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1. Post 67237844 (unedited backup) (by Dogedegen) (scraped on Wed Oct 14 00:41:01 CEST 2026) in Reports about wallet-draining by Ledger users. Total losses $86M+:
Then let them bypass it, too. Give them 5 obstacles to bypass. 5 is better than 1.
You want to open the device, fake the holographic sticker first. Then fake the box, too. Fake the sticker on the device as well.
There's nothing wrong with putting several layers of security measures for buyers to readily check. A holographic sticker that looked somehow different could have saved one from losing all his/her lifesavings. With Ledger's misplaced confidence, customers are left with nothing to check, either for legitimacy or integrity or whatever. Nobody checks unmarked plastic wrappers seriously. They could be perfectly faked even with a sidewalk vendor.
"Engineered to be tamper-proof" my foot! A can of sardines or a jar of sandwich spread seems more protected.
I've bought 3 hardware wallets so far. It's Ledger that overconfidently offers almost zero packaging protection.
Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with you. I was merely thinking that there is no way that this can be fully prevented at all, at least not that I know of from a hardware perspective. They can only make it harder by including different things, from the hardware validation which seem to have failed in this case, to the stickers that were mentioned, to some supply chain validation and that. The more things are added the better, and I don't think these things add that much cost on a scale. Definitely those stickers are pretty cheap, so that part of the weak protection can be blamed on Ledger.
As a person who works in the field of printing design, it is easy for me to make anti-tampering stickers like this because it can be Custom or made like the original stickers made.
But some Original VOID stickers with Holograms and special codes may be a marker, but some other supporting methods are needed for higher security such as cryptographic verification of devices,
protecting devices from the Design to Distribution stage, because the device distribution chain also needs to be strictly audited.
And the Licensee as a Distributor or Reseller also needs to be strictly audited if the company is acquired by someone else,
but there is no official report from Ledger about further audit on the Cryptobilis Acquisition Process.
I would not expect a company of this scale to use basic anti-tampering stickers if they were going to add them, but they should do something more after this case.
meanwhile, Trezor is reducing the number of resellers as a preventive measure:
https://x.com/Trezor/status/2110000774314873020it seems to me that reducing the number of resellers isn't a comprehensive enough measure to secure the supply chain. ideally, there should be a single production location for hardware wallets where everything can be monitored more rigorously. Ledger, for instance, manufactures different models in several countries. this guy (
https://x.com/Cyphertux/status/2109695312050765966) managed to find information regarding place of production of Ledger devices:
Nano X - France
Nano S Plus black - Hungary
Stax - Vietnam
Flex - Vietnam
Nano Gen5 - Vietnamit is hardly surprising that there has been no clear response from Ledger so far, given the scattered production locations and the additional factor of suppliers for individual components.
It is not enough but every step helps.
2. Post 67236000 (unedited backup) (by SFR10) (scraped on Tue Oct 13 15:20:50 CEST 2026) in Crypto-scout.io Exchange Monitor:
Only verified exchangers with real reviews and reputation.
In addition to Darker45's post, I'd like to know the process for verifying each of their reserves. If it's based only on the numbers on their platforms, it's worth noting that most of them rely on a third party to provide those reserves!
- BTW, I had a glance at some of the reviews at random and noticed a repeating pattern that makes me doubt them: There's suddenly a lot of reviews on a certain day, followed by a gap, then it repeats itself (e.g., this and this)!
3. Post 67235521 (unedited backup) (by Primark) (scraped on Tue Oct 13 12:49:31 CEST 2026) in Spinly.io 🎰✨ - Next-gen Crypto iGaming Platform 🚀💸:
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Adding a sportsbook wouldn’t be a bad idea at all, because it could potentially attract different group of users, but the team would also need to consider whether they can actually maintain the same level of reliability across both services. Because expanding into new areas isn’t just as simple as merely offering more options, that also requires the team to hand more user expectations, so except they have someone who’s experienced in that area, it may turn out to be a tough nut to crack.
I actually second it. It's a great suggestion. I believe many gamblers are into both categories, myself included. It would be convenient for Spinly users to do everything on the same platform. Users don't have to login to another platform to place bets on sports matches.
And considering that Spinly has been around for quite a while already, it might indeed be a nice venture to consider. If I'm not mistaken, some of the largest names in the crypto gambling scene like Stake, Roobet, Rollbit, BCGame, and others also started off as casinos. They eventually integrated sports betting. And now, it seems some of them are becoming more popular for sports betting than as casinos.
Spinly, of course, is already successful with its unique retro vibe, and doesn't have to copy other roadmaps, but it's a great suggestion nonetheless.
I also think that considering sportsbook is not a bad idea. You said that Stake was just a casino before, and then added sportsbook. But as far as I know, they have been offering both crypto casino gaming and sports betting since the beginning of 2017. However, there is no guarantee that all gambling platforms will grow in the same way. So, in addition to looking at what the big platforms are doing, I think it is necessary to look at what our own users of Spinly actually want. Even Spinly has become fairly well-known in this community at the moment. Now if someone wants to bet on Spinly, they can do so without hesitation. You know what most gamblers want? Not only to win, but also to not have any problems withdrawing that money after winning. That is why I can confidently tell everyone that you can withdraw here without any problems. Many online casinos will show you a lot of profits and offers. But you have to face a lot of problems to withdraw. I hope Spinly will never put us in such a situation.
4. Post 67235095 (unedited backup) (by L E G E N D A R Y) (scraped on Tue Oct 13 10:02:26 CEST 2026) in Spinly.io 🎰✨ - Next-gen Crypto iGaming Platform 🚀💸:
I actually second it. It's a great suggestion. I believe many gamblers are into both categories, myself included. It would be convenient for Spinly users to do everything on the same platform. Users don't have to login to another platform to place bets on sports matches.
And considering that Spinly has been around for quite a while already, it might indeed be a nice venture to consider. If I'm not mistaken, some of the largest names in the crypto gambling scene like Stake, Roobet, Rollbit, BCGame, and others also started off as casinos. They eventually integrated sports betting. And now, it seems some of them are becoming more popular for sports betting than as casinos.
Spinly, of course, is already successful with its unique retro vibe, and doesn't have to copy other roadmaps, but it's a great suggestion nonetheless.
I share in your view. And the most interesting part is that Spinly already has an established identity, so it’ll be a lot more easier (should they decide to add sports betting) to reach out a different audience without having to necessarily change what makes the casino unique and different from others.
But still, adding more services doesn’t automatically guarantee growth, because there’s every possibility that it would come with its own complexities and challenges too. So except the team is positive that they’re ready to weather any kind of challenges that may come with implementing this idea, I think it’ll be more profitable to stick to and further improve what they’re already good at and strive to be the best at it.
5. Post 67235088 (unedited backup) (by LoyceV) (scraped on Tue Oct 13 10:00:13 CEST 2026) in Reports about wallet-draining by Ledger users. Total losses $86M+:
It looks plausible to buy a device, compromise it, and return it to the shop for a refund.
That’s because they knew the store will restock it back.. but why restock what’s been returned as a defective product, that’s probably the only convincing complaint that can be attached to get a refund .
Many shops allow to return products if you changed your mind after buying. It doesn't need to be defective.
If you ordered it online, you're even allowed to return it if you ordered from Ledger directly. That makes me wonder how thoroughly they check their return shipments before selling them again. Would it be possible to compromise their own supplies this way?
Ledger told authorized resellers never to restock returned products, and urged buyers to avoid unauthorized sellers.
I highly doubt they'd do that. If a large electronics chain receives a seemingly unopened box returned by a customer, I'd be surprised if they don't just put it back in the store. But even if they do, it wouldn't be too far fetched to just walk into the store, and put a compromised box on their shelf. Or it could be an inside job by bribing an employee.
I don't think that anti tamper stickers prevent this kind of thing. It makes it just harder, as we have seen the anti tamper checks on the hardware in this case have failed too.
You said it already: it makes it harder. Security doesn't come from just one thing, it's the sum of all things combined.
I am looking for a measure or method that would make this completely impossible
There is no 100% security.
That, right there? That's game over.
If that would be true, it would have been game over many years ago. Marketing is powerful enough to sell people bad products.
