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1. Post 66083419 (unedited backup) (by hosemary) (scraped on Sun Nov 23 01:21:07 CET 2025) in Found something..:

LoyceV asked about inactive users wearing avatars related to mixers when theymos announced the mixers ban.
And here is theymos' response.

Quote from: theymos on December 01, 2023, 02:01:03 PM
Quote from: LoyceV
How about old avatars? Many inactive and even banned users still have an avatar from a Bitcoin mixer.

It's not a priority, but I might blank them at some point.


The same answer probably applies to inactive users wearing signatures related to mixers.



2. Post 66082731 (unedited backup) (by DYING_S0UL) (scraped on Sat Nov 22 22:06:26 CET 2025) in LoyceV's reputation thread:

Quote from: NotATether on Today at 04:35:04 PM
The keyboard is only 11 months old, but I spilled something on it. I like how it types though, and a new keyboard can take a while to get used to.

If you're fine without typing sounds, why don't you get a keyboard with just haptic feedback? I have this keyboard and mouse, and I'm quite happy with them.

And I have been using this half dead A4TECH OP-730D mouse that comes with laptop as gift, cost less then $5. Though I have build a very high config custom PC, I'm/was too lazy or should I say sentiment to let go this old friend. Hence I'm still using it for years now and it never failed me.  Lips sealed



3. Post 66082357 (unedited backup) (by PrivacyG) (scraped on Sat Nov 22 20:44:02 CET 2025) in Warning! 16 Blockchains can freeze your coins!:

Quote from: nakamura12 on November 21, 2025, 11:32:17 PM
I don't fully remember what blockchain it is but it was frozen and people having problems making a transaction but it won't proceed as it was frozen, I think it was BNB if I am not mistaken so I rather exchange it sooner I finished what I am doing with the crypto I used.
You are probably remembering the Binance rollback from years ago.  Any Blockchain a centralized entity has authority over is useless and like LoyceV said before, it is nothing more than a data base I or you can have too.  Convince enough people that it is worth any thing and there you have a competitor for all these 16 other Blockchains.



4. Post 66082311 (unedited backup) (by Kliss2) (scraped on Sat Nov 22 20:34:31 CET 2025) in Kliss: Ban appeal :

Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on November 21, 2025, 11:51:13 PM
Despite the warnings regarding plagiarism and being an AI shitposter, you continued to do the same, and eventually that led to your ban.

1. Why didn't you heed the warnings at the very fast time and decided to change your posting behavior if indeed you had genuine intentions here?
2. Why now? Why didn't you appeal your ban back then?
1, I didn't set my notifier and I wasn't checking my messages too that is why I didn't notice the warning until I was ban.

2, I got tired of the whole thing and don't even know where to start from, so recently I make research before I know that I can appeal for my banned account, that's why I had to appeal now.

Quote from: Xal0lex on November 21, 2025, 11:52:12 PM
You were banned not for using AI, but for plagiarism. You stole text from other forum users and passed it off as your own. So you're lying, which doesn't earn you any points.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg64371831#msg64371831
Apologies if I was wrong, this is to tell you all that I'm not doing anything intentionally. I'm still in my learning era. If I'm to be given a second chance I will make things right.

Quote from: hosemary on Today at 01:02:09 AM
You were banned not for using AI, but for plagiarism. You stole text from other forum users and passed it off as your own. So you're lying, which doesn't earn you any points.
He isn't really lying. He's just not disclosing all his rule violations.
He did both. He plagiarised and also used AI for posting. Click here to see the report posted by Ultegra134.
Thank you for helping me know all my mistakes.

Quote from: Xal0lex on Today at 01:12:40 AM
You were banned not for using AI, but for plagiarism. You stole text from other forum users and passed it off as your own. So you're lying, which doesn't earn you any points.
He isn't really lying.

I am talking specifically about the reason for the ban. He claims that his account was banned for using AI in his posts, but I highly doubt that he was banned for that reason. To be honest, I have yet to meet a user who was banned specifically for using AI in their posts.
The both of you are right. I got ban for plagiarised. But at same time I was still using AI to post.

Quote from: acroman08 on Today at 01:36:05 PM
I'm surprised you only tried to appeal you ban today despite being banned a year ago after a plagiarism report was posted against you.

