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1. Post 65543398 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Thu Jul 3 03:49:55 CEST 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:
Samson Mow must be the biggest bull cunt out there with $1 million BTC in Q4.
Even more ridiculous than that other cunt Plan B $400,000.
I have a hard time criticizing guys for being overly bullish, even though I do understand that some normies can end up being damaged through their overly reliance on such overly bullish claims - yet at the same time, there might be some projection that is not even Mow's exact words since even if he might not continuously use qualifiers, there may be implied qualifiers..
Last cycle, right around the top, I proclaimed that the odds were slightly higher for more UP rather than down, meaning even
as of December 16, 2021, which was within weeks of the top, I had pretty much assigned 45% odds for down and 55% odds for UP, and also I had assigned something like 2%-ish odds for $1 million or higher.. which likely means that I would assign greater that 1% odds to $1million or higher for this cycle.. and yeah, I have not honed in on my exact numbers, yet i doubt that they would be even close to as high as Mow's numbers..
Even though I ended up being quite wrong in late 2021, since t$69k ended up being the top, and my numbers seem a bit whimsical after the fact, no one really wanted to take the other side of my numbers, and really I did not see anyone attempting to assign any granularity to their proposed BTC price direction proclamations... even though Phil was sure as fuck we were going above $70k.. and he beat that one to death, even though it might not have actually been bettable, even though he ended up bing wrong with his seemingly high level of proclamations.
I am starting to wonder if Mow considers the odds for $1 million before the end of 2025 to be greater than 50%, since that would make it bettable. and I have not heard about him entering into any bets on the topic.
I am currently thinking less than 10% for greater than $1 million for this cycle, and I sometimes get the sense that I have been overly beaten if I am even pondering 5%-ish odds for greater than $1 million for this cycle and I admit that might be overly bearish.. but 5% is still quite a bit higher than a lot of folks would assign for greater than $1 million bitcoin for this cycle and it is really ONLY a 9x.. so that is not really that grandeur when it comes to bitcoin.... yet, maybe I should say that even if I were to be considering odds of greater than 10% for our touching upon $1 million this cycle, the that still seems like that there is enough room to bet against someone who seems to be suggesting greater than 50/50 odds for $1 million before the end of 2025. . Let's say, if I were feeling really bullish, then I might be going as high as 10% or maybe even 15% for my acceptance that we could hit $1million in this cycle or even by the end of 2025, yet that also seems bettable for me to take the other side of a Mow bet, especially if he might just be going slightly higher than 50/50 odds on his side of the bet. It is funny that ther3e is no outstanding bet given how frequently I hear Mow talking about $1million bitcoin, and he seemed to have have said it several times already for earlier timelines, so he is already used to being wrong.. but perhaps still hoping that sooner or later, he will be correct and he will be able to say "I told you so... .I just didn't know when, exactly," which seems like almost a fair position for him to take.
By the way, we also know that it does not really take that much money to move the bitcoin market, so it is not like we need $18 trillion to come into bitcoin in order for bitcoin to move up in its market cap from $2 trillion (currently) to right around $20 trillion, which is what it would be at right around $1 million per coin.
I know they blocked everything from crypto's before not allowing transfers incoming from exchanges etc
Its the classic first they laugh/ignore you, now they join you situation.
Your link is behind a pay wall
It sounds like they only want to earn from Bitcoin buyers, so I'm curious if they're still not allowing transfers from exchanges. Large corporations taking control of people's private keys and selling them "an account" isn't really the kind of adoption I was hoping for.
Banks have no morals, they do anything to earn more money. Remember the massive fines for facilitating money laundering (not related to crypto)? They only started checking more because they got fined.Anyone who believes that banks want Bitcoin because of what it represents in its core idea is either crazy or doesn't understand how the system works. Banks were created so that a very narrow group of people could control everyone else and make extra profits - and even today we see that politics and banks are two wings of the same body.
In addition, as you say, they are the biggest money launderers in the world, and on the other hand, I believe that banks are among the biggest sponsors of attacks on Bitcoin, whether it is that BTC mining causes climate change, or that it consumes too much electricity, so we will remain in the dark - and of course only criminals, terrorists and generally those who want to hide something work with BTC.
When they didn't manage to destroy the whole thing or marginalize it enough to slowly disappear in the wasteland of the internet, they decided on another tactic. The goal is obviously to profit from BTC as much as possible, while at the same time moving as many people away from the idea that it is the currency they should use.
Is it realistic to speculate that by the end of this decade maybe even 50% of all BTC will be in the possession of various ETFs, individuals like Saylor and others like him and maybe even central banks? Someone may not see too much of a problem in this, but since BTC spot ETFs were approved in the US, large companies like BlackRock have become very interested in BTC mining companies in which they have already acquired significant stakes.
I'm just curious if all this is purely for profit, or if there's an idea behind it to try to centralize Bitcoin to some extent. It should not be forgotten that BlackRock once announced that in the case of a hard fork, they reserve the right to follow the chain they consider better, not necessarily the one chosen by the majority of the community.
Even though you make a lot of good points Lucius, I consider you to be overly bearish and hopefully you are not overly hedging against bitcoin based on your views that the seem to presume that status quo institutions have as much power as you are making them out to have. I believe that they are going to try many of the things that you suggest, and if they are not able to do such things overtly, they will strive to do them covertly. I just doubt that they are going to have as much success as you seem to be presuming them to have a bit of a cake-walk with bitcoin, when the fact of the matter is that they going to have to learn some much better ways to fuck people over, since I am going to suggest that from time to time, there are going to be enough folks holding their private keys and transacting privately that will help to bring some honesty, even though the BIG player crooks will continue to crook in their various ways.
Seeing green plants will make you feel calm and fresh, especially if you see the condition of
Bitcoin which is always green. 
Except when it is not.
Just sideways some more.
Well sideways with a slight lift works for me.
Now if we can do it longer maybe I will get ready for up.
I am not convinced.
Being ready for UP does not just happen.. being ready for up is a process that involves conviction and historical action that may well take years and years and years to develop the conviction and to act upon such conviction over and over and over.
Even if you are not quite ready for UP, it is still better to be a low coiner rather than a no coiner, so at least you seem to have that low coiner thingie-ma-jiggie going for you. It could be worse. There are like 99% of the world's population who are still no coiners (it could be slightly less than 99%, but I have my doubts), and some of them are even on this forum and come to threads like this one.. so at least you are not one of those no coiner guys.
2. Post 65543370 (unedited backup) (by PowerGlove) (scraped on Thu Jul 3 03:02:25 CEST 2025) in Little things that bug you/me about the forum:
Would it be possible to make something other than the title clickable? Say the post number, the date, or even the "/"?
Nice one. I'll likely work on that (at some point).
What's going on there is that Symmetrick edited the subject into the Unicode character U+3164 ("Hangul Filler"). I quickly parsed the UCD XML
file (for Unicode 16.0.0) and found ~406 other characters that will cause that same kind of (browser dependent) nothing-to-click problem. This is more of a note to myself than to you, but, to prevent that kind of "blank" subject from being possible in the first place, I suppose I should write a
stripInvisible function (to filter out those ~407 "default ignorable" characters) along with a beefed-up
trim function (to gobble up all ~25 kinds of whitespace from both ends of a string). That way, blank-but-not-empty subjects won't sneak past the minimum-length check. Probably, almost all of the ~65 Unicode control characters have no business being in subjects, either. I'm not sure about the ~170 formatting characters (though, I think ~138 of those would be caught anyway by the hypothetical
stripInvisible function).
Hmm... I just tired myself out thinking about how I'm going to shoehorn all of that (or its whitelist inverse) into SMF's strange and inconsistent text-handling story; Imma rest my eyes for
just a minute, m'kay?
* PowerGlove dozes off...
About the interesting discussion on the previous page: I have thoughts, but, as usual, they're complicated, and it will take time for me to try to distill them into something readable...
I guess, one thought that I'm ready to share now is that I don't see how someone could be
for self-moderated threads but
against merit-restricted threads. As in, if you resent the idea that the thread-starter should have the power to limit merit-sending, then you should
really resent the idea that the thread-starter should have the power to limit
discussion.
I recently found this post by OgNasty (who I think is just about the biggest plonker that I've ever bumped into, but, even grade-A dingleberries occasionally have good thoughts):
Perhaps another idea is for some sort of list of deleted posts at the bottom of self moderated threads so that if people want to read what has been deleted, they have the option.
If it were up to me, I think I'd get rid of the self-moderation feature completely, but, failing that, I think something like what OgNasty is suggesting makes a lot of sense...
I think what I'd do is adjust the self-moderation notice from currently looking like this (and only being at the top of the page):
To looking like this (and being at the bottom of the page, too):
(The important change is that the "44 posts" part is now a link which will take you to a view of the deleted posts.)
There's also this idea from suchmoon:
It's allowed for topic-starters to delete all replies to their self-mod topics. Restoring the posts would only be considered in special cases such as if their account had been hacked.
Also, if a topic has no more replies, moderators will typically delete the topic on request, since then there isn't the issue of deleting other people's replies. That's why the empty topics were not restored.
It's just that he trashed a bunch of threads out of spite or mental breakdown or whatever that was, not because of anything related to the threads themselves. That's why I think it's abuse of a forum feature/privilege.
Perhaps there should be a time limit on self mod. I can't think of a good reason to delete posts months later.
I agree with that... I too can't think of a
good reason to allow a self-moderating topic-starter to delete another user's posts a long time after they were written. (Unless, maybe, the topic-starter has returned after a long break from the forum, or something. I guess, accounting for that would be simple enough, but, it's the kind of band-aid-on-band-aid logic that quickly leads me back around to thinking that the whole self-moderation feature should never have been implemented in the first place. In fact, if it
didn't currently exist, and it only now came up as a new suggestion in this thread, I'm pretty sure that almost everyone would hiss at the idea.)
3. Post 65543019 (unedited backup) (by PX-Z) (scraped on Thu Jul 3 00:01:07 CEST 2025) in A Sad Day for Physical Bitcoin Collectors:
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you are hitting the wrong community and the wrong people with the hope that we will all believe you!
if it really was you, then you would have immediately provided other proofs/informations with your post that would immediately and 100% back up your refund
unfortunately your scam attempt will not succeed here
Based on loycev's
provided address, of bch and its forks, there's no transaction made, that the coins were returned back, so yeah, this is just a scam attempt.
4. Post 65542940 (unedited backup) (by dkbit98) (scraped on Wed Jul 2 23:38:07 CEST 2025) in 🍕 Bitcoin Pizza Day on Bitcointalk:
What is the probability that, given 144 pizza options, 5 users from one local section vote for 5 identical pizzas, placing votes in the same order?
I didn't examine exact time when they all posted, but it's unlikely to happen if they posted exactly the same votes in totally different time.
I am not surprised to see cheating in this competition, and I remember something similar happened with voting in discord.
Gut feeling: this doesn't sound like a coincidence, it sounds like copy/pasting.
This is just a speculation, but it could happen that someone made an incentive and suggested this members should vote in exact same order.
Make your pizza, let people vote, if it's great you should get the reward. If people group up to vote, punish them because they don't work towards improving the contest but towards personal gain.
I think voting for anything is full of flaws, we can see that in political elections all the time.
Maybe we should have random pizza winners selected next time, after we first vote for worst pizza design
5. Post 65542765 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Wed Jul 2 22:46:19 CEST 2025) in 🍕 Bitcoin Pizza Day on Bitcointalk:
If we're recommending stuff, please just make the rule that you can't vote for your own entry (pizza, pumpkin, whatever) official going forward.
My blood boils a bit after every 'can I vote for myself' question. No, you can't, not sure what sort of a contestant even asks something like this.
Let the blood boil. That seems to be on you.
We can agree to disagree.
i don't see anything wrong with a participant voting for his own pizza, if he were to have a pizza in the contest, if he were eligible to vote, and if he were to choose to vote for his own pizza.
