Yes, that’s correct. The key point is that the fee is based on withdrawal series, not the number of individual withdrawals. Multiple consecutive withdrawals without a deposit in between count as one series.
So if you make one deposit and then several withdrawals, those withdrawals are still part of the same series. Thanks for helping clarify this.

Okay thank you for drawing back my attention and now I understood what they are saying.. what I observed there is that they only permits the first / second withdrawal from their platform and whatever withdrawal that is requested after reaching the limit could either make more deposit and to pay off the 10% withdrawal fees. Although, I do not see any reason of constantly making withdrawal every day as if they reached their limits they could wait till the next day before they could initiate another withdrawal if they do not want to get involved with the fee aforementioned above.

It's not a bug, with hosemary case it's a bug because he did not make any withdrawal before getting that 10% fee information.

However about the 10% fee, in general it's a policy of Reels.io and you can see explanations from both TheAndy500 and Reels.io representative here. Just some posts above yours, it's explained as a policy and applied for series.

What is a series?

Okay, got it. Hosemary described it well here only with the update that the first series of withdrawals may start before the first deposit:


So basically, someone would have to have a really long gambling session to make so many deposits and withdrawals - and in such a specific combination - to reach the level where they hit that 10% fee. I have to say, that’s a pretty unusual rule, but I guess there must be a reason for it.

Not exactly. A deposit doesn’t reset the 24-hour period.
It separates withdrawals into different withdrawal series.
One or multiple consecutive withdrawals without a deposit in between count as one series. The first two series per day are free, and the 10% fee applies starting from the third series.

So if we make a deposit, the 24-hour period resets? In other words, the 10% fee for the third withdrawal starts counting either from the last deposit, or if there was no deposit, then simply the last 24 hours. Am I right?

Yes, exactly — it’s based on withdrawal series, not simply the number of withdrawals.
Just one small clarification: it’s not the third deposit itself that triggers the fee, but the third withdrawal series within the same day.
Multiple consecutive withdrawals without a deposit in between are counted as one series.

Registrations are open again.

We suffered an attack after someone was spam creating accounts so we had to close them temporarily.


Indeed we did change our stance a bit, I found myself defending things I didn't really believe. If there is some kind of malicious bug abuse we'll address it directly rather than using KYC.


Yes, we did indeed lower the fees for some withdrawal options. 

Yep, I was one of the stupid one’s. I hate these damn fringe sports, I always struggle with them. My opponent did not fall for this trap so that’s me on the back foot.

Courtesy tag for those who love free bets

Courtesy tag for those who love free bets

Heh, I see that quite a few went with Fuchse, probably not knowing that winners of the group play in the final, while 2nd placed are playing for 3rd spot. And since Fuchse lost vs Veszprem on Sunday, they finished 2nd in their group.

I was secretly hoping that hosemary will make that mistake, but I knew that it was a long shot since he pegs me for a guy that does a thorough research. 

He didn't have any funds because, as he wrote, he'd never made a deposit. Therefore, the information he saw was simply a bug.

There are some way to get free money without first deposit..  it can be Promo code, Free spin, or other no deposit promotional events. But don't know how hosemary actually got his fund without first deposit. ( Maybe i misunderstood thinking his fund is stuck)

From your screenshot I understood that if someone try to withdraw from an account without any deposit they will not get the free withdrawal feature but whenever someone makes a deposit the free withdrawal feature will be activated in their account. If this is true then this is not a bug it is a rule of their system.
Don’t they themselves know about this rule or bug? Instead of making the user go around for so long they could have simply said that free withdrawal will not be available without a deposit. They could have also mentioned in their notice that if you want to make a free withdrawal, you must make a deposit first.

Yeah, it must be a bug..

Your message without deposit:


I haven't made a withdrawal yet because I haven't had luck  , but I made a deposit some time ago and I don't have the message like yours:



Additionally, I have the option to buy crypto, but this option may also appear after making first deposit.

Reels.io should make a simple conditional check in the backend so that these messages are hidden and are not shown to users who have no deposit or withdrawal history. What surprises me the most is to hear that a user's funds have been stuck for so long because of a simple bug yet you still haven't provided any solution for it.

