I think either you look at it in relative terms (i.e. 50% of current market cap - it is scary, but not that scary if compared with other bears), or it's legit to compare it to other sources like the stock market. And it would also come down to ... when starts a bear market to be scary? If it loses 1T or more? Or are almost 1T like in 2021-22 also scary if it was almost 80% of the market cap back then?

Where I can agree is that these "trillion" numbers make good headlines for the media. Which can scare some away, but imo only the absolute noobs

To address a frequent misunderstanding: this difficulty to move upwards depends mainly on liquidity on the markets (more orders), not so much on the price itself.

In theory, thus, increased liquidity should protect both from excessive upward and downward movements. It looks at a first glance that moving it up is harder now while the panic + liquidation mix you mentioned still leads to quite harsh downward movements like the 90->60k crash in a few days in February. But also here: there were more substantial crashes before, even in 2021 it took very short from a 70k to a 30-35k level - and that twice.

I'm in the low volatilty camp too. Above all the volatility reduction should lead to a virtuous cycle, where more liquidity comes in, and also less hyper-speculative trading schemes would become more popular. That may lead also to a spike in leverage as we've seen it often in the last years, but if the spectacular profits from leverage become a thing of the past, then these practices could decline again in the next years.

in the minepool i lost about 30k usdt  now with the recovery i didnt lose money yet because i found the whitelisting strange to cost me that much.. but that is where i suposidly got money back from the FTC wich i am really wondering too now if its all a scam again haha jeez

Fuck off, they are not entrepreneurs they are leeches like most middlemen and in this case they are doing something terrible. They are buying shit quality goods that are often dangerous with various toxic substances and then reselling them at an extremely exaggerated value and often hiding where it comes from. People who are like this should be put in front of a firing squad.

He just made up some bullshit because he knows some people who are reselling cancerous goods and instead of criticizing them for what they are doing, given that it is an evil "at all costs" kind of thing, he is acting supportive and providing excuses for them. Resellers are not entrepreneurs, street stands are not entrepreneurs, 99% of businesses have no relation at all to entrepreneurship maybe even 99.9%.

People should blame themselves in this case for being unskilled and shit workers. Jobs in good industries and extremely qualified people pay a ton of money. You could have a family of 100 members with them. It does not matter where you live, if you are a true expert the USA or China will gladly import you with a ridiculous salary. Stop blaming the world for your choices.

Exactly, most people here are complete idiots and wrote lies about this topic. They do not know a single entrepreneur.

This is not true. Many people have taken on huge debt in a gamble to try something, and ended up paying off that debt for a long period of time after the venture failed. You are focused on a subset of cases that are written about in the media, and have made false conclusions because of that. Innovation does not require any kind of safety net, a safety net merely helps. Actually, plenty of innovation does not even require taking on debt at all so the financial risk is 0 and a safety net is not needed.

Also false, most people are lazy in these 3rd world shitholes and justify their laziness with having been doing the most basic job with normal regular hours. Meanwhile a western entrepreneur is putting up 2 or even 3 times the amount of hours per week for months or years in order to innovate. Learn the difference, accept that these are lazy savages and most of the problems that their places have are their own fault.

File a report at ic3.gov (Internet Crime Complaint Center), FTC acts against companies in large-scale scams and not individuals.

scam may continue by diverting the deposit to 'another service' or requiring further deposits.
Scammers often try to tell others that they can 'recover hacked coins,' which is a trap.

And so its fairly safe to say that Bitcoin development is progressing as normal but with a
consideration to quantum computing as well.

I think Michael Saylor mentioned in the past about quantum computers that they would be
better deployed in strengthening the Bitcoin network rather than trying to attack it.

Would it be a fair argument that it takes greater computing power to attack the network than
to support it?

Bitcoin is a lively project with most massive community from developers to users so this blockchain has global development contributions over time. It's not a dead or static project that remains the same as it is since the Bitcoin blockchain launch with genesis block. With massive developments decentralized globally and a biggest community in blockchain industry, it's a truly leader in this industry with strongest ability to adapt to any attacking threats.

Quantum computer is one of threats that try to beat Bitcoin down but I agree with you that the project and its community don't sit down and see the storm comes.

Bitcoin security model: a deep dive. It's very old insightful article written in 2016.
J. Lopp's Post-Quantum Migration BIP. Bitcoin community is huge and has many excellent brains like J. Lopp, who has contributed a lot over years. He returned to forum with that post for discussions and insightful ideas on dealing with Quantum computer threat.

Sad for the Philippines. They banned POGOs that catered to overseas gamblers because of all the issues around them, even if the country was making money from taxes. But now we still have casinos operating locally, and honestly that does not really help ordinary people at all.