Ledger falsely stated in writing that their devices offered a level of security capability which the devices were not capable of delivering.
You're talking about the company thath also falsely stated in writing that your keys can never leave the device. They lie. It's documented. People still fall for it.
I wonder if there is a globalist (i.e. world central bank) conspiracy to make self custody as scary as possible.
My country is planning to do exactly that:
This is the latest plan for 2028:
Wie crypto’s in zijn eigen wallet heeft staan, gaat belasting moeten betalen op winst hierop, óók als die winst nog niet is verzilverd. Dat geld moet je dus wel hebben liggen. Wie crypto’s heeft via een bank of een reguliere beleggingsrekening, betaalt vanaf 2028 alleen als de winst wordt verzilverd.
In short: if you own your Bitcoin keys, you'll be taxed 36% on the annual unrealized gains, even if you don't sell them. But if you give your coins to Blackrock, you're only taxed when you sell them!
Didn't Europe recently enact regulations that require users to prove they own the address before moving funds from CEXs to private addresses?
The "travel rule" implementation varies per exchange: some ask just to confirm "yes that address is mine", others ask to "connect your wallet" or "upload an image". The registration hunger combined with increasing data leaks are just a disaster waiting to happen.
I'm wondering why the implants aren't the same. The materials aren't the same. The arrangements aren't the same. The differences are significant. One has 8 soldering points, for example. The other has only 4. In other words, there are most likely more than 1 or 1 group of attackers.
Or, the attack has been an ongoing experiment; meaning, changes or improvements were made along the way. Attempts were pretty much trials and errors. Some worked, some didn't.
That makes perfect sense. It's probably both: different groups of attackers working on their own hardware hacks.
Considering the number of devices involved, I would have expected many alarm bells if the software could detect the tampered hardware. So my guess it it couldn't find it.
according to :
https://www.tibane.net/research/ledger-nano-x-implant#timelineAn “implant” doesnt trigger Ledger’s “Genuine Device” check because the implant never touched the Secure Element(the chip). …
So basically, the "secure element" is simply bypassed because the words have to be printed on the screen:
A hardware wallet keeps your secret inside a hardened chip, the secure element, which is built to resist an attacker with a lab. It still has to show you the 24 words once, when you set it up, and to show them it has to send them to the screen.
The implant waits on that path. It is a second, tiny computer soldered onto a genuine Ledger Nano X, wired to the screen’s data lines. It doesn’t try to break the secure element. It only watches the pixels go past, picks out the letters of each word, and stores them. A cellular modem with its own SIM card and antenna then sends them to the attacker. The wallet has no idea it is there, and Ledger’s “genuine device” check passes, because the secure element really is genuine.
I think the people at Ledger talked about the missing anti-tamper stickers years ago and said that they see no point in adding them because they add a false sense of security. The stickers can be be removed, the residue can be cleaned, and new anti-tamper stickers can be placed at the same place after opening and inserting hardware implants. The result would be a manipulated device with a sticker on that makes it look like it wasn't.
By that same logic, they can just as well remove all other security measures. Everything can be tampered if by someone resourceful and patient enough to do so. Let me use a very Dutch example: it's kinda like a bicycle lock: everyone knows it won't stop a thief, but the goal is to delay him a bit. If another bicycle is easier to steal, he'll take that one. In this case, Ledger was the easy one to tamper with.
6. Post 67234537 (unedited backup) (by stadus) (scraped on Tue Oct 13 04:05:49 CEST 2026) in NFL Challenges Sports Prediction Market Regulations:
This is also my kind of take. But not just sports leagues; it's mainly the member teams in the leagues. Many of them are probably into some kind of partnership or collaboration with bookmakers.
That's probably what happened and I think they are now feeling the pressure.
So it only shows that the league has connections with bookmakers, and it raises the possibility that match-fixing could be happening, doesn't it?
But then I realized Kalshi, and other prediction markets for this matter, are also paying these sports leagues for using their data or their games in the prediction markets. So why should these sports leagues be "extremely angry" when they're also benefitting from it?
Because sports leagues probably have partnerships with sportsbooks, not just bookmakers.
That's the biggest possible connection, so they might just be protecting their business partners.
7. Post 67234532 (unedited backup) (by Maslate) (scraped on Tue Oct 13 04:00:13 CEST 2026) in [BOXING]Amir Khan vs Manny Pacquiao?:
If this fight happens, Manny might have a slight advantage in the odds. Just like bisdak40 said, Amir has a chin of glass.
We can monitor the odds in
https://www.proboxingodds.com/fighters/manny-pacquiao-31For now, there are no odds yet since this fight has not been finalized.
But if this fight happens, I agree Manny should be the favorite here since he has been more active than Amir Khan.
Well, it seems like after his fight with Barrios, there's been a lot of speculation about his next opponent but until now nothing has been confirmed, could it be because of problems with the financial negotiations?
8. Post 67233315 (unedited backup) (by Just Say) (scraped on Mon Oct 12 19:16:08 CEST 2026) in Reports about wallet-draining by Ledger users. Total losses $86M+:
Ledger also has resellers who, due to regional proximity, could also pose a threat due to potentially altered technical design.
Unfortunately, there is information that this incident has spread beyond Asia. Now Europe and South America too.
Last I checked, there was somebody from Germany, if I'm not mistaken, who physically bought his tampered Ledger device from the Mediamarkt store, an authorized Ledger retailer in certain European countries.
https://x.com/0xJohannes_/status/2109240472933671125This was confirmed by Mark Karpelès.
https://x.com/MagicalTux/status/2109249759508869184However, Ledger has made a comment on the original tweet, directing the user to "refer to the latest update". Ledger's latest update limits "all confirmed cases related to the disclosed draining incident of Oct 9th, 2026, involve devices sold through the Southeast Asia reseller CryptoBilis".
https://x.com/Ledger/status/2109351457279336502
It appears Ledger is still in denial that this scandal is much larger than it first seemed. They may be trying to contain a much more serious and larger backlash.
This person has already confirmed that laser supply chains have been damaged or compromised in South Asia as well as in Europe. Actually I noticed that this person bought a second device today from another branch of the media market and it again detected spyware, even his second device was found to be damaged or tampered with in exactly the same way as the previous one and appeared to have the exact same additions or modifications such as an extra cable and an LTE module. Therefore, it appears that this issue is likely to affect the inventory of Media Market and Saturn stores across Europe. Indeed, it seems that these devices should not be purchased except from official laser stores because if you purchase these devices from any source other than the official laser store, they should be thoroughly tested.
Here is the video proof, fresh device, directly from the store, video quality is kinda bad, sorry
9. Post 67232467 (unedited backup) (by Lucius) (scraped on Mon Oct 12 15:30:37 CEST 2026) in Reports about wallet-draining by Ledger users. Total losses $86M+:
~snip~
It appears Ledger is still in denial that this scandal is much larger than it first seemed. They may be trying to contain a much more serious and larger backlash.
This is their way of minimizing every scandal they have faced during the past 6 years. You need to watch the interview with their CEO (
Lord of the Rings) to understand how that company reacts to the leak of hundreds of thousands of data of their customers to understand how much they actually care about the end user.
Has anyone thought to investigate the possibility that one of the Ledger employees modified the devices before shipping? Given that it is clearly not just one reseller, this possibility is something that needs to be taken into account.
Agreed, and that should be the end of the argument right there--and if being closed-source wasn't enough of an impetus for people to ditch their Ledger devices, the big reveal behind the Recover update should have solidified any rational person's decision.
I've learned you've got to maintain a high level of suspicion, bordering on paranoia, when it comes to anything crypto-related. Obviously there are still a lot of folks who haven't learned that lesson....yet. I'll be keeping a curious eye focused on this.
Everything you say is logical, but apparently very few people in the cryptocurrency world think for themselves, they listen to various
"influencers" who fill their heads with nonsense. After everything that happened, the famous criminal CZ declared that Ledger is
one of the most secure hardware wallets that exist...
