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1. Post 67261382 (unedited backup) (by JaanusRaim) (scraped on Wed Oct 21 00:57:01 CEST 2026) in Mining reward has not been the only thing that has halved in every halving cycle:

Quote from: sergiorus on Today at 02:33:12 PM
Well the returns weren't exactly ''halving'', they are sure diminishing but that just happens when the capitalisation of an asset grows.

You can see it with the altcoins with a long established chart history that do new highs every cycle, most of them do not have ''halvings'', some are not even mineable, yet the returns are diminishing as well.

Long story short: you're right about diminishing growth rate but there's no correlation with halvings of mining rewards.

The diminishing growth rate is no surprise but both the Bitcoin price increases and potential profitability have literally halved in log scale - especially during the first free halving cycles.


Are you sure of the math? from what I see the profitability way more than *halved*, speaking freely it was collapsing every cycle. If the profitability was only *halving*, the price of BTC would have been many many times higher now.

But again, looking at the older altcoins with chart history - it was pretty much the same for them.

Both price growth and potential profitability are halved in log scale.

I have found no altcoin (nor other asset) whose price development resembles with Bitcoin during its first three halving cycles. Except that their early price growth is understandably faster than later ones.

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 02:49:21 AM
Perhaps this very "golden ratio" is (subconsciously) one of the reasons for the Bitcoin cult that we see today... We have all felt these magical numbers, even if we haven’t been aware of their existence.

The Bitcoin cult, of which you seem to be a member, is born because some people are attaching magical meanings to what's otherwise simply logical.

I don't know if I get exactly what you're driving at, but it seems you're extremely amazed at the correlation of numbers which are not completely unrelated at all.

Early price growth is understandably faster than later ones because the price was extremely low. Therefore, the market only needs a smaller capital for its value to multiply. The growth naturally slows down as the price further increases. Along with it, of course, is profitability. And then there's also the saturation factor in the market. On the other hand, halvings mean the regular injection of new supply in circulation is systematically reduced. So, it can't suppress the growth and demand. And it's predictable. It's a pattern, out of which arises another pattern of market behaviors.

Of cause, the numbers are related. And something similar is found for example in Litecoin, Etherum and Dogecoin, the real estate in the Former Soviet Union and so on and so on. However, this similarity is limited solely to the existence of the fact you pointed out: early price growth is much faster than the later ones.
But neither the price growth nor potential profitability decrease follow the same rule as for BTC...
During the first halving cycle (4 years), the price of BTC increased by almost - the error is remarkably insignificant 0.1 order of magnitudes from 4.0 order of magnitudes - exactly the same amount (10000x) as it did in all the subsequent years combined.
During the second halving cycle, the price of BTC increased by almost exactly the same amount (100x) as it did in all the subsequent years combined.
During the third halving cycle, the price of BTC increased by almost exactly the same amount (10x) as it did in all the subsequent years combined.

During the first halving cycle, the potential profitability of BTC decreased by almost exactly the same amount as it did in all the subsequent years combined.
During the second halving cycle, the potential profitability of BTC decreased by almost exactly the same amount as it did in all the subsequent years combined.
During the third halving cycle, the potential profitability of BTC decreased by almost exactly the same amount as it did in all the subsequent years combined.


Point out some other asset that could show something similar and I will abandon the Bitcoin cult instantly.




2. Post 67260533 (unedited backup) (by DrBeer) (scraped on Tue Oct 20 20:50:37 CEST 2026) in Bitcoin and the Economics of Voluntary Money: Scarcity, Utility, or Trust?:

Quote from: viljy on September 28, 2026, 09:15:20 AM

This is an important observation. You pointed out another aspect of trust. Along with voluntary trust, I would call it something akin to sympathy or benevolence. If we trust government money as much as we trust the government (in general), then in the case of Bitcoin, no such trust is required at all, since Bitcoin is inherently reliable. This is where what you identified as voluntary trust comes from. You’re right that this is the incentive for investment and the driving force behind the network effect.

As a matter of fact, we don't even trust government money. But we have no choice because it's forced upon us. It's the law that commands us to use it. We're using money that we don't trust at all. Whether we like it or not, we have to use it.

Yes, it is. Therefore, in some countries, people have so little faith in their national currency that they prefer to keep their savings in dollars. Although the dollar is not perfect either, people choose, as they say, the lesser of two evils.

