Em março 2024, a Coinbase dizia fazer custodia de 8 dos 11 fundos ETFs que operavam no mercado: https://www.coinbase.com/pt-pt/blog/how-we-keep-digital-assets-safe

Tendo em conta que hoje, existe mais fundos a operar, esse numero quase de certeza que aumentou.
Muito provavelmente as maiores empresas deverão trabalhar com a Coinbase.

There is nothing wrong with being conservative in your attempts at your own management of your bitcoin holdings, including the likelihood that you don't want to get overly excited by having expectations that are way too high.

I can understand that.

At the same time, so far in bitcoin's history, the 200-WMA continues to move up, and historically, whenever we ended up hitting the 200-WMA with the price, it tended to be 6 months or longer after the ATH, and those ATH's had tended to be several multiples higher than the 200-WMA by the time that the ATH was in, so in 2017 the high spot price was around 14x higher than the 200-WMA and in late 2021, the high was around 4x higher than the 200-WMA (the early 2021 price was around 4.5x higher than the 200-WMA).

Another thing is that the BTC price did not tend to go below the 200-WMA, except for flash crash situations,  except for the period between June 2022 until October 2023, in which we spent a lot of time below the 200-WMA while the 200-WMA moved from $22k at the beginning of that 16 month period and ended slightly higher than $27k at the end of that 16 month period, and of course the worst of the BTC prices ended up being right around 35% lower than the 200-WMA in November 2022.

This cycle, so far, we have not had BTC prices that have gotten much higher than 2.5x higher than the 200-WMA... so the top has not been so extreme to justify as great of a correction, even though surely shenanigans can happen, so I am not ruling out great levels of correction, even though it seems a bit improbable to be expecting those levels of correction - especially guys selling and expecting to be able to buy back at those kinds of low prices.

It is probably healthy for you to not let your expectations get to high, but you still have to calculate that the 200-WMA is a moving target, and in order to have 20% below the 200-WMA to equal $43k-ish, you have to go with today's 200-WMA, and do you really think that the odds are very good that the BTC price would go shooting straight down within a very short period of time in order to make that 20% below the 200-WMA as feasible?  You are describing a quite outrageous scenario, even though surely I still have buy orders down to about $32k. .so yeah, maybe yu could refer to me as a bit overprotective, too.. I just hate running out of money when the price goes shooting down

I might even be willing to give you odds on anything below $53k... even though my current outstanding proposal for a 50/50 bet is that the price is never going below $80k, and I would probably like consession that I had won the bet if the BTC price goes above $300k before the end of 2027. .


Sure, any of us would agree that higher is better, and $138k is surely not unreasonable as a top for this cycle. I am going to stick with my expectation of $180k even though it is seeming a bit pie in the sky in recent times, but I am not expecting that the cycle top has to happen during the 2025 calendar year.


You feeling lucky, punk?

I had to throw that in there.

 

I will be happy if we are over 120k on Jan 1.  yeah 130 or 150 or 200 would be nicer

I can not cash in large amounts this year due to tax issues so I have to wait tll Jan 1 or later.

I need to cash at least 35k in coin next year to cover expenses.

And the extra income will hurt me  tax wise if I do that this year.

I’m not going take the bet but if your correct I could retire right now. I’m still in +/- 20% of 200wma camp for bottom now though so my low is sitting at ~43k. This might be bet you don’t to take it’s risky in my eyes.

On the uppity side which way prefer to think about I remember proclaiming I would be happy with 138k cycle top, ofc would be happier with higher but hey let’s see what happens

Hopefully for your own good, you do not end up selling too much too soon due to your "smartness."

In some sense, I get your point about not being overly reliant on UP, so in that regard, I am sure a lot of guys will be crying if the top already happens to be in and/or if the most that we get for this cycle is in the ballpark of $130k to $150k.. yet at the same time, we have to be prepared financially and psychologically for a variety of scenarios, including that if there is no blow off top, then it seems more difficult (not impossible) to get as much of an outrageous correction... so even though I recognize that right now, the 200-WMA is ONLY at $53.753, for shits and giggles, I am still willing to bet that we never go below $80k again, for any takers who might be out there.

Anyone?

Anyone?

I believe this is the new standard for avoiding or reducing the chances of a crypto swap service engaging in exit scams.

When I see a service that provides momentary custody (like an instant exchange) by making a third-party escrow with a highly reputable forum member or using a trustworthy campaign manager, it already improves my credibility with the service, making it a great first impression.

I also believe that Royse will make decisions on this, but if the case becomes too controversial for him to handle, he could simply open a thread in the reputation board.
I understand why you are asking because it's possible for random newbies who know there's an escrow to start laying unnecessary claims.

Estava a falar em valores de 100 ou 200.
Pelo menos na altura que eu testei, era difícil encontrar um trade nessa casa de valores, pela forma de troca escolhida (que seria a minimamente mais segura).

Talvez volte a dar uma vista de olhos.

Exactly, when you invest within your discretionary income and don't invest beyond your discretionary income, you will not have any cause for alarm or have a sleepless night because you did not use money for other important things to invest over aggressively.

This is why you need to recheck your discretionary income and how much that you want to use from it to invest aggressively should be properly calculated and look into your needs at that moment if it wouldn't affect should in case you want to increase your initial DCA amount within your discretionary for aggressively buying. When you lack financial management and didn't put all these into considerations, you might end up overdoing it and that will affect your bitcoin investment and your emotions too.

Tem o risco do CEO mover as moedas sem olhar o que está mostrando na Ledger

Imagina um país decidindo qual a forma de custódia será usada para guardar os BTCs. Sem chance!
A não ser que terceirizem para uma custodiante tipo Xapo.

Vai depender da quantidade. Se for valores relativamente baixos de pessoas diferentes, não haverá grande problemas.

Não podemos esquecer que os bandidos querem despachar dinheiro rápido, não em pequenas parcelas.

No que tinha visto no BISQ algum tempo atras, valores menores eram mais complicado de transacionar, por isso é que ainda não fiquei convencido.

It is not good for anyone to be talking about their stack size or the stack sizes of other members - even though from time to time, we will talk about hypotheticals and also talk about what our stack sizes might be or could be and even misinformation and disinformation that might be based on facts and/or pure fantasy.  

So, it is good to take from those stories as you will, and surely there are some members who particularly provide their personal details, or they might feel that providing some particular personal details is helpful in making their personal point more clearly or more credibly.  Sometimes, the information provided might contradict too.  Whether the contradiction needs to be sussed out might be another story.



I am frequently suggesting that guys stay focused on accumulating until they reach overaccumulation status.

Once a guy reaches overaccumulation status, his options greatly increase.

Guys have to figure out what is their own overaccumulation status and there are various ways to come to such an assessment.

In recent times (maybe the last couple of years?), I have come up with new ways of assessing overaccumulation status that are different from my ways of assessing my having had reached overaccumulation status in late 2014 (or maybe if not late 2014 by mid-to-late 2015).

A lot of guys consider it is a good idea to sell coins before they have reached overaccumulation status and they speculate that they can buy back cheaper.

Personally, I believe that it is a bad idea to sell bitcoin with a plan of trying to buy back cheaper, even though I am not against the idea of selling on the way up and buying on the way down.. especially for guys who have reached overaccumulation status, so it may well be problematic to sell on the way up when you have already figured out that you don't even have enough coins in the first place.

Guys can do whatever they like, even dumb shit.

I think that there are good reasons for guys to stay focused on accumulation of BTC through buying ONLY for at least a whole cycle, and perhaps even a couple of cycles, yet sure, guys can consider themselves smarter than everyone else and do whatever they like, including having fun never reaching overaccumulation status... since it is likely going to be quite difficult to ever reach overaccumulation status if you are selling your coins and/or focusing on strategies that deviate from persistent, consistent, regular, ongoing and perhaps even aggressive buying of bitcoin.  But hey if you want to employ selling and/or waiting as your strategy, then sure, that might work.. perhaps?  Perhaps you got it figured out and you can identify various waves that help you do better than guys who stay focused on buy only BTc accumulation techniques.


Guys have to be careful when they consider switching their strategy based on what another guy is doing or has been doing - especially if one guy might reasonably be at or above overaccumulation status and another guy might be in his early stages of accumulating and hardly making any progress in building his bitcoin holdings, and he wants to trade rather than staying focused on BTC accumulation.

There are also some guys who are ONLY able to accumulate from their income, and they are lucky to figure out how to accumulate even 10% of their income in bitcoin, so it may well take them 10 years or more to invest a whole year's income into bitcoin, and there are other guys who may have had been investing in various non-bitcoin areas for 10-20 years or more, and so when they come to bitcoin, they might already have an ability to front load 1-2 years or more of their income into bitcoin within a year or two, so guys who front load their investment may well be in a different position as compared with guys who are ONLY able to invest from their income at a rate of 10% or even less than that.

It tends to take a long time to build up a bitcoin stash, even for guys who might come to bitcoin with a lot of money, they may still take 6 months to 24 months or even longer to establish their position, since they might not want to sell much if any of their other assets while they are establishing their bitcoin position.


Let me guess.

The  "story" starts out like this:  

"JJG walks into a bar....

....


....."


 


It seems crazy to be trying to trade on such historical patterns - especially since the patterns are even more clear once the whole history had ended up playing itself out rather than having any ability to identify what may or may not happen next (based on perhaps slightly greater than 50/50 odds).


That is a bit of a dilemma.

Remember the context of my claim came from around 2021 or so, when we were transitioning to a point in which it was already starting to become impractical for guys to shoot for accumulating a whole bitcoin... so then if the target for accumulating might be 0.21 BTC or 21 million satoshis, then at that time, I was willing to admit that I had accumulated more than 3x the amounts that newbie guys might be starting out as their target accumulation level.

In recent times, I have been hearing that guys might shoot for reaching 1 million satoshis and then sure each additional million satoshis that they reach would be a good thing - especially for someone who might have limited discretionary income and who might take some time to build up his bitcoin holdings.

How many bitcoin we need and how long it might take us to get to such a status tends to have a lot of factors, and right now, 0.63 BTC is starting to seem like a lot of bitcoin, and it could take several years for guys to reach 0.63 BTC or more.

Maybe another thing, as you well know Philip, is how many bitcoin that we were able to accumulate historically does not necessarily reflect how many bitcoin we had been able to retain.  

Part of the reason that I suggest that guys get to overaccumulation status before selling any bitcoin has to do with such a dynamic, since once a guy starts to sell his bitcoin, he might not be able to get back to his earlier stash level, without having to spend way more money to get his stash back to such a level.

I am not claiming to know the answer, since each guy has to attempt to assess how to deal with his BTC accumulation and/or even whether he might consider himself to have had graduated frrom accumulation status and into maintenance status based on his own individual particulars (I had listed 9 of them).


That's beyond my current puzzle solving capabilities.


For sure.

