Your accidental 80x never happened either, just like my "mistake" from a couple of years ago that caused a certain amount of bonus funzies based on my coincidentally being in the right place (a seemingly illiquid exchange) at the right time.


If you had not realized, bots are challenged when it comes to jokes.


If you had not noticed, in bitcoin, surprise price moves can happen to the upside or to the downside.


I am not suggesting that suicide is the right answer, yet sometimes the level of debt could be quite insurmountable, when folks are using leverage they get wiped out and then perhaps they even keep trying to bet it and they get wiped out several times... Guys here have probably gone through some version of loss and/or extreme loss, and maybe they could recognize if one or two other things would have had happened, they would have had been in even a worse situation.. so in that regard, sometimes there can be some paths forward.


In my very early years of bitcoin, there was one or two times, that I sold some bitcoin with the expectation of buying it back cheaper, and even though it should not be any kind of BIG deal, those were actually the most stressful times for me, so largely I stopped doing it.  I concluded that there is no reason to sell bitcoin with an expectation of buying back lower.

At the same time, there are folks who lean towards being able to sleep better in cash and others who sleep better in bitcoin.  Of course, there is a balance in regards to how much in bitcoin and how much in cash, and those who are newer to bitcoin might find it more challenging to get used to being able to sleep by having a certain amount of their value in bitcoin (and being able to "let it ride.").


Your description was better, though.


I think that various aspects of the degeneracy have been happening on the regular Binance, and not on BinanceUS.. even though they are connected, regular Binance has more products - and also over the years, there have been decent amounts of attacks on Binance - including that matters around the FTX fiascos were framed as if Binance had caused and/or contributed to those fiascos, and the story is far from clear in regards to the various overlaps. Many of us likely realize that since around the time of CZ's incarceration, there were agreements that would allow more US government (whether dark government of not) to place its tentacles within various aspects of the Binance apparatus .. so that Binance would not necessarily seem as much of a threat as some of the various decentralized exchanges that are currently in the space and suffered quite a bit in the October 10 crashening.

A couple of days ago Laura Shin interviewed a guy named Diogenes Casares, and he had a lot of decent insight regarding some of the craziness of the October 10 crashening.

Anyone who has control of vast amounts of crypto is going to be a target, even more so as the price creeps upwards and unless he did something particularly foolish with it - I wonder why he felt there was no reason to live. I know nothing about his circumstances or whether he was successful, but trading can be an extremely dangerous area so it's possible that he lost all his money. Anyone who can create a Binance account can call themselves a trader, so lets not act like it is some special skill to spend money on that activity, there will be very few people who are able to pull it off successfully and consistently. In this case there is no reason to think foul play was involved, unless someone can say that he had lots of crypto that has since disappeared.

It's a good read. I will stay off binance.us for the time being.

There were many in the last cycle. People tend to forget.


It is not gonna happen now maybe in a few years, they still have different ways of preventing this. Interest rates are coming down too. There is also a very good theory that this massive crash was an orchestrated attack btw.

https://www.cryptopolitan.com/hackers-used-binance-to-crash-crypto-market/


Don't play with dangerous tools and you will be fine.

খুব সম্ভবত আপনি স্কামারের নাম্বারটির কল যেহুতু ধরেছেন, তাই স্কামার কিংবা স্প্যাম নাম্বারের লিস্টে হইতো আপনার নাম্বারটিকেও এন্ডরয়েড সিস্টেম থেকে স্প্যাম নাম্বার হিসাবে লিস্ট করেছে। কেননা এন্ডরয়েড সিস্টেম একটি থার্ড পার্টি কিংবা নির্দিষ্ট ডাটাবেস ব্যাবহার করে, ব্যাবহারকারীকে স্প্যাম নাম্বার সম্পর্কে অবহিত করে থাকে।

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ওমন সবাই করছে এবং অনেকে গত ২ মাসের প্রোজেক্টগুলো থেকে ভালো এয়ারড্রপ পেয়েছে যেমনটা বললাম Perp dex narrative এর জন্য এবং ওমন প্রোজেক্টগুলো লিস্ট হওয়ার কারণে। যাইহোক ভালো প্রোজেক্ট লিস্ট হইলে এয়ারড্রপ ভালো পাবেন, নইলে ওমন একটা ভালো এয়ারড্রপের আশা করা যাবে নাহ।

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টেকনিক্যালি এমন অনেক পরিকল্পনা আমিও করি, কিন্তু প্রোজেক্ট কিংবা মার্কেট পরিকল্পনার বারটা বাজাই দেয়। যাইহোক আবারও শুভকামনা সকলের জন্য যারা Binance Alpha এর চেষ্টা করতেছেন।

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নাহ, launchpool তো আলাদা । Binance Alpha এর জনপ্রিয়তার পর ওমন এয়ারড্রপও কিছু দিয়েছে, আমি যদি ভুল নাহ হয়ে থাকি। যাইহোক আমি বিষয়টা দেখেই জানাবো পরবর্তীতে।

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আপনার পরিস্থিতি এবং ওনার পরিস্থিতিটা সম্পূর্ণ ভিন্ন। কারণ আপনি ক্র্যাক সফটওয়্যার ডাউনলোড করেছিলেন যেগুলোতে malware আগে থেকে থাকে এবং আপনি যখনে ওই ক্র্যাক সফটওয়্যার ইন্সটল করবেন। মেলওয়ারটা প্রথমে আপনার সিস্টেমের anti-malware কে বন্ধ করে আর আপনার সিস্টেম থেকে সব তথ্য নিয়ে নেয়।

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এটা পুরাতন খবর , কেননা এই ঘটনাটা মার্কেট ক্রাশের দিনে হয়েছে বলা যায় এবং আমি এটি আগের পোস্টেই আপনাদের সাথে শেয়ার করেছিলাম।

Some members or traders are not visiting the beginners and help sections, so I support the thread, but I respect other members' opinions if they think it should be locked.

On the discussion, if this is a suicide, I'm surprised that he would commit this terrible act based on the article


He should understand the market movement, as this is not something new, and the community has seen this before; it's not the end of the market, it will eventually recover. We should just be patient. I guess this needs a deep investigation, as there are other causes that lead to his action.

At the point he felt depressed and he was telling members of his family, they would have swinged into action to call him to order and give him some counsel and encouragement to calm him down, knowing fully well that his finances was affected due to the market crash. I think it was that tip off he told his family about him being depressed was how the police came to the conclusion that it was suicide the young man committed. He should have been familiar with the ups and downs of the market, the move he took was too extremely, he could still be alive and recover those money, hence there is life, there is hope.

