You do have a valid point, but imho in the same way people are not perfect, this trust system is also not perfect.
Sadly I don't have a really good idea how to make it better, but maybe some kind of "separation of powers" may be of help and maybe this is one new such power/estate, if done properly.

I don't know if the idea was thought well, maybe 1miau needs more time or some help with good ideas instead of negativity... I somehow hoped for more support for the good intention, at least...

Why did he played with people's feelings? I also welcome him back but he need a slap before hugging him.


This is not an invitation if he said not pm you first about it.

Before anything, I would like to say a very warm WELCOME BACK to 1miau! I am glad to see him returning...


About this project, I am very honored to see he considered to assign me as a co-founder but, to be honest, this took me by surprise, as we did not talk anything about this before the thread was launched. lovesmayfamilis was right... I did not know about this.

In any case -- and I am saying this as gently and polite as possible -- I will have to decline this invitation. I share the opinions of LoyceV and of nutildah (at least first line of his post).

So while I am touched to see that 1miau took me in consideration, I will not be part of this.

Hey, I didn't ask for any of this!
Just pick someone else to steal a life from

That’s a possibility I have considered. But I don’t think LoyceV would risk his reputation for this game. That would be stupid.
To avoid any risk of cheating, you can wait for LoyceV to submit his prediction first, and then make yours.
We could make a special rule where LoyceV has 2 hours before the deadline to submit their prediction. I don’t know what time zone you are in, but that would give you at least 2 hours to react.
Is that okay with both of you ?

So LoyceV is apparently going to see my prediction 

Let the battle between Hypnotizer and LoyceV begin !!
For this special round, you can only make one prediction via LoyceV’s PM publisher.
The winner of this round will not lose a life and will also win 10BTC. Unfortunately, the loser will lose a life.
The other participants can take a few days off.

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Round 16.5 : The duel round
What will be the price of Bitcoin at April 29, 2026, 12:00:00 AM (BTC closing price on 28/04/2026) ?
Submit your predictions before April 27, 2026, 06:00:00 PM.

Cash shop: OPEN (only for the duelists).
 
Special rules : None

what was weird in my case is that I posted your guide for negative trust and it was more or less just ignored.

Let’s get the duel started….

due to popular demand, I’m going for LoyceV even though I know I probably will lose but I want to get eliminated in dignity.. 

..poor examplens, 1% malus threw him away,
I didn't even need to have spent my btcs hehehee...

- but @Halab,

 I want to see the duel between Hypnotizer and L0YcYv hehehehe, !!!!!111

and even so I'll want to buy life now, because I want to feel
with both feet inside this game!!

-waiting for the duel to start!!

Round 16 is now over, here are the results :

Closing price on 25/04/2026 : 77 619$

Name	Prediction	B/M	Final prediction	Difference
ESG	76 930,84	0% malus	76 930,84	688,16
cryptofrka	76 750,00		76 750,00	869,00
Pmalek	76 407,00		76 407,00	1 212,00
examplens	78 260,00	1% malus	79 042,60	1 423,60
Leahized	75 120,00		75 120,00	2 499,00
Hypnotizer	75 098,45	0,25% malus	74 910,70	2 708,30
LoyceV	82 194,65		82 194,65	4 575,65

                              

ESG, this round is definitely yours. Your rules, your win, your 50BTC.
But I’m going to add a little house rule (the situation forces me to, nothing personnal). ESG, with those 104 BTC, are you buying a second life now ? 
If so, you will be eligible to be chosen for the duel (round 16.5).
If not, I won’t allow you to spend those 104BTC until after the end of round 17. You will always have your 104BTC. I promise.

Ho no LoyceV, you are the last one. What a loser. But your protection is effective, so you don't lose anything.

Hypnotizer, you didn't have enough BTC to cancel your malus. But you should also have given yourself a bonus to keep from losing your last life.
Your participation in this game is hanging by a thread. You have one last chance with the duel card.
We will wait for ESG's decision to see who you can challenge to a duel.
For now, you can challenge :

Name	Life(s)	BTC	Comment
Leahized	♥♥	97	Hunter's card
LoyceV	♥♥♥	25

and maybe ESG.   