The various formulas work with any quantity of bitcoin, yet surely it we have more bitcoin then we have more to work with, yet bitcoin is pretty powerful once you have actually accurately calculated having had reached overaccumulation status.  If you are accurate in your calculations, then you may well be ble to start to withdraw fiat from bitcoin forever.

Frequently it would be helpful to have extra beyond bare minimum overaccumulation status, so then you have some extra flexibility, so sure as you say, if you have various fiat sources, then you spend your fiat first so that your bitcoin can continue to grow and/or compound upon itself.  If we have been in bitcoin for a couple of cycles or more, then it is likely that the value of our bitcoin is ongoingly compounding upon itself.


You are telling a story that sounds just like the story that another member had told about himself.  Accordingly, you are mixing me up with another forum member since I don't speak about those kinds of specifics  - and furthermore  it is likely not good to argue about those kinds of specifics, even though, sure, I have no problem throwing out a few hypotheticals that include some other WO participant.. so for example, I could say something like:'

If Ivomm were to have had a goal to reach fuck you status, and his income in the past 10 years had been somewhere between $35k and $65k, yet he had told himself that if he were to be able to draw an income of $80k per year from his bitcoin, then right now he would likely need to have at least 14.8832BTC in order to sustainably (perpetually) be able to provide him with that level of income (including a 7% per year increase - in terms of dollars).  

Of course, if he were to have more than that quantity, then he would have some extra cushion for periods that he might want to spend beyond his budget, in the event that he were to not have any other income sources.

Another thing is that several of us might well have income sources outside of bitcoin, yet it could well be the case that some day we would end up depleting all of  our other income sources, so then we might ONLY have bitcoin remaining as our only income source.  

By the way, it is my opinion that even if we have mostly only bitcoin and cash as our only remaining investments/savings for our income sources, it probably is better to create some systems in which we have other income sources too, even if those other income sources are likely to be inferior to bitcoin.. .yet of course, it is discretionary regarding which other income sources we create for ourselves and the extent to which we don't get diverted away from bitcoin based on our choices to keep some time, energy and value in inferior assets/currencies.


That seems to come off as a reasonably fine clarification of the matter at hand, which might explain why some formulas have a kind of gobble-dee-gook flavor to them.. .. which even the knowing that we know might cause us to suspect that we might not know..  (I don't even like myself for having had written that very sentence).


We use Bitstamp as our price reference in this thread, so generally speaking the BTC price ONLY dipped to $109,683 (as far as our overall BTC price reference) - even though there were various exchanges in which the BTC price dropped lower than the Bitstamp bottom.  

Usually the various exchanges are not so far out of sync as they had gotten to be in this particular drop, so this particular dippening brought quite a bit of out-of-sync-ness in various exchanges (and I even heard some of them ran out of liquidity, which was part of the explanation for the out-of-sync-ness - like the good ole days when there tended to be a lot more out-of-sync-ness.

O aplicativo Bisq Easy (protocolo Bisq 2), já tem versão mobile para android (não tem pra iOS e provavelmente não deve ter).

Quem vai testar? Que tal começarmos a usar o Bisq agora, hein?

Caso esteja receoso com o PIX, pode negociar depix e outras stablecoins e outros métodos de pagamentos/transferências.

O @bitmover que vai gostar dessa postagem, ele entende mais do que eu.

Anúncio no X: https://x.com/bisq_network/status/1977027198717771941

github release: https://github.com/bisq-network/bisq-mobile/releases/anode_0.1.1

Playstore: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=network.bisq.mobile.node

Time for another small update that meets my arbitrary criteria to be listed in the table.

Past March 14^th, 2025 large recent transfers to 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa (more or equal to 500,000 sats):

Current balance at time of this post according to combo(PubKey of Genesis block's coinbase) descriptor, including the unspendable 50BTC of coinbase tx: 104.39476090BTC (the difference to previous post's value and newcomer transaction are a lot of smaller dust wastes or whatever their purpose is).

This may differ slightly from what mempool.space or bitcoindata.science displays because the combo() descriptor^{see below} accounts for all address types (except Taproot, IIRC).

Personally, I am not sure if going below $100k and even staying there for a few weeks would be determinative of a bear market.

In the last cycle, I had given up once we crashed below the 100-WMA.. So I was thinking that maybe the 100-WMA would be more of a sign that we are in a bear market, even though even that might not determinative, if we go through a mere flash crash or something that is not lasting.

Currently, the 100-WMA is at $77k.

Of course, you might have had been one of the guys who had been discussing the possibility that the bull market is over once the 200-WMA reaches the previous ATH.. and the 200-WMA is currently at $53.7k, and the top of the 2021 bull market was $69k.


You mean that we peak around $2.5 million in 2028-2029 , and then we crash back down to a mere $1 million in 2030?

The worst is the disruption of the supply chains so that we are not able to enjoy our riches, right?


Of course, there are scouts out there who are stealing the ideas of the best minds in town.


It could be.  Such a claim does not come off as outrageous.  The devil is in the details, and surely  it is not even good for rich people if safety goes way down or  supply chains dry up.


I might not be a good person to measure against.. and gold is not dumping seems like a big so what? 

Hopefully none of us are buying much if any gold, or getting distracted by it.

Mostly, I have not been injecting new cash into bitcoin since early 2017 - except maybe sporadically here and there, for example, during the 2022 crash below $20k, I largely was running out of money in my various bitcoin related funds, so there was some period of time that I was injecting some new cash into bitcoin.. 

I did most of my BTC accumulating in 2013 and 2014, and I still continued somewhat in 2015 through 2016, even though I told myself that I had mostly gotten enough by late 2014. It seems to me that most guys are still accumulating bitcoin, and they have to acknowledge where they are at... and trading is not a good approach for anyone who is still trying to accumulate bitcoin.


Whether you were around or not,  you should take some responsibility in trying to get some sense of what bitcoin does and is capable of doing so that you will not be totally surprised and/or blown away by price moves that go outside of your expectations.

We had a 30% correction between late January 2025 and early April 2025, so it is not even like we have to go back very far in BTC's price history.

We get guys spinning this current dump as if it were the first time that we had blah blah blah, and some guys just accept those representations without doing any meaningful verification for themselves. Sometimes it is difficult to even save folks from themselves.


Spoon feeding.


There are needs to be practical without expecting that those third-party services and/or derivative products are the same as bitcoin.  We also should not presume that various third-party derivative products are not problematic in regards to several use cases that bring value to bitcoin, even if they serve some purposes of allowing for bitcoin price exposure.

I frequently suggest that newbies to bitcoin get started in whatever way that they can, and I don't even push the idea that they have to start out with self-custody, since I understand that in some regards, it can take a bit of time to get used to bitcoin, so in some regards, it may well be better to start out with investing in various derivative products and/or even buying bitcoin through an exchange while learning about bitcoin and self-custody... so it could take 3-6 months or even a year for some newbies to get used to aspects of bitcoin and to transition into self-custody.. so in that regard, I consider it better to have exposure to bitcoin rather than not having exposure, yet you BTCETFInvestor have made arguments that self-custody is inferior to buying those various bitcoin derivative products, which seems that you either don't understand bitcoin or you are trying to spread misinformation by wanting to promote derivative products as if they were superior, when they are not.

Individuals have fewer excuses, even though surely I can imagine some situations in which they might have had built their investments through various traditional kinds of investment accounts, so they have some difficult times learning the value and the importance of self-custody, especially in an asset like bitcoin.. which is different from all other assets - except there are shitcoins trying to imitate it, yet difficult for them to establish strong network effects if they are not at least 10x better than bitcoin.


Guys are in various stages of their bitcoin investment journey, and for sure, the longer that any of us have been in bitcoin, then the more likely that the passage of time and our emphasis on buying and then holding and not overly selling ended up contributing to our having had created a distance between our cost basis and the current price...or even the anticipated bottom price.

It still can take a long time for any of us to get to the point of feeling "stress free."

I am not going to anyone to be a long term bitcoiner, yet instead it seems that the safer investment is to assume most people are either no coiners or they are new to bitcoin, so they are building up their stash, and in the process of building their stash, it can surely take a decently long time to get into a status of "stress free."

A lot of guys do not even have great levels of discretionary income, and they also might have challenges with their cashflow management to be able to clearly establish that they have enough discretionary income to be able to fairly aggressively invest into bitcoin without stress.

Even if we might presume that some guys might be able to invest fairly aggressively into bitcoin, such as 15% to 25% of his income into bitcoin (presuming that money is discretionary funds), then it could still take him 4 to 7 years to get up to 1 years of his income into bitcoin, and even if he gets 1 year income into bitcoin, it could take a while for that quantity of money to sufficiently appreciate, since maybe he is not able to front load his investment into bitcoin and if the price of bitcoin is going up as he is investing into it, he might lose confidence in deploying as much aggressiveness in his investment into bitcoin, since he will perceive that the BTC price is high and that he might not be investing wisely by buying as the BTC price is going up.

Many guys are also not even in a position to be able to invest 15% to 25% of their income into bitcoin, and they might be lucky to be able to invest 10% of ther income into bitcoin, which means that it will take around 10 years for them to have had invested a whole years income into bitcoin.

Anyhow.  I think that I said enough, and I am repeating myself to say that it tends to take a long time to build up an investment.

Even yourself.  You likely did not feel stress free with your bitcoin in your first whole cycle buying bitcoin, even though we came to find  out that we could have invested a whole cycle in the past and then we could stop investing.  Now days, there are likely needs for most folks to invest into bitcoin 2-3 cycles or even more to really get to a point in which their bitcoin investment might start to feel less stressful, and not even that is guaranteed.


No.

Se o KYC é básico, pode tornar as coisas interessantes.
Melhor que a Binance então?

Vou ver se dou uma vista de olhos com mais cuidado e eventualmente uns testes.

Thanks, I updated the overview with your animated chart race.



Yep, we recovered nicely and are keeping good numbers. All that was needed is a couple of new members and our local became way more lively than before.



It happens when I am late publishing my review and you are quick publishing yours: there is only one day difference!
Lol!
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This is how it starts, and before you know it, I'll start publishing my overviews before you, like it was in the past. 

Ontem eu acessei a hyperliquid de novo, vi que a maioria das moedas que eu costumo trocar, como LTC não tem, mas já é um bom começo.

Eu ainda não operei nenhum valor por lá, pois meus fundos já estavam na bybit.

Não tem KYC @bitmover ? Mesmo se não usarmos USDC pra depositar ou sacar?

Perhaps some people can never get enough, no matter what.

I know that you don't completely agree with the idea of luck, yet as long as we are not dead (or perhaps if we have (or had) at least a 4 year investment horizon when we got started), we are so damned fortunate to have had come across bitcoin and come to the realization that it was a place in which we could put value, and yeah, we did not know for sure that it was going to go up, but we considered it as a potentially promising place.

