Thanks for the reply
I will snap out of it when my positions turn green.
I bought several times on the way down from 100k€
Sofar you guys can celebrate - I am not there yet. The devalued $ scale will work out in the long run for a better bullrun on chart.

When it crossed 100k$ on 25. Nov 94k€
When it crossed 100k$ yesterday in € we barely touched 90k

I don't doubt it will happen eventually

Since there's only 3 users, we don't need bitmover's tool. Everyone is a winner.

Wow!  man this is massive, you luck went good on the bonus buy , so the winners from the bitmover tool get to share the winning?. I think this is an interesting contest.

Yes.

Sub $40k did not happen, and so you lost the bet.

You must owe me something, for all of that hassle.. .

Unless you want the time to keep going and you think sub $40k is still possible.


$69k

$99k

What is the difference?

It does feel a wee bit different.


People make the deflation bullshit claims so frequently, and it is almost retarded because of the whining narrowness of the vision. 

Essentially, my 0.63+ BTC buys way the fuck more right now as compared to what it bought in 2019 when BTC prices were bouncing between $3,200 and $13,880.  You gotta zoom out a wee bit if you want to appreciate that bitcoin is going up way faster than the dollar debasement is bringing the dollar down.  You can also look at the 200-WMA to appreciate the ongoing upward slope of such bottom indicator. 

Hopefully you are not over thinking these matters and trying to proclaim some kind of a gotcha that does not exist in bitcoin , even though it exists in many of the other assets that are barely appreciating at the same rate that the dollar is debasing.

Snap out of it SaintFlow!!!!!

Não seja assim 

Added 6 more days to my pushups, 90pushups perday in 3 sets (30,30,30) as usual.

My Entry:
100k,promise444c5,322,25850,2025-05-08

Observing :

Yes I have used this exchange several times in past.
They exist since 2018 and I never heard anyone complaining about them.
I would not hold any coins there or on any other centralized exchanges, but it is ok for exchaing and withdrawing coins.

It's abuse when you use something for a thing it wasn't intended to. When doctor prescribes you a medicine for your pain and instead you take it to get high, that's abuse. If you use Bitcoin for making transactions, that's fine but when you use it to spam the network to create shit ordinals, that's not fine and I think that we all understand it. Bitcoin was designed to solve the issue in modern payment system, it wasn't designed for transferring images. What Ordinals do is a total scam, they abuse the system by paying ridiculously high transaction fees to later scam people with JPEG files. Ordinals use the freedom of Bitcoin to harm Bitcoin.

But where was the "abuse". They paid for the transaction fee that they were willing to pay like any other use who would want his/her transaction to be in the next block, or not.

It's merely users not liking how other users use Bitcoin.

 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Os argumentos são de que essa galera dos NFTs vai encontrar outros métodos mais nocivos para armazenar dados arbitrários..

O campo OP_RETURN foi criado justamente para isso..

Antigamente o pessoal escrevia usando endereços inválidos.. (ex: 1sabotage315891235521, 1esteve318515890158091, 1aqui5123805129858921).. e isso fica pesado para os nodes processarem.

Agora estão dizendo que estão usando múltiplos endereços para armazenar os dados que não cabem em um único OP_RETURN, resultando num problema parecido.

Acho muito difícil que os devs anti-NFT vençam a batalha contra os outros devs e a guerra contra os NFTs.

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geez guys peer pressure much?
he put up a monster win.. it was like the 40th largest win (with regards to multiplier) ever on the site.

Bitmover- take the win, take the $1.. use it to rank higher next week.


Josh

There is no problem with having an alt account, besides there is no rule on the forum that prohibits having an alt account the only thing that is condemned on the forum is using an alt account to cheat in one way or the other aside that there's nothing else.

Of the account's you quoted some have alts but the difference is they made it public to the forum and it's actually the best way to have something like that and ensure it's genuine. Bitmover created a fee estimation bot a couple of months ago and it didn't stir up any unnecessary threads.

Falando assim vc vai levantar a ira dos esquerdopatas. 

INSS tem a meta de pagar salário mínimo a 100% dos aposentados num futuro bem próximo, se não der calote geral...não há e nunca houve esperança de sucesso pra esse sistema, é pura pirâmide, cada vez menos novos ingressantes, população envelhecendo e nascendo menos filhos por família, não tem como dar certo.

Looking at the current position (in comparison to others above) and the price attached to it are distractions, avoid them and be focused, you can do it. I will continue to check on the update because of you. I also checked through the direct link, you still maintain the 8th position with $1, it's a good thing, and a little more effort can push you through to 7th ($11).

Congrats buwaman! This is the best promotion you can make.
Are you trying to set the best record ever in l0tt0 casino? 
I had nice wins inthe past playing different games but I dont remember having such a big returns.

É pior que isso.
Acho que Portugal é um dos piores países para fazer investimentos.

Tens de calcular tudo antes de qualquer compra e qualquer venda, pois boa parte do investimento vai para impostos. E é melhor não ganhares dividendos, se não as contas complicam.

Eu vendo 1 ação do Santander e ganho 7$. Vendo um XRP e ganho 2$.
Para mim, o Santander vale muito mais.

O Bank of America tem um marketcap de $307.60 Billion USD.

Mas, voltamos ao mesmo, vendo 1 ação do BAC e ganho 40$...

É nesse sentido, que esperava ver o XRP a valer mais do que apenas 2$.

nice win! 8th place is solid.. too bad it wasn't a little more to take 7th! but it will still pay.. 8th-50th place get $1 for ranking.
as for the mirrors- no, but i can certainly look into adding one.

thanks for playing and posting! we have some great things on deck- i will update everyone in the next day or two.


Josh

BlackRock não é banca portuguesa. 

Mas, fui verificar no banco português, que talvez tem a melhor oferta de investimento. E disponibiliza 4 fundos ligados o bitcoin:
PROSH S BITCOIN
21SHRS BITCOIN
BITWISE C.BITCO
ISHARES BITCOIN

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Ok.  Flesh out a hypothetical then.  

Let's say that hypothetically, we have a relatively new guy to bitcoin, and perhaps he is in his early to mid 30s, and he has an income of around $30k, and over the 10 years he had been saving up, and so he has an investment portfolio of around $30k (mostly not bitcoin, like index funds), and so he already has an emergency fund.  In the last year, he had been fairly whimpy about bitcoin, and he was investing around $50 per week into bitcoin, and so over the past year, he invested right around $2,700 into bitcoin, and he built his bitcoin stash up to right around 0.03701 BTC (3.7 million satoshis).

This guys is thinking about becoming more serious about his bitcoin investing, and he wants to increase his DCA amount to $100 per week, and he also would like to take around $10k from his non-bitcoin investment portfolio and allocate that $10k into bitcoin. What would you suggest that such a guy do?  How should he go forward from here in accordance with what you are trying to proclaim as the better course forward?  Does this guy sufficiently fit in your category of a poor pleb?  Sure we could reduce the numbers, but we can still make the point with the numbers that I had listed.  Of course, we know that many poor folks have not built up a savings, yet the reason that I am describing a person with $10k available to invest into bitcoin, I am wanting you to say what the guy should do right now with such an amount..

He not only has $10k available, but he also has aw $100 per week amount that he is able to put into bitcoin, and surely his timeline for investing into bitcoin would be 4-10 years or long.. I would think that he would be in a good position after 4 years, yet with his current finances, he may well be able to reach some variation of fuck you status in 10 years.. which means that if he does not fuck things up, he may well be able to live off of his bitcoin investment, including potentially at a higher income rate in 10 years, and maybe even less than 10 years.  Another thing is that we maybe could project that we expect his income to go up between 3% to 5% each year, so that even after 10 years, his income may well double, so then his expected withdrawal rate would double so that he may well need around $60k per year in order to be able to sustainably replace his anticipated income in 10 years.  He also might prefer to increase his standard of living, yet that could be a bridge that he crosses or considers to cross when he gets closer to reaching his BTC accumulation goals 10-years or so down the road.


These are confusing discussions in regards to the idea of aggressiveness and the extent to which guys might choose to invest aggressively and then later to lessen the level of aggressiveness and then potentially start to cash out on his investment and/or continue to accumulate bitcoin even after having had reached target BTC accumulation levels.

I personally consider level of aggressiveness to go along with a sort of level of seriousness in regards to trying to accumulate bitcoin in a quicker way and perhaps striving to reach a BTC target accumulation level faster, and surely the target might be expressed in terms of how many bitcoin is needed, yet we are not even going to exactly know what 5 BTC might be worth 4-10 years or more down the road when we reach such target, so we likely would be aiming towards a certain quantity of sustainable income that would need to be generated based on the quantity of bitcoin that we had
accumulated, so if we are striving to keep our bitcoin rather than sell all of it, then we would likely be calculating whether we have enough or more than enough based on how much income we expect it to generate in a sustainable way.  

So, when we are trying to reach our target, we may well choose to be more aggressive in our bitcoin accumulation based on our wanting to reach our target sooner rather than later, so maybe we would like to reach our target in 8 years rather than 12 or 16 years, so we purposefully choose to be more aggressive in the amount that we are investing into bitcoin on a weekly basis... and so if we presume that our cashflow management is strong and our back up funds are sufficient, then we choose our level of aggressiveness in regards to how much disposable income that we have, so maybe instead of investing $100 per week, we may well vary our investment amounts between $50 and $250 per week depending on our cashflows, and maybe if we were to invest 4100 per week into bitcoin, then we might consider ourselves to be moderately aggressive, yet since we are actively monitoring and trying to maximize our investment into bitcoin, our weekly investment amount varies, yet we are striving to be as aggressively as we can without over doing it..

