In recent years probably 90% of pools and competitions were under Sportsbet sponsorship. But already before last news about Sportsbet, there is more different websites sponsoring pools this season. Whale.io sponsor Ligue 1, Cross League Goal Madnesss, Rollbit Champions league, Rainbet Championship pool and etc. And maybe next season we will see even more different brands joining.
For me as player is a bit more convenient to have everything in one place, especially when you receive free bets. Butfrom other perspective, when there iscompetition, we can get bigger prize pool than when we choose from one potential sponsor.

And there is also Rainbet EFL Championship pool

I think we are doing okay - the service has been in operation since 2014 and our existing client base is quite happy

2) There has been no "bug" in the backend - the user simply sent the USDC after order expiry.

"Why would a deposit expire? It was sent from a service (that was slow, admittedly). I don't have a USDC wallet which is why I wanted to trade it. Can you send me XMR to [address redacted] ?"

If people believe that we "scam" them for 8$, they might not be our target client base anyway.

3.) Furthermore (upon review of the client comms):

The user had earlier today(!) [before our post here] already been informed that we will process a refund and is yet due to provide us with a refund address.

Naravno da je najbitnije mišljenje mjenačnice na koju šalješ kripto. Ako oni kažu ovo ne valja i treba preispitati, to će i uraditi. Nisam ljubitelj ovakvih softvera ali bar dobiješ nekakave informacije. Ako ti nekoliko stranica prepozna veći rizik kod bitcoina kojeg posjeduješ, povečavaju se šanse da će se isto dogoditi kad taj novac pošalješ na neki CEX i obrnuto.

Otvara mi samo praznu bijelu stranicu sa uključenim VPN-om. Možda ne daju da se pristupi stranici osima sa pravom IP adresom. Najbolje da mi skeniraju i lice i zatraže osobnu kartu prije provjere adrese, radi moje sigurnosti naravno.

Yeah, there are lots of cryptocurrency projects that aim to establish a casino, they do an ICO and only a few of them are still around.  It is a good thing that Betfury that, after all the setbacks and hindrances, they are still here actively operating and supporting the native coins.


Well, you are not the only one who was left with worthless token,  I also once hold a certain ICO project token, my holdings goes up to around $30k+ but was to greedy to think that it will increase more and did not sell on its peak only to end up with worthless token.  Now it is completely abandon.

Good afternoon!
Our project is backed by a dedicated team of developers, marketers, and support specialists. We are not responsible for other services and are fully focused on developing our own brand.
We would greatly appreciate it if you could try our service and share detailed feedback on its operational performance.

What a pity you didn’t even get to sell the amount you were holding. $27,000 is actually already a huge sum. It seems you didn’t immediately think of selling it back then,
and to make things worse, it even got delisted from the market.

Well, this is a big lesson learned for you. When you’re already holding that kind of value, you should sell right away because it’s already a sure profit.
These days, there’s no need to hold tokens for too long. That amount is truly regrettable to lose.

During the ICO season, there were several gambling platforms, but none of them really survived in the market, perhaps due to a rule prohibiting gambling platform tokens from being listed. I once held a gambling platform token. It was on the market and I even had an estimated $27,000. But foolishly, I didn't sell it, and it was delisted from the market, becoming a memory to this day.

THE WHOLE GANG FINALLY SHOWED UP!

nutildah came out of hiding, brought his entire crew, and proved EVERYTHING I said about coordinated shilling.

Let me address each clown:

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1. ZWEI - "Can't refute what doesn't exist" / "Sue me bitch"
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What "doesn't exist"?

Currency	My Calculation	BetFury Confirmed	Difference
BFG	99.22%	99.20%	0.02%
USDT	94.08%	94.07%	0.01%

BetFury's email to me (June 2025):

Source: BetFury support team response to my formal complaint

This is THEIR confirmation, not mine.

So when you say "doesn't exist," you're calling BetFury liars?

Former BetFury signature wearer defending BetFury by denying what BetFury confirmed. Make it make sense.

"Sue me bitch" - Professional argument from someone who wore BetFury signature. Class act.