Anyway, so, based on what Xal0lex shared, you aren't just plagiarising other people's posts but also using AI to make your posts?
Yes I was using both AI to post and same time plagiarizing.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 02:54:05 PM
Maybe his alt-accounts got banned reacently

Just kliss which is banned and kliss2 which I'm using to make this reply.



5. Post 66081814 (unedited backup) (by apogio) (scraped on Sat Nov 22 18:42:20 CET 2025) in LoyceV's Avatar for Rent [first 🦊YEAR🦊 (84 weeks) rented out]:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 05:12:32 PM
I recommend some ouzo while reading Smiley Or without reading. I like it anyway Smiley

That's what unites us Grin

Quote from: Satofan44 on Today at 05:17:21 PM
Foxes drink Ouzo or just LauraV does?

May I ask who is LauraV? By the way, only the best foxes do drink ouzo.



6. Post 66081698 (unedited backup) (by Satofan44) (scraped on Sat Nov 22 18:17:25 CET 2025) in LoyceV's Avatar for Rent [first 🦊YEAR🦊 (84 weeks) rented out]:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 05:12:32 PM
I am merit cycling at my best.
Where do I need to start reading to understand what this is about?
Page 1 Smiley
I meant the original cycling accusation as a starting point, but sure thanks.  Tongue I see the start of the campaign as "history" but that is insufficient/

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 05:12:32 PM
I recommend some ouzo while reading Smiley Or without reading. I like it anyway Smiley
Foxes drink Ouzo or just LauraV does?



7. Post 66081463 (unedited backup) (by NotATether) (scraped on Sat Nov 22 17:35:07 CET 2025) in LoyceV's reputation thread:

Quote from: LoyceV on November 21, 2025, 01:49:26 PM
The keyboard is only 11 months old, but I spilled something on it. I like how it types though, and a new keyboard can take a while to get used to.

If you're fine without typing sounds, why don't you get a keyboard with just haptic feedback? I have this keyboard and mouse, and I'm quite happy with them.



8. Post 66081240 (unedited backup) (by DireWolfM14) (scraped on Sat Nov 22 16:42:50 CET 2025) in LoyceV's reputation thread:

Quote from: LoyceV on November 21, 2025, 01:49:26 PM
The keyboard is only 11 months old, but I spilled something on it.

TMI!  Shocked

You can douche it out with isopropyl (90% solution) and let it dry for a few minutes.  If you can pop the key off, and douche the soft board and the bottom the key, even better.

Quote from: rat03gopoh on November 21, 2025, 04:11:52 PM
Use 6 or 8 instead

Quote from: Dad
Why is 6 afraid of 7?
Because 789



9. Post 66078840 (unedited backup) (by Natalim) (scraped on Sat Nov 22 00:07:31 CET 2025) in Pilipinas Alt Account Farm:

Quote from: blockman on Today at 10:42:19 PM
Given na anonymous tayo, it shouldn’t automatically affect the reputation of the whole local board.
Depende pa rin talaga sa kung sino ang tumitingin. Ika nga, ang kasalanan ng ama ay hindi kasalanan ng anak. Hindi din naman maiiwasan na titingin sa buong local dahil sa nagawa ng ilan pero may mga open minded naman na hindi nilalahat kapag may nagkamali na galing sa local natin.

Mukhang hindi talaga advisable ang meet-up kabayan, kasi baka sa huli ma-ipit pa tayo sa scam kahit wala naman tayong ginawa. Pag nagkataon pa na sa atin tumuro ang ebidensya, pwedeng ma-expose yung totoong identity natin at baka mapahamak pa tayo.

Kung naalala niyo pa yung issue noong 2021, diba gumawa si Yahoo ng scam accusation sa charity program dito. Lumabas na hindi masyadong transparent yung paggastos, kaya pati mga kababayan natin na sina cabalism13, crwth, at bl4nkcode nadamay. Nagpaliwanag naman sila, pero yung naging conclusion talaga is kulang sa transparency, kaya possible na nascam yung pera. Resulta, nawala yung dalawa, si crwth na lang ang nandito.

So imagine kung may meet-up tapos may nag-leak ng totoong identity ni crwth. Hindi mo masasabi kung may masamang tao na mag-iisip gumawa ng kung ano man, either uutusan or siya mismo ang gagalaw. Delikado yun para sa kababayan natin. Kaya medyo alanganin talaga ako sa meet-up, kasi may mga possible scenarios na ganyan na ayaw nating mangyari.