...and this raises the question: why haven’t people simply switched to Bitcoin for their daily payments and routine financial transactions?
Let me answer that right away - no, the government doesn’t prohibit it! In most countries, Bitcoin is not considered MONEY, which means exchanging goods or services for Bitcoin is simply a trade -a kind of barter. We could just as easily exchange, say, gum wrappers for food,  they aren’t money either, so there’s no income, and therefore no basis for taxation.... So what went wrong?!



3. Post 67258052 (unedited backup) (by Dave1) (scraped on Tue Oct 20 07:11:37 CEST 2026) in Mining reward has not been the only thing that has halved in every halving cycle:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 02:49:21 AM
Perhaps this very "golden ratio" is (subconsciously) one of the reasons for the Bitcoin cult that we see today... We have all felt these magical numbers, even if we haven’t been aware of their existence.

The Bitcoin cult, of which you seem to be a member, is born because some people are attaching magical meanings to what's otherwise simply logical.

I don't know if I get exactly what you're driving at, but it seems you're extremely amazed at the correlation of numbers which are not completely unrelated at all.

Early price growth is understandably faster than later ones because the price was extremely low. Therefore, the market only needs a smaller capital for its value to multiply. The growth naturally slows down as the price further increases. Along with it, of course, is profitability. And then there's also the saturation factor in the market. On the other hand, halvings mean the regular injection of new supply in circulation is systematically reduced. So, it can't suppress the growth and demand. And it's predictable. It's a pattern, out of which arises another pattern of market behaviors.

Exactly, and do add to that, I don't know, it makes thing complicated to us to understand. On the contrary, some of us might not go with that too much technicalities, same as when we see graphs and patterns for predicting the price in the future.

In any case, others might find the numbers or the idea of the OP. But for the majority of us, it might be better to not dig ourselves with this kind of conundrums. For us, there is going to be halving no matter what every 4 years and this is the catalyst of the next eventual bull run.



4. Post 67257906 (unedited backup) (by Catenaccio) (scraped on Tue Oct 20 05:26:31 CEST 2026) in Bank of America hit with $1.2 billion penalty over money laundering failures:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 02:00:45 AM
The bank sucks! Yet the bank remains in operation, continues to be in the good graces of the government. Apart from this $1.2 billion in penalty, mainly for money-laundering violations, it has also paid hundreds of millions in settlement for discrimination, another millions for financial fraud, more than a hundred million for deceptive practices, among others.

Notwithstanding all this, the bank remains standing tall until today!
Banks and cryptocurrency centralized exchanges paid penalty money then their business operations continue until a time they want to sell their business, close it or bankrupt by severe incidents in the future.

Years ago, when CZ had to imprison for months, Binance had to pay $4B as penalty for their exchange's money laundering violations, it was like a shocking news but years later in 2026, Binance is still here, and serve many users in cryptocurrency industry. Likely in recent months, with mICA in Europe, Binance have changed their policy and tightened their AML enforcement.



5. Post 67256346 (unedited backup) (by Accardo) (scraped on Mon Oct 19 18:27:31 CEST 2026) in Best Agent Casinos — AI Agents Are Actually Gambling Now:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 01:23:59 AM
Other than that, your AI losing doesn't mean you aren't involved at all. Your AI is betting your money. And so it's still very possible that chasing losses could still happen. The AI handle or agent doesn't truly care about your money. All it does is analyze and play. If your money is taken from what should've been intended for bills, your AI couldn't care less.

"Self blame, fatigue, dopamine chase, and compulsion" may, therefore, remain. "Emotional stress" will be yours, too. AI doesn't experience that.
Looking at how players get carried away due to the mental stress caused by excessive gambling, and the need to top up during this period to further fuel dopamine, AI integration will limit how gamers wager endlessly in hopes for wins. A player could set up a bankroll for the agent to wager low amounts over a duration of 3 hours, while the gambler is out there doing real life activities. When the duration is over, and the gambler comes in to check up on the results, do you think the pain or emotional melt down of losing all the bankroll would be equated to that of a player who sat all through the session for 3 hours and still lost every dime in their bankroll?



6. Post 67255484 (unedited backup) (by abjinny_bluetwoseven) (scraped on Mon Oct 19 14:33:55 CEST 2026) in Satoshi Help!:

Quote from: aoluain on Today at 10:18:03 AM
Maybe you'll wait a little longer to witness his miracle return
The more time I spend on this Forum, the more I am wondering if I am part of a community or a cult because this sounds like some of you are waiting for some kind of Rapture.