10. Post 67231647 (unedited backup) (by LoyceV) (scraped on Mon Oct 12 10:14:02 CEST 2026) in LoyceV's Merit data analysis (full data since Jan. 24, 2018; not just 120 days):
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217: SirArthur
224: Gavin Andresen
237: lachesis
241: QuantumMechanic
244: nixoid
251: wobber
262: chaord
267: virtualcoin
269: Bitcoiner
270: llama
271: Timo Y
274: limikael
284: joey.rich
288: Stone Man
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3766665: kaankaya
3766778: nobswebdev
3766798: Uselesssky
3766836: swap_bot
3766840: MOBAZHA
3766935: Bitcoin_effect
3766938: nullmac
3766972: louis2608
3766994: t0te15
3767009: even1206
3767045: beSELLER
3767069: dotpizza
3767074: Pablo.Cash
3767115: oodog
3767119: AndreiAndrei22
3767138: KayaHodler
3767260: nokyc_watch
3767325: darkvector-dev
3767326: Butrholesmasher78
3767448: Natuso
3767467: redfish11111
3767496: EagleSwap
3767524: Airwolf6
3767533: Xonmining
3767591: Leon Zimmer
3767724: Svolz
3767873: Zarya Volk
3767888: deepside
3767929: KYTme.com
3767976: drywall777
3767979: NorthEdge
3767987: Zero_Trace
3768022: btctalk-mobile
3768147: King352
3768182: CaveChief
3768279: Isaque Cruz
3768284: Loid Cypherpunk
3768299: antialbon
3768417: HorizonEx
3768561: SittingDuck52
3768645: SuNullCry
3768871: inkier35
3768938: Breezeswap
3769035: seo20258
3769305: sparrowingwild
3769329: ace_cute123
3769360: CryptoVertex7
3769704: Munshi Prem Chand
3769768: Chad221
3769913: theresinada5b4
Full list (2 MB)
UserIDs, sent Merit and earned Merit machine readableSample0:569:0
3:0:8901
4:0:935
10:0:1
11:0:16
12:0:2
13:3:96
14:0:13
21:0:2
23:0:1
24:0:9
26:0:19
27:0:54
28:0:13
29:0:4
30:380:800
31:0:1
33:0:27
34:0:4
35:14579:15160
37:0:6
40:0:4
42:0:69
49:0:5
51:0:2
97:0:2
101:0:2
143:0:2792
145:0:2
146:0:4
163:0:21
182:1:0
183:9:1
198:2:87
203:68:311
206:0:14
217:3:36
224:0:1496
237:0:6
241:0:9
244:0:1
251:0:1
262:0:1
267:0:2
269:0:2
270:0:57
271:0:1
274:0:42
284:0:6
288:0:11
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3766665:1:4
3766778:11:42
3766798:0:1
3766836:0:1
3766840:0:7
3766935:0:3
3766938:0:1
3766972:0:1
3766994:0:3
3767009:0:10
3767045:0:1
3767069:0:1
3767074:5:19
3767115:0:18
3767119:0:2
3767138:0:2
3767260:0:3
3767325:0:3
3767326:0:3
3767448:0:1
3767467:0:1
3767496:0:15
3767524:0:1
3767533:0:1
3767591:6:36
3767724:0:1
3767873:3:7
3767888:0:1
3767929:0:11
3767976:0:1
3767979:0:3
3767987:0:1
3768022:0:3
3768147:0:2
3768182:0:5
3768279:0:22
3768284:1:5
3768299:0:1
3768417:0:1
3768561:0:2
3768645:0:1
3768871:0:2
3768938:0:2
3769035:0:1
3769305:0:2
3769329:0:1
3769360:0:1
3769704:0:1
3769768:0:4
3769913:0:1
Full list (1 MB)
Total number of users who received 1 or more Merit: 51854Sample 1. 21840 Merit received by LoyceV (#459836) from 1130 unique users in 12688 transactions
2. 21550 Merit received by fillippone (#1852120) from 779 unique users in 11779 transactions
3. 18930 Merit received by o_e_l_e_o (#1188543) from 801 unique users in 10001 transactions
4. 15727 Merit received by El duderino_ (#1067333) from 481 unique users in 9013 transactions
5. 15160 Merit received by theymos (#35) from 1235 unique users in 5531 transactions
6. 14067 Merit received by JayJuanGee (#252510) from 747 unique users in 9234 transactions
7. 13514 Merit received by icopress (#1137579) from 621 unique users in 5060 transactions
8. 12347 Merit received by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) from 510 unique users in 6753 transactions
9. 12289 Merit received by cygan (#27470) from 546 unique users in 6297 transactions
10. 11957 Merit received by Symmetrick (#2627711) from 773 unique users in 6854 transactions
11. 11597 Merit received by pooya87 (#379147) from 621 unique users in 6776 transactions
12. 11547 Merit received by philipma1957 (#64507) from 595 unique users in 6663 transactions
13. 11386 Merit received by DdmrDdmr (#1582324) from 655 unique users in 6479 transactions
14. 10977 Merit received by nutildah (#317618) from 687 unique users in 5929 transactions
15. 10805 Merit received by xhomerx10 (#120694) from 332 unique users in 5514 transactions
16. 10711 Merit received by TryNinja (#557798) from 569 unique users in 4735 transactions
17. 10589 Merit received by gmaxwell (#11425) from 348 unique users in 3884 transactions
18. 10358 Merit received by NotATether (#2739424) from 555 unique users in 4776 transactions
19. 10255 Merit received by d5000 (#85033) from 468 unique users in 5567 transactions
20. 10237 Merit received by GazetaBitcoin (#1285797) from 409 unique users in 3578 transactions
21. 10139 Merit received by BlackHatCoiner (#2775483) from 480 unique users in 5087 transactions
22. 9398 Merit received by ABCbits (#359716) from 545 unique users in 5102 transactions
23. 9193 Merit received by nc50lc (#1237156) from 417 unique users in 4752 transactions
24. 9094 Merit received by Pmalek (#112493) from 592 unique users in 5424 transactions
25. 8901 Merit received by satoshi (#3) from 414 unique users in 943 transactions
26. 8889 Merit received by dkbit98 (#1410401) from 462 unique users in 5279 transactions
27. 8609 Merit received by suchmoon (#234771) from 574 unique users in 4883 transactions
28. 8450 Merit received by Rikafip (#2658890) from 468 unique users in 4632 transactions
29. 7806 Merit received by bitmover (#1554927) from 612 unique users in 4669 transactions
30. 7614 Merit received by 1miau (#2143453) from 496 unique users in 4138 transactions
31. 7579 Merit received by AlcoHoDL (#998490) from 204 unique users in 4338 transactions
32. 7322 Merit received by PowerGlove (#3486361) from 235 unique users in 1878 transactions
33. 7242 Merit received by cAPSLOCK (#35501) from 231 unique users in 4125 transactions
34. 7220 Merit received by mikeywith (#2033515) from 406 unique users in 3681 transactions
35. 7109 Merit received by hosemary (#995810) from 415 unique users in 3930 transactions
36. 7076 Merit received by DaveF (#300014) from 389 unique users in 3624 transactions
37. 7032 Merit received by joker_josue (#97582) from 357 unique users in 3350 transactions
38. 6922 Merit received by stompix (#164749) from 499 unique users in 3879 transactions
39. 6897 Merit received by Hhampuz (#881377) from 966 unique users in 4475 transactions
40. 6838 Merit received by Lucius (#533583) from 539 unique users in 3954 transactions
41. 6829 Merit received by achow101 (#290195) from 281 unique users in 3063 transactions
42. 6799 Merit received by Hueristic (#198573) from 208 unique users in 3934 transactions
43. 6719 Merit received by OmegaStarScream (#375981) from 440 unique users in 3673 transactions
44. 6569 Merit received by Charles-Tim (#2776678) from 440 unique users in 3844 transactions
45. 6388 Merit received by The Sceptical Chymist (#487418) from 629 unique users in 3600 transactions
46. 6291 Merit received by jeremypwr (#137185) from 223 unique users in 3660 transactions
47. 6284 Merit received by NeuroticFish (#257071) from 462 unique users in 3503 transactions
48. 6089 Merit received by n0nce (#3373858) from 196 unique users in 2651 transactions
49. 5914 Merit received by DireWolfM14 (#2003859) from 400 unique users in 2819 transactions
50. 5905 Merit received by vapourminer (#33156) from 284 unique users in 3805 transactions
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51805. 1 Merit received by 12tribes (#1221082) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51806. 1 Merit received by 12assa34 (#1729394) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51807. 1 Merit received by 123tm (#848549) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51808. 1 Merit received by 123pogi123 (#2252156) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51809. 1 Merit received by 123exo123 (#1919155) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51810. 1 Merit received by 11:11pas (#1306783) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51811. 1 Merit received by 112_blockchain (#2081987) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51812. 1 Merit received by 1083ivangod (#1952712) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51813. 1 Merit received by 101Crypta (#1287691) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51814. 1 Merit received by 100x (#80115) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51815. 1 Merit received by 100steeze (#3637720) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51816. 1 Merit received by 100monet (#323057) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51817. 1 Merit received by 1000x (#3509491) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51818. 1 Merit received by 1000usdforwife (#1547718) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51819. 1 Merit received by 1000alasan (#2458354) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51820. 1 Merit received by 100%_Shared_FreeBitco.in (#2531436) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51821. 1 Merit received by 1 currency now (#23) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51822. 1 Merit received by 0xb100d (#1342964) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51823. 1 Merit received by 0xMuted (#3713926) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51824. 1 Merit received by 0xBrian (#2625170) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51825. 