Instead of fixing the list they are telling the user to make another deposit so that it gets automatically solved, I honestly did not expect a response like this.

Yes, it looks like a bug in this case. Thanks for pointing it out, we’ll pass it to our technical team to check and fix.

Yes but i also have to be honest with you, i didnt see the Austria Kosovo game in live but when i saw the highlights i saw that Muriqui miss a clear goal for Kosovo at 5 minutes of the game, and that could have changed everything so maybe it was the fair thing that Kosovo goal despite it killed my chances.

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Now for this round i have some doubts in the strange sports and also in football im not super sure about my answers, not because of a porr research but because they are open for anything , i mean they are more like a coin in the air, everything could happen in each game selected.

I have a feeling there's been a major misunderstanding here.

The first two withdrawals are zero-fee.

@hosemary didn't make any deposit or withdrawal.

The information about a 10% fee appearing to him is a mistake – it's a bug on the website and should be fixed. (He can't make a withdrawal without a deposit - that's probably why the system got confused and shows this message.)

Furthermore, this information is clearly visible not only in their ToS but also in the withdrawal interface, so it's very transparent.

If someone doesn't want to pay the 10% fee on the third withdrawal, they can safely wait until the next day and withdraw without a fee.

That's weird and I really dislike it even I don't use this to call Reels.io is scam.

Why only (?) after making a deposit but not automatically disappear after a day passes. Like if today you make 2 withdrawals, with a third one you will get that notification and 10% fee but if you cancel the withdrawal, tomorrow or next days you can withdraw your fund with a normal withdrawal fee.

Requesting users to deposit just to get rid of that 10% withdrawal fee is like a scam. It's not 100% similar but double scam is like you must deposit more money to be approved with your current withdrawal request.

Thanks for calling my attention to this, I was trying to not get hacked, that's why I didn't click
Yea, I read it from the publication above and upto $7million was lost.

Interesting! So the person that claimed that the reason people use Trust wallet is that they believe that if anything happens to their funds, Binance will likely step in is not totally wrong.
There's actually a lot of money in this industry.

Thanks for the free bets, much appreciated.

 Just to mention that even if I was not playing /logging since awhile they have also saved my old balance of a few satoshi for all this time/releasing after contacting their customer email.... Promptly answers how it should be.
I have used this gambling platoforms even 10 years ago - they have always been the most reliable.

hosemary has it right — Fast & White pays out from our own reserves, not directly from any exchange account. "Straight from exchange reserves" was a clumsy way of putting it on our side. Beyond that, we don't disclose the technical specifics of how the reserves are managed.

nevermind, you're probably right, not sure how I understood it otherwise. 

Football is so funny, the goal you were praying so much for was something I didn't need to win last round but it came and ruined the round for me - ended with a draw.
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I'm doing well in LMS, I don't think I've ever survived beyond round 3 in the past - it's the easiest thing to win but I don't like staying in it for too long.

So, number one is that it should be non-custodial and secondly it should be open source? I read a documentary why Trust wallet moved from Open code to closed code because people were copying and cloning their code. I don't know if this is reason enough, but what I know is that TW has been around for a while and their hasn't been issue of hacks or scam.

Even if tens and hundreds of people claim they know how the key of a certain wallet is generated, there can still be issues just as the coldcard that has issue that existed for 5 years.

I like open source and encourage everyone to embrace it, but some close source wallets like TW are also good.

Ahhhh come on Ostereich or Austria whatever you call it, i need you to not allow a goal in your victory against Kosovo to take at least a draw against hosemary.

I ended up losing by one points, it was a very nice game between us, you deserve the victory. The volleyball question with the incredible lose of Italy and the Antonelli failure in qualyfication killed most of my chances.

Now i ahve to look for a fast recovery in the next round. At least im not out of the LMS.