The community has some cultish tendencies. But I think that statement you're responding to is made with tongue in cheek. Regardless, the fact that here's somebody running to the almighty Satoshi crying for help proves the point.


What you quoted is not something I wrote.

I do not lie or joke.

Hey, I can direct you to either of these two profiles belonging to Satoshi

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=000001 - this is marked ADMIN

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=000003 - this is Satoshi's profile page

From there you can send Satoshi a PM and then from there you will just have to wait until
he* gets a chance to deal with all the previous messages which were sent.



You could also ask your query in either of these two boards on the forum . . .

Development and Technical Discussion

Wallet Software

After that its really a lost cause I wuld say.


Thank you so much.

I attempted to send a message to the administrator and Satoshi's account, but messages from new subscribers are not being received.

If possible, please send a message mentioning my ID(abjinny_bluetwoseven) stating that I would like to recover my 2009 wallet.



7. Post 67255132 (unedited backup) (by aoluain) (scraped on Mon Oct 19 12:18:08 CEST 2026) in Satoshi Help!:

Quote from: abjinny_bluetwoseven on Today at 05:09:28 AM
Maybe you'll wait a little longer to witness his miracle return
The more time I spend on this Forum, the more I am wondering if I am part of a community or a cult because this sounds like some of you are waiting for some kind of Rapture.

The community has some cultish tendencies. But I think that statement you're responding to is made with tongue in cheek. Regardless, the fact that here's somebody running to the almighty Satoshi crying for help proves the point.


What you quoted is not something I wrote.

I do not lie or joke.

Hey I can direct you to either of these two profiles belonging to Satoshi

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=000001 - this is marked ADMIN

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=000003 - this is Satoshi's profile page

From there you can send Satoshi a PM and then from there you will just have to wait until
he* gets a chance to deal with all the previous messages which were sent.









8. Post 67254572 (unedited backup) (by blockman) (scraped on Mon Oct 19 08:17:19 CEST 2026) in Can Traditional Savings Group Still Work In Today’s Economy?:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 03:29:52 AM
Not a fan of this kind of scheme. Perhaps it works to some mainly because of the lack of self-discipline. Moreover, as far as I know, most of this kind of community savings didn't end well.

If you get $1,200 once a year by contributing $100 monthly to the community savings, you could also do it on your own. After all, you're just getting what you're contributing anyway. It's even safer that way.  With this saving scheme, the points of failure are unnecessarily multiplied.

Digital tools may improve this. For example, in terms of transparency. But it isn't necessarily made reliable. There's too much trust involved in this system. You need to trust every member, and every point of trust is a risk.
I agree, this isn't ideal for those who had a terrible experience with how their group managed their money or doesn't trust other people to handle their savings. There's not a lot of incentives for an individual to get into this but, maybe just for the very few ones can matter. Better to handle your own savings and you can pull it out anytime you wish to. I think with these community or group savings, there are thresholds of how long you have to lock the savings before they allow you to withdraw so, you'll not be able to use it in times of emergencies although that's really a separate account to save with.



9. Post 67254438 (unedited backup) (by abjinny_bluetwoseven) (scraped on Mon Oct 19 07:09:31 CEST 2026) in Satoshi Help!:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 04:05:23 AM
Maybe you'll wait a little longer to witness his miracle return
The more time I spend on this Forum, the more I am wondering if I am part of a community or a cult because this sounds like some of you are waiting for some kind of Rapture.

The community has some cultish tendencies. But I think that statement you're responding to is made with tongue in cheek. Regardless, the fact that here's somebody running to the almighty Satoshi crying for help proves the point.


What you quoted is not something I wrote.

I do not lie or joke.



10. Post 67253712 (unedited backup) (by d5000) (scraped on Sun Oct 18 23:14:49 CEST 2026) in Russia to ban peer-to-peer crypto trades: What does it mean for traders?:

Quote from: Dogedegen on October 17, 2026, 11:40:40 PM
Do you know that in most countries there you can't even get 100 EUR in cash from an Bitcoin ATM without KYC? This is what you mean with Europe not being close to this kind of law?
No, there is a striking difference for me. Trading P2P is a contract between individuals. Restricting such contracts is imo much worse than imposing KYC restrictions to businesses providing Bitcoin services. And the prohibition to transfer to self-custody wallets is the topping of the cake: as in my previous answer that basically bans self-custody.

