هذا هو السبب بالضبط الذي يجعلني أعتقد أنها مشكلة أكبر وليست أقل. الخدمة رقمية وبالتالي لا يوجد موقع حقيقي نظرًا لعدم وجود حدود مادية، لذلك يبدو من الغريب تقسيم التراخيص حسب الإمارة. بينما شركة الأغذية لديها موقع مادي، لذا فإن الحصول على ترخيص لكل موقع يُعد أمرًا منطقيًا.

فترة السماح هي مجرد افتراض منطقي، ومع ذلك تبقى افتراضًا لأنها لم تُحدد فعليًا في القرار. سيتعين على الشركات انتظار مزيد من التوضيحات حول ما إذا كانت هناك فترة سماح فعلية أم لا.

نعم، تم فرض عقوبات على هذه المنصات الست سابقاً Nobitex و Wallex و Bitpin و Ramzinex و Shelbit و Aban Tether. لكن Nobitex وحدها كانت تمثل حوالي 70% من حجم تداول العملات المشفرة الإيرانية و 11 مليون مستخدم في ذروتها. لذلك، بينما ربما تم فرض عقوبات عليهم، فإن ما نريد معرفته حقاً هو ما إذا كان المستخدمون قد تم منعهم فعلياً من المنصة، أم أنهم وجدوا طريقة أخرى لاستخدامها بعد كل عقوبة.

لا اعلم ماعلاقة سرقة مثحف او سوق بالموضوع الذي نناقشه, ولكن لابسط عليك المسئلة, تخيل انك تمكنت من اختراق منصة باينانس وايضا اخترقت نظام مصرف في ايطاليا, ايهما الاسهل لتصريف ماتود ان تسرقه؟ بدون اذنى شك باينانس ستكون اسهل, كل ماعليك فعله هوا انشاء عنوان بتكوين او ايثيريوم وتحويل الاموال عليه وحتى هده المرحلة يمكنك البقاء مجهول الهوية, في المقابل في حال اخترقت المصرف الايطالي الى اين ستحول الاموال؟ يجب عليك تحويلها الى حساب مصرفي باسم شخص ما لديه حساب مثلا في مصرف في القاهرة, ثم عليك انتظار تأكيد الحوالة التي قد تستغرق بعض الوقت وربما تتطلب تأكيد بشري, ومن ثم حتى لو وصلت الاموال الى ذلك المصرف لن تنتهي القصة, لو كان الحساب ملك لك فسوق يتم القبض عليك مباشرة, ان كان لصديقك ايضا كذلك, ان كان لشخص اخر قمت انت باختراق بياناته فما زال لديك الكثير لتقوم به لكي تضع المال تحت تصرفك.

Yes, the withdrawal option is activated when you have anything to withdraw (no money = no withdraw option - simple as that).


This is a bug, for a very logical reason - you can't make a withdrawal without making a deposit first.


They found out today about it and it was forwarded to their technical department:



Can you explain to me how you would like to make a withdrawal without making a deposit first?

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You left out a very important fact. Every day (within 24 hours) two withdrawals in Reels are with zero fees.

I think this is worth clarifying, and we’ve actually already removed the 18+ confirmation from the platform because we can see that some people were interpreting it differently.

The 18+ checkbox was never intended to be a KYC or age verification procedure. It was simply a self-declaration and a general responsible-gaming notice. We did not ask users to upload any documents or provide any information to prove their age.

To be clear, we do not collect or store identity documents or personal verification information from users, and we have no plans to introduce such a system. This is why we describe the platform as No KYC.

Know Your Customer (KYC) normally refers to an identity verification process used by financial services, casinos and other platforms, where users may be required to provide documents or other personal information to verify their identity.

The 18+ checkbox was therefore never meant to contradict the No KYC approach. It was simply a formal confirmation that the user understood the platform was intended for adults and that we are not responsible for losses or similar claims.

For example, many websites simply ask users to confirm that they are 18+ without requiring them to submit an ID or other documentation. The confirmation itself does not make it a KYC procedure.

To avoid any further confusion around this, we have removed the 18+ checkbox altogether. There is no identity or document verification on our platform.

If you have any further questions about this, feel free to ask. We’ll do our best to answer them and clarify anything that may still be unclear.

Hold up here, I am not accusing AlfaBet of anything, I never got scammed. Please read exactly what I said.

I merely stated the facts on what happened. Let me just list out what exactly happened.

