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1. Post 67284714 (unedited backup) (by Juse14) (scraped on Wed Oct 28 05:26:56 CET 2026) in Before you use them be sure they do not contradict the Bitcoin principles :

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 03:39:58 AM
In the same manner when you remind us to "be extremely careful" with KYC and custodial services. It's not about whether the service can be trusted or not; it's about trusting the service. Trust itself is the fundamental issue, not whether what you're trusting with private information, money, or anything is actually trustworthy or not. 
We fully trust the service, the problem is that they cannot keep our data, such as compromised third parties or data exposed by irresponsible people, the custodian service should keep our documents but they do not know when this will happen.

In my opinion, trust them it should be, honestly because it's one of the ones in use today, and we still use the service, right? So about contrary to the principles of bitcoin sometimes this thing they never pay attention to.



2. Post 67283731 (unedited backup) (by BABY SHOES) (scraped on Tue Oct 27 20:58:25 CET 2026) in Bitget Hack - Stolen amount 170 milion dollars:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 12:17:26 PM
Sadly, you're correct. If we consider third-party breaches as direct attacks on the hardware wallet brand or company itself, the list would be long. In a span of just 3 months, Trezor, Ledger, Coldcard, Keystone, Safepal, BitBox, Tangem, and Foundation fell victim to various attacks.

Although these attacks don't necessarily mean user funds are compromised, leaked personal details could actually lead to it, or even worse.

Which leads us to ask, time to change what exactly?
Attacks become massive what needs to be fixed from them? For me there has to be a new way to protect customer privacy data and most of it is stored in those third parties that are becoming vulnerable now... I don't know what to say, but with a complete data leak it's a big loss.

I have no idea what really needs to change, companies now have to think harder to innovate, see other examples because they have been victims, other brands can now be targeted.



3. Post 67283364 (unedited backup) (by Hatchy) (scraped on Tue Oct 27 19:20:49 CET 2026) in KYC in GamingFi: How market actually handles verification in 2026:

Quote from: Darker45 on October 24, 2026, 01:21:14 AM
3. What I hate the most are casinos that allow players to sign up, make deposits, play, and lose, but does the screening by way of KYC once withdrawal is requested.
It has become a business tactic for many casinos. I don't want to say all of them, but I believe more than 80% of the casinos we have today will eventually ask you to complete KYC at some point. They use it as an excuse to justify why they are unwilling to pay out your winnings. Casinos often claim to be fair, but when it comes to paying players, most of them suddenly become hostile. They start asking for documents that could put your personal information at risk.

I don't like going through KYC, but with the way the world is becoming, many online services now require it. If you are going to ask me to complete KYC in the future, then there is no need to hide that requirement from the beginning. Just be honest about it.



4. Post 67282807 (unedited backup) (by bhadz) (scraped on Tue Oct 27 16:57:55 CET 2026) in What Happens to Your Bitcoin Knowledge When You Lose Access to the Internet?:

Quote from: Darker45 on October 26, 2026, 12:20:01 PM
I suppose your Bitcoin knowledge stays. I'm sure they aren't stored online. Cheesy
LOL, that's what I thought at first of what he's pointing out.  Grin

Quote from: sportbitcoin on October 26, 2026, 07:27:38 AM
But it is also essential to know the methods of wallet recovery and checking transaction status. Did you ever think about what you'd do if the internet went down for a long time?
I won't worry about this because I'll let the experts fix the internet, that's the ISPs' job. And if there's no internet at that time, all of the businesses globally will be hit by that and a crisis will be declared. In short, if we have no access to those things that might be a forceful stop and allowing us to take a rest. Looking away from charts, wallets and explorers.



5. Post 67281986 (unedited backup) (by GGGary33) (scraped on Tue Oct 27 13:20:55 CET 2026) in Bitget Hack - Stolen amount 170 milion dollars:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 12:17:26 PM
Which leads us to ask, time to change what exactly?

Prior to hardware wallets, how is everyone saving their Bitcoin then?

If we could answer that, they perhaps we can go back and traditional so really take control of everything?

I know that everything has single point-of-failure, but at least we can still minimize as relying to 3rd parties today.



6. Post 67281916 (unedited backup) (by Filicius) (scraped on Tue Oct 27 13:07:38 CET 2026) in What Happens to Your Bitcoin Knowledge When You Lose Access to the Internet?:

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on October 26, 2026, 12:58:36 PM
I suppose your Bitcoin knowledge stays. I'm sure they aren't stored online. Cheesy

If the internet is gone for a long time and not only in your locality, region, or country but the entire world, your Bitcoin wouldn't be at the top of your worries. The world would collapse to a great extent.

