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1. Post 66591801 (unedited backup) (by Cyber_warrior) (scraped on Tue Apr 7 18:40:37 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 08:29:12 AM
Have you tried to access the tournament using the direct link?

https://bitz.io/player/desktop/tournaments/3929

I missed the tournament as well, but could find it using this link
Thank you for the link, I think I got it all figured out now. At first I didn't know selecting USD as preferred currency would let me participate. And I thought after loading the tournament it will redirect me to the games section itself.

What do you mean you missed the tournament? It's still ongoing and we got about 6 days to go or am I wrong?

Quote from: Pmalek on Today at 08:41:08 AM
What exactly is happening on your end? Don't the games load? Are you getting an error message on your screen, and if so, what does it say?
Have you ticked the "Show crypto fiat" option under the dropdown menu in your wallet under the balances? I remember that I couldn't load the sportsbook in the past until I did that. It always displayed an error on-screen.
I just did that and everything is working fine now, the games are loading perfectly now. I already joined the tournament and started participating already. Thank you



2. Post 66591326 (unedited backup) (by DYING_S0UL) (scraped on Tue Apr 7 16:29:01 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 08:29:12 AM

I want to participate in the lastest tournament but I am not able to play any of the 3 games despite making my SATs my preferred currency. I don't know what I am doing wrong, pls someone should help out how I can go about it.

Have you tried to access the tournament using the direct link?

https://bitz.io/player/desktop/tournaments/3929

I missed the tournament as well, but could find it using this link

Has it ended already?

I'm getting a "Sorry  This tournament is not available" message, and there are no other info on this page.

I'm not logged in or anything btw, just visited it through private mode.



3. Post 66590182 (unedited backup) (by hero_the_bossman) (scraped on Tue Apr 7 09:26:25 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: iv4n on Today at 05:38:59 AM
I think i will stop for now and see if I still win 26 usd in the end Smiley

Good luck. This looks like a nice promotion, but we can play only 3 games:

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The tournament includes 3 games: Plinko 2 (BGaming), Mines (InOut), Rock Paper Scissors (InOut).

I just found out that I can't play InOut, country restrictions... But I will try Plinko 2, which is a new game for me.

Good luck to all participants.

Share your thoughts on it later!



4. Post 66589909 (unedited backup) (by iv4n) (scraped on Tue Apr 7 07:39:01 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: bitmover on April 06, 2026, 09:12:20 PM
I think i will stop for now and see if I still win 26 usd in the end Smiley

Good luck. This looks like a nice promotion, but we can play only 3 games:

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The tournament includes 3 games: Plinko 2 (BGaming), Mines (InOut), Rock Paper Scissors (InOut).

I just found out that I can't play InOut, country restrictions... But I will try Plinko 2, which is a new game for me.

Good luck to all participants.



5. Post 66588940 (unedited backup) (by KycNotList) (scraped on Mon Apr 6 22:31:49 CEST 2026) in [ANN] KycNotList.com — No KYC / No AML Crypto Exchange Monitor 🔎:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 06:31:18 PM
Good work.

I am missing splash.tf exchange

You might want to take a look. They look a very good service as well, they have their own liquidity.

They also have an ann here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5549370.new#new

Thank you so much 🙏 We’ll definitely reach out to splash.tf, and if they’re technically able to provide an exchange rate API, we’ll definitely consider adding this exchange to our list.

Quote from: dkbit98 on Today at 06:44:38 PM
I see we can suggest and add exchanges that are not yet listed on your website.
Can you tell us more what is procedure for that and how long do we need to wait for listing to be approved?
I already saw there are some rules for listing, but is there anything else not written there?
https://kycnotlist.com/en/rules

All application guidelines are currently available at the following link: https://kycnotlist.com/en/rules
There are no hidden rules. We review applications within 1–3 days, which includes reviewing feedback from other platforms, verifying the course file, and conducting test swaps.



6. Post 66588500 (unedited backup) (by lodocus) (scraped on Mon Apr 6 20:17:55 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 04:58:59 PM
Hey  Bitz_Casino. You forgot to add the link with the instructions to the tournament

I changed my currency to sats and couldn't find any tournament or information about it

Here it is!

https://bitz.io/player/desktop/tournaments/3929



By the way, I’ve participated in the competition a little bit myself. Right now, you can see my name in 6th place on the leaderboard. Since there’s still about a week left until the event ends, I didn’t spend much time on it today, but I think I’ll participate more if I have enough SATS toward the end of the event and the conditions are right.

It’s just that the games offered aren’t really my thing. I don’t have much of a knack for games like Mines and Plinko, and I feel like if I try them more, I’ll end up losing a lot of SATS.

I think the best approach in a competition like this is to wait until the final hours and see how things unfold. A week is a long time, and I don’t want to risk my SATS for nothing.



7. Post 66588461 (unedited backup) (by KycNotList) (scraped on Mon Apr 6 20:05:13 CEST 2026) in [ANN] KycNotList.com — No KYC / No AML Crypto Exchange Monitor 🔎:

Quote from: mikel_012 on April 03, 2026, 11:58:05 PM
How quick is the rate updated?

I tested and SageSwap was wrong for BTC to MONERO

Your website showed a much lower rate compared to what I see on the website Huh
We conducted an investigation and found that they offer two types of exchange:
1) Swap
2) Aml swap
Currently, their API provides the rate for a standard swap, but they said they will release a separate API that accounts for fees in the coming days Aml swap

Quote from: bitmover on April 04, 2026, 01:01:52 AM

I see a much different rate as well.

maybe the website uses some kind of cache and the value is not updated? which is a problem for a service like that.

I think ideally there should be at most 1-2min delay, at the most 5minutes.

For now, I see 1 = 66900 in B1exch and 66200 in kycnotlist.com, which is a huge difference.

The website is a good initiative, congrats on your idea. But need to fix this.
This error was caused by the B1exch API. We notified them, and they have fixed it; the exchange rate is now correct.


==========================

Thank you for the information. Going forward, we will pay closer attention to this matter and verify the exchange rates of all currency exchange services to ensure they reflect the actual rate, taking into account the exchange service’s commission.

Within two days, we will update all exchange rates, and if the exchanges fail to correct the errors, we will remove them from the list.



8. Post 66587993 (unedited backup) (by Forsyth Jones) (scraped on Mon Apr 6 17:58:55 CEST 2026) in [Guia] Como criar seu endereço Bitcoin personalizado (vanitygen) – passo a passo:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 03:51:05 PM
Assim, confesso que até hoje nunca armazenei grandes quantias nesses endereços, apesar de não ter receio quanto à segurança do vanitygen, mas é que eu uso eles mais "pra bonito mesmo", para receber algum prêmio ou movimentar pequenas quantias aqui no fórum mesmo sem a preocupação em ser rastreado por isso.

Nao sao seguros.

Voce pode guardar alguma quantia neles, mas nada que mude sua vida se voce perder.

Seguro mesmo so hardware wallet, ou entao uma chave gerada num dispositivo off-line se voce realmente tiver muito conhecimento. Lembrando que ate devs do bitcoin core ja foram hackeados  confiando na sua capacidade técnica.
Eu já tive um endereço vanitygen, mas já perdi a chave e não uso mais, esses dias eu cheguei a procurar pela chave, mas não encontrei, não perdi nada, pois eu perdi a chave depois.

Eu só fiz com endereço legacy em um site online, nunca fiz com segwit.

Tenho curiosidade de baixar e fazer isso por conta própria um dia.



9. Post 66587767 (unedited backup) (by Oshosondy) (scraped on Mon Apr 6 17:00:37 CEST 2026) in 7% interest on exchanges can make you do KYC:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 02:38:30 PM
Exchanges are becoming similar to banks.

They want to make the custody of your bitcoin. Kyc is important in this situation, wven for your own security.
With the way many people leave their coins on exchanges, I will say the exchanges are just like banks. Many people can not even differentiate between noncustodial wallet and exchanges.

Quote from: Yamane_Keto on Today at 02:45:13 PM
Previously, they gave $25 upon identity verification; now you need to complete identity verification and deposit $2,500 to receive $0.49 daily.
It represents waiting 52 days to get $25 some might try it, but it would be a huge risk if the platform is unknown, as it would be similar to a pyramid scheme.
I think it is not a pyramidal scheme because it is one of the reputable exchanges which makes me think it is not a pyramidal scheme. It is very possible that they earn the money directly from the stable coins. I am not absolute sure because any exchanges may also disappoint but it is a reputable exchange though.



10. Post 66584383 (unedited backup) (by sergiorus) (scraped on Sun Apr 5 17:43:43 CEST 2026) in Tether seeks USDT settlement on Bitcoin blockchain BUT we already had OMNI??:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 11:03:19 AM
One interesting point: There is literally zero USDT in BNB chain.So, all USDT in BSC are not issued by tether, but issued by Binance as a "pegged USDT".
yep, same is true for all L2s and many L1s, they all have USDT but it's usually bridged sometimes canonically sometimes not.

USDC afaik forced chains to mark non-native USDC as smth like "bridgedUSDC", "axlUSDC" (as bridged via Axelar) and so on.

imho the signal is clear neither Tether nor Circle will ever deal with most of those "chains" and seems like slowly halting their operations on most currently supported chains as well.

not long until it's just Bitcoin's settlement, Ethereum and maybe Tron left for the main stablecoins.



11. Post 66583897 (unedited backup) (by Lafu) (scraped on Sun Apr 5 14:29:38 CEST 2026) in Die Default Trust wurde geändert ! :

thymos hat wieder das Update zur Default Trust rausgebracht vor ein paar Tagen für April !
Es waren hier wieder 103 Benutzer dafür berechtigt !

Originial Beitrag von theymos : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5117330.msg66574451#msg66574451

Alte Default Trust 1 Liste :
Code:
theymos
gmaxwell
OgNasty
vapourminer
mprep
Foxpup
philipma1957
babo
Welsh
d5000
joker_josue
Pmalek
albon
wwzsocki
Timelord2067
jeremypwr
gbianchi
EFS
Swordsoffreedom
hybridsole
stompix
hilariousandco
willi9974
cryptodevil
JayJuanGee
NeuroticFish
achow101
DaveF
examplens
nutildah
irfan_pak10
yahoo62278
bitbollo
zazarb
pooya87
LFC_Bitcoin
mocacinno
Real-Duke
klarki
LoyceV
The Sceptical Chymist
SFR10
TryNinja
Jet Cash
holydarkness
Lafu
tweetious
AakZaki
giammangiato
buwaytress
crwth
Vispilio
hosemary
krogothmanhattan
JollyGood
RaltcoinsB
igebotz
El duderino_
KTChampions
Trofo
icopress
sheenshane
JeromeTash
logfiles
Bitcoin_Arena
GazetaBitcoin
tvplus006
mole0815
bitmover
DdmrDdmr
anonymousminer
Lakai01
Bthd
fillippone
cryptofrka
abhiseshakana
The Cryptovator
lovesmayfamilis
DireWolfM14
notblox1
YOSHIE
inspace
Awaklara
geophphreigh
zasad@
Rikafip
Etranger
NotATether
Stalker22
bullrun2024bro
BlackHatCoiner
Charles-Tim
Lillominato89
Free Market Capitalist
paid2
n0nce
YodasRedRocket
PowerGlove
God Of Thunder
apogio

Neue Default Trust 1 Liste :
Code:
theymos
HostFat
gmaxwell
OgNasty
Vod
vapourminer
Foxpup
philipma1957
babo
Cyrus
Welsh
ibminer
d5000
Pmalek
Mitchell
albon
wwzsocki
jeremypwr
gbianchi
EFS
hybridsole
stompix
hilariousandco
buckrogers
Buchi-88
Lesbian Cow
willi9974
NeuroticFish
achow101
DaveF
examplens
nutildah
irfan_pak10
yahoo62278
bitbollo
LFC_Bitcoin
Real-Duke
klarki
LoyceV
The Sceptical Chymist
SFR10
TryNinja
BitcoinGirl.Club
holydarkness
Lafu
tweetious
AakZaki
giammangiato
buwaytress
crwth
Ale88
Vispilio
hosemary
krogothmanhattan
JollyGood
RaltcoinsB
igebotz
hugeblack
El duderino_
KTChampions
Trofo
icopress
sheenshane
JeromeTash
logfiles
Bitcoin_Arena
GazetaBitcoin
tvplus006
mole0815
bitmover
DdmrDdmr
shahzadafzal
anonymousminer
Lakai01
Husna QA
fillippone
cryptofrka
abhiseshakana
The Cryptovator
lovesmayfamilis
DireWolfM14
notblox1
Little Mouse
YOSHIE
inspace
jokers10
Awaklara
geophphreigh
zasad@
Rikafip
Etranger
NotATether
Stalker22
BlackHatCoiner
Charles-Tim
Lillominato89
Free Market Capitalist
YodasRedRocket
PowerGlove
God Of Thunder

Wieder mit am Start hier aus dem Deutschen Bereich sind : Lakai01 , mole0815 , Real-Duke , willi9974 , Buchi-88 , d5000 , und meine wenigkeit !

Hier das genaue Update von LoyceV , Danke dafür !
Quote from: LoyceV on April 02, 2026, 06:09:59 PM
Theymos reshuffled DT1.

Removed:
     1. Global Moderator mprep (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (1731 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. Legendary joker_josue (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (6268 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. Legendary Timelord2067 (Trust: +21 / =15 / -0) (1364 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. Legendary Swordsoffreedom (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (199 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. Legendary cryptodevil (Trust: +10 / =0 / -1) (254 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. Legendary JayJuanGee (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (13184 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. Legendary zazarb (Trust: +32 / =0 / -0) (548 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. Legendary pooya87 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (11278 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. Legendary mocacinno (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (4518 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. Legendary Jet Cash (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (2075 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. Legendary Bthd (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (2608 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. Legendary bullrun2024bro (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (5226 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. Legendary paid2 (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (3763 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. Hero Member n0nce (Trust: neutral) (6057 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. Legendary apogio (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (2394 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Added:
     1. Staff HostFat (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (305 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. Legendary Vod (Trust: +27 / =2 / -0) (2591 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. Administrator Cyrus (Trust: +23 / =0 / -0) (2528 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. Legendary ibminer (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (2602 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. Staff Mitchell (Trust: +47 / =1 / -0) (1916 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. Legendary buckrogers (Trust: +21 / =0 / -0) (195 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. Legendary Buchi-88 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (2318 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. Legendary Lesbian Cow (Trust: +46 / =0 / -0) (757 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. Legendary BitcoinGirl.Club (Trust: +1 / =6 / -1) (1841 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. Legendary Ale88 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (3423 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. Legendary hugeblack (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (4421 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. Copper Member shahzadafzal (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (3193 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. Copper Member Husna QA (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (3357 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. Legendary Little Mouse (Trust: +46 / =1 / -0) (3464 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. Legendary jokers10 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (3937 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)



12. Post 66583783 (unedited backup) (by NeuroticFish) (scraped on Sun Apr 5 13:41:44 CEST 2026) in Restriction laws on mixer.:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 11:24:17 AM
The mixer (and the government) would know where did your bitcoin came from. But when you send the mixer funds to a third party, he wouldn't know where your money came from.

For example, you want to send some money you made on the forum sig campaigns to a person who you don't like to expose your Don Pedro Dinero  identity. You could use that mixer and then send the funds.

I know KYC is contradictory to what mixers stand for, but it would still have some uses.

Interesting point, but then you would dox yourself - which for some is OK and probably for most is a no-go - plus, I would not be surprised if that money would be still marked as "mixed", which, for many exchanges would be a red flag.

So while I agree that it does have its uses, it may need quite a lot more time until such "legally fine" mixers will become a thing.



13. Post 66581508 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Sat Apr 4 19:21:19 CEST 2026) in MicroStrategy Buys $250M in Bitcoin, Calling the Crypto ‘Superior to Cash’:

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 08:25:57 AM
I personally believe that it is better to use long term averages such as the 200-WMA in order to valuate holdings and to make decisions in regards to what to do. Spot prices tend to be all over the place, even though sure, at any particular time if we are buying or selling we are using spot price at that particular moment - yet Saylor/MSTR proclaim that they are never selling (absent getting forced into having to do so), so there can be various ways to valuate holdings and even project forward such valuations.
I don't believe that because that system will always yield a higher return on more volatile assets like Bitcoin, and besides, it's not the standard way to calculate CAGR.