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2. AHOYBRAUSE - "I'm not defending BetFury"
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Really? Let's check:

- Appeared in MY thread attacking MY evidence
- Made semantic arguments (win rate vs RTP) instead of addressing currency discrimination
- Showed up RIGHT AFTER nutildah removed BetFury signature
- Coordinated timing with Zwei
- Never addressed why BetFury confirmed different RTPs by currency
- Now claims "not defending BetFury"

If you're NOT defending them, explain this:

Why does BetFury's blackjack have:
- 99.20% RTP for BFG (house token)
- 94.07% RTP for USDT (real money)
- 71.15% RTP for BTTC (crypto)

THEY confirmed the first two numbers. Same game. Different currencies.

If you're "not defending" them, you should be AGREEING this is fraud.

Instead, you're here making semantic arguments and deflecting. That's defending.

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3. nutildah - FINALLY OUT OF HIDING
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Where have you been?

Your timeline:
- April-June 2025: Wearing BetFury signature
- June 17, 2025: Raised trust flag against me for exposing Stake
- June-September 2025: Actively defending BetFury in threads
- October 2025: I expose BetFury fraud with mathematical proof
- October 2025: BetFury CONFIRMS my RTP calculations (USDT 94.07%, BFG 99.20%)
- October 2025: You REMOVE BetFury signature
- October-November 2025: Complete silence while your crew (AHOYBRAUSE, Zwei) continues attacks
- November 2025: Finally appear with personal attacks, zero evidence

Let's address your claims:

"Check his trust rating"
You mean the trust rating YOU manipulated by flagging me for "manipulation" when I exposed casino fraud?

The flag you raised says: "extremely manipulative and has zero regard for the truth"

The reality: BetFury confirmed my calculations were accurate to 0.01%

So who has "zero regard for the truth"?

"He deleted posts"
Yes, I deleted Stake-related posts after exhaustion from coordinated attacks by YOUR crew.

You know what else got deleted? Your BetFury signature. Same month they confirmed my fraud evidence.

Coincidence?

"Obviously a clown looking for a payday"
Let's talk about paydays, nutildah:

Your own post:

You're literally borrowing money and planning to "escape to America" (your words in other threads).

Who's looking for a payday?

- Me: Exposing fraud, providing evidence, losing money to document it
- You: Wearing casino signatures, borrowing money, attacking victims, removing signature when exposed

"I'm doing something right"
Yes, you're doing reputation management right:
1. Get paid to wear casino signature
2. Attack victims exposing fraud
3. Use trust system to silence complaints
4. When fraud proven, remove signature quietly
5. Send crew to continue attacks (Zwei, AHOYBRAUSE, examplens)
6. Hide for weeks
7. Return with personal attacks when evidence becomes undeniable

This is textbook shill behavior.

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4. examplens - The Alt Account Accuser
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Claims I'm using alt accounts: polatov420, BlackyJacky

To moderators: Please investigate and clear this up. I am NOT these users.

To examplens: Appeared same day as nutildah's return. Coordination obvious.

Classic deflection tactic: When you can't refute evidence, accuse of alt accounts.

BlackyJacky has been on this forum LONGER than me, has DIFFERENT posting patterns, DIFFERENT issues with casinos.

Just because we both expose casino fraud doesn't make us the same person.

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THE PATTERN IS UNDENIABLE:
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Watch how the signature campaign crew operates:

Phase 1: Victim documents fraud
Phase 2: Signature wearers attack (nutildah + BetFury sig)
Phase 3: Trust system weaponized (flag for "manipulation")
Phase 4: Fraud exposed with proof (BetFury confirms calculations)
Phase 5: Main shill removes signature (nutildah)
Phase 6: Replacement shills appear (AHOYBRAUSE, Zwei)
Phase 7: When pressure increases, ALL come back with coordinated attack (Zwei, AHOYBRAUSE, nutildah, examplens - all within 24 hours)

This is NOT organic discussion. This is organized reputation management.

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THE EVIDENCE YOU CAN'T REFUTE:
═══════════════════════════════════════════

Stop with personal attacks. Address THIS:

1. BetFury's Confirmation:
They confirmed USDT RTP = 94.07%, BFG RTP = 99.20%
My calculations: USDT 94.08%, BFG 99.22%
Difference: 0.01% (rounding error)
I was RIGHT.

2. Currency Discrimination:
Same blackjack game, different RTPs:
- BFG (house token): 99.20%
- USDT (real money): 94.07%
- BTTC (crypto): 71.15%

If RNG doesn't discriminate by currency, explain this.

