God, that would be a thing now days... my bad, I thought I got caught again
(Great estimation!)
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Please nuke Newbie spambot
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Difficulty doesn't just drop to 1 if no block is found for 20 minutes, someone has to find that block (20 minutes later) or otherwise find it sooner and (lie about it), Difficulty in the last few days was 500M, this means a few years for a high-end CPU to solve it, heck, it's actually even difficult for your average ASIC gear to solve a 500M block, an S19 pro would need about 6 hours to solve it, there must have been close to a petahash hammering testnet4 for that 500m to be sustained.
So, back to your proposal, It would take roughly 9 hours until the difficulty drops to 1, and mind you, there must be a single honest ASIC who would not abuse the 20 mins rule and won't mine his own blockchain, that honest guy would mine the 1/2 difficulty block and disappear for 20 mins, come back, hit a block, go offline, do this for 29 times just so that the broke folks can mine on testnet4, we all know nothing like that is going to happen.
And then again, the same guy that can hit a block of high diff, will be able to do the same for a 1/2 diff block; it would only make his life a little bit more difficult, but as I told you, a 1 PH worth of hashrate has been hitting testnet4, so whoever is doing that shit doesn't seem to give a flying fudge about cost.
Furthermore, your solutions lines perfectly with the proposed fixes of elimination the difficulty 1 all together, because here is the unsolvable issue related to testnet.
If difficulty doesn't reset = CPU will never hit a block.
If difficulty is always 1 during the entire epoch = thousands of
spam link removed by LoyceV will be created and constant block reorgs, all nodes will be rekt.
If difficulty keeps growing forever = even small ASICs won't be able to hit a block.
It's like a race where you would assume that everyone would be running on their own feet, then somebody bought a horse and started beating everyone else, you adjust the rules so that if the horse leaves, the benchmark now drops, the same horse leaves then comes back to break his "own" benchmark even more easily, you say you want to keep a high benchmark, you now just forced the horse to run faster and made sure not a single runner would beat him and that now everybody must buy a horse.
The next thing you know is, people start racing using cars, when that is fixed, they use faster cars, and the story is never going to finish.
There is really one possible fix to testnet and that would be a consensus of resting the entire blockchain at block x, x should not be anything more than 1,000, with a "currency" that resets every 2 hours, nobody would want to hoard it.
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Difficulty doesn't just drop to 1 if no block is found for 20 minutes, someone has to find that block (20 minutes later) or otherwise find it sooner and (lie about it), Difficulty in the last few days was 500M, this means a few years for a high-end CPU to solve it, heck, it's actually even difficult for your average ASIC gear to solve a 500M block, an S19 pro would need about 6 hours to solve it, there must have been close to a petahash hammering testnet4 for that 500m to be sustained.
So, back to your proposal, It would take roughly 9 hours until the difficulty drops to 1, and mind you, there must be a single honest ASIC who would not abuse the 20 mins rule and won't mine his own blockchain, that honest guy would mine the 1/2 difficulty block and disappear for 20 mins, come back, hit a block, go offline, do this for 29 times just so that the broke folks can mine on testnet4, we all know nothing like that is going to happen.
And then again, the same guy that can hit a block of high diff, will be able to do the same for a 1/2 diff block; it would only make his life a little bit more difficult, but as I told you, a 1 PH worth of hashrate has been hitting testnet4, so whoever is doing that shit doesn't seem to give a flying fudge about cost.
Furthermore, your solutions lines perfectly with the proposed fixes of elimination the difficulty 1 all together, because here is the unsolvable issue related to testnet.
If difficulty doesn't reset = CPU will never hit a block.
If difficulty is always 1 during the entire epoch = thousands of blockchains will be created and constant block reorgs, all nodes will be rekt.
If difficulty keeps growing forever = even small ASICs won't be able to hit a block.
It's like a race where you would assume that everyone would be running on their own feet, then somebody bought a horse and started beating everyone else, you adjust the rules so that if the horse leaves, the benchmark now drops, the same horse leaves then comes back to break his "own" benchmark even more easily, you say you want to keep a high benchmark, you now just forced the horse to run faster and made sure not a single runner would beat him and that now everybody must buy a horse.
The next thing you know is, people start racing using cars, when that is fixed, they use faster cars, and the story is never going to finish.
There is really one possible fix to testnet and that would be a consensus of resting the entire blockchain at block x, x should not be anything more than 1,000, with a "currency" that resets every 2 hours, nobody would want to hoard it.
Sorry OP. Fixedfloat fell off so hard a while back and is one of the services that should not be trusted anymore. I am not sure how you missed the details, but if you had searched around before, you would have just looked for other much better alternatives.
The service has already been tagged negative here in the forum by DT members
| | Pmalek | | 2025-03-04 | | Reference | | This service can freeze and lock your funds at any time due to arbitrary rules just because they and their partners don't like its history. |
I think they deserve a trust flag as well.
