If you are interacting with questionable devices, then are you working to transfer to some device that is more comfortable?  Of course, shitcoins will tend to have more ways that you end up having to rely upon closed source and therefore questionable third party involvement, so then if there is some other way to either move the value and/or to use that seed in some other device and then move the value upon getting access to the coins.. for these one time transactions into some place that you have more confidence. 

For sure, some of us feel that we are even less technically astute and then trying to figure out which sources we might be able to trust based on the discussions of others - and maybe sometimes we end up relying on wrong information.. so then yeah, how much value to keep in various shitcoins whether it is potentially to use them for some purpose, if the purpose is not trading them?  I do admit to holding a few shitcoins, but I largely don't do anything with them, yet I still sometimes have difficulties figuring out where and how to store them and potentially compromising myself in the process, but if it might ONLY be less than 1% of my total portfolio value (referring to bitcoin) then maybe it is not as BIG of a deal - not that any of us want to lose money - especially if we suspect that there might be some malicious actors involved in potentially separating us from our coins  (even if they have relatively small value).

Anyhow.. it looks like you guys have got this worked out.. to the extent that you are dabbling with shitcoins and wasting your time, energy and money in those endeavors, even though sure, I might concede that arguably there could be some value in playing around with some of that and personally experiencing (witnessing) some of the happenings with various other ways that shitcoins and shitcoin services interact (work to scam people out of their value - with a potential end goal of taking your bitcoin..  or converting their shitcoin and shitcoin related products into king daddy bitcoin ...hahahahaha)

Blockchain is broad, you have do some research and find the area you want.
I'm nore interested in the Bitcoin Blockchain that I give little to no consideration on others.

You don't necessarily have to be a computer science student/scientist in order to work in the crypto space, there are other non technical fields like
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In the aspects of technicality it can be difficult for those outside STEM but still those outside who have affinity  for maths or logic might not find much issues moving to this field.

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The most basic answer is that the browser is still "stuck" on the last upload.

Therefore, whenever you want to make a new upload, it is essential to click the "New Upload" button or refresh the page.

That's why it shouldn't ask for it.

It looks like Metamask needs Ledger Live to be able to connect.

It reminds me how easy Bitcoin is

Yep, it's the Nano S.

Even Bitcoin addresses don't fit the screen, but I can scroll through them to verify it. I don't see why an Ethereum transaction wouldn't be able to show  the address. I don't need smart contracts, just a regular transaction.

I'm still hoping the hardware isn't compromised and (physically) doesn't allow seed phrase extraction, but I can't be sure about this.

I'm not so sure about that.

This sounds like a terrible, TERRIBLE idea:
So you'll basically have to TRUST that the website or app you're using isn't going to take all your funds. That's like giving your bank account details to a stranger you have to trust.

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I found another option: Myetherwallet offline signing. It's going to be a lot of work to extract my private keys and figure out how to do this, which is very annoying as one of the main reasons to buy a hardware wallet is to be able to conveniently sign transactions in a safe environment. Face palm!

Update:
DT 1
     1. 35: theymos (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (55) 13696 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 203: HostFat (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (1) 300 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 11425: gmaxwell (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 9019 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 30747: Vod (Trust: +27 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 2340 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 33156: vapourminer (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 4230 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 51173: mprep (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 1721 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 55384: Foxpup (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (12) 2662 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 64507: philipma1957 (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 9748 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 65636: babo (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 4368 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 78147: Cyrus (Trust: +23 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (21) 2395 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 84521: Welsh (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (23) 3191 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. 84866: ibminer (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 2456 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. 85033: d5000 (Trust:  neutral) (DT1! (1) 8727 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. 97582: joker_josue (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (4) 5856 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. 112493: Pmalek (Trust:  neutral) (DT1! (2) 8217 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. 113670: Mitchell (Trust: +47 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (19) 1607 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. 123824: albon (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1599 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. 137185: jeremypwr (Trust: +58 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (19) 5931 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. 164749: stompix (Trust:  neutral) (DT1! (11) 6312 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. 164822: hilariousandco (Trust: +28 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (36) 1836 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. 189967: buckrogers (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 195 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. 204821: Buchi-88 (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 2141 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. 216582: willi9974 (Trust: +48 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2566 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. 252510: JayJuanGee (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (18) 12272 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. 257071: NeuroticFish (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 5928 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. 290195: achow101 (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (13) 6510 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    27. 300014: DaveF (Trust: +31 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (17) 6424 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    28. 314792: examplens (Trust: +9 / =5 / -0) (DT1! (23) 3128 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    29. 317618: nutildah (Trust: +21 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (29) 9176 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    30. 350580: irfan_pak10 (Trust: +17 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (2) 672 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    31. 355846: yahoo62278 (Trust: +38 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (23) 4018 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    32. 364070: bitbollo (Trust: +18 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 3435 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    33. 369212: zazarb (Trust: +33 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 548 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    34. 379147: pooya87 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 11009 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    35. 379487: LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (19) 11116 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    36. 405482: Real-Duke (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 2286 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    37. 407174: klarki (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (1) 4078 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    38. 459836: LoyceV (Trust: +31 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (61) 19273 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    39. 487418: The Sceptical Chymist (Trust: +32 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (30) 6170 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    40. 521899: SFR10 (Trust: +19 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 2832 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    41. 557798: TryNinja (Trust: +15 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (10) 8407 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    42. 698159: Jet Cash (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2037 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    43. 754818: holydarkness (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (15) 1310 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    44. 805820: Lafu (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (13) 3776 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    45. 811213: polymerbit (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 958 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    46. 830967: tweetious (Trust: +35 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 440 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    47. 889300: giammangiato (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1452 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    48. 901859: buwaytress (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 3538 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    49. 914465: crwth (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (1) 1086 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    50. 932931: Ale88 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 3225 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    51. 949248: Kryptowerk (Trust: +48 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1234 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    52. 986781: imhoneer (Trust:  neutral) (DT1! (3) 1349 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    53. 995810: hosemary (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 6316 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    54. 1000199: krogothmanhattan (Trust: +92 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (15) 3987 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    55. 1016855: JollyGood (Trust: +21 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (15) 1760 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    56. 1045971: igebotz (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (9) 2114 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    57. 1051955: roycilik (Trust: +12 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (2) 1906 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    58. 1052091: CryptopreneurBrainboss (Trust: +18 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (15) 5103 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    59. 1059082: hugeblack (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 4229 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    60. 1067333: El duderino_ (Trust: +27 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (10) 14771 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    61. 1097370: KTChampions (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2099 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    62. 1099980: Trofo (Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (14) 3061 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    63. 1137579: icopress (Trust: +76 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (34) 11015 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    64. 1190631: JeromeTash (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 1288 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    65. 1247226: logfiles (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 2145 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    66. 1269497: Bitcoin_Arena (Trust: +1 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (5) 1949 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    67. 1285797: GazetaBitcoin (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (18) 8933 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    68. 1291828: TheBeardedBaby (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 3304 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    69. 1311641: tvplus006 (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (14) 2382 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    70. 1339716: coinlocket$ (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (12) 1511 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    71. 1424178: mole0815 (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 3056 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    72. 1554927: bitmover (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 7026 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    73. 1582324: DdmrDdmr (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (19) 11203 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    74. 1825672: morvillz7z (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (12) 2197 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    75. 1827294: Husna QA (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 3144 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    76. 1852120: fillippone (Trust: +14 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (21) 19267 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    77. 1862043: cryptofrka (Trust: +17 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2237 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    78. 1980983: The Cryptovator (Trust: +21 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (19) 2389 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    79. 1982152: lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +27 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (27) 5003 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    80. 2003859: DireWolfM14 (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (18) 5130 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    81. 2015418: notblox1 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (1) 1470 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    82. 2344286: Little Mouse (Trust: +39 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (9) 3158 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    83. 2363935: YOSHIE (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (16) 1832 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    84. 2519096: Awaklara (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (4) 793 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    85. 2597426: efialtis (Trust: +24 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1538 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    86. 2652924: geophphreigh (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1102 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    87. 2654005: zasad@ (Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (7) 5263 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    88. 2658890: Rikafip (Trust: +14 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (23) 7378 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    89. 2709122: Etranger (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1705 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    90. 2739424: NotATether (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (10) 9073 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    91. 2739454: Stalker22 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 1501 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    92. 2775483: BlackHatCoiner (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 8849 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    93. 2796662: Lillominato89 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1126 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    94. 2836461: Free Market Capitalist (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (9) 2865 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    95. 3486361: PowerGlove (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 6590 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    96. 3506304: God Of Thunder (Trust: +7 / =4 / -0) (DT1! (1) 1340 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