3. Sample Size:
Required for 95% confidence: 13 bets
I have: 6,678 USDT bets
Ratio: 514× MORE than required
NOT "insufficient."

4. Statistical Impossibility:
89% win rate in 13,998 hands
Expected: ~42-43%
Deviation: 93.54σ
Probability: < 0.0000000001%
Never occurred in 10,000 Monte Carlo simulations of fair games.

5. Your Coordination:
- nutildah: Wore sig, flagged me, removed sig, hid, returned with crew
- Zwei: Wore sig, attacks victims, "sue me bitch," defends proven discrimination 
- AHOYBRAUSE: Appeared after nutildah fled, semantic games, "not defending" while defending
- examplens: Appeared same day as nutildah's return, alt account accusations

═══════════════════════════════════════════
DIRECT QUESTIONS FOR EACH OF YOU:
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nutildah:
1. Why did you remove BetFury signature same month they confirmed my fraud evidence?
2. Will you remove the trust flag now that I'm proven right?
3. Why are you borrowing money if signature campaigns pay so well?
4. Why did your entire crew appear within 24 hours of your return?

Zwei:
1. When did you stop wearing BetFury signature?
2. Why say evidence "doesn't exist" when BetFury confirmed it?
3. Is "sue me bitch" your best argument?
4. Why attack victims instead of addressing currency discrimination?

AHOYBRAUSE:
1. If not defending BetFury, why make semantic arguments in MY thread?
2. Why appear RIGHT AFTER nutildah removed signature?
3. Explain BFG 99% vs USDT 94% vs BTTC 71% RTPs
4. If BetFury is "garbage site," why defend their RNG?

examplens:
1. Why appear same day as nutildah?
2. Evidence I'm using alt accounts?
3. Will moderators investigate and clear this?
4. Why deflect to alt accounts instead of addressing currency discrimination?

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FINAL STATEMENT:
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You ALL showed up within 24 hours. You ALL avoid addressing the evidence. You ALL attack me personally.

BetFury confirmed my calculations. Then claimed "no discrimination." Both can't be true.

India Gaming Bill 2025 (August 21) makes these operations ILLEGAL.

nutildah is borrowing money while shilling for casinos.
Zwei is throwing tantrums ("sue me bitch").
AHOYBRAUSE claims "not defending" while defending.
examplens appeared for alt account deflection.

This coordinated attack PROVES everything I said about signature campaign shilling.

Currency discrimination: BFG 99.20%, USDT 94.07%, BTTC 71.15%
BetFury confirmed the first two. Explain the third.

Stop attacking me. Address the evidence.

The community is watching. And now they see EXACTLY how you operate. 🎯

Hvala na tagu Examplens, vjerojatno bih propustio priliku bez taga, stvarno se brzo popunjava. Vec dugo nije bila nagradna igra na AltcoinsTalks, nadam se da ce se takve nagradne igre tamo vratiti u kolicini kao i prije.


BTW. Da li mozda znas da li se BTC koji se dobije od mixera u nagradnoj igri tretira kao "prljav" od strane mjenjacnica?
Pitam jer sam bio jos prije mjesec, dva osvojio isto 30 USD vrijednosti BTC-a na cold wallet na kojem imam druga sredstava (na srecu odvojio sam adrese, ali wallet je isti). Brine me sto ako posaljem sredstva na mjenjacnicu i posaljem i taj BTC dobiven od strane mixera, da mi ne zamrznu sva sredstva, jer ga vide kao rizicnog.

I miss whale in the games and round board!! I used to join all their activities there.

Whale had once a strong presence in the forum. Certainly many users discovered this casino due to these activities here (i am one of them). I hope whale come back in a few months.

I second this!

It doesn't have to be at the same high frequency at which you have held such competitions in the past, the main thing is that Whale as a casino is still present. The majority of us here would probably not have registered or even noticed you as a casino without your presence on the forum, so I think that at least in this respect, the investment in competitions and the signature campaign was a good thing

i did not know that... i wonder if anyone who invested at that time made any profit? checking the charts on coinmarketcap and coingecko, the price never hit a new ATH since the token launch.

no one is asking them to throw it away, but they should really consider adding more utility for it on betfury, as right now, it's only used for rewards and staking, and even tho the APY is somewhat good, you will be lucky if you break even with the token losing value day after day.