Yeah, you can say that - but we as a community should look to eradicate any kind of 'dicky' behavior and not support it.
I hate to see great ideas being ruined by shitty behavior - it is detrimental to any fun contests that can be done for the benefit of us all in the future.
Make your pizza, let people vote, if it's great you should get the reward. If people group up to vote, punish them because they don't work towards improving the contest but towards personal gain.
If a person votes for himself, well, he's a dick that thinks only about his own benefit - it's as clear as that.
Allowing people to vote for their own pizzas basically means that you reward dicks with 1 extra vote, and if fair players want to reach even ground they need to become dicks as well. Not great, don't you agree?
Your further explanation does not help to convince me. I see no materially significant problem with voting for your own pizza... and yeah, since we can see the votes, maybe there could be a bit of irony if the person who won and the person who got second place had ONLY a 1 vote spread and the one who one had voted for himself while the one who got second place did not vote for himself. That might constitute a bit of "awkwardness," no?
On the other hand, I see problems with other kinds of behaviors, such as colluding votes.
It is harder to have fun, if some of the intention of individual votes is being manipulated, since many of us likely consider voting about favorite pizzas is more subjective rather than group-think and/or politics.., or even accusations of colluding for financial benefits.
I surely don't claim to know the answers regarding the various balances, yet I hardly consider voting for yourself (at least in this pizza context) to be a sufficient enough of a problem, including that the remedy of disallowing such a self-voting thingie might be worse than any arguable problem in allowing such self-voting abilities.
PS: At this time, I have zero knowledge of whom the protagonists of this story are and neither which local board it is!
Personally, I believe that voting in the pizza preference context should be individually subjective rather than political or group-think, and I don't understand the specifics of such claims of colluding either.
Wait you mean someone can decide to pay people to vote for a contest open for the entire globe and in which winning is not even guaranteed?
Yes. It isn't even that far-fetched. I wouldn't say voting is open for everyone: only 3709 users have earned enough Merit to be eligible to vote.
Interesting statistic in terms of the total possible number of voters, even if everyone were to attempt to vote.
If this is true, the competition will unfortunately no longer be of any interest.
Agreed. The current format of this competition feels disconnected from the spirit of the original event.
One could reshape it similar to this:
1)Order pizza and pay with
BTC anytime during
the year*.2)Share proof of your purchases during "Bitcoin Pizza Day on Bitcointalk" by placing relevant receipts and photos.
3)Users whove bought the most pizzas with BTC
and eaten them 
become the winners.
*) Subject to discuss.
I like the idea of making a pizza, submitting photos and a description of the process and then voting to be better than having a contest over the buying of pizzas with bitcoin and eating such pizzas.
6. Post 65542606 (unedited backup) (by Satofan44) (scraped on Wed Jul 2 22:02:49 CEST 2025) in User snuffman8 spread false/fake information on technical board:
I know I have Bitcoin block 2
TL;DR: you claim to have mined
the second Bitcoin block, just 1 minute after satoshi mined
the first Bitcoin block. I've seen time-wasters here, usually after they bought a fake wallet, but this is a new level.
and the corresponding required signature to prove ownership.
Great. Sign a message, and I'll apologize for calling this fake and drop 42 Merits on your post.
Hi )
Give me a couple of merits, and I'll sign you everything you want ) ::)The second block a minute after the first could only be made by Satoshi Nakamoto
I have no words for this kind of post. From a community trust point and merit rules, merit begging is allowed?
7. Post 65542588 (unedited backup) (by Agbamoni) (scraped on Wed Jul 2 21:58:07 CEST 2025) in Third party sites/tools that helps for easier navigation of the forum:
You done also miss out on the Loycev website
https://loyce.club/.
This na one of the greatest site for the forum so far. E contain everything way get to do with trust, merit, spam and scam hunting, ban, and donations. E just dey similar to ledger but this one no they keep record of transaction, e function na to keep record of everything wey dey go on for the forum.
8. Post 65541316 (unedited backup) (by Synchronice) (scraped on Wed Jul 2 14:25:19 CEST 2025) in List of VPN Service Providers - 2021:
So you can't expect anyone including police to understand all details of every law.
Police should know the law, they are called law enforcement for a reason but sadly, the government feels fine if the police abuses the law.
Then ignore those companies that lure in new customers with discounts. Mullvad doesn't do it, vote with your wallet.
Of course! There is a reason why there are only two VPNs in
Privacy focused cheap monthly VPNs section. I like Mullvad's business model but I'm okay with IVPN's business model too, least they have fixed sale on long-term plans and they do not offer 80% sale all the time, sales are fixed all the time and you save on long-term plans.
To be frank with you, I hate this marketing strategy of VPN providers, there is more than 50% sale all the time, what's the point of that? Just set original prices and stop bullshit marketing and promotions.
yeah, and add to that the bullshit list of claims they make, stuff like "our VPN will protect you from getting hacked" and "complete anonymity online" while most people turn on thier VPN and log in to their gmail.
but my favorite is the "military grade encryption", like dude, 99% of internet traffic is literally encrypted using the same military grade encryption which is just AES-256.
I think that these VPNs are more like an adware and not a thing that protects people from it. These companies play with words and try to catch new victims all the time. Those who don't know things well, easily get captivated by the combination of beautiful words.
9. Post 65541043 (unedited backup) (by Lucius) (scraped on Wed Jul 2 12:20:19 CEST 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:
I know they blocked everything from crypto's before not allowing transfers incoming from exchanges etc
Its the classic first they laugh/ignore you, now they join you situation.
Your link is behind a pay wall
It sounds like they only want to earn from Bitcoin buyers, so I'm curious if they're still not allowing transfers from exchanges. Large corporations taking control of people's private keys and selling them "an account" isn't really the kind of adoption I was hoping for.
Banks have no morals, they do anything to earn more money. Remember the massive fines for facilitating money laundering (not related to crypto)? They only started checking more because they got fined.Anyone who believes that banks want Bitcoin because of what it represents in its core idea is either crazy or doesn't understand how the system works. Banks were created so that a very narrow group of people could control everyone else and make extra profits - and even today we see that politics and banks are two wings of the same body.
In addition, as you say, they are the biggest money launderers in the world, and on the other hand, I believe that banks are among the biggest sponsors of attacks on Bitcoin, whether it is that BTC mining causes climate change, or that it consumes too much electricity, so we will remain in the dark - and of course only criminals, terrorists and generally those who want to hide something work with BTC.
When they didn't manage to destroy the whole thing or marginalize it enough to slowly disappear in the wasteland of the internet, they decided on another tactic. The goal is obviously to profit from BTC as much as possible, while at the same time moving as many people away from the idea that it is the currency they should use.
Is it realistic to speculate that by the end of this decade maybe even 50% of all BTC will be in the possession of various ETFs, individuals like Saylor and others like him and maybe even central banks? Someone may not see too much of a problem in this, but since BTC spot ETFs were approved in the US, large companies like BlackRock have become very interested in BTC mining companies in which they have already acquired significant stakes.
I'm just curious if all this is purely for profit, or if there's an idea behind it to try to centralize Bitcoin to some extent. It should not be forgotten that BlackRock once announced that in the case of a hard fork, they reserve the right to follow the chain they consider better, not necessarily the one chosen by the majority of the community.
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11. Post 65540938 (unedited backup) (by Lafu) (scraped on Wed Jul 2 11:35:55 CEST 2025) in Die Default Trust wurde geändert ! :
Bereits Gestern hat theymos wieder ein mal das Neue Update der Default Trust 1 Liste rausgebracht für den Monat Juli !Dafür waren 120 Benutzer berechtigt.
Original Beitrag von theymos :
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Igebotz
roycilik
CryptopreneurBrainboss
hugeblack
El duderino_
KTChampions
Trofo
icopress
GreatArkansas
sheenshane
JeromeTash
3meek
logfiles
Bitcoin_Arena
GazetaBitcoin
Maus0728
TheBeardedBaby
tvplus006
coinlocket$
bitmover
DdmrDdmr
Lakai01
morvillz7z
Husna QA
Bthd
fillippone
madnessteat
lovesmayfamilis
DireWolfM14
notblox1
1miau
Little Mouse
YOSHIE
inspace
jokers10
Awaklara
efialtis
geophphreigh
zasad@
Rikafip
Etranger
NotATether
Stalker22
bullrun2024bro
Charles-Tim
Lillominato89
Free Market Capitalist
paid2
YodasRedRocket
God Of Thunder
Wieder mit dabei aus dem Deutschen Bereich sind dieses mal : bullrun2024bro , efialtis , 1miau , Lakai01 , Real-Duke , willi9974 , d5000 und meine wenigkeit.
Glaube das kann sich sehen laßen auch wenn wir schon mal mehr waren.
Hier das genaue Update und Übersicht von LoyceV:
12. Post 65540799 (unedited backup) (by Btcdeybodi) (scraped on Wed Jul 2 10:35:01 CEST 2025) in Third party sites/tools that helps for easier navigation of the forum:
Some of us dey dis forum (especially newbies) but we know too get ideas of some third party sites wey go fit help us to make tins dey very easy to get and know in the forum so i say make i bring those sites come local board so dat some of us go fit know about those sites and why e dey important for us to know them.
Good one here as this thread just introduced me to the last site you mentioned. Make we no lie, this sites them they really help because without them, getting some kind things done on the forum for they hard us.
I think LoyceV has some useful sites too that can be used to track your trust activities. Custom Trust List Viewer and Full Merit History for all users. I like say the community is contributing to the growth of the forum through making some things easier for the members. Here no be one man business and na so Bitcoin they too. Keep this list updated to help newbies that want to make use of the third party service.
Okay, the LoyceV site (loyce.club) is also a helpful site not only for trust activities but for so many data and information concerning users in the forum. when i click on the site i saw a lot of useful information and i believe others will also find it helpful.
Just like i said in the OP that anyone with other useful sites can bring it up, i think this site you brought to my notice will be left in your reply, those who read others replies will come across it. BTW, thanks for your encouraging words.
If e be say e get any other sites wey una know wey dey very helpful to take navigate the forum, una fit still let me know make i either add am for the OP or make e just dey una reply for other people to see.
13. Post 65540590 (unedited backup) (by Odohu) (scraped on Wed Jul 2 08:40:43 CEST 2025) in 🍕 Bitcoin Pizza Day on Bitcointalk:
In some countries, perhaps the price, even divided by 40, is not negligible compared to the standard of living of the local section in question?
I don't live in a cheap country, but the prize money is still enough to order 40 (double) pizzas.
Base on the statement of Becassine, it is the prize money divided by 40. From last contest, the first winner got about $1,000 which if divided by 40 will give $25. Are you saying this is enough to order 40(double) pizzas? In my country, this is rarely enough to order three large pizzas, maybe enough to order the "Papa John's pizzas" ordered by Laszlo Hanyecz, then with some bottles of soft drinks to push it down.
14. Post 65540444 (unedited backup) (by CryptopreneurBrainboss) (scraped on Wed Jul 2 06:30:37 CEST 2025) in Third party sites/tools that helps for easier navigation of the forum:
Some of us dey dis forum (especially newbies) but we know too get ideas of some third party sites wey go fit help us to make tins dey very easy to get and know in the forum so i say make i bring those sites come local board so dat some of us go fit know about those sites and why e dey important for us to know them.
Good one here as this thread just introduced me to the last site you mentioned. Make we no lie, this sites them they really help because without them, getting some kind things done on the forum for they hard us. I think LoyceV has some useful sites too that can be used to track your trust activities.
Custom Trust List Viewer and Full Merit History for all users. I like say the community is contributing to the growth of the forum through making some things easier for the members. Here no be one man business and na so Bitcoin they too. Keep this list updated to help newbies that want to make use of the third party service.
15. Post 65539893 (unedited backup) (by theymos) (scraped on Wed Jul 2 00:03:01 CEST 2025) in DT update log:
This month 120 users were eligible.