And so our level of aggressiveness ends up being a reflection in regards to how much we are prioritizing investing into bitcoin.  Whether that is 50% of our discretionary income, 80% of our discretionary income or even close to 100% of our discretionary income.  Any of those could be characterized as aggressive, and we can choose such level of aggressiveness based on our own priorities, and surely if we might be a single guy without too many obligations then we might have more abilities to choose to be more aggressive as compared with if we might have various other obligations that we might have to balance that might cause us to have to be less aggressive than what we would otherwise prefer to be.

There is no reason to consider that being aggressive in regards to bitcoin investing contributes towards more instability in a person's life and/or finances, even though any guy can be choosing his level of commitment to bitcoin.  The same is true when it comes from figuring out the extent to which the aggressiveness can be or should be tapered based on getting close or even exceeding the goals.  I do tend to think that there are going to be various points of reassessment, so that the level of aggressiveness is likely to taper off with the passage of time, and there may even be situations where guys are neither buying nor selling but just maintaining their BTC holdings, and perhaps even several years between ongoing buying of BTC until maybe some selling might be employed, and surely I consider that starting out with price based selling makes more sense in the earlier times of starting to sell and then later we might graduate into a phase of being able to sell at any time and not matter the price... especially in any of the scenarios, the sales should be coming out of the overaccumulated amounts, so there likely is a preference to make sure to reach overaccumulation status prior to engaging in sales of BTC.  

Surely any time that a guys chooses to sell BTC prior to reaching overaccumulation status, then he is running the risk that it is going to cost him more to reaccumulate the BTC that he sold, yet surely guys can do whatever they like, and sometimes it makes guys feel good t sell some BTC after they had been accumulating BTC for so many years, and surely for psychological reasons guys may want to take such chances because it makes them feel better and even if they are running risks of having to spend more to buy back the same quantity of BTC that they had ended up selling.


I don't really know about any specific discussions of the 200-WMA besides my own ongoing discussion of it, and sure maybe I don't discuss it well enough for it to make sense for others, so in some sense if you want to understand it's dynamics you need to pay attention to it.  Largely the 200-WMA is the Trade-weighted average of the last 200 weekly candles, so that makes it a measure of the average BTC price over the past 4 years (there are 208 weeks in 4 years).  You can specifically look at how historically the 200-WMA compares with BTC spot price at the website that Bitmover and I created about a year and a half ago.  

Part of my own point to emphasize the 200-WMA is that it ends up being a much more stable indicator of BTC bottom price, and the BTC spot price does not tend to go below the 200-WMA, except for short periods, even though between June 2022 and October 2023 (16 months) the BTC price spent a lot of time below the 200-WMA and it even reached 35% below the 200-WMA at one of the peak downward BTC price moves when the BTC price went to $15,479. So, largely the 200-WMA can serve as a bottom indicator and so even if we are buying and selling BTC at spot prices, we can still measure our behaviors, the valuation of our BTC holdings and even our strategies around where the spot price is relative to the 200-WMA... Another thing is that the 200-WMA has tended to ONLY go up, and even during the 16 month period between June 2022 and October 2023 that the BTC price spent a lot of time below the 200-WMA, the 200-WMA still ended up going up right around 20% on an annualized basis during that period of time, and yeah, the 200-WMA is not guaranteed to continue to go up, yet from my point of view it is a much more solid way for us to be attempting to manage our bitcoin holdings so that we do not overly sell too many bitcoin too soon and we make sure that we have enough BTC in terms of our own goals and to engage in sustainable withdrawal after we reach overaccumulation status (if we are able to achieve such?).   I talk about these ideas in my sustainable withdrawal thread too.


Sure, there could be reasons to continue to work and/or to leverage your labor, and so sometimes business owners can earn more by having and/or maintaining a business as compared to what they might be able to earn by working for someone else. Yet, if you reach a high enough bitcoin overaccumulation level that supports your lifestyle, then you would not have to work... but yeah, of course, it is your choice to figure out how to balance your life activities and if you believe that owning a business and working in such capacity is a way that you would like to spend your time, energies and money and including if you might consider that as a form of status and/or social interaction with your community that you would like to have.


Frequently we talk about holding 3 months or more of your expenses in your local currency or perhaps in some other stable form of currency, like the dollar, yet any of the fiats, including the dollar, are tending to decline in value, yet for emergency fund purposes, i tis good to be prepared for short falls in income and/or increases in expenses, that might end up interfering with your abilities to hold BTC if you are using BTC as your emergency fund rather than keeping your emergency fund in your local currency or some other kind of a fiat based currency that you consider to be relatively liquid and acceptable in regards to being able to use it on any of monthly your expenses.

It is more important for poor people to ensure that they have an emergency fund as compared with rich people who by definition will likely have various kinds of assets and access to funds that poor people do not tend to have unless they purposefully make sure that they have such funds in place so that they do not get screwed out of their investment due to their own sloppy cashflow management practices.


If you reach an overaccumulation status, then there is no need to sell large portions of your bitcoin in order that your bitcoin can sustain you, and so there are likely no needs to think about the extent to which you are in profits but instead think about the extent to which your BTC stash can sustain you at your chosen standard of living.. once your bitcoin reaches such level, then you likely are able to live at such income level in perpetuity a s long as you do not screw up your management of your systems... and surely the extent to which you might have age and/or health issues, then you may well choose to deplete your stash for those reasons, but if your BTC stash is otherwise supporting your standard of living, there would be no reason to sell bitcoin beyond  the employment of a sustainable withdrawal system that likely would mean that your bitcoin is likely to be gaining in value greater than the rate that you are spending it.

Of course, this thread is largely about how to accumulate bitcoin, yet surely we well need to know how to set our targets so that we know when we have accumulated enough and/or more than enough, and then at that point we may well need to know how to manage our BTC holdings once we have reached enough or more than enough, so yeah there could be a lot of ways that we end up selling too many BTC too soon because we wrongly presumed that we had gotten through our accumulation phase and we might wrongly believe that we had entered into either maintenance stage or liquidation stage, so surely it can be helpful to talk about how to know when we might have had reached overaccumulation stages and then how to deal with being at such a status once we arrive there.


If someone has lump sum amounts of money available, then that person has choices regarding whether to buy bitcoin right away or to defer based on time or based on price dipping (that might not happen).  It is not necessarily wise to defer, yet surely someone with greater sums of money has options and many normal people do not tend to have options for buying lump sums, so they tend to be better off to DCA.  DCA is not the right choice for all situations, even though it tends to be a very good way to ongoingly invest in bitcoin with money as it comes available - presuming that it is not a lump sum amount coming available.. so if there is a lump sum, then the person has options to 1) buy right away, 2) defer based on time (DCA) and/or 3) defer based on price (buy on dips).  All three could be employed when lump sum amounts come available such as a person who usually invests $100 per week into bitcoin and has a yearly salary of $30k, and maybe he had been investing into bitcoin for one or two years, and then all of a sudden, he has $10k come available to him.  To the extent that his emergency fund is already established, he might choose to put some of the $10k into each of the systems.


You are talking about trading and you are also talking about value in keeping money aside to buy dips rather than buying regularly... furthermore Wind_FURY was talking about ONLY buying during bear seasons, as if he could figure out when a bear season is coming, and many times newbies, including anyone in their first whole cycle of buying bitcoin are going to be much better off to be buying bitcoin regularly, persistently, consistently, ongoingly and perhaps even aggressively, rather than fucking around either trying to figure out if there is a dip or not or employing trading tactics.

Hopefully any newbies who are unable to resist the temptation to trade (gamble) are limiting their trading/gambling to less than 10% the size of their bitcoin investment (and without cheating by continuing to inject new money into their trading/gambling when it is not performing as well as their bitcoin investment that focuses on ongoingly accumulating bitcoin through buying bitcoin for 4-10 years or longer).

Uma coisa é ganharem dinheiro com o Bitcoin, outra coisa é dizerem abertamente que as pessoas devem comprar Bitcoin.

E nem toda a banca estará a ganhar. Em Portugal, desconheço a existência de ETFs Bitcoin. Por isso, aqui não devem ganhar nada, pelo menos de forma clara.

A questão era que tinha de ser em Euro. Pelo menos lembro de ler algo a respeito nesse sentido.

Mas, não explorei a fundo as regras para as stable...

His loud crying cracked me up> clearly, the campaign is paying off!

I topped off his negative trust to a nice even -10, hoping it soothes his nerves and eases the spasms caused by the reports that are about to wipe out his "source of income." 

I’ve added him to my ignore list > these fools exist only to disrupt and silence others so their scammy schemes can survive. But they won’t last long against this patient community.

Yeah, this thing will haunt me to eternity

Seems I will have to create more projects to get more positive trust

A USDC é que aceito seguir as normas do MiCA.
Que entre varias coisas, obriga a empresa da stable a ter dinheiro vivo como reserva em custodia de terceiros, e não só títulos do tesouro. Além de uma serie de procedimentos.

Pelas noticias que li na altura, a Tether criticou muito o MiCA, e mais tarde as exchanges começaram a retirar aos utilizadores europeus a USCT porque foi a ultima a mostrar alguma iniciativa em se ajustar.

Acho que é a Tether a lutar contra o mundo/UE. E agora começa a fazer essas aquisições na Europa (e não só), o que torna tudo mais interessante.

If bitcoin is supplementing your other income, then I am not sure why you feel that you need so much?.. ... but o.k. whatever, I will try to go along with you just for the sake of matters.

If you are 68, but you are planning to live until you are 93, that is 25 years, so surely we would have to plan that you are attempting to be perpetual with your withdrawal rate. or to make it sustainable until you are trying to deplete it... so yeah, right at this moment,  35 BTC currently has 200-WMA valuation of $1.633 million and a spot price valuation of $3.317 million, which would get you right around $163k per year as a sustainable withdrawal rate... and yeah, of course, there would be tax consequences in regards to withdrawing that much each year which would be nearly $41k per quarter or $13,667 per month.