1 Merit received by 0x77 (#3316521) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51826. 1 Merit received by 0x1Knowledge (#2000899) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51827. 1 Merit received by 0vx (#2805438) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51828. 1 Merit received by 0nion (#3614135) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51829. 1 Merit received by 0bit (#493268) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51830. 1 Merit received by 0RajA0 (#1151527) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51831. 1 Merit received by 063Myxa (#1432563) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51832. 1 Merit received by 05btc (#2050202) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51833. 1 Merit received by 00hello (#2471124) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51834. 1 Merit received by 00RedBlack00 (#2527578) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51835. 1 Merit received by -manki- (#2012741) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51836. 1 Merit received by -kazz- (#2680522) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51837. 1 Merit received by -jf (#3668766) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51838. 1 Merit received by -droid- (#196457) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51839. 1 Merit received by -Redacted- (#129075) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51840. 1 Merit received by -Night- (#878210) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51841. 1 Merit received by -Multivitamina- (#2566641) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51842. 1 Merit received by -Khairani- (#3523933) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51843. 1 Merit received by -HK- (#1133384) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51844. 1 Merit received by -BDan- (#1751855) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51845. 1 Merit received by -ATHEIST- (#2381655) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51846. 1 Merit received by +Tatogo+ (#126552) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51847. 1 Merit received by *zismo* (#1114896) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51848. 1 Merit received by $imple$imon (#2060672) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51849. 1 Merit received by $BitMakeR$ (#1166812) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51850. 1 Merit received by $--Perfect. Exchange-$. (#1140007) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51851. 1 Merit received by #BitLucky (#2101836) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51852. 1 Merit received by #BTC (#3766500) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51853. 1 Merit received by !vanovi4 (#2145681) from 1 unique users in 1 transactions
51854. 0 Merit received by gwsukabokepjepang (#2536607) from 2 unique users in 2 transactions
Full list (5 MB)
Total number of users who gave away 1 or more sMerit: 26804Sample 1. 79199 Merit sent by El duderino_ (#1067333) to 916 unique users in 13255 transactions
2. 74004 Merit sent by fillippone (#1852120) to 2345 unique users in 32985 transactions
3. 70395 Merit sent by LoyceV (#459836) to 3367 unique users in 18350 transactions
4. 63565 Merit sent by JayJuanGee (#252510) to 3698 unique users in 61309 transactions
5. 61152 Merit sent by ABCbits (#359716) to 4776 unique users in 35059 transactions
6. 56304 Merit sent by vapourminer (#33156) to 3836 unique users in 39051 transactions
7. 46435 Merit sent by hugeblack (#1059082) to 2970 unique users in 16464 transactions
8. 41825 Merit sent by suchmoon (#234771) to 2887 unique users in 9164 transactions
9. 40187 Merit sent by xandry (#382413) to 2558 unique users in 14761 transactions
10. 38397 Merit sent by DdmrDdmr (#1582324) to 2966 unique users in 31083 transactions
11. 36915 Merit sent by LFC_Bitcoin (#379487) to 1609 unique users in 14421 transactions
12. 35006 Merit sent by klarki (#407174) to 2248 unique users in 11826 transactions
13. 33333 Merit sent by Symmetrick (#2627711) to 2254 unique users in 16803 transactions
14. 33149 Merit sent by The Sceptical Chymist (#487418) to 1500 unique users in 10513 transactions
15. 30235 Merit sent by EFS (#140584) to 1470 unique users in 7963 transactions
16. 29964 Merit sent by Welsh (#84521) to 1754 unique users in 6963 transactions
17. 26646 Merit sent by o_e_l_e_o (#1188543) to 2510 unique users in 9360 transactions
18. 25901 Merit sent by 1miau (#2143453) to 1317 unique users in 11630 transactions
19. 25822 Merit sent by qwk (#24140) to 605 unique users in 6509 transactions
20. 24160 Merit sent by pooya87 (#379147) to 1415 unique users in 9733 transactions
21. 22424 Merit sent by dbshck (#153634) to 1314 unique users in 6442 transactions
22. 19527 Merit sent by NotATether (#2739424) to 1837 unique users in 4264 transactions
23. 17404 Merit sent by nutildah (#317618) to 1819 unique users in 7881 transactions
24. 17223 Merit sent by Julien_Olynpic (#1166480) to 574 unique users in 8149 transactions
25. 17153 Merit sent by Pmalek (#112493) to 1220 unique users in 9615 transactions
26. 17141 Merit sent by Vispilio (#982288) to 760 unique users in 6420 transactions
27. 16308 Merit sent by Halab (#1053119) to 2022 unique users in 6632 transactions
28. 15579 Merit sent by bitmover (#1554927) to 1350 unique users in 8716 transactions
29. 15393 Merit sent by Foxpup (#55384) to 647 unique users in 5515 transactions
30. 14915 Merit sent by philipma1957 (#64507) to 1703 unique users in 7787 transactions
31. 14579 Merit sent by theymos (#35) to 1114 unique users in 1796 transactions
32. 14492 Merit sent by OgNasty (#18321) to 3179 unique users in 7625 transactions
33. 13908 Merit sent by CryptopreneurBrainboss (#1052091) to 1383 unique users in 7665 transactions
34. 13819 Merit sent by dkbit98 (#1410401) to 1167 unique users in 8428 transactions
35. 13713 Merit sent by krogothmanhattan (#1000199) to 668 unique users in 3656 transactions
36. 13711 Merit sent by paxmao (#1192397) to 1307 unique users in 5951 transactions
37. 13611 Merit sent by NeuroticFish (#257071) to 840 unique users in 6379 transactions
38. 13560 Merit sent by BlackHatCoiner (#2775483) to 865 unique users in 4356 transactions
39. 12444 Merit sent by d5000 (#85033) to 1228 unique users in 6784 transactions
40. 12114 Merit sent by chimk (#1202061) to 757 unique users in 4369 transactions
41. 10944 Merit sent by mikeywith (#2033515) to 549 unique users in 4006 transactions
42. 9192 Merit sent by Hueristic (#198573) to 596 unique users in 7761 transactions
43. 8943 Merit sent by babo (#65636) to 531 unique users in 7019 transactions
44. 8788 Merit sent by Buchi-88 (#204821) to 765 unique users in 7529 transactions
45. 8755 Merit sent by Coolcryptovator (#1980983) to 1072 unique users in 3779 transactions
46. 8734 Merit sent by DarkStar_ (#507936) to 971 unique users in 2196 transactions
47. 8712 Merit sent by bones261 (#452769) to 1032 unique users in 4239 transactions
48. 8683 Merit sent by Xal0lex (#1068464) to 690 unique users in 2645 transactions
49. 8553 Merit sent by BobLawblaw (#569455) to 337 unique users in 3428 transactions
50. 8371 Merit sent by OmegaStarScream (#375981) to 969 unique users in 3649 transactions
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26755. 1 Merit sent by 27QVUTZj8rgZP1 (#662730) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26756. 1 Merit sent by 2342q6tegw (#1212678) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26757. 1 Merit sent by 214missy (#1285563) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26758. 1 Merit sent by 212fox (#1342293) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26759. 1 Merit sent by 1xbitpatnar (#3475604) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26760. 1 Merit sent by 1r0n (#1252002) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26761. 1 Merit sent by 1pool Ltd. (#2062862) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26762. 1 Merit sent by 1melyun (#543052) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26763. 1 Merit sent by 1cyrax00 (#964210) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26764. 1 Merit sent by 1chempion123 (#1346880) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26765. 1 Merit sent by 1cak (#1136856) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26766. 1 Merit sent by 1amCrypt0 (#933826) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26767. 1 Merit sent by 1CryptoSmurf (#1352746) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26768. 1 Merit sent by 19nataliya12 (#1873934) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26769. 1 Merit sent by 19dimasik77 (#881779) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26770. 1 Merit sent by 19Nov16 (#921267) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26771. 1 Merit sent by 1971ECPT (#3553473) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26772. 1 Merit sent by 17buratin (#1187494) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26773. 1 Merit sent by 13ex07 (#1207068) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26774. 1 Merit sent by 13Charlie (#76987) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26775. 1 Merit sent by 12retepnat34 (#1053271) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26776. 