Old:
theymos
OgNasty
Vod
vapourminer
mprep
Foxpup
philipma1957
babo
Welsh
ibminer
d5000
joker_josue
Pmalek
Mitchell
albon
wwzsocki
Timelord2067
gbianchi
EFS
dbshck
stompix
arulbero
buckrogers
Buchi-88
willi9974
JayJuanGee
NeuroticFish
achow101
DaveF
examplens
nutildah
minerjones
BitcoinPenny
yahoo62278
bitbollo
zazarb
pooya87
LFC_Bitcoin
mocacinno
Real-Duke
LoyceV
The Sceptical Chymist
SFR10
TryNinja
BitcoinGirl.Club
ekiller
Jet Cash
condoras
holydarkness
Lafu
tweetious
giammangiato
buwaytress
Ale88
Kryptowerk
hosemary
krogothmanhattan
JollyGood
RaltcoinsB
Igebotz
roycilik
CryptopreneurBrainboss
KTChampions
Trofo
icopress
GreatArkansas
sheenshane
3meek
logfiles
Bitcoin_Arena
GazetaBitcoin
coinlocket$
DdmrDdmr
shahzadafzal
Lakai01
morvillz7z
Husna QA
Bthd
fillippone
cryptofrka
abhiseshakana
The Cryptovator
lovesmayfamilis
mendace
DireWolfM14
1miau
Little Mouse
jokers10
Awaklara
zasad@
Rikafip
Lachrymose
NotATether
Stalker22
bullrun2024bro
Charles-Tim
Lillominato89
Free Market Capitalist
YodasRedRocket
God Of Thunder
New:
OgNasty
Vod
vapourminer
mprep
Foxpup
philipma1957
babo
Cyrus
Welsh
ibminer
d5000
Pmalek
Mitchell
vizique
albon
Timelord2067
jeremypwr
EFS
hybridsole
hilariousandco
arulbero
buckrogers
willi9974
JayJuanGee
NeuroticFish
achow101
DaveF
examplens
nutildah
minerjones
irfan_pak10
pooya87
mocacinno
Real-Duke
klarki
LoyceV
The Sceptical Chymist
SFR10
TryNinja
condoras
holydarkness
Lafu
tweetious
giammangiato
crwth
Ale88
Vispilio
hosemary
krogothmanhattan
JollyGood
Igebotz
roycilik
CryptopreneurBrainboss
hugeblack
El duderino_
KTChampions
Trofo
icopress
GreatArkansas
sheenshane
JeromeTash
3meek
logfiles
Bitcoin_Arena
GazetaBitcoin
Maus0728
TheBeardedBaby
tvplus006
coinlocket$
bitmover
DdmrDdmr
Lakai01
morvillz7z
Husna QA
Bthd
fillippone
madnessteat
lovesmayfamilis
DireWolfM14
notblox1
1miau
Little Mouse
YOSHIE
inspace
jokers10
Awaklara
efialtis
geophphreigh
zasad@
Rikafip
Etranger
NotATether
Stalker22
bullrun2024bro
Charles-Tim
Lillominato89
Free Market Capitalist
paid2
YodasRedRocket
God Of Thunder
16. Post 65537608 (unedited backup) (by Danydee) (scraped on Tue Jul 1 09:36:01 CEST 2025) in 🍕 Bitcoin Pizza Day on Bitcointalk:
I'm not sure if I'm willing to motivate why I selected a certain pizza based on an image.
Yes, make a judgment on a single image may turn out to be very hard.. many factors, camera efficiency, POV ....
I experienced this myself, when I realized only when the voting topic was made (and obviously too late) that my pizza was not well contrasting with the background on the picture..
So the pictures of making the pizza could help very much to figure out how it is made, it's quality.. quality of the base/crust ..
* So why not make participants upload a full gallery to image hosting services.. and put the link of the gallery with the final picture on the voting topic !??
just make a couple of rules of posting and that's all !
Friends, who is good at math?
What is the probability that, given 144 pizza options, 5 users from one local section vote for 5 identical pizzas, placing votes in the same order?
You're really monitoring every vote !
Hats off mate, bravo!
17. Post 65536822 (unedited backup) (by Zwei) (scraped on Tue Jul 1 00:12:01 CEST 2025) in List of VPN Service Providers - 2021:
To be frank with you, I hate this marketing strategy of VPN providers, there is more than 50% sale all the time, what's the point of that? Just set original prices and stop bullshit marketing and promotions.
yeah, and add to that the bullshit list of claims they make, stuff like "our VPN will protect you from getting hacked" and "complete anonymity online" while most people turn on thier VPN and log in to their gmail.
but my favorite is the "military grade encryption", like dude, 99% of internet traffic is literally encrypted using the same military grade encryption which is just AES-256.
In my country, we have a saying that translates to "everyone is expected to know the law", but you'd have to be a lawyer to have the time to read all of them. And study them to remember them, and keep up with continuous changes and new laws. And even so, lawyers specialize in only parts of all laws. So you can't expect anyone including police to understand all details of every law.
i think every country has a similar saying, in my country, the saying translates to "the law does not protect the ignorant".
ProtonVPN is playing games with me. It offered me 55% discount on 2 years plan, then I revisited the pricing URL and it offered 70% discount. Finally, US$71.76 for 2 years, sounds good. I updated the title and the prices. Some VPNs became cheap and some became expensive. To be frank with you, I hate this marketing strategy of VPN providers, there is more than 50% sale all the time, what's the point of that? Just set original prices and stop bullshit marketing and promotions.
Then ignore those companies that lure in new customers with discounts. Mullvad doesn't do it, vote with your wallet.
mullvad is so underrated tbh, and they are pretty much unknown in the VPN market outside the privacy space, but that's expected. after all, they don't do paid reviews or run an affiliate program like every other VPNs. actually, i don't think i have seen a single mullvad ad before.
18. Post 65536450 (unedited backup) (by Alone055) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 21:49:01 CEST 2025) in Leave a stub of a removed thread with malware with a waning.:
Add another line at the bottom that should say:
"Download it from the original source here: ....."
And, add the link to another page after the colon, and once someone clicks on it, it should say:
"You did it again, fool!
I just told you not to download Electrum from anywhere other than the official website."
19. Post 65536099 (unedited backup) (by Satofan44) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 19:30:01 CEST 2025) in Incorrect Feedback?:
Is this a centralized or decentralized system? I am not allowed to give a negative tag to people who I don't trust? Who do I tag instead because of this spammer, the manager that enables this user to defraud the company that is funding the signature campaign?
If you do not trust someone,
Go to your profile, and then click on trust >> Trust settings >> Put a ~ and their username. In this case, it would be ~Bitcoin Smith and update it. If you trust some, do the same process, but without a ~. That's how you do it.
You should read the beginner's guide, which was mentioned by Bitcoin Smith earlier.
That thread does not help, these statements are contradictory.
Trust feedback
Trust feedback (Positive/Neutral/Negative) can be used to express your opinion about someone's trustworthiness. In other words: would you trust or have you trusted this user with your money?
Of course I would not trust the author of this thread with anything. This part of the thread indicates that negative trust is appropriate, other parts of that thread and statements by other members here indicate the contrary. So which one is it? Are you able to decide what constitutes trustworthiness yourself or do you obey a preset list of rules that are imposed by others?
20. Post 65536085 (unedited backup) (by Shishir99) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 19:26:49 CEST 2025) in Incorrect Feedback?:
Is this a centralized or decentralized system? I am not allowed to give a negative tag to people who I don't trust? Who do I tag instead because of this spammer, the manager that enables this user to defraud the company that is funding the signature campaign?
If you do not trust someone,
Go to your profile, and then click on trust >> Trust settings >> Put a ~ and their username. In this case, it would be ~Bitcoin Smith and update it. If you trust some, do the same process, but without a ~. That's how you do it.
You should read the beginner's guide, which was mentioned by Bitcoin Smith earlier.
21. Post 65536058 (unedited backup) (by Odohu) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 19:22:25 CEST 2025) in Leave a stub of a removed thread with malware with a waning.:
I so much love this suggestion because nothing is actually deleted forever in the forum due to the archives and other external platforms such as LoyceV and Tryninja tools, where people can still root out deleted posts. Placing such big warning on posts confirmed to have malware will help in protect people who might want to check some of these users posts history even though they were deleted from the forum.
22. Post 65535927 (unedited backup) (by apogio) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 18:49:55 CEST 2025) in List of VPN Service Providers - 2021:
ProtonVPN is playing games with me. It offered me 55% discount on 2 years plan, then I revisited the pricing URL and it offered 70% discount. Finally, US$71.76 for 2 years, sounds good. I updated the title and the prices. Some VPNs became cheap and some became expensive. To be frank with you, I hate this marketing strategy of VPN providers, there is more than 50% sale all the time, what's the point of that? Just set original prices and stop bullshit marketing and promotions.
Then ignore those companies that lure in new customers with discounts. Mullvad doesn't do it, vote with your wallet.
I agree with Loyce. It's a product afterall. The best way to show your disatisfaction is to ignore any product that you think has unfair pricing policies. In traditional investing, there is a saying that the companies who put large red arrows pointing at their investor relations section in their website should be red-flagged. It's not the same, but I want to point out that when you disagree with a pricing or financial policy, ignore it.
23. Post 65535886 (unedited backup) (by Bitcoin Smith) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 18:38:07 CEST 2025) in Incorrect Feedback?:
~ low effort spammer that does not read anything at all and refuses to accept any responsibility. This level of discourse is for people who go to high school or even younger than that, stop wasting my time.
You are the one who don't want to accept any explanation, you act like if you post something wrong then I will call you spammer and dismiss everything further and using red for calling out spam isn't even right way of using the trust system. You may want to learn more about trust system since you are on DT
LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system
24. Post 65535838 (unedited backup) (by Satofan44) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 18:20:55 CEST 2025) in Incorrect Feedback?:
^So you now decided to retaliate with a negative? For pointing out I responded to you!
Others suggested not to give any suggestion unless I am 100% sure if it's technical query so I crossed out the post now.
Do most people behave like this around here, a question perhaps to some seniors like LoyceV and nutildah? I'll watch whether one of you has time to provide more historical context but other than that I am now completely done with this case. I have proven my point that you are just a low effort spammer that does not read anything at all and refuses to accept any responsibility. This level of discourse for people who go to high school or younger, stop wasting my time.
25. Post 65535752 (unedited backup) (by VashaUdacha777) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 17:50:37 CEST 2025) in Bitcoin core files 2009:
I know I have Bitcoin block 2
TL;DR: you claim to have mined
the second Bitcoin block, just 1 minute after satoshi mined
the first Bitcoin block. I've seen time-wasters here, usually after they bought a fake wallet, but this is a new level.
and the corresponding required signature to prove ownership.
Great. Sign a message, and I'll apologize for calling this fake and drop 42 Merits on your post.
Hi )
Give me a couple of merits, and I'll sign you everything you want ) ::)The second block a minute after the first could only be made by Satoshi Nakamoto
26. Post 65535664 (unedited backup) (by Satofan44) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 17:22:55 CEST 2025) in Incorrect Feedback?:
Well, does that mean that op deserved the given feedback from your own judgement?
If yes! then do you know if they tried exchanging pm to resolved it internally, and they both didn't aligned?
Neither did he
sent me a message, respond to the report in the thread where it was made, nor did he correct his post. He didn't even accept responsibility at all and has instead shifted the blame
for his actions onto me. Does this not tell you enough?
So now you even started to tell
lies? I responded in the reported thread itself [1],[2]
1.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482297.msg65482294#msg654822942.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482297.msg65483077#msg65483077In both replies I explicitly asked why I am wrong and I am happy to learn if I wrong here.
Whops, my bad. I don't remember that post because it was useless. I retract that part of my statement.
Well, does that mean that op deserved the given feedback from your own judgement?
Like I said, he was claiming LN-transactions happen offline. That's not true, which makes the feedback factually correct.