1. Let me try my best to quote it in the wording they sent me. "100% bonus on a 4K Deposit, 400% bonus on a 10K Deposit, with 0x wagering requirements." But after I said its too good to be true and its a massive red flag, they changed it to 5x Wager requirement for the 400% bonus, even insisting that they missed out that information when they first sent it to me, even after we had like close to an hour long conversation about me trying to tell them no casino in the world will offer such an  offer.

2. He deleted the entire Telegram Chat straight after he saw my post on the forumn

3. He did send me 15K but it was Non-Withdrawable. No idea why he is making it seem like he gave me 15K Balance with 0x wager requirement as if I could withdraw it if I wanted to. I literally have 0 activity on the site, which casino will give a new player 15K withdrawable cash just because he asked

You’re absolutely free to discuss the terms and share your opinion about them. However, we don’t agree with the assumption that this policy is some kind of “trick” based on players not reading the Terms.

The withdrawal conditions are openly stated in our T&C, and the first two withdrawal series per day are free. The 10% fee applies only from the third series onwards. Different casinos use different withdrawal policies, and the fact that you haven’t encountered this particular model before doesn’t mean it is hidden or designed to mislead players.

بصراحة، الخلاطات ليست فعالة باستمرار. العديد من الخلاطات الأكبر، مثل Tornado Cash، تخضع للمراقبة أو العقوبات. وهذا من شأنه أن يحد من الخيارات المتاحة إلى حد كبير.

أيضاً، لقد قرأت المقال، لكنني لم أتمكن من العثور على هذه الجزئية. تصف مصادر متعددة هذا بأنه الجزء الأخير من حملة Operation Economic Outcast ولكن لا يذكر أي منها أن جميع الخيارات البديلة للوصول إلى هذه المنصات المتاحة لإيران قد تم فرض عقوبات عليها. هل يمكنك إرفاق رابط هذه الجزئية؟

رخصة VARA فعلا بتاخذ 3 الى 9 شهور بس هذا اسرع من اغلب الانظمة المنافسة زي بريطانيا وسنغافورة، فهذا الجزء يدعم كلامك.

ولهذا السبب، فإن الاضطرار إلى الحصول على ترخيص كامل في أبوظبي وكذلك في دبي يمثل مشكلة. لا يمكنك استخدام ترخيص ADGM بشكل متبادل لشركتك التي تتخذ من دبي مقراً لها والعكس صحيح.

لذلك، إذا كنت ترغب في الحصول على ترخيص VARA في دبي ولكنك ترغب في ممارسة الأعمال التجارية في أبوظبي أيضاً، فسيتعين عليك التقدم بطلب للحصول على ترخيص ADGM كامل. وهذا يمثل مشكلة.

I support your comment foe not giving the final judgement now, but lohxuankai said the Op deleted the conversation in telegram therefore he can't provide any evidence from his end. And this has made the accusation complicated to judge, but looking at the Op here, the bonus system and some promises are not factual in mere looking. They looks like trying to lure people to their site.

They lied in this statement as well. I have opened account yesterday and there was no bonus given to the account instead I saw a deposit bonus. They would have said first deposit bonus of 400% and not opening bonus.

You are rushing the verdict here without any sort of proper proof to justify your statements. This may or may not be a scam site, but they should be given a fair chance to defend themselves especially when the accuser hasn't provided any proof at all.

Both of them clearly couldn't reach an amicable deal thanks to which they proceeded to slander each other. Think!

I think there is a bit of confusion between KYC, age verification and licensing here.

“No KYC” doesn't mean “no age check” or “no compliance”. In our case, the age check is simply asking whether the user is 18+. We are not asking for their exact date of birth, passport, ID or any other identity documents.

So there is a big difference between simply confirming “I am 18+” and actually verifying someone's identity.

A gaming licence is also not simply a requirement to collect a passport from every player. It is about regulating the operator and the gambling activity itself: player protection, responsible gaming, AML, security, game integrity, payments, reporting, etc.

Also, I wouldn't interpret “No KYC” as “the platform can never ask for any information under any circumstances”. Depending on the jurisdiction and the situation, additional verification can still be required.

So I don't really see a contradiction between a platform being No KYC and having a simple 18+ confirmation. The important question is what kind of verification is actually required and when.

Licensing ≠ KYC ≠ age verification. These are three different things.