Well?  Maybe I am too invested in such system of using the 200-WMA, which it seems that I had been increasingly gravitating towards using such 200-WMA valuations since around 2020 - and I think my gravitation towards the 200-WMA came before 2020, too.

So then I also built up sustainable withdrawal ideas around such 200-WMA, too.. I think that it is a much better way to valuate a bitcoin stash and to attempt to figure out how to navigate through our bitcoin accumulation phase in order to attempt to get to a target that we might consider to be enough or more than enough bitcoin (on a personal level), so then we might go through our maintenance phase prior to either going into some kind of a sustainable withdrawal in cases where we don't want to deplete our principle or liquidation in the event that we might want to deplete our principle.. and so yeah, we may well want to know the difference between having goals of depleting our principle or not, since systems that do not deplete the principle should be able to be followed perpetually, meaning forever and ever and ever...

I have a thread on sustainable withdrawal that goes over both price based sustainable withdrawal and time-based sustainable withdrawal (and from my perspective, the 200-WMA tends to apply more to the time-based sustainable withdrawal)  and @bitmover collaborated with me to create (and adapt from time to time) our time-based sustainable withdrawal guidelines and tool.

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 08:25:57 AM
When I search on Google, the first result that comes up is the following answer, based on this article:

https://www.bajajfinserv.in/investments/annualised-return
In other words, the way I calculate it.

Sure.  Standard ways of calculating are likely to be more relatable, and perhaps I gravitated towards the 200-WMA because I find it to be more helpful in an attempt to look longer term.. even though the CAGR may well end up performing in similar ways, even though the start date and the end date for measuring will affect the ultimate number and the 200-WMA is constantly rolling using the average trade-weighted BTC price .. which so far has continued to go up..  even though it did get down to as low as 19% (annualized) over the period of our 16-ish months between June 2022 and October 2023 in which the BTC price spent a lot of time at or below the 200-WMA, including spending quite a bit of time in the 30% to 35% below the 200-WMA in early November 2022.

I have some snap shots of 6 month averages of the spot price compared with the 200-WMA on my fuck you status chart (last updated in August 2025).

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 08:25:57 AM
Why would I use such a short time period, when I already pointed out the 200-WMA order to make a longer term proclamation in a way to valuate BTC holdings?  200-day is similar to the 30 Week moving average.. it is way too short to get any meaning, since it is only half of a year.  The 200-WMA is a 4 year weekly average, and Bitcoin has 4 year cycles. Sure we can proclaim that the 4-year cycles has been disappearing or becoming less important, yet at the same time, the longer moving averages make more sense to me.. and likely longer-term moving averages motivate Saylor/MSTR too.
That was a typo on my behalf. I meant 200 WMA. But I take that back; given that the 200-WMA calculation favors more volatile assets or assigns them a higher, fictitious return.

Not completely fictitious since long term actors may well still be comparing the 200-WMA to the BTC spot price in order to determine what to do (or whether to adjust whatever is already being done), and of course, there can also be some advantages in considering a delayed indicator in order to not necessarily act too rashly and to get some long term sense of the matter that can also be helpful in guiding us in terms of whether we might want to stay on course or to adjust what we are doing or planning to do.

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 08:25:57 AM
Huh?  Times have changed. I don't see what is so relevant about 26 years ago.  You are wanting to suggest that they are going to repeat in their same mistakes, but instead with bitcoin this time around?  Sure, it is possible, but we are also dealing with some different current dynamics and a different asset (namely bitcoin) even though we have  lot of conflicting macro factors in current times, including trying to figure out the extent to which bitcoin might be able to stand up - even considering that some of the financial systems being built up around bitcoin are variations of cooptation attacks, whether Saylor/MSTR is an insider or an outsider, there can be various winners and or losers when systems are evolving, and we have some macro level changes that seem to be taking place.
Times haven't changed that much—Saylor jumped on the dot-com bandwagon and now he's jumped on the Bitcoin bandwagon.

I agree that he might have a gambling personality problem.  It surely takes all types to affect what is going on in the world, and whatever level of crazy that he might be doing may or may not work out better this time for him (and for the rest of us, too, to the extent that his behaviors have affects on the overall bitcoin market and/or those folks interacting around his various bitcoin derivative products).

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 08:25:57 AM
If you add to that the fact that he had to restate his financials and pay $8 million to avoid going to jail, it's not unreasonable to think he's being a bit creative when he pitches the numbers on his preferred stocks, like STRC.

Sure.  Rich people can get away with quite a lot, and it probably helps to have good lawyers and have conduct that is in the ambiguous zone... Even if "jail time" is being threatened, a negotiated agreement can alo reflect that the government might not be completely confident that they are going to be able to prevail on the case, and sure, they might have budgetary considerations too, since it does cost the government to prosecute cases, and sometimes there could be press around certain kinds of cases if it gets to the trial stage which tends to be more public than a settlement agreement.  Outcomes of trials tend to create precedent, and settlement agreements tend to create a lot less precedent... not that governments do not change precedent from time to time too - meaning that they don't always follow precedent.

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 08:25:57 AM
Hard for me to believe that I might be considered as defending Saylor/MSTR here,
Lol
In the meantime, Saylor/MSTR have been (and likely will continue) to get rich in the process with the stacking up of assets (namely bitcoin) using other people's money.
Yes, Saylor for sure, the problem is for the investors.

They are BIG boys and girls, and yeah sure, sometimes adults get tricked.. yet are you wanting to say that there is anything legally actionable about Saylor's/MSTR's behaviors.  I am inclined to notice that you seem to be getting more and More and MOAR worked up about it.  hahahahahaha.. especially after (or around the time that) you sold whatever MSTR related products (or was it just the stock?) that you were holding (or you were experimenting with?, since you were claiming it was a "small" amount).
 
Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 08:25:57 AM
Or perhaps you are suggesting that Saylor/MSTR have been making material misrepresentations that rise to the level of legally actionable?  
No. I think he must have been advised by his lawyers. And I don't think there is anything actionable right now, but that’s because in these matters, action is only taken when people actually lose money. However, I’m certain that other regulators wouldn’t allow him to pay that 11.5% dividend based on nothing. Saylor has good connections with this administration.

Sure.. Those are reasonable points, since there a variety of factors, and I am not claiming to know all of the areas the law.. Many times bad intentions or deception has to be shown in many legal contexts, even though from time to time, there can be some violations that would be strict liability in which no bad intent is needed to be shown... and so even if he might cross over lines from time to time, there may well need to be a certain extreme level of egregiousness and clarity of a violation for prosecutors to want to pursue anything, and even if investors were to want to bring class action suits, there would need to be some arguable abilities to proclaim likeliness of success or colorable claims - otherwise the attorneys bringing such suits might get accused of bringing frivolous lawsuits, and I imagine that Saylor/Strategy has pretty decent counsel, they are used to defending various lawsuits and they also have likely been proactive in their research since they have been (and continue to be) bringing innovative products.. and even proclaiming that their products are innovative and that there are some unknowns, even though surely sometimes Saylor is a bit outrageous in his bitcoin claims (even contradictory, sometimes), so maybe he can claim bitcoin is going to perform stupendously,** while at the same time, not to necessarily proclaiming anything about his products, so then his products are inferred to be connected, but still not guaranteed.

**It maybe goes without saying (even though I am going to say it) that there is a difference (in legal culpability) in making claims about the expected performance (or non-performance) of a commodity, such as bitcoin, as compared to making claims about expected performance of products that he is offering.
 
Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 08:25:57 AM
Their average price is around $75,694 if I'm not mistaken
And 30% increase is just $98,402
So I believe it's higher than 30% if it was above $100K.
When the price of Bitcoin was in the low 100,000s, Strategy wasn't even close to achieving a 30% return on the Bitcoin it had purchased through its reverse DCA strategy.

Yeah but who cares?  He can proclaim what he expects bitcoin to do on average over a long period of time, and bitcoin may or may not do that. So what?  Also, we know that the claim is not even about every year, it is about over a long period of time, and he does not even need to be correct.  People are dumb if they consider Saylor's expectations as guarantees, even if we average out the next 4-6 years and we still see CAGRs way below 30% (what if they are only 3% over the next 6 years.. and that would be 1/10th the claimed amount... so what? Saylor is not bound by his claims about what he expects a commodity, such as bitcoin, to do.).
 
Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 08:25:57 AM
I agree that in the last 5 years bitcoin performance is very poor, specially compared to sp500 and gold
But if you take a look at 10years, you will find a very different performance.
And if we compare Bitcoin’s 17-year history, it still comes out better. What I'm focusing on here is the trend.

So far, Bitcoin's upward price trajectory is less and less and less. I personally don't like to start to measure the bigger impact price performance matters of bitcoin until January 2012.. January 1, 2012 seems like a more or less nice starting date with the 200-WMA and the BTC spot price right around $5... Sure, not exactly, but close enough as a starting point.  $5-ish each.

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 08:25:57 AM
But I get your point and I am also thinking about it: maybe bitcoin performance will be worse in the future. Maybe in a few cycle we wont even reach past  cycle ATH.  Imagine that.
What I believe is that Bitcoin has reached a point—as happens with any successful asset—where, having reached a high price and a large market cap, its returns have started to level off.

If you think that bitcoin is mature or even close to mature, you are likely to be wrong.... even though you are free to believe whatever you like.   Tongue Tongue

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 08:25:57 AM
So, I don’t think that from now on we’re going to have nothing but bad cycles for Bitcoin, but it is perfectly possible that we’re in for one or two crappy cycles, followed by a good cycle, and maybe another really good one.

It is true that we have a lot of BIGGER players chiming into the bitcoin battle.. and either trying to break it, tame it or coopt it... so yeah, these current battles can result in uncertainties.. Maybe the bullshit happening in Iran is indirectly related to bitcoin, too?
 
Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 08:25:57 AM
But for those of us who hold Bitcoin and manage it using our private keys, this won’t affect us as much as it will someone who has based his products on a specific rate of return for the next 20 years. And in the early years—when the prediction is supposed to hold true the most—at the upper end of the return range (50% according to Saylor), we see a significant gap between the forecast and the actual return.

What you seem to be implying here seems to be part of the battle in regards to the various paper products that are both corrupting bitcoin prices, yet seem to be inevitably part of any attempt to transition bitcoin or to increase various aspects of its adoption, even though various aspect of the various paper bitcoin products undermine quite a few aspect of what bring power to bitcoin.. .. and at the same time, the various powers that be likely want the powers (and features) of bitcoin for themselves, but they don't want the normies to be able to benefit from self-sovereignty, privacy in transactions and/or any of the various benefits that remain potentials that can come through bitcoin...

The various battles and volatility seem close to inevitable to the extent that internal battles with developers, node runners and miners might also play into the mix whether there is chiming in by governments, financial institutions, or status quo rich folks (and nouveau richie bitcoin folks, too).



14. Post 66580657 (unedited backup) (by LoyceV) (scraped on Sat Apr 4 14:53:02 CEST 2026) in Complete overview of users on DT1 and DT2 and their ratings:

Update:
DT 1
     1. 35: theymos (Trust: +32 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (57) 14355 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 203: HostFat (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (0) 305 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 11425: gmaxwell (Trust: +13 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (14) 9491 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 30747: Vod (Trust: +28 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (5) 2591 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 33156: vapourminer (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 4876 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 55384: Foxpup (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (13) 2768 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 64507: philipma1957 (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 10682 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 65636: babo (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 4584 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 78147: Cyrus (Trust: +24 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (19) 2528 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 84521: Welsh (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (19) 3403 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 84866: ibminer (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 2602 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. 85033: d5000 (Trust:  neutral) (DT1! (2) 9484 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. 112493: Pmalek (Trust:  neutral) (DT1! (1) 8574 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. 113670: Mitchell (Trust: +47 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (20) 1916 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. 123824: albon (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 1846 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. 131333: wwzsocki (Trust: +15 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (1) 1519 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. 137185: jeremypwr (Trust: +59 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (17) 6189 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. 140582: gbianchi (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 2456 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. 140584: EFS (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2047 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. 158444: hybridsole (Trust: +19 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 480 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. 164749: stompix (Trust:  neutral) (DT1! (11) 6511 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. 164822: hilariousandco (Trust: +30 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (30) 1879 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. 189967: buckrogers (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 195 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. 204821: Buchi-88 (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 2318 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. 206143: Lesbian Cow (Trust: +47 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 757 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. 216582: willi9974 (Trust: +48 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2899 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    27. 257071: NeuroticFish (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 6119 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    28. 290195: achow101 (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 6676 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    29. 300014: DaveF (Trust: +32 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (19) 6698 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    30. 314792: examplens (Trust: +8 / =5 / -0) (DT1! (26) 3543 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    31. 317618: nutildah (Trust: +22 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (32) 9709 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    32. 350580: irfan_pak10 (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (3) 711 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    33. 355846: yahoo62278 (Trust: +38 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (23) 4270 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    34. 364070: bitbollo (Trust: +18 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 3573 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    35. 379487: LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (19) 11668 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    36. 405482: Real-Duke (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 2651 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    37. 407174: klarki (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (2) 4411 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    38. 459836: LoyceV (Trust: +33 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (61) 20477 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    39. 487418: The Sceptical Chymist (Trust: +31 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (30) 6313 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    40. 521899: SFR10 (Trust: +17 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 2994 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    41. 557798: TryNinja (Trust: +13 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (9) 9428 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    42. 754818: holydarkness (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 1363 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    43. 805820: Lafu (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (13) 4001 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    44. 830967: tweetious (Trust: +34 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 449 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    45. 839568: AakZaki (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1624 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    46. 889300: giammangiato (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1488 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    47. 901859: buwaytress (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 3683 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    48. 914465: crwth (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (2) 1145 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    49. 932931: Ale88 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 3423 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    50. 995810: hosemary (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 6624 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    51. 1000199: krogothmanhattan (Trust: +94 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (17) 4161 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    52. 1016855: JollyGood (Trust: +21 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (16) 1873 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    53. 1045971: igebotz (Trust: +17 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 2223 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    54. 1059082: hugeblack (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 4421 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    55. 1067333: El duderino_ (Trust: +26 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (13) 15286 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    56. 1097370: KTChampions (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 2210 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    57. 1099980: Trofo (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 3273 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    58. 1137579: icopress (Trust: +82 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (35) 12074 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    59. 1179651: sheenshane (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (1) 1171 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    60. 1190631: JeromeTash (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 1376 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    61. 1247226: logfiles (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2246 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    62. 1269497: Bitcoin_Arena (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 2036 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    63. 1285797: GazetaBitcoin (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (18) 9528 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    64. 1311641: tvplus006 (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (14) 2497 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    65. 1424178: mole0815 (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 3399 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    66. 1554927: bitmover (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 7356 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    67. 1582324: DdmrDdmr (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 11286 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    68. 1634314: shahzadafzal (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 3193 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    69. 1668017: anonymousminer (Trust: +42 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 1412 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    70. 1724800: Lakai01 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 4004 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    71. 1827294: Husna QA (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 3357 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    72. 1852120: fillippone (Trust: +14 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (23) 20185 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    73. 1862043: cryptofrka (Trust: +18 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2554 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    74. 1878246: abhiseshakana (Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (1) 2473 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    75. 1980983: The Cryptovator (Trust: +20 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (19) 2529 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    76. 1982152: lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +30 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (30) 5496 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    77. 2003859: DireWolfM14 (Trust: +20 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (22) 5581 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    78. 2015418: notblox1 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 1539 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    79. 2344286: Little Mouse (Trust: +48 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (13) 3464 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    80. 2363935: YOSHIE (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (18) 1889 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    81. 2477002: inspace (Trust: +5 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1248 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    82. 2497429: jokers10 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 3937 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    83. 2519096: Awaklara (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 823 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    84. 2652924: geophphreigh (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 1143 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    85. 2654005: zasad@ (Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (7) 5510 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    86. 2658890: Rikafip (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (25) 7815 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    87. 2709122: Etranger (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1862 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    88. 2739424: NotATether (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (10) 9590 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    89. 2739454: Stalker22 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1549 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    90. 2775483: BlackHatCoiner (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 9571 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    91. 2776678: Charles-Tim (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 6280 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    92. 2796662: Lillominato89 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1240 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    93. 2836461: Free Market Capitalist (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (6) 3295 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    94. 3442614: YodasRedRocket (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 647 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    95. 3486361: PowerGlove (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 6987 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)