That's new low, now community don't see the difference between terminology mixup and in what context it's been told but I think that's not the reason why he tagged, it is because I said the trail breaks with LN and he said NO, it doesn't but he is someone who explain things in detailed didn't gave me anything much other than this.
No, this is not true. The link is not broken and there are many ways you can be tracked. Please don't give incorrect information here.
The answer is in the same post that you quoted and cut off, you are just a very lazy spammer. Worse, there is also an answer in a previous post
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5546439.msg65473020#msg65473020.
I hope that you have understood that my answer applies pretty much directly to LN as well. Just think about it, starting with the address reuse example. In addition, there are probably some LN specific concerns. Reading a paper such as this one could be interesting to you:
https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.12470.
Please stop wasting everyone's time, you are clearly wrong and are not interested in learning much or taking responsibility.
27. Post 65535578 (unedited backup) (by OrangeFren) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 16:54:25 CEST 2025) in OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison:
i believe these inconsistencies are usually due to the aggregator OrangeFren data refresh speed and the fast-moving nature of crypto prices
I've seen such inconsistencies too often to blame it on data refresh speed.
Whenever I use a site to compare rates at instant exchangers, I'm looking for the one that gives me (say) 0.2% better rates. If there's a 1% variation between what's shown and what I get, it's kinda pointless.
It's not just Orangefren, I remember seeing something similar on Bestchange and exchanges listed on there.
To test one of the exchanges, for example, Swapuz. I downloaded their affiliate widget and added it to one of my sites. Here is how the conversion of 0.1 ETH to USDT (trx) looks on my site and their official site
...
Big thanks to everyone who reported the rate differences!
We've had a closer look over the weekend and decided to impose a 1% correction on fees we get from Swapuz.
Currently we check for new rates as soon as we fetch the previous batch.
Bare in mind we also interpolate, we can't query every amount, after all. It also wouldn't be a good design for user privacy to send a request for a quote every time a user searches for a pair, because if any of the exchanges we list had their query history compromised it would make it possible to timing-attack our users. Even if they didn't use that particular service.
28. Post 65535399 (unedited backup) (by PrimeNumber7) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 15:51:13 CEST 2025) in Building in public a NEW Loyce.Club Design:
I appreciate the effort, but came to the conclusion (years ago) that I don't really want to spend more time on "looks". My site loyce.club was never meant to be used on it's own, it was simply a place to dump data that I couldn't fit in a post. And it kinda got out of hand, with currently ~15 million HTML pages. If I'd ever change things, it should be by converting everything to a database system to make it much easier to change things, but since I still know nothing about databases, that's not going to happen any time soon.
So much to do, so little time....
Basically, you need to learn two things about databases:
- how to load a record (or a batch of records) into a database
- how to query a database
When you scrape data, you would load data into your database, and when someone visits loyce.club, the backend of your website should query the database and render a template based on the data. You would want to be sure that your backend doesn't allow for SQL injection attacks, but this is fairly simple to guard against.
I think this is probably something you could vibe code fairly easily with ChatGPT, or Claude.
This will also make adding information to each page, or changing the layout of a page as simple as making a change to a single template file.
29. Post 65535355 (unedited backup) (by Zoomic) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 15:39:07 CEST 2025) in Incorrect Feedback?:
Well, does that mean that op deserved the given feedback from your own judgement?
Like I said, he was claiming LN-transactions happen offline. That's not true, which makes the feedback factually correct.
It could be that he wanted to say off-chain and not offline.
Or does he mean that there are offline LN wallets?
To me, I don't see any reason to be given such feedback as I believe that op can be corrected.
OP hasn't even bothered to correct his post, even after he realized it was wrong.
Some people have this ego that makes them not to easily admit that they are wrong.
30. Post 65535348 (unedited backup) (by Bitcoin Smith) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 15:34:49 CEST 2025) in Incorrect Feedback?:
Well, does that mean that op deserved the given feedback from your own judgement?
Like I said, he was claiming LN-transactions happen offline. That's not true, which makes the feedback factually correct.
That's new low, now community don't see the difference between terminology mixup and in what context it's been told but I think that's not the reason why he tagged, it is because I said the trail breaks with LN and he said NO, it doesn't but he is someone who explain things in detailed didn't gave me anything much other than this.
No, this is not true. The link is not broken and there are many ways you can be tracked. Please don't give incorrect information here.
To me, I don't see any reason to be given such feedback as I believe that op can be corrected.
OP hasn't even bothered to correct his post, even after he realized it was wrong.
I didn't edit the post but in the following replies on the same thread I explained why I think it is untraceable.
~
My knowledge about bitcoin and it's technical knowledge is limited to bitcointalk only not go to an extent of making my research paper, so every time if I have a query I simply refer
The Lightning Network FAQ and in this case I used
Are Lightning Network payments more anonymous than on-chain transactions?Yes, Lightning Network payments are more anonymous. They use
onion routing. In short, when a payment is being routed, an intermediary node knows only the previous and the next node in the path. It is impossible to tell who initiated the payment and what the final destination is.
If what I said is false information then the guide which received hundreds of merit have wrong information too or I am reading things differently? Well anyways to prove it technically I only used "almost impossible" ≠ "impossible" which is not anything but agreeing with Sato's opinion of there are ways it can be done but I don't want to hide under that, I even responded to him that I am happy to learn if you say how it's done and change what I have told.
Well, does that mean that op deserved the given feedback from your own judgement?
If yes! then do you know if they tried exchanging pm to resolved it internally, and they both didn't aligned?
Neither did he
sent me a message, respond to the report in the thread where it was made, nor did he correct his post. He didn't even accept responsibility at all and has instead shifted the blame
for his actions onto me. Does this not tell you enough?
So now you even started to tell
lies? I responded in the reported thread itself [1],[2]
1.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482297.msg65482294#msg654822942.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482297.msg65483077#msg65483077In both replies I explicitly asked why I am wrong and I am happy to learn if I wrong here.
I am happy to learn though cause that's what this place is about.
~ I am not dismissing that as long as it's valid with clear explanation.
I didn't send a PM regarding this because I thought we can't come into any mutual agreement.
31. Post 65535287 (unedited backup) (by TheBeardedBaby) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 15:10:25 CEST 2025) in Building in public a NEW Loyce.Club Design:
I appreciate the effort, but came to the conclusion (years ago) that I don't really want to spend more time on "looks". My site loyce.club was never meant to be used on it's own, it was simply a place to dump data that I couldn't fit in a post. And it kinda got out of hand, with currently ~15 million HTML pages. If I'd ever change things, it should be by converting everything to a database system to make it much easier to change things, but since I still know nothing about databases, that's not going to happen any time soon.
So much to do, so little time....
Amazing how you've managed to keep it consistent throughout all these years and ~15 million HTML pages is just wow!
32. Post 65535104 (unedited backup) (by Satofan44) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 14:05:37 CEST 2025) in Incorrect Feedback?:
If we want to split hairs and pick apart everything people say, then satofan44 could also be given neutral or possibly even negative feedback for defending shady scam exchange ChangeNOW.
ChangeNOW isnt just over complying with regulations, they outright scam people by selectively enforcing KYC and then ghosting users who actually provide their personal information in hopes of recovering their funds. Its just one of various fronts used by Evercode Lab to scam people.
Resorting to immediately tagging people over an opinion that we feel is misleading or incorrect isnt the best approach. Its better to counter with facts and hope that people will become better informed.
Yet another lie posted without reading the topic. Take a hint from the topic title "Users who spread false/fake/unhelpful information on
technical board". I am not defending anyone in particular, I am discussing the topic at hand and trying to understand what is going on. Being emotional and making logically fallacious statements does not advance your position. If you have been scammed by someone, that does not change the fact that I was not scammed by the same someone. If on the other hand someone thinks that LN is centralized, that does not change the fact that this is a lie and that it is not centralized.
Well, does that mean that op deserved the given feedback from your own judgement?
Like I said, he was claiming LN-transactions happen offline. That's not true, which makes the feedback factually correct.
For me that is strong proof that he is just a spammer. I've seen many posts that try to come off genuine but the details don't make any sense. Sometimes it is the sentence structure other times it is the content.
33. Post 65534831 (unedited backup) (by Free Market Capitalist) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 12:23:13 CEST 2025) in Is trolling legally permitted on this forum?:
Just click Ignore, that's what I did a long time ago.
Me too but I was just replying to OP's question.
34. Post 65534796 (unedited backup) (by Perfectbaby) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 12:11:43 CEST 2025) in Incorrect Feedback?:
Well, does that mean that op deserved the given feedback from your own judgement?
Like I said, he was claiming LN-transactions happen offline. That's not true, which makes the feedback factually correct.
To me, I don't see any reason to be given such feedback as I believe that op can be corrected.
OP hasn't even bothered to correct his post, even after he realized it was wrong.
Good!
Like I know, nobody is above correction and anyone who has refused to take is not also willing learn or increase their knowledge bank.
Very bad of him or her, and nobody is an island of knowledge so if claiming to be too right on his knowledge then is entirely wrong.
Thank you sir.
35. Post 65534643 (unedited backup) (by Perfectbaby) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 11:20:19 CEST 2025) in Incorrect Feedback?:
it would be better he removed the tag and learn more about how to DT systems. In my opinion, before adding anyone on our trust-list it would be better such person(s) understand how the system are being used before adding them
That's the responsibility of the DT1-user who added Satofan44 to DT2. I assume he wanted to see this feedback by default,
but that shouldn't be a reason to remove said feedback.Well, does that mean that op deserved the given feedback from your own judgement?
If yes! then do you know if they tried exchanging pm to resolved it internally, and they both didn't aligned?
To me, I don't see any reason to be given such feedback as I believe that op can be corrected. I could remembered then, during my little beginning over here there where some things I was feel so right on my own view, but after sometimes someone had to correct me and that was how I changed and stops making arguments on things I had no or little knowledge on, instead I would read people comments to kwon what they are saying before even giving my contribution or opinion.
36. Post 65534506 (unedited backup) (by examplens) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 10:33:43 CEST 2025) in Building in public a NEW Loyce.Club Design:
I was thinking the same thing. I think I'd be okay working with someone, but not someone who's been here for (only) 3 months. That doesn't give any guarantee of a long-term commitment to Bitcointalk.
Have you thought in the direction of creating an API that others could use for some additional tools or suggestions like the OP? The basis work would again be up to you, the data is certainly public, so why not if someone can put it together visually in a different way.
37. Post 65534480 (unedited backup) (by examplens) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 10:25:37 CEST 2025) in [v2][Self Moderated] In Merits, Count Down To Your Next Rank... :
@Fivestar4everMVP
I wanted to know how it works here, basically whoever wants and has merit can contribute to making people rank?
@nutildah @loycev I ask your expert opinion, if the thing is right and feasible I will also give a hand in this thread
I don't want to offend anyone's sensibilities, as you well know I am a man of peace
In the beginning, the idea was good, and the goal was to push members who lack a small number of merits for a rank upgrade. A little stimulus for younger members is perfectly fine and proof that the forum is not as rigid as newcomers perceive it to be.
As in everything, every good idea turns into its opposition at some point, so this thread has become a place where users beg for merit and possibly congratulations on rank-up. So instead of being a place where members will prove their quality, the opposite happened.
38. Post 65534464 (unedited backup) (by Synchronice) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 10:21:13 CEST 2025) in List of VPN Service Providers - 2021:
It's ironic how the police always ignores laws when it can. If you don't know the law, the police will disobey law. When I was a kid, I always thought that police follows laws but they always obey when possible, that's catastrophic.
By the way, it's strange that Mullvad has been operating for 14 years and 2023 was the year when their offices have been visited with a search warrant.
Police visited the Mullvad VPN office in Gothenburg with a search warrant.
They intended to seize computers with customer data.
In line with our policies such customer data did not exist. We argued they had no reason to expect to find what they were looking for and any seizures would therefore be illegal under Swedish law.