DT 2
     1. 3: satoshi (Trust: +42 / =0 / -0) (8033 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 4: sirius (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (828 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 1268: nanotube (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 2252: laanwj (Trust:  neutral) (34 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 2676: casascius (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (141 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 2759: midnightmagic (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (27 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 2786: Pieter Wuille (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (198 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 3318: Luke-Jr (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (191 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 3380: Vladimir (Trust:  neutral) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 3420: dooglus (Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (334 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 4171: Raize (Trust:  neutral) (24 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Most users on this forum discourage people to use Ledger now. Coinomi also is a close source, but if he is not able to use any other open source wallet, it cwould be his last resort. I have just downloaded Trust wallet again and searched for zec, the wallet supports it but it is also a close source wallet and which I can it recommend.

I wouldn't call a Ledger "good": they upload seed phrases. But that brings me to my problem: I still have a Ledger, on which I received an Ethereum donation. I want to use it to pay for hosting, but Ledger Live tells me to update my firmware, which I don't want to do because of the link above. I tried myetherwallet[dot]com, but it tells me to enable "Blind Signing". A quick search tells me that means I don't have to confirm anything on the hardware wallet's screen, and the web wallet can just do whatever it wants. I honestly don't understand why anyone would want that, or why a hardware wallet would even implement it. It's the one reason to use a hardware wallet: confirm everything on it's own screen.
At the risk of going off-topic, but not daring to join the spam on the altcoin board, I'll post it here: any idea how to securely sign this transaction? Unstoppable wallet doesn't support hardware wallets, and my only other experience is with Electrum for Bitcoin. How to get rid of Eth from Ledger?

Weekly update (2025-10-31_Fri_05.18h)


theymos' raw data (format: time    amount    msg    user_from    user_to)
Sample
Full list^* (53 MB) (not limited to 120 days, 2511 Merit transactions added since my previous update).

theymos' data (human readable format, including usernames and post titles)
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On Fri 31 Oct 2025 03:42:26 AM CET, Julien_Olynpic (history) sent 2 Merit to hedgeh0g (history) for Re: Стоит ли сейчас инвестировать в Биткоин?.
On Fri 31 Oct 2025 03:42:07 AM CET, Julien_Olynpic (history) sent 3 Merit to Alex077 (history) for Re: Стоит ли сейчас инвестировать в Биткоин?.
On Fri 31 Oct 2025 03:41:58 AM CET, Julien_Olynpic (history) sent 1 Merit to Lannakosa (history) for Re: Стоит ли сейчас инвестировать в Биткоин?.
On Fri 31 Oct 2025 03:35:42 AM CET, rdluffy (history) sent 1 Merit to #BitcoinCore (history) for Re: Sorteio de Halloween - R$ 100,00.
On Fri 31 Oct 2025 03:21:36 AM CET, Xal0lex (history) sent 3 Merit to Zackz5000 (history) for Re: ANN - 2025 Bitcointalk Annual Pumpkin Carving Contest .
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On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:28:54 PM CET, AdolfinWolf (history) sent 1 Merit to Lutpin (history) for Re: What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:54 PM CET, Dahman El_Harrachi (history) sent 1 Merit to theymos (history) for Re: Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?).
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:22 PM CET, Tyrantt (history) sent 5 Merit to AdolfinWolf (history) for What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:13 PM CET, Last of the V8s (history) sent 2 Merit to Rosewater Foundation (history) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:12:21 PM CET, theymos (history) sent 1 Merit to AdolfinWolf (history) for What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
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Usernames to go with theymos' data
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0: deMerit (Bitcoin Forum) (history) earned: 0 Merit.
3: satoshi (history) earned: 8033 Merit.
4: sirius (history) earned: 828 Merit.
10: Xunie (history) earned: 1 Merit.
11: madhatter (history) earned: 5 Merit.
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3733034: Xyloo (history) earned: 3 Merit.
3733082: PhilosopherKing (history) earned: 3 Merit.
3733333: stay_determined (history) earned: 11 Merit.
3733455: ramheat1 (history) earned: 2 Merit.
3733546: PorkyP (history) earned: 3 Merit.
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Usernames machine readable
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UserIDs, sent Merit and earned Merit machine readable
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Total number of users who received 1 or more Merit: 50474
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Total number of users who gave away 1 or more sMerit: 26403
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Merit per day of the week
Monday 310984 (14.30%)
Tuesday 310740 (14.29%)
Wednesday 310917 (14.30%)
Thursday 332099 (15.27%)
Friday 330817 (15.21%)
Saturday 288517 (13.27%)
Sunday 290078 (13.34%)
Total: 2174152