DT 2
     1. 3: satoshi (Trust: +45 / =0 / -0) (8438 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 4: sirius (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (884 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 1268: nanotube (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 2252: laanwj (Trust:  neutral) (44 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 2676: casascius (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (191 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 2759: midnightmagic (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (27 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 2786: Pieter Wuille (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (198 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 3318: Luke-Jr (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (201 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 3380: Vladimir (Trust:  neutral) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 3420: dooglus (Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (335 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 4171: Raize (Trust:  neutral) (24 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. 6347: Maged (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (17 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. 6447: forrestv (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (143 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. 7351: EPiSKiNG (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. 10354: JJG (Trust:  neutral) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. 10502: SgtSpike (Trust:  neutral) (5 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)



15. Post 66580320 (unedited backup) (by fillippone) (scraped on Sat Apr 4 12:32:19 CEST 2026) in [Meta] Andamento sezione italiana:

Quote from: babo on Today at 08:10:48 AM
Quote from: Theymos DT update [thread]
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babo (CONFIRMED)
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16. Post 66579994 (unedited backup) (by babo) (scraped on Sat Apr 4 10:10:49 CEST 2026) in [Meta] Andamento sezione italiana:

Quote from: Theymos DT update [thread]
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ibminer
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Pmalek (CONFIRMED)
Mitchell
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gbianchi (CONFIRMED)
EFS (CONFIRMED)
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buckrogers
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Lesbian Cow
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nutildah (CONFIRMED)
irfan_pak10 (CONFIRMED)
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LFC_Bitcoin (CONFIRMED)
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klarki (CONFIRMED)
LoyceV (CONFIRMED)
The Sceptical Chymist (CONFIRMED)
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TryNinja (CONFIRMED)
BitcoinGirl.Club
holydarkness (CONFIRMED)
Lafu (CONFIRMED)
tweetious (CONFIRMED)
AakZaki (CONFIRMED)
giammangiato (CONFIRMED)
buwaytress (CONFIRMED)
crwth (CONFIRMED)
Ale88
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igebotz (CONFIRMED)
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El duderino_ (CONFIRMED)
KTChampions (CONFIRMED)
Trofo (CONFIRMED)
icopress (CONFIRMED)
sheenshane (CONFIRMED)
JeromeTash (CONFIRMED)
logfiles (CONFIRMED)
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GazetaBitcoin (CONFIRMED)
tvplus006 (CONFIRMED)
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bitmover (CONFIRMED)
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shahzadafzal
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Husna QA
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. . . . Lista Utenti Italiani:

USER.............DT....DT.March 2026.BPIPNinjastic
Ale88
(DT)
no
arulbero
no
babo
(DT)
SI
coinlocket$
no
fillippone
(DT)
SI
gbianchi
(DT)
SI
bastisisca
no
bitbollo
(DT)
SI
giammangiato
(DT)
SI
mendace
no
mars78
no
simpic
no
Lillominato89
(DT)
SI


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17. Post 66579977 (unedited backup) (by LoyceV) (scraped on Sat Apr 4 10:03:49 CEST 2026) in LoyceV's Merit data analysis (full data since Jan. 24, 2018; not just 120 days):

Weekly update (2026-03-27_Fri_05.18h)


theymos' raw data (format: time    amount    msg    user_from    user_to)
Sample
Code:
1774578654 1 5578399.msg66548838 901661 889300
1774578579 2 5514805.msg66549858 1166480 3622399
1774577129 1 5578327.msg66548021 950662 3735576
1774576245 1 178336.msg66550804 533727 252510
1774576227 4 5566387.msg66550811 317618 2434463
1774576084 1 178336.msg66550869 18321 120694
1774575268 1 178336.msg66550370 120694 252510
1774573981 2 5475347.msg66548700 1554927 252510
1774573837 4 5578280.msg66550858 1059082 1554927
1774573792 1 5578280.msg66550832 1554927 1059082
1774573378 2 5573413.msg66368941 1059082 3744691
1774573364 2 5578280.msg66541855 1554927 112493
1774572982 2 5577765.msg66549021 1059082 1068464
1774572978 6 5577765.msg66549177 1059082 123824
1774572951 6 5577765.msg66523699 1059082 123824
1774572928 2 5577765.msg66523377 1059082 123824
1774572900 2 5578299.msg66547996 1059082 914465
1774572882 1 5576534.msg66544937 1059082 3751662
1774572833 4 5576534.msg66490361 1059082 3725649
1774572818 2 5578256.msg66545769 1059082 3751516
1774572731 4 5578431.msg66547346 1059082 1298138
1774572533 4 5578174.msg66539244 1059082 123824
1774572517 5 5578174.msg66537996 1059082 516434
1774572372 1 5578280.msg66549229 1059082 1554927
1774571901 8 5578280.msg66541855 1059082 112493
1774571894 4 5578280.msg66548794 1059082 912328
1774571792 4 5578319.msg66550766 1059082 1012655
1774571635 4 5566387.msg66550811 1059082 2434463
1774571175 5 5575676.msg66452637 3729918 3363284
1774571106 2 5399898.msg66318922 3483703 3734294
1774571071 3 5570425.msg66252065 3483703 3734294
1774570930 1 5567112.msg66544681 3332377 3467714
1774570582 1 5578453.msg66548022 1269701 819270
1774570543 1 5578327.msg66548021 1269701 3735576
1774570459 1 301480.msg66550158 1593137 783422
1774570407 1 5526863.msg66549821 1593137 991374
1774570217 2 5578508.msg66550093 2762272 1137579
1774570117 1 5220832.msg66547540 839568 3706783
1774570110 2 5573204.msg66548211 1059082 1170966
1774570100 1 5573204.msg66550613 1059082 1170966
1774569816 1 5578497.msg66549619 1593137 3717645
1774569654 1 3278616.msg66550751 2716227 113670
1774567659 1 5578427.msg66547097 18321 375981
1774567629 1 301480.msg66550158 1593137 783422
1774567486 1 5578511.msg66550198 1247226 3577653
1774567438 1 5552058.msg65636838 18321 375981
1774567437 1 5552058.msg65638090 18321 359716
1774567436 1 5552058.msg65640117 18321 52782
1774567435 1 5552058.msg65690945 18321 106523
1774566487 1 5578350.msg66544882 1021018 3519361
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1516833930 7 2228.msg29479 135920 3
1516833833 1 178336.msg28855702 479624 1130992
1516833813 1 2817737.msg28849540 1001644 990403
1516833798 21 5.msg28 520313 3
1516833796 1 2808926.msg28728384 140584 35
1516833779 1 178336.msg28853916 479624 33156
1516833756 20 2482937.msg25417254 101872 135920
1516833713 21 5.msg28 169515 3
1516833686 1 2818179.msg28855276 994466 1196028
1516833610 49 1545652.msg15536651 206143 520313
1516833593 1 2818066.msg28855136 260067 520313
1516833592 2 2806168.msg28855427 520313 355846
1516833591 49 1545652.msg15536651 881377 520313
1516833523 1 2818066.msg28855343 539826 340795
1516833521 1 2818066.msg28855136 514126 520313
1516833478 1 2818066.msg28855136 482980 520313
1516833460 1 2818066.msg28854596 93844 520313
1516833451 1 2816214.msg28845827 1083353 1520388
1516833430 50 178608.msg28854963 884600 520313
1516833349 1 178336.msg28852898 479624 1521711
1516833346 1 2812863.msg28785611 303315 1707287
1516833329 1 2818066.msg28854596 206143 520313
1516833326 1 178336.msg28852768 479624 181806
1516833304 1 2818066.msg28853325 340795 877396
1516833289 1 2716104.msg28846824 1239985 1739247
1516833281 1 2818066.msg28853686 206143 136484
1516833252 1 2816647.msg28837916 169515 1701092
1516833251 1 178336.msg28849600 479624 172400
1516833237 1 2677441.msg28778318 123412 1090430
1516833230 1 2814078.msg28796083 520313 881377
1516833207 1 2772292.msg28837085 1189487 1028592
1516833203 1 2818066.msg28855136 101872 520313
1516833199 1 2818066.msg28853325 926641 877396
1516833148 1 2808926.msg28793321 78147 35
1516833148 1 2634042.msg28672219 123412 1094601
1516833111 1 2818066.msg28855136 535215 520313
1516833078 45 2813828.msg28801076 135920 101872
1516833070 1 2818066.msg28855136 881377 520313
1516833049 1 2677441.msg28848945 88254 903139
1516833048 1 2818066.msg28855136 101872 520313
1516833044 5 2818066.msg28855019 135920 688810
1516833001 5 2813828.msg28801076 135920 101872
1516832978 1 2384335.msg28854772 1344962 1101839
1516832969 1 2818066.msg28855136 881564 520313
1516832953 1 2818066.msg28854621 520313 101872
1516832934 1 2818066.msg28855136 877396 520313
1516832874 1 178608.msg28792130 884600 35
1516832842 5 2818066.msg28853325 688810 877396
1516832833 2 178336.msg28852079 479624 1257516
1516831941 1 2818066.msg28853325 35 877396
Full list* (55 MB) (not limited to 120 days, 2394 Merit transactions added since my previous update).

theymos' data (human readable format, including usernames and post titles)
Sample
On Fri 27 Mar 2026 03:30:54 AM CET, Darker45 (history) sent 1 Merit to giammangiato (history) for Re: Have you ever been discouraged on your bet, and it later turned successful? .
On Fri 27 Mar 2026 03:29:39 AM CET, Julien_Olynpic (history) sent 2 Merit to purple_sparkles (history) for Re: Биткойн соединяет людей..
On Fri 27 Mar 2026 03:05:29 AM CET, julerz12 (history) sent 1 Merit to coinrifft (history) for Re: Kapag Pumalya ang Self-Custody: Mga Totoong Kaso at Aral.
On Fri 27 Mar 2026 02:50:45 AM CET, Hottiek (history) sent 1 Merit to JayJuanGee (history) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion.
On Fri 27 Mar 2026 02:50:27 AM CET, nutildah (history) sent 4 Merit to FinneysTrueVision (history) for Re: Three heroes and a legend are cheaters..
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On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:28:54 PM CET, AdolfinWolf (history) sent 1 Merit to Lutpin (history) for Re: What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:54 PM CET, Dahman El_Harrachi (history) sent 1 Merit to theymos (history) for Re: Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?).
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:22 PM CET, Tyrantt (history) sent 5 Merit to AdolfinWolf (history) for What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:27:13 PM CET, Last of the V8s (history) sent 2 Merit to Rosewater Foundation (history) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion.
On Wed 24 Jan 2018 11:12:21 PM CET, theymos (history) sent 1 Merit to AdolfinWolf (history) for What is the function of the "Merit" score?.
Full list (584 MB)

Usernames to go with theymos' data
Sample
0: deMerit (Bitcoin Forum) (history) earned: 0 Merit.
3: satoshi (history) earned: 8438 Merit.
4: sirius (history) earned: 884 Merit.
10: Xunie (history) earned: 1 Merit.
11: madhatter (history) earned: 5 Merit.
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3751306: broccolo9 (history) earned: 1 Merit.
3751426: REAleksij (history) earned: 3 Merit.
3751510: mike.io (history) earned: 1 Merit.
3751516: IgnotusNemo (history) earned: 3 Merit.
3751662: GFOXOG (history) earned: 1 Merit.
Full list* (10 MB)

Usernames machine readable
Sample
Code:
0: deMerit (Bitcoin Forum)
3: satoshi
4: sirius
10: Xunie
11: madhatter
12: nanaimogold
13: SmokeTooMuch
14: The Madhatter
21: AgoraMutual
23: 1 currency now
24: dwdollar
26: NewLibertyStandard
27: riX
28: Sabunir
29: giik
30: BitcoinFX
31: Suggester
33: m0mchil
34: BlueSky
35: theymos
37: soultcer
40: xc
42: ec
49: Cdecker
51: DannyM
97: dsg
101: Goldstein
143: laszlo
145: ducki2p
146: Brandon
163: Karmicads
182: Derrick
183: hugolp
198: allinvain
203: HostFat
206: teppy
217: SirArthur
224: Gavin Andresen
237: lachesis
241: QuantumMechanic
244: nixoid
251: wobber
262: chaord
267: virtualcoin
269: Bitcoiner
270: llama
271: Timo Y
274: limikael
284: joey.rich
288: Stone Man
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3747712: Mr intelligence
3747726: Spicoli
3747820: statumx
3747822: Amaro958
3747833: Chifather247
3747903: needsumhelp
3747917: billy.grabow
3747918: btchelp.io
3748112: ranswar
3748386: martschlo
3748434: alkalineph13
3748444: Skizakas
3748484: GemUtxo
3748490: luthen
3748492: CryptoLogixBot
3748579: Der_Gegenwert
3748655: deX001
3748702: Batractoxin
3748768: ghoulMAX
3748978: Meggie Leen
3749023: JetSeason
3749052: cezar1
3749110: PocketAurora
3749153: yowbow
3749316: Carl_DKJ
3749438: Zagal
3749590: Rex1971
3749597: Allicedreim123
3749642: Julienbxl
3749650: Wexler3K
3749790: Strixc2
3749819: Jzbond65
3749913: BowClawblaw
3749923: BobClawblaw
3749937: ostap1706
3749956: funinfo
3750034: (BTC)
3750208: BambooSynergy
3750258: burnchat
3750567: freddy_mujik
3750739: Aventas
3750779: Bitsolo.me
3751038: sats2usd
3751069: katzamit99
3751114: Cassius55
3751306: broccolo9
3751426: REAleksij
3751510: mike.io
3751516: IgnotusNemo
3751662: GFOXOG
Full list (2 MB)

UserIDs, sent Merit and earned Merit machine readable
Sample
Code:
0:569:0
3:0:8438
4:0:884
10:0:1
11:0:5
12:0:1
13:3:76
14:0:11
21:0:2
23:0:1
24:0:9
26:0:19
27:0:54
28:0:13
29:0:4
30:380:800
31:0:1
33:0:27
34:0:4
35:14338:14355
37:0:6
40:0:4
42:0:69
49:0:5
51:0:2
97:0:2
101:0:2
143:0:2483
145:0:1
146:0:4
163:0:21
182:1:0
183:9:1
198:2:83
203:68:305
206:0:14
217:3:36
224:0:1484
237:0:5
241:0:9
244:0:1
251:0:1
262:0:1
267:0:2
269:0:1
270:0:52
271:0:1
274:0:42
284:0:6
288:0:10
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3747712:0:1
3747726:0:1
3747820:0:3
3747822:0:13
3747833:0:2
3747903:0:1
3747917:0:2
3747918:0:1
3748112:0:1
3748386:0:3
3748434:0:1
3748444:0:1
3748484:0:16
3748490:0:7
3748492:0:1
3748579:0:2
3748655:0:1
3748702:0:1
3748768:0:1
3748978:0:4
3749023:0:1
3749052:0:2
3749110:0:3
3749153:0:1
3749316:0:1
3749438:0:3
3749590:0:9
3749597:0:7
3749642:0:1
3749650:0:3
3749790:0:1
3749819:0:1
3749913:0:2
3749923:0:4
3749937:0:1
3749956:0:1
3750034:6:15
3750208:0:1
3750258:0:1
3750567:0:1
3750739:0:2
3750779:0:1
3751038:0:2
3751069:0:1
3751114:0:2
3751306:0:1
3751426:0:3
3751510:0:1
3751516:0:3
3751662:0:1
Full list (1 MB)