The entire civilization right now is largely built on the internet. Have you experienced when a certain bank goes offline for hours? Or when a city office loses internet for just a while? It's chaotic. Imagine if that happens to everything everywhere. Society would go crazy. And you'd forget about your Bitcoin.

That's right, and I think we've already discussed this once. If there is a global shutdown, then OP, you will be worried about other problems. But even though there have been cases in history where the government has intentionally turned off the Internet for the safety of their country, people have been patient, and then everything has been restored. There are a lot of wars going on in the world right now, and unfortunately, people have to live without the Internet from time to time, but we can at least try to change our lives by changing our place of residence, although of course this is a very difficult step.

Without having to go so far and without imagining a day of reckoning, I believe that it is necessary to take measures not only for occasional Internet blackouts, but also for electricity. A year ago the electricity went out for a whole day in Spain and there was practically panic, thank goodness that the electricity supply was restored to normal after a few hours.

both for those cases, in which transferring Bitcoins would be impossible, and for some other occasion in which the payment terminals have stopped working, the recommendation would be to have your money diversified and with cash alternatives always at hand. Even if it's residual, you never know when the system is going to stop working and you're going to have to make an urgent purchase.



7. Post 67278606 (unedited backup) (by Sandra_hakeem) (scraped on Mon Oct 26 14:46:26 CET 2026) in What Happens to Your Bitcoin Knowledge When You Lose Access to the Internet?:

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on Today at 01:15:57 PM
Moreover, there are still alternative ways to send and receive Bitcoin if your cellular network was out. It's some kind of intermediary gateway and most of them support SMS and USSD. They basically just use the LN integration to broadcast your transactions for you.
How can you send and receive SMS and even proceed with USSD when there no cellular network on your mobile? Assuming your phone has cellular network outage including everyone else's phone in that region, what intermediary gateway can help you send a normal SMS?  Meanwhile your phone needs a way to connect to the messaging service.
You're correct. It's impossible to proceed with any USSD or SMS when there's a complete outage. The carrier depends on the network for that purpose, but the topic says something very different: OP was referring to "Internet outage", not cellular network outage. I don't even know where you got that from?

This was the question:
Quote from: sportbitcoin on Today at 07:27:38 AM
Did you ever think about what you'd do if the internet went down for a long time?

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 12:20:01 PM
I suppose your Bitcoin knowledge stays. I'm sure they aren't stored online. Cheesy
The topic got me lmao too  Grin
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If the internet is gone for a long time and not only in your locality, region, or country but the entire world, your Bitcoin wouldn't be at the top of your worries. The world would collapse to a great extent.
I'm trying to imagine the level of panic if that happened globally all at once? Phone lines would max their broadbands due to calls from here and there.



8. Post 67278422 (unedited backup) (by lovesmayfamilis) (scraped on Mon Oct 26 13:58:37 CET 2026) in What Happens to Your Bitcoin Knowledge When You Lose Access to the Internet?:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 12:20:01 PM
I suppose your Bitcoin knowledge stays. I'm sure they aren't stored online. Cheesy

If the internet is gone for a long time and not only in your locality, region, or country but the entire world, your Bitcoin wouldn't be at the top of your worries. The world would collapse to a great extent.

The entire civilization right now is largely built on the internet. Have you experienced when a certain bank goes offline for hours? Or when a city office loses internet for just a while? It's chaotic. Imagine if that happens to everything everywhere. Society would go crazy. And you'd forget about your Bitcoin.

That's right, and I think we've already discussed this once. If there is a global shutdown, then OP, you will be worried about other problems. But even though there have been cases in history where the government has intentionally turned off the Internet for the safety of their country, people have been patient, and then everything has been restored. There are a lot of wars going on in the world right now, and unfortunately, people have to live without the Internet from time to time, but we can at least try to change our lives by changing our place of residence, although of course this is a very difficult step.



9. Post 67278393 (unedited backup) (by arwin100) (scraped on Mon Oct 26 13:51:13 CET 2026) in What Happens to Your Bitcoin Knowledge When You Lose Access to the Internet?:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 12:20:01 PM
I suppose your Bitcoin knowledge stays. I'm sure they aren't stored online. Cheesy

If the internet is gone for a long time and not only in your locality, region, or country but the entire world, your Bitcoin wouldn't be at the top of your worries. The world would collapse to a great extent.