আসলে ভাই কেউ সহজে আত্নহত্যা করতে চায় না, কিন্তু হয়তো এমন পরিস্থিতির শিকার হয় তখন তাদের আত্নহত্যা করা ছাড়া কোন উপায় থাকে না। আমরা জানি আত্নহত্যা মহাপাপ, যা আল্লাহ মাফ করবে না।

হয়তো তিনি এমন মুদ্রায় বিনিয়োগ করেছিলো যা বিশাল ডাম্পিং হয়েছিলো, যার কারনে কোন উপায় না পেয়ে নিজেকে শেষ করে দিয়েছে। তাই ক্রিপ্টো ঝুকিপূর্ণ সম্পদ, তাই এখানে হারানোর সামর্থ্যর চেয়ে বেশি অর্থ বিনিয়োগ করা উচিত নয়, হয়তো তিনি তার সম্পদের বড় একটা এমাউন্ট বিনিয়োগ করে ফেলেছিলেন। যাইহোক, তার এই কাজটা করা মোটেও করা উচিত হয় নাই, তিনি অবশ্যই বেচে থাকলে যা হারিয়েছিলো তার চেয়ে বেশি ইনকাম করতে পারতেন। আল্লাহ সবাইকে বোঝার তৌফিক দান করুক, বিষয়টি খুবই দুঃখজনক ছিলো।

যাইহোক, ভাই এই ধরনের নিউজ কিন্তু আমাদের দেশের জন্য খারাপ দিক, কারন আমাদের দেশে এমনেতে ক্রিপ্টো নিষিদ্ধ করে রাখা হয়েছে, তাই যদি তারা এই ধরনের নিউজ দেখতে পায় তাহলে আরও কয়েক ধাপ পিছিয়ে হাটা শুরু করবে।

I see that you've make your new thread instead. So... please lock the other one on top of marking it as resolved. The button to lock a thread is at the bottom left of that thread.

I'll look into the details of your situation and reach my contact later, I have to get ready for IRL. Please wait a little


That was other person, lol. I believe you're mistaken this one with this one.

Maybe he is actually from Nigeria and just chose Bangladesh serer on his VPN, therefore having Bengali on that screenshot. 

Joke aside, he is obviosuly a merit farmer, but not a very good one since he didn't manage to farm a lot of merit before being exposed.

I believe, for normal browsing TOR isn't the best choice. Because I do need my previous search history to search for relevant information when I visit the next time. But with TOR, I won't be able do achieve that. As you already know I use TOR, but for causal works, regular surfing I have been using Chrome, Mises, Firefox.

I would rather use an adblocker and be done with the sponsored ads.

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He probably knew that Nigerian local is one of the most active locals and it has tons of active users. So it would be the perfect ground to fish for merit!
Lastly whenever I'm seeing something like this, I can definitely tell that its an alt account.

Hey Shishir99, thank you so much for the positive comments! We've worked very hard on this project and look forward to growing our community 

We want to be unique and grow our own brand so we probably won't peruse buying the now defunct PrimeDice domain. 

Rain had some minor bugs but we are fixing those bugs and will re-enable it very soon! 

We aren't opposed to 3rd party slot providers but for now we need to grow a little. I think all 3rd party slot providers would laugh at us if we requested partnership with any of them. 

Have a great day!

P.S. If you want 15 tokens (1,500/sats) @admin in our chat and I will hook you up!

Well now as you said it, yes I do think so. Casino offered 75k locked under 100x wager requirement, if you think its them "offering what they had to offer", you either didn't read the thread or are stupid indeed. Please refrain from posting further useless comments.


In the cases before, the fines paid by casinos that were operating ilegally were used to reimburse the affected people. Additionally, if it helps even one more person to avoid dealing with this Im more than happy. Winna.com is now blocked and unreachable from any ISP provider in Lithuania, but it is just the first steps that we are taking.

When trying to deal in a friendly manner with Winna, I had offered them a 50/50 split. However, instead of friendly negotiations, I was asked to do a kyc and then threatened to sue if I go public, therefore we will have to do this the hard way and I will go for a full reimbursement+legal fees.


Sad to hear this, I do recommend not listening to people here and instead seeking legal help, as the amount is significant enough, and we do start to see a pattern with Winna here. I have personally received messages from other people in the same boat as well.

It doesn't even matter if the maintenance was real or not at the end, it is not an excuse to return my withdrawals back to balance. Cool off period doesn't make sense with 0 balance and pending withdrawals (that were already confirmed). And I'm not even sure how to react to you saying that them "operating illegally" (which was already confirmed) is non substantial or relevant - this alone has ground for a legal battle, and as history shows multiple casinos had to reimburse/pay fines because of just that - a quick google search will prove this if you don't believe my word.

As per once again being attacked on my gambling habits, I will repeat for the last time, my accusations do not include the money that was lost when withdrawals were cancelled by me, I do take responsibility for my actions.



Not sure what kind of "risk-free" gambling attempt do you see here, have you even read the accusation and proofs? Your comments make no sense at all, we are talking about multiple serious violations on casino side that have been proved, even them *partly* agreeing that they were at fault, and still I'm considered at blame for trying to gamble "risk-free"? Read my previous comments, I had no control over these declined withdrawals.

Perhaps some people can never get enough, no matter what.

I know that you don't completely agree with the idea of luck, yet as long as we are not dead (or perhaps if we have (or had) at least a 4 year investment horizon when we got started), we are so damned fortunate to have had come across bitcoin and come to the realization that it was a place in which we could put value, and yeah, we did not know for sure that it was going to go up, but we considered it as a potentially promising place.

There are so many folks who either don't hear about bitcoin or if they hear about it, they do not recognize and appreciate it as an opportunity, which continues to be true to this day.

Some of us who have been in bitcoin for a while start to believe that the bitcoin trade is obvious, even if it may well be obvious to some of us, since even if there were advantages in being aggressive in our investments, those folks who were moderate and/or even conservative in their bitcoin investment, were still able to profit quite extensively, as long as they stayed somewhat consistent in their buying of bitcoin and erroring on the side of buying and HODLing it.

Sure, there are some guys who have been in bitcoin more than 6 years and still have costs in the $30ks to $50ks, so they might ONLY have 2.5x to 4x profits in their bitcoin holdings, yet there are quite a few of us who have costs per BTC that are quite a bit below $30k, even below $10k per BTC - which surely should have had allowed us to offset the debasement of the dollar and various other fiat currencies.