I have a hard time coming up with any solution, since I go by the 200-WMA to figure out what is a sustainable withdrawal rate, yet you may well be able to sustain at a higher rate if you are not planning the amount to be sustainable (or perpetual), but even with that I would not feel comfortable projecting out 25 years to deplete the stash, but it is kind of funny since even a spot price cashing out of 35 BTC currently would get you $133k per year for 25 years, yet we likely realize that the $133k per year is not going to hold its value, except if you were to keep it in bitcoin and employ the sustainable withdrawal than that $163k per year would be sustainable in perpetuity and it may even increase over the years.

Surely, you have the problem of not being even close to 35 BTC, and yeah, maybe you have 1/3 of that or 1/2 of that, so it is hard to come up with any solution if you are proclaiming to need so much.. which I am also having difficulties believing that you would actually need that much since you already had described previously a couple of sources of income that you already have, so you supposedly need more than twice the current default entry level fuck you status salary of $80k per year? 

you are just high maintenance. .. or high maintenance wannabe...   

Oh by the way, if you were to already be at 17.15 BTC, then after about 3 or 4 years, without doing anything else except maintaining that amount of BTC, it is quite likely that the withdrawal rate of that 17.15 quantity of bitcoin will double in its dollar value.. which means that in 3-4 years, 17.15 BTC will be equal to $160k annual withdrawal in today's dollars... so there can surely be solutions for any guys who are planning in advance rather than proclaiming to need more BTC right now than what they currently have right now.

Even though bitcoin is a great investment, there still requires some planning in advance or at least accumulating in advance and erroring on the side of accumulating and holding of bitcoin, and not fucking around with trying to increase your stash by trying to trade it.


In recent times, I am continuously adjusting the quantity of BTC to be at the threshold quantity of BTC needed for a $80k per year sustainable income, and yeah surely at some point I will have to adjust the annual income or the withdrawal rate, and for sure, I agree with you that concerns about medical insurance coverage might also increase the amount to more than $80k, and also if this is the ONLY income for a single person versus a couple versus a family 2 adults and 2 kids, then surely the amounts might need to be adjusted upwards for each of those categories, and if I am thinking entry level, then I am not adding the supporting of extra persons as an automatic for the entry-level considerations... and yeah, that might be  a bit too conservative, yet I did double the amount in 2020 from $40k per year to $80k per year, so I thought that my adjustment upwards was sufficiently enough, even though maybe in a couple years I might need to adjust up to $100k or even to $120k as the default entry level fuck you status income... but I think that it is a bit too insensitive to the variety of salaries around the world to be considering that $80k is not a sufficient entry-level starting point.

By the way, 20 BTC currently gives you a sustainable and perpetual annual income of $93.3k, which perhaps if we assume around a 5% inflation/dollar debasement rate, then perhaps this year would be $93.3k, and then next year would be $98k, and then the following year would be $102.86k and then the following year would be $108k etc etc etc.  I think that bitcoin can accommodate those increases in the cost of living... though we still have to make sure that we are not engaging in other errors, which I have suggest that withdrawal rates have to be reduced if the BTC spot price is less than 25% above the 200-WMA, and I also suggest that advance withdrawals can be made based on BTC prices that are multitudes above the 200-WMA.. and so currently the 200-WMA is $46,650 and the BTC price is right around 103% higher than the 200-WMA, which discretionarily allows for the withdrawal of 5 months in advance..

And, so another point, would be that any of us who might have a certain target withdrawal rate, it does surely help that we have more BTC than the mere target income level BTC amount, since from my position it is better to have a cushion and to be withdrawing from the overaccumulated portion of our BTC so that we never go below the threshold level of BTC, and so if we have worked out our formulas and our cushions properly, we should end up withdrawing at a rate that almost guarantees that our bitcoin is growing in dollar values at a faster rate than we are withdrawing, even accounting for the inevitable debasement of the dollar and/or inflation..


I understand that several years ago you mentioned medical insurance as an obstacle, and surely you must be getting closer to being able to pull such fuck you lever.  Surely a few years ago we were talking about 60 or more BTC for threshold entry-level fuck you status (and sure we might have been wrong in the level of cushion that we expected to be necessary), and I surely have revised some of my own calculations in terms of my own thinking that sustainability comes from valuating our BTC stashes in terms of the 200-WMA rather than valuating in terms of spot price... but still given all of that, even if we might agree that $80k might be a reasonable default entry-level fuck you status, we might not be getting the same kind of information regarding how much extra we might consider that we might need in order to make sure that we have our medical sufficiently and/or adequately covered... whether that is an extra $10k per year, an extra $20k per year or is it some other amount that might be individually tailored.


It is difficult to know activity levels, and surely many of us might already know that we have some limitations that have become greater through age, and we cannot get some of that energy and flexility and resilience back, so surely there is value in pulling the fuck you lever sooner rather than later, yet each of us still have to decide based on a variety of factors, and surely it may well make a difference how much we might be tied down to one location, and even if many of us have tried to keep more than one location going as bases, but there can be a lot of difficulties to have more than location as bases, even if we might try to travel too, to the extent that we might not have a geographically based job that we need to maintain..


Today it is 17.15 BTC.. so yeah, it is dropping every day... which is amazing, and one of the great things with that tool is that we can look back at any particular date to see how the numbers change with time.  Two years ago today, the quantity was 30.731 BTC... that is about a 44.2% reduction in the quantity of BTC needed in two years.

Ниже приведена помесячная статистика за апрель 2025 года.