There are so many folks who either don't hear about bitcoin or if they hear about it, they do not recognize and appreciate it as an opportunity, which continues to be true to this day.

Some of us who have been in bitcoin for a while start to believe that the bitcoin trade is obvious, even if it may well be obvious to some of us, since even if there were advantages in being aggressive in our investments, those folks who were moderate and/or even conservative in their bitcoin investment, were still able to profit quite extensively, as long as they stayed somewhat consistent in their buying of bitcoin and erroring on the side of buying and HODLing it.

Sure, there are some guys who have been in bitcoin more than 6 years and still have costs in the $30ks to $50ks, so they might ONLY have 2.5x to 4x profits in their bitcoin holdings, yet there are quite a few of us who have costs per BTC that are quite a bit below $30k, even below $10k per BTC - which surely should have had allowed us to offset the debasement of the dollar and various other fiat currencies.

I suppose some of us have figured out various ways to maintain cashflow in our lives so that we don't feel any urgency to be cashing out much if any of our BTC, and I don't have any problem if guys want to make somewhat radical upgrades to their lifestyle - yet at the same time, it is probably healthier to try to figure out ways to gradually upgrade your lifestyle rather than radically upgrading, even if you are able to radically upgrade.  Not everyone is going to agree with my viewpoint, that is for sure, and surely various aspects of a person's situation - even their age, might cause them to shoot for high aspirations that may well be contributing to extra stresses that may well not be necessary... but hey, to each their own.

Lucky I feel.. .


It is problematic to be playing with leverage, even though surely, there are guys, even in these here parts, who choose to use leverage of some sort or another in their ways of dealing with bitcoin... and sometimes even more leverage than they can handle financially and/or psychologically.. and therefore, small dips can sometimes end up with fairly high magnifying effects.

Historically, it seems that we had much more volatility and even emotions. I recall a lot of time that "stay calm" used to be quite a common theme in these here parts.




Hopefully.  You are still in a good place, even if it is taking you a long time to figure out that the key to bitcoin is to keep stacking until you reach some acceptable version of overaccumulation status.  There are surely a lot of guys who prematurely conclude that they have reached overaccumulation status based on concerns that the prices are continuing to go up... Yet, part of our recognition should still be that so many normies still don't know what the fuck bitcoin is, even though some of them think that they do based on their having had heard the word, "bitcoin."


You are reading me (my post) wrong.  I was merely trying to suggest that some guys can ONLY invest from their income since they either do not have anything saved (and/or they do not have liquid places in which they could draw upon to invest in bitcoin), so they can only invest from their income as their income comes in.. .. and they might not even be able to draw from their income in advance because they either have bad credit, no collateral and/or insufficient credibility in terms of their ongoing income continuing to come in (not that I consider borrowing against your future income to be a good idea, especially for people who are already with questionable credit worthiness or questionable future cashflow and/or back up ways to pay the loan in case the investment goes to zero or does not adequately perform). 


You are in the best position to judge any places in which you are able to increase your income and/or cut your expenses, and so surely it is good that you have figured out various ways to earn bitcoin and to transact with bitcoin, and so that puts you at a certain advantage over folks who still have not yet learn those kinds of aspects of bitcoin.

You likely have had a bit of a problematic mentality when it comes to bitcoin, in terms of your inclinations to spend it without replacing it, and sure, I understand if some of your income is coming from bitcoin, there may well be times in which your various basic expenses exceed your income, so you have to figure out from some places in which to draw from various resources that you have in order to cover the various basic expenses, which is part of the reason that guys will keep various back up funds so that they have cash cushions to cover their expenses when things are not going well or maybe even in times that they might have made some mistakes in their calculating of their income versus their expenses. 

No one can really tell you how to manage your funds and/or how much to emphasize accumulating bitcoin, since level of aggressiveness (or priorities) and/or levels of whimpiness are within your own choices including your putting some efforts in to identifying the value of bitcoin as an asset and/or as a vehicle to both present and future empowerment (empowerment with the potential of having of more options).


A so far 13% correction is hardly anything to pay attention to, and sure guys are in different phases of their bitcoin investment journey, and so you have to figure out where you are on the spectrum of accumulation, maintenance, liquidation or some combination of those and perhaps some priority to one or another depending.. and guys who are in their earliest years into bitcoin will be at various stages of accumulation, so as their bitcoin stash grows they may well find themselves to start to transition into some aspect of the next stage up, yet it still can take guys well over 10 years to get through their accumulation stage, especially if they are building their bitcoin ONLY from their income and they don't have other places in which they can reallocate into bitcoin or other ways to front load their bitcoin without engaging in unnecessary risks. 

Maybe I am a bit too conservative, sometimes, yet it seems to me that there are ways to invest that are mostly focused on building and not taking too many chances of a lot of things potentially going wrong and/or devolving into trading and/or gambling rather than investing.  There are a lot of guys who seem to mix up trading and investing, and sure there are ways in which trading/investing overlap, yet at the same time, some guys seem to wrongly conclude that with bitcoin they need to transition between buying and selling their bitcoin in order to hopefully build their bitcoin stash in a more rapid way... yet frequently trying to rush an investment (like bitcoin) might either contribute to opposite results or even hinder the building process in unnecessary ways.

It seems that you might need to just ongoingly focus on building your bitcoin, and if you sell any bitcoin that you have, then spend and replace them in a fairly short period of time, yet you likely have to rethink what targets you are trying to reach..  so for example, if your current income is $20k to $30k, yet you were shooting for something like a $40k per year income that could be completely supported by bitcoin, then from my point of view, right now you would need right around 7.455 BTC or more to reach that threshold of being able to perpetually draw $40k per year and with a 7% per year optional income increase.

Even if you currently do not have 7.455 BTC, and maybe you ONLY have 1.5 BTC (which it seems that you don't even have that much, even though you have been in registered on this forum since early 2017)... but let's say that you were to either have 1.5 BTC or able to accumulate that amount by 2031, then perhaps by 2031, 1.5 BTC would be enough to support a perpetual income of $40k per year with 7% annual increases.

Of course, projections of future prices are not guaranteed, yet it still can be helpful to have some ballpark ideas about where we are at (how did we get here should be more concrete) and where we think that we might be able to go. None of this is guaranteed.  We do our best based on our circumstances as they are and what we realistically might consider to be within our capabilities, and sometimes we will end up in a better situation than we had expected ourselves to be, which has been the case with quite a few folks who have been in bitcoin for a long time and who have stayed focused on accumulating and mostly holding their bitcoin.

Em que sentido fica mais fácil?
O KYC deixa de ser relevante?

Mas, se fizeres a conversão para fiat tens de fazer KYC, ou não?

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Quality post if I have ever seen one.

😀🤣😂 some excellent points right there

Qual é o link mesmo, dessa hyperliquid?
Eles não pedem KYC?

Como realizo tão poucas trocas, acabo por não fixar esses pormenores. 

No more "dump before the pump"?

I would hate for the cycle to be over so soon.

I don't buy it.

I will bet you that we get $127k or higher before the end of the year and if not the end of the year before the end of the 1st quarter 2026.

I am not going to lock myself into thinking that the top of the cycle has to happen within this calendar year.

You want to bet?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Also, I will bet you that we will not reach below $80k prior to December 2027  (and we can also use $300k as another way to close such bet before the end of 2027).


I got some at $120k, some at $115.5k, some at $112.2k, some at $108.5k and some at $105.1k..

The last two were an overshoot by that exchange, so then I was supposed to sell the $108.5k and the $105.1k ones at $109k and $112k respectively - however, the price was shooting up to $114k while I was trying to place the sell orders, so I just sold one of them at $114.27k and the other at $114.17k.. .. so now everything is back in order with the next buys at $108.5k-ish and the next sells at $116.5k-ish.. so really 3 orders filled, but two additional orders on one of the exchanges due to an overrun... perhaps a fat thumb?


You better not sell them, then.



Repeat your ongoing dumb.


 



Most pathetic is very subjective.

There are a lot of great things going on in bitcoin, and the 200-WMA is up from $16,126 on October 11, 2021 to $53,662 today.  That is a 3.33x appreciation in the bottom price, which seems quite amazing to this here cat... best investment that has been available for everyone and anyone, as long as such persons have a discretionary income and such person choose to invest rather than trade. 

Of course, having at least a 4-10 year investment timeline is helpful too, and the longer investment timelines have had the benefits of compounding value, especially if we go back even further in the cycles.

Yeah, of course, you are anxious to sell.. but that may well be upon you failing/refusing to take profits along the way and putting too much emphasis of certain tops that you would like to reach with a certain timeline. 

And, we already know that dee cornz is not exactly on a schedule, even though it sometimes might seem like it is on a schedule.


You know better than that.

We had a trump pump that went from $69k-ish to $109k-ish within about 2.5 months.  That was nearly a 60% price increase in a short period of time.

We also had pretty much a move from $27k in October 2023 to $109k in January 2025 - that is right around 4x..

but yeah, maybe we have to go back to the 200-WMA in order to help to calm "ourselves" the fuck down.

No?

You might deserve either a bat slapping, or the treatment from Airplane (the movie).
 

 Who cares?

Gold is a dying relic.

zoom out.

Gold has not done shit in the past 15 years,.. and yeah, maybe it is not fair to measure gold from its earlier 2011 top, and so sure gold is a bit of a go-to asset at the moment.. yet bitcoin is around 1,000x better than gold.. so it may take some time for the market to figure it out.


You sound over invested.


Bitcoin is going up forever, yet at the same time, we have to expect some leveling off..

And, we have to also expect quite a bit of manipulation.

Volatility is not going away, and sure volatility can go in either direction, and sure UP is not guaranteed.


Oh gawd.

 

You do deserve to sell some, even though you seem to have enough sense to not be selling too much at these prices, yet why hang onto so much bitcoin, anyhow.

You likely have plenty of profits.  You could probably sell 10% to 20% and not even be very phased, and you would get rid of some of your overinvestedness.
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Whether you save or you invest with whatever you sell is up to you.  You likely have plenty of bitcoin, so why be greedy, especially if it is upsetting you so much.

You are overinvested.


Sure.  I celebrate.

For the most part, many of us (perhaps royal?) have been having ongoing celebrations since late 2015.  2014 and 2015 were down and flat.. but by time we got to the end of 2015, the BTC price has been pretty much ongoingly  UP since then.

Sure there have been some pauses along the way, but pretty much ongoing up since late 2015 when BTC prices were around $250... now BTC spot prices are right around 449x higher than what they were in late 2015.

Might as well look at the 200-WMA, too.

The 200-WMA was about $240 on October 11, 2015, so right now it is $53,662.  So that is still  right around 223.6x.. So either way, ongoing ATHs seem to be a thing, and yeah, they are still worthy of some level of excitement when they are continuing to happen, and likely not going to stop, either, even though we might experience some pausenings along the way, too.