The entire civilization right now is largely built on the internet. Have you experienced when a certain bank goes offline for hours? Or when a city office loses internet for just a while? It's chaotic. Imagine if that happens to everything everywhere. Society would go crazy. And you'd forget about your Bitcoin.

Maybe he didn't intentionally mean the knowledge.  Cheesy Because actually no one can take that and also internet disruption won't probably wipe out the knowledge of people about Bitcoin.

Also there's nothing to worry about if there's power outage, since as long as  the wallet they have used is reliable. For sure it will stay there, then they can also retrieve it back once internet is back in their locality.

If he want to transact offline, maybe he should search some information like this https://blog.upay.com/cryptocurrency-offline-transactions to learn on how to do it.



10. Post 67278157 (unedited backup) (by salad daging) (scraped on Mon Oct 26 12:26:13 CET 2026) in KYC in GamingFi: How market actually handles verification in 2026:

Quote from: Kavelj22 on October 23, 2026, 07:52:07 PM
If the casino is regulated, it will be obligated to ask the identity of its user the license issuers require this as fundamental for the casino to obtain the license. It is a lie made by many new lunched casinos who pretend to be nokyc casino but at the same time have activity license. Usually they use it as a trick to attract the maximum number of users, then later just update the TOS and start ask for KYC verification.
The average casino has a ToS "can request documents at any time" it's just that this is not often discussed by the casino itself, but rather they only market that this casino is not KYC on the grounds as long as the player is not suspected of his account by them, although this is in feel yourself.

Quote from: Darker45 on October 24, 2026, 01:21:14 AM
3. What I hate the most are casinos that allow players to sign up, make deposits, play, and lose, but does the screening by way of KYC once withdrawal is requested.
Seems unfair, doesn't it? The casino will accept the deposit of some amount without any problems even if the account is problematic, but about the withdrawal of large amounts say is above $1000 they will filter out a little error in the player's activities funds can be immediately detained and asked for KYC.



11. Post 67278040 (unedited backup) (by arwin100) (scraped on Mon Oct 26 11:32:01 CET 2026) in [BOXING] Ryan Garcia Vs. Floyd Mayweather :

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 10:20:54 AM
Ryan Garcia is just 28 years old while Floyd Mayweather Jr. Is 49 years old. I do not think Floyd Mayweather Jr. need to accept this fight and I think he supposed to have even retired from boxing.

But he has indeed finally retired from boxing for good in 2017. That's almost 10 years ago.

Whether he needs to accept this fight or not will probably be answered by how badly he needs money. I believe Mayweather isn't in good shape right now, at least as far as his finances are concerned. He probably needs to fight, although he might not resort to one if it's a professional match. I'm sure he's more concerned of his unblemished record than making a bigger paycheck. That's his only legacy left, if that's worth calling it that. He's probably looking for an exhibition fight, and only against someone he can surely win against. And that's not Ryan Garcia.

If he's badly in need of money, I think that he would accept all those fights linked to him. But he decline and that means, he don't care about the money for now and he just want to enjoy his life.

Although his empire is slowly shrinking but Mayweather is not broke yet, so most probably he will decline this fight. Because Mayweather is avoiding risky opponents.

Also look at his past fights after he retires, he only pick those exhibition and decline those professional sanctions match.



12. Post 67276974 (unedited backup) (by hafiztalha) (scraped on Mon Oct 26 00:06:07 CET 2026) in Bitcoin Is Decentralised, but Who Controls It After Confiscation?:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 03:35:41 AM
This seems mixed up, kind of misleading.

The decentralization of Bitcoin doesn't have anything to do with the ownership and control of coins. Bitcoin, the system, is run without a central authority or server or headquarter. Bitcoin, the coin, is fully owned and controlled by whoever holds the key. Confiscation of the latter, of the currency, doesn't give any power or authority over a decentralized system. What's under full control are only the coins.

For me, seized coins that are gained from fraudulent means should be fully returned to their rightful owners, the victims.
People always messed up things just because of these imaginary theories about Bitcoin having enough negativity, which did not stop him from pursuing him in the long term. He always needs to understand it's just a currency or unit of exchange, nothing else. People faced too many problems during the use of fiat, but they never gave any accusation because it's just a tool or currency that is used and then faced consequences. The same applies to Bitcoin.

It's never given anything extra to anyone because giving back bitcoins to victims has never been easy because few things always work against this. People using exchanges or other platforms are never able to provide proof of their funds easily, and it's better to give back money to victims because they are facing problems in case they have nothing back.