ProtonVPN is playing games with me. It offered me 55% discount on 2 years plan, then I revisited the pricing URL and it offered 70% discount. Finally, US$71.76 for 2 years, sounds good. I updated the title and the prices. Some VPNs became cheap and some became expensive. To be frank with you, I hate this marketing strategy of VPN providers, there is more than 50% sale all the time, what's the point of that? Just set original prices and stop bullshit marketing and promotions.
39. Post 65534401 (unedited backup) (by _act_) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 09:56:13 CEST 2025) in [v2][Self Moderated] In Merits, Count Down To Your Next Rank... :
@Fivestar4everMVP
I wanted to know how it works here, basically whoever wants and has merit can contribute to making people rank?
Fivestar4everMVP posted this on the OP:
Benefits:-
If you post the number of merit(s) left for you to move to the next rank here, Merit sources, Any one and Everyone watching this topic with lots of sMerit to share might decide to take a look at your post history, to find posts that are Merit worthy to Merit so as to help you ascend.
You can send merit to any post that you like so far it is a good post. There are some merit source that rank account up on this forum like this after the person is closer to the next rank.
@nutildah @loycev I ask your expert opinion, if the thing is right and feasible I will also give a hand in this thread
I don't want to offend anyone's sensibilities, as you well know I am a man of peace
No one is offended with this if you wish to.
Since you asked, I hate this thread, and I've never merited an account because of a post I saw here. Its turned into a spam megathread; it may have started with good intentions but attracts the most desperate and cheesy elements of the forum. Having said that, I don't care if merit sources or anyone else wants to merit anyone who posts here... Do what you want, IDGAF, YOLO.
If someone is posting good, I do not think the person needs this thread at all because I noticed some merit source and some people have already known the account and they will always send the person merit so far he continues to post good. But this is still also not a bad idea at all.
40. Post 65534319 (unedited backup) (by nutildah) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 09:16:13 CEST 2025) in [v2][Self Moderated] In Merits, Count Down To Your Next Rank... :
@nutildah @loycev I ask your expert opinion, if the thing is right and feasible I will also give a hand in this thread
I don't want to offend anyone's sensibilities, as you well know I am a man of peace
Since you asked, I hate this thread, and I've never merited an account because of a post I saw here. Its turned into a spam megathread; it may have started with good intentions but attracts the most desperate elements of the forum. Having said that, I don't care if merit sources or anyone else wants to merit anyone who posts here... Do what you want, YOLO.
41. Post 65534289 (unedited backup) (by babo) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 08:59:25 CEST 2025) in [v2][Self Moderated] In Merits, Count Down To Your Next Rank... :
@Fivestar4everMVP
I wanted to know how it works here, basically whoever wants and has merit can contribute to making people rank?
@nutildah @loycev I ask your expert opinion, if the thing is right and feasible I will also give a hand in this thread
I don't want to offend anyone's sensibilities, as you well know I am a man of peace
42. Post 65534171 (unedited backup) (by OcTradism) (scraped on Mon Jun 30 07:43:13 CEST 2025) in Is trolling legally permitted on this forum?:
If you reply to trolling posts, you are feeding it and make trolleys more exciting and have motivation to continue trolling.
That will never end. By the time someone gives up and stops responding, someone else jumps in and responds to his posts again. Even with the best intentions, some users can't be helped.
I know and the forum is big enough to have many users who will ignore or join trolling discussions. I only recommend users to do their actions individually against trollers, and that's all they can do individually. As a community, other forum members must contribute and reduce replies to trolling posts but I agree with you that it is endless. There are always shitposters who don't kind what posts or topics they are replying to. They only care of making as many posts as possible for post quota, trolling or not, it is not their concerns.
43. Post 65533245 (unedited backup) (by examplens) (scraped on Sun Jun 29 23:01:55 CEST 2025) in Building in public a NEW Loyce.Club Design:
Are you open to have someone else looking at the code and see how it can be improved, both from design and architecture perspective?
Even if he was open to sharing the code, I'm not sure how willing he would be to include someone else in development or improvement. Although I would not include anyone in this case. For example, after a while, you would get bored or simply wouldn't have time to continue with it, and he
LoyceV would have to fix yours in addition to his own code.
44. Post 65533224 (unedited backup) (by AG0RA) (scraped on Sun Jun 29 22:56:55 CEST 2025) in Building in public a NEW Loyce.Club Design:
For example, the unedited (or deleted) posts page for a user with a large number of posts is quite tiring to use, even for the browser itself.
That's true. I only use that page to open a bunch of links in new tabs, other than that, it doesn't really have a function.
I assume you're doing everything as a hobby, but what's the point of a tool if it complicates its use.
It got out of hand
I never expected to store this much data when I started all this.
Are you open to have someone else looking at the code and see how it can be improved, both from design and architecture perspective?
45. Post 65533037 (unedited backup) (by examplens) (scraped on Sun Jun 29 21:58:07 CEST 2025) in Building in public a NEW Loyce.Club Design:
I noticed there's plenty of people looking to improve the tool you have built. Have you thought on making it open source? Allow people to contribute and guarantee it will be maintained in the long term? What would be the pros and cons?
It's basically just a bunch of shell scripts. There's not much to make open source, and my spaghetti code wasn't really meant to be open source.
Aside from the fact that you don't mind spending time on the appearance, it would be very useful to give some design for some of the functions on the site. Just enough to make them more functional and adapted to the human eye. For example, the unedited (or deleted) posts page for a user with a large number of posts is quite tiring to use, even for the browser itself.
I assume you're doing everything as a hobby, but what's the point of a tool if it complicates its use.
46. Post 65533008 (unedited backup) (by examplens) (scraped on Sun Jun 29 21:46:13 CEST 2025) in OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison:
i believe these inconsistencies are usually due to the aggregator OrangeFren data refresh speed and the fast-moving nature of crypto prices
I've seen such inconsistencies too often to blame it on data refresh speed.
Whenever I use a site to compare rates at instant exchangers, I'm looking for the one that gives me (say) 0.2% better rates. If there's a 1% variation between what's shown and what I get, it's kinda pointless.
It's not just Orangefren, I remember seeing something similar on Bestchange and exchanges listed on there.
To test one of the exchanges, for example, Swapuz. I downloaded their affiliate widget and added it to one of my sites. Here is how the conversion of 0.1 ETH to USDT (trx) looks on my site and their official site
vs official:
At the same time, the difference in the current rate for the ETH/USDT pair is obvious, which adds further confusion.
47. Post 65532750 (unedited backup) (by Satofan44) (scraped on Sun Jun 29 20:09:37 CEST 2025) in Incorrect Feedback?:
It feels like there's something wrong, he should either tag both of you or not tagging at all. Let's see what he will do.
Speculative dramatization is not helpful. I am very busy and my activity is sporadic. I essentially almost never read this section. I didn't know I was included in DT2, and I didn't even know much about this system before seeing this topic. At this point I would like to say thank you to the user yahoo62278. Had he not sent me a DM about this thread, it is very likely that I would not have seen it for some time.
I've looked into the situation again. The reason why I didn't leave a tag on dkbit98 is because of this post.
But i expect @dkbit98 can give acceptable reasoning why he think LN is centralized, so i'll wait him to reply about it either on this or that thread.
After reading this and knowing that the user has received many merits, I decided to give them a chance to explain themselves and expected a profound answer. The answer never came. As I was busy with Lightning, I practically forgot about this. I have also left him a Tag now.
As for the feedback, there is no chance that I will remove it.
The only correct thing to do is to discuss things that you have (real) knowledge in, everything else should be ignored until you have gained sufficient understanding of the topic for you to be able to make statements about it. You're welcome to participate by asking questions, but that's the extent of it.
As soon as you start making unfounded statements you have started doing harm. Educating people and getting them to use Bitcoin is hard enough, and it is made even more difficult by the vast amount of misinformation about nearly every aspect of Bitcoin circulating on the internet.
That's better. I still can't really comment on breaking the link between funds, as I don't really know the inner workings of LN (nodes). I know bits and pieces, but that's not enough. And I think that's kinda the point: we've seen many people posting incorrect information on the tech board, usually trying to earn Merit or they're just after those signature earnings. Either way, it's better not to have the wrong information on the tech boards.
That is also a point of the issues. You can't comment so simply on these things because the reality is very complex and nuanced. A lot of users are just repeating surface information that they've seen somewhere else. Usually it is not based on theoretical research or empirical knowledge, and as such is almost always wrong. Some posts will be wrong in the details, others will be completely wrong but the point is the same. One should not comment on it.
48. Post 65532475 (unedited backup) (by Bitcoin Smith) (scraped on Sun Jun 29 18:29:07 CEST 2025) in Incorrect Feedback?:
I mean, if you tag someone because of spreading incorrect information, why the other one didn't get it too?
It feels like there's something wrong, he should either tag both of you or not tagging at all. Let's see what he will do.
It is because he seems to be agreeing there's different level of centralization (or he didn't want to engage with same level because the other user is already in DT and I am not).
All I can add is I stopped reading your post right here:
the trail breaks when you transfer Munn to Speed via LN because it's happening offline
What about now,
1. Perhaps, I should have used the term Off-chain not offline that created the confusion in the first place.
Did you send a message to Satofan before creating this thread and try to resolve the situation without escalation?
@Bitcoin Smith, just settles this with Satofan44 through PM.
No I didn't, with the few interactions I had he seems to be dismissive of what I am trying to say.
49. Post 65532465 (unedited backup) (by _act_) (scraped on Sun Jun 29 18:26:07 CEST 2025) in Incorrect Feedback?:
All I can add is I stopped reading your post right here:
the trail breaks when you transfer Munn to Speed via LN because it's happening offline
Neutral feedback isn't that important, and I've never used "Munn" (did you mean Muun Wallet?) or "Speed", but what you wrote here matches the feedback:
This user spread false/fake information on technical board.
I think he meant to send the BTC from Muun wallet to Speed wallet using lightning network. The OP of the thread posted this:
I buy BTC on a KYC exchange and transfer it (on-chain) to a hot wallet on my desktop. From there I transfer it (again on-chain) to Muun wallet on my phone. From Muun I pass it through Lightning network to Speed wallet, also on my phone and finally I send it (on-chain) to my final cold storage address.
According to what I have read about lightning network in the past, it can be used to block the trace, but if someone sent certain amount of bitcoin on-chain to a wallet, open a channel, sent the coin to to another lightning wallet and close the channel on the other wallet, maybe it can be traced if it happened within a short period of time, the amount used to open and close the channel might be used for the tracing, I think. We have seen government trace monero transaction before, I guess it has to do with tracing of the amount and not an error about monero transaction anonymity at all.
I do not know about Speed wallet, I downloaded it, I input one of my useless email but it then asked me of my full name, country and state. I stopped immediately because it might even asked me to get verified but which I do not know about. People should have told the OP on the thread about how such wallet is bad for privacy. I guess it is a custodial wallet entirely. Using wallet like sending from Muun to Phoenix would have been better.
If wallets like Muun, Phoenix, Zeus, Lightning Electrum are used for it and the user does not send the full amount but divided it into different lightning wallets, it will be hard to trace.
@Bitcoin Smith, just settles this with Satofan44 through PM.
50. Post 65531770 (unedited backup) (by AG0RA) (scraped on Sun Jun 29 13:35:13 CEST 2025) in Building in public a NEW Loyce.Club Design:
I appreciate the effort, but came to the conclusion (years ago) that I don't really want to spend more time on "looks". My site loyce.club was never meant to be used on it's own, it was simply a place to dump data that I couldn't fit in a post. And it kinda got out of hand, with currently ~15 million HTML pages. If I'd ever change things, it should be by converting everything to a database system to make it much easier to change things, but since I still know nothing about databases, that's not going to happen any time soon.
So much to do, so little time....
