Kyc is very important as much as privacy is, and for this casino to make bold to say that they are never going to ask for kyc verification shows that their are indeed ready to take the privacy of their player's to the highest level of priority unlike some other casinos that proclaim no kyc casinos but could still ask you to verify your account in some cases, that is not a truly no kyc casinos in such actions.

Haven't played on 2UP casinos before, but I will surely try them out and to see what their terms of service clearly say about KYC demands.

Good luck, Fivestar4everMVP in trying to recover your login details and hope to get some bonuses to also try the site out.

Your points are valid here, but there is no avoiding KYC related conversations frankly speaking since there will always be some or another gambler talking about it in literally every crypto gambling site thread out there page after page since it's a highly debated topic.

Best you can do is ignore such posts and focus on what you actually want to post in any of those crypto gambling site threads plain and simple.

That’s right sometimes, just when we’ve finished discussing KYC, someone new will start asking about it. They could actually check our previous discussions, but on the other hand, I understand they just want a simple solution: asking directly, since they usually get the answer right away from other members.

There are many casinos on this forum, and discussions about KYC always tend to be quite lengthy. Especially when someone complains because they’ve been asked to complete KYC. And usually, these discussions start with users making accusations against the casino.

They should have a list of restricted nations and areas where their service is not available for locals to use.

Not sure why 2Up here?

Casinos, not only Dusbit, should do IP block automatically with people who are from restricted locations. I am not sure Dustbit does that or not, as they and other casinos can avoid a lot of complaints from users if they do automatic IP block.

Which casinos have IP blocks in place for restricted countries?

It's your assumption that does not base on anything.

I get your point but the same terms are used by all crypto casinos:

Rainbet -  4.1. You must not use the Service: 4.1.2. If you reside in a country in which access to online gambling to its residents or to any person within such country is prohibited.
Stake - Jurisdiction e) You are accessing stake.com from a jurisdiction in which it is legal to do so; f) You will not use our services while located in any jurisdiction that prohibits the placing and/or accepting of bets online and/or playing casino and/or live games;
Shuffle - 3.2. You may not register for a Shuffle Account if: b. You are residing or located in jurisdictions from which gambling or your use of the Services is not permitted. It is your responsibility to ensure that your use of the Services is lawful;

I hope you can still give us a try!

If you really wanted someone to consider removing a tag, you should probably stop commenting in this thread and keeping the issue hot. You just push push push and it'll get you nowhere man.

what's the question? It's backwards thinking. Holy made an accusation, now prove it.

It's same thinking that's been used for the last 2.5 years. A book makes an accusation and now they have to prove it. Cases take days. Instead holy negotiates months taking the books side and everyone has lost their winnings for 2.5years.

holy told players they had to prove their innocence. You and the books have to prove guilt. He posted a wall of lies because everything in there contain arguments where holy believed the reps.

It’s important to understand that when a reputable casino bans a user, there is usually a valid reason behind it. In most cases, it involves some form of abuse or fraud. Legitimate players rarely face bans without cause.

That said, the reality is that fraud is common in this industry, and casinos actively protect themselves. As a result, enforcement can sometimes appear strict but it's about a few users in reality.

From my experience working in the industry for many years, including with tier1 operators before founding Dustbit, the majority of users who encounter issues have committed some kind of fraud or abuse.

At its core, the casino business model is designed to be profitable, but long-term success depends on trust. The responsibility of any serious casino is to build a strong, reliable brand and provide an enjoyable and fair experience for players.

Unfortunately, the industry’s reputation has been negatively impacted by a minority of operators with poor practices or limited operational expertise.

The casino, the exchange, any other business platforms can and actually need to inform their users about reasons of a ban or any strict action against user account and its fund. It's best if a detailed and clear reason given at the time of ban execution or it's still acceptable if detailed ban reasons are given to user after user requests the company to give him explanation about the ban, at least about ban reasons.

However, it's different and most platforms don't share too details like how they detect the violation of that user, because it's their business secret to fight back against users who intentionally break their business ToS. If details given, scammers and cheaters will try to be more adaptive for future better exploitation against that platform.

We cannot avoid the KYC conversation, especially when there are new accounts asking whether the platform is actually implementing a No KYC policy and asking for member whether it is fully implemented or not.  But then, I guess the discussion about this will be minimized.