There is no need for any kind of better bull counter-case, since you are free to do whatever the fuck you want, including taking some off of the table if you were expecting more, then you might not get it.

But then again, many of us already know that there are gloomy periods while bitcoin is performing quite greatly.

I recall a lot of doomer and gloomers throughout 2017 even though BTC prices went up quite greatly in that year, and even the correction did not bring us down to the lows that a lot of folks ( took their profits).

Even though you are a bit whiny, I almost sent you an smerit for laying out the "this is not enough" whiner case,. which is neither new for you or for some of the other whiners who "expected more" from dee cornz... .. but then as I was typing my response, I thought?  Why reward the whiner?

wah, wah, wah.. give me my pacifier.  we have had a so far 13% correction from our top from 5 days ago.. the world is ending, the world is ending... and the top is in... . wah wah wah.   

At times, whining can be a bit contagious.

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Merit per day of the week
Monday 307122 (14.26%)
Tuesday 308079 (14.30%)
Wednesday 308309 (14.31%)
Thursday 329163 (15.28%)
Friday 328102 (15.23%)
Saturday 285800 (13.27%)
Sunday 286754 (13.31%)
Total: 2153329

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This could be the case with l0tt0, but I am sure dewez wants to see his website growing and having more customers playing.
It is not easy to get the right balance of staying under the radar and attracting more users to play.

That is looking wild! 
It reminds me on those old windows mine games, but with a crypto twist.

Take your time and make everything run smooth and without bugs, that is more important.

Congratulations!
Finally you reached a new game level, and next one is is 4 circles Senior Member 

Com certeza. Veja o caso do metanol nas bebidas. Os malandros colocaram etanol de posto de gasolina achando que esse etanol também não era batizado.

Ai acabaram comprando metanol como se fosse etanol comum para misturar na bebida batizada. Que já seria uma filhadaputagem sem tamanho.

É uma burrice misturada com safadeza da pior qualidade.

Alguns analistas dizem que a queda deve-se a essa valorização do dolar.
https://exame.com/future-of-money/bitcoin-hoje-cripto-pode-continuar-caindo-caso-o-dolar-continue-se-fortalecendo-diz-especialista/

Além disso, esta semana o Ouro voltou a valorizar.

Então, podemos estar perante uma correção de preço, com malta a liquidar para ir para ativos de baixo risco.

Pick Six? Lucky 7's? they are still there... the only game we have removed was Magic Dice.. It's been done, you can play it anywhere... so we removed it to remake it (plus with the race it wasnt fun that people could snipe a spot).

Close source is not a favorite thing for a wallet with Bitcoin and cryptocurrency users. It's important as there are other hardware wallets that are open-source and have good reputation too like Trezor. So, it leaves very little reasons to choose Ledger if you want to buy a new hardware wallets. With people who already bought Ledger wallets, they can continue to use those wallets.

It's just whenever they buy new ones, let's ignore Ledger and choose Trezor or other open source hardware wallets in this list.
[LIST] Open Source Hardware Wallets.

and it's crazy how the Nigeria section has grown so powerfully and heavily
I hope this really reflects the growth of cryptocurrencies in Nigeria.
We need ordinary people to understand the importance of bitcoin!! bitcoin is the future of us, the real future

Hey xandry, I just forwarded this to my contact person, and I hope they will review it.
I also forwarded the suggestion written by bitmover.
Unfortunately, my contact is traveling from this country to that country to represent Bitz.io at various crypto meetups, casino conferences, and other events. They have a pretty busy schedule till the end of October, and they promised to give us more time at the beginning of November.

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FYI - We just launched a Slot multiplier contest on the Games and Round section, which you may want to check.

Just because responses in the thread deviated from the original post, that does not cause the original post (or it's ideas) to no longer be on-topic, even if a large number of the posters here are speaking against the trading ideas that were contained in the OP.


You have been registered on the forum for about 6 months longer than the start of this thread, so sure the BTC price has been pretty much continuously up during your time on the forum, at the time that this thread started and even going back to November 2022.  So, yeah, we have had mostly an UP dynamic with a few periods of flat and some short term corrections... so yeah, everyone is in profits as long as they errored on the side of accumulating through buying and holding and not selling.  That is what happens when we are in the price arena of all time highs.. which yeah, right now (and even today's dip down to $119,736, we have largely stayed within 5% of the ATH (of $126,272) from 3-4 days ago.

So yes. Everyone is largely in profits.  The investor is likely not going to be affected, and he may well be continuing to accumulate, yet there are also investors who don't know what to do.  They might not even know that an investor should not be thinking about selling (otherwise he will convert into a trader), but, yeah, guys who are new to bitcoin (such as within their first 4 years), might be confused about what they are supposed to do, and so threads like this one can be helpful to bat around ideas about what to do.


Past performance does not guarantee future results. Sure, you can say that historically eveyone is in profits as long as they stayed focused on buying and holding.

However, it is inaccurate (and likely misleading) if you are suggesting that future profits are guaranteed based on BTC's past performance, even for investors.


So?

I would suggest the BTC price has been pretty much a steady grind up since November 2022, and if you are an investor, you should not be getting too worked up about BTC prices, especially if you have less than a whole cycle investing, unless you were agble to front load your investment, then sure, you might be o.k. and you might have average costs of your BTC below the 200-WMA, which happens to be at $53,615 right now.


Are you planning to sell in a few years?  You really think that you get maximum benefits in a few years?.. so let's say that you had been investing in BTC for 4-5 years, and let's say that the BTC price generally goes up during those 4-5 years whle you are DCA buying.  Are you really in a place to maximize your benefits from merely a 4-5 year investment period of DCA buying of BTC?   

Sure many guys DCA, yet there are other ways to invest, including lump sum buying and buying on dips.  I am not much of a fan of buying on dips for beginner investors, even though it could have its role, especially if guys supplement in periods that they might have lump sum funds come available and they might consider front running their bitcoin investment.

I had actually already thought about this, about collecting this data to see how the BTC price has evolved over the weeks.
It's information that can be processed in many ways. Now, who's willing to go to the trouble of collecting all of this over the last 10 years or so?

Sim. Mas, olhando para o racio foi um bom mês de merits.
Temos de recuar até abril/junho de 2023 para ter o mesmo racio, meses onde tivemos quase o dobro dos posts que fizemos em setembro.

Realmente o mês de setembro teve uma baixa ativada. Porque terá sido?

Thank you for another great monthly overview.
I can't believe how fast some local boards are changing, and some of them didn't even exist not long ago.
Croatian local board is doing better, but we are always looking for new members to accept

Looking at this animation we can see how many changes happened in last few years, and this is only for local board.
Maybe you should create something similar using this tool but for signature campaigns.

Jamais aposte a favor do Brasil bitmover 
Ninguém com poder que está la em cima tem coragem de fazer algo do tipo

Foi bom ver uma pequena derrota do governo

Olha o que vi ontem, é fenomenal:


Sacanagem com nós brasileiros

Se mudaram e dava pra ver a transação foi erro crasso mesmo. A transação ficava tão feia no visor que nem faz sentido olhar nele, por que mesmo olhando você não entende o que assina.

Eles deviam ter buscado um dispositivo que mostra os detalhes da transação e sempre conferir antes de assinar, mas confiaram que a tela do Safe Wallet nunca seria invadida

Na verdade o maior problema foi que você não consegue identificar o que a transação faz no visor da ledger por que ela é muito longa e complexa. As transações que só enviam ethereum aparece o valor e o endereço, mas a transação de um contrato inteligente da ethereum é mais complexa e aparece apenas o valor bruto que é em um codigo hexadecimal, ou seja é impossível identificar o que está assinando só assim. Então eles confiaram na tela da Safe Wallet que mostrava dados falsos por que foi invadida pelos hackers enquanto a transação dava controle a carteira para eles.

O ponto é mesmo esse. Eu acho que foi das primeiras coisas que eu aprendi quando comecei a mexer no Bitcoin - confirmar, confirmar e confirmar.

A pessoa em cada transacção deve ter medo de fazer algo errado, esse medo irá permitir a pessoa estar atenta e a verificar bem o que está a fazer.

Alem disso o cuidado deve começar na sua atitude na Internet e a usar o computador. Todos os seus comportamentos irão influenciar tudo o que pode acontecer ou não.

I've been slacking with these overviews for quite some time, publishing them at the end of the month, so this time I've decided to do it a bit earlier for a change. As always, all charts and table are made using data from @DdmrDdmr Merit Dashboard and @TryNinja Ninjastic Space.

Communities marked with * (Pakistan, Bengali) don't have their own local boards.

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Post activity per local board during September 2025

Increase of activity in Nigerian board continues, from 3812 posts in August to 4255 in September, making it their new all time high. At the same time, majority of the other very active local boards had decreased activity, and that's something that is going on for a while.

Generally speaking, no surprise that total amount of posts written across local boards dropped from 13107 in August to 12612 in September.

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Active members per local board during September 2025

During the last month, 1292 members wrote at least one post in one of the local boards, which is a decrease compared to August (1344).

While in August Russian board still had more active members than Nigerian board, this changed in September and now Nigerian is finally topping this chart as well, and the difference will probably keep increasing. All the other local boards are far behind the others, with mostly decreased number of active members compared to month before.

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Local board members per amount of posts during September 2025

When it comes to the members who wrote only 1 post, Spanish is the leader with 54% of such members, while Pakistan local had only 12% members in that bracket.

In the 2-9 posts bracket, Polish the leader with 60%, while at the same time Croatian had the lowest percentage of such members (21%)

Regarding the 10+ posts bracket, Nigerian and Portuguese local boards ahsred the 1st spot with 47%, while French had only 6% of members in that group.

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Merit shared per local board during September 2025

During September, 8922 merit was shared acorss local boards, which is a decrease compared to month before (9258). Even the record high 2964 merit that was shared in Nigerian board didn't help, which is due the fact that many of the other active local boards had decrease of merit in that period. It will be inreersting to see whether Nigerian local breaks the 3k merit shared mark, something that hasn't been broken in local boards since the early merit days, back in 2018 in Russian board.

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Merit/Post ratio per local board during September 2025

The average merit per post across local boards was 0.7, the exactly the same as in August. Once again Romanian is at the top, and this time with even higher ratio than month before, and again followed by German board while this time Italian board is 3rd instead of Spanish.

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Merit senders and receivers per local board during September 2025

During September, 582 members sent while 656 received merit. Nigerian local board dominates this board as well, with the diference that hasn't been seen in a long time.

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Percentage of merited posts across local boards during September 2025

I thought that 100% of merited posts in Romanian board was just an anomaly, but they almost managed to achieve that 2 months in a row while Polish board also had a very high percentage, but its no so weird given their amount of posts. What is a surprise though is Italian board, given their pretty good overall activity (that was lower than usual in the last few months).