You so lucky, Closer to your prediction. You will see it soon.

Let's see here, What's going on with LoyceV.

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That's great news, indeed! 1miau, if you receive this notification, welcome back!!


Fixed!

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As LoyceV pointed out, this is a pretty purposeless endeavor as this type of problem is already handled by DT. If you disagree with the way DT is doing things, you should speak up about it. Aside from a few outliers, we are pretty amenable to considering new input.

Plus its kinda weird to have claimed your account was "dead" and then change your mind about that. I guess it was an over-dramatization.

Saving to afford my third life..

Also this PM round doesn’t give you that adavantage luke when it’s public..and I’m kinda somehow busy this few days.

uhm…I realized that too late, that is why i probably would get eliminated along the way..


I saw what you did there…

But it really doesn’t matter since no one can probably ever break that record before this battle ends.

You are very welcome in our alliance.

Many thanks for your feedback.
The alliance will be decentralized where every unique feedback according to DT standards comes into play.

The are no rules exept the guide from LoyceV about how to leave trust.
The alliance is rather ment a defensive one, which should protect against unjustified feedbacks simply to make it unattractive to unfairly accuses and unjustified negative trust.

Golden words. Let me recall one user with the nickname "Ratimov." The guy worked so hard to achieve fame. Dozens of new open and seemingly useful topics, the most generous merit source for beginners, and the best reporter, he competed hard with many in the knowledge of the "best." But alas, how did it end? His fame only brought him problems, as his vanity grew to such a point that those around him turned into plebeians, after which he left the forum with swearing and insults.

Is this what the forum wanted? Those who come to the forum just like that, without ambitions but being sincere, will not rush to power or anything else in order to rise up and get some "buns" as soon as possible. And others, trying to create competition here and there, end up rather stupidly.

After all, the saying is that "the higher you fly, the more painful it is to fall"; for some, it sometimes becomes a good conclusion for their lives.

If the price of bitcoin ends at 78000 today, with you will have a duel. Hypnotizer has 0,25% malus. And you will be lose a life. Hahaha

Another question,

that may survive to the end, he will be get the reward?

Man, you sabotage me every round.
Just wait until I win one, revenge is served cold. 

-Still has a chance to win again.

I honestly thought you'd offer Leahized money and protection for the Hunter card.
Other than that, going for the most bullish (or bearish) prediction and protecting yourself was the only play.

Glad you went this route, now I hope Leahized loses a life so we can discuss the Hunter card. It's difficult to negotiate when people feel safe

Ha.

I'm pretty sure there's literally a million posts with a variation of hOw dO i lEaRn aBouT bItCOin?

It has never been easier to learn about something. You don't even need to find the right website anymore, Google will answer your questions for you. At the same time, I don't think people have ever been more lazy. We're gearing up for an interesting future.

I just realized that examplens' PM was indeed sent, but it doesn't show up on LoyceVs' PM publisher page. So I'm posting this screenshot as proof of his prediction :

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Everyone has sent their PM, so here are your predictions for round 16 :

Name	Prediction	B/M
Hypnotizer	75 098,45	0,25% malus
Leahized	75 120,00
Pmalek	76 407,00
cryptofrka	76 750,00
ESG	76 930,84	0,00% malus
examplens	78 260,00	1,00% malus
LoyceV	82 194,65

                  

And the user protected by LoyceV is... LoyceV !! It’s easy to see why he’s so courageously bullish this time .

i like to read the forum. i like to merit posts. i go many days without posting.

so the current "Recently" on "Last forum visit" in my profile is useless. the merits give me away.

LoyceV had a good suggestion; the forum/script collects a users merits to send as he reads them and only send them the next post. as posting obviously needs to be real time. but me sending merits does not have to be real time, they can wait till the next time i post. so the merits from me to others would suddenly pile in at once.

however the forum currently lacks this capability. odd for such a wealthy forum.

I added the server when I wanted to know if Cake can pay sub 1 sat/vbtye fee but it was not able to. I have changed to 2 other servers and one other that has the name of cake wallet but all are not working. I decided to leave it on one if the servers and I restart the wallet and it showed the balance.

