Yeah, it sounds insane. This was a multi-national engineering firm and they had all the processes that you are talking about. The employee that got scammed knew the protocols. And they still approved fifteen separate transfers on five different bank accounts because they SAW their colleagues on video that it was legitimate.

Critically, the scam utilised exact the legal processes. The deepfakes were good enough that the employee thought they were following proper authorization procedures. They believed that they were being careful in demanding the video call.

Caller ID can be faked. Video can be faked. Even if the call is coming from the right number and you see the right face, you don't still know whether it is real.

You're not wrong smaller amounts are more common. And as the technology is becoming cheaper, what's preventing these syndicates from doing hundreds of smaller scams, instead of one big one? The barrier to entry is coming down quickly.



The Turkey case is interesting because it shows how fast this was to move, right? Anyway, they caught the person. Security forces arrested them. There was accountability. But I wonder how many times there were attempts that we didn't hear. How many worked. How many government officials or companies got fooled but never say anything like it's embarrassing.

Voice to video is a huge leap. With voice you can be suspicious anyway. But video? That's where our brains just... accept it. We tend to believe what we see rather than what we hear.

Do you think that the institutional targets (governments, high-ranking officials) are rather more or less vulnerable than the regular people? Because on the one hand, they have security teams and protocols. On the other hand, they're high value targets worth the effort.

Like, the individual who tried to impersonate Erdogan probably spent a lot of time and money to do so because the payoff would be massive. But now that the technology is getting cheaper, are those economics changing in terms of who gets targeted?



The social media deepfakes are pretty obvious. But, the deepfakes that you see on the social media are created for fun or low-effort scams. They're not targeting you specifically. They don't have to be perfect because they're casting a wide net.

This was a targeted attack on a specific company with preparation time. The scammers knew who the CFO was, what he looked like, how he talked. They probably scraped hours of video from company presentations, earnings calls, public appearances. Then they created the deepfake - specifically for that employee. And they impersonated several executives during a real-time video conferencing.


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The privacy angle is interesting though. You're correct, if a third party has your data, then something went wrong. But in this case, the data they needed was in the public domain. Company website. LinkedIn. Earnings calls. Press conferences. All public information. They didn't have to hack anything. So they just had to scrape out what was already out there. And moreover, He is CFO

The employee in this case did everything right by traditional security standards. They were suspicious about the email. They demanded video verification. They still got destroyed. So what's the standard now? Never trust video? Never trust voice? Only perform financial transactions in person?



Who pays for it? Because if the solution is "buy software to detect fakes", then we're just creating another problem from our own advancement. People who have money get protection. Everyone else continues to be vulnerable.

The economics of this arms race do not favor detection. Generating deepfakes is becoming less and less expensive by the month. Detection requires constant updating, constant investment. The attacker does not have to win all the time. The defender must win each and every time.

I've been thinking about this a lot since I wrote the post. The limitation of AI that you're talking about, yeah, it exists now. But it's shrinking. Every time detection gets better, generation gets better too. And generation's always gonna be cheaper because you're creating something, you're not analyzing something.

So even if anti-AI software becomes big, I don't know if it solves the underlying issue. Which is: trust used to be free. Now it costs money. And that cost is going to continue to increase.

Maybe you can as of now but if you look at the speed at which AI is getting better (or worse for some matters), what about couple of years later? Even today, what about your grandparents? Are they able to differentiate? Usually, scammers target previous generation for such scams.
I have a first hand experience of this. One my relative got a call from the police saying that they have arrested me for kidnapping/raping a girl and if they want to save me they have to pay bribe. On the phone call, it was even my voice (screaming for help in the back ground). Luckily they verified and the scam did not work but it could have if my phone is out of reach/batter dead etc. 
 
Hmm nice idea, you can set a code phrase offline among your loved ones so that when the situation arise when scammer force you to act immediately (by a compelling fake story), you can ask for that code. Of course, you dont have to use it in your normal phone calls, and keep changing it after every incident.

Maybe they consider it as a marketing strategy by replying to each other in their own ANN thread. At least he does not try to hide the fact that he is part of the casino as what he shows publicly in his profile so I think he does it intentionally. Not quite sure if both accounts are handled by the same person though, but if both are handled by the same person then it is funny obviously. If both accounts are handled by 2 different person, I dont think it is that bad unless one of them act like a customer of the casino.

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Lol, the casino staff are talking with each other just to create the impression that gamblers are interested in this offer and people will follow the same. This tactic isn't going to work specially when you have pointed it out, otherwise i would have thought it was some random newbie but this one seems to be from the SunFireCasino.

By the way, if the casino offer is a good one and the casino is providing trusted & good services, they will automatically gain traffic or better they find legit methods of marketing like campaigns etc.