1 Merit sent by 10yearsolder (#1094878) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26777. 1 Merit sent by 10sat (#1162504) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26778. 1 Merit sent by 10casproj (#3515598) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26779. 1 Merit sent by 10BTCaDay (#396522) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26780. 1 Merit sent by 100kk (#1316426) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26781. 1 Merit sent by 100eth (#1324600) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26782. 1 Merit sent by 0xBitcoins (#2205183) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26783. 1 Merit sent by 0xBet (#3572636) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26784. 1 Merit sent by 0x0333 (#1913654) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26785. 1 Merit sent by 0vn1 (#1216048) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26786. 1 Merit sent by 0virtual (#1244555) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26787. 1 Merit sent by 0id1d (#3600764) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26788. 1 Merit sent by 0Alvaren0 (#2020991) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26789. 1 Merit sent by 01bits (#1629161) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26790. 1 Merit sent by 01BTC (#1756786) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26791. 1 Merit sent by 00HasH (#841746) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26792. 1 Merit sent by 00DKM@ (#1311705) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26793. 1 Merit sent by 00.00WIB (#3392171) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26794. 1 Merit sent by .nuke (#89670) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26795. 1 Merit sent by .crypto (#917656) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26796. 1 Merit sent by .anto. (#548049) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26797. 1 Merit sent by -kirito (#1747828) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26798. 1 Merit sent by -Night- (#878210) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26799. 1 Merit sent by -Kaizer- (#60550) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26800. 1 Merit sent by -Blockcuan- (#2545116) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26801. 1 Merit sent by $Talker (#1043705) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26802. 1 Merit sent by $@to$h! (#1183184) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26803. 1 Merit sent by #Greatest (#3601697) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
26804. 1 Merit sent by #Bentley (#1232592) to 1 unique users in 1 transactions
Full list (3 MB)
Merit per day of the weekMonday 348613 (14.42%)
Tuesday 346677 (14.34%)
Wednesday 346660 (14.34%)
Thursday 367645 (15.21%)
Friday 366510 (15.16%)
Saturday 318567 (13.17%)
Sunday 322437 (13.33%)
Total: 2417109
* This file will be overwritten by newer versions
11. Post 67231250 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Mon Oct 12 06:19:07 CEST 2026) in Questions for the member who coined "HODL" - GameKyuubi:
feels weird man. I been messing with alts since the beginning, more back then than now. bitcoin was about freedom, which in the open source sense meant being able to make your own variant. if you're not cool with that you're not cool with bitcoin.
It could be that your brain has been fried from years of drinking, yet it seems problematic to be trying to narrow down bitcoin into certain use-cases or certain utility, especially since you have already said, in previous posts, that there can be various interpretation or even various use cases for bitcoin.
Anyone who had spent a decent amount of time accumulating bitcoin, and even perhaps mostly building up his bitcoin position prior to 2021 would have likely increased his options in life so long as he had been erroring on the side of accumulation and HODLing..., and for sure, I have already mentioned several times, that HODLing is not going to do a whole hell of a lot of good if the bitcoin stack size had not been grown enough and also there is likely a need to be able to stay committed to HODL.. which also seems that if the buying of bitcoin is ongoing, then it becomes harder to sell at any point in time, because there had been a commitment to buying.
By the way, there are likely even a lot of guys who both built their bitcoin position prior to 2020, yet they still ended up selling most if not all of their bitcoin (and they may have even made a profit), but then after they sold, they had almost no chance in hell to be able to build back whatever holdings that they used to have.
The same is true right now.. and any guy who is a no coiner or a low coiner would likely end up better off if he continues to buy bitcoin, even if it still might take 4-10 years or longer to get to a situation in which he has enough or more than enough bitcoin, which would then allow him to transition into either price based or time-based sustainable withdrawal, as I describe both of those ideas in
my sustainable withdrawal thread - which should be considered as an investor mentality rather than a trader mentality, which I wonder if you have even transitioned into any such investor mentality or if you are still in a trading mentality, in spite of your having had been able to say (or is it invent, or at least popularize) the HODL word.
Glad to have you here one more time! Glad to know you love Grateful Dead and Pink Floyd, too.
Yeah the Dead have a lot to teach for those willing to listen.
Finally, did you also hodl HODL? And burned money in the end?
What makes you think I'm done?
I get the sense that you have never accumulated enough bitcoin in order to get to a stage of having enough or more than enough coins.
There is a lot of empowerment that comes from getting to a stage of having enough or more than enough coins, yet you are not likely to get there if you are not ready, willing and/or able to transition from a trading mentality into an investing mentality... Once you are in an investing mentality, then actions (such as ongoing and persistent buying) would help you to get to a status of having enough or more than enough coins. If you sell coins at various points along the way when you had not yet reached overaccumulation status with goals of accumulating more bitcoin, you are then actually practicing a kind of gambling rather than having the assurance that ongoing and persistent buying is the one way to make sure that your bitcoin stash is getting larger on an ongoing basis rather than gambling (taking chances) about whether it will get bigger or not. None of us should be fucking around and gambling with our bitcoin. .it is an approach that is quite unlikely to have meaningful progress, especially compared to any guy seriously, consistently, persistently, investing in bitcoin 2 cycles or more.
12. Post 67231183 (unedited backup) (by GameKyuubi) (scraped on Mon Oct 12 05:03:43 CEST 2026) in Questions for the member who coined "HODL" - GameKyuubi:
feels weird man. I been messing with alts since the beginning, more back then than now. bitcoin was about freedom, which in the open source sense meant being able to make your own variant. if you're not cool with that you're not cool with bitcoin.
Glad to have you here one more time! Glad to know you love Grateful Dead and Pink Floyd, too.
Yeah the Dead have a lot to teach for those willing to listen.
Finally, did you also hodl HODL? And burned money in the end?
What makes you think I'm done?
13. Post 67230966 (unedited backup) (by Kavelj22) (scraped on Mon Oct 12 01:37:25 CEST 2026) in Ledger is one of the most secure hardware wallets after recent hack said CZ :
In all fairness, what happened wasn't strictly a Ledger wallet hack. Ledger's system wasn't compromised at all. The attack was directed at specific devices coming from a third-party reseller--authorized reseller, if I may emphasize. So, in a way, CZ was right.
I am not trying to defend Ledger, but I have known Ledger since 2019 and since that day there have been no issues regarding asset loss caused purely by Ledger's weaknesses. There are a few cases I remember such as customer data leaks, exploitation of the Ledger Connect Kit, data leaks through the Global-e system, and most recently Cryptobillis. Among these attempts, the most severe was the last one, and this also does not seem to be directly Ledger's fault but rather from their distribution partner. With this situation, I think CZ is not entirely wrong it’s just that the main problem lies with the official reseller under the Ledger company suspected of wrongdoing. Because I do realize that the risk, after leaving the company, of controlling its product will certainly become more difficult. I think this is the weakness present in the distribution network. IMO
When he said "things like this happen", it looks like giving the excuse for Ledger company so we can forgive it for its negligence. A person in his status should be in the community's favor and say that things like this shouldn't happen. Now what Mr CZ? Should we just forget the incident and move on? And also keep buying Ledger devices? Same logic should apply with cryptobilis and we should keep buying stuff from that store because things like this happen.