I suppose some of us have figured out various ways to maintain cashflow in our lives so that we don't feel any urgency to be cashing out much if any of our BTC, and I don't have any problem if guys want to make somewhat radical upgrades to their lifestyle - yet at the same time, it is probably healthier to try to figure out ways to gradually upgrade your lifestyle rather than radically upgrading, even if you are able to radically upgrade.  Not everyone is going to agree with my viewpoint, that is for sure, and surely various aspects of a person's situation - even their age, might cause them to shoot for high aspirations that may well be contributing to extra stresses that may well not be necessary... but hey, to each their own.

Lucky I feel.. .


It is problematic to be playing with leverage, even though surely, there are guys, even in these here parts, who choose to use leverage of some sort or another in their ways of dealing with bitcoin... and sometimes even more leverage than they can handle financially and/or psychologically.. and therefore, small dips can sometimes end up with fairly high magnifying effects.

Historically, it seems that we had much more volatility and even emotions. I recall a lot of time that "stay calm" used to be quite a common theme in these here parts.




Hopefully.  You are still in a good place, even if it is taking you a long time to figure out that the key to bitcoin is to keep stacking until you reach some acceptable version of overaccumulation status.  There are surely a lot of guys who prematurely conclude that they have reached overaccumulation status based on concerns that the prices are continuing to go up... Yet, part of our recognition should still be that so many normies still don't know what the fuck bitcoin is, even though some of them think that they do based on their having had heard the word, "bitcoin."


You are reading me (my post) wrong.  I was merely trying to suggest that some guys can ONLY invest from their income since they either do not have anything saved (and/or they do not have liquid places in which they could draw upon to invest in bitcoin), so they can only invest from their income as their income comes in.. .. and they might not even be able to draw from their income in advance because they either have bad credit, no collateral and/or insufficient credibility in terms of their ongoing income continuing to come in (not that I consider borrowing against your future income to be a good idea, especially for people who are already with questionable credit worthiness or questionable future cashflow and/or back up ways to pay the loan in case the investment goes to zero or does not adequately perform). 


You are in the best position to judge any places in which you are able to increase your income and/or cut your expenses, and so surely it is good that you have figured out various ways to earn bitcoin and to transact with bitcoin, and so that puts you at a certain advantage over folks who still have not yet learn those kinds of aspects of bitcoin.

You likely have had a bit of a problematic mentality when it comes to bitcoin, in terms of your inclinations to spend it without replacing it, and sure, I understand if some of your income is coming from bitcoin, there may well be times in which your various basic expenses exceed your income, so you have to figure out from some places in which to draw from various resources that you have in order to cover the various basic expenses, which is part of the reason that guys will keep various back up funds so that they have cash cushions to cover their expenses when things are not going well or maybe even in times that they might have made some mistakes in their calculating of their income versus their expenses. 

No one can really tell you how to manage your funds and/or how much to emphasize accumulating bitcoin, since level of aggressiveness (or priorities) and/or levels of whimpiness are within your own choices including your putting some efforts in to identifying the value of bitcoin as an asset and/or as a vehicle to both present and future empowerment (empowerment with the potential of having of more options).


A so far 13% correction is hardly anything to pay attention to, and sure guys are in different phases of their bitcoin investment journey, and so you have to figure out where you are on the spectrum of accumulation, maintenance, liquidation or some combination of those and perhaps some priority to one or another depending.. and guys who are in their earliest years into bitcoin will be at various stages of accumulation, so as their bitcoin stash grows they may well find themselves to start to transition into some aspect of the next stage up, yet it still can take guys well over 10 years to get through their accumulation stage, especially if they are building their bitcoin ONLY from their income and they don't have other places in which they can reallocate into bitcoin or other ways to front load their bitcoin without engaging in unnecessary risks. 

Maybe I am a bit too conservative, sometimes, yet it seems to me that there are ways to invest that are mostly focused on building and not taking too many chances of a lot of things potentially going wrong and/or devolving into trading and/or gambling rather than investing.  There are a lot of guys who seem to mix up trading and investing, and sure there are ways in which trading/investing overlap, yet at the same time, some guys seem to wrongly conclude that with bitcoin they need to transition between buying and selling their bitcoin in order to hopefully build their bitcoin stash in a more rapid way... yet frequently trying to rush an investment (like bitcoin) might either contribute to opposite results or even hinder the building process in unnecessary ways.

It seems that you might need to just ongoingly focus on building your bitcoin, and if you sell any bitcoin that you have, then spend and replace them in a fairly short period of time, yet you likely have to rethink what targets you are trying to reach..  so for example, if your current income is $20k to $30k, yet you were shooting for something like a $40k per year income that could be completely supported by bitcoin, then from my point of view, right now you would need right around 7.455 BTC or more to reach that threshold of being able to perpetually draw $40k per year and with a 7% per year optional income increase.

Even if you currently do not have 7.455 BTC, and maybe you ONLY have 1.5 BTC (which it seems that you don't even have that much, even though you have been in registered on this forum since early 2017)... but let's say that you were to either have 1.5 BTC or able to accumulate that amount by 2031, then perhaps by 2031, 1.5 BTC would be enough to support a perpetual income of $40k per year with 7% annual increases.

Of course, projections of future prices are not guaranteed, yet it still can be helpful to have some ballpark ideas about where we are at (how did we get here should be more concrete) and where we think that we might be able to go. None of this is guaranteed.  We do our best based on our circumstances as they are and what we realistically might consider to be within our capabilities, and sometimes we will end up in a better situation than we had expected ourselves to be, which has been the case with quite a few folks who have been in bitcoin for a long time and who have stayed focused on accumulating and mostly holding their bitcoin.

besides the selective scams, it can get really ugly for both the users and the merchants.
if i remember correctly, there was a case in turkey where they arrested a bunch of people and the CEO of one of the biggest online payment platforms there for facilitating illegal gambling operations and payments.
i think they were using thousands of regular people accounts without their knowledge to move all the money around, it was a huge case.

you can't make this shit up, right as we are talking about it, it happened to someone (again).

It used to open in a new tab by default, but @LoyceV evangelized me on the art of "let the user decide".

Same tab = just click
New tab = middle mouse button OR ctrl + click
New window = shift + click

And I think I agree with him.

I 100% agree on that. But that's not a excuse for the casino.

That's what your middle mouse button is for (or both at once on a touchpad): "open in new tab".

Seems a bit bearish, but sure, it could happen.