I believe you almost failed to differentiate between a hot wallet and a desktop wallet, so I agree with Hosemary. Your comparison should be between either cold wallets and hot wallets, or mobile wallets and desktop wallets.As long as a wallet is on a device, whether desktop or mobile, that is connected to the internet, it is simply considered a hot wallet. Cold wallets should have no direct access to the internet. Transactions are signed separately and completely offline before they are broadcast to the network. And like Charles-Tim stated, a cold wallet is generally the better option for storing your coins because of its higher level of security. But this does not mean it is 100% safe from scams or attacks. There can still be device vulnerabilities that could lead to your wallet being compromised, and that may be completely out of your control.

There is also user error, which Charles mentioned. It is your responsibility to make sure your private keys are kept safe and completely out of reach of third parties. One common mistake people make is storing their keys on a device that is connected to the internet. If that device becomes infected with malware, hackers could potentially gain access to your keys and steal your coins.

There are many ways scammers and hackers can make you vulnerable, so it is better to follow good security practices from the beginning. Using a cold wallet to store your long term holdings is one of those practices. You can still use hot wallets, but I would avoid keeping large amounts of my investment in them. They are better suited for smaller amounts and everyday transactions when necessary.

Glad it arrived, and thanks for the patience. Saving the Order ID and PGP confirmation is exactly the right habit — it makes any follow-up much quicker.



We looked at it again and decided not to add a tooltip to Chain after all — so here's the explanation instead. The Fast & White tooltip describes what's specific to that mode: coins come straight from exchange reserves, with no tag at all. In Chain, coins pass through a bridge, so some AML checkers may show a bridge tag (often marked yellow). That's just a record of the route, not a sign of dirty coins, and exchanges accept them normally.

Yeah, and this question has come up quite a few times since the name was changed to 'Fast and White'. Just like dex.fo_off has maintained, the only difference between both modes is that F & W is exchange-sourced and strsight from their reserves, while Chain Mode is routed through third-parties, but doesn't make the coins 'dirty'. This is the post that brought the update, in case you want to follow it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5580629.msg67107481#msg67107481

A suggestion was also made to add a similar tooltip to Chain Mode as well, and dex.fo_off admitted it was a good suggestion, so i guess it is something they might get around to do: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5580629.msg67123792#msg67123792

Afaik, Yandex won the tournament so you were actually right about that one.

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Team Rikafip started Season 10 with a win, but after two losses in a row situation doesn't look too good, and some changes will be needed. I could have used the cup break, but instead my next opponent is hosemary and I don't expect an easy game.
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Thanks for figuring that out, the default selected mode is chain mode nor the Fast and White mode I've edited my that post, but the ones who prefer high privacy will most probably choose Fast and White mode over it. So yes both modes are usable and do the job properly but personally I think choosing Fast and White mode is a better choice for majority of users because the coins that one receive via that mode are low in AML because such swap is completed from the reserves and as the name shows the coins will always be acceoptable on every other platform because of their low AML score.

Thanks for the answer, mate. It seems I've lost my focus because I'm preparing teaching materials for school today. Well, after double checking, it turns out everything is running correctly, there's no error.


Yeah, you're right. I have given my response above, huft...

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25$ Free bets this week awarded to:
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Thank you all for a good week

Luckily for my team - no sleep in BSFL. First thing I did after suffering one of the biggest defeats in club's history is to look at the fixtures list.
ralle14 - sorry buddy but you're going down. There's simply too much anger among my players for anything other than a clean victory.

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The questions for Round 4 are here!

The deadline is Tuesday September 29th, 17:00 GMT (forum time).

