In fact to an extent,the  quest for a better strategy becomes addictive and often becomes a problem.If it's to build something that could last more than just seeking a good strategy.You can still be doing this and attract yourself more losses
After all,the whole reason behind this is to make quick/fast wins early.

That’s what I’m thinking too. The ones left holding are mostly those who don’t believe in FUD and are in this in the long run. Unless they are directly affected by the war itself, they might not see any reason to take out their money from bitcoin. If anything this should be a time to put more money in.

Your point about use money to make money is based on reality and its true that many individual thinks that to keep their savings in banks is safe but they don't know after a period of time due to inflation their money can lost its worth gradually. So if they invest thier money wisely instead of to take it in banks then money grows gradually with time and its becomes a source of income. But its not easy to investing money because its requires proper knowledge and planning and patience because in investing also there is a chance of loss. So maintain money in banks is also have importance because it help out in emergency. No doubt inflation can affects its value with time but its a useful way to stay stronger in panicked situation. So there for we should go in balanced situation like out of savings some money can be put in banks and the other is investing in good companies in this way we have financial security in the form of savings in banks and also our money keep growing through investment.

Obviously, there is always going to be a slight drop before it would find a way to bounce back should any war endure more than anticipated and I say this due to the fact that, it’s not uncommon that Bitcoin has being associated as a conflict resonate currency where, certain individuals try to fuel the conflict through Bitcoin donations to conflicting nations and as well, raise funds for arms giving using Bitcoin in conflicting nations which would in turn, increase its demand and price as well in these sad times.

Bitcoin went from around $110k down to $98k (-10%) so I wouldn't say "bitcoin didn't care". Similarly oil went up roughly 10% IIRC back in June 2025. And that was minimal effect because Iran only focused on heavily battering Israel and only a handful of US bases in Syria and their Central Command in Qatar.

The fire exchange between Iran and NATO only lasted 13 days too, so it was short.

What Iran did NOT do during those 13 days back in June were to:
- Shut down Strait of Hormuz and the rest of the sea routs I mentioned earlier
- Horizontally expanding the conflict that would affect the energy market
- Destroying the bulk of US military bases in the region
- Destroy or capture oil and gas fields under dictatorship tribes in the Persian Gulf

This time things will be different though and in retaliation, Iran will do all of the above and more which would affect the global economy harshly.

can't wait for all the things that will go wrong with this and to see people complaining about losing their money after they joined a pump and dump, etc... or however investing/trading grifters on twitter gonna abuse it. it's going to be a real shitshow.

i'm sure twitter users are going to love that considering where eToro is based.

Some powerful people just don't want to have a channel of decentralized transactions that doesn't necessarily need to go through their corrupt protocols. That's how greedy they can be-- every medium is an opportunity to implement their taxation policies, and if they're not given a percentage or two, they whine around and extend their sanctions. I think I see where this is going.

I read through the link, and I fear that this is not just mere threats anymore... Investors now have to deal with retributions for investing on what they think has a stronger growth pace, with their own money? I can't even make my choices anymore... Damn!!
But, why's the case different with Steak 'n Shake?

With their lord and personal saviour, Elon, leading the campaign, it would be very easy to fool them. Twitter has been moving towards a certain way since he took over the app, and even though this is a long shot, I am not surprised that something like this is a possibility.

I believe OP is referring to a further price decline. The desire (and expectation) of most people for an imminent rebound in bitcoin is still in the air, while, in my opinion, a further decline is clearly inevitable. Considering that bearish season has only just begun.

Yes, that's true. So why is everyone so confused about bitcoin falling under bearish pressure? What's happening is normal in the current situation.


Of course, it will be long if it has always been like this.

A few months? You're just being optimistic.

Fasten your seatbelts and get ready for a long, drawn-out dive into the depths of bitcoin's price.

When two fighters with a combined knock-out average of 90% collide in the ring, we should not blink because anyone could knock out the other and end the fight.

This is what fights like to see: two fighters who have power and only know how to move forward, especially if it's a title fight. I'm leaning on Wardley, but I never ignore Dubois' power problem. With him, it's his motivation. It's bad for a boxer's reputation if they are a known quitter.

I think you explained it the best i meant pvp only from fairness point, whereas whole pot is between you and other players and house takes small cut but things are completely random "luck based" so there is really still no need for pvp since it is not skill based.

Instead of copying superficial information from the image, next time include dates when you are referring to something like this otherwise it is quite an incomplete view of the situation.

Expected by idiots. If you believe in this, then stake your whole net worth and take out loans to make the most profitable trade in your life. Of course you like most of these idiots won't do it, because you don't believe this.

Complete nonsense. It is not expected to rise 817%, terrible example here and completely wrong. Fuck diminishing returns right, it is not as if it was already an established fact. Let's introduce a completely random expected increase in % that makes no sense whatsoever? 

It does not need to fall more than 50%, check your numbers and don't shitpost.