Quote from: Dogedegen on October 17, 2026, 11:40:40 PM
The only thing missing is a law explicitly banning peer to peer transactions, but they are very close to banning them in practice unless you are referring to transactions which involve money that will never be declared.
I don't know what you're referring to here, i.e. the practice in countries like Spain that Bitcoiners have to declare most transactions for tax purposes?

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 05:04:22 AM
Regardless, however, I don't consider Russia as "one of the most hostile" to crypto. In the first place, the country has opened its doors to it. Obviously, the most hostile ones are those that outright ban crypto.
There are only very few countries that really have banned Bitcoin, and in many cases (e.g. Bolivia) the "ban" was probably illegal itself (and has since then been lifted). Russia's restrictions are probably worse than China's now, even if there are licensed trading platforms, China doesn't prohibit P2P and self-custody.

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 05:04:22 AM
To ban crypto for payments isn't necessarily an atrocity considering that it's essentially how it is in many parts of the world including mine. The difference, however, is that payment in Russia is interpreted more strictly. Payment in other parts of the world is loosely interpreted in that it's literally accepted but can't be reported as such in the official books.
With the term "atrocity" I refer to the ban in Turkey and (probably, if I understand correctly) Russia, where there are specific restrictions trying to specifically prevent (and punish) "circunventing" of the ban with some intermediate "bartering" step (and in the books it figures as local currency). In most other countries instead you can accept Bitcoin like when you accept some form of barter.



11. Post 67253608 (unedited backup) (by Dogedegen) (scraped on Sun Oct 18 22:43:25 CEST 2026) in Russia to ban peer-to-peer crypto trades: What does it mean for traders?:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 05:04:22 AM
I especially find it ridiculous or even too harsh to even ban direct transactions using addresses or wallets within a regulated exchange. It seems they have such a big issue with peer-to-peer and they're bent on dismantling it.

Regardless, however, I don't consider Russia as "one of the most hostile" to crypto. In the first place, the country has opened its doors to it. Obviously, the most hostile ones are those that outright ban crypto. Still hostile but a little less are those that accept crypto but bar banks and other financial institutions from catering crypto-related transactions.

In all fairness, Russia doesn't impose a blanket ban on crypto. Neither does it prevent banks from getting involved with it.

To ban crypto for payments isn't necessarily an atrocity considering that it's essentially how it is in many parts of the world including mine. The difference, however, is that payment in Russia is interpreted more strictly. Payment in other parts of the world is loosely interpreted in that it's literally accepted but can't be reported as such in the official books.
See you understand the nuance of the situation and put your bias aside to try to see the situation what it truly is. We can't make judgements based on biases or about single decisions, but the important thing is also to look at trends. Many countries had much better laws and freedoms regarding Bitcoin and crypto in the past and have continued to get worst, the big example of this is the European Union and that is why Bitcoin is actually quite weak there compared to the current leader like the US. Russia is the opposite case, it was always against it and banned it so this is actually a big move towards a better future. We are not going to get there with big leaps and perfect solutions, so people need to be fair when analyzing things. They might never get to where they are supposed to be, but this is a step in the right direction for them only recently they made it not completely banned.



12. Post 67252617 (unedited backup) (by m2017) (scraped on Sun Oct 18 17:12:19 CEST 2026) in Russia to ban peer-to-peer crypto trades: What does it mean for traders?:

Quote from: d5000 on October 17, 2026, 07:03:30 PM
Note that @Darker45 and @pooya87 are correct imo: Self-custody isn't technically banned in that Russian regulation.
It is not prohibited, provided that these assets are held on licensed platforms (there are currently 13 such licensed platforms). However, assets cannot be withdrawn to one’s own non-custodial wallet, which, in effect, makes self-custody impossible. It amounts to a sort of veiled prohibition.

In short, this bill turns the entire concept of cryptocurrencies upside down.
Quote from: d5000 on October 17, 2026, 07:03:30 PM
But afaik interpreting the articles correctly it would only be possible to obtain self-custodied BTC through mining / cloud mining or buying before mid-2027.
Only if the recipient’s address (wallet) is managed by an organization that is authorized to manage wallets (belonging to others).
 