But I am confused because the node I added which was the last on the list was shown to be working:

It's not a big deal it's sometimes either a derivation path issue or a syncing problem. All the times I've faced this issue on cake wallet you just have to continue refreshing the wallet it will eventually display if it doesn't you can close the app and re open it probably a couple times it fixes itself.

Anytime I hear mycelium I get a stomach ache lol... It's literally the king of derivation path issues and that's a newbie killer. Nonetheless the only wallet I've never really had similar issues with is ELECTRUM.

Hide prediction is dangerous for me. save me this time.

If I can win once without losing my life, maybe I will be stronger, like you

They can join social media for finding job opportunities and can use their personal photos, with information about their occupational skills and previous job positions. These things are necessary for their accounts but if they care more about privacy, they won't post more sensitive personal information than these ones, and DON'T flex their lives on social media more than what is most necessary for job finding accounts.

Like LoyceV once posted that he taught his kids don't post personal photos on social media.

Privacy is really hard to protect especially with Internet and many social media platforms now but there are things to learn and apply for better privacy.
https://bitcoin.org/en/protect-your-privacy
https://bitcoiner.guide/privacy/
https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information/privacy.html

more for fun, nothing against you man, you are sure to take advantage
 that you will already take 0.75%M,....
 
 the situation of loyceV with three lives is worrying....

But surely now the protégé will be him,....

As for me, I'm one foot in, and the other foot out of the game....hehehe  lets fun!

Take it easy, man, I'm not the one threatening. LoyceV has 3 hearts, plus he uses some twilight zone methods 

You may want to correct your sentence to include the crucial missing word: "... have not ever mined an empty block."

Recent data on this page https://mempool.space/graphs/mining/pools shows that MARA Pool has mined 4 empty blocks in the time frame of last 6 months. So, naturally your cited report from 2024 is outdated. Foundry USA has indeed so far never mined an empty block. Only 4 empty blocks for MARA is still a pretty low value. And yes, it's a bit off-topic.

@LoyceV
I have no data and evidence that Foundry suffered a network disruption. Foundry saw both later staled blocks from competing pools, even mined shortly on top of them (it's briefly mentioned in 0xB10C's blog according to broadcasted Stratum work jobs by Foundry). But for some reason Foundry quickly abandoned mining on top of foreign blocks.

I can understand that because AFAIR Foundry found pretty quickly an own block 941881 (anchored to their own 941880) very shortly after Antpool's 941881. After this I don't remember atm the further facts.

If I didn't get it wrong, it makes no sense to me if and that Foundry saw ViaBTC's block 941882 (anchored to Antpool's 941881) and presumably mined very briefly on top of it depending on the timestamps of arrival of Foundry's 941881 and later Foundry's 941882 and ViaBTC's 941882.

To better argue, I will need to find the time and passion to compile timestamps from others what was published in the blog posts I provided links for.

When Foundry found their block 941883 and later 941884 plus 841885 anchored to their own sequence of blocks, the fate of the foreign pool's blocks was sealed and the "foreign" two-block chain branch got staled.

Foundry likely got a bit lucky, but there's still something odd, IIRC. But I need to compile the timestamps to better see the picture. May take some time as it's not the most urgent thing for me.

My point is not to accuse Foundry. I just find it interesting and in the last few years where I watch and monitor the blockchain somewhat more closely a more than one stale block branch hasn't happened. It's very very rare and that makes it interesting to look even closer. Thank you all for your patience and contributions so fare here.

I strongly disagree. That is just a glorified popularity contest IMO. It's fun for the community to participate in and I think the community enjoys it.

Users are definitely recognized via merits, some users are added to trust lists as they have demonstrated good judgement and have shown to be trustworthy, others like LoyceV have tons of information threads that people reference when others have a question which IMO is a great way to recognize a persons contribution to the forum.

At the end of the day, most of the well respected could care less about the pat on the back recognition, but the guys trying to come up are looking for a pat on the back. Do they really need it? You do good, you act accordingly, you help out where you can, you'll be known as a good user. Simple really.

What we need is something like demerit.