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Merit per transaction across local boards during September 2025

This month German board is at the top having which is not the surprise given their high merit per post ratio, but French and Greek definitely are.

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The most active members per local board during September 2025

Last but not the list in this monthly overview, list of the most active members per local board. joker_josue from Portuguese board remained at the top with 144 posts, while executijere and mandown from Turkish board are at the 2nd and 3rd spot with also respectable 140 and 124 posts. GG guys, keep it up!

Russian	|	German	|	Turkish	|	Italian	|	Portuguese	|	Spanish	|
_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|
1. klarki [124]	|	1. MaxMueller [82]	|	1. execijutiere [140]	|	1. Ale88 [47]	|	1. joker_josue [144]	|	1. famososMuertos [57]	|
2. zasad@ [90]	|	2. Lakai01 [77]	|	2. mandown [124]	|	2. fillippone [40]	|	2. TryNinja [62]	|	2. darxiaomi [52]	|
3. Numeral [85]	|	3. cygan [58]	|	3. ajanwalker [66]	|	3. *Ace* [36]	|	3. bitmover [59]	|	3. Porfirii [31]	|
4. Julien_Olynpic [79]	|	4. Koal-84 [50]	|	4. RaltcoinsB [62]	|	4. babo [30]	|	4. sabotag3x [52]	|	4. danadc [23]	|
5. Alex077 [64]	|	5. MinoRaiola [50]	|	5. yenerbatmaz [54]	|	5. Plutosky [28]	|	5. mikel_012 [49]	|	5. Don Pedro Dinero [21]	|
6. safar1980 [48]	|	6. Real-Duke [40]	|	6. blomen [52]	|	6. conilmionome [27]	|	6. Forsyth Jones [38]	|	6. Hispo [15]	|
7. Lannakosa [42]	|	7. Unknown01 [34]	|	7. Mustang Shelby [51]	|	7. Lillominato89 [26]	|	7. alegotardo [36]	|	7. paxmao [7]	|
8. Excimer [41]	|	8. mole0815 [29]	|	8. eightdots [44]	|	8. gbianchi [24]	|	8. velhoti [26]	|	8. btc-marty [6]	|
9. KTChampions [41]	|	9. 5tift [21]	|	9. xzone [41]	|	9. giorgione [22]	|	9. alexrossi [22]	|	9. darbitmobilerecovery [6]	|
10. eisen33 [39]	|	10. Soonandwaite [20]	|	10. Black Mbaye [40]	|	10. martinom [18]	|	10. rdluffy [22]	|	10. d5000 [5]	|

Indonesian	|	French	|	Pilipinas	|	Croatian	|	Nigerian	|	Arabic	|
_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|
1. traderethereum [25]	|	1. Danydee [12]	|	1. gunhell16 [63]	|	1. slackovic [45]	|	1. Jubilee58 [83]	|	1. Kavelj22 [36]	|
2. Rashlyowl [24]	|	2. patrickus [9]	|	2. technicalguy83 [55]	|	2. ovcijisir [41]	|	2. Charles-Tim [75]	|	2. yhiaali3 [24]	|
3. Nahl [22]	|	3. oscar2000 [5]	|	3. tech30338 [54]	|	3. katanic97 [38]	|	3. Mr_Brilliant$ [52]	|	3. khaled0111 [23]	|
4. maydna [22]	|	4. TryNinja [4]	|	4. blockman [52]	|	4. Pmalek [27]	|	4. Floxynice [51]	|	4. FoxTM1 [7]	|
5. mu_enrico [21]	|	5. akfreebtc [4]	|	5. Peanutswar [42]	|	5. examplens [26]	|	5. Donk1 [49]	|	5. HistoLock [7]	|
6. Akbarkoe [20]	|	6. GrosWesh [3]	|	6. cryptoaddictchie [37]	|	6. Rikafip [20]	|	6. Bright0515 [48]	|	6. AP Taurus Capital [6]	|
7. joniboini [20]	|	7. SimonBHB [3]	|	7. arwin100 [27]	|	7. Trofo [17]	|	7. Tonimez [42]	|	7. Ochan_yazo_tochant [6]	|
8. TelolettOm [18]	|	8. G.Seed [2]	|	8. Russlenat [23]	|	8. dkbit98 [13]	|	8. Karl_3000 [40]	|	8. Sebastian Michaelis [5]	|
9. MAAManda [17]	|	9. mably [2]	|	9. bhadz [22]	|	9. paco92x [11]	|	9. JoyceBTC [37]	|	9. hugeblack [4]	|
10. masulum [15]	|	10. Becassin [1]	|	10. coin-investor [21]	|	10. CroBoy12 [9]	|	10. PremiumcryptoHub [36]	|	10. GxSTxV [2]	|

Polish	|	Indian	|	Greek	|	Romanian	|	Pakistan*	|	Bengali*	|
_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|
1. cygan [26]	|	1. Bitcoin Smith [42]	|	1. Ultegra134 [18]	|	1. GazetaBitcoin [12]	|	1. qurbanshah02 [76]	|	1. Bd officer [23]	|
2. TryNinja [4]	|	2. JSRAW [32]	|	2. cryptosize [10]	|	2. NeuroticFish [6]	|	2. JunaidAzizi [40]	|	2. Crypto Library [22]	|
3. pawel7777 [4]	|	3. pawanjain [28]	|	3. condoras [8]	|	3. TryNinja [4]	|	3. BTC FutureKing [31]	|	3. DYING_S0UL [18]	|
4. ertil [2]	|	4. henry1111 [20]	|	4. alani123 [6]	|	4. othell_rogue [1]	|	4. ZAINmalik75 [31]	|	4. God Of Thunder [14]	|
5. EXMON [1]	|	5. IIrik11 [19]	|	5. apogio [4]	|		|	5. HustleZ [28]	|	5. Z_MBFM [12]	|
	|	6. henmark [17]	|	6. Satos21 [1]	|		|	6. Cheema02 [25]	|	6. Shishir99 [9]	|
	|	7. TheUltraElite [14]	|	7. siderisng [1]	|		|	7. MusaPk [24]	|	7. LDL [8]	|
	|	8. XXKK-Exchange [12]	|		|		|	8. Ab de villiers [21]	|	8. Mahiyammahi [7]	|
	|	9. libert19 [10]	|		|		|	9. Publictalk792 [20]	|	9. Review Master [7]	|
	|	10. LucyFurr [9]	|		|		|	10. Compromise me [18]	|	10. Yea_btc [5]	|

Pessoal, não abaixem a guarda, estamos no governo das trevas, tudo é possível. Vide aquela vez que mesmo com reprovação do congresso, bastou o nine ir chorar no SFT que o aumento do IOF passou como se o congresso não fosse nada.

Desse desgoverno desgraçado eu não duvido nada!!! nada  mesmo!!

Well, I have another one.

I am the only one who is not receiving any advertising emails from Bitz.io? It just seems so strange to me, and I don't know if it's because of some error that I'm not on the list or if they're not being sent to anyone. I regularly receive emails from other casinos, some of which I haven't played at in a long time, but none from Bitz.io. I think it would be positive to send emails automatically, at least once a week, to everyone who registers (unless they opt out), and when there are promotions, things like that.

It's really great to discuss the project at such an early stage with experienced people whose advice helps us foresee potential issues.

For instance, regarding Tether: after reading your comments, we found a possible solution for the problem of stolen USDT.
To protect users, we plan to introduce an additional mechanism that verifies the legitimacy of incoming USDT transactions when they reach the buffer wallet (e.g., through an AML verification bot).
If the system detects a red flag, it will automatically trigger the rollback process, preventing the exchange from taking place and protecting users from compromised funds.
We will add this feature during stablecoin implementation process.

Do we still have non KYC casinos that operate like the KYC casinos with plenty features? I am surprised to this one. For you to admit that this casino is KYC free that means that you must have used it several times to confirm that. If they don't operate like the casinos that called themselves decentralized having uninteresting features, that will be beautiful to give this a try.
Most KYC free casinos are becoming KYC mandatory casinos because of the government obligations to make them ask players for KYC verification to curb money laundering and fraud transactions...(Government politicians are the money launders themselves) and it can be annoying to see all their attacks on KYC free casinos/exchange

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/3-6m-drained-hyperliquid-defi-124149253.html

is this the one you are referring?

Eles não podem reeditar a MP e incluir de novo, mas nada impedem eles de criar um Projeto de Lei, fazer uma nova "MP maquiada" alterando alguns trechos ou incluindo justificativas para escapar de uma reedição literal ou sei lá... se quiserem eles dão um jeito de incluir isso em algum tipo de "pacote fiscal" no futuro.

O que me preocupa é que a novela não deve terminar aí... já li que isso não é só coisa do governo Lula não, tanto a Receita quanto o BC dizem que as criptos geram movimentações bilionárias que não são tributadas, oque é verdade.... mas tu já viu um governo não querer crescer o olho para aquilo que tá dando sopa e não podem meter a colher? Os cara até permitiram as bets em um país onde os cassinos sempre foram probidos, oque vai impedir eles de tributar as criptos e fechar isso que já chamaram de "brecha fiscal" ?

Fora que eles já sacaram também que o Bitcoin e as stables vão atrapalhar bastante os planos deles de criar e popularizar o Real Digital e aquele Drex que tão chegando em 2026.

Aiai... será que to sendo muito pessimista? Ou dá pra continuar sonhando?

Que notícia maravilhosa!
Mas só pra deixar claro pra quem  não leu a notícia ou esteja por fora do assunto (o que é difícil né, kkkk)... essa MP não foi votada no plenário antes do prazo expirar, na verdade o plenário simplesmente se recusou a incluir ela na pauta e então a MP simplesmente "caducou" e asiim as mudançss que estavam previstas para entrar em vigor no ano que vem simplesmente não vão mais acontecer  por enquanto.... a MP perdeu a validade, não foi sequer votada contra, a lei nunca foi confirmada.

Enfim, seja porque foi votada contra ou porque caducou, oque importa é que temos uma vitória... pra quem como eu que já estava se conformando em ter que pagar mais imposto, isso é quase como se fosse uma "reviravolta" de algo que já estava valendo, eu já tinha me conformado pelo menos


Uhum... me convenci de que o papai noel existe de verdade, voltei à acreditar nisso após 30 anos

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Of course, I am not a big fan of any shitcoins, even though it may not hurt to have 1% to 2% of your bitcoin holdings in various shitcoins in order to experiment with having various options, yet I would surely not consider them as much of a hedge or an investment, but instead as a way to play around and learn about various other things going on in the space, that may or may not be scammy.

Some guys cannot resist temptations to trade and/or to gamble, and so I recognize that gambling can be quite a slippery slope and even cause a sucking of value into trades, whether that is trading bitcoin or getting involved in shitcoins, and I would recommend to have no more than 10% of the value of your bitcoin holdings involved in shitcoins and/or trades, yet of course, guys can figure out if there might be situations in which it might be justified to override such self-imposed limitations.