Bitcointalk Charity and its funds Bitcointalk Charity and its funds
Quote from: LoyceV on December 11, 2021, 09:17:55 PM
I never followed the details of that thread, but I saw it once in a while. My impression was it's a small-scale thing, like donating for instance 10 kg of rice and other cheap food that lasts a long time. I never expected such an initiative to receive donations as large as a full Bitcoin ($16k) in a single transaction (twice).

Note that the total amount received (9.59BTC) as shown by Blockchair is incorrect, that includes change send back to the address itself. I manually added up the donations, and got to 2.12264434BTC.



10. Post 66078177 (unedited backup) (by EdenTunnel) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 21:34:44 CET 2025) in Making money on this forum.:

Hey all.

     I wanted to talk about something that interests me for my first post, and that are the many ways one can make money here. I feel like nowadays, many people around the world are finding themselves sitting at home and using a search engine with a query similar to "make money online", "how to earn income online", or some variation of that. A quick search on my own yielded results that took me to platforms that I can fill surveys out for pennies, watch ads for pennies, things like that. (ugh  Roll Eyes)

The internet also suggests that you can:

-become an influencer
-build websites
-freelance work
-dropshipping

     You get the idea. The possibilities are limitless, but people want consistent, risk free, rewarding-for-their-time income. The thing that blows me away is that this very forum, bitcointalk.org, is such a good source to make money if you know what you are doing. It's not like any of it is gate-kept to my understanding, you just need to not lose the trust of the community in one way or another by scamming. From what I have seen by lurking here for a while, the community here is incredibly open to teaching people that are willing to learn the proper etiquette here to conduct business, and reap some serious rewards over time.

___________________________

     I'd like to discuss my take on all the different ways you can make money here, mostly because it is fascinating to me and I feel it is a fun meta-subject to talk about. I also feel like I can get some pretty good fun facts and tidbits of information from more experienced users. If anything I say can be added upon, please do! If anything I say is in some way inaccurate or wrong, feel free to correct me.

You can make money on this forum by:

Managing or participating in signature campaigns:

This is definitely the most popular. You can operate signature campaigns for popular services or participate in them. Most people here from what I see stick to casinos like Stake.com or BC.game or exchanges like eXch (rip) or BestChange. There are a few niche ones such as the Foxpop merit cycle club and things like that, but something like that might be rather difficult to get into. There used to be signature campaigns for cryptocurrency mixers such as Chipmixer but they are no longer allowed on this forum. Signature campaign rewards are based on your current rank, and I've seen legendary members earn around $70-$100 USD a week paid in bitcoin! Not too sure how much signature campaign managers/operators earn.

Referral link marketing:

Most people put some sort of referral link alongside their signature campaign banner if they can or if it's allowed. There's other spaces for advertising text-based things such as links or websites that you can place under your profile picture avatar or in your profile information in a section like "website" or something like that. Some reputable users here even rent the space in their signature/avatar, like LoyceV for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5121375.0 He has rented out his space for a hefty amount of time (300+ weeks!), but not too sure how competitive this market is here. It appears Foxpup has made the most consistent payments to LoyceV's avatar space service. LoyceV always comments on her flawless timing. Kinda cute/funny, lol.

Providing escrow services:

Escrow services usually operate by charging a fixed percentage based on how much money is being held. For example, some people charge 1%. Escrow seems to be very important here, but opportunities to become an escrow are very limited due to how trust-based this service can be. Minerjones and MoparMiningLLC seem to be the most active/trusted escrows here from what I understand. The sky is the limit when it comes to potential earnings, because it's all based on how much they are being asked to hold while a deal goes down in one way or another. Kinda cool.


Selling physical goods or collectibles:

Pretty straightforward. There is a place here to sell physical things. Most people don't buy random junk, and the serious deals go down in the collectibles section, for things such as Casascius coins and other bitcoin/crypto themed collectibles.

Selling digital goods:

Also straightforward. You can sell digital goods like a Steam video game key for example.

Offering loans:

This one is tricky, because there are many many trusted options here that offer loans with no interest, or very little interest. It seems to be a service that is provided with profits not particularly in mind, but that isn't always the case. Collateral in the form of a different currency is usually accepted, and asking for a non-collateral loan will get you ignored or red-tagged pretty easily.