Total number of users who received 1 or more Merit: 51150
Sample
Code:
     1. 20477 Merit received by LoyceV (#459836) from 1106 unique users in 11833 transactions
     2. 20185 Merit received by fillippone (#1852120) from 745 unique users in 11071 transactions
     3. 18887 Merit received by o_e_l_e_o (#1188543) from 801 unique users in 9984 transactions
     4. 15286 Merit received by El duderino_ (#1067333) from 478 unique users in 8812 transactions
     5. 14355 Merit received by theymos (#35) from 1223 unique users in 5152 transactions
     6. 13184 Merit received by JayJuanGee (#252510) from 714 unique users in 8774 transactions
     7. 12074 Merit received by icopress (#1137579) from 582 unique users in 4612 transactions
     8. 11957 Merit received by Symmetrick (#2627711) from 773 unique users in 6854 transactions
     9. 11668 Merit received by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) from 490 unique users in 6462 transactions
    10. 11286 Merit received by DdmrDdmr (#1582324) from 653 unique users in 6451 transactions
    11. 11278 Merit received by pooya87 (#379147) from 604 unique users in 6559 transactions
    12. 11043 Merit received by cygan (#27470) from 505 unique users in 5742 transactions
    13. 10682 Merit received by philipma1957 (#64507) from 580 unique users in 6122 transactions
    14. 9936 Merit received by xhomerx10 (#120694) from 330 unique users in 5109 transactions
    15. 9709 Merit received by nutildah (#317618) from 641 unique users in 5272 transactions
    16. 9590 Merit received by NotATether (#2739424) from 527 unique users in 4452 transactions
    17. 9571 Merit received by BlackHatCoiner (#2775483) from 457 unique users in 4779 transactions
    18. 9528 Merit received by GazetaBitcoin (#1285797) from 396 unique users in 3331 transactions
    19. 9491 Merit received by gmaxwell (#11425) from 335 unique users in 3420 transactions
    20. 9484 Merit received by d5000 (#85033) from 437 unique users in 5190 transactions
    21. 9428 Merit received by TryNinja (#557798) from 539 unique users in 4276 transactions
    22. 8871 Merit received by ABCbits (#359716) from 537 unique users in 4798 transactions
    23. 8601 Merit received by dkbit98 (#1410401) from 453 unique users in 5104 transactions
    24. 8574 Merit received by Pmalek (#112493) from 570 unique users in 5057 transactions
    25. 8527 Merit received by suchmoon (#234771) from 573 unique users in 4849 transactions
    26. 8520 Merit received by nc50lc (#1237156) from 403 unique users in 4428 transactions
    27. 8438 Merit received by satoshi (#3) from 407 unique users in 900 transactions
    28. 7815 Merit received by Rikafip (#2658890) from 456 unique users in 4321 transactions
    29. 7569 Merit received by 1miau (#2143453) from 490 unique users in 4117 transactions
    30. 7356 Merit received by bitmover (#1554927) from 581 unique users in 4378 transactions
    31. 7143 Merit received by mikeywith (#2033515) from 404 unique users in 3648 transactions
    32. 6987 Merit received by PowerGlove (#3486361) from 230 unique users in 1795 transactions
    33. 6698 Merit received by DaveF (#300014) from 376 unique users in 3378 transactions
    34. 6676 Merit received by achow101 (#290195) from 276 unique users in 3018 transactions
    35. 6631 Merit received by AlcoHoDL (#998490) from 198 unique users in 3851 transactions
    36. 6624 Merit received by hosemary (#995810) from 387 unique users in 3616 transactions
    37. 6610 Merit received by Hhampuz (#881377) from 940 unique users in 4282 transactions
    38. 6511 Merit received by stompix (#164749) from 482 unique users in 3615 transactions
    39. 6409 Merit received by cAPSLOCK (#35501) from 227 unique users in 3676 transactions
    40. 6313 Merit received by The Sceptical Chymist (#487418) from 625 unique users in 3548 transactions
    41. 6280 Merit received by Charles-Tim (#2776678) from 419 unique users in 3658 transactions
    42. 6278 Merit received by Lucius (#533583) from 525 unique users in 3657 transactions
    43. 6268 Merit received by joker_josue (#97582) from 334 unique users in 2959 transactions
    44. 6189 Merit received by jeremypwr (#137185) from 220 unique users in 3617 transactions
    45. 6188 Merit received by OmegaStarScream (#375981) from 415 unique users in 3392 transactions
    46. 6119 Merit received by NeuroticFish (#257071) from 458 unique users in 3431 transactions
    47. 6057 Merit received by n0nce (#3373858) from 195 unique users in 2634 transactions
    48. 5977 Merit received by Hueristic (#198573) from 204 unique users in 3453 transactions
    49. 5581 Merit received by DireWolfM14 (#2003859) from 387 unique users in 2641 transactions
    50. 5510 Merit received by zasad@ (#2654005) from 415 unique users in 2698 transactions
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 51101. 1 Merit received by 1ceStorm (#2342907) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51102. 1 Merit received by 1ce (#1019784) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51103. 1 Merit received by 1camtron (#1236351) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51104. 1 Merit received by 1apayment (#1855631) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51105. 1 Merit received by 1907KFY (#1935217) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51106. 1 Merit received by 16xypjnxlrew (#2705665) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51107. 1 Merit received by 16tonn (#3560052) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51108. 1 Merit received by 15horses1donkey (#560958) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51109. 1 Merit received by 15519028115Q (#3575647) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51110. 1 Merit received by 15262kk (#291561) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51111. 1 Merit received by 14z4rus (#3669471) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51112. 1 Merit received by 1453ist (#1431126) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51113. 1 Merit received by 1453eko (#1431103) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51114. 1 Merit received by 13Winter13 (#919666) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51115. 1 Merit received by 13ex07 (#1207068) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51116. 1 Merit received by 13dizel (#1208678) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51117. 1 Merit received by 1357924680 (#333305) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51118. 1 Merit received by 12tribes (#1221082) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51119. 1 Merit received by 12assa34 (#1729394) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51120. 1 Merit received by 123tm (#848549) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51121. 1 Merit received by 123pogi123 (#2252156) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51122. 1 Merit received by 123exo123 (#1919155) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51123. 1 Merit received by 112_blockchain (#2081987) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51124. 1 Merit received by 11:11pas (#1306783) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51125. 1 Merit received by 1083ivangod (#1952712) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51126. 1 Merit received by 101Crypta (#1287691) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51127. 1 Merit received by 100x (#80115) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51128. 1 Merit received by 100steeze (#3637720) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51129. 1 Merit received by 100%_Shared_FreeBitco.in (#2531436) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51130. 1 Merit received by 100monet (#323057) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51131. 1 Merit received by 1000x (#3509491) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51132. 1 Merit received by 1000usdforwife (#1547718) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51133. 1 Merit received by 1000alasan (#2458354) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51134. 1 Merit received by 0xMuted (#3713926) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51135. 1 Merit received by 0xBrian (#2625170) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51136. 1 Merit received by 0xb100d (#1342964) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51137. 1 Merit received by 0x77 (#3316521) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51138. 1 Merit received by 0x1Knowledge (#2000899) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51139. 1 Merit received by 0vx (#2805438) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51140. 1 Merit received by 0RajA0 (#1151527) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51141. 1 Merit received by 0nion (#3614135) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51142. 1 Merit received by 0bit (#493268) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51143. 1 Merit received by 063Myxa (#1432563) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51144. 1 Merit received by 05btc (#2050202) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51145. 1 Merit received by 00RedBlack00 (#2527578) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51146. 1 Merit received by 00hello (#2471124) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51147. 1 Merit received by $--Perfect. Exchange-$. (#1140007) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51148. 1 Merit received by $imple$imon (#2060672) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51149. 1 Merit received by $BitMakeR$ (#1166812) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 51150. 0 Merit received by gwsukabokepjepang (#2536607) from 2 unique users in 2 transactions
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Total number of users who gave away 1 or more sMerit: 26587
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     1. 72989 Merit sent by El duderino_ (#1067333) to 901 unique users in 12700 transactions
     2. 67862 Merit sent by fillippone (#1852120) to 2197 unique users in 29316 transactions
     3. 66669 Merit sent by LoyceV (#459836) to 3322 unique users in 17628 transactions
     4. 59127 Merit sent by JayJuanGee (#252510) to 3590 unique users in 56924 transactions
     5. 58421 Merit sent by ABCbits (#359716) to 4616 unique users in 33465 transactions
     6. 50219 Merit sent by vapourminer (#33156) to 3681 unique users in 34745 transactions
     7. 43740 Merit sent by hugeblack (#1059082) to 2840 unique users in 15446 transactions
     8. 41808 Merit sent by suchmoon (#234771) to 2887 unique users in 9159 transactions
     9. 38213 Merit sent by DdmrDdmr (#1582324) to 2961 unique users in 30996 transactions
    10. 37622 Merit sent by xandry (#382413) to 2515 unique users in 13997 transactions
    11. 34428 Merit sent by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) to 1583 unique users in 13876 transactions
    12. 33333 Merit sent by Symmetrick (#2627711) to 2254 unique users in 16803 transactions
    13. 32132 Merit sent by The Sceptical Chymist (#487418) to 1473 unique users in 10324 transactions
    14. 30279 Merit sent by klarki (#407174) to 2108 unique users in 10641 transactions
    15. 28706 Merit sent by EFS (#140584) to 1431 unique users in 7538 transactions
    16. 28011 Merit sent by Welsh (#84521) to 1686 unique users in 6611 transactions
    17. 26646 Merit sent by o_e_l_e_o (#1188543) to 2510 unique users in 9360 transactions
    18. 25819 Merit sent by 1miau (#2143453) to 1315 unique users in 11613 transactions
    19. 23572 Merit sent by qwk (#24140) to 603 unique users in 6457 transactions
    20. 22991 Merit sent by pooya87 (#379147) to 1377 unique users in 9491 transactions
    21. 22424 Merit sent by dbshck (#153634) to 1314 unique users in 6442 transactions
    22. 17463 Merit sent by NotATether (#2739424) to 1724 unique users in 3949 transactions
    23. 16182 Merit sent by Vispilio (#982288) to 745 unique users in 5987 transactions
    24. 16136 Merit sent by Halab (#1053119) to 1980 unique users in 6551 transactions
    25. 16015 Merit sent by nutildah (#317618) to 1724 unique users in 7371 transactions
    26. 15719 Merit sent by Julien_Olynpic (#1166480) to 535 unique users in 7394 transactions
    27. 15400 Merit sent by Pmalek (#112493) to 1173 unique users in 9041 transactions
    28. 15198 Merit sent by Foxpup (#55384) to 642 unique users in 5474 transactions
    29. 14497 Merit sent by bitmover (#1554927) to 1302 unique users in 8219 transactions
    30. 14338 Merit sent by theymos (#35) to 1103 unique users in 1754 transactions
    31. 14014 Merit sent by philipma1957 (#64507) to 1664 unique users in 7323 transactions
    32. 13296 Merit sent by krogothmanhattan (#1000199) to 660 unique users in 3607 transactions
    33. 13232 Merit sent by CryptopreneurBrainboss (#1052091) to 1337 unique users in 7364 transactions
    34. 13226 Merit sent by OgNasty (#18321) to 3024 unique users in 7074 transactions
    35. 13076 Merit sent by paxmao (#1192397) to 1303 unique users in 5844 transactions
    36. 13040 Merit sent by dkbit98 (#1410401) to 1133 unique users in 7957 transactions
    37. 12866 Merit sent by NeuroticFish (#257071) to 824 unique users in 6095 transactions
    38. 12849 Merit sent by BlackHatCoiner (#2775483) to 829 unique users in 4226 transactions
    39. 12114 Merit sent by chimk (#1202061) to 757 unique users in 4369 transactions
    40. 11320 Merit sent by d5000 (#85033) to 1159 unique users in 6255 transactions
    41. 10543 Merit sent by mikeywith (#2033515) to 545 unique users in 3954 transactions
    42. 8734 Merit sent by DarkStar_ (#507936) to 971 unique users in 2196 transactions
    43. 8712 Merit sent by bones261 (#452769) to 1032 unique users in 4239 transactions
    44. 8269 Merit sent by Coolcryptovator (#1980983) to 1042 unique users in 3595 transactions
    45. 8207 Merit sent by Buchi-88 (#204821) to 753 unique users in 7191 transactions
    46. 8089 Merit sent by BobLawblaw (#569455) to 329 unique users in 3303 transactions
    47. 8065 Merit sent by Hueristic (#198573) to 574 unique users in 6992 transactions
    48. 7952 Merit sent by OmegaStarScream (#375981) to 947 unique users in 3482 transactions
    49. 7606 Merit sent by babo (#65636) to 512 unique users in 6029 transactions
    50. 7133 Merit sent by hosemary (#995810) to 517 unique users in 4042 transactions
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 26538. 1 Merit sent by 3acaga (#1232502) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26539. 1 Merit sent by 360llqzc (#1300924) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26540. 1 Merit sent by 333btc (#3450760) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26541. 1 Merit sent by 3227jw (#2592839) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26542. 1 Merit sent by 2x2coindwarf (#2686612) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26543. 1 Merit sent by 2x25BT (#990097) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26544. 1 Merit sent by 2drive (#1304704) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26545. 1 Merit sent by 2andahalfBTC (#1142164) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26546. 1 Merit sent by 27QVUTZj8rgZP1 (#662730) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26547. 1 Merit sent by 27aume (#1001865) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26548. 1 Merit sent by 2342q6tegw (#1212678) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26549. 1 Merit sent by 214missy (#1285563) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26550. 1 Merit sent by 212fox (#1342293) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26551. 1 Merit sent by 1xbitpatnar (#3475604) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26552. 1 Merit sent by 1r0n (#1252002) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26553. 1 Merit sent by 1pool Ltd. (#2062862) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26554. 1 Merit sent by 1melyun (#543052) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26555. 1 Merit sent by 1cyrax00 (#964210) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26556. 1 Merit sent by 1CryptoSmurf (#1352746) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26557. 1 Merit sent by 1chempion123 (#1346880) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26558. 1 Merit sent by 1cak (#1136856) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26559. 1 Merit sent by 1amCrypt0 (#933826) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26560. 1 Merit sent by 19Nov16 (#921267) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26561. 1 Merit sent by 19nataliya12 (#1873934) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26562. 1 Merit sent by 19dimasik77 (#881779) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26563. 1 Merit sent by 1971ECPT (#3553473) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26564. 1 Merit sent by 17buratin (#1187494) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26565. 1 Merit sent by 13ex07 (#1207068) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26566. 1 Merit sent by 13Charlie (#76987) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26567. 1 Merit sent by 12retepnat34 (#1053271) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26568. 1 Merit sent by 10yearsolder (#1094878) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26569. 1 Merit sent by 10sat (#1162504) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26570. 1 Merit sent by 10casproj (#3515598) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26571. 1 Merit sent by 10BTCaDay (#396522) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26572. 1 Merit sent by 100kk (#1316426) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26573. 1 Merit sent by 100eth (#1324600) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26574. 1 Merit sent by 0xBitcoins (#2205183) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26575. 1 Merit sent by 0xBet (#3572636) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26576. 1 Merit sent by 0x0333 (#1913654) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26577. 1 Merit sent by 0vn1 (#1216048) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26578. 1 Merit sent by 0virtual (#1244555) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26579. 1 Merit sent by 0id1d (#3600764) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26580. 1 Merit sent by 0Alvaren0 (#2020991) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26581. 1 Merit sent by 01BTC (#1756786) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26582. 1 Merit sent by 01bits (#1629161) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26583. 1 Merit sent by 00HasH (#841746) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26584. 1 Merit sent by 00DKM@ (#1311705) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26585. 1 Merit sent by 00.00WIB (#3392171) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26586. 1 Merit sent by $@to$h! (#1183184) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
 26587. 1 Merit sent by $Talker (#1043705) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
Full list (3 MB)

Merit per day of the week
Monday 328563 (14.37%)
Tuesday 327553 (14.33%)
Wednesday 327674 (14.33%)
Thursday 348124 (15.23%)
Friday 346081 (15.14%)
Saturday 301971 (13.21%)
Sunday 305746 (13.37%)
Total: 2285712


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18. Post 66579421 (unedited backup) (by KycNotList) (scraped on Sat Apr 4 03:07:07 CEST 2026) in [ANN] KycNotList.com — No KYC / No AML Crypto Exchange Monitor 🔎:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 01:01:52 AM
How quick is the rate updated?

I tested and SageSwap was wrong for BTC to MONERO

Your website showed a much lower rate compared to what I see on the website Huh

I see a much different rate as well.

maybe the website uses some kind of cache and the value is not updated? which is a problem for a service like that.

I think ideally there should be at most 1-2min delay, at the most 5minutes.