Legends even did not need merit to contribute to the forum years ago, and merit system was launched only because of spamming in the forum escalated to very high annoying unacceptable level in 2017 and 2018.


Forum needs demerit source applications against bad merit sources and official demerit too.

• LoyceV's deMerit source application
• Merit source unapplication
• SmartGold01 merit source or farmer?

High priority = I want my transaction confirmed in the next block and I don't want to risk having to wait longer.

They recommend 2 sat/vbyte, you pay 0.5 sat/vbyte and gets a quick next block confirmation, sure. But there was probably a non-zero risk of having to wait 10 extra minutes for a second block.

Right now:

-Mempool-
No priority 0,2
Low 0,2
Medium 0,5
High 1

-Electrum ETA-
Next block 3.2
Within 2 blocks 2.1
Within 5 blocks 1.2

I couldn't get < 1 sat v/byte with any option (i.e Mempool).

Thank you for feedback bro, happy to see you as well. Below is the list of restricted countries, I edited the post

Users from the following countries or regions are prohibited from using the Casino for real-money play: Afghanistan, Bahrain, Belarus, Canada – Province of New Brunswick, Canada – Province of Ontario, Central African Republic, China, Cuba, Cyprus, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Georgia, Greece, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Libya, Myanmar, Netherlands, North Korea, Poland, Romania, Russia, Somalia, South Sudan, Syria, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, Venezuela, Yemen, El Salvador, Belgium, Lithuania, Estonia, Brazil, Bulgaria, Guernsey (GG), Hawaii (USA), British Indian Ocean Territory (IO), Latvia, Japan, Jersey (JE), Gibraltar (GI), Virgin Islands (USA), Northern Mariana Islands (USA), Guam (USA), Puerto Rico (USA), American Samoa (USA).




Still work in progress. All of the channels are quite hard to deal with when it comes to casinos, so this is why the mirror site is there

Sometimes I have to receive random tokens, like BNB or pegged BTC in BNB chain, or USDT in solana chain or whatever... there are so many tokens and blockchains around. Metamask supports basically anything. You can also connect it to a hardware wallet. It is a good software...

Lo…LoyceV I saw what you did there..

 

What a beautiful neigotiation…

So you’re tempting him to accept your proposal so he can buy a third life!   

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@Halab…I’m having a feeling I might be part of the people that will get a Malia in this wicked round, so I’m buying a bonus with my BTC

Warlock.

What did you do here?
You lowered the value only for the counting moment, and then it returned to my prediction of over $76k

Easy boy, this hasn't been redistributed yet.


You ain't got nothing but lives.

Nothing is random. I'm from the future and have won this measly game of yours 20 times already. The only times I lose is when I decide to.
Thanks to xLays and LoyceV - but as I said - we've all been down this road before.


I call and raise, and I offer all my current earthly possessions (should be ~50BTC or so) + all potential future profits for the hunter card.
Leahized - your destiny is to accept the offer.

Round 15 is now over, here are the results :

Closing price on 20/04/2026 : 75 875$

Name	Prediction	Difference
LoyceV	75 898,57	23,57
examplens	76 016,00	141,00
ESG	75 678,34	196,66
Leahized	75 421,00	454,00
Hypnotizer	75 398,56	476,44
Pmalek	75 214,00	661,00
xLays	75 067,00	808,00
cryptofrka	100 000,00	24 125,00

                  

LoyceV, you think you are being smart, but well... ok you are the smartest one in this round. Here's 50BTC. Make good use of it.

Cryptofrka, are you the Chosen One ? Because when you do something stupid, you dodge bullets like Neo ? This time, it’s a random chance caused by LoyceV that save your butt. You avoid elimination.
This round needed a victim, and it’s you xLays, who’s paying the price. You are finally free, you are now eliminated. But before you leave, you must use your Last Will card. Give me two names from among the remaining players to whom you will give 34BTC.

Now let’s talk about round 16, the last of the three bloody rounds.
The previous rules apply, and ESG suggested an idea to me. And this is the perfect time to implement it.
As with one other round, you can only make one prediction via LoyceV’s PM publisher.
But in addition, the last three people to submit their predictions will receive a malus (0.25%, 0.50%, and 0.75%).
Don’t blame me, blame ESG for this round. We will see if your math skills are useful.