Selling a website or forum tool:

Not sure if this has been done a lot, but I'm sure it has happened before.

Holding coins for the forum:

I know this place used to have forum treasurers holding community donated funds, but I don't know if that is the case anymore.

Completing security bounties:

See this page: https://bitcointalk.org/sbounties.php They have paid $25,000 USD in bounties so far!

Crypto exchange services:

Some users here opt to be their own exchange. For example, NotATether runs a Tron ($TRX) exchange: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5536031.0 It seems temporarily closed but he did charge small fees for his service so there's another source of potential income for members here.

There are also these but I'm not too familiar about 'em:

-Operate or participate in forum-based mining pools
-Managing auctions


I think all of that is kinda neat, and insanely impressive that you can accomplish one or multiple of these at a time given you build good trust with the community and be consistent with the quality you deliver. Did I miss any? What other ways have people here tried to make money? Any fun historical info about possible income streams here?




11. Post 66077980 (unedited backup) (by BTCETFInvestor) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 20:43:19 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 07:30:30 PM
If this Owen Gunden thing is real
Who?
Google tells me it's someone who sold 11k BTC since October, and finished the last part of his sale today. That raises 2 questions: 1. why doesn't an early Bitcoin investor care about his privacy, and 2. why is this relevant now, when a 80k BTC sale a while back only caused a small dip in price?
It is not relevant in my opinion. People are just trying to find a narrative that explains the market, and when they are desperate anything will do. Just a while back on X it was because quantum computers will break Bitcoin in a few years or some other nonsense that was being spread.  Cheesy

After that BTC30k bearwhale i came to conclusion that technical genius is inversely related to financial knowledge.

That "slaying" took place at $300 per BTC, and the BTC price largely stayed below $300 for the next year after the purported "slaying."   The BTC price for most of 2015 was in the mid-$200s and even spending a decent amount of time time the lower $200s.. so there would have had been plenty of time for anyone selling for around $300 in October 2014 to buy back in, even though who knows if such buying back in had actually taken place for folks who were selling their cornz around $300 in late 2014.

Reminder: We are making fun of mindrust, because he claimed to be cool as ice for the whole bear market, claiming he would hold his corn with diamond hands and not ever thinking about selling.
The he sold overnight, at the bottom of the final bear capitulation candle, shortly before the accumulation phase prior to the next bull market started (was it at $4k, IIRC? ...or maybe $9k-ish?).
Mindrust sold around 4k. I'll never forget that day.
Me too, i only forgot the bottom price  Smiley
EDIT: At least, he became some kind of a legend, too.
and his 10 coins are now 840,000 not 1,260,000

so his loss is reduced to 800,000 not 1,220,000
He will certainly appreciate that
its kinda funny but i am sometimes more curious as to how much someone has lost (on paper) than their current net worth.

In some sense, you seem to be referring to an aspect of opportunity costs, since sometimes the "what ifs" and the "could of" "should of" become difficult to quantify - so then with bitcoin over the years we have not ONLY accumulated and compounded value, there have also been a lot of ups and downs along the way that tempted us to sell too much too soon and/or to fail refuse to sufficiently prepare our holdings for UP that may or may not end up coming.

In the case of bitcoin, the UP did end up coming, and those who ongoingly took action to accumulate bitcoin and/or at least not to sell too much too soon, ended up profiting quite stupendously  - even though at the same time, arguably there are some of us who might have had chosen to take decently large profits at various points along the way and perhaps even did not accumulate nearly as many BTC as we could have had accumulated, yet even with some whimpiness and/or some mistakes in our bitcoin accumulation, we still ended up doing quite well with our bitcoin, seemingly largely because we were erroring on the side of accumulating bitcoin and/or holding most of our coin rather than taking large profits.

So for example, even if we might have had chosen to take 10% or 20% of our bitcoin off the table after the price had gone up 10x, it surely may well have had seemed like a lot of money to be taking off of the table, yet at the same time, we largely ended up preserving the overwhelming majority of our holdings, and perhaps we were able to engage in such "shaving off" of profits at a few stages in our bitcoin investment journey, and we still ended up doing fine, even if we could have had more BTC, our shaving off of "profits" was mostly reasonable and tempered in terms of our deciding to hang onto a large majority of our holdings.