And, if you end up being wrong?  and there is more upside than what you are expecting, then is your bitcoin stash going to still be o.k. ?  meaning that you had not going to have regrets that you sold too much too soon.

And, golly gee whiz, I am nearly ready to propher a bet that you are not correct, especially the bottom.

Right now, I am willing to do a 50/50 bet that we will never see sub $80k ever again (meaning until the end of 2027).. and your bottom seems to be bringing us into the lower $70ks or the upper $60ks.. which seems problematic.

It also seems problematic to have so much of a down without first having a blow off top, and you are ONLY expecting a blow off top in the ballpark of $150k - perhaps with a bit of leeway to allow up to $200k, and imagine if we ONLY get a blow off top of $200k, how are you going to get below $80k or even below $100k with those kinds of whimpy blow off tops... You seem to be expecting blow-off tops for ants.. which there might be something wrong with your thinking if that's all you are perceiving to be likely from my lil precious. 

I understand that we have BIGGER players coming into the scenes and using financial tools to manipulate bitcoin, yet we also cannot be sure that their attempts to manipulate bitcoin might not come flying into their faces.. and then they are stuck trying to figure out which kinds of injustices to perpetuate regarding who will be getting bail outs and who not?  but that does not necessarily mean that we get down without up..


Historically, we have experienced 70% to 90% corrections in bitcoin, yet those level of corrections have tended to have some kind of a blow off top prior to the correction, and perhaps the 2021 blow off top might have had been the smallest with only around 16.5x, if we count from $4,200 in April 2019 to its November 2021 top at $69k.

I understand that even I pick somewhat random numbers as what I consider to be the base starting out price.

For this cycle, I am considering our starting off point to have had been around $27k in October 2023, and so if we use $27k as our starting out point, so far we have ONLY had right around a 4.7x price appreciation (up to our so far top of $126,272).   Personally, I can hardly imagine getting a 70% correction from that so far level of a blow off top, so in some sense, it seems to me that we are needing much more blow-off-toppedness in order to get some kind of a meaningful correction, yet $100k, and even $80k are stil potentially in jeopardy, so I am not really disagreeing with your thesis that sub-$100k becomes much less likely the further above $100k that we get, yet we have to get a whole hell of a lot more distance above $100k before it we can start to rule out the testing of $100k or even sub $100k.. and historically, we have had all kinds of corrections that have been 50% or greater.. so it is probably better that you don't start counting your chickens (from your eggs) too soon in regards to our being safe from going below $100k, until perhaps we get at least to $200k.

Sure, you might be correct.  Maybe we are getting enough of a price cushion above $100k and sub $100k will never be reached, again, yet it just seems way too presumptuous and premature to to be proposing that we are getting safer and safer from having $100k to be tested.

And think about it. 

we don't get to a point in which a 70% no longer touches $100k until we get to $333k, so you also seem to be being too presumptuous if you are saying that we are not going to have anymore 70% (or more) corrections until after we go above $333k.  Can you see how you are just overly wishing when you seem to be writing off sub $100k before the BTC prices at least get into the upper $200ks?

You still might end up being correct, and we never see sub $100k again and/or we don't have $100k tested, yet that seems to be to pie in the sky hopeful, even if I am ongoingly telling people to be preparing for up and not be waiting for down before they buy (and stack up on) BTC.


You seem to think that the solution is to sell in order that you have more money in case the price falls..

Yet if you are merely investing within your income then you just keep investing no matter what, whether the BTC price falls or not.

sure, you could hold back some of your buys, so that you are only buying with half of your income, so if the price goes down, you have some money saved up, yet you might end up saving up way more than you need, and then the price does not end up going down, and so you end up with too much fiat when you should have had been buying bitcoin all along.. which seems to be your issue already, if you had not been buying steady since early 2017, so you still have not figured out your mistake and you keep repeating it by failing/refusing to ongoingly, regularly, persistently, consistently and perhaps even aggressively buy (of course, within your already existing discretionary income, whatever that might be).  Another thing is trying to figure out ways to increase your discretionary income by increasing your income and/or by cutting your expenses, and maybe trying to reach an accumulation rate that is greater than 15% of your income. or some other kind of large number that is also reasonable.

There's no excuse for the casino rejecting 400+ withdrawal. It's some obvious proof they voided it till OP lose the funds ain't you get to the point?

i think the gambling ban is stupid tbh. like you said, people are gonna gamble anyway, and it's clear most of those casinos have no plans of exiting the indian market (there's a lot of money to be made there).
so maybe not restrict indian players outright, but they should at least disable fiat deposits and withdrawals.

apparently they are exiting gray markets preparing to target licenses in the middle east, at least that's what i saw in a tweet by noah from shuffle, and it does make sense.

i agree, if someone is gonna gamble on a crypto casino, they should stick to using crypto.

I just saw this. Sadly, it looks like their account got compromised and posted a malware/suspicious link, which got their account banned. I don't even know if the account will be restored.

Instead of asking for their compromised account to be restored, they should ask if another representative of their casino could create another account for their casino's ANN thread and tackle the issue involving their casino.

If the account got block because he was spreading malware then I don't think it should get unbanned even if there is in a appeal thread. Yeah I understand that anyone can operate any scam service and make an ann thread and they won't get blocked on Bitcointalk but spreading virus is against the policy and let's see what comes the outcome of this ban account.

You might be right about the fake maintenance, but you don't know for sure if it was fake or not. You don't have proof it was fake, thus that's not really grounds for anything here. I'm surprised you didn't ask for a self-exclusion or cooloff period.

https://winna.com/rg

At some point you have to assume some personal responsibility for your actions. If I were you, I would just stay away from crypto casinos from hereon out.

Also, when complainants tack on stuff like "they operated illegally in Lithuania" its because the merits of their case aren't very strong to begin with. Pick one issue, hammer that issue by presenting solid evidence in your favor, and don't deviate from it until it is resolved, or you can't go any further with it.


There's no reason why both things can't be true at the same time. The player has a responsibility to control themselves and the casino has a responsibility to adhere to the standards of their license.

FALSE the house has a direct duty and depending on which license they hold will depend on which responsibilities they have.

In addition to these Safe Gambling restrictions, they also almost always contain clauses where errors and bugs almost always will void all bets. If a cashout is requested and then is delayed due to any reason, there is no reason to return the requested transfer to the players account. The request is still a valid one in any instance and should remain in review until fulfilled or the players account is restricted from logging in. If the player is awaiting further document verification they also should not be allowed to conduct any more bets.