Oh, I remember those ICO campaigns. People earned thousands by investing a hundred bucks. Back then no one bother to read the whitepaper and to think if the token is really necessary for the project to function. Of course that they can't throw it away now. I can't find one single reason why a casino should have it's own token, but they should have thought about it back then. A token with no utility is destined to fail in the long term.

Thank you for your comment.

We understand why it may look this way, but a similar style of communication or posting is common in the crypto space. Many teams use short messages, focus on facts, add links, and stay transparent. This is a normal way to communicate, not a sign of connection between projects.

Even if you see some similarities with other services, it does not mean we are a bad project. We keep working, improving our service, and building everything honestly and transparently.

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    87. 2739424: NotATether (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (7) 9063 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    88. 2739454: Stalker22 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 1492 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    89. 2776678: Charles-Tim (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (6) 5976 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    90. 2796662: Lillominato89 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1121 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    91. 2836461: Free Market Capitalist (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2852 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    92. 3442614: YodasRedRocket (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 638 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    93. 3486361: PowerGlove (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 6583 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    94. 3506304: God Of Thunder (Trust: +7 / =4 / -0) (DT1! (1) 1335 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    95. 3540187: apogio (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (1) 2172 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

DT 2
     1. 3: satoshi (Trust: +45 / =0 / -0) (8032 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 4: sirius (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (824 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 1268: nanotube (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 2252: laanwj (Trust:  neutral) (34 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 2676: casascius (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (141 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 2759: midnightmagic (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (27 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 2786: Pieter Wuille (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (198 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 3318: Luke-Jr (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (191 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 3380: Vladimir (Trust:  neutral) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 3420: dooglus (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (334 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 4171: Raize (Trust:  neutral) (24 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

I look at Ekitike, he seems to be an exciting player. I like the fact he runs at defenders and is willing to cut in or run down the wings in order to again cut in or cross the ball. At Ł79 million he could prove to be a long term success for Liverpool. I think the long saga over Isak and the way he forced his move from Newcastle United did not help Liverpool or Isak and that for the time being at least is proving to be an expensive mistake.

I have no idea why Slot purchased most of the players but the balance of the team has gone. Something needs to change fast as they could be in for a very bad season. I am confident Aston Villa will go there and win today because Liverpool seem to be playing without a plan.

The London derby between Tottenham and Chelsea is going to be a fantastic game. I have a feeling Tottenham will win the game even though Chelsea will have plenty of chances throughout. As for Bournemouth, I remember the opening game of the season against Liverpool at Anfield. They lost the game but played extremely well. If Bournemouth take that attitude to Manchester City, they can get a result.

Fernandes has not been at his best this season. When he finds form, he will only add to what Cunha and Mbuemo are bringing to the team and with that Manchester United might be looking an unbeaten run for a several games.

From the group Slot sold, I would assume only three were probably key players. He had enough time and money to bring in adequate replacements but for one reason or another it has not worked for Liverpool.

Regarding Ferguson, he sold Mark Hughes, Paul Ince and Andrei Kanchelskis in 1995 but did not buy players to replace them. Instead, he brought through academy kids Gary Neville, Phil Neville, Nicky Butt, Paul Scholes and David Beckham to the first team. No manager has ever been that fortunate to have academy youth players progress to the first team with at least three world players in Beckham, Scholes and Gary Neville and two brilliant utility players in Phil Neville and Nicky Butt.

I don't think exchanges or even banks give a shit about where your coins come from, but the fines they've collected over the years make them compliant.

Here, they do. The last bank account I opened was for the kids, and they asked all kinds of question about what they'd use the account for, how much money they're expecting to receive, where it comes from, and if they have connections in Cuba, Iran, North-Korea or Russia. Yep, they have to ask those questions for young kids.

Many exchanges started anonymous, and as they grow, have to choose: face being shut down, or follow regulation. Compliance means Bitcoin is maturing. That leaves just small exchanges for anyone who still wants privacy.

I need to buy a gold mining setup and rent a place close to the river, I will get +10 grams of gold daily guaranteed, I studed rhe area and I know many people how mine there, it will leverage my reality and I will defenelly pay back, this is a desperated way I have to try get the funds

Thank you for your attention and detailed analysis.