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I understand what you are saying in terms of trying to structure buys to be more aggressive when the BTC price is closer to the 200-WMA and less aggressive when it is further away from the 200-WMA, yet tentatively, I believe that trying to strategize buys ends up lessening a persons aggressiveness in buying and ends up employing too much waiting and not enough persistent, consistent, regular and ongoing buying.

I frequently suggest that guys should attempt to buy bitcoin as aggressively as they are able to do without overdoing it.. so in that way they would not authorize themselves to sell any bitcoin (and/or to trade) until reaching their overaccumulation stage.

Part of the problem with what you are saying is that it becomes difficult to create a set an objective standard for how aggressive or how whimpy a guy should be in his bitcoin buying, and we cannot know bitcoin's price in advance, and one of the ONLY things that we tentatively know about bitcoin is that it is designed to pump forever... so in that regard, we are better to get as much as we can as early as we are able to do so without holding back or slowing down because we believe the BTC price may or may not have a future dip. 

Accordingly, from my point of view, it seems better to error on the side of paying more per BTC and getting in earlier rather than later rather than trying to strategize  buys, including trying to strategizing for buying on dips, which I think that trying to buy on dips ultimately puts guys into a less aggressive (and a more whiimpy) mindset.

Of course, once a person accumulates enough (or more than enough) then he no longer needs to worry about buying any more BTC so long as he sells within the limitations that keep him from falling out of overaccumulation status.

If a guy is feeling that he still needs to buy bitcoin then he should be doing it all of the time and regularly, yet I am not against structurally holding back some money for buying dips while recognizing that the dips may or may not end up happening, so then in that sense any money that is coming in that gets authorized for BTC buys, then perhaps 80% or more will just buy right away, and perhaps no more than 20% would be allowed to hold back for dips that may or may not happen... and if the BTC price keeps going up and no dip happens, then the 20% (each week or month) would keep piling up.. so there might be an itch to use it for buying at some point, yet the dip is not happening.

Try to genuine and representative in the kinds of proclamations that you are making, otherwise you will be understood as a non-credible dweeb who is mere spinning facts in order to tell some kind of a story that fits with your bias ways of dealing with the world.

I could hardly give any shits about Trump, even though many follks consider that he probably has been good overall for bitcoin and crypto even though sure he is a grifter and likely does not deserve to benefit from his various insider-bullshit activities... yet at the same time, it is really hard to do anything about it, since systematically the whole US governmental and/or administrative system has
allowed for that much power to go to the executive in spite of various supposed checks and balances.

Anyhow back to the price. For all intents and purposes, the applicable period of the political related pump was the discovery that Trump had won the election.. which surely there is some representation in that starting out price (of $50k to $60k) since we had spent a decent amount of time around there in 2021, and then for most of 2024, we were bouncing between $55k-ish and $70k.. so in essence we could proclaim something like $69k to be a ballpark idea of the starting out of the Trump pump.

In the beginning of November 2024, the 200-WMA was $40,500, and today it is $55k.

That is not outrageously UP, but it is still an ongoing grinding away at UPpity - it is ONLY 36% higher.. but still. a lot of assets would kill for such an ongoing and persistent UPpity.


Surely, he is a polarizing character, and his ongoing grift does not really help.

I suppose in some sense, I don't mind your anti-Trump proclamation, since it is quite likely that bitcoin gives few shits about Trump, so sure he and various other politicians are trying to get into bitcoin an perhaps even trying to harness its energy.. Can you blame them?  Maybe it is better to not have outward hostility, even though I still think that there has to be some level of hostility, otherwise Samauri wallet developers would have had been treated with a bit more of a lighter touch (a softer glove). They like bitcoin as long at they can control it and attempt to personally profit off of it.


Philip is not ONLY deranged about Trump.. He's got some other issues interfering with his logic (or lack thereof).


Some of my best friends are republicans.


Yes.. in some sense they are a necessary evil.

They cannot be stopped.

Bitcoin is for friends and enemies.

Shitcoiners also have these arguments about bitcoin needs shitcoins otherwise bitcoin would be nothing.

Even if bitcoin spot ETFs have been pumping bitcoin (even prior to their January 10, 2024 going live), they are a derivative product.

Keep your eye on the prize.. which happens to be bitcoin and the bitcoin gives the spot BTC ETFs value even if insiders in regards to Bitcoin spot ETFs have been pumping bitcoin since about October 2023 (when blackrock and buddies filed for their being approved right after GBTC having had won the law suite against the SEC).. Yes.. Bitcoin spot ETFs do not live in a vacuum.. there is a history... related to their getting involved..  Many guys here are not ignorant to many of those facts, even though guys will also differ in their assessment of importance or lack of importance of such ongoing financialization that cannot be stopped..

Financialization of bitcoin is just one of the current ongoing factors (and network effects - discussed by Trace Mayer in 2014/2015),  even some guys do not seem to understand the value of owning actual bitcoin rather than pumping bitcoin spo ETFs as if they were the same thing... The pumping of Bitcoin Spot ETFs is likely an attack on self-sovereignty aspects of bitcoin, even though nothing can really be done about the ongoing growth and popularity of such inferior bitcoin derivative products seeming to want to fool people into ideas that they are better than owning real bitcoin.


You are ongoingly trying to pump bitcoin spot ETFs... so yeah... that is problematic... and perhaps shows you don't quite understand what it bitcoin, even though you have been providing some links to bitcoin related information in recent times.