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5)	LoyceV	745 (в 100 транз. к 65 польз.)	154 (в 106 транз. от 43 польз.)	668 (макс. 669)
6)	vapourminer	664 (в 411 транз. к 152 польз.)	101 (в 56 транз. от 19 польз.)	613 (макс. 613)
7)	xandry	582 (в 137 транз. к 56 польз.)	82 (в 46 транз. от 21 польз.)	541 (макс. 541)
8)	NotATether	511 (в 63 транз. к 51 польз.)	254 (в 76 транз. от 41 польз.)	384 (макс. 386)
9)	klarki	386 (в 106 транз. к 51 польз.)	52 (в 35 транз. от 16 польз.)	360 (макс. 360)
10)	pooya87	376 (в 119 транз. к 80 польз.)	70 (в 46 транз. от 28 польз.)	341 (макс. 341)
11)	Welsh	312 (в 22 транз. к 19 польз.)	11 (в 4 транз. от 3 польз.)	306 (макс. 308)
12)	EFS	312 (в 93 транз. к 47 польз.)	18 (в 17 транз. от 15 польз.)	303 (макс. 304)
13)	Julien_Olynpic	283 (в 145 транз. к 51 польз.)	65 (в 56 транз. от 21 польз.)	250 (макс. 250)
14)	1miau	229 (в 28 транз. к 15 польз.)	4 (в 2 транз. от 2 польз.)	227 (макс. 228)
15)	d5000	258 (в 146 транз. к 81 польз.)	86 (в 50 транз. от 22 польз.)	215 (макс. 215)
16)	Igebotz	211 (в 69 транз. к 45 польз.)	19 (в 15 транз. от 11 польз.)	201 (макс. 202)
17)	philipma1957	246 (в 100 транз. к 62 польз.)	140 (в 81 транз. от 35 польз.)	176 (макс. 176)
18)	Xal0lex	177 (в 48 транз. к 29 польз.)	11 (в 6 транз. от 4 польз.)	171 (макс. 171)
19)	nutildah	246 (в 105 транз. к 82 польз.)	162 (в 69 транз. от 42 польз.)	165 (макс. 166)
20)	LFC_Bitcoin	209 (в 68 транз. к 28 польз.)	104 (в 46 транз. от 15 польз.)	157 (макс. 158)
21)	hugeblack	158 (в 60 транз. к 48 польз.)	22 (в 20 транз. от 15 польз.)	147 (макс. 147)
22)	CryptopreneurBrainboss	146 (в 87 транз. к 44 польз.)	22 (в 10 транз. от 10 польз.)	135 (макс. 135)
23)	bitmover	172 (в 91 транз. к 52 польз.)	88 (в 48 транз. от 30 польз.)	128 (макс. 129)
24)	The Sceptical Chymist	133 (в 30 транз. к 19 польз.)	16 (в 7 транз. от 7 польз.)	125 (макс. 125)
25)	NeuroticFish	130 (в 62 транз. к 29 польз.)	20 (в 12 транз. от 7 польз.)	120 (макс. 120)
26)	The Cryptovator	116 (в 48 транз. к 40 польз.)	6 (в 6 транз. от 6 польз.)	113 (макс. 113)
27)	Pmalek	160 (в 77 транз. к 39 польз.)	96 (в 76 транз. от 35 польз.)	112 (макс. 114)
28)	Buchi-88	111 (в 78 транз. к 29 польз.)	11 (в 6 транз. от 4 польз.)	105 (макс. 105)
29)	Vispilio	102 (в 53 транз. к 28 польз.)	3 (в 2 транз. от 2 польз.)	100 (макс. 100)
30)	dbshck	92 (в 23 транз. к 23 польз.)	0	92 (макс. 92)
31)	dkbit98	112 (в 72 транз. к 38 польз.)	51 (в 40 транз. от 23 польз.)	86 (макс. 86)
32)	Halab	94 (в 37 транз. к 31 польз.)	27 (в 11 транз. от 8 польз.)	80 (макс. 80)
33)	Hueristic	134 (в 107 транз. к 42 польз.)	115 (в 58 транз. от 20 польз.)	76 (макс. 78)
34)	Mitchell	77 (в 17 транз. к 11 польз.)	5 (в 5 транз. от 5 польз.)	74 (макс. 74)
35)	mikeywith	100 (в 24 транз. к 14 польз.)	53 (в 27 транз. от 14 польз.)	73 (макс. 78)
36)	mprep	80 (в 7 транз. к 7 польз.)	23 (в 4 транз. от 4 польз.)	68 (макс. 68)
37)	MaxMueller	95 (в 90 транз. к 72 польз.)	58 (в 31 транз. от 18 польз.)	66 (макс. 66)
38)	willi9974	88 (в 8 транз. к 8 польз.)	47 (в 13 транз. от 9 польз.)	64 (макс. 78)
39)	hosemary	83 (в 38 транз. к 25 польз.)	44 (в 24 транз. от 17 польз.)	61 (макс. 61)
40)	mole0815	56 (в 46 транз. к 30 польз.)	9 (в 9 транз. от 5 польз.)	51 (макс. 52)
41)	babo	59 (в 59 транз. к 17 польз.)	45 (в 20 транз. от 7 польз.)	36 (макс. 46)
42)	S3MKi	35 (в 1 транз.)	0	35 (макс. 35)
43)	krogothmanhattan	55 (в 11 транз. к 11 польз.)	41 (в 14 транз. от 9 польз.)	34 (макс. 41)
44)	shahzadafzal	51 (в 51 транз. к 19 польз.)	35 (в 11 транз. от 7 польз.)	33 (макс. 34)
45)	mhanbostanci	41 (в 16 транз. к 14 польз.)	16 (в 7 транз. от 6 польз.)	33 (макс. 33)
46)	cAPSLOCK	83 (в 15 транз. к 13 польз.)	101 (в 57 транз. от 19 польз.)	32 (макс. 38)
47)	Synchronice	36 (в 10 транз. к 8 польз.)	9 (в 6 транз. от 4 польз.)	31 (макс. 31)
48)	Jossque	43 (в 33 транз. к 22 польз.)	28 (в 16 транз. от 11 польз.)	29 (макс. 29)
49)	FatFork	33 (в 24 транз. к 14 польз.)	7 (в 5 транз. от 5 польз.)	29 (макс. 29)
50)	cygan	127 (в 33 транз. к 24 польз.)	196 (в 97 транз. от 42 польз.)	29 (макс. 30)
51)	Foxpup	31 (в 10 транз. к 8 польз.)	3 (в 3 транз. от 2 польз.)	29 (макс. 29)
52)	Rustam Meraj	29 (в 15 транз. к 7 польз.)	3 (в 3 транз. от 1 польз.)	27 (макс. 27)
53)	OmegaStarScream	38 (в 17 транз. к 16 польз.)	22 (в 13 транз. от 12 польз.)	27 (макс. 27)
54)	Compromise me	28 (в 17 транз. к 9 польз.)	4 (в 4 транз. от 3 польз.)	26 (макс. 26)
55)	stwenhao	53 (в 53 транз. к 35 польз.)	55 (в 22 транз. от 12 польз.)	25 (макс. 25)
56)	mmgen-py	28 (в 10 транз. к 6 польз.)	7 (в 3 транз. от 2 польз.)	24 (макс. 24)
57)	Hhampuz	56 (в 15 транз. к 13 польз.)	66 (в 42 транз. от 32 польз.)	23 (макс. 29)
58)	Youngrebel	42 (в 13 транз. к 9 польз.)	40 (в 14 транз. от 12 польз.)	22 (макс. 26)
59)	Husna QA	28 (в 8 транз. к 7 польз.)	11 (в 7 транз. от 6 польз.)	22 (макс. 22)
60)	AlcoHoDL	85 (в 42 транз. к 19 польз.)	127 (в 56 транз. от 16 польз.)	21 (макс. 21)
61)	Steamtyme	21 (в 3 транз. к 3 польз.)	0	21 (макс. 21)
62)	execijutiere	34 (в 33 транз. к 25 польз.)	27 (в 27 транз. от 20 польз.)	20 (макс. 21)
63)	Cyrus	69 (в 43 транз. к 36 польз.)	100 (в 29 транз. от 14 польз.)	19 (макс. 19)
64)	DdmrDdmr	18 (в 7 транз. к 7 польз.)	0	18 (макс. 18)
65)	SuperBitMan	31 (в 11 транз. к 8 польз.)	27 (в 13 транз. от 7 польз.)	17 (макс. 19)
66)	MK-74	26 (в 25 транз. к 19 польз.)	18 (в 16 транз. от 14 польз.)	17 (макс. 23)
67)	Farhan99	29 (в 17 транз. к 7 польз.)	25 (в 13 транз. от 9 польз.)	16 (макс. 16)
68)	Bazzu	19 (в 15 транз. к 12 польз.)	6 (в 6 транз. от 6 польз.)	16 (макс. 16)
69)	Frankolala	17 (в 6 транз. к 5 польз.)	1	16 (макс. 16)
70)	Cricktor	56 (в 47 транз. к 35 польз.)	80 (в 35 транз. от 21 польз.)	16 (макс. 28)
71)	I_Anime	24 (в 16 транз. к 13 польз.)	17 (в 9 транз. от 5 польз.)	15 (макс. 15)
72)	MrMojoRising26	24 (в 6 транз. к 6 польз.)	17 (в 5 транз. от 5 польз.)	15 (макс. 19)
73)	Balmain	28 (в 24 транз. к 16 польз.)	26 (в 15 транз. от 10 польз.)	15 (макс. 15)
74)	Lucius	31 (в 30 транз. к 25 польз.)	31 (в 22 транз. от 13 польз.)	15 (макс. 18)
75)	Mallampue	24 (в 24 транз. к 24 польз.)	20 (в 20 транз. от 20 польз.)	14 (макс. 14)
76)	ITExpert	21 (в 14 транз. к 5 польз.)	14 (в 8 транз. от 6 польз.)	14 (макс. 14)
77)	minerjones	15 (в 5 транз. к 4 польз.)	2 (в 2 транз. от 2 польз.)	14 (макс. 15)
78)	Hazink	34 (в 15 транз. к 14 польз.)	42 (в 17 транз. от 12 польз.)	13 (макс. 13)
79)	Akbarkoe	20 (в 20 транз. к 20 польз.)	13 (в 13 транз. от 13 польз.)	13 (макс. 20)
80)	cryptoWODL	14 (в 10 транз. к 9 польз.)	2 (в 2 транз. от 2 польз.)	13 (макс. 13)
81)	GazetaBitcoin	51 (в 27 транз. к 13 польз.)	76 (в 26 транз. от 10 польз.)	13 (макс. 19)
82)	Zadicar	13 (в 11 транз. к 4 польз.)	0	13 (макс. 13)
83)	hisslyness	42 (в 13 транз. к 9 польз.)	58 (в 19 транз. от 13 польз.)	13 (макс. 13)
84)	reefsea	19 (в 19 транз. к 18 польз.)	13 (в 13 транз. от 13 польз.)	12 (макс. 18)
85)	icebar	12 (в 5 транз. к 4 польз.)	0	12 (макс. 12)
86)	EL MOHA	12 (в 9 транз. к 6 польз.)	0	12 (макс. 12)
87)	ginsan	33 (в 33 транз. к 30 польз.)	41 (в 41 транз. от 32 польз.)	12 (макс. 14)
88)	Lakai01	37 (в 29 транз. к 16 польз.)	50 (в 37 транз. от 16 польз.)	12 (макс. 17)
89)	BigBos	18 (в 18 транз. к 18 польз.)	13 (в 13 транз. от 12 польз.)	11 (макс. 13)
90)	apogio	57 (в 49 транз. к 28 польз.)	93 (в 45 транз. от 20 польз.)	10 (макс. 11)
91)	Dickiy	13 (в 13 транз. к 13 польз.)	6 (в 6 транз. от 6 польз.)	10 (макс. 11)
92)	Unknown Op	17 (в 11 транз. к 5 польз.)	13 (в 5 транз. от 4 польз.)	10 (макс. 15)
93)	KiaKia	22 (в 9 транз. к 7 польз.)	23 (в 11 транз. от 10 польз.)	10 (макс. 10)
94)	Cryptogreatdane	10 (в 1 транз.)	0	10 (макс. 10)
95)	heslo	10 (в 1 транз.)	0	10 (макс. 10)
96)	Reynaldo	11 (в 10 транз. к 10 польз.)	1	10 (макс. 10)
97)	lizarder	19 (в 19 транз. к 18 польз.)	18 (в 18 транз. от 16 польз.)	10 (макс. 10)
98)	Unknown01	13 (в 13 транз. к 9 польз.)	5 (в 5 транз. от 4 польз.)	10 (макс. 11)
99)	gbianchi	20 (в 1 транз.)	19 (в 7 транз. от 3 польз.)	10 (макс. 12)
100)	bitbollo	30 (в 25 транз. к 21 польз.)	40 (в 14 транз. от 9 польз.)	10 (макс. 13)
101)	Proty	32 (в 14 транз. к 9 польз.)	45 (в 17 транз. от 10 польз.)	9 (макс. 21)
102)	CY4NiDE	9 (в 4 транз. к 3 польз.)	0	9 (макс. 9)
103)	Zigabel	15 (в 6 транз. к 5 польз.)	11 (в 5 транз. от 3 польз.)	9 (макс. 9)
104)	dewez	14 (в 5 транз. к 5 польз.)	10 (в 8 транз. от 4 польз.)	9 (макс. 11)
105)	Hvdv	19 (в 19 транз. к 15 польз.)	20 (в 19 транз. от 19 польз.)	9 (макс. 9)
106)	mamesso	9 (в 3 транз. к 3 польз.)	0	9 (макс. 9)
107)	hyudien	15 (в 15 транз. к 15 польз.)	11 (в 10 транз. от 10 польз.)	9 (макс. 9)
108)	Saint-loup	10 (в 9 транз. к 6 польз.)	1	9 (макс. 10)
109)	NurseHub	8 (в 4 транз. к 4 польз.)	0	8 (макс. 8)
110)	junder	11 (в 11 транз. к 11 польз.)	5 (в 5 транз. от 5 польз.)	8 (макс. 11)
111)	Nalain420	13 (в 11 транз. к 9 польз.)	9 (в 6 транз. от 6 польз.)	8 (макс. 8)
112)	citb0in	8 (в 7 транз. к 5 польз.)	0	8 (макс. 8)
113)	348Judah	10 (в 4 транз. к 3 польз.)	3 (в 3 транз. от 1 польз.)	8 (макс. 9)
114)	baeva	18 (в 11 транз. к 9 польз.)	20 (в 13 транз. от 6 польз.)	8 (макс. 8)
115)	Alex077	24 (в 17 транз. к 8 польз.)	32 (в 15 транз. от 5 польз.)	8 (макс. 8)
116)	m2017	14 (в 13 транз. к 10 польз.)	11 (в 9 транз. от 7 польз.)	8 (макс. 8)
117)	Lafu	47 (в 43 транз. к 24 польз.)	77 (в 20 транз. от 11 польз.)	8 (макс. 8)
118)	bigmanik	7 (в 1 транз.)	0	7 (макс. 7)
119)	Nanga Parbat	22 (в 13 транз. к 8 польз.)	30 (в 18 транз. от 8 польз.)	7 (макс. 10)
120)	Adiljutt156	21 (в 12 транз. к 7 польз.)	27 (в 11 транз. от 7 польз.)	7 (макс. 7)
121)	Egii Nna	12 (в 12 транз. к 5 польз.)	10 (в 7 транз. от 5 польз.)	7 (макс. 7)
122)	Ambatman	23 (в 20 транз. к 17 польз.)	32 (в 21 транз. от 17 польз.)	7 (макс. 12)
123)	Hatchy	15 (в 12 транз. к 12 польз.)	16 (в 7 транз. от 7 польз.)	7 (макс. 7)
124)	Gallar	13 (в 13 транз. к 13 польз.)	11 (в 11 транз. от 9 польз.)	7 (макс. 9)
125)	Silence Scream	13 (в 13 транз. к 10 польз.)	12 (в 12 транз. от 10 польз.)	7 (макс. 7)
126)	W Jr.	10 (в 10 транз. к 9 польз.)	6 (в 6 транз. от 6 польз.)	7 (макс. 7)
127)	ZAINmalik75	18 (в 12 транз. к 7 польз.)	22 (в 14 транз. от 7 польз.)	7 (макс. 8)
128)	Oshosondy	8 (в 5 транз. к 5 польз.)	2 (в 2 транз. от 2 польз.)	7 (макс. 7)
129)	kawetsriyanto	9 (в 9 транз. к 9 польз.)	4 (в 4 транз. от 4 польз.)	7 (макс. 8)
130)	Csmiami	8 (в 3 транз. к 3 польз.)	1	7 (макс. 8)
131)	Ale88	25 (в 15 транз. к 5 польз.)	35 (в 13 транз. от 3 польз.)	7 (макс. 11)
132)	tusandii	7 (в 7 транз. к 7 польз.)	0	7 (макс. 7)
133)	Real-Duke	20 (в 20 транз. к 15 польз.)	25 (в 20 транз. от 11 польз.)	7 (макс. 12)
134)	dwyane36	12 (в 10 транз. к 7 польз.)	9 (в 7 транз. от 6 польз.)	7 (макс. 9)
135)	M47AK16	11 (в 7 транз. к 5 польз.)	10 (в 2 транз. от 1 польз.)	6 (макс. 6)