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Round 16 : The return of the Bloody round
What will be the price of Bitcoin at April 26, 2026, 12:00:00 AM (BTC closing price on 20/04/2026) ?
Submit your predictions before April 23, 2026, 06:00:00 PM.
 
Cash shop: OPEN
 
Special rules :
The two players with the worst predictions will lose a life.
LoyceV has to protect someone.

As with round 10, submit your prediction to LoyceV’s PM publisher. Click here for instructions.
If you are not sure about the delay, set it to “delay=4”

Cookdata, you do not understand this at all. What other site are you using to check fee? I think you do not know about this. Many people in this forum are only using mempool.space. It is time for us to educate people not to be overpaying. I know this thing pretty well than you think. The fee stayed at 0.2 sat/vbyte. I think people like LoyceV and hosemary should check what I am saying.

I think this isn't exactly what vapourminer was meaning to say and LoyceV  has a nice idea for how they could possibly keep it kinda hidden. In all it's a lot like vapourminer is looking for something similar to silent payments but in this case for merit which makes some sense considering his online time too.

But even if we eventually get a script like that what actually are the chances that the admins will implement it? There's still a long waiting list of features like these on the forum.

There are different reasons for using it, for me, it serves as a kind of bridge. For example, in order to use Zenland (escrow platform) I have to connect a wallet, and I use Trezor for that. The simplest way for me is to connect Trezor (address generated only for this purpose) to Metamask and then connect it to the Zenland platform. This makes it easier for me, because I don't have to keep any keys from MM, and the funds are quite safe.

Metamask can work just like electrum. You can connect a hardware wallet there and use basically any coin you want.

They recently added bitcoin support, supporting even NFT in bitcoin blockchain.

I am not sure if it is the "most secure", but for altcoins it is the best option I know.

Vlad is here since 2011 while you are here since 2017.Looks like you also are a noob around here.

No, only Firefox. Tbh I haven't used it in years as I rarely deal with alts, but for whatever reason I didn't disable it.

It might be a good time to actually remove it

Like Nathrixxx that was a plagiarist, was banned permanently before Cyrus gave the user a second chance. Ranking up to Sr. member while post quality is still shitposting level and he will continue with that while getting merit is not his problem.

Why would you or any member want to use a standard for tags that was created by any member when the rules are already clear?

If you browse the thread you might see the reply. It is a pity that your efforts engaging with both parties did not lead to a mutually acceptable resolution. This thread has descended in to a complete farce. I will follow you out of here and will unwatch the thread as contributing anything seems to be nothing more than a waste of time.

wow, thanks Nudildah.  I started using edit to avoid consecutive posts, i tried explaining myself but it was such an obviously coordinated attack on me i finally gave up. 

I didn't wanna start trouble i just wanted to be able to post on my old threads if that was ok.  If not then a no would have been fine but instead i got bombarded by a bunch of noobs with 20,000 merit points.

thanks for the voucher.  I can't believe the other guys i've know got over a decade didn't step up. 

receipts. 

I'm here to vouch for Vlad2Vlad, and to say this is indeed the real Vlad2Vlad.

Most of you kids don't know any better and that's fine. But Vlad was an early altcoin supporter - IXC was the 3rd altcoin ever - and he is also known as creator of the world's first "Shit Coin", in 2013. That matters to me, because if he didn't, I would have been #1.

Anyway.

For the longest time I never really understood him, and I still don't, but with so many Fake OGs out there, the forum could use a real OG back, and that is Vlad.


LOL. Vlad's gang:




Actually I care. IXC is the 3rd altcoin ever. Its okay for people to care about it from a historical perspective.


Wow. What a complete asshole of a thing to say.

Basically what LoyceV wrote. People can check your merit score if they are particularly alert and then go to the Merits page to see the post and sender.

And then that particular person watching basically knows the merit transaction but other, less casual surfers won't.

But all of this is moot anyway when the transaction will be fully visible after 3 days.