You cannot do everything by yourself. I noticed there's plenty of people looking to improve the tool you have built. Have you thought on making it open source? Allow people to contribute and guarantee it will be maintained in the long term? What would be the pros and cons?
51. Post 65531619 (unedited backup) (by AG0RA) (scraped on Sun Jun 29 12:25:13 CEST 2025) in Building in public a NEW Loyce.Club Design:
Well, why not give it a try!
After more than 5y the original
CONTEST: design loyce.club home page still open and despite the many suggestions, the useful site still being served with pure clean html pages.
https://Loyce.ClubI know it's all about data, I value data much, but the way it could be improved is really easy, even just using simple HTML and CSS. I've contacted LoyceV in this regard and taking here the initiative to start a collective effort to gather feedback and propose a simple way to improve the design and provide a better UX to this useful tool.
Ideally I'd like to access the code to make sure the efforts on improving the UX will be implemented, otherwise it's like painting in the dark without knowing the canvas is!
I've built here a first interaction, pure CSS applied to the current HTML of the landing page. Nothing fancy, just some style and application of web standards. you can check the code and final results here
https://jsitor.com/Tl0P0GGbPRDAnd here another example page
https://jsitor.com/cym1I8Xa203This is simply the first interaction, and I'll continue working on it depending on the feedback I'll receive. What are your thoughts? how you'd like Loyce.Club to look? Do you have any similar website or reference we can take into account for future interactions?
Some screenshots for the records...
code snippets in the links above will be deleted after few days. Here the minified CSS used for the style
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52. Post 65531565 (unedited backup) (by AG0RA) (scraped on Sun Jun 29 12:02:19 CEST 2025) in Building in public a NEW Loyce.Club Design:
Well, why not give it a try!
After more than 5y the original
CONTEST: design loyce.club home page still open and despite the many suggestions, the useful site still being served with pure clean html pages.
I know it's all about data, I value data much, but the way it could be improved is really easy, even just using simple HTML and CSS. I've contacted LoyceV in this regard and taking here the initiative to start a collective effort to gather feedback and propose a simple way to improve the design and provide a better UX to this useful tool.
Ideally I'd like to access the code to make sure the efforts on improving the UX will be implemented, otherwise it's like painting in the dark without knowing the canvas is!
I've built here a first interaction, pure CSS applied to the current HTML of the landing page. Nothing fancy, just some style and application of web standards. you can check the code and final results here
https://jsitor.com/Tl0P0GGbPRDThis is simply the first interaction, and I'll continue working on it depending on the feedback I'll receive. What are your thoughts? how you'd like Loyce.Club to look? Do you have any similar website or reference we can take into account for future interactions?
Some screenshots for the records...
53. Post 65531163 (unedited backup) (by Wake Up) (scraped on Sun Jun 29 08:36:13 CEST 2025) in Türkçe Bölümü Aylık Merit ve Mesaj İstatistikleri:
Selam arkadaşlar.
@LoyceV tarafından hazırlanan
The Future of Bitcointalk : Low Ranking Top Merit earners in the past 30 days diye bir başlıkta kendi sıramda üçüncü sırada olduğumu gördüm ve bu güzel haberi burada da duyurmak istedim. Sıralama bugün güncellenmiş. Türkçe bölümü olarak ben çok değerli bilgileri görüyorum forumda. Forumun özellikle Meta kısmına sıklıkla bakmak gerekiyor, çok güzel bilgiler ve istatistikler hazırlanmış.
Konu :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185736.msg65528163#msg65528163kendiminkine de bir bakayım dedim, ben zirveyi üstteki mesajda yaşamışım. sizin de açtığınız konular çok iyi pür dikkat okuyorum hepsini. böyle devam ederseniz yüksek ranklara çok hızlı çıkarsınız
İlgi ve alakanıza teşekkür ediyorum. Faydalı bulmanıza sevindim. Kripto paraların yeni başlayanlarına ve temel basitçe bazı bilgilerine özet olarak ulaşılabilmesini amaçlıyorum. Bu konuda paylaşım yapmaya devam edeceğim. Sizin de iyi bir yazar olduğunuzu söylemeliyim. Rank amacım yok aslında bu işin meyvesi o. Düzenlilik ve farklılık amaçlıyorum. Foruma adapte olduğumdan beri düzenli şekilde araştırmalarım da artıyor. Kendime yeni katkılarım da oluyor. Sizlere de katkı verebiliyorsam ne güzel
54. Post 65531051 (unedited backup) (by Shishir99) (scraped on Sun Jun 29 06:49:25 CEST 2025) in What is wrong with these Exchanges? Who copied whom? :
Now the question is, if they are a legitimate exchange. Suppose some of them are owned by one person/company. I feel like most copy/paste exchanges are either owned by the same group of people, or the template is available online at a very cheap price. LoyceV pointed out a very important thing. I don't even know where the Seychelles are, and if this is too popular to get a license for an exchange.
All six domain registrars are NameSilo, and the Registrant State/Province: AZ.
Interesting.
55. Post 65530047 (unedited backup) (by Alone055) (scraped on Sat Jun 28 21:03:25 CEST 2025) in Little things that bug you/me about the forum:
It seems to depend on the browser: it doesn't show in Firefox, but it works in Chromium.
Probably. In that case, your suggestion makes sense because making the date clickable on that page will be helpful for users using browsers other than Chrome in clicking or accessing the links of a user's posts/threads from their "Latest posts of:" page.
56. Post 65530007 (unedited backup) (by Zwei) (scraped on Sat Jun 28 20:50:49 CEST 2025) in What is wrong with these Exchanges? Who copied whom? :
I have been browsing the service announcement board and the exchange board. I noticed a couple of exchanges that use the same template with minor changes. Also, a couple of them use a similar title, and their posting pattern is the same as well.
If you check those exchange websites, you will notice they just changed the background color and the theme color. Almost everything else is the same. Who copied whom, actually? Are they legit?
none of them are actually real exchanges, all of them are just a simple wordpress website and they seems to be an affiliate using an exchange widget connected to an exchange called coinall, which i have never even heard of before.
at least that's where some of the widget assets are hosted.
Let's see:
whois bitsz.io
Creation Date: 2024-05-20T17:12:43Z
Registrar: NameSilo, LLC
Registrant State/Province: AZ
whois coinxes.io
Creation Date: 2024-06-10T17:57:20Z
Registrar: NameSilo, LLC
Registrant State/Province: AZ
whois ybex.io
Creation Date: 2023-06-02T17:00:00Z
Registrar: NameSilo, LLC
Registrant State/Province: AZ
whois marketexchange.io
Creation Date: 2024-08-26T09:06:27Z
Registrar: NameSilo, LLC
Registrant State/Province: AZ
whois godbex.io
Registrar: NameSilo, LLC
Creation Date: 2024-11-07T15:57:16Z
Registrant State/Province: AZ
this alone is enough evidence to know they are all controlled by the same person/entity. like what are the odds all the domains are .io and are all registered with the same registrar?
57. Post 65529911 (unedited backup) (by Alone055) (scraped on Sat Jun 28 20:24:01 CEST 2025) in Little things that bug you/me about the forum:
I'll only provide one counter-argument: what if a topic starter goes crazy and wipes everything? Some users could even drop back in Rank if that wiped their Merit.
Fair enough. Then I guess we'll have to leave things as they are, because I don't think disabling merits for a whole thread is reasonable.
Here's another forum suggestion:
Some users turned the title of their posts (or more likely: topics) into something that can't be clicked. You'll have to look at the page source to find the link now. Even if it's empty, clicking the link would at least show the topicID, which allows to look it up on external archives.
Would it be possible to make
something other than the title clickable? Say the post number, the date, or even the "/"?
Post numbers are already clickable:
58. Post 65529594 (unedited backup) (by blomen) (scraped on Sat Jun 28 18:35:19 CEST 2025) in Türkçe Bölümü Aylık Merit ve Mesaj İstatistikleri:
Selam arkadaşlar.
@LoyceV tarafından hazırlanan
The Future of Bitcointalk : Low Ranking Top Merit earners in the past 30 days diye bir başlıkta kendi sıramda üçüncü sırada olduğumu gördüm ve bu güzel haberi burada da duyurmak istedim. Sıralama bugün güncellenmiş. Türkçe bölümü olarak ben çok değerli bilgileri görüyorum forumda. Forumun özellikle Meta kısmına sıklıkla bakmak gerekiyor, çok güzel bilgiler ve istatistikler hazırlanmış.
Konu :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185736.msg65528163#msg65528163kendiminkine de bir bakayım dedim, ben zirveyi üstteki mesajda yaşamışım. sizin de açtığınız konular çok iyi pür dikkat okuyorum hepsini. böyle devam ederseniz yüksek ranklara çok hızlı çıkarsınız
59. Post 65528499 (unedited backup) (by Wake Up) (scraped on Sat Jun 28 11:15:50 CEST 2025) in Türkçe Bölümü Aylık Merit ve Mesaj İstatistikleri:
Selam arkadaşlar. @LoyceV tarafından hazırlanan The Future of Bitcointalk : Low Ranking Top Merit earners in the past 30 days diye bir başlıkta kendi sıramda üçüncü sırada olduğumu gördüm ve bu güzel haberi burada da duyurmak istedim. Sıralama bugün güncellenmiş. Türkçe bölümü olarak ben çok değerli bilgileri görüyorum forumda. Forumun özellikle Meta kısmına sıklıkla bakmak gerekiyor, çok güzel bilgiler ve istatistikler hazırlanmış.
Konu :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185736.msg65528163#msg65528163
60. Post 65528222 (unedited backup) (by babo) (scraped on Sat Jun 28 08:52:55 CEST 2025) in The future of Bitcointalk: Low Ranking Top Merit earners in the past 30 days:
nice and very useful
question, but on your site do you by any chance not have a json, a csv, an xml of this data?
It would be useful for me to be able to access it to make some nice graphs
thanks LoyceV, as always a guarantee of the forum
I asked you for some files to avoid scraping the forum.
61. Post 65527468 (unedited backup) (by Lillominato89) (scraped on Fri Jun 27 23:50:43 CEST 2025) in I'm a Legend!:
Il mio obbiettivo l'ho raggiunto e ne sono più che contento, ovviamente non mi fermerò qui ma continuerò a essere presente il più tempo possibile e scalare la classifica, sono a buon punto, mi manca soltanto scavalcare 1024 utenti ahahah.
Dai prossimo step entrare nella top 500 non sarebbe male che ne dite?
Perché esiste una classifica dei migliori utenti?
Se si dove si può visionare?
Ti risparmio la fatica: @fillippone è al primo posto in tutte le categorie
Dici davvero? Quindi il migliore utente lo abbiamo noi?
Visto che crea post davvero interessanti e pieni grafici e statistiche potevo anche aspettarmelo, ma pensavo che ci fossero molti altri utenti tra le prime posizioni.
Pero nella foto che ha postato lillominato89 ci sono dati e icone che io non vedo su di voi, come mai?
Allora la classifica esiste ma non è ufficialmente una classifica del forum, o per meglio dire è fornita da un sito terzo, la puoi trovare su bpip.org che è praticamente un database a tutti gli effetti dove puoi trovare le statistiche di ogni singolo utente di questo forum compreso te stesso.
Ogni utente ha una pagina dove puoi vedere i Merit guadagnati e quelli inviati, i feedback le Activity, chi sono i tuoi fans (cioè chi ti manda i Merit, e sappi che anche in questo caso fillippone è il miglior tifoso di ogniuno di noi
) chi sono i tuoi utenti preferiti o meglio a chi invii i Merit e tanto altro che non ricordo momentaneamente.