Anyway, has anyone read the terms of the $5 freebet?

Does the mechanism means during the duration of the $5freebet promotion, it will be returned if the bet does not win?  Meaning we can still use the freebet as long as we don't win until the date expires?  I have used my free bet for 2x both lost and still I have $5 freebet to claim.

This is very clear and well written.
With this I don’t ever expect any conversations on KYC to pop up again and that’s a very good competitive advantage and selling point incase one wants to invite a friend.

Both gambling addiction and drug addiction start with the mindset( the decision to engage in such situation) and for drugs that first intake might be the reason the body hormones react to the drugs and the urge for more becomes irrestible. After that stage it would be very difficult to quit because it's no more longer just a mental issue but but hormonal issues. Meanwhile gambling addiction is totally a mental problem( just the way the gambler thinks) irrespective of how deep they've been addicted. They can switch off addiction when they make their mind to quit it's just a matter of their perspective of what gamble is.

Wow, this is very interesting to know and also note down, I think this is possibly the first time I am coming across a casino representative making such a bold statement about not ever going to request kyc verification from any user, even going ahead to ask that they be punished ever any user has an issue with the casino and  it's kyc related, that shows that they are indeed committed to fulfilling their word and it's absolutely commendable..

Used to play on this casino but it's been a while, I will try to see if I still remember my login details as I might have to try out this casino again, would be amazing gambling here with confident knowing well that they are never going to ask for any personal documents for kyc verification, because my fear with unfamiliar casinos have always been in regards to winning and casino turning around to request a type of document I do not own for kyc verification..

Discussing too much about it is like derailing from the announcement thread and I agree with your suggestion. If anyone want, creating a new thread in service discussion for discussion on KYC at 2UP or casinos in general.

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About games at 2Up, anyone tried it yet?
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Casinos can ban you for any reason they want in reality, even the big one can do it, if you read all their terms they have 1000 sentences that allow them to ban you if they want. It's a matter of building trust, and this is where we are investing. Trust requires time to be earned.

When it develops into an addiction, it becomes scary because they'll do anything to get a little more money. I think drug addiction is scarier because they can't get by without a new fix, whereas a gambler can get by without gambling even if they don't have the money, they won't suffer withdrawal like a drug addict. But they'll still keep looking for money to gamble again, to win back their losses. So, you can't bet too much, because then you'll always be trying to win back your losses.

I understand what you mean. But I don't think you will be able to convince people with this statement.
The casino can really act badly if they want, and use this term to back them up. While you can allow players from that region, you do have the right to ban the player as well. So, why would a player take a risk to play on your platform, knowing that your terms include lines that say players are not allowed to play at your casino if their local laws do not allow it?

This is the only reason I won't dare to sign up and play at your casino. As I said, I probably signed up on other casinos without even realizing that I am not allowed to play there. Even though I never got banned, the situation could be bad if I were a high roller.

Hey guys, that’s not exactly how this works.

The clause refers to local laws as an additional protection for the company in cases where a user accesses the platform from a jurisdiction where gambling may be illegal locally, even if that jurisdiction is not listed as a restricted territory under our license. As you can imagine, this sits in something of a grey area.

From our perspective, in those cases the user may still be allowed to play under our licensing framework, but they need to understand that their own local laws may still apply to them. This is there primarily for both company protection and user awareness from a legal standpoint.

There are also jurisdictions that are technically permitted under our license, but may still have local gambling laws or restrictions that neither we nor the licensor are fully aware of. That is why this wording is included.

Those are great options imo, however some might see it taking the gambling industry to another level of replacing the role of exchange/swap platforms. However it can be better than the casinos lunching their own tokens to get more profit from the fluctuated market.

Personally speaking, I don't see any valid reason for a FIAT user to go with a crypto casino while he can exchange his money for crypto first. However with those anonymous (didn't try them yet) crypto debit cards, it becomes much easier. Maybe this is why plump chose to enforce KYC over them.

Yeah, they can pretty much come up at any moment, say you are from a restricted region, and we are terminating your account or pull up some other shit. It's annoying. So, knowing it beforehand would be the best approach here. It's better to know for sure than regret later (facing uncomfortable situations).