Again, reading the terms is the player's responsibility. If they just accept the ToS without reading it especially the section with withdrawal informations such as minimum amount, fees, and so on, it will be their fault to missed this kind of information. This is also the first time I encounter this kind of terms and percentage of withdrawal fee. Most of the online casinos I've played at either they don't have a withdrawal fee or have a fixed eithdrawal fee depending on the crypto they used for withdrawal. So, maybe they can do anything about it or at least change the amount of fee when withdrawing funds for their players.

ToS can be changed with time and discussions for raising need of user community are parts of important ideas for ToS updates.

An online casino is created to serve users, to bring money to casino operators so generally customers first. They decide whether a casino succeeds with positive business revenue or negative one, so opinion from user community if valid, must be taken into consideration of possible ToS changes as one of top priorities.

The online gambling industry is very competitive and gamblers certainly have many options to choose platforms for betting. They don't have limited choices, and they don't have any restriction to only use any online casino.

The 10% extra charged fee for third withdrawal in a day and later withdrawals is too much, I agree with discussion here so far that it needs to be changed, lower it down.

Hard to use the excuse for not knowing the rules, while in fact upon registration there's a text below that remind the players to read their TOS.

So if they missed something, because they don't read it, then its their fault. If they just read that on early part, maybe those people won't will get confuse about this matter. Then could able to adapt with the rules been implemented by this casino.

Also I think that's good initiative already, if they don't want to be charge on their withdrawals. Maybe they should limit it to  once or twice in a day.

Well, that's actually true because it's the player's responsibility to read the ToS before they even start playing. It's publicly available, players just beed to take a little of their time to read and understand the important details they need to know such as this terms that there's a fee that will apply on the third withdrawal within the same day.


I don't see any problem with this as long as the first two withdrawals will remain as free of charge. Players just need to be mindful of the number of times they withdraw in a single day if they want to avoid paying extra fees.

We understand your point, but we don’t think it’s fair to assume that this policy is designed to take advantage of players who don’t read the Terms. The withdrawal conditions are stated in our T&C and are available to review before playing.

Players have two withdrawal series per day without this fee, and the 10% fee only applies starting from the third series within the same day.

نظريا كلامك صحيح، بس عمليا التنسيق بين 5 جهات مختلفة نادرا ما يكون سلس 100% زي ما تتوقع، حتى لو كانت الشروط متقاربة، مجرد وجود اكثر من جهة تعني وقت اضافي بالتواصل والتنسيق بينهم، خصوصا لو شركة نشاطها يغطي اكثر من امارة او اكثر من فئة نشاط بنفس الوقت.


أتفق معك 100%. لدي تحفظات على فكرة الإيقاف الفوري، لأن ذلك قد يضر بالمستخدمين الأبرياء وتصبح أموالهم عالقة دون القدرة على سحبها.

لهذا السبب أعتقد أنه سيكون من الأفضل فرض غرامة. عند فرض الغرامة، ستستمر المنصة في العمل وتكون قادرة على تعويض المتضررين.

ما رأيك في فرض غرامة وتحديد مهلة للمنصة لإجراء التغييرات اللازمة وتعويض المستخدمين، وإذا لم يتمكنوا من القيام بذلك في الوقت المحدد يتم إيقافها؟

كانت هناك حالتان هذا الأسبوع Duelbits و Bitget في نفس اليوم، لذا فإن الحوادث ليست نظرية بل تحدث فعلياً.

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The biggest advantage of Telegram Wallet is simply that it is already inside an app people use every day. Sending crypto without opening another app or copying wallet addresses can definitely be convenient, especially for small payments.

But personally, I still see dedicated wallets as more suitable for holding larger amounts. A messaging app and a financial wallet serve very different purposes, and I would rather keep those things separate. Also, some of the wallet features seem to depend on the user's country, so the experience isn't necessarily the same for everyone.

For me, Telegram Wallet makes more sense as a convenient spending or transfer tool than as my main wallet. The convenience is there, but whether that is enough to change people's existing wallet habits is another question.

No, If I understand it correctly the screenshot shows that the 10% is applied on the payout request on the third deposit in that day and so on.

Just as the screenshot stated, today, you deposited 3 times, let us itemized it

You made 1st deposit  and you played, then you request withdrawal, also known as a payout

All payout requests within the 1st deposit will be free, according to the screenshot, then your funds run out...

You deposited again, and that is the second deposit, you play and win and request payout 3x, all those 3x request will be free then your funds runs out.

You made the third deposit on the same day, then you play and won, now you request pay out, this time all request will be charged with 10% fee.