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В апреле 2025 года всего отправлено 19663 меритов (в 9878 транз. к 1380 польз.):

• 1% к Newbies: 256 меритов (к 125 польз.)
• 2% к Jr. Members: 312 меритов (к 119 польз.)
• 7% к Members: 1287 меритов (к 186 польз.)
• 7% к Full Members: 1460 меритов (к 128 польз.)
• 12% к Sr. Members: 2354 меритов (к 204 польз.)
• 12% к Hero Members: 2431 меритов (к 261 польз.)
• 59% к Legendaries: 11563 меритов (к 433 польз.)

Общее количество пользователей на 1 мая 2025 года:

• 3091 Legendaries (1784 из них отправляли мериты)
• 3993 Hero Members (1816 из них отправляли мериты)
• 9283 Sr. Members (3321 из них отправляли мериты)
• 18649 Full Members (5898 из них отправляли мериты)
• 33352 Members (10147 из них отправляли мериты)
• 26829 Jr. Members (3152 из них отправляли мериты)
• около трёх миллионов новичков

Ниже приведена помесячная статистика за март 2025 года.

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	Имя пользователя	Отправлено меритов	Получено меритов	Щедрость
1)	El duderino_	1027 (в 95 транз. к 43 польз.)	161 (в 76 транз. от 26 польз.)	946 (макс. 949)
2)	LoyceV	927 (в 136 транз. к 89 польз.)	200 (в 126 транз. от 53 польз.)	827 (макс. 828)
3)	JayJuanGee	836 (в 835 транз. к 287 польз.)	142 (в 85 транз. от 41 польз.)	765 (макс. 765)
4)	fillippone	864 (в 305 транз. к 103 польз.)	222 (в 129 транз. от 46 польз.)	753 (макс. 758)
5)	qwk	751 (в 16 транз. к 16 польз.)	15 (в 9 транз. от 9 польз.)	743 (макс. 750)
6)	vapourminer	619 (в 352 транз. к 144 польз.)	122 (в 77 транз. от 24 польз.)	558 (макс. 559)
7)	ABCbits	503 (в 221 транз. к 105 польз.)	150 (в 77 транз. от 36 польз.)	428 (макс. 431)
8)	xandry	424 (в 115 транз. к 40 польз.)	65 (в 36 транз. от 16 польз.)	391 (макс. 393)
9)	klarki	416 (в 122 транз. к 60 польз.)	73 (в 37 транз. от 15 польз.)	379 (макс. 391)
10)	Igebotz	300 (в 115 транз. к 66 польз.)	14 (в 12 транз. от 8 польз.)	293 (макс. 293)
11)	LFC_Bitcoin	328 (в 109 транз. к 39 польз.)	170 (в 77 транз. от 30 польз.)	243 (макс. 243)
12)	EFS	266 (в 115 транз. к 53 польз.)	47 (в 28 транз. от 16 польз.)	242 (макс. 244)
13)	pooya87	301 (в 81 транз. к 54 польз.)	126 (в 58 транз. от 29 польз.)	238 (макс. 238)
14)	Julien_Olynpic	260 (в 127 транз. к 54 польз.)	62 (в 45 транз. от 23 польз.)	229 (макс. 229)
15)	NeuroticFish	227 (в 107 транз. к 39 польз.)	50 (в 36 транз. от 17 польз.)	202 (макс. 202)
16)	hugeblack	202 (в 78 транз. к 63 польз.)	26 (в 21 транз. от 15 польз.)	189 (макс. 191)
17)	Vispilio	186 (в 49 транз. к 24 польз.)	12 (в 4 транз. от 4 польз.)	180 (макс. 180)
18)	d5000	275 (в 163 транз. к 86 польз.)	189 (в 99 транз. от 46 польз.)	180 (макс. 182)
19)	Xal0lex	172 (в 43 транз. к 32 польз.)	14 (в 5 транз. от 5 польз.)	165 (макс. 165)
20)	Pmalek	209 (в 101 транз. к 51 польз.)	97 (в 73 транз. от 29 польз.)	160 (макс. 160)
21)	The Sceptical Chymist	154 (в 38 транз. к 30 польз.)	5 (в 5 транз. от 4 польз.)	151 (макс. 151)
22)	1miau	165 (в 76 транз. к 24 польз.)	63 (в 7 транз. от 7 польз.)	133 (макс. 147)
23)	The Cryptovator	144 (в 31 транз. к 25 польз.)	32 (в 22 транз. от 21 польз.)	128 (макс. 130)
24)	CryptopreneurBrainboss	153 (в 71 транз. к 34 польз.)	51 (в 13 транз. от 11 польз.)	127 (макс. 127)
25)	dkbit98	148 (в 87 транз. к 43 польз.)	55 (в 35 транз. от 18 польз.)	120 (макс. 120)
26)	nutildah	180 (в 108 транз. к 64 польз.)	137 (в 74 транз. от 41 польз.)	111 (макс. 114)
27)	paxmao	103 (в 20 транз. к 10 польз.)	1	102 (макс. 102)
28)	mikeywith	140 (в 37 транз. к 19 польз.)	82 (в 33 транз. от 17 польз.)	99 (макс. 99)
29)	philipma1957	137 (в 67 транз. к 47 польз.)	95 (в 50 транз. от 26 польз.)	89 (макс. 89)
30)	TryNinja	177 (в 99 транз. к 25 польз.)	198 (в 92 транз. от 39 польз.)	78 (макс. 79)
31)	Halab	86 (в 30 транз. к 26 польз.)	18 (в 6 транз. от 5 польз.)	77 (макс. 77)
32)	krogothmanhattan	112 (в 30 транз. к 23 польз.)	80 (в 25 транз. от 15 польз.)	72 (макс. 74)
33)	Mitchell	79 (в 23 транз. к 18 польз.)	20 (в 11 транз. от 11 польз.)	69 (макс. 69)
34)	bitmover	83 (в 55 транз. к 32 польз.)	32 (в 25 транз. от 13 польз.)	67 (макс. 67)
35)	CARIBBEAN_TREASURES	72 (в 13 транз. к 7 польз.)	35 (в 8 транз. от 4 польз.)	54 (макс. 55)
36)	mole0815	50 (в 50 транз. к 29 польз.)	6 (в 6 транз. от 5 польз.)	47 (макс. 47)
37)	babo	66 (в 62 транз. к 21 польз.)	40 (в 18 транз. от 8 польз.)	46 (макс. 46)
38)	cAPSLOCK	106 (в 17 транз. к 15 польз.)	122 (в 62 транз. от 23 польз.)	45 (макс. 60)
39)	mprep	40 (в 4 транз. к 4 польз.)	0	40 (макс. 40)
40)	Cyrus	45 (в 16 транз. к 13 польз.)	12 (в 5 транз. от 5 польз.)	39 (макс. 39)
41)	romero121	36 (в 19 транз. к 19 польз.)	6 (в 2 транз. от 2 польз.)	33 (макс. 34)
42)	Rikafip	59 (в 55 транз. к 26 польз.)	58 (в 28 транз. от 20 польз.)	30 (макс. 33)
43)	DdmrDdmr	31 (в 13 транз. к 12 польз.)	2 (в 2 транз. от 2 польз.)	30 (макс. 30)
44)	shahzadafzal	36 (в 36 транз. к 13 польз.)	14 (в 3 транз. от 3 польз.)	29 (макс. 29)
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You are brand new to the forum and you are giving advice?