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Other medium might work, but your live chat feature isn't working. I can confirm that. I tried clicking that multiple times but nothing happened. So I thought I needed to be logged in to access this feature, which i did. But again, nothing happened.

I have also noticed that sometimes i would get stuck on the splash image page. It wouldn't move forward without me waiting couple of minutes or keep refreshing the tab.

This is what it looks like...it will keep on pulsing..

Its not new since nearly all casino will require KYC and this casino might be one of those enforcing KYC to fiat deposits. Usually crypto deposits don't require KYC that's why many people preferred to use crypto than those fiats.

Plump also write this on their TOS.


So that means KYC will be enforce anytime if they want to verify something.

Best for people to read their TOS https://plump.com/terms-and-conditions to avoid getting confuse on their rules.

It is not a question of requirement because FIAT option can't be done without knowing the user's identity. It has no sense to stipulate this in the TOS like it's an exception.

Likely gambling is banned in your country with physical casinos with casino offices for people to visit and play there while with online casinos, your government and corresponding authorities have yet taken severe actions to enforce gambling ban enough.

Even so, if you play at online casinos, you are breaking the national law and actually have legal risk.

If Dustbit confirmed about that, it's strong reminder that if you are from a country with national law ban against gambling, you are not allowed to create an account at Dustbit and play there, as well as you should not do that for your fund safety. It's easy to find the list of restricted nations, areas in the Dustbit's ToS and know that whether with your nationality, you are allowed to join Dustbit or not welcome there.

ভাই প্রেক্ষাপট অনুজায়ী আপনার কথাও ঠিক আছে আমি ব্যাক্তিগত ভাবে এখন বিটকয়েন রিলোড করে এই ধরনের কার্ড গুলো ব্যাবহার করি। অধিকাংশ শহরের একটু ভালো দোকান বা শহরের মধ্যে অধিকাংশ রেস্টুরেন্ট এর ও আমার কেনাকাটার বিল গুলো এখন বিটকয়েন রিলোড করে এই সকল কার্ড দিয়ে দিয়ে থাকি। আর  আমার ফোনে যেহেতু NFC সাপোর্ট করে তাই যেকোনো ভিসা পস থাকলেই পেমেন্ট করতে পারি। এটা আমি প্রাই ২বছরের বেশি সময় ধরে ব্যাবহার করে আসছি।

কিছু অশুবিধা আছে যেমন দেপোজিট করার সময় নেটোয়ার্ক ফি ছাড়াও ১% রিলোড ফী কাটে। কিন্তু আগোরা, সপ্ন, মিনা বাজার এগুলাতে পেমেন্ট করে অনেক সময় ১০-৩০% ছাড় পাওয়া যায়। এখানে একটু চালাকি করবেন আগে শপে ঢুকে দেখবেন কোন ব্যাংকের অফার চলতেছে সেই ব্যাংকের পস চাইবেন পেমেন্ট এর জন্যে। মাত্র $0.02 সেন্ট পেমেন্ট করেই ২লিটারের সেভেনাপ নিছি অনেকবার। 

আবার এমনও হয়েছে আমার সাথে যে ২০০০ টাকা পেমেন্ট করে বাসাতে আশছি পরে দেখছি ১৮০০ টাকা ব্যাক আসছে। বর্তমানে NFC সাপোর্টেড পেমেন্টে অধিকাংশ যায়গাতেই পেমেন্ট করলে ১০-১৫% ছাড় দিচ্ছে।

The color might not be the same but the games and sportsbook provider is the same as the previous 100 casinos.
BetBy casino and sportsbook...

Hopefully they give a clear answer to the regulatory authorities handling this case.

I’ve already reported this issue to the official regulatory body, Coljuegos (case number 20260128692), and I sent them everything I found technically related to the data breach and infrastructure risks.



This will be my final update on this matter. I trust in the ability of the relevant authorities to do what’s needed to keep players’ and companies’ data safe.

LOL, as I told their bounty manager before: I wouldn't even trust them to run a lemonade stand, let alone a Bitcoin casino infrastructure.   

AWS S3 buckets are insanely default private.  I'd say they don't have a specialist at all - you have to explicitly do steps to make them available to the public.