I cannot recall ever having any more than 2% of the size of my bitcoin in shitcoins, and that was perhaps during that days in which we were rewarded bcash in late 2017, so it was ONLY temporary that I had that many shitcoins, and I have retained a few shitcoins just to watch them, and all of them added up are less than 0.5% the size of my bitcoin holdings... and I am not even sure if it matters which ones I hold, since I don't necessarily give them much attention or even buy or sell them. They just sit in my various wallets (or on exchanges) as just in case ways to potentially transact... and so just a means to give me transaction options if there might be circumstances in which such options might suddenly come up.

Regarding ethereum specifically, I think that I first got exposure to it in 2017.  I bought a certain quantity of them that might have been in the ballpark of 1% of my BTC investment portfolio.., and the price was around 0.06 of a bitcoin, and then I sold about 75% of what I bought when the price was bouncing around 0.09% of a bitcoin, and soI have been holding the remaining portion of that Ethereum ever since without really thinking about them, except that I had to move them around a few times between exchanges and then also on a hardware wallet.   I don't give too many shits about whether they go up or down or go to zero.

I have owned BNB since about early 2018.  I bought it because Binance had advertised it as a way to receive discounts on trades on their platform (which applies to buying and selling BTC), so the fees would be like 25% less or something like that, so bought a certain quantity of BNB at around $13.50 per coin, and I thought that the supply would last me a couple of years of trading, and so in the past 7.5-ish years, I have been using that same supply of BNB, and I still have right around 2/3rds of the quantity of what I bought, and the other 1/3 had been being used to pay trading fees and to receive discounts on trading fees.  The value of my BNB holdings in dollar terms is about 65x greater than the amount that I paid for them.  So that has been a pretty good shitcoin buy, even though I hardly give any shits about them, and I have not been active in buying/selling them  - only just using them to pay trading fees on Binance, and there surely have been a lot of times that folks suggested to remove all coins from Binance and/or that Binance US is for sure going to get closed in the USA and blah blah blah, and sure in about 2020, I was forced to discontinue using Binance, so I ended up creating a Binance US account and moving whatever I had on Binance over to Binance US.. and even with Binance US, they had frequently suffered issues of hardly having any trading, and other likely mostly trumped up charges of their averting US laws blah blah blah.

I mostly don's use or play around with shitcoins, even though my experience with BNB has been pretty good, even though I had been just using it as a utility coin without paying hardly any attention to it, except that I had been ongoingly glad that it was both saving me trading fees and largely paying for itself in regards to any trading fees that I had been paying on Binance and/or Binance US over the past 7.5 years-ish.

I cannot really say what you should do with your shitcoin(s) (aka ethereum) or anything else like that, and your current holding amounts of ETH (6-75 of the size of your BTC holdings) are within acceptable limits, even though it also seems a bit high.

Your reasons for holding ethereum is likely meant as a bitcoin hedge, and I don't really agree with that, yet even with a hedging justification, you are not really holding a lot... even though your BTC had gone up overall, yet since 2021 they have largely been down compared with BTC, especially since their dumb ass move into proof of stake in mid-2022 - hardly seems to be a justification to continue to hold that crap, even though surely I just kept holding the token amount that I was holding since I hardly give any shits about the portion that I am holding.


Just because you held through a whole 4-year cycle does not mean that you should be considering selling any of your coins, even though you might assess and reassess what you had been ding through the 4 years that you had been holding bitcoin and allow what you had been doing to help to inform you the extent to which you have accumulated enough coins or if you need to keep accumulating.

4 years might not even be nearly enough time to accumulate enough BTC in order to change the strategy, even if the person may well be in decent profits.

Let's say that a person with an income of around $30k per year had been accumulating in the ballpark of 17% of his income in bitcoin, which would be about $100 per week and around $5k per year, and so over the past 4 years he may well could have had invested $21k into bitcoin and accumulated right around 0.55 BTC.   

I would conclude that that the guy is in a pretty damned good position to have had been able to accumulate more than 0.5 BTC in the past 4 year, yet at the same time I would assert that the guy is not anywhere close to having enough BTC, and he may well need to spend another 4 years, accumulating bitcoin at a similar rate and continue to assess his status in regards to whether he might start to change the way that he is accumulating bitcoin...and figuring out at what point he has enough or more than enough bitcoin.

You are free to come to differing conclusions about whether 4 years is enough and whether being in profits is a sufficient enough status in order to motivate you to change your bitcoin accumulation approach. 


To the extent that I claim to be human, we all die at some point or we are otherwise incapacitated or even diverted into "other projects."

And, yeah, thanks.  I am largely attempting to share some of my ideas that sometimes I will adjust and sometimes I might get confused by my own ideas or how they might apply to the points that other forum members might make, and so in that sense, each of us can attempt to benefit from these kinds of bitcoin/investing and/or cashflow management kinds of interactions.


I would not mind working with a ghost writer (or an assistant or a co-author) if there might be someone who I consider to be sufficiently compatible and willing to work with me through such a project, if we might figure out some ways of organizing it and going through it.


I am not opposed to anything like that, even though it might be better carried out through a thread that would work around such topic, even if it were to end up as some kind of a group project.  For sure, guys have varying skills, and even some guys could contribute aspects of their own stories, if that might be filled into certain segments of such a book and/or one of the editions, if something like that were to be able to be carried out.


I do have this thread as "self-moderated," so it is true that I could either delete posts or try to push guys to somehow relate their discussion to my various investment ideas, rather than going all over the place and into generic discussions as you describe them.

It seems a slippery slope, and I am reluctant to delete posts unless they deviate in fairly great and/or even purposeful ways that come off as trolling, shilling and/or going into non-substantive personal attacks.. .but yeah, you are correct that the thread was hardly active for the past nearly 4 years, yet in the past few weeks it became active, yet that still might not motivate me to want to go into deletion mode - at least not so far.

I think that when most gamblers login to a casino platform to gamble, they are less concerned about the games with lesser risk than others and more concerned about gambling on their favorite game which happens to the game that the have the best knowledge about.

It is only a few number of gamblers who concern themselves with games that have a low house edge as a way to maximize their chances of winning.

With more knowledge on casino games, we will have more gamblers who actually put this under consideration.

A little off topic but are we up-to 99 active users on the forum?
If it's a person to a slot, it wouldn't be filled within the stipulated date
Many people ain't really interested in slot game and loss interest more when the odds are lower.





Okay yes I'm many people


I'm guessing it's via Bitmover tool.

Would it be possible to keep this thread more focused? I have it coming up many times on my watchlist now but mostly they are generic discussions. 

Since it represents a small percentage of your portofolio I would say that you should ride it out this cycle. The reward/risk ratio is still pretty high and you should see whether the famed altcoin season comes or not. If it does that means that there is a bit more upside left for ETH too. However, as soon as you see the focus shifting from ETH to other L1 altcoins you should dump it. If you want to try some cycle trading as I've discussed with JJG in other places, you could dump it for a stablecoin and try to catch Bitcoin at the next market low.

I won't speculate where that might be or whether this cycle will be different and break previous patterns. We will find out soon enough. 

That is the obvious truth and as a matter of fact bad actors have exploited the decentralized services such as mixers and from my obvious experience mixers are really bad actors since there service could be exploited by hacker's and scammers and the trust issues with mixers being in custody of your coins while mixing in process, i think we should give theymos the kudos for taking the bold steps, stop mixer promotions around the forum, promoting mixers services is like promoting ponzi scheme again regardless how much they offers.

For now to get some level of trust one must be ready to give up privacy, since trust have become highly expensive, alot is happening in both the centralized and decentralized bitcoin services like exchange and mixers and for thsy we have to be more careful as actors to avoid getting caught up in any web.

If core devs stop developing because nobody uses their software anymore what would Luke do[/quote]

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Autor: GazetaBitcoin
Topic original: Phil Zimmermann's thoughts about PGP - We all should read them

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Uz Kriptoanarhistički manifest i Cypherpunk manifest koje smo u prošlosti predstavili ja i, respektivno, bitmover, mislim da je još jedna priča koju morate pročitati je ona iza PGP-a, kako ju je ispričao sam Phil Zimmermann: Zašto sam napisao PGP.

Esej je napisan u lipnju 1991. i ažuriran 8 godina kasnije, 1999.

Izražava Philovu zabrinutost zbog privatnosti, uključujući bilo koju vrstu privatnosti - od privatnih razgovora do privatnih e-poruka, razglednica i tako dalje.

„Pravo na privatnost implicitno je prošireno kroz cijeli Zakon o pravima. Ali kada je donesen Ustav Sjedinjenih Država, Oci osnivači nisu vidjeli potrebu da izričito navedu pravo na privatni razgovor“, navodi Phil od samog početka.

On mudro pokazuje da svatko ima pravo na privatnost! Nažalost, ne vode svi računa o ovom važnom aspektu svog života. Ali ovaj esej bi mogao inspirirati one koji ga pročitaju. Objašnjava zašto bi ljudi trebali zatvoriti vrata pred onima koji narušavaju njihovu privatnost. Pokazuje zašto bi ljudi, iako nemaju što skrivati, trebali imati pravo reći "ne!". Pokušava vam otvoriti oči da se brinete o svojoj privatnosti, koja je jednako dragocjena kao i vaše vlastito tijelo.

„Ako ste zaista građanin koji poštuje zakon i nema što skrivati, zašto onda ne šaljete svoju papirnatu poštu uvijek na razglednicama? Zašto se ne podvrgnete testiranju na droge na zahtjev? Zašto vam je potreban nalog za policijsku pretragu kuće? Pokušavate li nešto sakriti? Ako skrivate poštu u omotnicama, znači li to da morate biti subverzivni aktivist ili diler droge, ili možda paranoični luđak? Imaju li građani koji poštuju zakon ikakvu potrebu šifrirati svoju e-poštu?"

Sve navedeno su retorička pitanja. Ipak, trebalo ih je napisati kako bi ljudi razumjeli svoju situaciju - situaciju u kojoj su vlade i agencije za provođenje zakona (koje su dulje ruke elita) gladne osobnih podataka, financijskih informacija svojih građana, gladne podataka, velikih podataka, a kako bi nahranili tu glad, uveli su nadzor koji se sve više razvijao, kako se sama tehnologija razvijala. Od prisluškivanja do ozvučavanja telefonskih linija i presretanja e-pošte. Nema razlike: metodologija se promijenila, ali cilj je ostao isti - vlade moraju znati sve o građanima, bilo dobrim ili lošim.

„PGP osnažuje ljude da uzmu svoju privatnost u vlastite ruke. Postoji sve veća društvena potreba za njim. Zato sam ga i napisao“, objašnjava Phil na kraju. Svi bismo trebali poslušati njegove riječi!

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P.S.: Za više materijala o PGP-u, nullius nedavno je napisao dva iscrpna i izvanredna posta (ovdje and ovdje).