Nations League again, this time complemented by NHL, handball and WRC. Enjoy

Round 4 - Scheduling

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Division 1 slaman29 vs crowolf Trofo vs Renato297 Spack17 vs icopress goodpunt vs Saint-loup cryptofrka vs ralle14 vd309 vs jayce el che vs Jinetics1111 darxiaomi vs ulven hosemary vs Rikafip	Division 2 VashaUdacha777 vs leea-1334 Igebotz vs Harkorede MAAManda vs arallmuus slackovic vs paco92x Hhampuz vs mv1986 notblox1 vs HomieAllDay LTU_btc vs vivekdkhyani chi20 vs strongkored buwaytress vs imarios	Division 3 Kokee44 vs Ozymandias_DZ mitchr4 vs Dittoup Heyshbosh vs LFC_Bitcoin Nheer vs Smartvirus entebah vs B1g4udge russeras vs Ochan_yazo_tochant cygan vs hakan2217 General_Bitcoin vs ajanwalker EarnOnVictor vs Koal-84	Division 4 BABY SHOES vs Asiska02 Bitcoin Smith vs pina_pino Zaguru12 vs Rruchi man Daniel91 vs jeremypwr yassinmanai vs welovebit Da_Silva vs xLays red4slash vs un_rank Bitcoin_Budha vs ovcijisir Dump3er vs Ryu_Ar1

Division 1

•POS•	••Username••••	•PLD•	•W•	•D•	•L•	•SF•	•SA•	•SD•	•PTS•
1	Trofo	2	2	0	0	12	6	6	6
2	cryptofrka	2	2	0	0	9	5	4	6
3	slaman29	2	2	0	0	9	5	4	6
4	goodpunt	2	2	0	0	7	4	3	6
5	Saint-loup	2	2	0	0	9	7	2	6
6	darxiaomi	2	1	0	1	7	6	1	3
7	crowolf	2	1	0	1	9	9	0	3
8	ralle14	2	1	0	1	8	8	0	3
9	hosemary	2	1	0	1	6	6	0	3
10	Rikafip	2	1	0	1	9	10	-1	3
11	jayce	2	1	0	1	9	10	-1	3
12	el che	2	1	0	1	8	9	-1	3
13	Spack17	2	0	1	1	8	9	-1	1
14	Jinetics1111	2	0	1	1	6	9	-3	1
15	icopress	2	0	0	2	8	10	-2	0
16	Renato297	2	0	0	2	7	9	-2	0
17	vd309	2	0	0	2	7	10	-3	0
18	ulven	2	0	0	2	5	11	-6	0

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Division 2

•POS•	••Username••••	•PLD•	•W•	•D•	•L•	•SF•	•SA•	•SD•	•PTS•
1	buwaytress	2	2	0	0	9	3	6	6
2	imarios	2	2	0	0	8	3	5	6
3	Harkorede	2	2	0	0	11	7	4	6
4	VashaUdacha777	2	1	1	0	12	9	3	4
5	Igebotz	2	1	1	0	9	7	2	4
6	mv1986	2	1	1	0	9	8	1	4
7	LTU_btc	2	1	1	0	7	6	1	4
8	leea-1334	2	1	0	1	6	4	2	3
9	arallmuus	2	1	0	1	7	6	1	3
10	slackovic	2	1	0	1	7	7	0	3
11	MAAManda	2	1	0	1	5	7	-2	3
12	chi20	2	0	1	1	7	8	-1	1
13	Hhampuz	2	0	1	1	5	7	-2	1
14	notblox1	2	0	1	1	5	7	-2	1
15	strongkored	2	0	1	1	7	11	-4	1
16	vivekdkhyani	2	0	0	2	7	11	-4	0
17	HomieAllDay	2	0	0	2	6	11	-5	0
18	paco92x	2	0	0	2	4	9	-5	0

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Division 3

•POS•	••Username••••	•PLD•	•W•	•D•	•L•	•SF•	•SA•	•SD•	•PTS•
1	cygan	2	1	1	0	8	4	4	4
2	Kokee44	2	1	1	0	9	6	3	4
3	General_Bitcoin	2	1	1	0	8	5	3	4
4	Dittoup	2	1	1	0	7	4	3	4
5	Koal-84	2	1	1	0	9	7	2	4
6	Heyshbosh	2	1	1	0	8	7	1	4
7	EarnOnVictor	2	1	0	1	9	8	1	3
8	LFC_Bitcoin	2	1	0	1	8	8	0	3
9	Ozymandias_DZ	2	1	0	1	7	7	0	3
10	B1g4udge	2	1	0	1	8	10	-2	3
11	russeras	2	1	0	1	6	8	-2	3
12	ajanwalker	2	0	2	0	6	6	0	2
13	mitchr4	2	0	2	0	4	4	0	2
14	hakan2217	2	0	1	1	7	8	-1	1
15	Smartvirus	2	0	1	1	5	6	-1	1
16	Nheer	2	0	1	1	7	10	-3	1
17	Ochan_yazo_tochant	2	0	1	1	4	7	-3	1
18	entebah	2	0	0	2	6	11	-5	0