13. Post 67276935 (unedited backup) (by Maslate) (scraped on Sun Oct 25 23:52:43 CET 2026) in "Overcharging" the rich to offer subsidy to the poor and needy, How moral? :

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 02:24:47 AM
I have no issue when businesses help the poor. Perhaps most of us have this sense of responsibility to the disadvantaged. I also have no issue when expensive businesses are listing their goods and services at exorbitant prices simply because their niche is the ultra-rich. I don't care if they're fooling each other.

But I think I'd take offense when the same thing is offered at different prices to customers depending on their economic status. That doesn't seem fair. Just put a uniform price tag on your product or service for everybody and sell it regardless of their standing.
Or much better, separate the items, this lane is for rich buyers, while the other lane intended for the unfortunate ones. That way, rich buyers will no longer be confused that you are offering higher prices for them with the same, exact item.

And for your business not to be abused, ask for ID's for those really poor ones, because there is high chances that even the rich, unknown people will also hide their real identity and pretend to be poor so they can avail the lesser prices on your store.



14. Post 67276055 (unedited backup) (by Hispo) (scraped on Sun Oct 25 19:25:13 CET 2026) in A crypto pyramid scheme for casino games in Connecticut.:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 01:56:38 AM
For me, it is just a matter of basic common sense.

I certainly agree. But, of course, we all know common sense isn't that common, especially when it comes to money and investment. People wouldn't mind being blindsided as to how their investments are actually rolled for as long as the returns keep coming. I'd even go as far as to guess the victims wouldn't even take it as a problem even if they're informed that their investments are actually used for gambling. Who'd care when the payout is on time? Until it suddenly stops.

I would go even further: there are people who know their money is not being actually invested and it is being used to perpetuate a scam, but they don't care as long as they manage to get their money out on time, before the whole scam falls under its own weight.

That is also common here in Latin America, we have many people who purposely participate in Ponzis and pyramid schemes for the sake of getting enough money before everything goes south, rinse and repeat and they believe they can become millionaire by timing the fall of scams.

It is sad if you think about it, depend on scams in order to make money.



15. Post 67274611 (unedited backup) (by Fortify) (scraped on Sun Oct 25 10:06:43 CET 2026) in "Overcharging" the rich to offer subsidy to the poor and needy, How moral? :

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 02:24:47 AM
I have no issue when businesses help the poor. Perhaps most of us have this sense of responsibility to the disadvantaged. I also have no issue when expensive businesses are listing their goods and services at exorbitant prices simply because their niche is the ultra-rich. I don't care if they're fooling each other.

But I think I'd take offense when the same thing is offered at different prices to customers depending on their economic status. That doesn't seem fair. Just put a uniform price tag on your product or service for everybody and sell it regardless of their standing.

A business to help the poor is called a charity. You could argue that a business should seek to optimize the amount of money that it gets from each customer, but that is the most savage form of capitalism and would not even work in your favor as you accrued more wealth. Let's take a supermarket for example, they already cater to different price bands - they often have a "value" offering which is a cheaper but similar quality product to a middle or higher end tier of product. That is the correct way to approach things, clearly defined and letting the customer choose - rather than a manipulative sales person making up a price on the spot. This approach is not fair and it is definitely true it happens in much poorer countries, which stay poor because of reasons like this, it just makes day to day life even harder than it needs to be.



16. Post 67274433 (unedited backup) (by Questat) (scraped on Sun Oct 25 08:49:19 CET 2026) in Bitcoin Is Decentralised, but Who Controls It After Confiscation?:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 03:35:41 AM

For me, seized coins that are gained from fraudulent means should be fully returned to their rightful owners, the victims.

We have the same sentiment here, but in this case it's the greediness of the government that is prevailing. the debate now is over who will own the seized bitcoin, China where the crime was originally committed, or the UK where the bitcoin was seized, and the UK's claim is that the scammers used it for money laundering which under their law gives them the right to claim it.  Smiley



17. Post 67274431 (unedited backup) (by tech30338) (scraped on Sun Oct 25 08:47:55 CET 2026) in International Law Enforcement Operation Seeks to Disrupt Crypto Fraud:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 03:14:22 AM
It's hard to make something out of this announcement. It's made up of general statements. While there may be specifics they can't divulge as they might compromise operations, I don't think the alternative is to provide zero idea as to the how.

"Approval phishing scams are becoming increasingly sophisticated. Operation Atlantic is designed to protect the public by warning people early and helping them secure their assets".