After checking anything in my side i discovered i'm currently using adguard dns. After i disabled it i can access the yahoo url redirected to 1win. Which means that url of 1win where blocked by adguard for some reason idk maybe it's just something like malware or spam ad or phishing site added on adguard block list.

It's not only Shishir99. The link given by yahoo search takes me to 1win too.


I just checked that website and couldn't find any referral links there.
The website doesn't even contain any links to betpanda.

I have hard time following what is happening here, and it would be much better if this topic was selfmoderated.
Maybe manager needs to pay attention on members staying on topic and writing more quality content.

I dont know what this is, but it has nothing to do with official betpanda website.
Maybe someone made it to share referal links, but other link you posted is for some diffeernt casino.

Probably it's a one time user url, and only works for you, just like session, see that random characters. Extension won't affect accessing any url, adblocker will show/redirect to their blocked page if there is, besides i don't use one, i'm on my mobile browse.

It shows the same website on google if you search using the url as keyword. Idk about that yahoo link it shows nothing but error.  I'm not familiar on yahoo page results but i guess it's a sponsored link shows on page results like google if adblocker is disabled, double check it.

I don't consider myself a "experienced gambler", since I don't gamble too much... But I also decline every single bonus offer that a casino throws at me. When I was starting, I thought it was an obvious no brainer to accept the "200% bonus". Who wouldn't want 2-3x of what you deposited??

But then I understood how wagering works, and at the end of the day I always lost 90% of my money or simply got too tired of having to strategize and do low stakes gambling to survive the 5x to 10x wagering requirement.

Nowadays I rather deposit, gamble a bit, take out what I want. Easy and no headaches.

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Passive incomes are areas young people should be focusing on when building a their financial strengths, things like buying of lands, buying of stocks or investing in bitcoin are areas we should be looking at now and not how be driving cars or building mansions. This is the mistake that most of us do including myself, investing more in the now than we should in the future which is more important. Once we have this money, the first thing that come to our mind is upgrading our phone or getting a new girlfriend to spend on.

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Keeping money in fiat is a total lose because inflation is always there affecting the value of fiat, their is no way you will be having fiat that you will be able to escape from inflation.

People with no understanding will always keep fiat in the bank thinking it is secure in their hands and they are also free from volatility seeing the figures of their money being the same not knowing money is just losing value without them knowing. No one who understand what fiat is and what bitcoin is will choose to keep fiat for a longtime because it is a total waste of money.

I hope I'm wrong, but most casinos set huge wagering requirements, so nobody gives a challenge to get. If they really want to reward users/gamblers, they are supposed to cut those requirements to become achievable and realistic. Unfortunately, they prefer to bring it that way so they can't spend money. Not really a good idea.

 And this is one reason why gamblers go away and find casinos that offer the same but have fewer requirements. In fact, those bonuses can't be withdrawn, which means that the casino still gets them and loses nothing.

You are free to adopt the vision you think suitable to protect as much privacy as possible. However it's worth mentioning that there only few No KYC casinos and they are not that trustworthy like centralized casinos. I don't want to play evil lawyer but I have to say that there are centralized casinos perfect running and professional operational team. The key to those trustworthy platforms is to give them part of your privacy which you can consider protection that give you the right to report to authorities in case of dispute.

You are already promoting a KYC casino in your signature, while you refuse to join casinos asking for your phone number.
Many people use third part services that gave them phone numbers to help verify their accounts but this is remain riskier more than giving the right personal number.

Even they allow users to do this, after registering your account and use virtual phone number for OTP 2FA, if users are experienced, they will change 2FA method from OTP to 2FA applications. This method is more secure and surely better than virtual phone number and OTP and people who choose OTP are either too unknowlegeable about security or too lazy for changes.

2FA applications are like all other softwares, have open source and close source softwares, and people should use open source 2FA like Aegis.
https://getaegis.app/

to be honest anything is better than holding paper money these days

If you are sensitive with your information yet it is, which is the reason why people avoid now using their mobile numbers because of the possible leak of their phone numbers and then use these numbers as a way to communicate to the owner, even with the SIM swap which is one of the common these days. Now there are some services offering a phone number can be use as alternative without using your real number could be good to use too but base on my ob servation recently for those casino they just require an email only for those advance kyc only applied with the phone and identity verification such as docs and facial.

Yeah, and there are hundreds of bots checking those numbers and trying to get a hold of the account you have created with that phone number.
There are sites that openly display the messages received to those free numbers and you can see bots battling on reset messages ever minute.



Google locks deleted emails, once you lose one for inactivity its gone forever, or at least that was the case a few years ago, you can't recover it even if you KYC and verify yourself till the first time your ancestors climbed down from a tree.