For now, I see 1 = 66900 in B1exch and 66200 in kycnotlist.com, which is a huge difference.

The website is a good initiative, congrats on your idea. But need to fix this.

Of course, thank you for your feedback-it’s the only way we can identify our shortcomings and address them. We’ll fix this issue as soon as possible.




19. Post 66578322 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Fri Apr 3 21:29:01 CEST 2026) in Buy Buy Buy or Sell Sell Sell?:

Quote from: Rockson1 on Today at 07:16:30 AM
Rich people will stay rich forever if their wealth is growing faster than they are spending it. 
You are very correct, wealth will not grow if wealthy people don't spread their tentacles I means invest in valuable assets, once the habit of spending surpass that of investment, wealth drops drastically and if care is not taking, such can lead to debt,

Why do you need to be so dramatic?  Figuring out how to grow wealth and/or to preserve wealth is not an all or nothing proposition, even if there are some assets that have historically performed better than others, and there are ways in which various adjustments might be ongoingly made to holdings, whether the wealth person(s) is(are) managing their investment portfolios themselves or if they might be employing the services of a financial advisor (wealth manager). 

Even if we might recognize bitcoin as a superior investment vehicle, we do not have enough information to conclude that everyone else is losing their wealth to bitcoin (relatively speaking) within the largest wealth transfer in history.  The process is not so clear about what to be in and what to not be in, even though retrospectively we might see that some investment portfolios had performed better than others, some portfolios might have grown and others might have gotten smaller, yet the mere fact that some wealthy folks might be underperforming others (relatively speaking) does not automatically signify that they are in any kind of a dire position in regards to having to downwardly adjust their standard of living... whether they have intentions to pass on their wealth or to merely use their wealth for during their own life, including that folks are at differing ages in term of their considerations about how long they might need to prepare for in the event that some of their assets might lose, gain or stay the same in terms of current value as compared with future value in the span of their life.

Quote from: Rockson1 on Today at 07:16:30 AM
if we look at those that are rich in the world today, they did not stop investment, they did not just fold their hand to start spending from the wealth they have. Acquired rather they go for more investment, they buy good asset and turn into something different, but all of this, is about the mindset, I do not think that any rich person will want to go broke that is why it seems like there is competition between wealthy people, they never get satisfied not because they are greedy but because they actually do not want to slide.

It seems problematic to presume that no one ever has enough, since there are plenty of wealthy people who have enough and more than enough... so they do not necessarily need to continue to grow, whether they have part of their wealth in bitcoin or not. 

In other words, wealthy people are at different stages in terms of whether they are still accumulating wealth, attempting to maintain and/or liquidating (sustainable withdrawal), and it seems problematic to presume that everyone is always stuck in an accumulation phase, which is a similar mistake that people make about bitcoiners.  Not every bitcoiner is like Saylor and wants to accumulate all of the bitcoin.  People tend to not be so ambitious and to be more inclined to peg themselves within their already existing standard of living, even if they might choose to up their standard of living by 2x, 5x or maybe even 10x, there still tends to be some practical limits in term of how people might want to use their wealth.. and yeah maybe real young people might have larger ambitions if they reach wealth early, and if we are talking about already wealthy folks, they may get their wealth passed down from a family member and have to figure out how to preserve and/or grow the wealth, so surely there are a lot of examples of folks who receive wealth rather than generate wealth who do not figure out ways to preserve it and/or to grow it so that they spend from their inherited wealth in sustainable ways.

In the end, I am not going to agree with your assertion that everyone has a never ending thirst for more and more wealth that cannot be quenched, and sure we could go into examples, and maybe you are the one who has the burden to show such examples if you believe that it really is true that everyone (or an overwhelming majority of people) cannot be quenched with the level of wealth that they have or that they had acquired.

Quote from: iamsange on Today at 07:48:58 AM
You are very correct, wealth will not grow if wealthy people don't spread their tentacles I means invest in valuable assets, once the habit of spending surpass that of investment, wealth drops drastically and if care is not taking, such can lead to debt, if we look at those that are rich in the world today, they did not stop investment, they did not just fold their hand to start spending from the wealth they have. Acquired rather they go for more investment, they buy good asset and turn into something different, but all of this, is about the mindset, I do not think that any rich person will want to go broke that is why it seems like there is competition between wealthy people, they never get satisfied not because they are greedy but because they actually do not want to slide.
If you only rely on what you already have this will certainly be temporary because the wealth you have is not for investment. No matter how much money someone has, it will eventually run out unless the rich person does it by starting a business for example if there is no desire to invest in Bitcoin at least the money you have will have income.

There are sustainable withdrawal systems, so you do not have to deplete the principle of your wealth in order to live off of it, and sure, some assets are growing faster (or slower than others), and many of us likely realize that if you cannot get an asset that is growing greater than the debasement of the dollar then you may well be ongoingly losing wealth.

Many traditional investment systems had presumed that a 3% to 4% withdrawal rate was either sufficiently sustainable or that it was infinitely sustainable, yet in recent times, there has been recognition that the dollar has been debasing at higher and higher rates, and perhaps even the earlier 2%-ish debasement rate is being reconsidered to have had been erroneous in terms of thinking that the debasement rate has always been much higher than 2%, even though 2% was thought to be the official rate (at least in the West and in terms of the dollar).

Anyhow, ultimately it is good to consider that wherever the value is being placed that the returns are greater than the withdrawal rate and also accounting for the debasement rate, too.

Quote from: iamsange on Today at 07:48:58 AM
This is to be aware of things that might happen. In fact not everyone wants their money to run out without any other income. So whoever among us has wealth of course what we need to do is continue to invest for our future. I think for young people today if they have sufficient income what they should do is invest for their future. The point is before becoming rich what we must do when we have income is invest one of the right steps for all of us who still have sufficient income.

Sure. If you can build up your investments so that you can live off of them and substitute your income from your job with the income from your investment, then you are likely in great place. I frequently like to use the example of the guy with a $30k per year income who might choose to quit his job once his investment will support an income at $80k per year... and I am referring to withdrawal of the gains and not the depletion of the principle. 

There are ways to figure out formulas, and surely different assets are going to have different return rates.

Do I need to give the bitcoin example?  Sure guys might have bitcoin and they might have other assets (and/or income source) too, so it would likely be more accurate to consider the different return rates of the assets, even though some guys (once they arrive at the time where they are starting to withdraw or consider withdrawal strategies) might choose to withdraw flattly accross all of the assets in proportion to the value of the assets rather than in terms of their expected return rates.  There are a variety of ways to carry out such withdrawal practices, and there may well not be any answer that is completely correct about how to do it in order to accomplish the goals of potentially getting the desired value out of them and potentially goals of keeping the principle intact so that the withdrawal rates are sustainable - which largely would mean that on average the dollar value of the assets is growing faster than the amount that it is being withdrawn from.. so that if $80k is being withdrawn each year, the overall assets are growing in value more than the amount being taken out.

Another thing that I do in my own calculations is to figure out an amount to increase the dollar amount that is able to be withdrawn each year, so if we consider that the cost of living is going up more than the official rates of 3-5%, then perhaps we might want our withdrawal amount to go up at a higher rate (such as 7% per year), so year 1, the withdrawal rate would be $80k, then year 2, the withdrawal rate would be $85.6k, then year 3, the withdrawal rate would be $91.6k, and then year 4, the withdrawal rate would be $98k, etc. etc. etc.   The investment is keeping up with the cost of living at a sufficient level so that the person withdrawing is not getting poorer, and surely if the amount of his wealth is way higher than the minimum amount to sustain such a withdrawal rate, then he has a lot of cushion, and he can monitor if his wealth is not keeping up.

So for example, right now, in order to have a sustainable income of $80k per year from his BTC, a guy would need to have at least 15.1 BTC, so maybe if the guy actually has more than 50% more than his withdrawal rate (such a 23 BTC or more), then he has plenty of cushion to be withdrawing at the $80k per year rate including the 7% increase in the dollar amount.

Quote from: iamsange on Today at 07:48:58 AM
This is because the position we feel now is still in good health and is still able to work but in the future if we don't invest anything it will be difficult if one day our health is reduced but with the investment we make this is certainly a good thing when we experience what we mentioned earlier because everyone doesn't want to have nothing in their old age so investing is one of the best ways that we should do when our position is still strong in working at a young age.

Sure, guys should be building and investing during their earning years, so that by the time they might not be ready, willing and/or able to work any more, then they are able to fall back on their investments, and they would have had needed to build it up in earlier years and made sure that they did not lose it along the way so that is is there by the time they transition from working and/or earning and being able to live off of it, whatever their whole investment portfolio might have had grown to.



20. Post 66577543 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Fri Apr 3 18:19:07 CEST 2026) in MicroStrategy Buys $250M in Bitcoin, Calling the Crypto ‘Superior to Cash’:

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 08:50:56 AM
One of the reasons that I like to measure from the 200-WMA is in order to not get overly selective based on spot prices...  Sure, spot prices are real, but the 200-WMA smoothens out the irregularities. 

In the past 5 years, the 200-WMA went from $10,650 to $59,350.    That is 5.5x over 5 years.  Pretty damned good.  That is a 41% CAGR for the 200-WMA.

Here's what the Excel spreadsheet input looks like for a 41% CAGR on the 200-WMA:

2021                  $10,650.00
2022                  $15,016.50
2023                  $21,173.27
2024                  $29,854.30
2025                  $42,094.57
2026                  $59,353.34
2027                  $83,688.21
I'm not sure why you're using the 200-WMA, which is supposed to help identify trends. What I mean is this.

A 17.5% return over the past 5 years works out to just over a 3% CAGR.

I personally believe that it is better to use long term averages such as the 200-WMA in order to valuate holdings and to make decisions in regards to what to do. Spot prices tend to be all over the place, even though sure, at any particular time if we are buying or selling we are using spot price at that particular moment - yet Saylor/MSTR proclaim that they are never selling (absent getting forced into having to do so), so there can be various ways to valuate holdings and even project forward such valuations.

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 08:50:56 AM
But if you like, you can compare that 200-day moving average with the 200-day moving average of the S&P 500 or gold, and you’ll see that Bitcoin’s CAGR is very poor compared to those of these two assets.

Why would I use such a short time period, when I already pointed out the 200-WMA order to make a longer term proclamation in a way to valuate BTC holdings?  200-day is similar to the 30 Week moving average.. it is way too short to get any meaning, since it is only half of a year.  The 200-WMA is a 4 year weekly average, and Bitcoin has 4 year cycles. Sure we can proclaim that the 4-year cycles has been disappearing or becoming less important, yet at the same time, the longer moving averages make more sense to me.. and likely longer-term moving averages motivate Saylor/MSTR too.

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 08:50:56 AM
As a company they have gone from mediocre wealth (like half a billion) to many many billions (more than $50 billion) and not too many encumbrances, relatively speaking..
They did the same 26 years ago.


Huh?  Times have changed. I don't see what is so relevant about 26 years ago.  You are wanting to suggest that they are going to repeat in their same mistakes, but instead with bitcoin this time around?  Sure, it is possible, but we are also dealing with some different current dynamics and a different asset (namely bitcoin) even though we have  lot of conflicting macro factors in current times, including trying to figure out the extent to which bitcoin might be able to stand up - even considering that some of the financial systems being built up around bitcoin are variations of cooptation attacks, whether Saylor/MSTR is an insider or an outsider, there can be various winners and or losers when systems are evolving, and we have some macro level changes that seem to be taking place.

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 08:50:56 AM
Saylor is still considered to be an innovator in regards to his investment into bitcoin and the various financial products, and sure, he might be off with his theories and he might be a bit too bullish.

I am not going to proclaim that he is being disinqenuine, even though I liked him better in the earlier times, and he seems to be pumping the various financial products in the past year and a half or so, and even seeming to be getting further and further away from the peer to peer attribute of bitcoin that brings power to bitcoin... so I have some things that irritate me about him, too.
The problem arises when you base your new products on numbers that don't hold up.

Hard for me to believe that I might be considered as defending Saylor/MSTR here, even though one of my main points was to attempt to provide a framework for long term evaluation, even if the long term values might not end up working out.  We know that the future is tough to figure out and yeah, sure it is possible that Saylor/MSTR might have had been putting too many chips on their point of view, and even with his continuing to make plays and/or to double down, he could be getting himself into trouble that is similar to his past gambling behaviors, to the extent that he might not have had learned lessons from previously (given the scenario of history repeating itself in regards to Saylor and his company).

In the meantime, Saylor/MSTR have been (and likely will continue) to get rich in the process with the stacking up of assets (namely bitcoin) using other people's money.

So maybe each of us is concerned about some of the seeming injustices that involve using seemingly gullible people to continue to invest in MSTR and the various MSTR bitcoin-related financial products, yet do either of us proclaim that Saylor/MSTR's conduct rises to a high enough level to be actionable (such as in a court of law?)..   It may well not be quite at those levels, yet.. or at least based on what either you and/or I have been saying in regards to material representations (or misrepresentations) that Saylor/MSTR have been making.

Or perhaps you are suggesting that Saylor/MSTR have been making material misrepresentations that rise to the level of legally actionable? 

Of course, we don't have to have legally actionable in order to complain about what they are doing and/or to convince others to not get involved with Saylor/MSTR products - even though surely those products could still work out as either trades or as investments... including that some folks might consider their position to be in the 1% to 10% territories as being responsible hedges, and other guys might be willing to go outside of those ranges.  I surely have not bought any of those products yet, even though getting a 11.5% could be pretty attractive way of generating cash if a guy might not be worried about being able to get in and out of such a product.  Those level of returns attract capital, even though I understand that Ponzi schemes tend to employ the same kinds of large return tactics to attract capital.



21. Post 66576674 (unedited backup) (by dwyane36) (scraped on Fri Apr 3 13:23:31 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: Zoomic on April 02, 2026, 11:24:00 PM
Didnt win anything again....


https://x.com/bitz_casino_en/status/2039330516902789559

How much did those users had?

I though 5k SATS were so much money . Not even top 3 ....
There must always be people willing to do more in order to win.
You were collecting the Sats obviously for fun, but there are people doing it as if their lives depend their or it's a job. So, you can win against those people.

These set of winners didn't have their sats amount attached to the result just like the first one. We would have known how close you were to the top 3.

The users who made it into the top 3 and won prizes in this event really managed to accumulate a lot of sats. To be more precise, the user who came in third had 10.8k sats, the second-place user had 15.4k sats, and the first-place user had over 18k sats. Obviously, it’s not easy to compete with users like that, especially if you don’t visit the rewards center every day for free sats.



22. Post 66576327 (unedited backup) (by Free Market Capitalist) (scraped on Fri Apr 3 10:51:01 CEST 2026) in MicroStrategy Buys $250M in Bitcoin, Calling the Crypto ‘Superior to Cash’:

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 02, 2026, 05:32:56 AM
One of the reasons that I like to measure from the 200-WMA is in order to not get overly selective based on spot prices...  Sure, spot prices are real, but the 200-WMA smoothens out the irregularities. 

In the past 5 years, the 200-WMA went from $10,650 to $59,350.    That is 5.5x over 5 years.  Pretty damned good.  That is a 41% CAGR for the 200-WMA.

Here's what the Excel spreadsheet input looks like for a 41% CAGR on the 200-WMA:

2021                  $10,650.00
2022                  $15,016.50
2023                  $21,173.27
2024                  $29,854.30
2025                  $42,094.57
2026                  $59,353.34
2027                  $83,688.21

I'm not sure why you're using the 200-WMA, which is supposed to help identify trends. What I mean is this.



A 17.5% return over the past 5 years works out to just over a 3% CAGR.

But if you like, you can compare that 200-day moving average with the 200-day moving average of the S&P 500 or gold, and you’ll see that Bitcoin’s CAGR is very poor compared to those of these two assets.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 02, 2026, 05:32:56 AM
As a company they have gone from mediocre wealth (like half a billion) to many many billions (more than $50 billion) and not too many encumbrances, relatively speaking..

They did the same 26 years ago.



Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 02, 2026, 05:32:56 AM
Saylor is still considered to be an innovator in regards to his investment into bitcoin and the various financial products, and sure, he might be off with his theories and he might be a bit too bullish.

