to https://cryptocalk.com/unit-converter since this one also have calculation for other top alts.

But for many available calculator to use out there, I will definitely choose to use first the tool created by reputable member here. Since I think that site is much safer to visit compare on the other suggested sites.

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Fair question, and SamReomo and examplens have already covered most of it. The main focus is getting Fast & White stable around the clock, along with ongoing improvements to the code behind the service. The full API and the affiliate program are also in development — the current API is read-only for now, but that's not where it ends. And yes, we see the affiliate program the same way bitmover does, so it's definitely part of the plan.

No dates for any of it — we'd rather announce things when they're actually live. Thanks for the support and the good wishes!

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🔄 Reminder: automatic recalculation

If the amount you send doesn't match your order, there's no need to create a new one. For example, you create an order for 0.5 BTC but send 0.55 or 0.45 BTC — the system automatically recalculates the order for the amount actually received.

da es von Lafu leider für die monate juli, august und september keine updates gab, aber dieses thema doch aktuell bleiben sollte, möchte ich ihn etwas unter die arme greifen und euch wenigstens das update für den monat oktober veröffentlichen
im oktober waren 116 user berechtigt in die dt-liste mit aufgenommen zu werden:

alte dt1-liste:

neue dt1-liste:

aus unserem deutschsprachigen bereich sind insgesamt 10 leute vertreten: Buchi-88, willi9974, o_solo_miner, Real-Duke, Lafu, mole0815, Lakai01, efialtis, bullrun2024bro und AHOYBRAUSE
hier ist nochmal der original beitrag von theymos: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5117330.msg67198109#msg67198109

wer genau rausgeflogen ist und wer dafür neu aufgenommen wurde, dies könnt ihr aus dieser liste entnehmen - hier hat es leider qwk und d5000 getroffen:

Atualmente administração US gera muito instabilidade para este tipo de questões.
A mudar alguma coisa é quando administração mudar e as coisas ligadas a este tema, continuarem/ficarem mais suaves.





A pergunta que faço é sempre: para onde?

Qual é o país que trás mais segurança e estabilidade, para ter um site destes em funcionamento, que não tenha as regras e leis semelhantes as US?

Nice!!!!  Thanks.


You are reading that correctly, and surely it can start to make more sense if you are putting in your own numbers and then attempting to verify that the numbers are making sense for you..   For sure, I personally recommend using other tools as well such as the sustainable withdrawal tool and even the DCA calculator, even though the DCA calculator does not really project into the future (even though there are some thoughts about potentially putting future projections into it).

In any case, when you play around with the various tools you might have various targets in mind that you might shoot for and work towards achieving, yet then as you make progress towards reaching such targets, then surely you might revise your targets and/or use other tools to try to project how you might want to potentially transition from bitcoin accumulation and then into perhaps a kind of maintenance stage and then perhaps later into considering some kind of withdrawal system that you might consider to be mostly sustainable... and personally, I had considered price based sustainable withdrawal to become more applicable (and earlier on) as compared with time-based sustainable withdrawal.. even though either of them could be used for guys who might want to start to try to engage in some withdrawals from their bitcoin holdings while at the same time trying not to deplete the principle.. ..

.... but then at the same time, when I go back and forth with guys, sometimes I still find that guys have tendencies to want to self-assess their bitcoin stash size as being enough or more than enough at a time that I would consider that the stash size had not quite reached that comfort level (or a large enough quantity size).  By the way, there are also other guys who I have discussed these matters, and I tend to think that they are overly conservative in terms of their likely already reaching a status of enough or more than enough bitcoin, yet they are still reluctant to start one or the other forms of sustainable withdrawal.

...and yeah, it might even make less sense to project out 10 years in the future from the present, but then in the present, you likely already have a bitcoin portfolio size that you would be building upon that might track some of your already followed past practices, and then perhaps as you progress towards the goal, your own stack size and maybe even changes in your income and/or your standard of living (or your expected standard of living) could end up affecting how you think about your current stack size in perspective of what quantities of bitcoin you consider to be plausible within your own income and/or expenses expectations.

By the way, of course you can project further into the future beyond 10 years, and up to 70 years into the future, even though surely for many of us, it becomes more concrete to project at shorter periods into the future, even though some guys might start out with a plan of accumulating bitcoin that might be 4-10 years or more into the future, yet as they continue to stack, they might have some delays and then other guys might end up making faster progress than they expected, so there could be a variety of outcomes, including surely if guys are younger when they start to accumulate bitcoin, they may well end up with salary and/or income increases that they had not really anticipated, but then they end up being helped out by getting into a situation with more discretionary funds to invest (and/or to use for other purposes).

O dono é de lá.. seria a mesma coisa que você incomodar o Xandão acho que não tem motivos para isso, do jeito que está, está ótimo.

Mas é curioso que o governo americano deu um 180º nas últimas semanas após a rejeição do Clarity Act.. tem muito projeto de regulação pró-cripto saindo de todos os lados, SEC, CFTC, FinCEN.

Mesmo assim eu concordo com o que o @bitmover trouxe.. para essa pressão voltar com força total para o outro lado basta uma eleição.. então às vezes nem vale a pena mexer no vespeiro.

Eu entendo vocês galera, o brasil não tem um histórico de democracia boa (a não ser a apurações das urnas feitas eletronicamente e no dia da votação), mas apesar disso, o Flávio ganhou no 1° turno, resta agora o 2° turno que provavelmente deve ganhar também.

O problema é a lavagem cerebral que é feito nas escolas (e muito mais nas universidades), o que é ensinado com viés altamente esquerdistas, é o método de gramsci, o que faz com que o pessoal saia das escolas ou universidades com um pensamento mais estatista, anti-empreendedorismo e socialista, por isso o pt consegue captar tantos jovens e a impreensa, mais de 80% dos jornalistas são de esquerda.

A esquerda entendeu que pra dominar uma nação, começa de berço, na educação, nas artes (artistas, atores, rede globo, cinema nacional, na impreensa e etc. isso explica a maioria dos atores brasileiros serem de esquerda.

Porém na internet, a direita domina melhor, pois é um espaço em que as ideias podem ser difundidas e qualquer um pode contestar fatos, cada um tem a sua bolha, a direita geralmente é a galera mais engajada na política, eles não ficam presos só na sua bolha, querendo ou não, eles assistem televisão tbm e acessam outras bolhas pela internet e por isso são melhores nos argumentos enquanto a esquerda tende a ser mais fechada e mais ignorante em ver o que está sendo discutido fora da caixa, isso fez lula perder as eleições do primeiro turno pela primeira vez depois de tanto tempo, deve que a janja que é outra burra colocou na cabeça do velho que ele iria ganhar no primeiro turno kkk

Por isso que eu acho que definir se funça público pode votar ou não, idade mínima e outros citados não resolveria a situação, o problema é a base, a educação, se a esquerda domina isso, pode impedir quem for de votar que não vai mudar em quase nada, vai é dar mais argumento pra esquerda de calar a direita, não caiam nessa armadilha, o problema como eu disse é quem controla a educação e os meios de comunicação...