You assumed correct because the player is entitled to the full amount. Any admission of error voids all bets.

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It's quite a decent amount, around $233 if converted to USD, even that amount is enough to support your family (wife + children) for one month if you live in my country, and if we talk about deposits and withdrawals in local currency, from my experience playing at BC I didn't encounter any problems, even the withdrawal time was very fast compared to local sites that I often use, maybe because the withdrawal amount is not too much so there are no obstacles.

Gamblr.io Username- Shishir99
Merit Earned(lifetime)- 515
BTC Segwit Addy- bc1qzttaatxpk60dtxex7g830tea3m9uq3fuvknmrh

I've been slacking with these overviews for quite some time, publishing them at the end of the month, so this time I've decided to do it a bit earlier for a change. As always, all charts and table are made using data from @DdmrDdmr Merit Dashboard and @TryNinja Ninjastic Space.

Communities marked with * (Pakistan, Bengali) don't have their own local boards.

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Post activity per local board during September 2025

Increase of activity in Nigerian board continues, from 3812 posts in August to 4255 in September, making it their new all time high. At the same time, majority of the other very active local boards had decreased activity, and that's something that is going on for a while.

Generally speaking, no surprise that total amount of posts written across local boards dropped from 13107 in August to 12612 in September.

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Active members per local board during September 2025

During the last month, 1292 members wrote at least one post in one of the local boards, which is a decrease compared to August (1344).

While in August Russian board still had more active members than Nigerian board, this changed in September and now Nigerian is finally topping this chart as well, and the difference will probably keep increasing. All the other local boards are far behind the others, with mostly decreased number of active members compared to month before.

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Local board members per amount of posts during September 2025

When it comes to the members who wrote only 1 post, Spanish is the leader with 54% of such members, while Pakistan local had only 12% members in that bracket.

In the 2-9 posts bracket, Polish the leader with 60%, while at the same time Croatian had the lowest percentage of such members (21%)

Regarding the 10+ posts bracket, Nigerian and Portuguese local boards ahsred the 1st spot with 47%, while French had only 6% of members in that group.

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Merit shared per local board during September 2025

During September, 8922 merit was shared acorss local boards, which is a decrease compared to month before (9258). Even the record high 2964 merit that was shared in Nigerian board didn't help, which is due the fact that many of the other active local boards had decrease of merit in that period. It will be inreersting to see whether Nigerian local breaks the 3k merit shared mark, something that hasn't been broken in local boards since the early merit days, back in 2018 in Russian board.

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Merit/Post ratio per local board during September 2025

The average merit per post across local boards was 0.7, the exactly the same as in August. Once again Romanian is at the top, and this time with even higher ratio than month before, and again followed by German board while this time Italian board is 3rd instead of Spanish.

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Merit senders and receivers per local board during September 2025

During September, 582 members sent while 656 received merit. Nigerian local board dominates this board as well, with the diference that hasn't been seen in a long time.

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Percentage of merited posts across local boards during September 2025

I thought that 100% of merited posts in Romanian board was just an anomaly, but they almost managed to achieve that 2 months in a row while Polish board also had a very high percentage, but its no so weird given their amount of posts. What is a surprise though is Italian board, given their pretty good overall activity (that was lower than usual in the last few months).

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Merit per transaction across local boards during September 2025

This month German board is at the top having which is not the surprise given their high merit per post ratio, but French and Greek definitely are.

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The most active members per local board during September 2025

Last but not the list in this monthly overview, list of the most active members per local board. joker_josue from Portuguese board remained at the top with 144 posts, while executijere and mandown from Turkish board are at the 2nd and 3rd spot with also respectable 140 and 124 posts. GG guys, keep it up!

Russian	|	German	|	Turkish	|	Italian	|	Portuguese	|	Spanish	|
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1. klarki [124]	|	1. MaxMueller [82]	|	1. execijutiere [140]	|	1. Ale88 [47]	|	1. joker_josue [144]	|	1. famososMuertos [57]	|
2. zasad@ [90]	|	2. Lakai01 [77]	|	2. mandown [124]	|	2. fillippone [40]	|	2. TryNinja [62]	|	2. darxiaomi [52]	|
3. Numeral [85]	|	3. cygan [58]	|	3. ajanwalker [66]	|	3. *Ace* [36]	|	3. bitmover [59]	|	3. Porfirii [31]	|
4. Julien_Olynpic [79]	|	4. Koal-84 [50]	|	4. RaltcoinsB [62]	|	4. babo [30]	|	4. sabotag3x [52]	|	4. danadc [23]	|
5. Alex077 [64]	|	5. MinoRaiola [50]	|	5. yenerbatmaz [54]	|	5. Plutosky [28]	|	5. mikel_012 [49]	|	5. Don Pedro Dinero [21]	|
6. safar1980 [48]	|	6. Real-Duke [40]	|	6. blomen [52]	|	6. conilmionome [27]	|	6. Forsyth Jones [38]	|	6. Hispo [15]	|
7. Lannakosa [42]	|	7. Unknown01 [34]	|	7. Mustang Shelby [51]	|	7. Lillominato89 [26]	|	7. alegotardo [36]	|	7. paxmao [7]	|
8. Excimer [41]	|	8. mole0815 [29]	|	8. eightdots [44]	|	8. gbianchi [24]	|	8. velhoti [26]	|	8. btc-marty [6]	|
9. KTChampions [41]	|	9. 5tift [21]	|	9. xzone [41]	|	9. giorgione [22]	|	9. alexrossi [22]	|	9. darbitmobilerecovery [6]	|
10. eisen33 [39]	|	10. Soonandwaite [20]	|	10. Black Mbaye [40]	|	10. martinom [18]	|	10. rdluffy [22]	|	10. d5000 [5]	|