In fact, it can make things worse. Poverty is already high, and we cannot deny that many people will still take their chances hoping they can win big. Even if they do not get addicted right away, consistent gambling, even with small amounts, can eventually lead to bigger losses.
That is the sad reality. Some people are already earning very little, yet they still have families to feed and children to send to school, and somehow gambling still becomes part of the budget. That is why this is really painful to see.

Indeed, Bitcoin had already fallen to about 30000$ before the Terra/Luna debacle. And it's very likely that this bear market was one of the reasons for the UST collapse. But 30.000 would have been still a mild crash, less than 60%, compared with 80% before.

The Terra crash then accelerated the Bitcoin crash, above all after the project announced to sell BTC reserves to keep their UST token pegged. As far as I remember this was the final trigger to send Bitcoin from the 28-30k level to the 20k level where it first floored in July. So Terra/Luna was responsible for about 15 percentage points of the crash, with FTX adding 7-8 points more in late 2022 (calculated from the ~69k top).

I indeed started from this assumption, but the framing of my title is different: Even if it looks that Bitcoin has become "less exciting", the "floor line" where accumulation happens, seems to be very strong and grows stronger than the tops would indicate.

In other words: The long term trend is more positive than the simple ATH to ATH comparison.

That results in still very good returns if you invest in the lower half of the price spectrum, but lower returns if you invest near the ATH.

Basically, on that observation, one would have to recommend people to invest when Bitcoin is trading lower than significant long term averages (> 1 year). Even if this of course is done by cyclists already, it would become more important than in earlier times when even if you invested in a FOMO phase at the end of the bull market you still made good returns, and bear markets became then attractive investment opportunities.

If thinking a bit more about it, it could make Bitcoin become even more stable, because it would look scarier actually to invest if the bull market already is some time in.

I somewhat find this idea interesting. But this trillion didn't disappear out of thin air, as it had just entered the market a year before or less. I think if someone panics because of these arithmetic questions, they should really think about more meaningful statistics. A trillion for example is only about 1.5% of the US stock market, so if the S&P 500 crashes 2%, it's likely more money is "burnt" than when Bitcoin crashes 50%

I'm also living in a developing country and I have to be honest, its certainly the case at the present. People turn into being entrepreneur not by choice or passion, but it comes from a dire need for survival. People do business not actually to showcase their talents and make it known to the people, but because its the last choice they have, unemployment is high, if you don't do business, then you're doomed and die hungry.

Lucky are those who get a secure, long-term job and become financially stable, they will not experience the struggles of a businessman or entrepreneur.

Sure I'll give it a shot.

Nomos is the first digital economy where new money isn't printed for banks or awarded to crypto whales. It's minted directly into the wallets of the buyers and sellers doing the actual work of moving the economy forward. It’s a completely fee-less network that actively pays you to participate in everyday commerce, protected by math that makes it impossible for bots or billionaires to drain the system.

1. The Problem with Fiat: Trickle-Down Money Printing
In the traditional fiat system, the central bank prints money and hands it to giant financial institutions, hoping it eventually trickles down to the working economy. It scarcely does; it just causes inflation that hurts the average person.

2. The Problem with Crypto: The Rich Get Richer
Bitcoin and Ethereum tried to fix fiat, but they built systems that reward "hoarding." Bitcoin because of its scarcity compared with fiat, Ethereum you "stake" thousands of tokens, the network pays you. Meanwhile, regular people are forced to pay high transaction fees (gas) just to buy a cup of coffee.

3. The Nomos Solution: "Proof of Velocity"
Nomos flips the script. Instead of rewarding people for hoarding capital, Nomos rewards actual economic movement. New money is only created—or "minted"—when a genuine transaction takes place between real people. Money is tied to labor and commerce, not to a server farm. Only public and openly transparent transactions are eligible for rewards. Private transactions do not qualify for rewards.

4. The Hook: "Negative Transaction Fees"
When you use a credit card, Visa takes a 3% fee. When you use Ethereum, the network charges you a gas fee. Nomos has a negative fee or "reward". When you buy a good or service, the network actively mints Unique Network-Initiated Transaction Token (UNITT) and splits it between the buyer, the seller, and the network. You are literally paid a protocol subsidy to engage in local commerce.