We’re trying to build on Bitcoin Testnet4
Testnet isn't meant to "build on".
ckpool is making it nearly unusable.
What makes you think it's ckpool that's doing this?
You may want to read
Testnet4 Mining (Discussion) (to start):
The areshole who is abusing testnet4 is better with mining empty blocks to avoid any block being invalidated if any transaction was not right
I would have guessed it's because smaller blocks can be broadcasted faster.
This is incredibly frustrating for the developer community. Either this gets fixed, or we seriously need a new testnet.
I've seen some discussion about how to improve testnet, but all suggestions have drawbacks again.
1. I'll let people read thread [ur=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5534176.0]oneminers dot com is a probable scam mining company[/url] and let them evaluate whether that thread is detailed, vague or something else.
2. I find it's weird you never respond to @mikeywith question and then creating another post which share same link/website again few months later.
3. Are you aware that creating reply with one or more big images seen seen as poor etiquette by some people?
4. Another relevant thread,
Growing SEO spam on Bitcointalk.
If you are in Europe you can fix them at Prague, At
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Have you actually tested them or do you work with them or what? the website seems fishy to me, they have hosting in Czech Republic for 3.4 Koruna, that's about 4 cents per kWh, last I checked the average power rate there is above 15-20 cents ,something is not adding up about a mining repair center in Europe where people hardly mine Bitcoin.
Don't get me wrong, not saying they are scammers, I am just thinking out loud.
For repairs in Europe
--snip--
As reminder,
oneminers dot com is a probable scam mining company. This user also claimed another service he mentioned on quoted post already rebranded into oneminers. This user keep performing SEO spam (by sharing link and keyword stuffing), where moderator take no action about it. Proof of his SEO spam can be seen on
https://ninjastic.space/search?author=serchan&content=oneminers%7Casicprofit%7C%22one%20miners%22%7C%22one%20miner%22%7C%22asic%20profit%22%7Coneminers.com%7Casicprofit.com%7Cminerboxes%7Cminerboxes.com%7C%22miner%20boxes%22.
Limited support towards some ASIC also the reason it's dead. Meanwhile P2Pool on Monero is alive and well with about 5% global hashrate.
That was probably a tiny little reason, i think it was compatible with most gears out there, what really killed it was PPS payment method, it nearly killed all non-pps pools, p2pool "died" a lot faster because on top of it not being PPS, it was not for the average joe.
Good point. P2Pool for Bitcoin still use PPS, while P2Pool for Monero these days use PPLNS.
I inspected it and it seems to be block mined with P2Pool software. I can't access website mentioned on it's coinbase tag, but i wonder whether they only use abandoned P2Pool software or did some modification.
Using p2pool protocol, you can tell for sure the coordinator can't steal your coins if a block is found, but setting that up is costly and requires some IT skills, which is one of the main reasons why p2pool was deemed dead.
Limited support towards some ASIC also the reason it's dead. Meanwhile P2Pool on Monero is alive and well with about 5% global hashrate.
Thanks for playing, everyone! I was excited to be able to see an o_e_l_e_o with ESG and PowerGlove yesterday.
Below are the final scores. A day or two after the end of the main event, all pMerit balances were cleared, but after that, there were no other pMerit adjustments. Since all of the bugs were also worked out by this point, these scores are probably more representative of actual skill than the scores after the main event.
| ESG | 17855 |
| PowerGlove | 11371 |
| ibminer | 5119 |
| Cyrus | 2366 |
| d57heinz | 1709 |
| BlTCOINPostage | 1651 |
| Avox | 1600 |
| KosmoKisa | 1504 |