Indonesian	|	French	|	Pilipinas	|	Croatian	|	Nigerian	|	Arabic	|
_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|
1. traderethereum [25]	|	1. Danydee [12]	|	1. gunhell16 [63]	|	1. slackovic [45]	|	1. Jubilee58 [83]	|	1. Kavelj22 [36]	|
2. Rashlyowl [24]	|	2. patrickus [9]	|	2. technicalguy83 [55]	|	2. ovcijisir [41]	|	2. Charles-Tim [75]	|	2. yhiaali3 [24]	|
3. Nahl [22]	|	3. oscar2000 [5]	|	3. tech30338 [54]	|	3. katanic97 [38]	|	3. Mr_Brilliant$ [52]	|	3. khaled0111 [23]	|
4. maydna [22]	|	4. TryNinja [4]	|	4. blockman [52]	|	4. Pmalek [27]	|	4. Floxynice [51]	|	4. FoxTM1 [7]	|
5. mu_enrico [21]	|	5. akfreebtc [4]	|	5. Peanutswar [42]	|	5. examplens [26]	|	5. Donk1 [49]	|	5. HistoLock [7]	|
6. Akbarkoe [20]	|	6. GrosWesh [3]	|	6. cryptoaddictchie [37]	|	6. Rikafip [20]	|	6. Bright0515 [48]	|	6. AP Taurus Capital [6]	|
7. joniboini [20]	|	7. SimonBHB [3]	|	7. arwin100 [27]	|	7. Trofo [17]	|	7. Tonimez [42]	|	7. Ochan_yazo_tochant [6]	|
8. TelolettOm [18]	|	8. G.Seed [2]	|	8. Russlenat [23]	|	8. dkbit98 [13]	|	8. Karl_3000 [40]	|	8. Sebastian Michaelis [5]	|
9. MAAManda [17]	|	9. mably [2]	|	9. bhadz [22]	|	9. paco92x [11]	|	9. JoyceBTC [37]	|	9. hugeblack [4]	|
10. masulum [15]	|	10. Becassin [1]	|	10. coin-investor [21]	|	10. CroBoy12 [9]	|	10. PremiumcryptoHub [36]	|	10. GxSTxV [2]	|

Polish	|	Indian	|	Greek	|	Romanian	|	Pakistan*	|	Bengali*	|
_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|
1. cygan [26]	|	1. Bitcoin Smith [42]	|	1. Ultegra134 [18]	|	1. GazetaBitcoin [12]	|	1. qurbanshah02 [76]	|	1. Bd officer [23]	|
2. TryNinja [4]	|	2. JSRAW [32]	|	2. cryptosize [10]	|	2. NeuroticFish [6]	|	2. JunaidAzizi [40]	|	2. Crypto Library [22]	|
3. pawel7777 [4]	|	3. pawanjain [28]	|	3. condoras [8]	|	3. TryNinja [4]	|	3. BTC FutureKing [31]	|	3. DYING_S0UL [18]	|
4. ertil [2]	|	4. henry1111 [20]	|	4. alani123 [6]	|	4. othell_rogue [1]	|	4. ZAINmalik75 [31]	|	4. God Of Thunder [14]	|
5. EXMON [1]	|	5. IIrik11 [19]	|	5. apogio [4]	|		|	5. HustleZ [28]	|	5. Z_MBFM [12]	|
	|	6. henmark [17]	|	6. Satos21 [1]	|		|	6. Cheema02 [25]	|	6. Shishir99 [9]	|
	|	7. TheUltraElite [14]	|	7. siderisng [1]	|		|	7. MusaPk [24]	|	7. LDL [8]	|
	|	8. XXKK-Exchange [12]	|		|		|	8. Ab de villiers [21]	|	8. Mahiyammahi [7]	|
	|	9. libert19 [10]	|		|		|	9. Publictalk792 [20]	|	9. Review Master [7]	|
	|	10. LucyFurr [9]	|		|		|	10. Compromise me [18]	|	10. Yea_btc [5]	|

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I HODL mostly...but had a Trezor like 5 years ago or more.....it was empty and would not do the software upload and hung....I contacted Trezor...told them I had an

Alienware Laptop and they said 'high end' laptops of that type had an issue with too much voltage or some such with the usb ports (odd but specific error to high end laptops of the

time I remember he said ) I said where is the fix...he said it two few in number and was not often enough a bug to make a look into a fix so I should just use the Trezor

and re-do it all on a different laptop without the usb issue in that

it was empty. What if it was not empty was never addressed. I HODL anyway ..went back to paper wallets the next day ...hell btc dust is safer IMHO on PayPal or Coinbase

with that attitude...Trezor support aware of this but and not even gonna try to fix the bug? It was told not worth their time....maybe my view is extreme but was btc

dust so a non-issue. Actually, MAYBE by NOT having

a handy Trezor around kept me more in HODL mode anyway....as a habit these last 5 years on btc dust. Cumbersome paper wallets would be helpful in that regard.

Also I figure if Coinbase chokes on my btc dust the btc ecosystem has way more problems. I'll have all my time crying on such a backlash on the large stuff.

trezors and seeds are good.

I regret it, oh how painful!

If I had been on the forum then and understood the importance of Bitcoin earlier. Then I would have been in a position to be proud of myself today.

Anyway, I am learning, understanding and slowly progressing. Although I am late, the game is not over yet.


Just Chill Bro...

I will only sell when I really need to because I learned a long time ago that being your own bank is a great advantage, not a disadvantage, as at least 95% of people in the world apparently think.

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It never occurred to me to use clouds, emails or similar things to store my backups - most of my coins are on air-gapped wallets with the seed/s and passphrase/s separated in different locations.

He should sell it all and see if he is the new mindrust. Or if he was smart

Frankly I would not sell any large amount/percentage of my coin right now.

The link to their Telegram group, taken directly from their website, is https://t.me/+ThXUpUG9AYLlgHs4. In the chat, if you scroll back, you will see some of my messages that were not deleted (at least at the time of writing this).

I seem to have been blocked from using their live chat. When I click on it, nothing happens. I am not the only one experiencing this. Someone else in their Telegram group also complained that the live chat is not working (one of the latest messages there). I am sure they are aware of the issue, but they have not addressed it, as they later posted a promotional video without responding to this person’s complaint. My theory is that they block access to the live chat whenever a complaint is made.

They also do not respond to emails sent to their support address (support@sportbet.one).

At this time, I unfortunately have no way to communicate with them.

There are people here that only come to check on this thread while holding huge portfolio of Bitcoin.

You can't tell who is holding and who is not.

Smart people are catching cruise here while they are multi Bitcoin millionaires.

You're missing the point: you asked if you should sell now and buy back later. My point is: nobody can tell you that.

He should definitely own some Bitcoin still because his activities and contribution in the forum suggest that he is still in the game. As for the Foxpup, it seems it is not only merit they are cycling but they also have a lot of Bitcoin to go round the privileged members.

You surely have an advantage over folks who don't know about bitcoin, even if you seem to have had been making mistakes in the past and not recognizing the importance in accumulating bitcoin.