Quote from: d5000 on October 17, 2026, 07:03:30 PM
I wonder if Russia has an exception for "private non commercial trades", a lot of countries do have that and you can barter or trade most goods (excluding stuff like weapons or illegal drugs) without the State's intervention. If that exists, it would open a "hole" for cash-to-BTC trades between friends or neighbors.
Legally, barter is permitted in Russia under what is known as an "exchange agreement", which is used for "goods-for-goods" swaps.Cryptocurrencies are classified as "property" (this also applies to "digital currency", which can't be used as a means of payment - isn't that absurd? Smiley), rather than as commodities. It is highly unlikely that this loophole could be exploited. It’s an interesting situation, really: market participants wait for official regulation, only to then start hunting for (advantageous) loopholes in the law. Doesn't it strike you that this type of regulation might be improper improper regulationor at least not what was expected? Smiley

Quote from: d5000 on October 17, 2026, 07:03:30 PM
They could also try perhaps to buy non-custodial BTC when abroad.
And stay right there. Smiley


By the way, if personal possession of crypto (in their own wallets) is prohibited in this country, it will "kill" the market for hardware wallets. It’s even possible that the sale of these HW-devices could be banned (there was a period a few years back when the import of HW-devices into the country was prohibited, and it was impossible to purchase them from the official manufacturer with delivery).

Or, conversely, it might boost illegal sales (possibly involving counterfeit devices with implants). In any case, a "time of change" is a prime opportunity to make money. The question is, who will do it?



13. Post 67251453 (unedited backup) (by dwyane36) (scraped on Sun Oct 18 08:00:43 CEST 2026) in Russia to ban peer-to-peer crypto trades: What does it mean for traders?:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 05:04:22 AM
If true, I find this amusing. I don't know if this is intentional or a misstep on their part. If the objective of the updated guidelines is to make sure transactions are closely monitored and properly taxed, among others, with this implied permission to self-custody, aren't they in effect providing people some leeway to stay under the radar? I mean, as opposed to explicitly prohibiting self-custody.

I've also read somewhere else that it's not actually a one-way street when it comes to self-custodial funds. "The restrictions are set out in Federal Law No. 282-FZ and cover both deposits and withdrawals involving the non-custodial system".[1] So, with the prohibition of on-ramp and off-ramp transactions involving private wallets, together with the implied permission to self-custody, many are condemned to stay under the radar forever and would probably just deal directly with each other.

[1] https://www.tradingview.com/news/cryptobriefing:133a01c40094b:0-bank-of-russia-to-ban-retail-crypto-transfers-to-non-custodial-wallets/

What the regulators have come up with looks like another attempt to fully control people's finances and, of course, find a new source of tax revenue. The provision banning transfers to one's own non-custodial wallets implies that if a user buys crypto through an exchange listed in the Central Bank's registry, they won't be able to transfer it to an external network outside the regime's control. Such transactions will be rejected immediately. For ordinary crypto users, this means, first and foremost, that transfers from cryptocurrency, which Russian regulators cannot control, to fiat (rubles) and back will be more difficult.
As for the P2P ban, I think it will lead to the emergence of a domestic black market for cash-based P2P transactions.



14. Post 67251354 (unedited backup) (by SeriouslyGiveaway) (scraped on Sun Oct 18 06:00:31 CEST 2026) in We should not rely on centralized privacy providers:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 03:46:34 AM
But isn't this the way things normally work right now? Your wallet may be self-custodial but the keys aren't of your own making. They're generated for you--by your wallet's software, with the help of your OS, or by a firmware. Could it be possible that someone else might gain awareness of it? The Coldcard incident tells us the answer is yes.
If a wallet is close source, it's hard to know and be sure that you are the only entity that own private keys of that wallet.
Even the wallet is source available or open source, if it is a bad wallet and fails to create wallets with enough bits of entropy, wallets you created by it will be only weak and insecure wallets that can be compromised by hackers.

Coldcard incident is a good example of how a wallet with weak entropy can be exploited.



15. Post 67251137 (unedited backup) (by Sanitough) (scraped on Sun Oct 18 01:19:25 CEST 2026) in We should not rely on centralized privacy providers:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 03:12:29 AM
The real advantage of self custody is the fact that you don’t really have to depend on any third party before you can access your bitcoin. However that freedom comes with its own responsibility too, because it means that as your own bank, losing your seed phrases or failing to properly store them would mean doom for you and there won’t be anyone to reverse such damage. And this is exactly the reason why privacy alone isn’t enough, it’s also crucial to know how to properly store your keys and understand the potential risks and implications of losing them, at least that helps one know the worth of what they’re actually guarding.