Of course, on a personal level, I likely have not shaved off as much profits along the way as other guys, even though I do frequently talk about some of my inclinations to sharve off more profits from time to time... and there are also some guys here who are not so excited about the idea of selling any of our bitcoin holdings, but then it seems that if we want to enter into lending relationships, then we might be putting our bitcoin at risk in those kinds of arrangements, too, even though I understand the advantages of not having to pay taxes on the various sales of the cornz.

[edited out]
Poor fellow! Have you been taking wordy lessons from JJG?

You are quite the smartie pants in your grappling with the topic, since you really told cAPSLOCK.   Didn't you?

In essence, you (BTCETFInvestor) have shown yourself to be a bit of a purposeful idiot in terms of not really understanding bitcoin very well (and promoting views in that direction to show your lack of understanding and/or appreciation of the value of the actual product rather than the derivative product).

You seem to believe (which I doubt that even you believe such nonsense) that investing in the derivative product brings value to the space in any kind of meaningful way (beyond allowing various third parties and likely status quo rich to attempt to manipulate the underlying), even though surely there are various ways that folks (institutions and governments too) are enticed into buying the derivative product rather than buying the thing that actually has value and is designed in such a way that you (they) don't need a third-party custodian in order to be able to hold it - even though ongoingly, quite a few folks are lured into such inferior product that might partially be an attack on bitcoin, to the extent that those various third-party custodians might be given undue weight in terms of their manipulation of the price with bitcoin that they don't have and/or might they at some point not get caught up on the wrong side of their manipulation attempts?

Haha - You are wordy man full of shit and totally meaningless innuendo...



12. Post 66077972 (unedited backup) (by philipma1957) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 20:39:38 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: BitHodlers on Today at 07:34:03 PM
If this Owen Gunden thing is real
Who?
Google tells me it's someone who sold 11k BTC since October, and finished the last part of his sale today. That raises 2 questions: 1. why doesn't an early Bitcoin investor care about his privacy, and 2. why is this relevant now, when a 80k BTC sale a while back only caused a small dip in price?
It is not relevant in my opinion. People are just trying to find a narrative that explains the market, and when they are desperate anything will do. Just a while back on X it was because quantum computers will break Bitcoin in a few years or some other nonsense that was being spread.  Cheesy

@BitHodlers - Did you read the info in the link I provided about Owen Gunden's selling activity? It is indeed relevant...  

He sold 11,000 BTC since October 21, 2025, worth about $1.3 billion. His final transfer of 2,499 BTC (~$228 million) to Kraken marked the complete exit.
No it is not. $1.3 billion is nothing for the size of an asset like Bitcoin. There is plenty of liquidity to absorb that. In any case, the fewer people there are with such holdings the better.

yeah the handle over the few days was way more.

100 billion or more.



13. Post 66077954 (unedited backup) (by BitHodlers) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 20:34:07 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: BTCETFInvestor on Today at 05:16:04 PM
If this Owen Gunden thing is real
Who?
Google tells me it's someone who sold 11k BTC since October, and finished the last part of his sale today. That raises 2 questions: 1. why doesn't an early Bitcoin investor care about his privacy, and 2. why is this relevant now, when a 80k BTC sale a while back only caused a small dip in price?
It is not relevant in my opinion. People are just trying to find a narrative that explains the market, and when they are desperate anything will do. Just a while back on X it was because quantum computers will break Bitcoin in a few years or some other nonsense that was being spread.  Cheesy

@BitHodlers - Did you read the info in the link I provided about Owen Gunden's selling activity? It is indeed relevant...  

He sold 11,000 BTC since October 21, 2025, worth about $1.3 billion. His final transfer of 2,499 BTC (~$228 million) to Kraken marked the complete exit.
No it is not. $1.3 billion is nothing for the size of an asset like Bitcoin. There is plenty of liquidity to absorb that.



14. Post 66077946 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 20:30:37 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: DaRude on Today at 05:25:50 PM
If this Owen Gunden thing is real
Who?
Google tells me it's someone who sold 11k BTC since October, and finished the last part of his sale today. That raises 2 questions: 1. why doesn't an early Bitcoin investor care about his privacy, and 2. why is this relevant now, when a 80k BTC sale a while back only caused a small dip in price?
It is not relevant in my opinion. People are just trying to find a narrative that explains the market, and when they are desperate anything will do. Just a while back on X it was because quantum computers will break Bitcoin in a few years or some other nonsense that was being spread.  Cheesy

After that BTC30k bearwhale i came to conclusion that technical genius is inversely related to financial knowledge.