Per quanto riguarda i dati e le icone che vedi sotto il mio profilo nella foto, quello è un Add-ons di Firefox appunto di bpip, basta aggiungerlo e puoi vederlo anche tu, le icone si riferiscono ad alcuni progetti, uno è bpip, uno è ninjastic e uno è loycev's su quest'ultimo lascio la parola a fillippone o babo per spiegarti cosa sia, ninjastic è un sito dove puoi vedere le tue statistiche, quanti post scrivo dove li scrivi, quanti Merit guadagni in un certo lasso di tempo ecc ecc ecc. Dai uno sguardo tu stesso, sono carini
62. Post 65526512 (unedited backup) (by virasog) (scraped on Fri Jun 27 18:39:13 CEST 2025) in Unstoppable wallet {User experiences}:
Synchronization issues is something I noticed with Unstoppable Wallet the first time I tested it and it immediately gave me bad vibes and I didn't like it. This is again something related to the wallet not syncing properly. Does the problem at least get fixed after the transaction confirms on the blockchain or after a restart of the app or do the wrong balances remain for a lengthier time?
I never had any sync issues , maybe because I store coins which have no sync issues in Unstoppable. I heard LTC having sync issues (I don't have litecoins), and also I don't use Unstoppable for Bitcoin. For Ethereum, Solana and most of the Ethereum and Solana-based altcoins, there are no issues at all in this wallet.
For LTC, I've had sync problems
since October 2023. It's been working correctly on and off, which makes it unreliable. For this reason, I finally uninstalled Unstoppable wallet. It doesn't do the name justice.
So, which wallet do you use these days for altcoins and especially what is the best wallet for stablecoins (USDT / USDC) ?
63. Post 65526159 (unedited backup) (by vapourminer) (scraped on Fri Jun 27 16:46:25 CEST 2025) in Little things that bug you/me about the forum:
These "other users" you speak of... a couple of them perpetuate the cycle and so the farmers return, like a festering plague. To be fair, sometimes people (myself included) don't even realize they are meriting an account farming weasel (and you probably don't even like their other accounts) until its too late.
All true. But I don't think that's enough to kill Merit in that thread.
Now that I think about it: Merit could be isolated there: I often see "+1 WO Merit" written in that topic. This could actually be made into a thing: WO Merit that only shows in the WO thread. Users could even have different ranks there than on the rest of the forum. And now that I type it, I don't think it's very useful (but it sounds fun).
we would game that system to the utmost maximum for the fun. +WOmerit banks, loans, futures, im sure this could go on for.. a while. or not
i mean, come on its the WO
64. Post 65526126 (unedited backup) (by nutildah) (scraped on Fri Jun 27 16:34:49 CEST 2025) in Little things that bug you/me about the forum:
All true. But I don't think that's enough to kill Merit in that thread.
I suppose "popular consensus" deemed that it is not. I will live somehow, I suppose. However, I still think it would be fun to have an option to turn merits off when creating new threads. Could be useful if a thread creator wants to dissuade posters whose sole goal is to obtain merits...
Now that I think about it: Merit could be isolated there: I often see "+1 WO Merit" written in that topic. This could actually be made into a thing: WO Merit that only shows in the WO thread. Users could even have different ranks there than on the rest of the forum. And now that I type it, I don't think it's very useful (but it sounds fun).
I remember at some point one or two WO regulars did (somewhat jokingly) attempt to keep track of peoples' WOmerits. Then a
"game" was even developed to use WOmerits for making price prediction bets.
65. Post 65525943 (unedited backup) (by nutildah) (scraped on Fri Jun 27 15:36:25 CEST 2025) in Little things that bug you/me about the forum:
Of many posts in WO deserve merits. And many users there doesn't even have a signature campaign..
Yeah so they don't need merits... not to re-open this can of worms but its long been a hive for merit farming suckups, who IMHO detract from the overall vibe of the WO.
The problem (if there is such a thing) is that some Newbies use it to earn (or "farm") Merit, but that only works because some other users think their posts are worth it.
These "other users" you speak of... a couple of them perpetuate the cycle and so the farmers return, like a festering plague. To be fair, sometimes people (myself included) don't even realize they are meriting an account farming weasel (and you probably don't even like their other accounts) until its too late.
66. Post 65525548 (unedited backup) (by Alone055) (scraped on Fri Jun 27 13:16:37 CEST 2025) in Bitcointalk Appreciation Thread:
Also, new registrations are asked to pay a certain evil fee here as penance for a crime one never committed. Altcoinstalks is free registration.
Actually, the evil fee you are referring to isn't something that everyone has to pay when they are creating an account on Bitcointalk, but it's only added or asked for accounts that are created using an IP address that was previously used to create an account, and that account got banned. When an account gets banned, that IP and some nearby IPs get an evil score. This is what @theymos said about it:
When you register, the IP that you used when you submitted the registration form is used to calculate your evilness. The more frequently this IP or its neighbors were banned, the more evil is associated with your account. The amount of evil associated with an IP decays slowly over time, but the amount of evil associated with an account does not. You must pay or be manually whitelisted to enable posting on one of these "banned" accounts.
We also have some reputed members, such as @LoyceV, who can whitelist users upon request in
their thread, and then they won't need to pay the evil fee. Still, there is no guarantee that one is going to get whitelisted only by requesting, because @theymos said that the process shouldn't allow people to evade bans. Still, it should be a relief for those who didn't do anything wrong but got an evil score because of someone else doing something wrong around them:
If any very-veteran members want to volunteer, I can give you the ability to whitelist users. (All Staff can already whitelist users, as well.) Perhaps then someone could create a topic like "List of email addresses for people who can whitelist you for free", which I could link-to on the evil fee page. However, these IPs have evil for a reason. If it was sufficient for them to just solve a captcha or something, I'd have them do that. Before whitelisting someone, you have to do something to be pretty sure that they're not evading a ban and just going to get banned again. You may get the impression from complaints on the forum that everyone hits the fee and it's never warranted, but this is selection bias: the fee is more rare, and the vast majority of accounts that hit it should not be whitelisted.
So, it's something to punish the rule breakers and not for every new and normal user.
67. Post 65525487 (unedited backup) (by promise444c5) (scraped on Fri Jun 27 12:56:07 CEST 2025) in DT-members who have negative feedback (or are banned):
Yeah it does work and it uses the list from LoyceV ,mentioned on his/her thread
instead of me updating the list from time to time. Also, it has both extension and the user-script attached..Its more like using the list without having to search manually through the file.
bpip was created by suchmoon? i don't remember - thanks to all
BPIP is owned by
ibminer&suchmoon, they are the
BPIP team..
68. Post 65523312 (unedited backup) (by Flexie80) (scraped on Thu Jun 26 20:12:31 CEST 2025) in false xyes.com banner:
@holydarkness this is not about a proof that a warning was sent from Betby to XYes, this is about proof that there was arbitrage betting. For that you would need to have 2 bet slips, both with comparable stakes on the opposite outcomes of the same event. This is not do-able on the same bookmaker (because they have a bookie margin that makes it impossible to arb within the same book) so the 2nd betting slip would have to be from another book (for example Pinnacle) and it would be impossible for you nor XYes to have obtained this.
The problem here is, that's the exact same side of the coin. It's the cause and effect instead of two separate matters. Speaking in general, the provider sent their flag to casinos about arbing or other violation the providers detect, and the casinos act accordingly to this flag. The casino does not need two bet slips to compare stakes of the opposite outcome of the same events, the provider did this.
All bets were submitted to the providers. They have all the bet slips and the history. And as established, arbing has telltale. Overtime, these telltale became more and more prominent that the provider will notice. Also has been established, both casinos and provider has their own detection algorithms. Sooner or later, the provider will catch up, and after that, it's only matter of time for them to catch the arbing by matching the history of repeated strange numbers across casinos, then a flag raised.
Not to mention that it is not too far fetched to think that it is possible that those providers communicate with each others in terms of crosschecking violators. Everyone hates violators. And enemy of my enemy is my friend, so, is it impossible to think Betby say, "hi Pinnacle, I'm sending you user with this details, can you share me his betslips from date x to y? I'll return with the result."?And once that flag raised, it follows you everywhere. You can buy time by using different device or email or wallet, but their detection is [as I've witnessed myself] very complex, they'll catch up with you, eventually.
[...]
I thought, since holydarkness has been doing this for a long time, the company should be able to show the proof to him, and he should be able to do it for the player. I initially mentioned LoyceV and holydarkness since they are reputed forum members. But you already accused holydarkness of being a liar. I would be happy to invite nutildah since he has been watching the thread for a while. I would talk to Xyes and send the documents to them to verify. But there is no guarantee you would stop spreading FUD Rating Place. You might say LoyceV or even nutildah lies. So, what is the solution actually? Pay the extortionists?
No need for that. I've come to the precipice of coming to the end of this case. Introducing another prominent member will only force them to face the unnecessary character assasination and mud slinging that you just witnessed for the past two pages of a supposedly headache-free* case. My name is already full of mud from the haters who can't accept a verdict of a case. I can take more.
Not to mention that XYes will have to start from the beginning again. Which... rather likely will then ends up just like what happened here with me. Then we look for another DT, and the circe restarted. As I'm nearing the end of it, might as well endure another mud-slinging and put my thick skin and focus on the player and case at hand and ignore unnecessary noises from statement-chameleon.
*as long as you take favor of the player
I've been waiting here for more than 3 weeks for proof of my arbitration, will I wait for them or will I listen to strange accusations for the amounts of bets that I placed on sports. Everyone has had enough that xyes casino is simply deceiving everyone, they deceived everyone with their fake license, their fake casino without kyc verification, their fake 800 thousand players. And people with avatar casino are still trying to prove us the opposite? You are already funny, bring your casino here and let them prove my arbitration, if they can't then these accusations are a lie like everything else.
OP, focus on me.
This is
my latest proposal [#99] to see the end of this case. My attempt to deescalate matters. As what I always do. If I may repeat and make it easier:
1. They will void your supposed arb-winnning, amounted
208.032. They will honor your legitimate winning, amounted
733.473. If I recall correctly, they've return your principal of
4104. Thus, the amount payable to you is
323.47Do you accept this?
If you do, I'll try to talk them into it. I can't guarantee they'll accept, but I'll try and give my best. Otherwise, find other who want to
mediate "bridge".
Hahaha, you have absolutely no idea how sportsbetting works obviously. Pinnacle is an ARB-FRIENDLY bookmaker so they are never ever gonna share user details. They trust their lines enough that anyone is welcome to bet on it without ever getting limited or banned. So surely they are not gonna leak personal data of users to third parties.
Also, how on earth does Betby know if it was Pinnacle that was used as the 2nd book for the arb? It could just as easily have been an asian book, or an exchange, are they really gonna contact them all?
And next to that, most asians and exchanges (and Pinnacle too) are also accessible via betting brokers, where it's even impossible to trace down a bet to a name of the person placing this bet.
Absolutely bullshit what you are suggesting here.
It is very simple: Betby can spot value betting, not arbing.
My purpose is not to sling mud at you, my purpose is to teach you a bit of how sportsbetting works. Because from reading your posts I can see you don't know much yet. You probably dealt mostly with casino related cases. I am not saying you are a bad person but I'm saying you judgement is clouded by a lack of understanding of the sportsbetting business.
My last lesson then: Yes, Pinnacle may have been just an example. But with any arb there is a soft and a sharp bookie involved. Betby clearly is the soft side, so the arb side can be several books: Pinnacle, Exchanges or Asians. They all have in common that they have so much confidence in their lines that they do not limit individually and thus are arb-friendly. There is no cheating involved by betting on those books so they will never give up user data.
You can throw away your idea of another book sharing a bet slip with a name to it. Absolutely impossible.
It is very simple: Betby noticed that all or most bets of the user were on value odds, hence they labelled him a value bettor with +EV bets. This is not forbidden according to XYes terms. And to still be able to confiscate the winnings XYes changed the wording from value to arb. And that is nasty.