You might also not know the difference between a derivative product and the real thing.  Sure there are advantages and disadvantages to each, yet they should not be confused and/or convoluted, so hopefully you can figure out those kinds of nuances.. and perhaps even some day start to love king daddy rather than trying to convolute what it is and trying to present ETFs as if they were some kind of a savior to bitcoin when their role is not exactly full of benevolence and/or lacking in trade offs..

I can see Viscore HODLing, since he has been registered here since November 2015, so perhaps he has had time to accumulate bitcoin over the past 10-ish years..

yet you (Bazzu) have only been registered here since September 2022.. . so you should still be buying. .unless you were able to front-load your investment into bitcoin in the first year or two that you were here.


You come off as a bit perverted Viscore.. even though there are likely quite a few bitcoin treasury companies that have no back up plans, except that they took investors' money with a plan that bitcoin "only" goes up, which might not work out very well for them if bitcoin does not end up going up.

By the way, my own system allows for buys all the way down to $50k, if we were to go there.  I would likely go crazy otherwise, and yeah, each of the seemingly prepared ones of us has our ways of dealing with both volatility matters and also extremes in either direction, yet sometimes we might not know how prepared we actually are until our systems are put into test.  I don't like those situations, even though I keep buying on the way down, and surely there end up being quite a few folks who get separated from their coins based on their failure/refusal to put strong enough systems into place (and some of those folks do end up being innocent people, but yeah, tough lessons, sometimes.. and any of us can become scared that we might end up being one of the ones who end up getting slaughtered).


You might have a valid point this time, even though we know that time stops for no one.. and we cannot roll back the clock...

new times are being created, as we speak.


What you are describing hardly fits a definition to knock us out of our current bull market..   My own framing of the matter is that we are either in a bull market or a bear market, so we are in a bull market until we get kicked out of it.  I don't really have any strong definition, and I surely don't except various traditional definitions of bear versus bull market, since so far, bitcoin does not fit into a categorization of itself as a mature asset class, so in that regards, it has a bit of a unique positioning, and I doubt that it is just going to smoothly fall into some neat categorization and transition into stability and smoothness - those fantasies of bitcoin's transition into stability and smoothness have ongoingly existed in bitcoin since my late 2013 entrance into the space (and from my reading of some posts that were published prior to my actively watching aspects of the bitcoin space).

The more I type, the more I don't buy it.  I don't buy that we are going to have any kind of smooth transition into stability and smoothness.

Sure it could happen, yet I doubt it is has very good odds of happening, especially since exuberance is nearly inevitable, and then there are needs of correction from such exuberance.   It is possible that right now, we go into a crazy ass correction period to flush out the various overleveraged bitcoin treasury companies, yet I am not sure if there is enough froth to sustain such flushing out, and I am not even claiming to know anything, beyond just wanting to state that my ongoing belief remains that one of the most inevitable things in bitcoin remains its volatility, and I am not going to claim to know which direction, even though to me, the odds continue to stay in the bull slot until we are knocked out of such bull slot, which has not yet been achieved from my perspective, however lame it may be.


You are projecting.

There aren't any meaningful number of panicker WO members in these here parts, even if some guys have chosen to take some coin off the table and even if they are taking 10x or more off the table than the size of your whole current stash size.

From my perspective, bitcoin is more suitable as an investment rather than a trade, even though sure a lot of guys still might do quite well in regards to trading bitcoin and shaving off profits from time to time.. but it is way better as an investment rather than as a trad, such as continuing to buy it for a couple of cycles and then figuring out ways to mostly hold it for life.. even if the bitcoiner might start to draw upon it after a couple of cycles rather than continuing to buy it.

Guys who give up are likely treating bitcoin as a trade and/or are overinvested so they don't likely understand the thing that they had bought... Hopefully guys in these parts are mostly recognizing bitcoin as an investment rather than a trade, even though surely I understand some guys also fuck around with trading and/or bragging about their trading (and likely worsening of their position, even though they believe they enjoy their gambling lil selfies), cough cough author of OP.   


Speak for yourself, since you seem to be struggling getting into an investment perspective and practicing bitcoin in an investment kind of a way.

As I mentioned in my earlier post, there are likely a lot o0f guys who need to just buckle down and ongoingly buy bitcoin for 4 years straight at any price (just figured out the amount that you can afford to buy each week) and then reassess if they need to change their practices after buying ongoingly and regularly for 4 years straight...

Of course, in the end, guys can do what they like, since it can be quite challenging for guys to transition (or is it transform) themselves into an investor's mindset when it comes to bitcoin.


Of course, you can do whatever you like, even if it might not be good for you either financially or psychologically.. but whatever, you are in charge of your own life.

I have mentioned many times that bitcoin should be considered as an investment rather than a trade, and such investment likely has a 4-10 years or longer timeline, and most people it is going to be more than 10 years.  The only reason to have less than 10 years would be based on age and/or health considerations.

So if you spend one or two cycles building your investment by ongoing buying, then you should not be getting overly distracted by short term BTC price moves, and you should be able to reassess where you are at in terms of building your bitcoin investment after one or two cycles to figure out if you might need to make some adjustments to your investment strategies based on the quantity of bitcoin you had accumulated and of course your other personal factors.


Why would you care if you are an investor?  Perhaps you are buying $100 per week or $10 per week or maybe you are making adjustments to the amount that you buy based on your own ongoing discretionary income and/or other cashflow management factors  that might affect your ongoing buying of bitcoin.

Fucking around with trading or selling to get more bitcoin comes off as gambling rather than ongoingly building your bitcoin, which is likely amongst the better of goals when it comes to bitcoin... but hey, you are free to come to your own conclusions and do what you like in terms of ongoingly getting distracted by price in your eariest of years of supposedly wanting to accumulate bitcoin.


I understand a lot of guys are distracted by price, and newbies should be happy to be able to continue to buy during dips, no matter their interpretation of causes for the dips, and surely no one really knows if the price is going to dip more or return back to all time highs, but still dips seem like great opportunities to continue to buy bitcoin, even if your overall bitcoin holdings is either less profitable and/or perhaps dipping into the negative value in terms of your average cost per BTC.


You can do whatever you like when it comes to your own accounting or if you are likely overly emphasizing bitcoin as if it were on some kind of a mandatory schedule.