That's why one has to first be aware of the responsibilities self-custody implies, and whether or not he/she can actually handle all of them well. If not, the market has other options.

Given the recent controversies about hardware wallets, however, what's controversial is the self in self-custody. How much in self-custody is actually within the self? Not your keys, not your coins. But if your keys are generated for you by somebody else, are they strictly your keys or they also belong to somebody else? If your self-custodial wallet is assembled for you by somebody else, can you guarantee that it's self-custodial? Or somebody else could also have custody over it?
That is no longer how self-custody works because you trust someone for your own keys, so you don't really own the keys alone, someone is also aware of it. With that, there's high chances that privacy will be ruined any time and that self-custody will turn into other custody instead.

Know the real advantages of self-custody first and learn how to manage all its responsibilities. If you think you can't do it, better not continue risking yourself, your funds and your own privacy.



16. Post 67250434 (unedited backup) (by d5000) (scraped on Sat Oct 17 21:03:31 CEST 2026) in Russia to ban peer-to-peer crypto trades: What does it mean for traders?:

Russian government is one of the most authoritarian ones in the world and one of the most hostile to cryptocurrencies. They have already banned using crypto for payments for goods and services (which is already an atrocity) so this is not really surprising.

Basically the new law restricts "real" usage of crypto (besides speculation) to the political elite. They can order the exchange platforms to ignore their own transactions to evade sanctions, while individuals will always have to put their pants off ...

And no, MiCa isn't even close to this and doesn't even affect P2P in any way, thanks @Don Pedro Dinero and @stompix to clarify that.

Note that @Darker45 and @pooya87 are correct imo: Self-custody isn't technically banned in that Russian regulation. But afaik interpreting the articles correctly it would only be possible to obtain self-custodied BTC through mining / cloud mining or buying before mid-2027. I wonder if something like reselling server space for BTC in a P2P way (to foreigners, as Russians aren't allowed to pay for that with BTC ...) would be still possible (or use a proof-of-capacity altcoin? but then you can't trade it for BTC legally ...).

I wonder if Russia has an exception for "private non commercial trades", a lot of countries do have that and you can barter or trade most goods (excluding stuff like weapons or illegal drugs) without the State's intervention. If that exists, it would open a "hole" for cash-to-BTC trades between friends or neighbors. They could also try perhaps to buy non-custodial BTC when abroad.



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18. Post 67248350 (unedited backup) (by pooya87) (scraped on Sat Oct 17 06:19:02 CEST 2026) in Russia to ban peer-to-peer crypto trades: What does it mean for traders?:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 01:46:46 AM
Although a bigger issue with the new regulation here is the ban on self-custody! The Central Bank of Russia is actually saying that you are not allowed to transfer your own bitcoins from your centralized custodial account to a non-custodial wallet where you control the keys!

I'm not sure if the poorly-paid content writer of Crypto News has actually read and understood the pronouncements of the Bank of Russia, but it also says:

Quote
However, the guidance does not expressly state that simply possessing an existing hardware or software wallet is prohibited. It addresses specific transfers and transactions, leaving a distinction between holding cryptocurrency independently and moving assets out of regulated accounts.

So, Russians can still self-custody if they do it prior to the implementation of the new policy? Does it mean moving assets from regulated accounts into self-custody isn't allowed but not vice versa?
That seems to be the case. I used AI to translate and analyze the actual announcement released by the actual Central Bank of Russia here (https://www.cbr.ru/develop/cryptocurrency/) and it seems to have no mention of banning self-custody itself but only when people want to transfer the funds they had on a centralized exchange out of it to self-custody.



19. Post 67244715 (unedited backup) (by Dogedegen) (scraped on Fri Oct 16 01:05:38 CEST 2026) in Reports about wallet-draining by Ledger users. Total losses $86M+:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 02:32:49 AM
Unlike Coldcard, Ledger's days are also numbered. I can see them going down. If this hack had happened in the EU or the US, the consequences for Ledger would have been a lot bigger than they are now.
I really doubt that, you maybe do not read other platforms so much. Coldcard had a bad reputation even before the hack in many places except small elite circles, and Ledger is on a good reputation even more in shitcoin circles despite everything that they have done wrong so far..