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Division 4

•POS•	••Username••••	•PLD•	•W•	•D•	•L•	•SF•	•SA•	•SD•	•PTS•
1	Bitcoin_Budha	2	2	0	0	7	0	7	6
2	Asiska02	2	2	0	0	10	4	6	6
3	Da_Silva	2	1	1	0	9	6	3	4
4	Bitcoin Smith	2	1	1	0	7	4	3	4
5	pina_pino	2	1	1	0	6	3	3	4
6	Zaguru12	2	1	1	0	8	6	2	4
7	welovebit	2	1	1	0	8	7	1	4
8	Daniel91	2	1	0	1	9	9	0	3
9	BABY SHOES	2	1	0	1	8	8	0	3
10	Ryu_Ar1	2	0	2	0	6	6	0	2
11	xLays	2	0	2	0	5	5	0	2
12	Dump3er	2	1	0	1	5	6	-1	2
13	Rruchi man	2	0	1	1	6	9	-3	1
14	red4slash	2	0	1	1	6	10	-4	1
15	un_rank	2	0	0	2	6	9	-3	0
16	yassinmanai	2	0	1	1	2	5	-3	0
17	ovcijisir	2	0	0	2	6	11	-5	0
18	jeremypwr	2	0	0	2	2	8	-6	-1

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W - Games Won, L - Games Lost, D - Games Drawn
POS - League Position, SD - Score Difference, SF - Score For
SA - Score Against, PLD - Games Played, PTS - Points Earned

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Round 3- Results

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Division 1 crowolf 3-6 Renato297 icopress 2-4 slaman29 Saint-loup 3-7 Trofo ralle14 5-3 Spack17 jayce 2-3 goodpunt Jinetics1111 7-2 cryptofrka ulven 4-4 vd309 Rikafip 4-5 el che hosemary 5-4 darxiaomi	Division 2 leea-1334 4-4 Harkorede arallmuus 4-2 VashaUdacha777 paco92x 5-5 Igebotz mv1986 6-5 MAAManda HomieAllDay 6-3 slackovic vivekdkhyani 6-4 Hhampuz strongkored 3-6 notblox1 imarios 3-4 LTU_btc buwaytress 2-6 chi20	Division 3 Ozymandias_DZ 3-0 Dittoup LFC_Bitcoin 5-1 Kokee44 Smartvirus 6-2 mitchr4 B1g4udge 3-7 Heyshbosh Ochan_yazo_tochant 3-7 Nheer hakan2217 4-4 entebah ajanwalker 3-5 russeras Koal-84 6-3 cygan EarnOnVictor 4-5 General_Bitcoin	Division 4 Asiska02 3-6 pina_pino Rruchi man 0-3 BABY SHOES jeremypwr 0-3 Bitcoin Smith welovebit 6-4 Zaguru12 xLays 7-3 Daniel91 un_rank 3-0 yassinmanai ovcijisir 1-6 Da_Silva Ryu_Ar1 2-4 red4slash Dump3er 6-6 Bitcoin_Budha

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It is a big hit on them and coming back is a big step for them though once they are able to go pass this phase and things goes back to normal, people will still make use of their platform. there will certainly be people that will not trust them any longer and some will have to wait much longer to decide if they are worth dealing with. at the end, it is how well they are able to deal wit this faulty reputation bridge that matters most.

Also for the hacking issue they experience before, this one is a great indicator that people should erase the thoughts for making it as their cold wallets. Because they might just going to waste their funds if they might get compromised by another hacking issue again.

If their goal is to create a cold storage much ideal thing to use are the air gapped wallet since aside that they can personally protect it, they can also isolate their keys for possible online attack.