Of course, you do not need to give your details if you don't want to, yet I have a hard time imagining very many circumstances in which a guy would have had been able to accumulate enough bitcoin in the past year and a half, especially given bitcoin's price action and even if a person were to be able to front-load or reallocate from other assets into bitcoin.

Surely, you are free to look at bitcoin however you like, and I am free to criticize such perspectives, to the extent that they seem to make sense to me within my framework of seeing bitcoin related matters or if I might recall any details regarding what you may or may not be doing.

Of course, this is a public thread so the ideas are not just about bitcoin as it pertains to me and/or you, but potentially various other ideas that might be applicable and/or interesting within the discussion of bitcoin prices and pushups.


Yes.  Accumulation is the thing to do when it comes to bitcoin, especially guys in their early stages getting involved in bitcoin, and you don't need to agree with that framework.  I personally believe that trading is a bad approach to bitcoin, so I will criticize it whenever I get a chance to.


No one is stopping you from discussing your opinion, and surely if I don't agree with your opinion or I want to comment or question such opinion, then any of us can participate in such back and forth to the extent that we are even talking about anything that might make sense to ourselves and/or any other member participating in this thread.


You don't need to meet my expectations.  Each guy figures out his own way of going forward with bitcoin based on his own circumstances.  I personally think that if a guy is able to invest anywhere between 5% and 25% of his income into bitcoin, then it could take him anywhere between 4 years and 20 years to have had merely invested 1 year of his income into bitcoin depending on how high or how low within the range he is able to consistently invest into bitcoin. 

Some guys are more capable than other guys in terms of how much they are able to regularly invest into bitcoin, yet some guys have built up investments and/or savings prior to coming to bitcoin, so they could reallocate some or all into bitcoin from those other investments in order to potentially make better progress in regards to their bitcoin accumulation goals (which apparently you give few shits about bitcoin accumulation goals since you might be too distracted by trading (ie gambling) or perhaps you also are distracted by shitcoins too.

Anyhow there are ways for guys (whether you want to or not) to measure their progress along the way of building a bitcoin portfolio and in order to figure out how to potentially transition from accumulation to maintenance and then to liquidation... and each of these are stages in a journey, in which we do not need to agree upon, where a person might be within their journey or even if they agree with the journey in the event that they are distracted by trading(gambling) and/or shitcoins.

It can take a long time to build up a bitcoin holdings, and even more time, if you are distracted... yet it seems to me that if a guy is able to get to a point in which the 200-WMA valuation of his holdings is equal to his target level of income that he would like to receive from his bitcoin, then he has reached entry-level fuck you status.. so of course, that level of income is going to vary from person to person, yet since 2020, I have frequently liked to talk about $80k per year as being entry-level fuck you status (and prior to 2020, I referred to $40k per year as entry-level fuck you status). 

So, right now, a person would need to have 14.585 BTC in order to be at default entry-level fuck you status that would presumptively allow a sustainable withdrawal of $80k per year and with a 7% increase in the dollar value each year perpetually (forever and ever and ever) into the future  and surely the amount is going to vary from person to person..  and sure we can disagree about the various presumptions of the sustainability of such a model withdrawal system.


Of course, you can share your thoughts, and if they seem dumb then you might get unwanted feedback about those thoughts. Of course, if the BTC price is moving  a lot in one direction or another (especially down) there could be some increased intensities in the kinds of disagreements that otherwise agreeable guys might enter into... and we may well even disagree about how to deal with such BTC price volatility and our opinions might become strong in those topics. No one is stopping you from talking, even if I suggested that you should be happy to be able to accumulate bitcoin, yet perhaps you don't really know what your purpose in bitcoin is since you may well be thinking about bitcoin as a trade rather than as an investment and therefore you consider that I am being overly imposing on you when I am proclaiming that guys should be accumulating bitcoin. 

We can agree to disagree, yet I doubt you are going to stop me from suggesting that guys need to be accumulating bitcoin, especially newbies and perhaps anyone who have been in bitcoin less than a full cycle.. and surely there are a lot of guys who likely should be accumulating bitcoin for a couple of cycles or more whether they agree with that or not.. so in the end, if they don't agree because they don't see the value of bitcoin, then I am not going to agree with them, even though, sure, they can do what they like in terms of accumulating bitcoin or not and/or whether they agree that the accumulation of bitcoin is a goal that is suitable to their situation/circumstances.


Your opinion is that I am not being nice enough to you?  Is that it?


Good. At least you agree that accumulation is a good goal, and so if you agree that accumulating is a good goal, then what is the problem?  Just keep buying bitcoin, and if there is a dip, then that shoudl not affect you, unless you run out of money.

Bitcoin accumulation involves both the regular buying of bitcoin, yet it also involves the creation, building and maintenance of strong cashflow management systems/practices - which also include back up funds.. So surely, it can take time to figure out how to increase your discretionary income so that you can buy more bitcoin, yet if you are a young person, you might need to be working on your employment skills and abilities to earn future income, so it is not always clear whether it is better to focus on earning more and spending less to increase discretionary income or if it is better to work on employment skills.  You are the one that has to figure out those kinds of details to figure out what might be your better path foreward and also based on your own individual factors.


It is up to you whether to respond.. and we don't have to agree.

If the downloading and installing of the software/app is disturbing then the official website is always there for people to use. In downloading there are many things to consider. The storage space in the and the speed of the device. If the space is not big, and you download app or software, it would slow the system so it is good to use the Casino official website. But if the it is from the website to download the apk, it will be ok.

If you don't test, you may never found out the vulnerability of the website, just like I said you can do analysis if you have the knowledge or with $2 ETH on base chain, you should be able to make simple transaction, there are some wallet drainers that will sweep wallet that has as low as $0.5 ETH if the chain is on base. Though, I'm not asking you to risk around any websites if it's not worth what you want to see.



Not only Metamask, Rabby wallet has this feature, before you make any connection with any website, it tells you about the site popularity if it's has been listed on Defi lama and other Defi website tracker, this alone tells you the website is legit or fake. Another is Rabby wallet analyse the website based on activity, if there has been bad reviews about the website. It also warn you about the connection if it's a legit website.