14. Post 67229185 (unedited backup) (by Luzin) (scraped on Sun Oct 11 15:18:14 CEST 2026) in Ledger is one of the most secure hardware wallets after recent hack said CZ :
In all fairness, what happened wasn't strictly a Ledger wallet hack. Ledger's system wasn't compromised at all. The attack was directed at specific devices coming from a third-party reseller--authorized reseller, if I may emphasize. So, in a way, CZ was right.
I am not trying to defend Ledger, but I have known Ledger since 2019 and since that day there have been no issues regarding asset loss caused purely by Ledger's weaknesses. There are a few cases I remember such as customer data leaks, exploitation of the Ledger Connect Kit, data leaks through the Global-e system, and most recently Cryptobillis. Among these attempts, the most severe was the last one, and this also does not seem to be directly Ledger's fault but rather from their distribution partner. With this situation, I think CZ is not entirely wrong it’s just that the main problem lies with the official reseller under the Ledger company suspected of wrongdoing. Because I do realize that the risk, after leaving the company, of controlling its product will certainly become more difficult. I think this is the weakness present in the distribution network. IMO
15. Post 67229000 (unedited backup) (by DiMarxist) (scraped on Sun Oct 11 14:08:31 CEST 2026) in (Hire a Manager Here) Campaign Managers & Their Portfolio (ANN) Threads/Trust:
Thank you for bringing the two managers to my notice. I have updated them in the Op.
Bump
If I have not added yours, please let me know.
I'll update the Op soon
16. Post 67228169 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Sun Oct 11 05:02:31 CEST 2026) in Questions for the member who coined "HODL" - GameKyuubi:
Many of us who have been in bitcoin and put bitcoin to actual practice realize that success in bitcoin comes from both HODL and ongoing, persistent, consistent, regular and perhaps even aggressive accumulation through buying (or perhaps earning) practices... So yeah, HODL is one part of the formula, yet HODL can really ONLY work if a reasonable decent sized stash is built.
Bitcoin always reward those that are patient to hold for long with some good number . That's why most time I'm always pained remembering the opportunity I missed then when I was still new to bitcoin. Thinking it was some kind of Ponzi scheme because I didn’t understand the technology behind it. But the main thing is that I’m still here, and I’m going to make the best of it.
Congratulations for still being here, yet I think that there is an ongoing lesson that involves ongoing hesitation instead of action, and perhaps Gamekyuubi suffered from that same thing around the time of his drunken post from 13 years ago, and also he likely suffered from such ongoing hesitation since I doubt that he really became both a HODLer and an accumulator in a meaningful and material way... and yeah, ONLY he will really know the extent to which his ongoing hesitation had remained an issue.
I did not read any of the posts beyond the announcement of a #hodl coin which I did not pay much attention to. Bitcoinlandia is the land of the free
For sure bitcoinlandia is the land of the free, and there have been and continue to be consequences for guys who fail/refuse to sufficiently and adequately stack bitcoin, even when they have had opportunities over the years... and for sure the longer that a guy had been in bitcoin, the more he could have had gotten away with being whimpy in his bitcoin accumulation and still profitted quite well, even from such whimpiness.
Since about March 2020, I have ongoingly asserted that guys need to purposefully be more aggressive than they had been in the past, and even suggesting that it takes more money to get similar results, yet at the same time, guys are going to do what they are going to do in terms of the level of their chosen aggressiveness, and level of chosen aggressiveness is a choice too.. a choice that has consequences, especially if looking 2-3 cycles into the future.
I have two questions for Gamekyuubi :
The first question is about the past...
Was it merely a coincidence that you created the term HODL exactly at that moment (December 18, 2013) when the best time to hodl Bitcoin had already passed?
Even though you sound a wee bit lost @JaanusRaim, you are pointing out a likely dilemma that Gamekyuubi and others had gone through around that time, since it tends to be hard as fuck to both hold and to continue to buy for any guys who started to buy at the top.
My own history in bitcoin starts with my buying at November/December 2013 top, which perhaps is part of the reason why I suggest that the solution in stacking and actually profiting when starting at or near the top is continuing to buy... which most likely is not what Gamekyuubi, since he largely disappeared from the forum for many years.
None the less, we can look back and see that even a relatively mild investment amount of
$50 per week starting in December 2013 would have resulted in about $33.6k, invested and a bitcoin stash of more than 23 bitcoin... but yeah, it pays to have will power, and so many guys started to buy bitcoin in and around 2013 but they did not stick with it. Many of them got shaken out in 2014 and 2015, and maybe they were delusional at various times after 2013 - even though over and over there had been chances to make up for their having had drifted into delusion.. and so even guys who might have had waited to get started until 2017, they might have had still been able to recover from their having had gone through a slow start.
So maybe
a guy who started investing in bitcoin in 2017 might have had to have had invested around $200 per week and invested in the ballpark of $100k or more in order to still get close to 11 bitcoin, yet it was still doable. For sure not a bad place to be. $100k invested and nearly 11 BTC. Many guys would be quite happy in being with that kind of a bitcoin stack size.
These days, no coiners and low coiners should still be investing, yet even if they invest $500 per week, they still might not be able to accumulate 1 bitcoin in the next 10-ish years... so $500 per week would be $25k per year and $250k after 10 years, and it may or may not be possible for bitcoin to average less than $250k in the next 10 years.. so there could be a bit of a struggle to get to 1 bitcoin, even for a guy who is willing to start right now with $500 per week and to continue for 10 years at $500 per week.
(The Bitcoin price growth during 5 years January 3, 2009 - December 18, 2013 was ca 500 000x (from $0.001 to $541),
the Bitcoin price growth during 13 years December 18, 2013 - October 10, 2026 was ca 150x (from $541 to $83068))
For sure a price curve that is less steep, yet I doubt that a less steep price curve justifies not getting started buying bitcoin.
The second question is about the future...
Bitcoin is not only all grown up (around 18 years old) but also mature: it has "reached the Moon", its market capitalization has surpassed the trillion-dollar mark, and it is now perceived as a genuine asset.
Meanwhile, all other cryptocurrencies remain "under the pull of Earth's gravity": they are not viewed as genuine assets, and no one would be surprised if their prices were to drop to zero.
What do you think, will the cryptocurrencies market develop at the similar size as the stock market and there will be many many Bitcoin-like trillion-dollar-market-cap cryptocurrencies or will the Bitcoin stay basically the only bird in the world ?
Of course, you @JaanusRaim seem distracted, like you (as a shitcoiner) is asking another shitcoiner how shitcoins are going to perform in the coming years. Great example of a lack of focus.. but hey, you do you.
GameKyuubi is probably not an isolated case in Bitcoinlandia. There are certainly a handful other
legends, perhaps more than a handful, who eventually turned into shitcoiners in the end.
It is not easy to not get sucked into shitcoins and/or trading. I am not going to deny that, especially for many guys who likely come to bitcoin with a pre-existing gambling mindset.
17. Post 67227969 (unedited backup) (by bisdak40) (scraped on Sun Oct 11 01:17:25 CEST 2026) in Alvarez vs Mbilli - WBC Super Middleweight confirmed in Sept:
The odds speak enough of the risk. I don't think Canelo would be defeated by M'billi, especially not via decision. I'm expecting that if a round could be given to either fighters, it would most likely go to Canelo.
Apart from that, it seems M'billi's fighting style isn't the kind that frustrates Canelo. I've only watched M'billi's highlights against Martinez and I don't even think the boxer is a threat, except perhaps if Canelo would show that his age has already caught up to him on fight night.
If not, and M'billi won't be the fighter that would keep Canelo chasing, attacks and throws counters once Canelo opens up, and then quickly goes away, this is probably Canelo's game. If M'billi fights like Canelo, the way I saw in his fight against Martinez, he'd probably lose.