Hvala, nullius, za tvoje tekstove! Inspirirao si me da ovo napišem!

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We're glad it worked! Keep coming back and claim more SATS

O Vitalik Buterin (criador do Ethereum) já falou sobre um "mixer com KYC".. mas ai perde o sentido né.. seria o mesmo que enviar para uma exchange.

Um mixer que faça uma análise das moedas poderia resolver isso, o problema é que os hackers iam mover moedas recém roubadas antes de seus endereços entrarem no sistema.. então não mudaria muita coisa.

Blackjack is the most solid game if you want the lowest house edge  as much as possible. Using the perfect strategy from table matrix will give you that 0.5% theoretical house edge.

The good news about playing online blackjack is you can always refer to the table when playing and use it as guide.

The only cons is you will play slowly compared to game like plinko and dice that gives an instant result with low house edge too.

Maybe you need to choose low house edge games since maybe it can lessen your chances to lose.

I tried to find some games that has low house edge or risk for losing and this what I saw.


Source https://casinobeats.com/features/casino-games-with-lowest-house-edge/

But still even if we choose those low house edge game, everything will still depends on the approach done by gamblers since if they are greedy there's really huge chance for them to lose and will get nothing in return after they finish or done playing.

the problem i have with the bonuses betfury adds to my account every week is not the wagering requirement, that's the same everywhere... it's the 1.5x max claim.
imagine you hit something big, and then you finds out you can only keep 1.5x of the original bonus amount.

you mainly have medium and low volatility slots, but usually casinos won't let you wager on them with bonus money.
last time i had bonus money that needed wagering on betfury (from the forum contest), all my favorite hacksaw medium volatility slots were disabled.

Pois... fiquei curioso tambem.
Sei que houve uma confusão com o AB de Royse777, mas foi esclarecido e nada tem haver com essa campanha. Julgo que um casino qualquer fechou, tambem nada relacionado.

Não vi mais nada de relevante.

Agora, estou mesmo a ver que vão dar explicações numa board qualquer e eu nunca vou encontrar. 
Se souberem de algo, digam.




Para um serviço semelhante surgir, será preciso o criador pensar um pouco fora da caixa, de modo a equilibrar todo o sistema para tentar evitar esse abuso da lavagem de dinheiro. Não é fácil, mas acredito que seja possível.

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Of course, the specifics of allocation and reallocation are going to differ from person to person, and so many times in traditional investments, there may well be allocations to various asset, so when you invest over a long period of time, then you bring your assets back into their original balances, which from my thinking largely ends up being that you end up watering your weeds rather than watering your plants.

My initial allocation from investing was around 13.5% in bitcoin in late 2015, even though in late 2014, I was thinking that 10% would have had been a good enough allocation to bitcoin.

Yet from late 2015 to late 2017, my bitcoin grew from $250 to about $19,666 (which would have had been by about 78x), and then corrected back down to around $4k-ish and the various prices in 2018, 2019, 2020 (which would have had been anywhere between 15x at $4k and 50x at $13k) and my various other investments might have gone up around 70% during that time between late 2013 and late 2020... so part of my thinking about the matter of reallocation related to my thinking that I should let the winners (in this case bitcoin) ride and why should I be reallocating back into the losers?  except maybe in very small ways.. not in meaningful ways.

Largely, I have created some ways of selling on the way up and buying on the way back down which is supposed to serve as my own way of dealing with volatility and my own suggestion to myself that I have found a way to deal with issue of reallocating by mostly allowing my winner to ride by following my own formulas of selling on the way up, which I authorized myself to be able to sell up to 10% for every doubling, but I don't even really follow my own suggestion since I am selling less than 3% for every doubling.. yet Iam still good with that.

Earlier in this thread, I outlined how my own allocations had changed between late 2013 and mid-2022, yet I have not updated it since then... which I think that I have said enough to make my points about largely just letting the winner ride.



Of course, you have to be comfortable with whatever allocation that you have and prepares you for both likely scenarios and also for unlikely scenarios,. and at the same time, you are likely not locked in, so you might make tweaks to your allocations from time to time.

Sometimes you can adjust a little bit up or down rather than completely reallocating, yet sure, if you feel better by constantly taking away from your winner (bitcoin) and putting that into your various losers (your weeds), the there is nothing wrong with that, even though you might consider making adjustments so that you are not overly doing it and giving some room for your winner to continue to ride, yet it can take a whole cycle of up and down of holding through it, so even with myself, if you consider that my first cycle was the 2017 one, then surely there was some comfort that the correction was still around 15x higher than my 2015 starting point... and surely there are many of us who consider that it is going to be a lot more difficult for bitcoin to have major corrections, if there are not major price explosions to the upside, so guys waiting for sub $100k bitcoin might not get their satisfaction.. yet we never know, which is part of the rationale of having some diversification in our holdins of various assets...

Even though it likely is true that my average cost per BTC are much lower, in recent times I have been liking to suggest that even if my costs per BTC are around $5k per BTC, we might say that right now withe bitcoin prices in the supra $120k territories, then my BTC holdings are 24x in profits, and so maybe BTC prices might fall back to being only around $80k, which would only be around 16x in profits, and sure it is possible that bitcoin could correct beyond expectations and without going through a top before it goes through a long correction period.. sure it is possible, yet for me, I see no reason to be fucking around with trying to trade.  Sure, maybe it could be that I could sell some more BTC as the prices are going up, so instead of ONLY selling 3% for every doubling of the BTC price, then maybe I could shave off 6% or even 10%, yet it still might not matter so much to me if I shave some off at $200k  or if I might shave some off if we dip back down to $100k, even though my level of enthusiasm for selling may well be a lot lower if I were to be selling as the bTC price goes down rather than selling as the BTC price goes up, yet since I have already been ongoingly selling as the bTC price goes up since about $250k, I already have my system in place, so I could use money within that system  or even sell some extra BTC at any time, if I were to need some money or to be short on funds... or if I were to want to buy something that I don't otherwise have enough money.

Maybe if you are buying and/or selling,  you lose track of your cost of BTC, yet  there are surely a variety of ways to keep track of various assets that you have and to consider the extent to which you might draw upon them in the case that you might feel that you are at fuck you status or maybe at a partial fuck you status.. so sometimes you can start to be more elective with the kinds of work that you do if you are able to support yourself from your various investments, yet each of them is going to generate cash in differing ways, and I surely consider bitcoin to be the best cash generator of all of them, even though it is also likely true that it is better to sell your other assets first, before selling your bitcoin, since bitcoin remains the superior asset - which is part of the idea beyond sustainable withdrawal whether bitcoin is the only asset or if you might be supplementing other income and/or cashflow sources with your bitcoin.


Sure, it could be that we agree on everything, even though I interpret your statement as potential excuse for a newbie to delay getting started, whether you meant it that way or not.


Aggressiveness likely relates to how much of a person's discretionary income he is allocating to bitcoin investing, so if he has his finances in good order, then he can afford to be more aggressive, and if he does not have his finances in good order then he needs to be less aggressive, yet at the same time, sure knowledge and conviction might play a role in terms of how aggressive a person might feel that he is able to be... since if he has more confidence then he can be more aggressive, yet he still cannot be aggressive unless his cash flow management is in a strong place,  otherwise he woud end up transitioning from investing into gambling.


That is true.  Guys can  mistakenly go beyond their discretionary income, which is part of the reason to keep back up funds, and those kinds of practices have to do with having knowledge of cashflow management practices rathe than having knowledge of bitcoin.

You did not seem to be saying that in your earlier post.


Sure.  That is part of the reason that we need to get started as soon as possible since those are the kinds of balances of our cashflow and testing our limitations (financial and psychological) that any of us should be able to learn and get better at with more and more practice and reflection upon our practices.


Yes.  We agree that waiting is not a good idea, especially for newbies, no coiners, low coiners and/or people who perceive themselves to still be in their accumulation stages (which it can take a long time to get through the accumulation stage, perhaps 4-10 years or longer depending on the persistency, consistency, regular, ongoing and/or aggressiveness in investing.. including whether or not the investor is able to front load their investment into bitcoin.

You surely have an advantage over folks who don't know about bitcoin, even if you seem to have had been making mistakes in the past and not recognizing the importance in accumulating bitcoin.

Perhaps you are able to correct your ways of thinking, and at some point start to think about bitcoin differently, since many of us likely recognize and appreciate that any and all people who have discretionary income can be advantaged by accumulating bitcoin in a focused way for perhaps one or two cycles or more, and surely the amount of discretionary income that a person has and also the amount that they are able to prioritize bitcoin investing and/or perhaps front load their investment, then they can get to a status where it becomes reasonable to spend their bitcoin.

Of course, I am not against spend and replace, and I also recognize that guys who earn income in bitcoin might be more forced to sell some of their bitcoin to cover their regular expenses, so calculations might be somewhat different for guys who are earning in bitcoin or maybe engaged in activities where they are spending and replacing bitcoin, yet at the same time, we seem to be in the midst of perhaps the largest peaceful wealth transfer known to mankind from the no coiners and low coiners and over to the coiners, so each of us who has coins or obtains coins are likely going to benefit more directly from such wealth transfer as contrasted to those who either do not have coins or are lackadaisical in regards to how many coins they choose to have (especially when they have way fewer coins than what they could have had).  In the end, its totally up to you to figure out how much importance you want to place on bitcoin accumulation to attempt to do it sooner rather than later.


Of course, you can do whatever you like, yet personally, I don't recommend selling any bitcoin until you reach overaccumulation status, even if you perceive the BTC price to be high.  If you have not been spending the past-ish years accumulating bitcoin, then you better get started.

You may or may not be able to get bitcoin cheaper than today's prices, and since you don't know it is best to be accumulating bitcoin through buying in a way that is persistent, consistent, regular, ongoing and perhaps even aggressive.. it can take 4-10 years or longer to really accumulate a decently good sized bitcoin stash..

Let's say that in the past 8-ish years, you had an income that had largely been between $30k and $50k per year, and you had largely been investing around $100 per week into bitcoin, so then you would have had invested right around $42k and you would have had accumulated right around 4.3 BTC.   If your goal was to be able to live off of your investment and to have right around an $80k per year income, you would still be in the process of building up your bitcoin to that goal.

From my perspective, right now 4.3 BTC  would merely be capable of generating a sustainable income of about $23k per year, it also seems to me that whether you continued to add to that stash or not, by 2028, if your BTC stash were to be anywhere between 4.3 and 5 BTC, you would be in a position to be able to sustainably (meaning forever and ever) generate an income of at least $80k per year.. .including with annual increases in your income of 7%.    I think that would be a good place to build towards, yet each person creates and builds towards his own goals.