5. The "Active Claim" Escrow (The Bot-Breaker)
In traditional systems, rewards are just dropped passively into accounts, which is exactly what automated bots look to exploit. Nomos stops this by placing the minted reward for every transaction into a temporary holding escrow. To actually unlock and claim your "negative fee," you simply verify the transaction with a quick human action—like a CAPTCHA. It takes one second for a real person buying lunch, but it mathematically breaks automated bot scripts trying to farm the network at scale. If you aren't a real human actively confirming the trade, you don't get paid. The verifications don't have to be done at the time of the transaction. They're queued for resolution at a later time or if they're not verified in the allocated time, the system has the ability to transfer the verifications to another user or group of users. The user could also automate the transfer process.

6. Flexible Claims & The Community Pool (No Rushed Checkouts)
Your newly minted rewards sit safely in your personal escrow until it is convenient for you to verify them. When you are ready, you have total control over where that money goes. You can claim it directly to your own wallet, or you can automatically route it to the network's Universal Basic Labor (UBL) pool—a community treasury that pays the real humans who act as the Decentralized Jury. You can keep your rewards, or easily pass them on to support the network.

7. The Firewall: Sybil Resistance (No Bots Allowed)
If the network is paying people to transact, what stops a bot from spamming the system to drain the rewards? Well first and foremost, math and that escrow verification, but also Nomos uses a private, on-device biometric check to ensure one human equals one account. It never stores your identity or face on a database; it just uses cryptography to prove you are a unique, living person. Bots can't play.

8. The Whale Trap: Decentralized Fairness
If a group of people tries to game the system by sending money back and forth in a circle to harvest the daily rewards, the network’s math catches them. A deterministic "Sentinel" flags this unnatural behavior, freezes the rewards, and kicks it to a decentralized jury of real humans (the Universal Basic Labor pool) to decide if the commerce was genuine.

9.Elastic Velocity Stimulus ($r$): The math that keeps inflation in check
The protocol algorithmically adjusts the baseline minting rate upward or downward based on a 30-day rolling average of network velocity to maintain macroeconomic stability.

There's a lot more to it than these 9 points, like "UBL" (Universal Basic Labor) Pool, User pools, reputation scoring, jury and AI mitigation, constitution, and governance. The 9 points above are a brief explanation of how it might work. It's all in the whitepaper and technical documentation.

There should be clear regulations about prohibiting Illegal gambling, as more illegal gambling keeps popping up to influence users to play and then lose more money.

The illegal casinos that exist now make the view of casinos even worse, even though casinos are places to play and it is up to everyone how they use them.
If a country has provided good enough regulations and allowed gambling then it is clear how the government provides consumer protection regulations.

Don't just say gambling is worse than the Covid Pandemic, But this depends on how good and correct regulations are applied,
If a country cannot implement good regulations then do not give any regulations or even ban them.

You are sad because many other people are lazy twats that are uneducated and unskilled and because of that they have to grind around various activities in order to survive financially?  How many of these "entrepreneurs" spend all their time in between customers on their smartphones browsing social media or some silly games? 

Why would someone from the developed and rich world provide connections and capital for someone who is uneducated, unskilled and has a culture of plundering and cheating? Really? You'd have to be insane to do that unless there are various gains to be had, like psychopaths do with their various NGOs and "saving other people" operations worldwide.

It is because the definition of entrepreneurship here is messed up, he and many such people consider entrepreneur to be also people who are selling some food or coffee in small street vendors every single day. However, that is false and misleading. Those that engage in repetitive tasks, do not innovate, do not improve their business in any significant way but treat it like a regular job are not entrepreneurs.

Unless there is something innovative about those, whether in terms of the offering or the way it is being done or something in that direction, those are not entrepreneurs.

They have to hype it so people will watch, and you’re right, the odds themselves already say a lot about how this fight could go.

I even think in Nakatani’s last fight, he could have lost that one, but his opponent wasn’t able to knock him down, so he still ended up winning. But what we’re really seeing now is the performance gap between a good champion and a truly great one.

Right now, there’s only one best fighter in Japan, and that’s Inoue. It feels like they’re trying to make him look even better by putting him against fighters they think can build hype and excite the crowd, but it’s not really working.

If Inoue wants a real crowd reaction and more serious excitement, then maybe he should stop fighting only in Japan and start facing real champions in the higher divisions.

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Passed KYC from "prohibited country" on MEXC?
What are the best exchanges without KYC for trading currently?

I think he got cocky against Nery and that's why he was caught with that left if I'm not mistaken. But you are correct, he was able to get back as this feet and finished the job. Maybe this fight is hype around the Japanese market, as obviously, it's all Japanese and the winning proving to be the best Japanese fighter right now.

So we will see, if this is going to be an easy fight for Inoue then he should really go up in the next week class. Fight for the belt, but it should be in the US because all of the champion on the next division is US based.

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