You said that you waited for bitcoin to dip before you got started so you got lucky and you bought some bitcoin, yet the bitcoin price was not guaranteed to dip.

You are currently waiting to buy because you are waiting for more dip.

You are both doing the wrong thing, but you are giving bad advise, since it seems that you do not understand bitcoin.

It likely is the case that any newbie to bitcoin should get started sooner rather than later, and spend a whole 4 years investing into bitcoin on a weekly basis, and then perhaps to reassess at that time, so in the very beginning, there are guys who have various personal circumstances, but they can get started and assess their personal factors as they go, even if they might ONLY start with $10 per week, and then maybe at some point they might increase to $100 per week.  

Of course, if they have lump sum amounts that they can invest, they will likely need to consider the extent to which to employ any and/or all of the three buying strategies of buying right away or deferring by DCAing and/or buying on the dip (dips that might not end up happening). Surely if we are talking about an investment timeline of 4-10 years or longer, it is not going to make much difference if they start at $77k, $84k, $95k, $109k or some other prices.  It takes a long time to build an investment portfolio, and surely if anyone is getting into bitcoin and they already have an investment portfolio then they will be at an advantage, yet there are so many folks who come to bitcoin and they do not have any other investments, which is a nother justification to get started right away rather than delaying and fuckign around trying to figure out whether or not dip might or might not end up happening.


If you are brand new to bitcoin, you can get started and you can study as you go.  There is no need to lump sum into bitcoin in order to get started... there are also no needs to put a bunch of obstacles in the way, since the main basic thing to figure out before buying bitcoin is whether or not you have a discretionary income.  If you have discretionary income, then you are able to buy bitcoin, and your level of knowledge may well affect the extent to which you are aggressive or whimpy.. so there is nothing wrong with starting out more conservatively and then becoming more aggressive as you learn more about bitcoin, yet there is no reason to delay in terms of getting started.  

Of course, on a personal level you can choose to do whatever you like, and you are the ONLY one who is going to be responsible for your results, whether you buy too much or buy too little. If you start investing right away or if you employ a waiting strategy, even as a low coiner or a no coiner.  Worse consequences for low coiners and no coiners to fail/refuse to prepare for up and to  ONLY prepare for down (by waiting), especially newbies have no clue about whether the BTC price is going to go up or down, just like you did not know when you waited for the BTC price to go down to $78k, yet since you got lucky and you were able to buy at $78k, now you think that you know about bitcoin merely because you got lucky by waiting. That is called gambling rather than investing, and hopefully people realize that bitcoin is an investment, not a trade or a gamble.. but yeah, a lot of normies do not know about bitcoin, and that is part of the explanation for why we only have less than 1% of the world's population invested into bitcoin.


Hopefully you (and other newbies) are not overly employing waiting strategies when you should be buying BTC persistently, consistently, regularly, ongoingly and perhaps even aggressively.  You have to figure out your aggressiveness level and perhaps how much of your allocated bitcoin buys to hold back for dips.  I have already mentioned several times that I had suggested that newbies should not holding back with any more than 25% of their authorized bitcoin buying amounts for buying on dips.  So if they have $100 per week that they  have authorized themselves to buy bitcoin, then they should use at least $75 to buy within that week, and they can hold back $25 for buying on dips and to set their buy on dip parameters within ways that they consider reasonable for their personal fincial and/or psychological circumstances.

Newbies (and probably you too Wind_FURY) should not be trying to figure out the extent to which there might be a bear market coming or not, yet at least you, Wind_FURY, have been buying bitcoin for 9 years, so at least you probably have already accumulated bitcoin, as compared with guys who are still in their first whole cycle of BTC accumulation who likely need to stay focused on ongoing and persistent buying of bitcoin rather than fucking around trying to figure out if a bear market is coming or not.


You may well have to figure out what overaccumulation status means to you.  Yesterday, I attempted to give an example and to describe a situation that I consider to be one way of calculating and/or thinking about reaching overaccumulation status.


You are not going to live forever, and so if you think that you need to accumulate thousands of bitcoin and then take them to your grave, that seems a bit of a crazy way of thinking about bitcoin to accumulate it, but then not to benefit from your having had accumulated it?


You make no sense.  You sound like someone who is just thinking in the abstract, and if you were to have an income of $40k per year, and you were accumulating bitcoin at 25% of your income or some other high amount, after 4 years you would have had accumulated the equivalent of your income, and maybe if bitcoin does a 10x in price, then you have reached a status that you can withdreaw from your bitcoin an equal amount of your income and live perpetually on $40k without having to work for it... and let's say that you do not withdraw any of you bitcoin and you accumulate for another 4 years, so then you have 8 years invested into bitcoin which is $80k invested into bitcoin, and if bitcoin had happened to have had done a 10x then you have enough investment to double your income with an ability to draw $80k per year without working (which is twice your current income level).  Sure you can think of scenarios that you want to accumulate more, but at a certain point you might conclude that you have enough or more than enough because you can stop working and earn the same or even double your current income by living off your BTC.  

What are you going to do?  Live in a fantasy in regards to your wanting to continue to accumulate bitcoin even though at some point, you should be able to assess that you have enough or that you have more than enough.  Of course, I personally like to assess bitcoin value using the 200-WMA rather than spot price, so I personally would consider being able to withdraw your target income level off of your BTC investment once the 200-WMA reaches 10x or more higher than your target income level.



There is nothing wrong with that, but what are you going to do once the 200-WMA is at 10x or even 20x your target income level?  you going to keep buying bitcoin when the amount of your contribution is no longer causing your BTC stash to grow at any significant amount.  Let's say right now you have 25 bitcoin, yet your salary is only $40k per year, and so on a weekly basis you can ONLY buy around $100 to $200 of bitcoin, yet if you decide to start to live off of your BTC you could withdraw around $6,666 per month, and you can withdraw at that rate forever as long as you manage it well, but instead you want to continue to work and to buy $400 to $1k of bitcoin per month, when you have more than enough to live off your bitcoin at a rate that is 6x to 7x higher than the amount that you are able to contribute forever into the future.   Your contribution is not really building your bitcoin any more, but you still want to build it?  For what purpose?  

In 4 years, if you do not withdraw any bitcoin, then you likely could double your bitcoin withdrawal rate merely based on bitcoin's appreciation during that time.  

In other words, bitcoin's value is growing way faster than you can spend it, yet you want to keep adding to it with your meager salary?

Your seeming assertion makes little sense.


Again, you are making little to no sense... At a certain point you accumulated your bitcoin aggressively and then maybe you started to let off and to accumulate bitcoin less aggressively, and so maybe you wait and you are no longer really adding to your bitcoin, so at some point it might start to make sense to start to withdraw from it.. but hey, if you just want to admire it without doing anything with your  bitcoin that is your choice.
Once you figure out how much you need, then it is no longer subjective.  If you say that you want an income of $20k per year right now, then that would be right around 4-5 bitcoin, like you mentioned, and if you need $80k per year of income starting now, then you need 17.166 BTC and if you have 1 or 2 more BTC, then you have enough of a cushion to feel confident that you are always withdrawing from the overaccumulated amount rather than at any point selling too much BTC too soon.


That sounds correct.  Once you reached overaccumulation status, you no longer need to accumulate bitcoin, yet you still might have to figure out how you are going to manage your bitcoin so that you don't sell too much too soon.


I doubt the going aggressive on dips is a good plan.  People are able to go aggressive based on the strength of their cashflow management.  Sure anyone can choose to hold back more cash for buying on dips, yet I doubt that it is good for low coiners or no coiners to be holding back more than 25% of their authorized BTC buying amounts rather than buying right away with that money.  But, yeah of curse, each person can decide to hold back money for buying on dips, yet I would not necessarily consider that to be a more aggressive style than to just buy regularly based on having strong cashflow management practice.


If a guy with around a $60k per year income had spent the last 9 years buying $200 of bitcoin per week, then he would have had invested $94k and accumulated 24 bitcoin.  Surely, he would be in a position to stop working and to be able to live off of his bitcoin, and to draw $80k to $100k or more from his bitcoin accumulation on a regular and sustainable basis, since his 24 BTC would be worth more than $1.1 million at the 200-WMA and currently nearly $2.3 million spot price.  There should be no reason that the guy has to continue to work if he does not want to, so he has options..   He has the option to diversify too, and that is one of the great aspects and advantages of reaching overaccumulation status.. .options in regards to how to treat the overaccumulated amount of BTC.


This thread is about investing and not trading.. so sure guys might choose to trade (in other words gamble), but it is not really a topic for this thread.  