I am not going to proclaim that he is being disinqenuine, even though I liked him better in the earlier times, and he seems to be pumping the various financial products in the past year and a half or so, and even seeming to be getting further and further away from the peer to peer attribute of bitcoin that brings power to bitcoin... so I have some things that irritate me about him, too.

The problem arises when you base your new products on numbers that don't hold up.

Quote from: Ambatman on April 02, 2026, 02:27:09 PM
The biggest impact of them going treasury isn't what they have gained from holding Bitcoin alone
But the impact it has had on their shares.
Compare the performance MSTR and Bitcoin 2021 you can tell the share has an higher net positive.

Yes but the problem is the trend.

Quote from: Ambatman on April 02, 2026, 02:27:09 PM
And sitting at an unrealised profit, it's because he doesn't have to time the market

Wrong, he is at an unrealized loss.

Quote from: Ambatman on April 02, 2026, 02:27:09 PM
If Bitcoin was above $100K I doubt he would have much scrutiny

If it were over $100K, he would certainly still be under scrutiny, since he wouldn't have a 30% return his Bitcoin stash.



23. Post 66575738 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Fri Apr 3 05:03:25 CEST 2026) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: nutildah on Today at 12:19:22 AM
[edited out]
I hate having to spend time replying to you.

That makes a lot of sense, and likely explains why you had created a whole thread about me, and also couldn't resist chiming into Bob's parody thread of your thread.

I am starting to understand, now.

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 12:35:31 AM
[edited out]
I would argue scrypt with lts merged doge and ltc is not that shitty.

as i type i still mine scrypt.
but i mine more btc than scrypt.

Let the shitcoin floodgates open so that we can argue about which shitcoins are less shitty.

I am sure that will be a great adjustment for this here thread.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 01:37:26 AM
[edited out]
well 100 coins full tax on 6.6 million is 2.2 million you net 4.4 million.
thats good for me my spend could go to 200k a year plus the 401k and the pensions.

decent life and would not run out of money.
but 1.65 btc is not 100 coins.

Perhaps part of the explanation for your only having 1.65 BTC is because your initial reaction is to sell all of the coins a d then live off of the profits from all of the coins that you sold, even though maybe you end up putting that value in dollar based investments (if we can call T-bills an investment) rather than just keeping it in bitcoin.

It seems to me that right now 100 BTC would support a monthly withdrawal rate of $44,532 (which is $534k per year), and then a 7% a year raise of the dollar rate (using the 200-WMA valuation), sos I am not sure why there would be any need to cash out the BTC for inferior products.. Sure.. there could be ways to cash out some higher amounts if the BTC price has up periods, and you also have room to decrease your withdrawal amount during certain periods that the BTC price is down, too.

Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 01:37:26 AM
anyone with 1000 coins living in the usa should sell 100 and hodl.
frankly at 1000 coins they should have sold 100 at 100k price when it hit.

1,000 BTC is the same formula as 100 BTC (above).  It is merely 10x more, so 1,000 BTC could support you withdrawing sustainably at $445,324 per month (which would be $5.34 million per year.  I don't see why you would be motivated to sell off 100 BTC right away rather than working within a reasonable and sustainable withdrawal rate.. even though sure, for convenience sake, there might be some times you might want to sell more during periods that the BTC price is particularly far above the 200-WMA or alternatively sell a bit less BTC during periods that the BTC price is either close to the 200-WMA or below the 200-WMA.



24. Post 66575478 (unedited backup) (by Zoomic) (scraped on Fri Apr 3 01:24:02 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 08:38:55 AM
Didnt win anything again....


https://x.com/bitz_casino_en/status/2039330516902789559

How much did those users had?

I though 5k SATS were so much money . Not even top 3 ....
There must always be people willing to do more in order to win.
You were collecting the Sats obviously for fun, but there are people doing it as if their lives depend their or it's a job. So, you can win against those people.

These set of winners didn't have their sats amount attached to the result just like the first one. We would have known how close you were to the top 3.



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27. Post 66574451 (unedited backup) (by theymos) (scraped on Thu Apr 2 20:04:55 CEST 2026) in DT update log:

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28. Post 66574234 (unedited backup) (by Forsyth Jones) (scraped on Thu Apr 2 19:02:55 CEST 2026) in Dados de merit da nossa aba local:

Quote from: criptoevangelista on April 01, 2026, 11:26:30 AM
Queda grande de atividade , seguindo o trend anterior. Queda maior ainda no merit ratio.

Não esperava uma queda tão grande. Acho que o mês de Março vai pelo mesmo caminho.

Temos andam um pouco mais calmos aqui na aba. Talvez estejamos a fazer menos offtopic dentro de cada tópico.

Enfim, temos que nos animar, e começar aumentar mais um pouco a nossa atividade, mantendo a qualidade, claro.
Vou tentar pensar em algumas coisas.

Cripto ta meio em baixa, sequer temos novos usuários, sendo que no pseudo Hype do topo, tivemos uma meia duzia de dois ou três novatos aparecendo, acho que nós mesmos deveríamos no caso conversar mais sobre coisas off-topic, até mesmo dicas de coisas, empreendedorismo, experiências, sei la, qualquer coisa que seja, acredito eu que aqui no fórum tem muitas pessoas na qual so abrem aqui para ler e não tem cadastro, e vendo assuntos diferentes do mundo cripto, pode ter a vontade de se cadastrar e começar a interagir com a gente... apesar do fórum ser o bitcoin talk, nada nos impede de conversarmos sobre o que quer que seja (minha humilde opinião)
Não adianta ir muito pro off-topic, isso vai fazer a qualidade da aba cair de vez. Assuntos interessantes como empreendedorismo, like u said, renda extra, dicas que aumentam a produtividade online, viagens (seria interessante um tour pelo paraguai) sai um pouco do bitcoin mas ainda mantém a qualidade do forum.

Mas como os foruns é praticamente morto no brasil, acho que esse é o melhor forum.

Precisamos fazer a aba local great again.



29. Post 66573835 (unedited backup) (by terrific) (scraped on Thu Apr 2 17:05:08 CEST 2026) in 🎲 BetFury.io|⚡️ Free BTC|⚡️ $3mln Dividends paid|⚡️ $200K Jackpots|⚡️ $1mln Cas:

Quote from: serjent05 on April 01, 2026, 04:41:54 PM
I already lost a good amount of money trying to get back my losses.

I think majority of gambler experienced that.  Trying to win back losses ends up in more losses.
That's the bitter truth of gambling, we all lose good amount of money then we lose even more if we try to recover them.

Quote from: serjent05 on April 01, 2026, 04:41:54 PM
You are not the only one do such thing. I also experience losing my bankroll and topping it up several times making my loses to balloon to 4x than my original intention of funds to use and lose.
This is the time when we get so emotional and we're losing ourselves through the desire of having more.
With the mistakes that's being said by other gamblers, it basically is also a problem of the others that we share these losses which becomes a common problem and result for each of us.



30. Post 66573808 (unedited backup) (by Leahized) (scraped on Thu Apr 2 16:58:37 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: Itz-prisigold on Today at 02:39:51 PM

If compared to the winner then we can say that it is indeed much smaller, but if compared to mine bitmover is much bigger.

If we look at the winner it needs to be fixed, Badmangeee should be the first winner because he has the most number of SATs, that number is 18k SATs if it is true. It seems like I'm getting pessimistic if many people already have a lot of SAT, is there a reset in this event at a certain time?

Yeah that's true, with what I am seeing the first winners had 15k SATS and the third winner has 18k SATS, so I think the list still needs to be fixed. I just wonder how they are using to choose the winners that they keep on making mistakes but I don't think that will be an issue though, because we all can see the first winners.

When I observe the amount of SATS of the winners and look at the winner list, I see this disparity. I think it's a mistake from the team while listing. Because it is clear that the person who collects the highest SATS will occupy the first place. However, the team should have been more careful in selecting the winner because there are repeated mistakes. I think the team is not paying much attention because for the first time they have selected the maximum amount and announced as the winner. To solve this problem, the team should, in addition to checking the Twitter account, check the bitz account, this will clear everything up.



31. Post 66573748 (unedited backup) (by Itz-prisigold) (scraped on Thu Apr 2 16:39:55 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: whiteblue on Today at 01:13:06 PM

If compared to the winner then we can say that it is indeed much smaller, but if compared to mine bitmover is much bigger.

If we look at the winner it needs to be fixed, Badmangeee should be the first winner because he has the most number of SATs, that number is 18k SATs if it is true. It seems like I'm getting pessimistic if many people already have a lot of SAT, is there a reset in this event at a certain time?

Yeah that's true, with what I am seeing the first winners had 15k SATS and the third winner has 18k SATS, so I think the list still needs to be fixed. I just wonder how they are using to choose the winners that they keep on making mistakes but I don't think that will be an issue though, because we all can see the first winners.

Quote from: whiteblue on Today at 01:13:06 PM
It seems like I'm getting pessimistic if many people already have a lot of SAT, is there a reset in this event at a certain time?

I don't really know if there will be any reset, because there is no clear information about resetting the contest. But maybe it all depends on how the system was designed, and if there will be no reset, then trust me those users that already have a lot of SATS will always be ahead of new users that just start collecting their daily SATS. But the best thing for you to do, is not to feel discouraged, just keep collecting your daily SATS and not stress yourself too much about others for now.



32. Post 66573478 (unedited backup) (by whiteblue) (scraped on Thu Apr 2 15:13:07 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: Itz-prisigold on Today at 11:48:15 AM
I though 5k SATS were so much money . Not even top 3 ....

Despite the fact that you have 5k SATS, I think it was not still up to what the three winners had. I just hope there will be another contest again and maybe by then you might be among the winners, and it's even possible that you might have even accumulate more SATS.

If compared to the winner then we can say that it is indeed much smaller, but if compared to mine bitmover is much bigger.

If we look at the winner it needs to be fixed, Badmangeee should be the first winner because he has the most number of SATs, that number is 18k SATs if it is true. It seems like I'm getting pessimistic if many people already have a lot of SAT, is there a reset in this event at a certain time?



33. Post 66573246 (unedited backup) (by Itz-prisigold) (scraped on Thu Apr 2 13:48:19 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 08:38:55 AM
We carefully reviewed all the entries on the "Flex Challenge" and turned out that the winners faked their screenshots, we'll announce new legit winners today Smiley
Bitmover, arise and shine. It's your turn now Grin


@Bitz_Casino, what will be the punishment of the cheaters. I hate it when cheaters always want to cheat in everything Angry

Didnt win anything again....


https://x.com/bitz_casino_en/status/2039330516902789559

How much did those users had?

I though 5k SATS were so much money . Not even top 3 ....

So this actually means the first winners really lied about their SATS or what? So does this mean that the Bitz team did not do a proper check on the entries before announcing the first winners? So people are out there lying just to be among the winners, but anyways it's actually good the they had to recheck and correct the errors.

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 08:38:55 AM
I though 5k SATS were so much money . Not even top 3 ....

Despite the fact that you have 5k SATS, I think it was not still up to what the three winners had. I just hope there will be another contest again and maybe by then you might be among the winners, and it's even possible that you might have even accumulate more SATS.



34. Post 66573094 (unedited backup) (by Leahized) (scraped on Thu Apr 2 12:51:49 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 08:38:55 AM
Didnt win anything again....


https://x.com/bitz_casino_en/status/2039330516902789559

How much did those users had?

I though 5k SATS were so much money . Not even top 3 ....

I checked the profiles of the winners but unfortunately one of the three may have got the position number wrong.

1st position @ana25anzoategui (15,400 sats).
2nd position @24Bigsmoke_ (10,807 sats).
3rd position @Badmangeee (18,033 sats).

But if these three are valid users, then there is no problem. But you have 5k sats, it's a lot of money but much less than winners. don't you worry hope your luck will come back later.



35. Post 66573084 (unedited backup) (by Oasisman) (scraped on Thu Apr 2 12:48:25 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 08:38:55 AM
We carefully reviewed all the entries on the "Flex Challenge" and turned out that the winners faked their screenshots, we'll announce new legit winners today Smiley
Bitmover, arise and shine. It's your turn now Grin


@Bitz_Casino, what will be the punishment of the cheaters. I hate it when cheaters always want to cheat in everything Angry

Didnt win anything again....


https://x.com/bitz_casino_en/status/2039330516902789559

How much did those users had?

I though 5k SATS were so much money . Not even top 3 ....



I was able to check the user in the 2nd place, and dude had over 10k sats. So, most likely the 1st place ballpark figure should be near 15k sats. While the 3rd might be a little below 10k sats.
Looks like 5k wasn't enough, lol. Unless they made it top 10.
Better luck next time, man!



36. Post 66572360 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Thu Apr 2 07:33:01 CEST 2026) in MicroStrategy Buys $250M in Bitcoin, Calling the Crypto ‘Superior to Cash’:

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 04:10:16 AM
In other words, it seems to me that the different MSTR products do not necessarily stand on their own, and MSTR/Saylor have already largely suggested this as a rationale for the varying products, meaning that STRC can pay the 11.5% dividend (yield) and still be profitable in the whole scheme of things, so long as the overall average for bitcoin's performance ends up being greater than 11.5% over several years (such as over 4 years or more)..
I'm surprised you'd say that, because as I've said many times throughout this thread, the main problem with Saylor's strategy is that he doesn't capture Bitcoin's full potential return on his purchases; since he buys a lot when the price goes up and little or nothing when it goes down, his returns are much lower.

Saylor is just buying all of the time - whenever he has money, and coincidentally more money comes in when the price is going up.

And, maybe he is just overly bullish in his perspective, so he cannot help to continue to buy.  He might be broken in some ways.

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 04:10:16 AM
I’ll say it again: right now, Bitcoin has had a total return of 16% over the last 5 years, which works out to a 3% CAGR.

One of the reasons that I like to measure from the 200-WMA is in order to not get overly selective based on spot prices...  Sure, spot prices are real, but the 200-WMA smoothens out the irregularities. 

In the past 5 years, the 200-WMA went from $10,650 to $59,350.    That is 5.5x over 5 years.  Pretty damned good.  That is a 41% CAGR for the 200-WMA.

Here's what the Excel spreadsheet input looks like for a 41% CAGR on the 200-WMA:

2021                  $10,650.00
2022                  $15,016.50
2023                  $21,173.27
2024                  $29,854.30
2025                  $42,094.57
2026                  $59,353.34
2027                  $83,688.21

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 04:10:16 AM
Has Saylor earned 16% on his Bitcoin purchases? No. He has unrealized losses on his purchases; he has a negative return.

As a company they have gone from mediocre wealth (like half a billion) to many many billions (more than $50 billion) and not too many encumbrances, relatively speaking..

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 04:10:16 AM
If even you don’t understand or don’t remember that, I’m not surprised that Saylor finds so many unsuspecting people who buy his products.

Sure there is retail and there are also institutions and some products that seem to be meeting a demand that is not being met in the current market that MSTR is fulfilling with its various productss.

And, yeah, I don't claim to understand.  That's for sure.

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 04:10:16 AM
So, Saylor believes that he is being prudent to wait out the long term, even though the short term may well have some downward periods that will just play out over 4-ish years or more.
Rather than being cautious, the truth is that he based his model on a radical hypothesis, and when the numbers disprove it, instead of revising the hypothesis, he just keeps charging ahead. It’s quite reminiscent of PlanB and his S2F model, which, when it started to fail, instead of acknowledging he’d been wrong, he kept reformulating it and kept getting it wrong non-stop. At least PlanB wasn’t playing with billions of other people’s money.

Saylor is still considered to be an innovator in regards to his investment into bitcoin and the various financial products, and sure, he might be off with his theories and he might be a bit too bullish.

I am not going to proclaim that he is being disinqenuine, even though I liked him better in the earlier times, and he seems to be pumping the various financial products in the past year and a half or so, and even seeming to be getting further and further away from the peer to peer attribute of bitcoin that brings power to bitcoin... so I have some things that irritate me about him, too.
 
Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on Today at 04:10:16 AM
Nonetheless, Saylor was still projecting BTC returns to be higher in near future times (such as greater than 50%), but then to gravitate down to 30%-ish annualized and perhaps not go below 30% annualized until 5-10 years or more into the future.. and yeah during these downward price periods, MSTR/Saylor projections seem pie in the sky optimistic.. yet his suggestion would be that all of the products will end up working themselves out over 4 year plus timelines.  
Yes, but here’s the thing. Until relatively recently, Saylor had been saying that Bitcoin had been growing at a 50% CAGR over the past five years. Now that it’s been growing at just a 3% CAGR over the past five years, you don’t hear him mention it anymore. The last 5 years of Bitcoin’s 17-year history account for 30% of that time—a very significant period.

I understand the putting a favorable spin angle.. so I wouldn't really dispute you about any of his spinning nature and even avoiding some of the unfavorable facts.



37. Post 66571923 (unedited backup) (by bhadz) (scraped on Thu Apr 2 01:31:49 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: Wapfika on March 30, 2026, 07:40:14 PM
Although for this one there will be 200 winners that shall receive 50 USDT if chosen. And that's a lot of winners there and bitz chosen to pick more winners than someone who'll win with all of it. I think either of the two are a good giveaway and so, we all wish everyone good luck and also thanks to that reminder that the others might have also forgotten.
It’s good that they focus on the quantity of the giveaway to counter the bot that abusing social media giveaway. I just notice that there’s x20 wagering requirements on the rewards which maybe the reason why they have huge number of winner and at the same time have decent amount of reward.

X20 wager requirement is still within the manageable range to claim. I think anyone joining on the promotion has high chance to win considering that current submission is only at 290 comment.

I will try my luck on this giveaway.
They also need to profit on this one with that quite big giveaway and that's why the wagering is that much and it's understandable. Anyway, nice try as the winners have been announced.

Quote from: jcojci on March 31, 2026, 02:57:44 AM
From 200 winners, we hopes that we may be one of the winners so we can receive $50. We hopes that the winners will be from here so we can celebrates. It is just waiting for the luck but if we do not win, we can waiting and join the next giveaway. I am sure Bitz.io will releasing more giveaway to attract more people to join.
As the winners have been announced, it seems that there were some winners from the forum but distributed with small prizes. Not bad than having nothing.

Quote from: bitmover on March 31, 2026, 08:48:19 AM
Winners announced. I didn't get anything. THe 3rd place had 40k sats! I had 5.5 K only


https://x.com/bitz_casino_en/status/2038736758532170060
Congratulations to all the winners and to everyone to have participated in it.



38. Post 66571885 (unedited backup) (by Zoomic) (scraped on Thu Apr 2 01:14:31 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: B-BossMan on March 31, 2026, 12:25:08 PM
@Zoomic I understood how it works a little, I was just trying to explain his points, he said he have 5.5k, which I guess he was trying to say 55k, then definitely if it's 55k he should be given the position. My bad, I just noticed it was 5.5k he wrote.....Thanks for your observations.

And congratulations to the winners
Oh, I understand... Such mistakes are easy to be made. You initially didn't the the dot between the two fives, it could be an oversight.
Now you know it's an ordinary, 5,500 you agree with me that bitmover has no chance at all.

Quote from: Bitz_Casino on Today at 12:27:26 PM
We carefully reviewed all the entries on the "Flex Challenge" and turned out that the winners faked their screenshots, we'll announce new legit winners today Smiley
Bitmover, arise and shine. It's your turn now Grin

@Bitz_Casino, what will be the punishment of the cheaters. I hate it when cheaters always want to cheat in everything Angry



39. Post 66571858 (unedited backup) (by dewez) (scraped on Thu Apr 2 01:01:31 CEST 2026) in l0tt0.com:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 09:11:43 PM
for you?.... member fucking #4.. you get $1.50!

Member #4? That's cool

I tried to find which was my account number but I couldn't find it . I think not visible Wink

you my friend are in the 1000s, so no point revealing it.. but i gave you $1!
i'm shocked no more takers.



40. Post 66570802 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Wed Apr 1 19:24:07 CEST 2026) in Maquina de cartão de crédito Square de Jack Dorsey libera pagamentos em Bitcoin!:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 09:54:32 AM
Mas é a mesma coisa com VISA: Ninguem te pede KYC em lojas, mas voce precisa de KYC pra ter um Visa qualquer pois ele está vinculado à um banco.

Muitos cartões cripto estão ligados a corretoras de cripto que pedem KYC. Daí funciona exatamente como uma venda em uma corretora, feita na hora que voce compra o item que voce quer na loja.

Mas aqui, pelo que percebi sem investigar, é que não é usado um cartão. Você tem uma wallet LN e faz o pagamento para os QR Code gerado na máquina. No final você está a pagar em BTC, como tivesse a pagar em fiat. Não existe necessidade de KYC.

O comerciante recebe fiat. E para todos os efeitos você não converteu BTC em fiat. Essa conversão é depois entre a empresa da máquina e o comerciante.



41. Post 66570654 (unedited backup) (by lodocus) (scraped on Wed Apr 1 18:46:25 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: lodocus on March 26, 2026, 06:55:26 PM
Even if it’s not worth a single dollar, as I said, it’s better than nothing. It’s pretty hard to accumulate SATS without doing anything else.

A few days ago, I lost all the SATS in my account and had to start from scratch. I realized I wouldn’t get anywhere just by saving up, so as soon as I exceeded the minimum limit, I started using my SATS to place bets.

And things are going pretty well Cheesy



I’ve reached a total of 7,971.36 SATS. I only have 3.76x left, and once I reach that point, I’ll have hit the minimum threshold for withdrawing SATS. If I make it there, I don’t think I’ll continue.

Quote from: Bitz_Casino on Today at 12:27:26 PM
We carefully reviewed all the entries on the "Flex Challenge" and turned out that the winners faked their screenshots, we'll announce new legit winners today Smiley

Can we still join? I think I can finally compete with bitmover.



42. Post 66570634 (unedited backup) (by serjent05) (scraped on Wed Apr 1 18:41:55 CEST 2026) in 🎲 BetFury.io|⚡️ Free BTC|⚡️ $3mln Dividends paid|⚡️ $200K Jackpots|⚡️ $1mln Cas:

Quote from: bitmover on March 30, 2026, 11:07:56 PM
I already lost a good amount of money trying to get back my losses.

I think majority of gambler experienced that.  Trying to win back losses ends up in more losses.

Quote
I once lost 0,03 BTC in a casino (when it was worth like 200 USD). I sent more 0.01 to try to recover it, and lost more 0.01!!

You are not the only one do such thing. I also experience losing my bankroll and topping it up several times making my loses to balloon to 4x than my original intention of funds to use and lose.

Quote
If i just had holded it, it would be worth thousands of dollars today lol

True, but then we can't think of such a situation, especially when we are frustrated and want to recover losses.  Our mind is focus on recovering the losses not the future price of Bitcoin we are depositing for such purpose.



43. Post 66570206 (unedited backup) (by Rikafip) (scraped on Wed Apr 1 16:53:55 CEST 2026) in Brief monthly overview of the local board activity:

Quote from: igebotz on March 31, 2026, 09:36:47 PM
-57 is a big drop, but I really can't think of anything else other than most of them being out of sig jobs at that time, and others migrated to other local boards. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456516.2020 to farm merits.
I heard in the past about similar cases, forum members visiting local boards and pretending to be native speakers with the sole purpose of merit farming.



Quote from: bitmover on Today at 12:47:29 AM
Hello Rikafip!

Here is the updated race chart.
Thanks, its been updated!



Quote from: Daniel91 on Today at 06:46:47 AM
When will you share our local analysis in the Croatian section of the forum?
Tonight, or tomorrow morning at the latest.



44. Post 66569918 (unedited backup) (by Forsyth Jones) (scraped on Wed Apr 1 15:34:43 CEST 2026) in Maquina de cartão de crédito Square de Jack Dorsey libera pagamentos em Bitcoin!:

Quote from: mikel_012 on Today at 03:52:49 AM
Muitas lojas aceitam bitcoin mas quando perguntam ao dono ele diz que ninguém pagou com bitcoin em meses ou anos. Infelizmente é dificil de ver as pessoas usando bitcoin paga pagamentos no dia a dia Sad
O que eu vejo um erro muito comum desses comerciantes é vendo que ninguém compra com BTC na loja deles, eles simplesmente TIRAM bitcoin do site deles ou param de aceitar, porra mano, se vc parar de aceitar, ai que ninguém compra mesmo, não faz uma divulgação nas redes sociais, e quer que seu produto venda sozinho? PRA QUE  tirar o Bitcoin dos pagamentos, sendo que o custo é literalmente ZERO?

Quote from: bitmover on March 31, 2026, 09:11:37 PM
POS? É  a maquininha ne.

No final deve funcionar apenas com o app dessa square aproximando da maquina ne.

Eu acho legal a iniciativa. Mas so vejo vantagem se for sem kyc.

POS é point of sale, mas aqui no brasil simplesmente falamos maquininha de cartão, é tudo a mesma coisa, porém pode ver que na matéria não tem nada relacionado ao nosso termo abrasileirado "maquininha", então eu fiquei em dúvida: será que é uma maquininha?

Quote from: bitmover on March 31, 2026, 09:11:37 PM
Se nao eu prefiro vender btc na binance e gastar meu visa com cashback e tudo mais..

Uma coisa que esfa funcionando muito bem é o uso das stablecoins com cartao de crédito/débito. Principalmente em gastos em dolar.
Eu atualmente uso o cartão ether.fi, tenho 3% de cashback em todas as compras e 15% de cashback se as compras forem feitas em supermercados, restaurantes... eu simplesmente reabasteço ele com USDC e saio usando, muito bom.



45. Post 66569855 (unedited backup) (by Wapfika) (scraped on Wed Apr 1 15:17:14 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: bitmover on March 31, 2026, 11:43:49 AM
Holy smokes with that 100K sats just from the faucet.

It wasn't just faceut.

Those users probably had a much smaller amount. They bet and won, multiplying it many times. This is how people make money in casinos.

It would take years to accumulate 5k just in faucets...

I’m confused on this tournament. So they excluded deposits in sats for the count. I’m curious how they will count the profit made using the Bitcoin deposit while user still has sats balance on their wallet.

I just open again my account today, I received satoshi box before but I don’t remember now how can I access the faucet? Is this feature on reward center?




46. Post 66569717 (unedited backup) (by Bitz_Casino) (scraped on Wed Apr 1 14:27:31 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

We carefully reviewed all the entries on the "Flex Challenge" and turned out that the winners faked their screenshots, we'll announce new legit winners today Smiley

Quote from: Cyber_warrior on March 31, 2026, 04:01:42 PM
Winners announced. I didn't get anything. THe 3rd place had 40k sats! I had 5.5 K only

Since the 3rd position had about 40k and you have 5.5k then the third position should be given to you honestly, but did you follow the due process because all the participants were asked to drop thier screenshot of the accumulated SATS balance on Bitz io post in X and then tag the @bitz_casino_en since on 21st of this month. Check here 👇



https://x.com/bitz_casino_en/status/2038736758532170060
B-BossMan, what are you even saying. I don't understand you, I thought it was a sarcasm when you said that the 3rd position should have been given to bitmover, but reading it here again made me realize you are being serious.
What is the relationship between 40k and 5.5k and why should 5.5k be considered over 40K. Is there something you are not telling us or you simply do not understand how the challenge worked?

@Zoomic I understood how it works a little, I was just trying to explain his points, he said he have 5.5k, which I guess he was trying to say 55k, then definitely if it's 55k he should be given the position. My bad, I just noticed it was 5.5k he wrote.....Thanks for your observations.

And congratulations to the winners
You're misunderstood Bitmover's post. He wasn’t claiming he had 55k SATs instead he was just congratulating the winners and comparing his own SATs with that of the 3rd place user. His point was that if 3rd place already had 40k SATs then he didn't even stand a chance to win anything with his 5.5k SATs. The gap is just too much to catch up.

Bitmover with your 5.5k SATs you should be 30th place Grin Grin... You still ahead of me though. I only managed 1k sats.



47. Post 66569575 (unedited backup) (by criptoevangelista) (scraped on Wed Apr 1 13:26:32 CEST 2026) in Dados de merit da nossa aba local:

Quote from: joker_josue on Today at 07:01:09 AM
Queda grande de atividade , seguindo o trend anterior. Queda maior ainda no merit ratio.

Não esperava uma queda tão grande. Acho que o mês de Março vai pelo mesmo caminho.

Temos andam um pouco mais calmos aqui na aba. Talvez estejamos a fazer menos offtopic dentro de cada tópico.

Enfim, temos que nos animar, e começar aumentar mais um pouco a nossa atividade, mantendo a qualidade, claro.
Vou tentar pensar em algumas coisas.

Cripto ta meio em baixa, sequer temos novos usuários, sendo que no pseudo Hype do topo, tivemos uma meia duzia de dois ou três novatos aparecendo, acho que nós mesmos deveríamos no caso conversar mais sobre coisas off-topic, até mesmo dicas de coisas, empreendedorismo, experiências, sei la, qualquer coisa que seja, acredito eu que o fórum tem muitas pessoas na qual so abrem aqui para ler, e vendo assuntos diferentes do mundo cripto, pode ter a vontade de se cadastrar e começar a interagir com a gente... apesar do fórum ser o bitcoin talk, nada nos impede de conversarmos sobre o que quer que seja (minha humilde opinião)



48. Post 66569464 (unedited backup) (by Rappitman) (scraped on Wed Apr 1 12:46:13 CEST 2026) in Dados de merit da nossa aba local:



Quote from: bitmover on Today at 12:54:06 AM
Segue mais uma atualização mensal da aba local

Queda grande de atividade , seguindo o trend anterior. Queda maior ainda no merit ratio.



Fiquei bastante ausente no mes de fevereiro, vim pouco aqui, e acabei ficando de fora pela primeira vez de que me lembre dos top 5

Usuários mais ativos:

1. joker_josue [97]
2. TryNinja [38]
3. Forsyth Jones [34]
4. alegotardo [33]
5. criptoevangelista [33]




Vamos lá!! Cada dia aqui tenho dedicado um pouco mais de tempo ao forum....

Mas vamos falar o que importa... E essa cor?? Ficou muito estranho!



49. Post 66568930 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Wed Apr 1 09:08:20 CEST 2026) in Maquina de cartão de crédito Square de Jack Dorsey libera pagamentos em Bitcoin!:

Quote from: bitmover on March 31, 2026, 09:11:37 PM
Que diabos é POS? É  a maquininha ne.

O POS é outro nome usado para o TPA, a maquina que se usa nas lojas para fazer os pagamentos com cartão.

Eu não fui analisar o projeto, mas duvido que exista KYC, porque no final esta a comprar um produto num loja e ainda não nos pedem KYC numa loja.  Cheesy



50. Post 66568916 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Wed Apr 1 09:01:13 CEST 2026) in Dados de merit da nossa aba local:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 12:54:06 AM
Queda grande de atividade , seguindo o trend anterior. Queda maior ainda no merit ratio.

Não esperava uma queda tão grande. Acho que o mês de Março vai pelo mesmo caminho.

Temos andam um pouco mais calmos aqui na aba. Talvez estejamos a fazer menos offtopic dentro de cada tópico.

Enfim, temos que nos animar, e começar aumentar mais um pouco a nossa atividade, mantendo a qualidade, claro.
Vou tentar pensar em algumas coisas.



51. Post 66568465 (unedited backup) (by alegotardo) (scraped on Wed Apr 1 03:38:37 CEST 2026) in Dados de merit da nossa aba local:

Quem que ativou o modo IA do ninja de novo? Nem eh primeiro de abril ainda , puts... Pior que no UTC eh sim

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Quote from: bitmover on Today at 12:54:06 AM
Fiquei bastante ausente no mes de fevereiro, vim pouco aqui, e acabei ficando de fora pela primeira vez de que me lembre dos top 5

Bem que eu estranhei estar no TOP3, tá explicado agora.
Bom. Momento de recuperar a atividade da aba local.



52. Post 66568241 (unedited backup) (by criptoevangelista) (scraped on Wed Apr 1 01:31:49 CEST 2026) in Preço não para de cair. Nada mais pode ser feito.:

Quote from: sabotag3x on Today at 04:00:33 PM
Nossa 30k?

Eu diria que 50k é possivel mas ja seria um banho de sangue terrivel!! Tambem nao acho provável 50k, mas pode ser..