So they must careful choosing the right wallet. Since its hard to trust those wallet saying they are non custodial, while the fact their current state is questionable.

Thanks both for testing on different setups — and the ad blocker angle is a useful pointer for anyone still hitting "Verification failed".


That's right — Chain is the default because it's the mode most people use. Fast & White is there for those who specifically need it.

The part where is got me shocked the most you said there is no proof that you are the only owners of your seedphrase that should be a good worry for user that are using rust wallet….now it so interesting that trust wallet calls itself non-custodial and now your seed stays on your phone that part can not be correct… well i really don’t no such much about wallet but from my little knowledge a good wallet should make use of open source, audited not just your kind of random generations

In my head I could not even want to think of such by trusting the company not to copy, leak, or weaken your keys.

Trust wallet can no longer be trusted. I am wondering if it is now a mini exchange wallet or what because the rate at which they upgrade with new trading features is becoming inconveniencing. They have buy and sell features and have gone as far as having a prediction market on the app which gives me thought if truly holders of such wallet really have their assets well secured because as far as I know they having such numerous features speaks of volume because they possibly have access to key's and wallet information.

I received same email from both brands

So our email are leaked 100%

Now they mention hacker may have our account details, the question is if that is limited to username/crypto transactions or includes personal data as well

Can you re-read this comment to understand if really it does make sense for users consumption? You are out of out of the line, I didn't come here to argue with anyone but to learn and to educate when learned. So if you have known, instead educate others.
I have deposited and used the deposit to bet today's matches and also play some slot games of coin flip other games.





I have claimed some bonuses though it is very small but as a gambler it is still worthy.

Lolz. All good. I am out of sMerit. You deserve some drop 💧. I just have made my deposit in Jackpotter and wager and stake there. I am strongly believing that Spain will beat England but there is no guarantee on that match and other Africa qualifiers matches. Let see if I can have some good results.