Frequently, I suggest to not trade bitcoin since it is a bad idea, yet there might be guys who cannot resist trading/gambling, and so I frequently will suggest that they don't trade any more than 10% the size of their bitcoin investment, and yes it can be difficult to resist the temptation, but if they can at least limit the amount, they will likely see that trading is not likely to be even close to as profitable of merely buying and accumulating bitcoin, especially after a couple of cycles or more.  

Otherwise your point about the long term seems to be correct in the sense that it can take a long time to build a bitcoin investment, even if we can attempt to focus on building our bitcoin holdings through various buying techniques.

Sim, verdade, ainda mais cartas em relação a cripto, hoje em dia não se deve confiar em mais nada a não ser que a gente veja que é algo bem seguro mas mesmo assim ainda se é bom ficar de olho em tudo que se envolve nossos dados, mas será se uma pessoa que não tenha uma conta na legder seria possível receber uma carta?

Eu fico imaginando, esses caras provavelmente obteram os emails e endereços daquele vazamento da ledger em 2020-21.. ou a Ledger deixou vazar novamente os emails, seja com o sequestro do co-fundador da Ledger ou em algum outro momento, se esses bandidos conseguiram os endereços daquele vazamento de 2020, os bandidos estão muito confiantes, pois já se passaram 4 anos depois deste vazamento e muitas vítimas já podem ter mudado para outro endereço e etc.

Imaginem o perigo que essas pessoas sofrem, os caras possuem até mesmo o endereço físico deles... correm até mesmo o risco de serem assaltados e/ou sofrer tentativas de sequestro se os bandidos observarem alguns padrões, seja por tentativa de phishing e outros e filtrarem quem tem mais BTC/Cripto.

Por isso que eu recomendo, ao comprar qualquer coisa relacionado a BTC, crie um novo email que você usará só pra isso.

Então, por exemplo, se eu nunca tiver recebido uma carta da Legder e do nada aparecer nos meus correios uma carta desta empresa pode ser golpe? Mesmo se eu já estiver uma conta, e no passe de mágica receber uma carta posso desconfiar?

O Brasil e a Europa... Com a entrada em vigor das novas regras para as cripto na UE, basicamente deixo de ser possível ter USDT, para os utilizadores europeus.



Sim, realmente é um bom ponto. Pode ser uma estratégia de conseguir influência fora do setor cripto, para ser mais fácil proteger os seus interesses cripto.

Será que em breve veremos mais investimentos?

Hm, nisam bas siguran da je to za Binance tocno jer je bitmover prije par tjedana (znavi puno poslije Bybit hacka) slao lovu sa eXch na Binance te nije bilo nikakvih problema.



E to je upravo to sto sam vidiona temi. Hvala!

Good topic, OP. But do you remember how many requests there were for a separate section on the forum to discuss security? I will just quote the collection of topics that @BenCodie very conscientiously selected. Just look at the collection of valuable guides, but they are unfortunately scattered throughout the forum, and I fear that your topic will also one day disappear into oblivion.

JJG just only gave an example of what over accumulation is so that you can understand but it seems that you don't get the point. Any long term bitcoin investor needs to have a bitcoin target which he plans and is working on accumulating in the long run. If you don't have a bitcoin target and just want to be accumulating, it might make you not accumulate aggressively when you can. In fact not having a target is an opportunity for you to slow down your accumulation state.

When you have a target and you have reached your bitcoin target but because you still have the opportunity, resources and time to accumulate more, you decided to continue accumulating to the point that you accumulated almost half the number of your initial bitcoin target. Also, you bitcoin target should a real number that you can meet up with and not big number that is impossible for you to achieve. Therefore, a poor man can plan to accumulate 0.025btc as his target and after reaching that amount decides to continue accumulating till he reaches 0.035btc. He has accumulated 0.01btc extra.

Both the reach and the poor can reach an overaccumulated bitcoin status but it's not all investors that will reach their bitcoin target in future due to some challenges as the price of bitcoin increasing overtime, talk more of reaching overaccumulation phase.

I wanted to use your 17.166 BTC number in my reply to Leahized, but couldn't remember it, and your link (in my bookmarks) defaults to 21 BTC (which is pretty close, actually).

I find the 10 BTC estimate above to be over-optimistic even for someone in his 40s, let alone a 5 y.o., in that there may be future situations playing out, that could affect the prospective growth of Bitcoin, so it's better to be on the conservative side when it comes to life choices like retirement, quitting one's job, etc., and there are other things to also consider, like medical insurance. Ideally, for me, the best scenario would be to retire at the earliest possible time (even on a reduced pension, due to an early exit), and then start spending your Bitcoin slowly and as needed, to sustain the lifestyle you want (which heavily depends on your wants & needs, LHB and all). In this way, you are secure (as much as a state can provide security) in terms of coverage of basic life needs and medical expenses, and Bitcoin adds the extra element of doing what you really want and dream of. So, to sum up, I'd say about 20 BTC (or 17.166 BTC in your calculation) is a better estimate to achieve this, at least for someone living in the USA or similar western country. Other countries may require much less than this amount, of course, so each one of us should do a personalized estimation, using your useful tool in the link above.

I must say that the older I get, the more eager I feel about pulling the fuck-you lever, even disregarding the medical insurance issue (which, paradoxically, should be more important as one gets older). I guess that, when we get older, we realize that life is more "finite" that we thought it was, and we begin to realize that there are only so many years that we will be able do the things we want to do, before old age starts having a debilitating effect on us. Bright examples like Phil and Jimbo show that there can still be many, many productive years ahead of us, but still, the feeling is there and getting stronger the more we age.

tl;dr: 17.166 BTC and getting smaller. I'm happy with that!

Nice point. But then, are we basing when to sell your bitcoin on over accumulation or on long-term basis? What you might see as over accumulation may not mean that for someone else. However, there's no true threshold as to when a bitcoin accumulation is termed over accumulation". If that be the case I think it would be more proper to advocate more about long-term hodling than over accumulation. A low income earner would never reach such level of 25.166 bitcoin or 17.166 bitcoin probably until death. So what is your yardstick for measuring over accumulation??

Also, a high income earner or entrepreneur could reach that "Your over accumulation" threshold in less than one year, does that qualify him to sell a part??

I sometimes get fanatic about slow and steady approach, DCA, because it works on both ends of long-term holding and possible over accumulation. A newbie could set his threshold at 1bitcoin in 5 years and spread through the intervals of weekly DCA. Someone else would be excited to achieve 1 bitcoin in 10 years. All what matters is knowing that you are accumulating bitcoin and that you are not selling off in panic and that you are also living up to your responsibilities. This stage of over accumulation may not really sit well among folks of low income earners.

Neste caso, se a Ledger nunca enviou uma carta, a partida é logo de desconfiar que é esquema.
Depois, é pensar com era o grafismo e organização dos documentos recebidos quando se comprou a Ledger. Se for muito diferente, tipo de letra, layout, etc, fica claro que é falso.

E como o bitmover destacou, se é estranho, é ir aos canais que temos a certeza que são oficiais, e perguntar.

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Old news.


That's why "we" cannot have nice things.


It does help to have some plausible deniability if others are wearing such paraphernalia. 

"I was just wearing such t-shirt, hat and underwear to be cool like dose dee udder peeps."


I knew that there was something a wee bit imprecise about the retirement projections, but I just could not put a finger on it.


trolling dee dude in his HODL sleep.

What did dee dude do to you?

Show me where he touched you?

 


A little retarded to not know where a guy stands in regards to due process rights.  We should all be worried if alleged "criminals" can just be wisked away and taken to other countries without notice and/or a right to a hearing.


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As of today, I consider 17.166 BTC to be the threshold starting point today for earning an annual income of $80k in perpetuity, yet it may well take a bit of decently good BTC portfolio management to execute such a sustainable withdrawal without screwing it up... so then yeah, younger people might not need very much income until they have to support themselves, so it seems a bit unrealistic to be considering those who are less than 18 years old as retiring (and/or supporting themselves) prior to age of majority 18 years or whatever that might be depending on location/jurisdiction.


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I would need 30-35 btc as  would like 175k a year from now til the end

now we all know I add corn but not at the pace to get to 35 btc in a year or 2.

My better chance is stack as best I can and hoping for 1 btc to = 500 k in under 5 years.

I am positioned to hold corn and stack for years to come and should not need to sell any until it reaches much higher than it is.

Assessing yourself to have had reached overaccumulation stage gives you options, and surely the greater your overaccumulation level, then the more options that you have, especially in regards to the overaccumulation amount.

Surely, I am not in any rush to sell my BTC, yet I did start to employ price-based sustainable sales once I considered myself to be well into an overaccumulation level.. and I stared that in late 2015, and sure I made various reassessments along the way, too.

Sure it could be a problem to assess yourself as to having had reached overaccumulation status and then to be mistaken within your own assessment and then you would mistakenly sell too much too soon.  so there still can be questions regarding how to manage your BTC once you assess yourself to be in overaccumulation status.. which also at minimum might cause you to change your accumulation practices, since if you really are in overaccumulation status, then you don't need to accumulate more bitcoin.  Sure optionally you can accumulate more bitcoin, but you have options and you don't have to accumulate any more BTC.

For example, if you consider that being able to live off of your bitcoin with a perpetual income of $80k per year, then right now, you might consider 17.166 to be the threshold level for overaccumulation status.    So if you have 25.166 BTC, then you would have 8 BTC in your overaccumulation amount, yet if you are barely at 17.166, you might feel that you don't have any cushion... so there can be comfort in regards to having a cushion, and maybe if you only have 17.166 BTC, then maybe you might consider spending one more year accumulating bitcoin and then to reassess your level of overaccumulation at that time...