69. Post 65523213 (unedited backup) (by Flexie80) (scraped on Thu Jun 26 19:42:07 CEST 2025) in false xyes.com banner:
@holydarkness this is not about a proof that a warning was sent from Betby to XYes, this is about proof that there was arbitrage betting. For that you would need to have 2 bet slips, both with comparable stakes on the opposite outcomes of the same event. This is not do-able on the same bookmaker (because they have a bookie margin that makes it impossible to arb within the same book) so the 2nd betting slip would have to be from another book (for example Pinnacle) and it would be impossible for you nor XYes to have obtained this.
The problem here is, that's the exact same side of the coin. It's the cause and effect instead of two separate matters. Speaking in general, the provider sent their flag to casinos about arbing or other violation the providers detect, and the casinos act accordingly to this flag. The casino does not need two bet slips to compare stakes of the opposite outcome of the same events, the provider did this.
All bets were submitted to the providers. They have all the bet slips and the history. And as established, arbing has telltale. Overtime, these telltale became more and more prominent that the provider will notice. Also has been established, both casinos and provider has their own detection algorithms. Sooner or later, the provider will catch up, and after that, it's only matter of time for them to catch the arbing by matching the history of repeated strange numbers across casinos, then a flag raised.
Not to mention that it is not too far fetched to think that it is possible that those providers communicate with each others in terms of crosschecking violators. Everyone hates violators. And enemy of my enemy is my friend, so, is it impossible to think Betby say, "hi Pinnacle, I'm sending you user with this details, can you share me his betslips from date x to y? I'll return with the result."?And once that flag raised, it follows you everywhere. You can buy time by using different device or email or wallet, but their detection is [as I've witnessed myself] very complex, they'll catch up with you, eventually.
[...]
I thought, since holydarkness has been doing this for a long time, the company should be able to show the proof to him, and he should be able to do it for the player. I initially mentioned LoyceV and holydarkness since they are reputed forum members. But you already accused holydarkness of being a liar. I would be happy to invite nutildah since he has been watching the thread for a while. I would talk to Xyes and send the documents to them to verify. But there is no guarantee you would stop spreading FUD Rating Place. You might say LoyceV or even nutildah lies. So, what is the solution actually? Pay the extortionists?
No need for that. I've come to the precipice of coming to the end of this case. Introducing another prominent member will only force them to face the unnecessary character assasination and mud slinging that you just witnessed for the past two pages of a supposedly headache-free* case. My name is already full of mud from the haters who can't accept a verdict of a case. I can take more.
Not to mention that XYes will have to start from the beginning again. Which... rather likely will then ends up just like what happened here with me. Then we look for another DT, and the circe restarted. As I'm nearing the end of it, might as well endure another mud-slinging and put my thick skin and focus on the player and case at hand and ignore unnecessary noises from statement-chameleon.
*as long as you take favor of the player
I've been waiting here for more than 3 weeks for proof of my arbitration, will I wait for them or will I listen to strange accusations for the amounts of bets that I placed on sports. Everyone has had enough that xyes casino is simply deceiving everyone, they deceived everyone with their fake license, their fake casino without kyc verification, their fake 800 thousand players. And people with avatar casino are still trying to prove us the opposite? You are already funny, bring your casino here and let them prove my arbitration, if they can't then these accusations are a lie like everything else.
OP, focus on me.
This is
my latest proposal [#99] to see the end of this case. My attempt to deescalate matters. As what I always do. If I may repeat and make it easier:
1. They will void your supposed arb-winnning, amounted
208.032. They will honor your legitimate winning, amounted
733.473. If I recall correctly, they've return your principal of
4104. Thus, the amount payable to you is
323.47Do you accept this?
If you do, I'll try to talk them into it. I can't guarantee they'll accept, but I'll try and give my best. Otherwise, find other who want to
mediate "bridge".
Hahaha, you have absolutely no idea how sportsbetting works obviously. Pinnacle is an ARB-FRIENDLY bookmaker so they are never ever gonna share user details. They trust their lines enough that anyone is welcome to bet on it without ever getting limited or banned. So surely they are not gonna leak personal data of users to third parties.
Also, how on earth does Betby know if it was Pinnacle that was used as the 2nd book for the arb? It could just as easily have been an asian book, or an exchange, are they really gonna contact them all?
And next to that, most asians and exchanges (and Pinnacle too) are also accessible via betting brokers, where it's even impossible to trace down a bet to a name of the person placing this bet.
Absolutely bullshit what you are suggesting here.
It is very simple: Betby can spot value betting, not arbing.
70. Post 65522702 (unedited backup) (by vapourminer) (scraped on Thu Jun 26 17:07:55 CEST 2025) in Auto detect Scams, Spam and AI in the forum:
there's no way I'm going to entertain the idea of talking with a bot while thinking I'm talking with an actual human.
This nicely summarizes the problem. It's demotivating for humans to be surrounded by posting bots.
i find i automatically blow by probably half the post i see without reading them, as they all are basically the same length and style. i may find one post in ten that ill actually read as it seems to be a human. heck ill even read shitposts just because theyre human.
any AI poster and such goes on ignore. instantly. as that account can never be trusted again.
71. Post 65522367 (unedited backup) (by nutildah) (scraped on Thu Jun 26 15:16:43 CEST 2025) in 🍕 Bitcoin Pizza Day on Bitcointalk:
Which brings me to the next shower thought: what if everyone were to freeze their pizza, and ship it frozen to a pizza escrow. The escrow chops all pizzas into 200 parts, and anyone who wants to vote can order
200 144 frozen and numbered pizza particles for a taste test. The winner of the pizza tasting gets to sell pizzas for Bitcoin
What if the pizza escrow scams everyone? Lol
Honestly most of the pizzas look pretty bad. No offense. But I can kind of imagine how they'd taste already and, nah I'm good. Pizza Escrow only needs to send me about 15 pieces. Of course dividing a pizza into 200 parts means you might get a sliver of crust or something, which might not be very representative of the pizza's overall taste. Please tell the Pizza Escrow that I want middle pieces only.
72. Post 65522084 (unedited backup) (by OrangeFren) (scraped on Thu Jun 26 13:34:19 CEST 2025) in OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison:
btw. I've checked, swapping 0.01 BTC to USDT (ERC20), the first two "best" results are OctoSwap and Hellex. However, in real exchanges, they offer a much worse exchange rate.
I checked just now and they seemed ok, I'll keep an eye out for it.
Suggestion: When I search to exchange a certain amount, you link to the site with a referral id. But what's missing in the link is the trade pair I'm looking for, so I have to enter it again on the site. Could you add the trade pair to the link? That's what your competitor does.
We already do that for some exchanges, but most don't support it. We'll reach out to their teams and ask if there's an undocumented way of doing it.
Suggestion: your drop-down menu with coins has many duplicates: BTC is in there 5 times, LTC 4 times, and more. That list should be a lot shorter.
Ah, you're right! That's odd. On it.
73. Post 65521833 (unedited backup) (by holydarkness) (scraped on Thu Jun 26 11:54:43 CEST 2025) in false xyes.com banner:
@holydarkness this is not about a proof that a warning was sent from Betby to XYes, this is about proof that there was arbitrage betting. For that you would need to have 2 bet slips, both with comparable stakes on the opposite outcomes of the same event. This is not do-able on the same bookmaker (because they have a bookie margin that makes it impossible to arb within the same book) so the 2nd betting slip would have to be from another book (for example Pinnacle) and it would be impossible for you nor XYes to have obtained this.
The problem here is, that's the exact same side of the coin. It's the cause and effect instead of two separate matters. Speaking in general, the provider sent their flag to casinos about arbing or other violation the providers detect, and the casinos act accordingly to this flag. The casino does not need two bet slips to compare stakes of the opposite outcome of the same events, the provider did this.
All bets were submitted to the providers. They have all the bet slips and the history. And as established, arbing has telltale. Overtime, these telltale became more and more prominent that the provider will notice. Also has been established, both casinos and provider has their own detection algorithms. Sooner or later, the provider will catch up, and after that, it's only matter of time for them to catch the arbing by matching the history of repeated strange numbers across casinos, then a flag raised.
Not to mention that it is not too far fetched to think that it is possible that those providers communicate with each others in terms of crosschecking violators. Everyone hates violators. And enemy of my enemy is my friend, so, is it impossible to think Betby say, "hi Pinnacle, I'm sending you user with this details, can you share me his betslips from date x to y? I'll return with the result."?
And once that flag raised, it follows you everywhere. You can buy time by using different device or email or wallet, but their detection is [as I've witnessed myself] very complex, they'll catch up with you, eventually.
[...]
I thought, since holydarkness has been doing this for a long time, the company should be able to show the proof to him, and he should be able to do it for the player. I initially mentioned LoyceV and holydarkness since they are reputed forum members. But you already accused holydarkness of being a liar. I would be happy to invite nutildah since he has been watching the thread for a while. I would talk to Xyes and send the documents to them to verify. But there is no guarantee you would stop spreading FUD Rating Place. You might say LoyceV or even nutildah lies. So, what is the solution actually? Pay the extortionists?
No need for that. I've come to the precipice of coming to the end of this case. Introducing another prominent member will only force them to face the unnecessary character assasination and mud slinging that you just witnessed for the past two pages of a supposedly headache-free* case. My name is already full of mud from the haters who can't accept a verdict of a case. I can take more.
Not to mention that XYes will have to start from the beginning again. Which... rather likely will then ends up just like what happened here with me. Then we look for another DT, and the circe restarted. As I'm nearing the end of it, might as well endure another mud-slinging and put my thick skin and focus on the player and case at hand and ignore unnecessary noises from statement-chameleon.
*as long as you take favor of the player
I've been waiting here for more than 3 weeks for proof of my arbitration, will I wait for them or will I listen to strange accusations for the amounts of bets that I placed on sports. Everyone has had enough that xyes casino is simply deceiving everyone, they deceived everyone with their fake license, their fake casino without kyc verification, their fake 800 thousand players. And people with avatar casino are still trying to prove us the opposite? You are already funny, bring your casino here and let them prove my arbitration, if they can't then these accusations are a lie like everything else.
OP, focus on me.
This is
my latest proposal [#99] to see the end of this case. My attempt to deescalate matters. As what I always do. If I may repeat and make it easier:
1. They will void your supposed arb-winnning, amounted
208.032. They will honor your legitimate winning, amounted
733.473. If I recall correctly, they've return your principal of
4104. Thus, the amount payable to you is
323.47Do you accept this?
If you do, I'll try to talk them into it. I can't guarantee they'll accept, but I'll try and give my best. Otherwise, find other who want to
mediate "bridge".
74. Post 65521241 (unedited backup) (by God Of Thunder) (scraped on Thu Jun 26 07:32:43 CEST 2025) in false xyes.com banner:
@holydarkness this is not about a proof that a warning was sent from Betby to XYes, this is about proof that there was arbitrage betting. For that you would need to have 2 bet slips, both with comparable stakes on the opposite outcomes of the same event. This is not do-able on the same bookmaker (because they have a bookie margin that makes it impossible to arb within the same book) so the 2nd betting slip would have to be from another book (for example Pinnacle) and it would be impossible for you nor XYes to have obtained this.
Have you ever seen a casino post a screenshot of two bet slips to prove that a player was doing arbitrage activity? Can you share any examples from this forum? I don't think even Betby sends the other bet information to the casino. All they do is mark the bet ID and user ID and warn the casino about the arbitrage activity. Forget about how much the player made or what is going to be. According to the casino rules, arbitrage betting is not allowed. Usually, casinos never share this information with anyone except for mediator services. So, why not create a complaint on the mediator website and invite Xyes to prove their claims instead of spreading FUD?
I thought, since holydarkness has been doing this for a long time, the company should be able to show the proof to him, and he should be able to do it for the player. I initially mentioned LoyceV and holydarkness since they are reputed forum members. But you already accused holydarkness of being a liar. I would be happy to invite nutildah since he has been watching the thread for a while. I would talk to Xyes and send the documents to them to verify. But there is no guarantee you would stop spreading FUD Rating Place. You might say LoyceV or even nutildah lies. So, what is the solution actually? Pay the extortionists?
