yes it was only for bitcoin wallet. For altcoins i can not buy trezor or ledger wallet im looking like a software wallet same as Cake wallet alternative.

It’s fascinating that you’re spending your time running my posts through AI detectors instead of focusing on the actual results.
​As a legal professional, I am trained to be precise, organized, and persistent. If my arguments are too structured for you to handle, that's a 'you' problem, not an AI problem. In these forums, we are used to seeing people post 'Scam Alerts,' cry over their lost money, and then just walk away without taking any real action. I am not one of them. Here is a reality check:
​While you were busy 'investigating' my writing style, I successfully forced a scam platform to activate my withdrawal button and admit to a $1,696.80 debt.
​While you told me to 'give up and move on,' I recovered $1,357.30 which is currently in the final stage of withdrawal.
​If being 'human' means staying silent and losing money, then I’d rather be 'organized and efficient.'
​I am here to share a masterclass on the recovery process, not to pass your literature test. Whether I use tools to organize my thoughts or not is irrelevant the results are real. If you're not here to help, maybe you’re the one who should 'move on' and find a job instead of playing detective with my posts.
​I will post the final proof of the full transfer soon. Stay tuned for the update!

First of all, why do you think I'm using AI? Is it because my arguments are too organized for a 'scammer' to handle? 😂 Maybe it’s just the result of staying calm and focusing on the facts!
​Now, let’s look at the results of this 'AI-style' pressure:
​Admission of Funds: After constant pressure, they officially admitted the debt and credited my account with the funds.
​The Stalling: When I tried to withdraw, they initially blocked the button. After I escalated again, they 'activated' it but deducted a portion of the balance.
​Current Status: They have now acknowledged the deduction, and I have successfully submitted a withdrawal request to my wallet for the available amount.
​I am not 'running after ghosts.' I am managing a recovery process. Once the transfer is complete and I have recovered the full amount, I will update this thread with all the evidence and screenshots to show everyone exactly how to deal with such platforms.
​Stay tuned for the final update!

they have all those fake testimonials uploaded to their youtube channel, we should all report it: https://www.youtube.com/@winvestai
youtube being youtube, probably won't do shit about it, but it doesn't hurt to try.

those fake testimonials remind me of another crypto ponzi where they hired an actor to play the CEO role. i don't remember the name but it was a 2 billion dollar ponzi, and the actor was only paid a few thousand dollars.

Thank you for your help.
I send withdrawal request of 300€ by Bitcoin.

But that really can't be possible. I sent my complete bank statement in PDF format. Then they say, “We'll accept it, but it's not enough.” Send us proof of lottery winnings, divorce papers, or home sales. Who on earth could come up with something like that? Salary payslip is also not possible. I haven't worked for the past three months.

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Problem with this is that those who are new to crypto think of it as some sort of magic money (because they keep listening stories about people getting rich overnight) so for them even 1-2% return seems plausible.

I see that scammer is also using alt account to shill the service, pretending that he is satisfied customer.

The winvest_com website uses Cloudflare bot protection, which requests a captcha. And as we understand it, Wayback machine cannot pass verification. Today's attempt to add the site to the Wayback machine was also unsuccessful due to the reason "This website uses a security service to protect against malicious bots. This page is displayed while the website verifies you are not a bot". This is the reason why I used another archiving service - http://archive.fo

I appreciate your input, but we must look at the facts. Many platforms start honestly and later face financial trouble or insolvency, leading them to delay customer withdrawals and manipulate balances. My goal here is two-fold:

1- To Recover my Funds: By using their own official admissions and the threat of a Registrar report as direct leverage.

2- To Create a Roadmap for Others: I am documenting every step of my strategy so that anyone facing the same 'stalling' tactics can learn how to apply pressure effectively.
​I am updating this thread with every development. If they think they can 'scam' more money or hide behind a grayed-out withdrawal button, they are mistaken. The global crypto community is watching, and the evidence is solid. I’m not just 'reporting'—I’m fighting for my rights.

I appreciate your advice, but there's a huge difference here. Exposing the $13 Million technical failure isn't just about the 'broken door'—it’s the leverage that forced them to stop ignoring my constant follow-ups. After their initial stalling, they finally sent me an official Excel report acknowledging my $1,696.80 profit specifically because of this public pressure.
​I am not 'moving on' yet; I am using their documented errors to squeeze my funds out of them. Also, I am taking your advice seriously: I am currently preparing a formal complaint to their Domain Registrar and hosting provider, and I will be reposting this entire thread on Reddit and Binance Square if they don't resolve this within 24 hours. A company exposed for a $13M system bug is a desperate one, and I will use that until my BTC is in my wallet.