Maybe for many of us here who have closely followed Ledger's blunders, the leaks and recovery subscription and all, Ledger seems going down. Somewhere else, however, it may be different. On the contrary, there are still many who defend it. We've recently heard CZ's take, for example.

In all fairness, strictly speaking, Ledger itself hasn't been compromised. Ledger's data leaks were like Trezor's data leaks. The vulnerabilities weren't their own but their third-party service providers'. Borrowing Jameson Lopp's word, these are "a bunch of edge case attacks".

In the latest scandal, what's involved is the supply chain, authorized resellers. This is far different from the case of Coldcard. The Coldcard problem was right inside the code, within the system itself, the firmware, the seed generation, the randomness. Ledger's was merely external infrastructure.

If what happened to Coldcard happens to Ledger, that's probably the time we'd see the brand going down. Fast. Coldcard had a small body of users. Despite that, the stolen amount surpassed $100 million. If it were Ledger, it could have easily been in the billions.
Don't make many assumptions, a lot of these people are aware of the blunders or the issues that happened. I very rarely find people that are actually into crypto that do not know the latest news unless they are very passive holders or old people. When this ledger situation broke I saw it in all the groups that I watch on telegram but also on other platforms. It is more that people don't care or that they have other reasons not to care about that. Ledger is involved in many blockchains, companies, projects in different ways and their continued spending of a lot of money continued to defend their brand. As you see in your example with CZ, he's defending it because there are many business relationships in the background. Not every partnership or cooperation must be exposed publicly. Unfortunately that is the world that we live in.



20. Post 67242549 (unedited backup) (by tech30338) (scraped on Thu Oct 15 14:17:07 CEST 2026) in Ledger is one of the most secure hardware wallets after recent hack said CZ :

Quote from: Darker45 on October 11, 2026, 01:09:23 AM
In all fairness, what happened wasn't strictly a Ledger wallet hack. Ledger's system wasn't compromised at all. The attack was directed at specific devices coming from a third-party reseller--authorized reseller, if I may emphasize. So, in a way, CZ was right.

I'm not defending Ledger, of course. On the contrary, I won't recommend it. Moreover, it should be held fully liable for what had happened. The company vouched for and endorsed its authorized resellers. People trusted Ledger on that. In the end, they lost their funds.
The Wallet might been tampered recently because and the affected one are in southeast asia, those who bought within the 90 days period needs to transfer the funds to a safer wallet at the moment so that it will be secure while they are investigating the issue, they also reach out to the reseller to halt selling the said hardware wallet, it could be that someone tampered it then the reseller did not know that it was tampered, but as a reseller he should have make sure the devices were sealed and did not been open, also see a post in twitter saying that the wallet has some kind of a e-sim inside.



21. Post 67241730 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Thu Oct 15 08:51:08 CEST 2026) in Reports about wallet-draining by Ledger users. Total losses $86M+:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 02:32:49 AM
If what happened to Coldcard happens to Ledger, that's probably the time we'd see the brand going down. Fast. Coldcard had a small body of users. Despite that, the stolen amount surpassed $100 million. If it were Ledger, it could have easily been in the billions.

In the case of the tampered Ledger cards, the values ​​are not far from those of the Coldcard hack.

But I believe this case didn't get worse only because the criminals probably shut down the servers where they were receiving the information, to avoid being caught.



22. Post 67241473 (unedited backup) (by LogitechMouse) (scraped on Thu Oct 15 05:31:08 CEST 2026) in Gamdom hacked for a 3M$:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 01:28:28 AM
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The year is still far from its end. There are still 2 and a half months left before 2026 finally closes. And with how easier it seems to have become for hackers to scan vulnerabilities and loopholes in casino systems with the help of new technologies, there could still be more.

It seems casinos are now the low-hanging fruits for these criminals. Most exchanges must have a lot more solid security. They're for advanced thieves. For the less advanced ones, relatively smaller casinos might be better targets.

This is another warning call for them to keep up. Hackers are catching up fast.
First it's those DeFi platforms.
Then it's those centralized exchanges.
Now it's the online casinos.

Nobody's safe especially now that the hackers are becoming better and better, the security of ALL of the platforms must become better as well. I don't think that the year will end with only 2 casinos getting hacked. I have this gut feeling that we might see more. I will not specify which ones, but I have some in my mind already. We can't also forget that AI is becoming better and better now, and we can't deny the fact that these hackers are using AI to do these kind of things in a more efficient and better way.