Perhaps you are able to correct your ways of thinking, and at some point start to think about bitcoin differently, since many of us likely recognize and appreciate that any and all people who have discretionary income can be advantaged by accumulating bitcoin in a focused way for perhaps one or two cycles or more, and surely the amount of discretionary income that a person has and also the amount that they are able to prioritize bitcoin investing and/or perhaps front load their investment, then they can get to a status where it becomes reasonable to spend their bitcoin.

Of course, I am not against spend and replace, and I also recognize that guys who earn income in bitcoin might be more forced to sell some of their bitcoin to cover their regular expenses, so calculations might be somewhat different for guys who are earning in bitcoin or maybe engaged in activities where they are spending and replacing bitcoin, yet at the same time, we seem to be in the midst of perhaps the largest peaceful wealth transfer known to mankind from the no coiners and low coiners and over to the coiners, so each of us who has coins or obtains coins are likely going to benefit more directly from such wealth transfer as contrasted to those who either do not have coins or are lackadaisical in regards to how many coins they choose to have (especially when they have way fewer coins than what they could have had).  In the end, its totally up to you to figure out how much importance you want to place on bitcoin accumulation to attempt to do it sooner rather than later.


Of course, you can do whatever you like, yet personally, I don't recommend selling any bitcoin until you reach overaccumulation status, even if you perceive the BTC price to be high.  If you have not been spending the past-ish years accumulating bitcoin, then you better get started.

You may or may not be able to get bitcoin cheaper than today's prices, and since you don't know it is best to be accumulating bitcoin through buying in a way that is persistent, consistent, regular, ongoing and perhaps even aggressive.. it can take 4-10 years or longer to really accumulate a decently good sized bitcoin stash..

Let's say that in the past 8-ish years, you had an income that had largely been between $30k and $50k per year, and you had largely been investing around $100 per week into bitcoin, so then you would have had invested right around $42k and you would have had accumulated right around 4.3 BTC.   If your goal was to be able to live off of your investment and to have right around an $80k per year income, you would still be in the process of building up your bitcoin to that goal.

From my perspective, right now 4.3 BTC  would merely be capable of generating a sustainable income of about $23k per year, it also seems to me that whether you continued to add to that stash or not, by 2028, if your BTC stash were to be anywhere between 4.3 and 5 BTC, you would be in a position to be able to sustainably (meaning forever and ever) generate an income of at least $80k per year.. .including with annual increases in your income of 7%.    I think that would be a good place to build towards, yet each person creates and builds towards his own goals.


We have not had a whole hell of a lot of blow off UP, yet our corrections have not been very great either.  Ever since about October 2023, we probably have only had 1 or 2 corrections that might have gotten into the mid-20% territory or greater, with the correction from $109k to $74k being right about 30%.   Other corrections have largely been in the 5% to 15% territory, and surely nothing to write home about if they cannot at least get to double digits (not that I am rooting for down).. I surely would prefer to keep grinding up, and I expect that at some point the amount of up is going to "be allowed" to run a bit more (not that bears really have a choice).

I bet what is going on is that the bearwhales are reading your posts, and they are purposefully slowing down our move to $150k, just to fuck with you, LFC... Since from reading your posts, they surely would know which OG bullwhale to fuck with... hahahahahaha.. wouldn't have had imagined that having right around 7x entry level fuck you status would have had put you at bullwhale status... by the way, it could be the case that you ONLY have around 5x entry-level fuck you status if you might have had been selling a wee bit more cornz along the way without saying anything... .. yet either way.. it is not a bad place to be...and yeah, no need to confirm or deny, since we have a decently wide range of variables that affect how we might choose to deal with our coins.


I think that it makes a pretty big difference if you are merely selling some bitcoin from time to time, and accounting for your having enough or more than enough so you are merely reallocating into other assets or just making sure that you are not overly weighted in bitcoin.  

It seems that part of the problem that Loyce is highlighting is that his goal in selling the coins was to buy them back at a lower price, which frequently I consider that to be the wrong mindset for anyone who is still early in his bitcoin journey and still building up his bitcoin stash, so  in those circumstances, his goal would be to continue to increase the bitcoin quantity.

One of the problems in our early years in bitcoin we might not be sure exactly what we are accumulating or even consider that bitcoin's value proposition is so great that if we are not in it at the right time or when it does a staircase step upwards, then we are in a worse position because we lost our focus on accumulating..

Another thing that selling does is that it puts us into a waiting mindset, and so we are waiting around for the BTC price to go down rather than ongoingly buying, so we end up with fewer coins both because we sold too much too early expecting to be able to buy them back, and also we compound our problem by failing/refusing to continue to buy because we have it in our head that the BTC price has to come back down sooner or later, yet there are times in bitcoin's history when it never comes back down again... so then by the time we figure out that the BTC price is not coming back down, it may well be 30% to 60% higher, and we are still having a dilemma about whether or not we should buy some more.  A lot of guys go through such issue in bitcoin, so it is likely not even a matter of smart or dumb, but just getting caught up in our own attempts to figure things out, when we likely would be better off just buying at any price for a decently long period of time before we start to think about prices and the extent to which our holdings are in profits or not.

Don't get me wrong, there still could be ways to ongoingly, consistently, persistently, regularly and even aggressively buy bitcoin while at the same time playing around with trying to buy more on dips or having systems of holding a certain amount of the buy authorized for dips that may or may not end up happening.


Frequently for newbies, it is way better to stop thinking about bitcoin as a trade but instead a lifetime investment, and so therefore just keep buying regularly for at least 4-10 years or longer... but hey, whatever.   You do you.


Ongoing buying helps that, especially for newbies... yet figuring out the amount to buy might well be another story.. $100 per week?  $10 per week? or some other amount that is reasonably within your budget and of course within your discretionary funds.


I think that right now, as I type this post, bitcoin's addressable market is close to $1 quadrillion in today's dollars (that is about a 500x), and of course, by the time bitcoin gets to $1 quadrillion in its market cap, the addressable market may well become $10 quadrillion (in real terms, rather than today's dollars) based on the ongoing debasement of the dollar.

In regards to addressable market, I am partially referring to some of the work of Jesse Meyers

https://www.onceinaspecies.com/p/bitcoins-full-potential-valuation

I think it wasn't act that started the post about Royse, it was one whywhy account that started the speculation that a know manager could be exiting the forum or something like that. This was when information came from Altcoinstalk about a campaign managed by Royse being a scam and Royse locked the thread immediately after the scam without giving people the opportunity to talk about the scam. This was thr genesis of the whole matter, I do not see a direct accusation by act, although he created the post.