So even if you assessed that you reached overaccumulation status,  you might not be comfortable to start to sell any of your BTC until you are sure that you are ONLY selling from within your overaccumulation amount and you are not accidentally taking yourself  out of overaccumulation status based on your sales of too many BTC too soon.  Each of us has to make these kinds of assessments and to try to protect ourselves from making a mistake of selling too many BTC too soon, especially if our goal might be to try to keep ourselves in overaccumulation status rather than putting ourselves back in a situations where we feel that we have to accumulate more BTC in order to either get to overaccumulation status or to make sure that we are in overaccumulation status, in case we might not be sure of our own assessment and/or the level of our cushion.

One of the risks of being your own bank... and then yeah, the more people know about bitcoin, they can kidnap almost anyone and then get them to send bitcoin, even if the person does not have bitcoin, they might be inspired to get bitcoin if they are being threatened with the death of a loved one.


Old news.


That's why "we" cannot have nice things.


It does help to have some plausible deniability if others are wearing such paraphernalia. 

"I was just wearing such t-shirt, hat and underwear to be cool like dose dee udder peeps."


I knew that there was something a wee bit imprecise about the retirement projections, but I just could not put a finger on it.


trolling dee dude in his HODL sleep.

What did dee dude do to you?

Show me where he touched you?

 


A little retarded to not know where a guy stands in regards to due process rights.  We should all be worried if alleged "criminals" can just be wisked away and taken to other countries without notice and/or a right to a hearing.


Cited for view-ability


As of today, I consider 17.166 BTC to be the threshold starting point today for earning an annual income of $80k in perpetuity, yet it may well take a bit of decently good BTC portfolio management to execute such a sustainable withdrawal without screwing it up... so then yeah, younger people might not need very much income until they have to support themselves, so it seems a bit unrealistic to be considering those who are less than 18 years old as retiring (and/or supporting themselves) prior to age of majority 18 years or whatever that might be depending on location/jurisdiction.


You sound a bit lost to be asking such a question.  Bitcoin is about 1,000x better than gold, even though it could take 50-200 years to play out.  Bitcoin is currently priced a little less than 1/10 of gold (in terms of market cap).

Bitcoin has been eating gold's lunch for the past 13 plus years (I like to start bitcoin's price from the beginning of 2012.  It was $5 at that time). 

Bitcoin will continue to eat gold's lunch in the coming years, even if in the past 6 months or so, gold has been having a bit of a renaissance in its price-performance. 


You are getting your Hals and your Lazlos mixed up.

Edit:  I see Merit.s set the record straight.


You have only been registered on the forum for slightly more than a year cxtreenal.. so I am not sure what you are talking about holding.  You think that you have enough coins.

Many folks in these here parts spent a good cycle or more accumulating bitcoin before starting to rest on their laurels.

Of course front loading is possible, yet I have a hard time imagining any guys being able to meaningfully accumulate enough or more than enough of a BTC stash in less than a whole cycle without significant front loading of their stash.  So you seem to be in a wrong mindset if you think that you have enough BTC cxtreenal. 

But hey.  You know your own stash size and situation way better than this here cat who ONLY had been able to glance at your forum registration date.. and to attempt to surmise from that kind of a data point..


I'm going to just say that I think that your lack of flexibility is not healthy sometimes... .even though sure, I already know it seems to be your personality.. but still... the 4-year fractals are not guaranteed, even though they have been playing out pretty well, so far, in bitcoin's history.


Gold is not necessary... except maybe if you cannot help yourself and/or you are already used to fucking around with that old shiny rock, then less than 10% of the size of the stash of your bitcoin might be o.k. to keep in gold, and perhaps having gold as less than 5% of your BTC stash would even be better.  I still think zero gold is o.k. as long as you have a bitcoin strategy.. .and yeah, even  Armageddon scenarios, there could maybe be some uses for gold.. perhaps ? perhaps?  I doubt it but you perhaps?

looking at what other casinos are doing with their tokens, i would say adding a lottery that users can join by burning their BFG would be solid.
or maybe increasing the rewards for playing with BFG, things like extra rakeback and cashback.

Creating more utility for BFG token will make it more interesting and result in new demand on the token. If they succeed in adding new utility, supply and demand principle will show its effect on BFG token very soon.

It must be considered carefully with effects on Betfurry business but buy back and burn program is one of potential choices. Stake is one of utility, and other utilities can be attached with given features for users on Betfurry casino bit it takes time for development, testing feature and security test as well as tokenomics and potential effects on their business money flow and treasury too.

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If we go by your forum registration of November 2020, then maybe you have been in bitcoin for a bit more than a whole cycle, and maybe you have accumulated enough BTC or more than enough BTC, yet I would not presume others to be in the same situation, since there is more to bitcoin than merely trying to figure out its potential future price movements.

So then the question remains do you (or others) have enough bitcoin and/or more than enough bitcoin or not?

If you are failing/refusing to buy because you think that you can buy back cheaper, then you are likely thinking about bitcoin wrong, especially if you have not concluded that you have enough bitcoin or that you have more than enough bitcoin.

Personally, I doubt that you have reached such a status, since you seem to be just trying to buy more bitcoin on the dip, and so you are worried about ongoingly buying, even though you likely have not reached a status of having enough or more than enough bitcoin.

So likely you don't even understand bitcoin sufficiently to be making such proclamations that others should follow your suggestion to slow down on their BTC accumulation and/or to employ a waiting strategy without even assessing if they have reached a status of having enough or more than enough BTC.

These are not easy assessments.

Let's say for example, that you were in your early 30s in 2020 and you make around $50k per year, and right around over the 5 years prior to your getting into bitcoin you had built an investment portfolio that was right around your income, and you decided to take $20k from that investment portfolio and to buy bitcoin, so you got 1 bitcoin in November 2020 for right around $20k, and then Since November 2020, you had decided to buy $200 per week in bitcoin, so you had invested an additional $46.5k and you got around 1.32 BTC.  So you have a total of $66.5k invested into bitcoin and you have 2.32 BTC.  Do you think that you have enough or more than enough bitcoin based on your salary? You have $108k based on 200-WMA, and $225k based on spot price valuations.  And maybe you want to have a sustainable income of $80k per year?   Based on the hypothetical that I gave, I personally think that a guy in that kind of a position (even though doing quite well) needs to keep building up his bitcoin stash.  You seem to believe that waiting is a good strategy?


He sounds a bit lost to me, and he seems to be merely focusing on what he thinks the BTC price is going to do, which it seems that he is presuming too much about his concerns about our current price potentially being "toppy."


Just holding is not any kind of a meaningful solution if someone does not have enough bitcoin.  It is nearly as bad to suggest that guys hold bitcoin rather than suggesting that they keep buying. 

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So, in your mind's eye the complaints generated on this issue are all motivated by greed and hatred right? Now take a look below 👇 where one of the sites you're advocating for also rugged a registrar. Was that also wrong accusation?

Yes, I’m in total support of the opinion that not just low income earners but everyone who chose to venture into bitcoin investment should not wait until the Dip before making investments. Reason being that we all know that the dip doesn’t last for too long and for someone who really wish to go far in his or her bitcoin journey doesn’t need to do it half way, it’s a long term investment which is also based on consistency before you can be able to build your bitcoin portfolio and also if you if you wait for the dip before you start your bitcoin investments, there is every possibility that you will end up not continuing with your bitcoin investment and also you can’t stack up enough coins as time goes on, but if you chose to invest weekly or monthly as a low income earner, using the DCA method you can be able to gradually build up your portfolio and stack up huge coins on weekly or monthly basis.

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    68. 1980983: The Cryptovator (Trust: +21 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (18) 2274 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    69. 2003859: DireWolfM14 (Trust: +19 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (18) 4924 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    70. 2015418: notblox1 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 1361 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    71. 2143453: 1miau (Trust: +5 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (20) 7251 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    72. 2344286: Little Mouse (Trust: +25 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2624 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    73. 2363935: YOSHIE (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (17) 1807 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    74. 2497429: jokers10 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 3617 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    75. 2519096: Awaklara (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (3) 752 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    76. 2597426: efialtis (Trust: +25 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1503 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    77. 2652924: geophphreigh (Trust: +32 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 1098 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    78. 2654005: zasad@ (Trust: +2 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (8) 4824 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    79. 2658890: Rikafip (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (22) 6964 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    80. 2709122: Etranger (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 1528 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    81. 2718725: Lachrymose (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (1) 1128 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    82. 2722098: seek3r (Trust: +18 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (6) 2020 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    83. 2738899: FatFork (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 2710 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    84. 2739424: NotATether (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 8369 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    85. 2739454: Stalker22 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 1456 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    86. 2744352: bullrun2024bro (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 4881 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    87. 2776678: Charles-Tim (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 5487 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    88. 2796662: Lillominato89 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 937 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    89. 2836461: Free Market Capitalist (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (2) 2525 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    90. 3373825: paid2 (Trust: +12 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 3668 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    91. 3442614: YodasRedRocket (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 624 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

DT 2
     1. 3: satoshi (Trust: +49 / =0 / -0) (7501 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 4: sirius (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (752 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 35: theymos (Trust: +31 / =1 / -1) (13207 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 1268: nanotube (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 2252: laanwj (Trust:  neutral) (25 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 2676: casascius (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (141 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 2759: midnightmagic (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (27 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 2786: Pieter Wuille (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (192 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 3380: Vladimir (Trust:  neutral) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 3420: dooglus (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (333 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 4171: Raize (Trust:  neutral) (19 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. 6347: Maged (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (15 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. 6447: forrestv (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (143 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. 7351: EPiSKiNG (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. 10502: SgtSpike (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (5 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. 11275: wariner (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (4 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. 11671: Kluge (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (15 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. 12089: piotr_n (Trust:  neutral) (427 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. 12459: CydeWeys (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. 13813: smooth (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (198 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. 14001: MiningBuddy (Trust:  neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)