Update:
DT 1
     1. 203: HostFat (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (0) 311 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 11425: gmaxwell (Trust: +13 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (19) 10537 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 24140: qwk (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (12) 2549 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 33156: vapourminer (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 5841 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 51173: mprep (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 1769 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 64507: philipma1957 (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 11497 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 65636: babo (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 4818 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 78147: Cyrus (Trust: +22 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (23) 2899 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 84521: Welsh (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (23) 3685 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 84866: ibminer (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (13) 2794 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 85033: d5000 (Trust:  neutral) (DT1! (4) 10160 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. 97582: joker_josue (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (10) 6991 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. 112493: Pmalek (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 9043 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. 123824: albon (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 2204 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. 137185: jeremypwr (Trust: +55 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (14) 6291 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. 140582: gbianchi (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 2655 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. 140584: EFS (Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 2208 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. 145841: Swordsoffreedom (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 234 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. 158444: hybridsole (Trust: +20 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 513 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. 164749: stompix (Trust:  neutral) (DT1! (14) 6876 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. 164822: hilariousandco (Trust: +26 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (37) 1957 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. 204821: Buchi-88 (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 2391 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. 216582: willi9974 (Trust: +49 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 2990 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. 252510: JayJuanGee (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (23) 14016 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. 257071: NeuroticFish (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 6277 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. 290195: achow101 (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (12) 6818 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    27. 300014: DaveF (Trust: +33 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (18) 7036 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    28. 314792: examplens (Trust: +8 / =5 / -0) (DT1! (27) 3991 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    29. 317618: nutildah (Trust: +20 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (32) 10884 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    30. 350580: irfan_pak10 (Trust: +14 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (3) 787 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    31. 355846: yahoo62278 (Trust: +41 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (27) 4517 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    32. 364070: bitbollo (Trust: +17 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 4057 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    33. 369212: zazarb (Trust: +27 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 549 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    34. 379147: pooya87 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 11557 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    35. 379487: LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (24) 12254 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    36. 395806: o_solo_miner (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 541 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    37. 405464: mocacinno (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 4541 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    38. 405482: Real-Duke (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 2958 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    39. 407174: klarki (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 4760 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    40. 487418: The Sceptical Chymist (Trust: +30 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (32) 6381 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    41. 521899: SFR10 (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 3166 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    42. 533583: Lucius (Trust:  neutral) (DT1! (2) 6793 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    43. 557798: TryNinja (Trust: +12 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (13) 10556 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    44. 754818: holydarkness (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 1430 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    45. 830967: tweetious (Trust: +33 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 459 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    46. 839568: AakZaki (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2290 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    47. 889300: giammangiato (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1520 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    48. 901859: buwaytress (Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 4007 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    49. 914465: crwth (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (0) 1375 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    50. 932931: Ale88 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 3744 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    51. 949248: Kryptowerk (Trust: +49 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 1350 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    52. 995810: hosemary (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 7076 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    53. 1016855: JollyGood (Trust: +18 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (23) 2082 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    54. 1045971: igebotz (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (12) 2357 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    55. 1051955: roycilik (Trust: +11 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (2) 1908 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    56. 1052091: CryptopreneurBrainboss (Trust: +18 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 5177 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    57. 1059082: hugeblack (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 4689 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    58. 1097370: KTChampions (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 2386 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    59. 1099980: Trofo (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (14) 3839 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    60. 1137579: icopress (Trust: +89 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (41) 13446 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    61. 1190631: JeromeTash (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1499 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    62. 1247226: logfiles (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (13) 2403 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    63. 1269497: Bitcoin_Arena (Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (7) 2116 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    64. 1311641: tvplus006 (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (16) 2676 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    65. 1424178: mole0815 (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 3694 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    66. 1554927: bitmover (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 7761 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    67. 1582324: DdmrDdmr (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (22) 11381 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    68. 1634314: shahzadafzal (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 3541 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    69. 1724800: Lakai01 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 4346 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    70. 1825672: morvillz7z (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (14) 2224 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    71. 1827294: Husna QA (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 3537 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    72. 1836948: Bthd (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (4) 2626 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    73. 1852120: fillippone (Trust: +12 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (23) 21486 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    74. 1862043: cryptofrka (Trust: +19 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 3229 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    75. 1878246: abhiseshakana (Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (2) 2628 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    76. 1980983: The Cryptovator (Trust: +20 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (25) 2613 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    77. 1982152: lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +27 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (33) 5865 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    78. 2003859: DireWolfM14 (Trust: +21 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (21) 5853 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    79. 2344286: Little Mouse (Trust: +47 / =2 / -1) (DT1! (5) 3826 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    80. 2363935: YOSHIE (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (22) 1913 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    81. 2477002: inspace (Trust: +4 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (1) 1730 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    82. 2497429: jokers10 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 4197 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    83. 2519096: Awaklara (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 862 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    84. 2652924: geophphreigh (Trust: +33 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1146 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    85. 2654005: zasad@ (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (8) 5827 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    86. 2658890: Rikafip (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (29) 8371 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    87. 2739424: NotATether (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (9) 10323 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    88. 2739454: Stalker22 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 1655 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    89. 2744352: bullrun2024bro (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 5396 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    90. 2745549: decodx (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 1000 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    91. 2775483: BlackHatCoiner (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 10120 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    92. 2776678: Charles-Tim (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 6542 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    93. 2796662: Lillominato89 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1305 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    94. 2836461: Free Market Capitalist (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (14) 3651 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    95. 3442614: YodasRedRocket (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 651 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    96. 3558380: Mia Chloe (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 2292 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)

DT 2
     1. 3: satoshi (Trust: +41 / =0 / -0) (8893 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 4: sirius (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (935 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 35: theymos (Trust: +32 / =0 / -0) (15135 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 1268: nanotube (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 2252: laanwj (Trust:  neutral) (50 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 2676: casascius (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (193 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 2759: midnightmagic (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (27 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 2786: Pieter Wuille (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (203 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 3380: Vladimir (Trust:  neutral) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 3420: dooglus (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (335 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 4171: Raize (Trust:  neutral) (24 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)

It's pretty obvious that Trustwallet is completely closed source, and while we can generate random Private Keys,
there's no guarantee that the generated Private Key will be deleted or stored on Trustwallet's servers, no one knows.