This is actually a rare event, I also don't see any casino having this kind of payout or withdrawal system.  It is either free of charge or charged depending on the transaction fee, or a fixed rate charge.

لا أعتقد أن الأمر يتطلب انشاء موضوع في ذلك القسم بمأن المشكل قد تم حله صراحة، أما بالنسبة للمنصة فهي منصة Bybit.

لست متأكدا أني فهمت سؤالك؟ ان قمت باستخدام عنوان من منصة مثلا لاستقبال المدفوعات من المنتدى مثلا، فسوف يتعين عليك اعطاء الموضوع، ربما حتى spreadsheet المخصصة لحملة التوقيع تثبت هذا.

ان قمت باستقبال مدفوعات في منصة 1 مثلا، ثم سحبت الأموال الى محفظتك، ثم قمت بالايداع الى منصة أخرى (منصة 2) و سئلت عن مصدر الأموال فسوف يتعين عليك في هذه الحالة اثبات كل هذه العلاقة (يعني pdf يظهر جميع المعاملات من المحفظة مثلا، صور من المنصة الأولى تظهر الايداعات الخ) و في النهاية ، و هو الأمر الأهم، من أين لك المال الذي تم ايداعه في المنصة الأولى؟

المشكل أخر كما ذكرت هذا الأمر أيضا هو ابقاء الأموال لفترة طويلة في محفظتك. مثلا هنالك موقع قمار أو خلاط قمت باستقبال المدفوعات منه في عام ما، ثم بعد أعوام، تم اعتبار هذه الخدمة (مهما كانت)  high risk لسبب أو لاخر، فهذا سوف يؤثر بالسلب على ايداعك حتى بعد سنوات من بعد.

كما ذكرت، يمكنك الاجابة ب 'لا أتذكر' ان كانت المعاملة معاملة قديمة مثلا، لكن لن يكون هذا في صالحك و قد يأخذ الأمور أكثر من اللازم.
بطبيعة الحال، لا يتوقع منك أيضا أن تقوم باثبات كل عملية يعني ان كان هنالك 200 عملية، ان تثبتها كلها، لكن من الأفضل أن تعرف مصدر أغلب أموالك (سواء كانت في المنتدى، قد طريق التلغرام، في الفابسبوك الخ) و خاصة خاصة ان كان هنالك أشخاص تتعامل معهم بطريقة منتظمة، لا يكفي أن تقول 'أبيع معدات التعدين في المنتدى' ان كانت عندك 15 عملية من عنوان محفظة واحدة و الذي فيه شبهة، يجب عليك أن تثبت أن 15 معاملة كانت بالفعل من بيع معدات التعدين عن طريق اظهار الرسائل بينك و بين الشاري مثلا.

بالمناسبة، المضحك في أمر Bybit هي أنها تملك خاصية للتأكد من الايداعات قبل ارسال الأموال لكنها مخصصة للمستخدمين VIP فقط. 

لا أدري ان كان الجواب مفيدا في سؤالك (الذي لم أفهمه تماما) لكن تفضل ان كانت عندك استفسارات أخرى.


هذا ما ظننته في الأول (يعني حول كون مبلغ الايداعات كبيرا) لكن بعد قراءتي لما لا يعد و لا يحصة من شكاوي المستخدمين[1]، لا أعتقد أن المبلغ له أي علاقة تذكر بكل هذا.

هذا مثال[2] قرأته البارحة حول شخص قام بايداع 14 دولار من منصة تم حظرها و الذي تسبب في اغلاق حسابه (لكن مع قابلية سحب أمواله)

[1] https://www.trustpilot.com/review/bybit.com
[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/ByBitCommunity/comments/1wlr58h/banned_by_bybit_after_8_years_of_loyalty_all/

Yes, that’s correct. The first two withdrawal series per day are free, and the 10% fee applies starting from the third one. This is clearly stated in our Terms & Conditions, so players can review it in advance.

Although I understand your point here, but even if Dogecoin is meme coin it still had a utility.

https://coinpaper.com/11479/what-is-dogecoin-used-for-its-key-applications
https://laikalabs.ai/market-intelligence/dogecoin-guide-2026-utility-payments-price

Also look at here https://coingate.com/blog/post/who-accepts-doge because you can see it here the merchants accept Dogecoin.

So maybe best not to look at negative aspects only, since there's better side using memecoin. Maybe that sentiments came from lots of scam  but that coin is provably different, since it already survive for many decades.