Também acho 30k muito improvável no curto prazo.. só se o Fed subir os juros lá nos EUA por conta do petróleo.. mas parece que nenhum país está interessado em apoiar o Trump, então logo tudo volta ao normal no Oriente Médio.

O problema é que esse bear market vai longe ainda, igual os outros.. 2027, 2028 surge algum novo FUD gigante como China vs Taiwan que o @criptoevangelista mencionou.

O topo foi a pouquissimo tempo, não deu nem para esfriar o cadáver do bitcoin para voltar a  subir novamente, sequer temos noticias de quebras, caos, empresas falindo, corretoras quebrando, coisas que normalmente acontecem no bear, ta mais para um inicio de bear... ainda acho o preço muito ruim no risco retorno, as pessoas pensam em multiplicação de pelo menos algumas vezes, nesse patamar atual, multiplicamos poucas vezes o capital se voltar ao topo, claro, são apenas teorias... mas você não ve ninguem com medo do bitcoin cair, isso que me deixa com a pulga atras da orelha de que não é fundo.



53. Post 66567406 (unedited backup) (by Zwei) (scraped on Tue Mar 31 21:01:02 CEST 2026) in CryptoCasinos.ai - My new review project:

Quote from: bitmover on March 30, 2026, 05:31:07 PM
So many new review services showing up recently!
same with new casinos popping up everyday, everyone wants to get a piece of the cake, lol.

Quote from: Jake_CCAI on Today at 09:18:48 AM
Think once again. Which option will these big companies rather choose:
a) Write 100% objective reviews -> Casinos get pissed off due to just average/bad reviews -> Review sites get only the basic 25% rev share deal. The review sites fear that average/bad reviews don't induce players to click their links -> Not so much affiliate revenue.
b) They write somewhat biased/a lot biased reviews -> Casinos are happy -> Review sites get very lucrative 45-50% rev share deals + CPA deals per each depositing player. -> Visitors click more affiliate links from good reviews -> A LOT OF AFFILIATE INCOME.

Of course no one knows the 100% sure answer for this and the true state may be somewhere between a) and b). And of course, it's a legit question to ask how my site does this. But the only way I can even succeed now in 2026 against these giants is to go fully a).
imo, a) is the better option if you want to build a brand that will be here after many years and have loyal followers.
review sites are supposed to be for the players, to give them the truth with 100% objective reviews, not to bootlick casinos so they can get better deals to make more money on the back of their users.

Quote from: Kavelj22 on Today at 05:02:39 PM
Since you are the owner, do you mind share info about your app monetization and how you are willing to generate profits from it?
it's an affiliate site, so it's monetized by players using their affiliate links to signup on casinos, and depending on the deals they have, they will either be making money from revshare or maybe CPA too.



54. Post 66567083 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Tue Mar 31 19:29:43 CEST 2026) in Para onde esta a ir o dinheiro?:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 04:42:14 PM
Todos os ativos que voce falou sao ativos de risco: bolsa, ouro, bitcoin.

O dinheiro esta indo para ativos de baixo risco. Tipo treasuries bills, que sao os títulos dos eua de curto prazo,  e considerado o ativo mais seguro do mundo

Sim é verdade.
Mas o que me espantada mais é o outro estar em queda. Não é normal nestes momentos de tensão geopolítica e de guerras.

Agora é ver se as coisas vão continuar a sangrar, ou se pelo menos fica estabilizados.



55. Post 66566889 (unedited backup) (by Rikafip) (scraped on Tue Mar 31 18:30:31 CEST 2026) in Brief monthly overview of the local board activity:

Time for yet another brief monthly overview of the local boards activity, this time a little bit later than usual as I was travelling and its pain in the ass to do these kind of things on laptop screen alone. All charts and table are made using data from @DdmrDdmr Merit Dashboard and BitList.

Communities marked with * (Pakistan, Bengali) don't have their own local boards but are part of this overview nevertheless.



Post activity per local board during February 2026

During February, 12919 posts were written across local boards that are part of the overview, which is a noticeable drop compared to January's 13925. Majority of that drop happened on the most active board, Nigerian, whose numbers went down from 4824 in January to 3924 in February. Despite the drop, they are still by far the most active board, followed by Russian and  Turkish.




Active members per local board during February 2026

During the above mentioned period, 1335 members wrote at least one post, which is an expected drop compared to January's 1392. Unsurprisingly, majority of the drop happened on the Nigerian board. It would be ineteresting to hear from someone from their local board (maybe from their local sheriff Igebotz?) what has happened there.




Local board members per amount of posts during February 2026

When it comes to the percentage of members who wrote only one post in their board during February, leader is Indian board with 50%, while at the same time Croatian local board had only 14% of such members.

At the 2-9 posts bracket leader is French board with 52%, while Turkish was at the bottom with 36%.

Regarding the 10+ posts bracket, the leader is Portuguese board with 50% of such members, while French is at the bottom with only 5% of the members that wrote 10+ posts during last month.




Merit shared per local board during February 2026

During February, 7901 merit was shared across local boards which is a big drop compared to January during which 9717 merit was shared. This time noy only Nigerian  board is responisble for such a big drop, but basically all the more active and merited boards as well. Despite the drop, I think those are still pretty good numbers.




Merit/Post ratio per local board during February 2026

As it can be seen on the chart, despite the big drop of merit sent, merit per post ratio remained pretty high. Well, at least on the majorify of the boards, while some like Greek, Bengali, Pilipinas and French are still struggling.




Merit senders and receivers per local board during February 2026

During the last month, 535 members sent while 615 members of local boards received merit, which is expectedly a drop compared to January (633 senders, 725 receivers)




Percentage of merited posts across local boards during February 2026

Once again Romanian board remained at the top of this chart, but this time with more realistic (but still very high) 45% merited posts, while Indian and Italian were just behind them. At the same time we have Greek board which is on par with Off Topic and similar boards.




Merit per transaction across local boards during February 2026

And the last in this series of charts, merit per transaction, that shows meriting habits of local boards.




The most active members per local board during February 2026

Last but not the least in this monthly overview, the list of the most active members per local board. mandown from Turkish local has been the most active member with 132 posts, followed by two member from Russian local, Julien_Olynpic  with 121 post and klarki with 119 post. GG guys!


Russian |German |Turkish |Italian |Portuguese |Spanish |
_________________|_________________|_________________|_________________|_________________|_________________|
1. Julien_Olynpic [121]|1. mole0815 [104]|1. mandown [132]|1. gbianchi [63]|1. joker_josue [97]|1. famososMuertos [32]|
2. klarki [119]|2. Lakai01 [66]|2. execijutiere [90]|2. Italian Panic [43]|2. TryNinja [38]|2. LUSUBY [32]|
3. safar1980 [113]|3. MaxMueller [54]|3. yenerbatmaz [72]|3. fillippone [39]|3. Forsyth Jones [34]|3. Hispo [24]|
4. Numeral [102]|4. Real-Duke [51]|4. Hvdv [61]|4. Plutosky [34]|4. alegotardo [33]|4. Don Pedro Dinero [22]|
5. xandry [96]|5. Soonandwaite [51]|5. kriminall [60]|5. babo [32]|5. criptoevangelista [33]|5. Porfirii [20]|
6. zasad@ [90]|6. cygan [49]|6. Mustang Shelby [57]|6. Ale88 [31]|6. Pumared [30]|6. darxiaomi [15]|
7. Alex077 [81]|7. willi9974 [47]|7. Phoenix Anka [56]|7. Paolo.Demidov [29]|7. sabotag3x [27]|7. danadc [13]|
8. mak013 [65]|8. Koal-84 [47]|8. MomusReign [52]|8. georgino22222 [20]|8. bitmover [27]|8. Crystal-Trade.org [12]|
9. tvplus006 [63]|9. MinoRaiola [47]|9. blomen [51]|9. *Ace* [15]|9. rdluffy [22]|9. Tete130 [11]|
10. internetional [62]|10. Unknown01 [46]|10. lodocus [50]|10. bitcoiner180 [12]|10. mikel_012 [18]|10. btc-marty [10]|

Indonesian |French |Pilipinas |Croatian |Nigerian |Arabic |
_________________|_________________|_________________|_________________|_________________|_________________|
1. Chikito [75]|1. rony_btc [14]|1. arwin100 [23]|1. slackovic [48]|1. Jubilee58 [81]|1. Kavelj22 [32]|
2. Husna QA [70]|2. winspiral [9]|2. julerz12 [23]|2. katanic97 [36]|2. Floxynice [74]|2. yhiaali3 [26]|
3. AakZaki [34]|3. Danydee [8]|3. cryptoaddictchie [23]|3. Daniel91 [29]|3. Africolo [49]|3. khaled0111 [24]|
4. taufik123 [33]|4. patrickus [5]|4. Fredomago [21]|4. ovcijisir [25]|4. Cleanshit [48]|4. OmegaStarScream [9]|
5. joniboini [31]|5. TryNinja [4]|5. tech30338 [21]|5. cryptofrka [22]|5. Yablee0 [47]|5. RedFlix [7]|
6. mu_enrico [31]|6. fpelu [4]|6. bhadz [20]|6. examplens [21]|6. Karl_3000 [45]|6. NotATether [4]|
7. masulum [25]|7. oscar2000 [3]|7. xLays [20]|7. Rikafip [21]|7. PremiumcryptoHub [41]|7. GxSTxV [4]|
8. Rashlyowl [24]|8. paid2 [3]|8. robelneo [18]|8. Pmalek [18]|8. Crypto_Timothy [41]|8. DireWolfM14 [3]|
9. Luzin [23]|9. gaelium [3]|9. coin-investor [18]|9. Trofo [16]|9. Charles-Tim [37]|9. Ochan_yazo_tochant [3]|
10. MAAManda [18]|10. Botchain [3]|10. GreatArkansas [18]|10. dkbit98 [16]|10. Mr Reporter [36]|10. hugeblack [2]|

Polish |Indian |Greek |Romanian |Pakistan* |Bengali* |
_________________|_________________|_________________|_________________|_________________|_________________|
1. cygan [12]|1. JSRAW [32]|1. cryptosize [36]|1. NeuroticFish [23]|1. qurbanshah02 [38]|1. Bd officer [17]|
2. pawel7777 [4]|2. Bitcoin Smith [26]|2. BlackHatCoiner [20]|2. GazetaBitcoin [11]|2. ZAINmalik75 [36]|2. DYING_S0UL [11]|
3. TryNinja [4]|3. vivekdhyani1 [22]|3. alani123 [12]|3. Botchain [5]|3. JunaidAzizi [34]|3. Crypto Library [7]|
4. kazikbalaganiarz [3]|4. pawanjain [20]|4. Ultegra134 [5]|4. TryNinja [4]|4. MusaPk [20]|4. Shishir99 [7]|
5. Judicar [1]|5. TheUltraElite [8]|5. BitcoinsGreece [2]|5. b1ack [3]|5. Rustam Meraj [20]|5. B2Z [3]|
6. stwenhao [1]|6. Cointikka [5]|6. whoismeanyway [2]|6. isidor44 [3]|6. HustleZ [18]|6. Hridyansh Labs [2]|
7. cryptdar88 [1]|7. henmark [4]|7. WebMonero [2]|7. UsdtBucuresti [2]|7. Faisal2202 [16]|7. Mahiyammahi [2]|
|8. IIrik11 [4]|8. bxcxsdfg [1]|8. max2000irc [1]|8. BTC FutureKing [13]|8. Btcloop [1]|
|9. M47AK16 [3]| |9. othell_rogue [1]|9. Jaweria parveen [13]|9. Comando65 [1]|
|10. Rahulkirford [3]| |10. Razvan_BTC [1]|10. Publictalk792 [12]|10. Morshedbns [1]|



56. Post 66566772 (unedited backup) (by Cyber_warrior) (scraped on Tue Mar 31 18:01:43 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: B-BossMan on Today at 12:25:08 PM
Winners announced. I didn't get anything. THe 3rd place had 40k sats! I had 5.5 K only

Since the 3rd position had about 40k and you have 5.5k then the third position should be given to you honestly, but did you follow the due process because all the participants were asked to drop thier screenshot of the accumulated SATS balance on Bitz io post in X and then tag the @bitz_casino_en since on 21st of this month. Check here 👇



https://x.com/bitz_casino_en/status/2038736758532170060
B-BossMan, what are you even saying. I don't understand you, I thought it was a sarcasm when you said that the 3rd position should have been given to bitmover, but reading it here again made me realize you are being serious.
What is the relationship between 40k and 5.5k and why should 5.5k be considered over 40K. Is there something you are not telling us or you simply do not understand how the challenge worked?

@Zoomic I understood how it works a little, I was just trying to explain his points, he said he have 5.5k, which I guess he was trying to say 55k, then definitely if it's 55k he should be given the position. My bad, I just noticed it was 5.5k he wrote.....Thanks for your observations.

And congratulations to the winners
You're misunderstood Bitmover's post. He wasn’t claiming he had 55k SATs instead he was just congratulating the winners and comparing his own SATs with that of the 3rd place user. His point was that if 3rd place already had 40k SATs then he didn't even stand a chance to win anything with his 5.5k SATs. The gap is just too much to catch up.

Bitmover with your 5.5k SATs you should be 30th place Grin Grin... You still ahead of me though. I only managed 1k sats.



57. Post 66566760 (unedited backup) (by sabotag3x) (scraped on Tue Mar 31 18:00:37 CEST 2026) in Preço não para de cair. Nada mais pode ser feito.:

Quote from: bitmover on Today at 01:57:41 PM
Nossa 30k?

Eu diria que 50k é possivel mas ja seria um banho de sangue terrivel!! Tambem nao acho provável 50k, mas pode ser..

Também acho 30k muito improvável no curto prazo.. só se o Fed subir os juros lá nos EUA por conta do petróleo.. mas parece que nenhum país está interessado em apoiar o Trump, então logo tudo volta ao normal no Oriente Médio.

O problema é que esse bear market vai longe ainda, igual os outros.. 2027, 2028 surge algum novo FUD gigante como China vs Taiwan que o @criptoevangelista mencionou.



58. Post 66565999 (unedited backup) (by B-BossMan) (scraped on Tue Mar 31 14:25:08 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: Zoomic on Today at 12:12:29 PM
Winners announced. I didn't get anything. THe 3rd place had 40k sats! I had 5.5 K only

Since the 3rd position had about 40k and you have 5.5k then the third position should be given to you honestly, but did you follow the due process because all the participants were asked to drop thier screenshot of the accumulated SATS balance on Bitz io post in X and then tag the @bitz_casino_en since on 21st of this month. Check here 👇



https://x.com/bitz_casino_en/status/2038736758532170060
B-BossMan, what are you even saying. I don't understand you, I thought it was a sarcasm when you said that the 3rd position should have been given to bitmover, but reading it here again made me realize you are being serious.
What is the relationship between 40k and 5.5k and why should 5.5k be considered over 40K. Is there something you are not telling us or you simply do not understand how the challenge worked?

@Zoomic I understood how it works a little, I was just trying to explain his points, he said he have 5.5k, which I guess he was trying to say 55k, then definitely if it's 55k he should be given the position. My bad, I just noticed it was 5.5k he wrote.....Thanks for your observations.

And congratulations to the winners



59. Post 66565965 (unedited backup) (by Zoomic) (scraped on Tue Mar 31 14:12:31 CEST 2026) in 👑🏆👑BITZ.io Cryptocasino| 5 BTC Daily withdrawal | $1.5kk lvl up reward 👑🏆👑:

Quote from: B-BossMan on Today at 11:51:07 AM
Winners announced. I didn't get anything. THe 3rd place had 40k sats! I had 5.5 K only

Since the 3rd position had about 40k and you have 5.5k then the third position should be given to you honestly, but did you follow the due process because all the participants were asked to drop thier screenshot of the accumulated SATS balance on Bitz io post in X and then tag the @bitz_casino_en since on 21st of this month. Check here 👇



https://x.com/bitz_casino_en/status/2038736758532170060
B-BossMan, what are you even saying. I don't understand you, I thought it was a sarcasm when you said that the 3rd position should have been given to bitmover, but reading it here again made me realize you are being serious.
What is the relationship between 40k and 5.5k and why should 5.5k be considered over 40K. Is there something you are not telling us or you simply do not understand how the challenge worked?