I think that crypto is now become an hobby for many because just like you have time for other activities that is the same way that those who have  interest in crypto currency is now crypto currency especially Bitcoin has become a big business by many so creating time for it is no longer a problem because people now prioritize creating time for crypto currency because they have seen the value and importance of crypto currency in this contemporary life especially in the areas of changing their financial life

It's like a pretty woman falling for an ugly man's flattery, if a compromised site or software has an elegant enough UI or some basis that justifies the action without giving the user time to think about what they're doing,i.e, a call-to-action like: "your wallet has been compromised, do this or that to update your security, re-enter your recovery phrase here... etc".

At some point, if you trigger the user's fear and immediate action: users, especially the most inexperienced, tend to forget the basics, which is why it's extremely important that we continue to fight against phishing and make as many people who are just starting out aware of the need to take the necessary precautions.

This new type of attack is scary and really innovative on the part of crackers, I myself have come across a site with this type of request, and obviously I didn't paste the command, and the worst thing is that the compromised site automatically copies the code to clipboard's user.

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I've a question here, we know that Atomic macOS Stealer has as one of its functions to replace/tamper with a legitimate ledger live, and if there is the possibility of installing a compromised version of Ledger Live that installs a firmware compromised with Dark Skippy (which extracts the wallet's master seed secret slowly according to the number of signatures needed to complete the full extraction).

Ledger and other wallets like Trezor have firmware verification, where only firmwares signed by the manufacturers can be installed, right?

https://cointelegraph.com/learn/articles/dark-skippy-attack-how-to-protect-against-it

There is no harm from warnings, so there's no downside from it. Those who will fall victims will regardless of the warnings they receive, but someone who receives this type of mail and checks if it's legitimate will see a memo from the company saying they will never send physical mails and they'll be convinced it's a scam.

Data unfortunately is a big deal and many companies try to save up as much of it as they can.

bookmakers make the odds but they make these odds based on data

they also make their own prediction in a way since they also have no idea who will win but they set up the odds in a way that the house can still benefit no matter who wins. only the fans are extremely biased and can ignore previous matches and still continue to support that one team they all love so much

Sending to the same wallet address more than 2 times does not resemble a hack though. Such scheme is a normal day-to-day, and you'd be false flagging a ton of people this way which could lead to tons of bad rap as well.

Why not just base from known addresses connected to hacks?


Change what? or did you mean exchange/trade?

It's bad that these victims would put the blame to Ledger and not themselves. We can't also blame them for their mistakes but only themselves could do that realizing how gullible they were to become a victim of such scams.

I agree, the campaign that they do in making people remember to not share their seed phrases should be done repetitively in all channels that they have. I think that they do this on their subreddit. But it should also be done mostly on their social media accounts since people won't visit a lot the website and subreddit.

Thank you for your interest. Suspicious activity resembles a wallet hack. Unfortunately, wallets are hacked often. This is just a precaution. If your wallet is hacked and there is a block on the third transaction, then part of the funds will be returned to you.

Feel free to change with us. Everything that is written in the rules is a precaution. It is beneficial for us that users come and change. So that there are no blocks and bad mood.

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Good luck and easy deals to everyone!

There are at least two types of careless people in this case. Those that can afford to lose the money and dismiss it as not important, when it is important. Also those that get very upset at losing the money, which can trigger them to chase and try to recover it.


However, is there constantly a discrepancy between the odds and the probability of a team or player winning? After all, the odds are precisely the gauge of the player or the team's probabilities.

It's not like the odds don't reflect it. It's not like the odds suggest a team is most probably losing yet all analyses and opinions are saying it will most probably win.

The odds themselves are probabilities. They reflect analyses, statistics, strengths and weaknesses, and so on.
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Yes, but the odds can be wrong and they often are wrong. If odds were almost always right, you could get rich by following the odds all the time.

No one should expect to get a letter from Ledger in their mail box and anyone who does and falls for the scam may not be helped even with a warning. The scammers can also just invent a new way to reach out to potential victims.

Shouldn't there be a limitation on what information is required from users? If postal addresses are not needed, they should not be provided. Same with other personal information, to reduce the levels of exposure in cases of data breaches.

I became a victim of similar scam when I was a kid. I wanted to hack facebook account and there was a website like hack-facebook.com, it was like this and I thought it was the official facebook hack, then typed my login credentials and submitted. Consider that I was 11-12 years old kid and it was one of my first interaction with computer. When I look at elder people, like above 40, I see how unfamiliar they are with technology and how they believe everything they see on internet, so such people will easily fall into this scam, especially when the domain looks so original and legit.

Btw the strangest scam that I've ever seen was how a phishing website managed to get ranked above the official website in Google search engine and scammed thousands of customers of a crypto website.

How can you send mail via fake names? In my country, you need to provide an ID at the postal office to send a parcel and you also need to provide your ID when you receive a parcel from the postal office.

That is right that we do not trust everyone same amount. We have different levels of trust for different people. There are those rare friends we even trust with all our money. That shows very deep connection and belief in that person.
Your comparison of Bitcoin savings to piggy bank is perfect. It clearly shows that telling someone about normal amount of crypto is not big deal just like mentioning we have good amount saved up in regular bank account.
Online this kind of information can attract bad attention and scams or even physical dangers. It is good reminder that we should share some details with close friends it is smart to keep quiet about large amounts of money from people we do not know well.