I’ve reviewed the highlights of that fight between Mbilli vs. Martinez and it seems you are right ,Mbilli is not the kind of fighter who could frustrate Canelo Álvarez, as he is slower compared to Crawford and Bivol, and his defense is not as good as Bivol’s. So he might get hurt with Canelo’s body shots, which are one of his most lethal weapons. But I also don’t believe that Canelo can knock out Mbilli, because from what I see he is one tough customer. There’s a high probability this fight will go the distance in favor of Canelo, and those @1.83 odds for that option are not bad at all, we’ll just make our bet a bit bigger.
18. Post 67226342 (unedited backup) (by Don Pedro Dinero) (scraped on Sat Oct 10 15:24:43 CEST 2026) in Value extraction from love roulette :
It is possible to exploit physic based advantage with real roulette wheel. I read this
report showing that if rotation of ball and wheel can be measured precisely then EV of approximately 18% is achievable. However, I do not believe this advantage can be utilized in live online roulette.
There is usually delay of 2 or 3 second in stream. Consequently, a portion of time elapses before video even reaches to casino. And casino stops accepting bet almost immediately. As a result your 3 second window expire before you even see video. When you factor in both video delay and timing of bet lock, that 3 second opportunity effectively ceases to exist.
Moreover dealer are changed frequently, ball is also replaced often. wheel's level is regularly adjusted and checked. Even if there is any measurable bias then it is eliminated before it can be exploited.
Right, so in theory, yes, but in practice, no. If anyone ever took advantage of it, it was in the past, as has been mentioned; these days, the casinos have everything too tightly under control for you to be able to exploit that.
It's much harder to try look for a pattern or loophole in online roulette than in brick-and-mortar casinos
The thing is, there isn’t a loophole in online roulette, unless the casino operators are so daft as to set up a roulette wheel with a programming fault. It’s a bit like putting a calculator that gets some calculations wrong.
19. Post 67225828 (unedited backup) (by Abdul Sami786) (scraped on Sat Oct 10 11:33:31 CEST 2026) in Value extraction from love roulette :
It is possible to exploit physic based advantage with real roulette wheel. I read this
report showing that if rotation of ball and wheel can be measured precisely then EV of approximately 18% is achievable. However, I do not believe this advantage can be utilized in live online roulette.
There is usually delay of 2 or 3 second in stream. Consequently, a portion of time elapses before video even reaches to casino. And casino stops accepting bet almost immediately. As a result your 3 second window expire before you even see video. When you factor in both video delay and timing of bet lock, that 3 second opportunity effectively ceases to exist.
Moreover dealer are changed frequently, ball is also replaced often. wheel's level is regularly adjusted and checked. Even if there is any measurable bias then it is eliminated before it can be exploited.
It's much harder to try look for a pattern or loophole in online roulette than in brick-and-mortar casinos. It's also easier to track bets and wins and possible patterns among players. If there's a player who noticeably makes more money than mere luck could possibly provide, casinos could easily implement limits.
It seems to me that here in such games there are patterns, so it is difficult to understand whether they are playing honestly or through cheating. There are such tricks in gambling because if we see in movies, they change the position of the roulette, so here too we can understand that they are cheating like this. Obviously they have all the records, due to which they are earning money from gambling with such tricks. This is a separate thing and everyone's win is also based on luck because in gambling we cannot use our brains in any way or we can guess, apart from that we cannot do anything. Some tricks are also done by them and some are our luck which is also attributed to the win, so in gambling, maximum motivation will be from them.
20. Post 67225016 (unedited backup) (by aioc) (scraped on Sat Oct 10 00:33:19 CEST 2026) in Alvarez vs Mbilli - WBC Super Middleweight confirmed in Sept:
....M'billi's fighting style isn't the kind that frustrates Canelo. I've only watched M'billi's highlights against Martinez and I don't even think the boxer is a threat, except perhaps if Canelo would show that his age has already caught up to him on fight night.
Only Canelo can beat himself if the age finally catches up with him, then his opponents need to do their thing, but if Canelo still has it, then he can put a big challenge to everyone, honestly, for me, this is a cherry picked fght for Canelo to look good after that Crawford loss, he needs to beat a boxer who looks tough and with a good record to get another big money fight.
This is a very interesting fight; many want to see if Canelo is still the same Canelo after the Crawford fight, or if Mbili shows up well prepared, he can hand Canelo his retirement in the ring.
21. Post 67222897 (unedited backup) (by taufik123) (scraped on Fri Oct 9 12:57:19 CEST 2026) in Convincing My Cousin to Invest $20,000 in Bitcoin:
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For me, it's better to just introduce Bitcoin and answer questions if he/she's interested about it. Let interest grow naturally. It's hard to give financial advice with a market that's highly uncertain. If Bitcoin suddenly nosedives, drops all the way back to $60,000 in the next week or two, and your cousin panics, distressed, and is losing sleep, won't even listen to you anymore, what would you do?
It can be a long-lasting problem, as I once did this when my brother asked about How to invest in Bitcoin because he saw me being quite successful in bitcoin in recent years.
But I always refused to suggest he invest before he learned how Bitcoin works, how crypto works and what the risks are.
If he is sure and understands what the risks are I would only suggest investing directly by opening his own Exchange account and making a deposit to his account,
I never accept deposits for other people's investments because the risk would also be greater.
And about the story of the OP with his cousin's $20,000 investment fund, he needs to know how to do good and correct fund management as well,
because he is worried that he will go straight in with 1 Order worth $20,000 and it will be a big single purchase.
22. Post 67219966 (unedited backup) (by windpath) (scraped on Thu Oct 8 15:40:31 CEST 2026) in Everything Bitcoin was called that turned out wrong: whats missing from our list:
It's live, and this thread is all over it:
Rat Poison, Tulips and a Pet Rock: Everything Bitcoin's Been Called (so far)What this thread put in it:
- aoluain's three threads: Buffett and Munger have an arc from "rat poison" in 2013 to "$25 for all of it" in 2022, Dimon's 2015 and 2016 "governments would stop it" lines are in, and Roubini's 2018 Senate testimony and "zero" tweet are in the bubbles section.
- Davidvictorson and Cookdata: the Nigeria ban, February 2021 to December 2023, with #EndSARS as the lead-in and what came after the lift. Nheer's caution is in too: bitcoin kept money moving, it did not win the protest.
- boyptc: "fad." Shiller's word was "faddish," in April 2018 (at Davos that January he said "not a permanent feature of our lives"), and Howard Marks wrote "unfounded fad" in 2017, then took it back in 2021.
- Cryptomultiplier: Krugman's "Golden Cyberfetters," September 2011, the deflation argument, filed under partly right because the hoarding happened.
- d5000: obsolete and flippened, the Spiegel column, the mining death spiral (tested by China's 2021 ban), and the energy concession. Darker45: Gates and Medalla on the greater fool, and Munger. pooya87: Hearn's own entry. matrixx: GHash.io. Haunebu: Jack Ma. Catenaccio: Trump, from "seems like a scam" to the reserve.
The r/Bitcoin twin thread shaped the structure: the "can't recover from this" section, sorting every label by what would prove it wrong, and the closing section on what our own side got wrong.
Everyone above is credited by handle at the bottom of the chapter. If any of the dates or quotes are off, say so and it gets fixed and credited. Thanks, all of you.
23. Post 67218215 (unedited backup) (by Hamza2424) (scraped on Thu Oct 8 00:05:19 CEST 2026) in Convincing My Cousin to Invest $20,000 in Bitcoin:
Although I've made profit with Bitcoin, at a rate I can't gain elsewhere, I prefer not to convince somebody to invest in it. Especially to somebody who still has suspicions or doesn't understand it yet, suggesting that he/she invests in Bitcoin could have a tragic ending. It could end your healthy relationship, too.
For me, it's better to just introduce Bitcoin and answer questions if he/she's interested about it. Let interest grow naturally. It's hard to give financial advice with a market that's highly uncertain. If Bitcoin suddenly nosedives, drops all the way back to $60,000 in the next week or two, and your cousin panics, distressed, and is losing sleep, won't even listen to you anymore, what would you do?