It's different if we say an Open Source wallet like Electrum, which everyone can really see
how the wallet and private keys are generated and what updates happen in great detail on the GitHub repository.

With walletscrutiny.com, it's possible to see Trust wallet as no source
https://walletscrutiny.com/?platform=allPlatforms&page=0&query-string=Trust
https://walletscrutiny.com/mobile/com.wallet.crypto.trustapp/

Since there are non custodial wallet like the trust wallet that is not trustworthy, it is better for this to be preached just the way the custodial wallet is being talked about. If anything happens in the future with non-custodial wallet like Trustwallet that is not trustworthy, it can affect the reputation of other non-custodial wallet. This can make people not to trust self-custody.

Agbe, I urge you to do better next time. What we say about people's business is weighty. I have started reading what people are saying, and your replies from the bottom to the top, and I see that yours are not coherent at all, which means you are not sure, but why say anything? This Jackpotter's bonus buying is a creative initiative that has never happened before in any crypto casino, and it just started recently. You can see that its announcement here was just days ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5560299.msg67165217#msg67165217. If a casino is paying well, will the bonus marketplace that took no direct money from them be an issue?

Did I say the complains were from Jackpotter? I said, I have seen complains of people on the buy bonus and I was not referring to Jackpotter but were comments I saw and it was hosemary narrow it to Jackpotter. Go and read my first comment. As for the Gambling, I am not a chronic gambler. And as I said, I started gambling as I joined this forum. I don't have to tell you my gambling habit to prove a right. But you can see this but yourself.


This images are from Stake which you said, I am not gambling. There are other casinos too both locally too.

You don't know me, I don't know you. We have different educational level. If you don't understand someone syntax, that person posts does not make sense. Please I was not taking about Jackpotter. I wanted to reply hosemaryon this point but I just left because it became a discussion foe us. I have educated and contributed to posts.

Agbe is one of those accounts that posts a lot and doesn't always read or make sense. In fact, I'm not even sure he even gambles at Jackpotter or anywhere. Now he's trying to cover up and failing

I'm not even sure he gambles at Stake. There's something about these guys using that sig

If that's the case I don't think I am conversant with any of the site he mentioned. However based on the fact that it's not a question that is directly related to this forum then I guess this post should be moved to the beginners and help board even if it's a case like I was assuming initially.

I think the moderator hasn't moved it to the B&H section because they are thinking it's a meta question based off the title. Thanks for the heads up.

I believed I have seen comments on the buy bonus which o don't like but I can't really recall those threads and I just made search and I got this. Though it is not a pure complain thread but some comments are not pleasant for me concerning the buy bonus. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5530193.0

As for the minimum deposit, I will check your direction but when I wanted to deposit in the first time , I didn't see it. Because all my believed was if a gambler click o. The deposit and the address shows up, the minimum deposit amount display there too. Though not all casinos do that.

I think its duelbits.com mentioned about the maintenance.



When I read Joe's tweet I felt their gonna handled this. The way he speak sound composed and relax like a solution is coming up fast.

But thats right. $7mil is something anyone will definitely worried about even though they got more than that.

This is the Duelbits mirror site I'm referring to.

duelbits.net - maintenance
duelbits.io - Still accessible from my side
sportsbits.com - Still accessible from my side

This is actually no clear confirmation yet, right?
Whether the domain we mentioned is official or not.

Cashing out the bets, not withdrawals

   And you made me loss everytime i asked.. you've contributed 85% of my Bsfl downfall .


That's why I didn't want to ask this round as I'm playing against a familiar @buwaytress and It's a must win.

I don't think there's anything to worry about. To add to what others have said most of these softwares are kinda backwards compatible in that they can actually understand older scripts and seed formats. It's same reason why a regular legacy wallet from back in the day can be used with zero issues today.

There are a few sites I've seen that do this and even support SLIP39  but I wouldn't advise anyone to use them though regardless of the fact you're gonna run it offline.

Blame chi20, he's usually the one that reminds me

Unlocked now, feel free to feed it to the AI. I'll end up as the best player the league has ever seen in all queries.