I think I've said it in the past already, but hiring a group of white-hat hackers that will try and test their security is their best option. Pay them the money that they want to get because the amount of money that might lost in hacking will be much more than the payment to these hackers.



23. Post 67239113 (unedited backup) (by Taskford) (scraped on Wed Oct 14 13:43:19 CEST 2026) in Crypto-scout.io Exchange Monitor:

Quote from: Darker45 on October 08, 2026, 05:29:52 AM
You've listed quite a number. Are you sure you've "carefully vet every exchanger before adding it"? In the first place, does each one of them have a business registration? Also, are they all Russian exchanges or at least ones that are offering services mainly to Russian-speaking jurisdictions?

I've quickly went over the list, one calls themselves Spaceex. That kind of branding is tricky. I wonder if a serious or legitimate exchange would use such a familiar name.

And then there's Sova and Metka, 2 of the 9 Russian exchanges involved in a data leak which compromised complete names of users, emails, IP addresses, credit card numbers, among others.

I wonder if you're serious in only admitting exchanges with "no negative reviews or unresolved conflicts".

So that means many of exchange listed in their site, had a record of compromising their users. Also majority of exchange in their list is not known, with that I'm afraid to use it and will just go to active exchange which posted their threads here.

Since with that we can clearly verify if they are still doing good or not.

Hard to trust OP list, unless he clearly explain on how he verify those listings.



24. Post 67237844 (unedited backup) (by Dogedegen) (scraped on Wed Oct 14 00:41:01 CEST 2026) in Reports about wallet-draining by Ledger users. Total losses $86M+:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 04:32:41 AM
Then let them bypass it, too. Give them 5 obstacles to bypass. 5 is better than 1.

You want to open the device, fake the holographic sticker first. Then fake the box, too. Fake the sticker on the device as well.

There's nothing wrong with putting several layers of security measures for buyers to readily check. A holographic sticker that looked somehow different could have saved one from losing all his/her lifesavings. With Ledger's misplaced confidence, customers are left with nothing to check, either for legitimacy or integrity or whatever. Nobody checks unmarked plastic wrappers seriously. They could be perfectly faked even with a sidewalk vendor.

"Engineered to be tamper-proof" my foot! A can of sardines or a jar of sandwich spread seems more protected.

I've bought 3 hardware wallets so far. It's Ledger that overconfidently offers almost zero packaging protection.
Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with you. I was merely thinking that there is no way that this can be fully prevented at all, at least not that I know of from a hardware perspective. They can only make it harder by including different things, from the hardware validation which seem to have failed in this case, to the stickers that were mentioned, to some supply chain validation and that. The more things are added the better, and I don't think these things add that much cost on a scale. Definitely those stickers are pretty cheap, so that part of the weak protection can be blamed on Ledger.

Quote from: taufik123 on Today at 08:01:15 AM
As a person who works in the field of printing design, it is easy for me to make anti-tampering stickers like this because it can be Custom or made like the original stickers made.

But some Original VOID stickers with Holograms and special codes may be a marker, but some other supporting methods are needed for higher security such as cryptographic verification of devices,
protecting devices from the Design to Distribution stage, because the device distribution chain also needs to be strictly audited.

And the Licensee as a Distributor or Reseller also needs to be strictly audited if the company is acquired by someone else,
but there is no official report from Ledger about further audit on the Cryptobilis Acquisition Process.

I would not expect a company of this scale to use basic anti-tampering stickers if they were going to add them, but they should do something more after this case.

Quote from: nikola22 on Today at 09:30:58 PM
meanwhile, Trezor is reducing the number of resellers as a preventive measure:


https://x.com/Trezor/status/2110000774314873020

it seems to me that reducing the number of resellers isn't a comprehensive enough measure to secure the supply chain. ideally, there should be a single production location for hardware wallets where everything can be monitored more rigorously. Ledger, for instance, manufactures different models in several countries. this guy (https://x.com/Cyphertux/status/2109695312050765966) managed to find information regarding place of production of Ledger devices:

Nano X - France
Nano S Plus black - Hungary
Stax - Vietnam
Flex - Vietnam
Nano Gen5 - Vietnam


it is hardly surprising that there has been no clear response from Ledger so far, given the scattered production locations and the additional factor of suppliers for individual components.
It is not enough but every step helps.