Yep, if we force our idea and they face a loss, then friendship could be broken over forced advice. Therefore, as a friend, I don't force anyone, unless I know the outcome and I convince my friends. And if they don't agree, I might make them a deal like I will cover some percentage of the loss or something just to make sure they invest, because true friends want their friends to grow.
But investing $ 20k directly is not good advice, but I can't say if it is because I need to know about the friend's financial status. If his friend's entire savings is $20k, then he should never invest it all in BTC.
24. Post 67218126 (unedited backup) (by Moreno233) (scraped on Wed Oct 7 23:35:19 CEST 2026) in Thai Anti-Crime Crusader Accused in $30M Online Gambling Probe:
This will be a very interesting matter especially as it involves someone who is known for anti-crime activity participating in the very things he is against.
I don't know how their law is but detaining him for as much as 12 days and denying him bail is definitely something that will not happen in some other countries.
It's hard to make a conjecture based only on what's written here. It's possible the man is indeed involved in shady activities. It's also possible he's just being framed. It could easily be either, especially coming from somebody who doesn't have much knowledge of the context and socio-political culture of the country.
Based on the realities of another country not so far away, it's not surprising for an advocate against crime to be a criminal himself/herself. Equally, it's also not surprising for somebody who fights against powerful criminals to suddenly be arrested for a crime one didn't commit.
I can only hope the truth prevails here.
So long as there is no conviction in this case, it can be taken as accusation which can be true or false. I know that there is high chance of this statement being true because of the amount involved which can change anybody.
25. Post 67216889 (unedited backup) (by IjawMan) (scraped on Wed Oct 7 16:50:20 CEST 2026) in Everything Bitcoin was called that turned out wrong: whats missing from our list:
He made fun of Bitcoin in May of 2018 on CNBC's Squawk Box calling it "pure 'greater fool theory' type of investment." He even added that he'd short it if there was an easy way to.
That's the dated source the greater fool entry was missing. Somebody on the Reddit thread raised the label yesterday but with no name attached. Gates, CNBC, 7 May 2018, two days after Buffett's rat poison line at the same Berkshire weekend. If you can find the Medalla interview I'll add him too, a central bank governor saying it is worth more than another investor saying it.
I'll try to find that Medalla interview. I actually did but to no avail so far. I'll try harder and get back to this thread as soon as I find it. I remember it was just an ambush interview and the quick question about Bitcoin was made in passing.
Excuse me, is it the interview with Felipe Medalla in June 2022 where he described Bitcoin as the “greater fool theory.” if that is what you looking for then you can check this article link if it helps:
https://bworldonline.com/top-stories/2022/06/20/455998/incoming-bsp-governor-not-keen-on-cryptocurrency/By the way, I'm a bit surprised the late Charlie Munger doesn't have an entry here. The man could easily spew a continuous stream of vitriol against Bitcoin in one sitting.
Charlie Munger until his death never had any soft-spoken spot for Bitcoin, his criticism were some of the harshest I ever heard of about Bitcoin. Rat poison was his word for Bitcoin in 2013
In 2018 Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting he described bitcoin trading as dementia and worthless.
In one of his last interview about Bitcoin before his death he called it a stink ball.
https://x.com/NateGeraci/status/1721002360724504611https://u.today/warren-buffetts-right-hand-man-slams-bitcoin?from=card
26. Post 67216615 (unedited backup) (by Z-tight) (scraped on Wed Oct 7 15:28:55 CEST 2026) in Bitcoin and ETFs: why capital inflows do not guarantee a higher price:
These people are only looking for opportunities of investment into something, and get profit from it while they don't actually care to use Bitcoin, and own bitcoins as well as secure bitcoins by themselves. They don't have need of having full control, having own bitcoin bank, and they are not fearful of centralized platforms with risk of losing money.
Yeah, and while i am all for self-custody and i never fail to reconmend it, what these investor do isn't inherently bad. If they want to get exposure to BTC without owning their own keys, good for them, will i do it? No. But nobody really cares if they care about BTC or not, a lot of retail investors also store their BTC in centralized exchanges.
They aren't meant to give you a neutral or objective picture or assessment. They're meant to make you excited, positive, interested; worse, hyped and even fearful of being left behind.
Investor sentiment. People sell or buy for alot of crazy reasons, and it is true that large etf outflows can signal 'trouble' for some of these weak hands and they'd sell their coins. The same goes when it's in the other direction.
27. Post 67216415 (unedited backup) (by NanLomarig) (scraped on Wed Oct 7 14:32:07 CEST 2026) in GambleFi in 2026: Why revenue is replacing token emissions:
How would you measure whether revenue-backed rewards actually improve retention?
I'd look at cohorts: how many players are still active after 30, 60 and 90 days, split by whether they got rewards or not. I'd also check what they do with the rewards, because if most of it gets withdrawn or sold right away, it's not really helping retention. The best test is what happens when the reward rate changes, if activity holds up, people are staying for the product and not just the payout.
I'm not a fan of casinos minting their own tokens. Worse, they're keeping much of the total supply. For me, that's an unnecessary aspect. I may have a very limited understanding of such feature, but it seems, generally, it's simply added to create easy and free money for the developers.
Moreover, it's also a point of failure, an unnecessary point of failure. Poor management of the token could cause failure to the entire business. A casino is already a money-making machine. Why issue tokens?
On the part of the gamblers, it's unfair if they're winning in the casino but still ends up losing overall because the price of the token goes down.
Those are fair concerns, and that's pretty much why I ended up asking whether the economy would still make sense without a token at all. The price risk for players is real if rewards are paid in the token, which is why models that pay rewards in stablecoins look more reasonable to me. How the supply is split also matters a lot, so I think it's worth checking that before trusting any of these projects.
I feel like crypto casinos are more profitable compared to exchanges. But I don't know the exact data.
This is an interesting topic to study. I’ll make a note for the future.
28. Post 67216387 (unedited backup) (by promise444c5) (scraped on Wed Oct 7 14:21:43 CEST 2026) in Conduit sues Tether over $2.76 million freeze, says it has 'no legal entitlement:
A big part of me wishes Tether is found guilty and ordered by the court to not only return what they froze but also to pay hefty damages and the profit deprived from Conduit while the fund was in Tether's possession.
Haha
.. I don’t think it will be hefty even if they have to pay any damage and that’s if they are eventually ruled guilty [which is also unlikely].
Conduit is still fresh.. they are not the first and I think they won’t be the last either .
Centino holdings did same December and last year and as you can see ;
NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL pursuant to Rule 41(a)(1)(A)(i) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the plaintiff(s) and or their counsel(s), hereby give notice that the above-captioned action is voluntarily dismissed, without prejudice and without costs against the defendant(s) Tether Holdings Limited, Tether International Limited, Tether Limited, Tether Operations Limited. Document filed by Centino Holdings Inc.
.. and this was a month after.
Same thing happened with the
$44.72M sue from Riverstone Consultancy Let’s see how this one ends ..
29. Post 67216010 (unedited backup) (by Bigjoe33) (scraped on Wed Oct 7 11:37:13 CEST 2026) in Thai Anti-Crime Crusader Accused in $30M Online Gambling Probe:
It's hard to make a conjecture based only on what's written here. It's possible the man is indeed involved in shady activities. It's also possible he's just being framed. It could easily be either, especially coming from somebody who doesn't have much knowledge of the context and socio-political culture of the country.
Based on the realities of another country not so far away, it's not surprising for an advocate against crime to be a criminal himself/herself. Equally, it's also not surprising for somebody who fights against powerful criminals to suddenly be arrested for a crime one didn't commit.
I can only hope the truth prevails here.
Yea, it could be both. Of course, if you are fighting criminals, there is every possiblity of them plotting against you to incriminate you and pull you down, and only the right investigations and/or truth will make things more clearer. But the problem is in the process. How can the truth be uncovered? Probably, more work would be done.
I think if it's a normal suspicious accusations, then the probe can be just okay and follow due normal legal procedures without any negative gimmicks to uncover the truth of the matter. But if it is a plot against him as he claims, then the process might want to bend the outcome and it may not be trusted. Let's see how it goes.