If the website support Solana chain, phantom wallet gives you warning too. It may even stop the page from loading if you have the extension on your PC or use the browser on the phone version.

It's more about exposing scam and making sure people people get right information if they google the site before making any deposits.

I wanted to make sure the website is scam before I make any accusations, but all the red flags speak for themselves so I'm 99.99% sure it is scam website now.


Thanks for the info, I didn't know about that Metamask functionality. I'll make sure to report this site when I log on my computer which has Metamask installed.

Bitcoin has not gone up enough for you in your last 8 years since your forum registration, and you feel that your prospects by accumulating and/or holding bitcoin are not good?

I think that bitcoin has been a great place to hold value, and I have am fairly confident that in 4 years the bottom price of BTC (such as the 200-WMA) will be higher than $150k.  Sure my earlier projections show late 2029 as $211k (for the bottom price), and that number might have to be projected (readjusted) downwardly, so there is a certain need for any of us who are buying into bitcoin (or already bought into bitcoin) to go with the flow in terms of figuring out if there might be better places to put value if you believe that bitcoin is going to start to underperform other places in which you could put some (or perhaps all?) of your time, energies and/or monetary value.

You are probably losing the plot  (and/or losing focus) if you believe that there is some other better place to put value outside of bitcoin.. but that's your choice. 

On a personal level, it is not like we can control outcomes, but we can try to hedge as best as we can.

By the way, the 200-WMA moved from $17,003 on this same date in 2021 as compared to where it is today at $54,852.  That is about a 3.23 appreciation of the bottom (which should give us some assurance)


It seems many folks find the method of implementation part as troubling;.. even though various core folks keep proclaiming the change to have had been a non-change change..


Yep.  It seems to go back to the question about where else are "we" going to go? 

Dee cornz seem to be the best game in town, and perhaps even you (LFC) might be questioning the extent to which your negativism about the corn relates to your own seemingly over-reliance on dee cornz being on some kind of a schedule.  Some normies are going to get manipulated out of their corn (just like they were in 2021) based on expectations that BTC price moves have to happen within a certain time range and with a certain kind of magnitude in order to be "acceptable,"  and remember how some folks got so separated from their coins because they considered the 200-WMA to be some kind of an impenetrable price floor... there were a lot of reckenings when BTC prices went below $22k in June-ish of 2022 and then spent a lot of time below the 200-WMA (a considerable part of 16 months).

There is some non-rigidity in the bitcoin framework that we have simultaneously come to love and and get frustrated about.

By the way, I know deep down on the inside you both want to be correct about your side of the bet, yet at the same time you want me to win. hahahahaha

Isn't this outstanding bet making the whole recent BTC price dynamics matter so much more entertaining?  Everyone (meaning bitcoiners) is going to be happier if I win the bet, but then at the same time, life in bitcoinlandia cannot be that easy, right?


There's nothing wrong with shaving profits at various points on the way up, especially for anyone who considers that they got enough or more than enough bitcoin. 

Some folks, it is not going to make a lot of difference if bitcoin is $60k versus $120k versus $10k.  They are well off in any of those scenarios, and sure as bitcoin holders, they likely prefer higher prices rather than lower prices, but there no urgency in the matter.

On the other hand, if guys are fairly early in their bitcoin accumulation journey, it seems better to just keep accumulating for a whole cycle or two in order to get far enough in their BTC accumulation that they feel as if they have enough or more than enough corn.


I would think that it helps to keep repeating the same ideas, so that perhaps the uttered behaviors will manifest (at least within perception) into reality.

If you want a strong security, you should buy a hardware wallet like bitmover suggested.

If you feel you can want a software wallet, electrum is good because it's easy to use and a bitcoin only wallet. If you want a multicoin wallet cake wallet is good. It has the swap features from one coin to another.

Having a mobile application for the casino does sound good some people may want it because they think it's easier and more flexible of course, like in games that are generally in the playstore and many gamers download it to play, it's just that for me personally casinos with mobile applications are not very interesting, many features will be cut to simplify it, I prefer how the casino runs on the web and enjoy it in the middle of the night on my big PC screen.

I think it's not easy to add an app to the Play Store. Developers need to meet several requirements for their app to be listed, like having a valid gambling license and making sure the app follows the rules of the target country. This is important because some countries don't allow gambling apps, so the app might not appear or be available to download in those countries on the Play Store. That's why it might be better if the app could be downloaded directly from the website to avoid these restrictions.

As for the Bitz mobile app, I downloaded and installed it on my device. However, during the installation, I got a warning from my phone's saying that the app '"Might Be Risky" and that it has sensitive permissions related to storage.
Has anyone else experienced the same thing during the installation process?

I think that it will better if Casinos will make their apps all present on Play stores where anyone interested in anyone of the Casino will quickly download it. Because the truth is that not everyone is comfortable visiting the site every day if they wants to bet so the best advice I can give to Casino's is that they should make their mobile apps available to all regions so that Gambler's can take advantage of it .this will even be better for the interest of the Casino because many Gambler's will find it easier to bet this way.

Well man, I agree in part of what you say but in part I don't. It would be cool to have it on the play store or apple app store but I think if you trust Bitz.io to bet your money in it you should trust it also to download the app. And I don't know how difficult it is to get an app on those stores. If it is easy for Bitz.io I would say go for it.

Boas dicas bitmover e mikel_012

No Nubank eu não sou Ultravioleta, mas vou pegar essa da perplexity.ai pois tenho Paypal


Quando você aprende a usar o cartão de crédito, ele vira uma ótima ferramenta né
Aqui esse ano eu usei sala vip no aeroporto, estacionamento grátis em shopping, cortei fila no aeroporto (Visa Fast Pass), recebi cashback de 1%, não paguei anuidade, ganhei seguro saúde viagem por pagar a passagem com o cartão...


Acredito que você seja uma pessoa controlada e que não fica devendo no cartão
Talvez seja uma boa ideia focar em 1 só cartão de crédito (ou 2 para ter um plano B) para conseguir um bom cartão black, um bom relacionamento com o banco e ganhar várias vantagens

Eu tenho tido problemas de performance no chatgpt nos ultimos dias... conforme as conversas vão se tornando extensas, o meu navegador utiliza muito recurso de CPU, a aba trava e fica impossível manter a fluidez da conversa.... algo realmente muito chato.
 