It is a terrible chart and the whole premise here is stupid. A crash to 30k would be a bad sign as it shows that decreases are not diminishing, but the upside is diminishing. $125k to $30k would be a 75% decrease.

Both the OP in this thread and the Swapwatch thread, linked to above in Darker45 reply, behave similarly. They have no intention to engage with Bitcointalk users, answer questions, or dispel any doubts voiced by people. Their bot-like activity is very suspicious. I wouldn't trust their monitoring services or the unknown exchanges they advertise.

Stay safe and don't get scammed!

It takes very little for one person to tank Bitcoin by 60% if that person is the head of a major global power. Just look at the Chinese mining ban; those miners only survived because they found a safe haven in the US.

What happens if they are kicked out of the States by a Trump executive order? Or if the DOJ, under presidential direction, goes after Tether again? Remember 2018: Bitcoin plummeted 50% simply because Tether was caught up in US legal proceedings. Political decisions have massive consequences.

The mistake wasn’t calling Trump the "crypto president"—the real mistake was the crypto industry backing him in the election. He used crypto for personal enrichment, and now the Democrats are gearing up for investigations. We’re likely to see a wave of anti-crypto legislation framed as a crackdown on "political bribery." None of this is going to end well for the market.

A person without a plan, someone who doesn't have a strategy, is always adrift, so setting a timer and leaving when the time is up is the best approach. I think even if you're addicted, you can maintain this discipline; it's necessary to do this to feel good about yourself. If you leave when the time is up, you'll feel really good because you've kept your promise to yourself. I bet on sports, and I set different limits for myself there and try not to exceed them.

No matter your intention you must always

You might be right about that but our intention is what determines, if your intention is to have fun with it trust me you can gamble as much as you like even though you would want to spend the whole of your day and you won't regret it that's if your mind is fixed to have fun but it's advised to set a limit while gambling just as we also have limit in other things we do which gambling is even more dangerous than most of the things we set limit while doing it so it is good for us to also apply that same method in gambling, by so doing it shows that we are gambling responsibly.

Hello Darker45,

First of all, apologies for the long silence on this thread.

Over the past few months, we had very limited direct access to Bitcointalk. At the same time, our team was heavily focused on strengthening the core of ETZ-Swap — improving user anonymity and security mechanisms, expanding our liquidity pool, and resolving several structural matters with partners and integrations.

These upgrades required significant internal resources, and we chose to prioritize infrastructure and product stability before returning to public communication.

We’re now fully back online here and ready to actively maintain and develop this topic again.

Regarding your previous points:

1. Fee competitiveness — yes, that’s something we’ve been actively optimizing. Liquidity expansion was one of the key steps to improve execution quality and rates.
2. KYCnot.me — we appreciate the suggestion. We are open to pursuing verified/approved listing status and will follow up accordingly.

We’re here to stay and ready to continue the discussion.

Okay first of all bitcoin don't depends on title or controlled by politicians so you saying or they call trump crypto president, that do not mean that one person can control bitcoin, it's all about how demands , supply and also confidence on the way the global market or events goes.

And again this safe heaven label this don't mean that the price of bitcoin won't drop even when it comes to gold the price still fall sometimes, the thing is that even if it drops can the assets recover from it and holds value as the years pass by because instead of you focusing it if bitcoin is on red or green in a year it's just okay to ask because with this alone it has proven that no matter how the market seems it can still survive and in the terms of a long run bitcoin still holds its value or bitcoin is makes sense as an asset and solid reason to stand strong.

While he has not been performing very well in this, which is why we do not consider him to be very good. He promised to make crypto big, but he has not fulfilled it yet, which is why he is not using this power properly, while he is using this power well in his country. Bitcoin has fallen below its price for some time, this does not mean that Bitcoin or its growth has stopped, but it has the potential to rise this year with many big predictions. It is absolutely okay to do so because at this time everyone's eyes are on Bitcoin, if we do not make any changes in Bitcoin for a while, maybe it will seem to go up, so we should not invest in Bitcoin right now, although this time is good, but sometimes profitable investments have to be abandoned.

As long as there is greed, even the games have become boring, these gamblers can't stop themselves from gambling especially if they have been losing already a huge amount. And most of them are gambling addicts, so they don't just gamble for their greed for money, but they gamble its because their mind can no longer stop them from satisfying their gambling addiction.

At the end of the day, gambling is just all about time management and responsible gambling, if you can't do it, you'll definitely fall into gambling addiction.

Bitcoin forks are necessary things for Bitcoin technical improvements, upgrades to make it stronger, better and more convenient as well as feasible with time so generally it's good. It's only bad if scammers try to use forks for creating their shitcoins as their easy tools to scam people, steal money of people in the market while they don't actually have any technical capability of developments their "projects" after forking from Bitcoin source codes and Bitcoin chain.

Bitcoin fork is a technical feature that is either good or bad depends on people behind each fork but Bitcoin is only one, the longest Bitcoin chain, while other chains are weaker and most of them are useless too.