Royse will not exit the forum because of one scam. No matter how much is involved in the scam, Royse can still make such amount of money in few years working here in the forum.

It will be less painful if you did this and still have some Bitcoin now, you won't feel much but will just see it as part of the process. Those sells are not entirely mistakes because buying and selling is what Bitcoin should do and those transactions makes the network stronger.

However, it would have been terribly bad if you sold those Bitcoin and don't have anyone now. The regrets would have been intense and renewed anytime Bitcoin creates a new ATH . There were times I also sold some of my Bitcoins for reasons I don't know but then it was part of the business and what is most important is never to run out of Bitcoin.

I remember selling 0.5 BTC for €200 when I started in Bitcoin, thinking I'd buy it back cheaper later. I'm still waiting for that moment....

I have updated my post to include that formatting. Thank you for advising how to do so.

I have unfortunately been blocked from their live chat. I was instantly blocked once I questioned why they think I have multiple accounts.

I have tried them via email too. I got an initial reply (as you can now see in my original post), but no follow-up since then.

Do not mind him, I did not accuse Royse that he was involved in a scam. I only said if Royse did not come back online, but he came back online but many people are misinterpreting me.


You are wrong, that is not an accusation.


The accusation would be if Royse did not come online.

I am not a newcomer to the forum. However, when it comes to having faith in Bitcoin and starting to accumulate it, I am relatively new to the concept. I actually didn't accumulate Bitcoin. I earned some Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies from various campaigns, projects, and websites, but I mostly spend them on buying gadgets, shirts, and that's it. I didn't make thousands of dollars at that time. But I am sure I could have had thousands of dollars if I had saved them in a wallet. I started accumulating Bitcoin for the last two years, maybe? However, I also sold some portions to buy things.

I am still holding some sats, and I am getting paid in Bitcoin from the signature campaign. I saved a portion of the payment. I am now in confusion because I don't know what to do in the current market. I know the market won't continue to grow; it will likely decline again. Shouldn't I sell some portion again and hold some fiat so I can buy back when the market goes down?

Oh I agree with you.  I'm just trying to reduce the anger towards _act_, who I can understand why he did what he did.  It's a scary time out there and unless you have stolen thousands of bitcoin, many people need the signature income.   Royse has a right to be offended if he/she wants, but hopefully this doesn't turn into a mob over a worried post.

Now, if _act_ had a lot of influence here, and if the accusation cost Royse income, there would be an avenue for legal compensation.   But hopefully everyone knows Royse is a trustworthy person and we can move on. 

Did I miss _act_ accusing Royse of something?

It's just a draft for opening posts (you can just edit yours, no need to make a new one). This makes it easier for everyone to see what the case is about and sometimes safes some time one might waste reading through a long post. Some people just write a lot without saying anything.
It's just a basic information overview in the end, easy to write in some minutes,

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Please have everyone review the spreadsheet and ensure the respective BTC address is correct. Since we made a lot of changes, I may likely make a mistake.

For the formatting, are you saying to put all my information into that formatting as a reply in this thread? Or should I create a new thread formatted in that way?

Thank you for the advice, I will try creating a complaint there.

$130k to $150k are fairly modest expectations.


Gold is a bit of a distraction (in terms of what to invest into), even though gold is providing a bit of a market signal of worry/concern in regards to soundness of money and/or current likely precarious status of money/debt systems..

In other words, don't be putting (or keeping) any more than 10% of the size of your bitcoin holdings into gold, and even that might be too much.


Doesn't seem fake to me, even though surely I will concede that we have been having a bit of a crawling and grinding of all time highs, and isn't that what people want.  So many guys call for stability, and so this grinding up creates a bit of actual real world stability, in contrast to the blow off tops that might have had been our alternative way of BTC prices playing out.


There are so many of us who seem to be laddering on the way up, so in that way we are not getting too excited about selling very much at any given price.  It seems to me that ladders can be created in ways that are mostly comfortable, but they are not completely comfortable, since there can still be regrets when the BTC price ends up correcting and then maybe thoughts about not having had sold enough.. which is part of the point of the ladder in order to shave off some level of satisfaction that allows for being happy whether the price goes up or down... it is difficult to find any exact level of satisfaction, even with ladder sales it could take more than a cycle or two for the cash from the ladder sales to really start to pile up.


Yeah, if you were to be ONLY 16 years old, then how could you be a "seasoned" and "well-endowed" investor?


I personally consider selling as a bad way to accumulate bitcoin, so it is best to keep buying, especially if you are a newbie.

It is difficult to know whether you consider yourself as a newbie or an OG, Shishir99, since you have been registered here since early 2017, so surely it could have had been possible that you have accumulated enough or more than enough BTC.

In the end, it is up to you to figure out if you have reached a status of having enough or more than enough bitcoin and the extent to which you consider selling to be a good accumulation strategy in the even that you might have had determined that you don't have enough bitcoin, yet.

A lot of OGs make mistakes by selling too much too soon, and also they make mistakes by failing/refusing to continue to accumulate bitcoin and/or considering themselves an OG prior to their having had accumulated enough bitcoin to be categorized as such.

I am pretty sure that LFC has reached overaccumulation status within his own assessment, yet I am also thinking that he is under-estimating the top and giving too much credit to our up and coming dip.. yet I think that he is somewhat prepared (psychologically and financially) in case our dip does not end up going as low as he had expected... ..    So yeah, of course, each of us come to our own assessments based on our personal factors.


FTFY  hahahahahaha


This is kind of a fantasy kind of a song... which does not seem to be a good mindset for an investor.  There are needs to take emotions out of investment decisions, especially with something so volatile and crazy like bitcoin, which I doubt any of bitcoin's wildness and/or volatility is going to be going away the near future, even though some folks have been lulled into our recent crawling (grinding) up of the BTC price and perhaps concluding that this crawling (grinding) up is bitcoin's new norm.


The thing with Shishir99 is that he might have had already been stacking bitcoin for 8-ish years, which truly would  give him advantages over someone just starting, yet the idea is still similar in which there is a need to get to a certain level of holding bitcoin before starting to consider selling, especially if a person has not reached overaccumulation status yet.

Regarding your use of 1 BTC as an example. My own charts project around 1 BTC to be enough for default entry-level fuck you status by around late 2037, yet of course when projecting out 12-ish years, there can be a variety of factors.. and surely in some locations, there might be some ability to have a standard of living that is much lower than my default entry-level status, which I consider to be $80k per year in today's dollars.