| XICO | 1474 |
| hopenotlate | 1411 |
| theymos | 1168 |
| infinitesimal | 1146 |
| mirtotanota | 1108 |
| Jewan420 | 1093 |
| Mitchell | 1055 |
| iv4n | 1045 |
| joker_josue | 1036 |
| pdneves | 1022 |
| Youngrebel | 1016 |
| kingbj21 | 1015 |
| jackielove4u | 1012 |
| hisslyness | 1009 |
| mocacinno | 1007 |
| garlonicon | 1007 |
| Thamizhan | 1006 |
| Findingnemo | 1006 |
| GIF-JOBS | 1006 |
| ranochigo | 1004 |
| JohnGalt | 1003 |
| vd309 | 1003 |
| Behat1981 | 1003 |
| just4kicks | 1003 |
| daverick_cgn | 1003 |
| Joca97 | 1002 |
| Sledge0001 | 1002 |
| rohang | 1002 |
| Tazzy4050 | 1002 |
| bitrsanch | 1002 |
| farou9 | 1002 |
| eminent1 | 1002 |
| Normalize | 1002 |
| MaxAlphax | 1001 |
| khaled0111 | 1001 |
| Ulven | 1001 |
| Tebe654 | 1001 |
| Koceila | 1001 |
| Rhema_Artz | 1001 |
| AlphaBoy | 1001 |
| Papablo1708 | 1001 |
| xOrpian | 1001 |
| July_Alaska | 1001 |
| Hueristic | 1000 |
| bubbaj | 1000 |
| JollyGood | 1000 |
| Steamtyme | 1000 |
| famososMuertos | 1000 |
| Unsoldier | 1000 |
| CR_Anders | 1000 |
| Frankolala | 1000 |
| smwangi | 1000 |
| KFC786 | 1000 |
| Suzume | 1000 |
| Faizan Zen | 1000 |
| Just Say | 1000 |
| yamin_galib | 1000 |
| Charltonleo2 | 1000 |
| Hell Boy | 1000 |
| hawkqs | 1000 |
| jackg | 999 |
| Strongkored | 999 |
| Wapfika | 999 |
| Seniorbrovai | 999 |
| Bitcoin_people | 999 |
| Mohamedlaoui | 999 |
| Leomiles | 999 |
| omargg 55 | 999 |
| Sd49budz | 999 |
| babo | 998 |
| romero121 | 998 |
| mistercoin | 998 |
| pawel7777 | 998 |
| Pascal Parvex | 998 |
| machasm | 998 |
| K4C | 998 |
| AbuBhakar | 998 |
| oleg1984a | 998 |
| DireWolfM14 | 998 |
| PrimeNumber7 | 998 |
| Danieleemilio | 998 |
| Stalker22 | 998 |
| Nothingtodo | 998 |
| Humble Bitcoiners | 998 |
| india012 | 998 |
| CryptSafe | 998 |
| Uruhara | 998 |
| Urfijaved | 998 |
| Pablo-wood | 998 |
| Cpt_reader | 998 |
| StealthsNet | 998 |
| criptoevangelista | 998 |
| N.O | 998 |
| Jamestown70 | 998 |
| Lucysathish | 998 |
| Olamidetechie | 998 |
| Dark.Look | 998 |
| safyan | 998 |
| Cypto2020 | 998 |
| Miramax12 | 998 |
| Borall12 | 998 |
| hoangty | 998 |
| ggtomeh | 998 |
| NodePhantom | 998 |
| elsoleado | 998 |
| Dup9601@gmail.com | 998 |
| Samang | 998 |
| user3 | 998 |
| Mackoshi | 998 |
| versaceicy | 998 |
| Ybs1p | 998 |
| Welsh | 997 |
| mv1986 | 997 |
| o48o | 997 |
| Aikidoka | 997 |
| hurr1cane | 997 |
| goldkingcoiner | 997 |
| rony01941 | 997 |
| Bitcoin_Arena | 997 |
| fillippone | 997 |
| Issa56 | 997 |
| Rikafip | 997 |
| NNRR | 997 |
| Charles-Tim | 997 |
| smmgoal | 997 |
| teleone | 997 |
| baeva | 997 |
| Ryu_Ar1 | 997 |
| HelliumZ | 997 |
| LivanoBerkbit | 997 |
| Leahized | 997 |
| Platinumys | 997 |
| Cryptohygenic | 997 |
| xmrhopium | 997 |
| Rappitman | 997 |
| Bluebird1357 | 997 |
| Ajam17700 | 997 |
| DVVRG | 997 |
| dimonstration | 996 |
| therealfalcon | 996 |
| ovcijisir | 996 |
| Liliana1304 | 996 |
| goldenmonke | 996 |
| Jostern | 996 |
| Hdhdhehehhe | 996 |
| BayAreaCoins | 995 |
| Mohon561 | 995 |
| Abdulzuruku01 | 995 |
| user_not_here | 995 |
| Yoona_As | 994 |
| RafiAhmed629 | 994 |
| blomen | 994 |
| Reham00 | 992 |
| Bhadmhi | 991 |
| Bluedrem | 991 |
| Ginz_24 | 986 |
| iron77 | 983 |
| Omikifuse | 982 |
| drpxxx | 965 |
| ChiBitCTy | 964 |
| Cointxz | 942 |
| Obari | 938 |
| Hatchy | 931 |
| Beparanf | 930 |
| Swaggman | 913 |
| vittosport | 862 |
| finitemaz | 814 |
| JayJuanGee | 717 |
| Ricardo11 | 711 |
| sargon_silda | 643 |
| Jessie2121 | 630 |
| tread93 | 625 |
| xhomerx10 | 599 |
| L4rs_ | 347 |
| 5tift | 242 |
| edy_58 | 192 |
| AG0RA | 191 |
| TheButterZone | 150 |
| Vaskiy | 150 |
| Hermes Mercury | 150 |
| Mbitr | 150 |
| mikeywith | 150 |
| clear cookies | 150 |
| Majestic-milf | 150 |
| Mia Chloe | 150 |
| Naser9220 | 150 |
| TalQ8 | 150 |
| meser# | 149 |
| Sexylizzy2813 | 149 |
Buy BTC instead, you still have the chance to get 2,3x easily, with mining, you are more likely to lose money than to breakeven.
yeah mining for profit is basically a done deal