We want to clarify a few points. YBEX uses a white-label solution, which means some technical parts and design elements may look similar to other exchanges that use the same platform. This also includes the KYC warning, which is a standard feature used by many exchanges to meet compliance and security requirements.

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We appreciate your attention, as it is important to analyze details in the crypto space. However, if you notice similarities with other platforms, it does not mean we are a bad service. Such similarities can happen because of shared technical solutions or templates. YBEX is an independent project built honestly and transparently, with long-term trust as our priority.

Chzangpeng Zhao is a very shady person and his past & business practices prove that. He praises Trump because he benefits from him. He is the type of a guy that will praise any person who will help him to forgive his shady practices and will give a green light to his business. What Trump does with the crypto is itself a criminal act to my mind (but it's my opinion and I'm not a law expert). It's funny that CZ gets pardoned by a guy who is convicted of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records.
The United States really had one of the worst Presidential candidates in 2024.

A member actually noticed that there are more exchanges, probably created by the same person or group of people. According to the thread, I saw about 6 of them, there could be more under the radar.
What is wrong with these Exchanges? Who copied whom?

I don't know what the end game of creating several exchanges is instead of concentrating and building one quality brand.

I was clear in the OP that you haven't done anything outwardly untrustworthy (hence the neutral tag,) but examplens stated it eloquently; you seem eager to build a reputation without engaging in the forum in a natural way.  That's suspicious.  You're not the first and you won't be the last, so don't feel like you're being singled out.  However, offering to provide escrow services with your lack of reputation is what piqued my spidy-sense.



As far as my tag goes, yes, you'll have to wait.  Maybe years, I don't know.

As for the others who tagged you, you'll have to take it up with them and convince them to revise or remove their tags.

Every time they change something in the website you get this message. Even if they only changed one letter, like the word GAMBLNG in a text missing the I and being fixed. All you need to do is reload the website and you will be in the latest version, but if you are in the middle of a game you don't have to do that with urgency

I'm posting a quick update a little earlier than usual because I felt a great disturbance in this contest.
I double-checked, Woodie is no longer in the first place. Anything is possible.

Pos	Users	28/10/2025
1	paid2	1 402,16
2	Woodie	1 254,22
3	Halab	1 215,64
4	GazetaBitcoin	1 203,62
5	internetional	1 202,95
	Bitcoin	1 128,99
6	ajiz138	1 091,90
7	sompitonov	1 086,53
8	LoyceV	1 063,62
9	DireWolfM14	833,62
10	memehunter	817,25
11	rat03gopoh	805,55
12	examplens	790,29
13	n0nce	768,96
14	icopress	752,48
15	GrosWesh	724,81
16	FinneysTrueVision	705,81
17	shahzadafzal	676,67
18	Smartprofit	668,85
19	B1g4udge	665,95
	Average	647,71
20	DYING_S0UL	637,02
21	tokeweed	557,77
22	Rikafip	526,27
23	LogitechMouse	522,09
24	Saint-loup	513,03
25	SamReomo	506,20
26	Taskford	493,41
27	jokers10	457,02
28	xandry	443,12
29	Despairo	432,97
30	cryptofrka	419,46
31	famososMuertos	364,38
32	bitmover	345,22
	Random_but_balanced	336,40
33	klarki	323,35
34	worldofcoins	313,17
35	libert19	282,17
36	Buchi-88	244,14
37	arallmuus	241,19
38	Koal-84	231,69
39	xLays	176,97
40	slackovic	147,01

                  

Line chart race : https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/23486883/
LCR without Woodie  : https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/24269401/

There really isn't much to worry about because a sports fan is still a fan and it depends on if they are die hard fans or just casual fans. A sports fan can also be a gambler and it has got nothing to do with them supporting their favorite sports side or not.

There are also some good bettors who don't watch live games or can say they are a fan of any clubs but because betting is a whole different ball game entirely, they can bet using analysis and history checks to pick their winning predictions.

That's a normal thing at Bitsler. I believe no changes are involved in the refresh. I have never witnessed any change after refreshing the page. They also give a pop-up message to randomize the client seed of the in-house games. But this pop-up message appears after a long time, not every day or week. I think the 'refresh' is related to the cache of the browser or a new session.