As to the warning, people get it all the time. As to the help to secure assets, how exactly? Or at what price? Is it by surrendering whatever little privacy left? Should people register withdrawal addresses together with their personal information so that approvals to unregistered addresses mean nothing? People can only guess.
Correct that i just a announcement that they will do something but the problem is it wont pass through them it will go through your emails, social accounts, apps, which they have less control, the only thing they could do is post something like how to prevent from getting scam etc.,
As much as they want to the moment we have been victim, what they could do is record reports of something like a scam, unless they do a blocking thing which is to broad and scams are changing to evade the authority.



18. Post 67274080 (unedited backup) (by cryptoaddictchie) (scraped on Sun Oct 25 03:03:13 CET 2026) in A crypto pyramid scheme for casino games in Connecticut.:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 01:56:38 AM
I'd even go as far as to guess the victims wouldn't even take it as a problem even if they're informed that their investments are actually used for gambling. Who'd care when the payout is on time? Until it suddenly stops.
Thats basically true. If anyone that has a good cash flow from certain investment they dont mind anymore where those % coming from even its illegal or unhonest or informed way. Nevertheless their gonna concern whether its from casino gambling or whatever what not it from as long as their given some paycheck is good enough to be blindsided by these pyramid scheme.



19. Post 67271229 (unedited backup) (by Cointxz) (scraped on Sat Oct 24 08:55:55 CEST 2026) in 2026 Roobet Philippines Open Pool Championship:

Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on Today at 06:18:36 AM
I’m not familiar anymore with who’s the top player on PH right now. It will be helpful if you can make a power list on current PH players as a guide to back them on my bet instead of relying alone on odds offered by sportsbook.

Only JB Sucal is the only player I knew due to his social media exposure which I doubt he will be on this tournament due to his young age.  Grin

I might place some bets to Efren as support. Nice thread to bring back pool greatness discussion in the forum.

Do not bet for JB Sucal in pro tournament, this young guy became popular in billiards becuase of his age and play around Phillipines for money bet but his attitude and the way he play is far from being a PRO and he always ask for "partida" which is not allowed in PRO. AJ Manas is the yound prodigy of Philippines and that PRODIGY is not from me or in PH it is world title for him.


BTW, today this  Open Pool will end, The venue is in Gateway Mall Cubao.

I will definitely not bet for him on the pro scene. He always checks due to his lack of patience with shot preparation. My algorithm on Facebook just keeps showing together with Shane Acebar probably due to their popularity.

@Darker45 thanks bro for the quick recap. Where do you guys watch the match?

As a 30s already, it’s very hard for me to catch up interesting tournament aside from NBA.  Cheesy




20. Post 67271000 (unedited backup) (by OcTradism) (scraped on Sat Oct 24 05:47:43 CEST 2026) in Banks Are Starting to Accept Bitcoin as Collateral. Is This a Good Thing?:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 03:35:42 AM
Same here. I presume many especially the younger generation don't need the banks' affirmation for them to see the value in Bitcoin. But I also don't take any offense at the older generation's sort of befuddlement about how a complete nobody's strange invention became so valuable.

Perhaps it's where they're coming from. For these people, it's probably a big thing that the banks are offering loans with Bitcoin-backed collateral. For many of them, this might be the turning point. It might be a call for them to reconsider, to take a second look.

If they now embrace Bitcoin because of this, welcome. It's a good thing.
People who struggle most to realize value of Bitcoin is the middle-aged and the elderly especially the elderly. With people who are young, they are most adaptive in any nation, and in any era of human civilization history. It's basically how the young are from their physical body, mentality then mindset. They are young, ambitious, energetic, adaptive, and have a lot of time to fix mistakes. They are ready to learn, pay costs, and learn again until they find something great.

Fortunately with Bitcoin, it's not like costing them anything because if they choose Bitcoin for investment, they only have to spend money to buy bitcoin, and store their coins safely even in free open source non custodial wallets. No further cost for buying anything to store bitcoins, if they don't consider hardware wallets.

There is no cost of loss by mistake because Bitcoin investment is good, it's not a mistake.



21. Post 67270969 (unedited backup) (by coinrifft) (scraped on Sat Oct 24 05:13:32 CEST 2026) in 2026 Roobet Philippines Open Pool Championship:

Chua is the more familiar name as he is been touring billiard circuit for many years and he could be in the top 10 or top 15 in the world. But the 3 of them are could be playing underground or what @Darker45 said, money games as there are a lot of that kind of games here not televised but participated by known Filipino players.