There may be plans in future, lets hope for the best

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Thank you for your valuable insight and for sharing these links. It is now clear that ECOS has a long history of deceptive practices. I should have done more research, but my goal now is to expose their internal technical failures specifically the "208 BTC bug" and the negative $13M balance glitch—to prove they are manually tampering with user accounts. This isn't just a withdrawal delay; it’s a systemic failure. I will follow your advice and report their domain to the hoster to prevent others from falling victim to this $1,696 theft.

These giants don't die easy. It's far from unexpected they do steps in prevailing their business and their ways. I think that it's more realistic to expect to coexist with them for a (quite long) while.


Bitcoin is not only for hoarding. Some want to earn it and spend it. And it's okay, it's a currency.
And if those people have big difficulties on spending their coins, a solution that will make the things easy... it's not unexpected to be cheered for. You probably know that far too many don't care about white paper, philosophy, or they would give all the KYC details in the world for an extra buck.

I do understand your point, but let's not be so black-and-white, there's always something in the middle. And imho it's better to understand and educate; both parties could benefit later on.



So being realistic means that there's no room at all for other means of payment than the big established ones?
You seem to miss the fact that paying via QR is already spreading nicely, avoiding Visa/MC, even for fiat. You seem to forget the example of El Salvador or Lugano for Bitcoin payments.

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This solution is a step forward for proving (to the no-coiners) "crypto" usefulness as currency. And I do know that in most areas there's nothing else yet than Visa/MC.
I am not against their solution. But we have to keep in mind that it's a solution for them to stay in profit, not for helping us. And we have to keep in mind that our (long term) goal is a different approach.

Can we actually stay away from the fiat system, though? How do you pay for your insurance? Your electric bills, your credit/debit card? Let's face the reality. The cable and TV companies don't accept Bitcoin, and even the grocery stores don't accept Bitcoin yet, so how exactly are we going to completely stay away from the fiat system? The taxis, trains and flight tickets are not in Bitcoin. Hotels and rent are not paid in Bitcoin because they don't accept them yet.
How about people who have businesses and need loans from the banks? Do they get the loans in Bitcoin?
We have to be realistic. The goal of Bitcoin is not to make you stay completely away from fiat, but to give you an alternative.
So right now, you can hold your Bitcoin and pay for what you can with Bitcoin while keeping your savings in Bitcoin. Now, you're not forced to keep it in fiat, where it will easily be monitored or affected by inflation.
Whenever I want to pay for something, and they have the option of using Bitcoin, I use it. And I also have an option to receive payment in Bitcoin, but I don't think we can completly stay away from the fiat or traditional system.

Free spins might be attractive, and in actual sense they do not make much profit. The size of most winnings is small and the withdrawal is not easy due to large wagering requirements. They are not being used by casinos to give away easy money but rather to attract and retain their players. Nonetheless, it does not mean that they cannot be helpful in experimenting with new games.

The ability to play more games using bonus is also a benefit with 1win when compared to most other sites. Nevertheless, one should not have too high expectations. One can be a winner but one must be lucky, play well and make sure one wagers well.

If we look at his article when he claims that bitcoin is a ponzi scheme it is based on a scam that happened by one of the people who actually misrepresented that this became a ponzi scheme by himself.
Even though this is the fault of the user who doesn't even realize that he was deceived by someone else because he trusted that person too much and this is not bitcoin's fault so the reasoning becomes illogical to me.  If the object is changed to fiat or gold (as an example) and there are people who are deceived by what they believe to double their money, will gold and fiat be used as a ponzi scheme too? Of course he would not dare to say that but because the object is bitcoin then he is brave enough to make claims as if what he said made sense.

This is also a lesson for bitcoiners not to trust too much with others just because the pretext can double profits because if we think more logically it will be ridiculous when someone dares to guarantee to double the money they have even using the name bitcoin as the object.

You probably confused Switzerland with Greenland. Greenland is an island, and Switzerland is a European country in the Alps.

Greenland will inevitably be captured by the United States sooner or later, since it is needed more as an asset (the island's potential resources) to maintain the dollar's financial system than as a direct source of resources or a military foothold in the Arctic (it already is).

Switzerland is absolutely dependent on the dollar system, just like the Euro area. Neither can exist without dollar loans. In other words, these financial systems will collapse if the dollar supply disappears. And the dollar system is supported by the petrodollar monopoly (in fact, the dollar is provided with energy).