Tenho utilizado mais o Grok, porém prefiro o chatgpt por parecer ser mais certeiro nas respostas.
Mas... gostei da promoção do Perplexity por um ano, vou testar por lá e ver se consigo uma experiência bacana, acredito que daqui um ano a IA terá evoluído tanto e com tanta concorrência a mais que os preços serão mais atrativos ainda, ou então até os modelos gratuitos serão bom demais para usuários comuns que não precisem de tantos recursos.

Enfim, fui pra opção "B" do @mikel_012, mas mesmo assim agradeço ao @bitmover pela iniciativa do OP e por listar também a oportunidade com o Nubank.... faz um tmepo que to estudando se vale a pena assinar o ultravioleta.... ao mesmo tempo em que to querendo me desfazer dos cartões de crédito

É o GPT 5 sim.



Tem todos esses modelos inclusive dá pra ligar o raciocínio deles pra ter uma resposta mais profunda.

Eu prefiro o site do perplexity do que o chatgpt.

That's right. The casino mostly only allow using VPN to protect user privacy by hidding real IP addresses but they are very against any VPN use in order to bypass their geolocation restriction on a nation. It's against their ToS and likely against governement regulation against gambling in that nation too. As casinos don't arbitrarily ban people from a nation without reasons like in the sanction OFAC list or that nation prohibit gambling.

Using VPN or not, and how to use it, depends on the ToS and whether your nationality is welcome on that casino. If you are not welcome, prohibited, let's avoid using VPN to bypass anything, as it is risky for your account and fund later.

That's an exception, I did not talk about the usage of VPN to bypass casino's restriction as I talked about when VPN is allowed and it is not to bypass such restriction as what is discussed previously in this thread.
In that case, of course it is player's fault to use VPN to bypass casino's restriction but again I'm not talking about this case.
Anyway cheating the government? My country is strictly ban gambling, as long as the casino is not restricting my country then the casino has no reason to refuse to pay my money.
I'm talking based on real experience not just based on assumption, but of course I do not recommend others to use VPN there might be a risk but as long as we are ready with the risk, nothing to worry.

That's really an incredible win by @mjouan the guy always put his name on the header and create lots of hype to people which read his gains.

We could really see that Metawin pay such huge prize without giving any issue to the winners.

For sure same as you many people would try their luck to win to.

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Looks like there's good news will came out soon, which provably give great reward to their community.

Of course.

TROLL-POWER'S UNITE!!!!!!!!!


I have given plenty of examples in the past, and there are a variety of ways to measure overaccumulation status (and getting there), and likely our own 9 individual factors may well have an effect on how any of us would conclude getting to overaccumulation status.. yet at the same time, it merely could be age, health and past standard of living factors that could affect such conclusion..

It seems a bit presumptive of you (and others who come to the same conclusion) that no matter what people are going to want more and more and more.  I cannot agree with such a presumption, even though I recognize and appreciate that really young people might be able to expand more in terms of their standard of living expectations as compared with older people.

In order to rebutt your assertion that no one can reach overaccumulation status, I really would only need to give one example in which the information could be extracted or some variation of the information could be extracted.

Let's say that a person had come into bitcoin around the beginning of 2016, so right now he would be around 10 years in bitcoin...

And maybe in 2016, he was in his mid 30s, and he had already spent 10 years investing at the time that I got started in bitcoin, so between 2006 and 2016 he had earned between $25k and $35k, and so during that time his investment portfolio had gotten up to about $50k because he had invested around $30k and the portfolio had gained in value.. and maybe he had been investing between $50 and $100 per week, so when he came to bitcoin, he already had an investment habit of $100 per week  and he had $50k saved up.

He decided that he was going to put $15k of his already existing investment portfolio into bitcoin between January 2016 and June 2016, which would have had been $555 per week for 26 weeks, and so he would have had invested $15k and accumulated right around 33.5 BTC for that quantity invested.

Thereafter, from July 2016 until present, he would have had continued investing into bitcoin at $150 per week, which would have had resulted in nearly another $70k invested and right around 14 BTC accumulated. 

In the beginning of 2016, he was making $35k per year, and now he makes $50k per year, so he figured that he would be willing to quit his job as long as his bitcoin could support him at a minimum of $80k per year with a 7% raise each year.

In essence right nw he holds right around 47.5 BTC, and you are going to try to proclaim that at some point, he would not have had concluded that he has enough and/or more than enough bitcoin to support his aspirations to have a passive income of $80k per year with a 7% increase each year?

Right now, his 47.5 BTC could support an income of about $260k per year forever and ever and with an increase of income of 7% per year forever and ever, and so it seems to me at some point earlier he would have had figured out that he has enough or more than enough bitcoin.  Right now he is about 45 years old (in this hypothetical). I think it is a pretty clear example, and variations that example could achieve similar result of a conclusion of a guy who would have had accumulated enough and/or more than enough bitcoin.

It seems to me that guys who set goals for themselves about wanting more and more and more are being unrealistic and/or creating goals that are not necessary to achieve, even though sure people can do whatever they like, even dumb shit in which they are no longer seeking financial freedom but instead perhaps wanting to just show off.. and sure that can be a goal that they want, but they are making their goals impossible to reach since they are setting goals that they will never be able to reach... instead of attempting to be more realistic and reasonable in terms of how they might be both happy and financially sound without having to feel like they have to compete with Elon Musk or some other fictional character and fictionally high standard that might not be even within what they really want in terms of their own past standard of living that they might want to improve within reason but not in unlimited ways.. perhaps double or triple what they had been accustomed rather than 100x what they had been accustomed.

But you can do and believe what you like in terms of what you believe to be the non-existence of overaccumulation status, if you are wanting to impose those kinds of never attainable standards upon yourself and/or you think that everyone has those kinds of standards, when they likely do not.


I doubt that is a preferable state of affairs, even though it may well be the case that the stronger hands are currently the owners of the ETFs, since people are not actually holding their coins if they have ETF shares and they tend to not even have a right to self-custody their coins.. .so not exactly preferred but it could be the case that several of the ETF providers are buying coins with other people's money who buy those ETF shares.