So out of the 4 names, Chua I think will be the favorite to win the Philippines Open. One thing I don't like with Chua though is that he is somewhat arrogant as compare to Reyes or even Bustamante is that they are very humble even with they won a lot of tournaments in abroad.

Bustamante is the coach/mentor the Team Asia that recently lost to Team World.



22. Post 67270948 (unedited backup) (by shinratensei_) (scraped on Sat Oct 24 04:54:14 CEST 2026) in MEXC and Bitget end their services in Russia and Belarus.:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 01:53:34 AM
They're left with no choice. It's either they continue serving the Russians and lose the western market, which is apparently much juicier, or ditch the Russians and keep their nice spots under the sun. For revenue-driven entities, it's a no-brainer.

Overall, I think this is pure hegemony. Blanket approaches seem to me a sign of either laziness and incompetence or sheer bullying. It's obvious this is the game of geo-politics extending to what's otherwise just normal services for ordinary people all over the world.
Both MEXC and Bitget don't have registered US entity and they prohibit US users from registering, both also can't secure MiCA license which means they probably have low amount of EU customers, even if there is any. My guess is that, they actually aren't afraid losing western market neither, but they're afraid losing access to prominent stablecoins like USDT and USDC which could cripple their entire business.



23. Post 67264875 (unedited backup) (by Z-tight) (scraped on Thu Oct 22 15:02:43 CEST 2026) in Banks Are Starting to Accept Bitcoin as Collateral. Is This a Good Thing?:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 06:09:40 AM
In our society, banks hold so much power and, therefore, influence. When they say Bitcoin has value, it must have value. So, in a way, banks accepting Bitcoin is like a testimony that Bitcoin is already acceptable. While many of us don't really care, this may be a go-ahead signal to the rest.
I couldn't really care less about people who doubt that BTC has value, i mean, this is 2026 and not 2009. It should be obvious to anyone who can use a smart phone and can do the tiniest bit of research, that BTC has value and they'd not need a bank providing BTC-backed loans to reinforce that for them.
Quote from: Z_MBFM on Today at 09:48:07 AM
But when we can take a loan from the bank against Bitcoin collateral, this problem will be solved, which will further increase the interest and opportunities of Bitcoin holding.
This particular BTC-backed loan offer we're talking about in this topic is for corporate entities only.



24. Post 67263605 (unedited backup) (by sunsilk) (scraped on Thu Oct 22 08:39:01 CEST 2026) in Banks Are Starting to Accept Bitcoin as Collateral. Is This a Good Thing?:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 06:09:40 AM
So, in a way, banks accepting Bitcoin is like a testimony that Bitcoin is already acceptable. While many of us don't really care, this may be a go-ahead signal to the rest.
Yeah and I agree, this is a sign that the banks do see that bitcoin is now an acceptable asset that they can also profit with if someone only has bitcoin to collateral.

We might not choose this as an option if we ever in need of money as this gives up the whole custody of what we own to them.

But that's not the whole point of it, the main point is about them having the same service with bitcoin holders which they have probably laughed and denied several years ago.



25. Post 67261847 (unedited backup) (by Somegory) (scraped on Wed Oct 21 08:22:37 CEST 2026) in Spend your bitcoins, and you still get paid in Bitcoin:

Quote from: Darker45 on Today at 01:53:44 AM
Yes, you're right that businessmen "have no problem spending" BTC because they're also earning in BTC. That's true. But it's not as if they have much choice. The capital has to roll. You can't just hodl your earnings. Otherwise, your business would cease operating.

But the problem isn't the spending part. It's the volatility part. A couple of months ago, Bitcoin went as low as $62,000. Then September opened, Bitcoin bounced back to $82,000. A couple of weeks later, it corrected to $75,000. Another week passed and the price went as high as $87,000, only to go back to $80,000 3 weeks later.

This is bad for business. Perhaps you're correct as well that "there are people who really want to spend their bitcoins but no reliable marketplace". But which market thrives with such volatile currency?

It's not exactly bad for business, everyone business owners that wants to accept Bitcoin must have a strategy in mind for the Bitcoin.

1. They must understand the volatility part, if it's going to affect their business they can sell immediately they accept Bitcoin, don't ask why then they accept Bitcoin in the first place, a customer who's only option is to use Bitcoin to pay from a far away land is still a +1 customer.

2. Many businesses that accept Bitcoin don't just want to accept as payment but also turned their earnings into Bitcoin and hold for long term as far as their business keeps running, it's a extra reliability that their business can survive on better value of Bitcoin someday.

To me it's all about how familiar the business owner really is with Bitcoin..