We have not had a whole hell of a lot of blow off UP, yet our corrections have not been very great either.  Ever since about October 2023, we probably have only had 1 or 2 corrections that might have gotten into the mid-20% territory or greater, with the correction from $109k to $74k being right about 30%.   Other corrections have largely been in the 5% to 15% territory, and surely nothing to write home about if they cannot at least get to double digits (not that I am rooting for down).. I surely would prefer to keep grinding up, and I expect that at some point the amount of up is going to "be allowed" to run a bit more (not that bears really have a choice).

I bet what is going on is that the bearwhales are reading your posts, and they are purposefully slowing down our move to $150k, just to fuck with you, LFC... Since from reading your posts, they surely would know which OG bullwhale to fuck with... hahahahahaha.. wouldn't have had imagined that having right around 7x entry level fuck you status would have had put you at bullwhale status... by the way, it could be the case that you ONLY have around 5x entry-level fuck you status if you might have had been selling a wee bit more cornz along the way without saying anything... .. yet either way.. it is not a bad place to be...and yeah, no need to confirm or deny, since we have a decently wide range of variables that affect how we might choose to deal with our coins.


I think that it makes a pretty big difference if you are merely selling some bitcoin from time to time, and accounting for your having enough or more than enough so you are merely reallocating into other assets or just making sure that you are not overly weighted in bitcoin.  

It seems that part of the problem that Loyce is highlighting is that his goal in selling the coins was to buy them back at a lower price, which frequently I consider that to be the wrong mindset for anyone who is still early in his bitcoin journey and still building up his bitcoin stash, so  in those circumstances, his goal would be to continue to increase the bitcoin quantity.

One of the problems in our early years in bitcoin we might not be sure exactly what we are accumulating or even consider that bitcoin's value proposition is so great that if we are not in it at the right time or when it does a staircase step upwards, then we are in a worse position because we lost our focus on accumulating..

Another thing that selling does is that it puts us into a waiting mindset, and so we are waiting around for the BTC price to go down rather than ongoingly buying, so we end up with fewer coins both because we sold too much too early expecting to be able to buy them back, and also we compound our problem by failing/refusing to continue to buy because we have it in our head that the BTC price has to come back down sooner or later, yet there are times in bitcoin's history when it never comes back down again... so then by the time we figure out that the BTC price is not coming back down, it may well be 30% to 60% higher, and we are still having a dilemma about whether or not we should buy some more.  A lot of guys go through such issue in bitcoin, so it is likely not even a matter of smart or dumb, but just getting caught up in our own attempts to figure things out, when we likely would be better off just buying at any price for a decently long period of time before we start to think about prices and the extent to which our holdings are in profits or not.

Don't get me wrong, there still could be ways to ongoingly, consistently, persistently, regularly and even aggressively buy bitcoin while at the same time playing around with trying to buy more on dips or having systems of holding a certain amount of the buy authorized for dips that may or may not end up happening.


Frequently for newbies, it is way better to stop thinking about bitcoin as a trade but instead a lifetime investment, and so therefore just keep buying regularly for at least 4-10 years or longer... but hey, whatever.   You do you.


Ongoing buying helps that, especially for newbies... yet figuring out the amount to buy might well be another story.. $100 per week?  $10 per week? or some other amount that is reasonably within your budget and of course within your discretionary funds.


I think that right now, as I type this post, bitcoin's addressable market is close to $1 quadrillion in today's dollars (that is about a 500x), and of course, by the time bitcoin gets to $1 quadrillion in its market cap, the addressable market may well become $10 quadrillion (in real terms, rather than today's dollars) based on the ongoing debasement of the dollar.

In regards to addressable market, I am partially referring to some of the work of Jesse Meyers

https://www.onceinaspecies.com/p/bitcoins-full-potential-valuation

I am still able to withdraw without KYC on MEXC. It is written on the exchange that people will be able to withdraw up to 8 BTC of a coin on the exchange. Some people said they force them to get verified but I have not gotten verified on the exchange till now.

You can also use exchanges like Hyperliquid and Aster to swap and withdraw without KYC needed.

É um dois em um. 

Lembram-se daqueles relogios que tinha calculadora, muito comuns dos anos 90?
Qualquer dia fazer um coisas dessas, e a pessoa anda com a wallet no pulso.   

I won 11$! Prize confirmed.

Você está olhando pro modelo MK4 (com teclado númerico), eu estou olhando pro ColdCard Q (com teclado QWERT, o mesmo usado em teclados de computadores). Os dois tem os mesmos recursos, o Q tem uma cámera melhorada.

Se a sua seed vazar... bem, é por isso que você tem que ter uma passphrase habilitada. Pra dar tempo de você criar outra seed offline, mover os fundos com segurança pra nova seed, mas se a sua passphrase for forte o suficiente, tipo mais de 16 caracteres e aleatória, talvez nem precise.

For sure it is not easy for some people to continue to save/invest, and with bitcoin, I recommend to try to get into a system that they are putting away money that they are not going to want to or need to tap into for 4-10 years or longer, so in order to have that kind of a commitment there is also some need for back up funds in the case that  some months the expenses may well be higher than the income or there might be other shortfalls in the income.

Small amounts do add up to a lot, yet it still can be difficult to be consistent and persistent and not to tap into the investment for 4-10 years or longer, and frequently it will take much longer than 10 years to get to a decently sized holdings, especially if a person only able to invest less than 10% of their income, and you are correct that there may be months at a time that they might not be able to invest into bitcoin because they have either determined that they don't have sufficient discretionary funds and/or that they might not be sure if they have discretionary funds until they get through such period of perhaps low income and/or high expenses.


It seems to me that the risk does not necessarily go down with the passage of time, and we also cannot expect that bitcoin is guaranteed to go up in value, yet so far in bitcoin's history it has continued to go up with the passage of time, especially over longer periods of time, so some level of comfort can come as our holdings in bitcoin become more and more profitable, yet the mere fact that our bitcoin holdings might be profitable would still not necessarily be a reason to either sell it or to stop accumulating it, depending on the size of our stash and the goals that we might have in connection with building up our bitcoin stash.

A relatively poor person, even one who had ONLY been investing around $10 per week for 5 years (which would be around $2,500) may well be tempted to tap into his bitcoin investment if it had doubled  or tripled (or more) in value based on changes in the BTC price, so maybe after 5 years if for some reason there is a spike in bitcoin's spot price, and their investment had gone up 5x (let's say to $12,500), so then he might still find it futile to be continuing to add $10 per week when the added value does not seem to be causing the BTC holdings to grow as much as the fluctuations in the value, so there could be times that the guy gets confused about what to do, when maybe it would be in his best interest to keep buying bitcoin, even though he also might have other good ways that he could use the money, too.. but at the same time, if he might ONLY be making $400-$600 per month, he might find it quite tempting to tap into funds that might be 2-3 years or more of his total income..

So there can be dilemmas for folks are struggling with their finances to keep investing into bitcoin or maybe to find some balance in regards to how they might benefit from having their bitcoin investment, and hopefully it is causing them a sense of security rather than causing them stress, even though they also may well have the obligation to make sure that their coins are protected so that they don't lose them or have them stolen from them due to lack of security.


It is good not to create unrealistic expectations and also to keep your expectations low, yet at the same time, it is good to have plans for a variety of scenarios, including extreme upside scenarios.  The more prepared you are for a variety of scenarios both financially and psychologically, then the less likely you are to panic and the more likely that you already have a tentative plan in place that will help you to potentially stay somewhat on course of your plan, even though sometimes it can be a bit stressful and nerve racking to figure out what to do in the event that bitcoin prices move a lot in one direction or another. 

So being prepared is better than not, yet at the same time, you still might feel some stress and even question your course of action, even when you have already prepared, yet your having had prepared will at least make it more likely that you will have had already thought through some potential range of actions that you might take under certain extreme circumstances that might play out.

Also, if you are planning 4-10 years of longer and you have already been in bitcoin for a year or two, you still have situations in which if you are continuing to buy, then each new buy that you make will likely have a 4-10 year timeline connected with it, so some folks might have plans in which they slow down in their investing as the price goes up, which may or may not be a good idea, yet each person has to decide those kinds of considerations based on how much bitcoin they had so far accumulated and if they are still accumulating bitcoin, then it may be better to keep buying, even if there might be periods in which they are buying bitcoin at relatively higher prices.. yet since they don't really know the direction of the bitcoin price, it may be a safer course of action to keep buying bitcoin, at least for a full cycle and maybe even more than that..

Maybe guys may well have to keep buying for more than a couple of cycles before they really get to a point where they might consider adjusting the persistence of their bitcoin buys... so a guy who had been buying 10% of his income into bitcoin after 10 years would have had only invested around 1 years of income, and his income likely had changed over the years, and also the cost of living had changed and the bitcoin price had changed... so after 10 years, he may well need to reassess the extent to which he has enough bitcoin or if he just keeps buying.  Maybe his bitcoin had gone up more than the cost of living, yet maybe they did not. There are no guarantees, so he should attempt to be prepared for a variety of scenarios, including ongoingly studying bitcoin and/or shoring up his cashflow management systems and practices.

There are more interest in Bitcoin now than before and that means the market moving by a significant number will require some time. When I started developing interest in Bitcoin, I was told by the friend that introduced me not to expect 10x in Bitcoin so easily that I should give it time because Bitcoin will require time to grow since the market cap is a little bigger now than it was before. Those words stock to my head and if they are true, which I believe they are, I'm sure it will require up to 10 to 20 years for Bitcoin to reach $1 million. This is speculation but I'm just trying to ensure I don't set targets that are too difficult to achieve.

The fact is that any exchange can freeze coins by referring to AML rules. That is why it cannot be said that any exchange is safe from that aspect. Usually, the first few transactions, especially the smaller ones, always go through without problems. Only after years of operational business without a single claim for freezing funds, the service can be largely considered safe.

Fungibility isn't a state of mind when you can get "scammed" by buying tainted coins.


Hyperliquid just locking accounts and saying "tough luck" is a serious issue. It would be one thing to just send the funds back to the user and another thing to require further verification. But, it sounds like they just freeze funds and keep them essentially, which I would classify as a scam.

The issue isn't about giving up custody of your coins and using a custodial service. I have done it many times in the past with exchanges I trusted. Look at the name of the thread we are writing in. What I do have a problem with is giving custody of my bitcoin to Russian Roulette-type of exchanges that may or may not confiscate and steal my coins based on arbitrary decisions they make. That I don't support. If you are ok with that gamble, fine. Be my guest.

Maybe no questions will be asked and maybe the coins won't get confiscated. But maybe they also will. You can't make claims that Hyperliquid doesn't freeze funds and doesn't ask questions when they have done it in the past. Again, if that is acceptable to you, feel free to use them. I would rather look for alternatives where the question of maybe isn't hanging in the air.

It didn't take days, just a few hours:


It was just a spike, with people wanting to take advantage of the ATH to buy or sell. In fact, if it goes up, it's because there are people buying well.