It would be difficult to argue that the ETFs are the preferred way of holding bitcoin  in terms of either financial sovereignty of individuals and/or having the power to move the coins or to protect them from certain kinds of attacks by 3rd parties (such as the ETF administrators) or even governmental entities that might undermine bitcoin through such instruments - even if the thread might not seem obvious at the moment, and even though bitcoin cannot stop folks from coming to it and creating financial instruments upon it, so it might be up the market to figure out how those things are valued and the extent to which bitcoin still has value if hardly anyone is holding their own coins and if the custody of coins transfers into third party owners and/or the administrators of ETFs and various other derrivative product administrators, whether referring to MSTR like products or otherwise.

Bahkan sebenarnya sudah sempat menembus dibawah $100.000 juga hari ini bitcoin. Saya tidak pernah menduga bitcoin bisa menembus support sebelumnya. Tetapi memang sekarang sudah terjadi. Dan mungkin kita harus bersiap dengan skenario terburuk. Tetap bukan hal yang mustahil dari harga sekarang malah ada pembalikan arah yang kuat.


Namun bagi para pemegang altcoin yang belum sempat keluar posisi, maka sekarang pasti seperti mimpi buruk. Apalagi yang trading future yang memasang long untuk pasangan perdagangannya. Semoga saja tidak terkena likuidasi. Tetapi tidak mengherankan melihat harga sekarang turun pada bitcoin. Namun untuk altcoin sepertinya Altseason benar-benar harus dilupakan untuk musim kali ini.

Basta um endereço listados pela Arkham não ser dele, para haver o risco de uma baleia decidir mudar de vida este final de ano. Como o bitmover comentou.

O que vejo nesses casos, de apostas 99% de garantidas, é que se trata de um método da plataforma de atrair novos utilizadores. A pessoa fica interessada, vai pesquisar mais e talvez apostar mais noutras, que já não são assim tão garantidas.

Por isso, acho que é mais uma estratégia de marketing, do que outra coisa.

Acho difícil empresas desse nicho anunciarem por aqui, se fosse já teriam feito e eu tenho certeza que algum gerente já tentou contato com eles.

Eles teriam que perceber alguma vantagem que faça sentido ao modelo de negócio deles, tem que apresentar as métricas (sejam elas quais for, que são utilizadas pelos gerentes).

Uma boa estratégia que alguns membros fazem é tentar uma parceria com algum casino ou empresa de qualquer outro ramo que estão aqui no forum, negociar individualmente uma assinatura, avatar e etc.

Price saat ini
Mungkin banyak yang ngira bitcoin tidak akan melewati titik support tapi seperti nya sedikit lagi tembok itu akan jebol dan turun ke $100K meskipun ini hanya perkiraan saja tapi tetap saja masih ada optimis bitcoin maka rebound nantinya dan berharap bearish tidak datang lebih awal. Kemungkinan pasar terus berdarah akan terjadi dalam beberapa hari ke depan.

Difícil, já conversei sobre isso anos atrás.


Pois então, também vejo no YouTube em uns canais de assuntos aleatórios, mas imagino que quase ninguém assina por não ter muita relevância com o tema.. aqui no fórum seria bom por ser um nicho tecnológico + paranoico com privacidade.. eu queria usar uma assinatura por 1 mês para ver quantos cadastros pega.

Ontem estava olhando aqueles cartões cripto também, alguns pagam comissão, vou olhar com calma depois.. Bitrefill também tem um programa, mas paga só US$ 5 uma única vez.

Essas campanhas de cassinos tem muitas regrinhas de postar em determinada aba, máximo de X posts em abas locais, etc.. não é muito minha praia.

Yeah, its not a race anymore.. all the rewards we give out now are to the players (as tickets) for their bet volume. So this is just a high score list for bragging rights-- we may give tickets with regards to this list in the future, but for now its just a ranking/high score.

Its a good place for people to look at other bets and to understand the site etc.

so its takes the price at the time of bet, not current. I will double check it tomorrow but the top ones are 100% right- trust me, paying out thousands is not hard to forget.

What's that FeeBuddy? You're telling me fees didn't explode after the release of Bitcoin Core 30.0? There isn't a race to cram arbitrary data in the blockchain thanks to Core lowering their guard and kowtowing to spammers? (I don't actually believe this, I'm just saying it in a mocking fashion for dramatic effect).

I'm getting a little bit complacent in this sub-50 cents fee market... It will be a real bummer when activity shoots back up again, and it will undoubtedly at some point, we just don't know what form it will take.

Its not a bug- it takes the price of the currency AT THE TIME OF THE BET...

The assumption that there's a certain paradigm shift is not far-fetched and for sure, it didn't just start all of a sudden.

Several events like the halving, spot ETF, reserve banks creating and massive adoption has contributed greatly to this, in that Bitcoin as the leading crypto currency has grown so much in value and is gradually or even rapidly maturing from a more speculative asset to a more acceptable and accessible financial instrument.

Added bitz.io here: https://coinbets.com/casino/bitz-io/

One disadvantage of Hyperliquid is the exchange does not have too many trading pairs which are available at centralized exchanges and even traditional Decentralized Exchange.

Hyperliquid started a new trend but if we recall what CZ tweeted about his plan after stepping back as Binance CEO is learning about DEX which in his opinion months ago, is the sort of exchanges for the future.

Hours ago, he publicly revealed that he already bought ASTER with his own money and he will not trade it. Just buy and hold the token of Aster Perp DEX.

Bisq can be used on mobile devices too. This short guide on how to use Bisq on mobile.
new Bisq Easy launched (Android only).

I would have to agree. Its a real stretch here and seems like purely just coincidence.  Perhaps just perhaps maybe satoshi tried to do something with the "hot" or something but i feel like the chances are slim, maybe there is more to unfold though. Why dont you keep looking and studying while youre at it. We could be wrong and maybe you can could be on to something

L0tt0 is a really great platform if you've already registered your account on it then you may continue to explore different areas of the platform and play the available games. Like Bitmover, I also suggest you to start with low amount bets and when you get familiar with the available games then you may increase the bet amount.

Second review was made by me, and I think I was the first one to do it 
I had to be real with my review and I didnt give full five stars perfect score so that dewez would have more motivation to continue improving things.
I like coinbets website and I am going to add few more reviews for new casinos I started using recently.

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