Yeah, 'donations' in the same way as when one is 'volenteered' for doing some task.  A friend of mine 'donated' about $1k or so before he gave up on using vendors who used Chivo's payment platform service.  Or more accurately, went crawling back to Visa/Mastercard.

I don't want to piss in anyone's cheerios, but it's not hard to understand why uptake of Bitcoin remained low.  That said, more people are more aware and more interested in the concept of a deflationary currency and self-custody.  Things may be moving under the surface, and exposure to people who have done well with the asset class year after years is mostly a positive thing.  This is even more the case as legacy banks become less and less functional and performant due to the demands that they perform monetary surveillance and enforcement roles.


4) Maintain a certain opaque element as to exactly who owns what, how and where it came from, and how and to whom it might be distributed in the event of what set of events.  Allow people to decide the answers to these questions for themselves based on what makes them feel good, and gently 'nudge' them in a favorable direction by use of social media influences.  'People' would include IMF people, although they do have their hands on the spigot.  Supposedly.

As I'm interested how exactly El Salvador does this, I googled around a bit (AIs weren't helpful in this case).

I found this Spanish article which lists several ways the government can buy Bitcoin without using taxpayers' money, citing an X thread by "Bitcoin Beach":

1) Transaction fees and "donations" which could go to the Bitcoin Office. I guess they refer to fees in Chivo (the article unfortunately isn't that clear here, and the X thread also doesn't help, instead confusing me more - it mentions help by the US government ...).

2) Mining. The government could support private mining facilities in the country, which as a compensation would return Bitcoins to the Bukele government. Unfortunately the article is also not detailed here, but I guess this "support" could be done for example with tax exemptions.

3) Adquisitions by the private sector. This would be a similar "loop", e.g. the government "supporting" companies (e.g. via tax exemptions) and these companies also would transfer the coins to the government's or the Bitcoin Office's wallets.

You're right, Trump's announcement was two weeks ago during his visit to Saudi Arabia, but the decision was made only three days ago. It takes some time to actually start.

Thank you for your sympathy. You're right. There are also many financial services that Syria bans other than exchanges, such as PayPal, Visa, MasterCard, and other services essential for cross-border financial transactions. Of course, we need some time to lift the sanctions, but we are trying to form a team to pressure these services to begin lifting the sanctions.

Thank you. Yes, you're absolutely right. This will take some time. That's why we, the Syrians working in the cryptocurrency space, are trying to form a large team and make our voices heard by these major exchanges so they can begin implementing the decision to lift the ban.

In addition, I, for my part, have begun directly contacting the major exchanges via support or social media to draw their attention to President Trump's lifting of the ban, so there is no longer a reason for the ban.

How much of the world’s “hard money” (gold, Bitcoin) is still concentrated in the U.S.? Even when we talk about the fall of the dollar as the global backstop, it’s true that the U.S. isn’t just going to vanish from the stage. If anything, the resources for the next version of “safe haven” are already in their vaults (physical or digital)

However, does owning the most gold or Bitcoin automatically guarantee the same type of global influence that came with dollar dominance? I’m not so sure it translates one-for-one. With fiat, the U.S. set the rules for the entire global system. With gold or Bitcoin, maybe they have more, but everyone’s playing a slightly different game. Gold can’t be printed, and Bitcoin can’t be easily seized or sanctioned, at least in the way fiat assets can

Also, as you said, no one else comes close in terms of holdings, but these assets aren’t as tightly controlled as dollars in the traditional system. For example, if China, Russia, or even private citizens globally decide to “go their own way” with Bitcoin, it can’t be frozen or recalled by the U.S. Treasury. That introduces a real wildcard in terms of how much “control” even the biggest holder can exert


Fair point. No formula, just habits and what feels less risky at any given time. Even after the Great Depression, folks went with what made sense in their own circumstances, sometimes that meant gold under the mattress, sometimes it meant trusting a new kind of institution

Same as any hardware device, it doesn't last for many decades. What's important to it is its secret recovery phrase so you will just import that everytime you buy or change a hardware wallet to access the bitcoin again.

Keeping it is the most challenging part as your next generation need to know how important it is to not get lost and make it secure from unwanted persons that will try to get hold of your inherited bitcoin.

So we need to buy a new wallet each generation, so to speak?

I do hope the dip they experienced was awaited by them: and overall, the situation became better for them after they got their heads and hands on BTC.

More analysis is needed on that matter.

You never know with Ledger, there are so many potential failures related to them that any given leak case is suspect. It is certainly not a coincidence that such phishing scams happen under their name

As a potential risky event, I would not rule out the possibility that the kidnappers got something more than money here
On 21 January 2025, David Balland, co-founder of Ledger, and his wife are kidnapped from their home by an armed commando.

I don't think this is related to the data leak of ledger years ago.

The CEO of bitgo is a public figure. The attacker  could easily get his personal information from other places

As stated by @franky1, noise pollution laws is exist. Rather than creating specific laws, it's better to ask whether it's properly enforced or make petition to update noise pollution laws to be more strict.


FWIW, they've started mining on Dresden before Biden administration. https://greenidge.com/greenidge-generation-announces-groundbreaking-sale-of-first-bitcoin-hashpower-contract-aimed-at-us-institutional-investors/ leads to their official announcement on 2020.