That "slaying" took place at $300 per BTC, and the BTC price largely stayed below $300 for the next year after the purported "slaying."   The BTC price for most of 2015 was in the mid-$200s and even spending a decent amount of time time the lower $200s.. so there would have had been plenty of time for anyone selling for around $300 in October 2014 to buy back in, even though who knows if such buying back in had actually taken place for folks who were selling their cornz around $300 in late 2014.

Quote from: vapourminer on Today at 06:47:46 PM
Reminder: We are making fun of mindrust, because he claimed to be cool as ice for the whole bear market, claiming he would hold his corn with diamond hands and not ever thinking about selling.
The he sold overnight, at the bottom of the final bear capitulation candle, shortly before the accumulation phase prior to the next bull market started (was it at $4k, IIRC? ...or maybe $9k-ish?).
Mindrust sold around 4k. I'll never forget that day.
Me too, i only forgot the bottom price  Smiley
EDIT: At least, he became some kind of a legend, too.
and his 10 coins are now 840,000 not 1,260,000

so his loss is reduced to 800,000 not 1,220,000
He will certainly appreciate that
its kinda funny but i am sometimes more curious as to how much someone has lost (on paper) than their current net worth.

In some sense, you seem to be referring to an aspect of opportunity costs, since sometimes the "what ifs" and the "could of" "should of" become difficult to quantify - so then with bitcoin over the years we have not ONLY accumulated and compounded value, there have also been a lot of ups and downs along the way that tempted us to sell too much too soon and/or to fail refuse to sufficiently prepare our holdings for UP that may or may not end up coming.

In the case of bitcoin, the UP did end up coming, and those who ongoingly took action to accumulate bitcoin and/or at least not to sell too much too soon, ended up profiting quite stupendously  - even though at the same time, arguably there are some of us who might have had chosen to take decently large profits at various points along the way and perhaps even did not accumulate nearly as many BTC as we could have had accumulated, yet even with some whimpiness and/or some mistakes in our bitcoin accumulation, we still ended up doing quite well with our bitcoin, seemingly largely because we were erroring on the side of accumulating bitcoin and/or holding most of our coin rather than taking large profits.

So for example, even if we might have had chosen to take 10% or 20% of our bitcoin off the table after the price had gone up 10x, it surely may well have had seemed like a lot of money to be taking off of the table, yet at the same time, we largely ended up preserving the overwhelming majority of our holdings, and perhaps we were able to engage in such "shaving off" of profits at a few stages in our bitcoin investment journey, and we still ended up doing fine, even if we could have had more BTC, our shaving off of "profits" was mostly reasonable and tempered in terms of our deciding to hang onto a large majority of our holdings.

Of course, on a personal level, I likely have not shaved off as much profits along the way as other guys, even though I do frequently talk about some of my inclinations to sharve off more profits from time to time... and there are also some guys here who are not so excited about the idea of selling any of our bitcoin holdings, but then it seems that if we want to enter into lending relationships, then we might be putting our bitcoin at risk in those kinds of arrangements, too, even though I understand the advantages of not having to pay taxes on the various sales of the cornz.

Quote from: BTCETFInvestor on Today at 07:13:45 PM
[edited out]
Poor fellow! Have you been taking wordy lessons from JJG?

You are quite the smartie pants in your grappling with the topic, since you really told cAPSLOCK.   Didn't you?

In essence, you (BTCETFInvestor) have shown yourself to be a bit of a purposeful idiot in terms of not really understanding bitcoin very well (and promoting views in that direction to show your lack of understanding and/or appreciation of the value of the actual product rather than the derivative product).

You seem to believe (which I doubt that even you believe such nonsense) that investing in the derivative product brings value to the space in any kind of meaningful way (beyond allowing various third parties and likely status quo rich to attempt to manipulate the underlying), even though surely there are various ways that folks (institutions and governments too) are enticed into buying the derivative product rather than buying the thing that actually has value and is designed in such a way that you (they) don't need a third-party custodian in order to be able to hold it - even though ongoingly, quite a few folks are lured into such inferior product that might partially be an attack on bitcoin, to the extent that those various third-party custodians might be given undue weight in terms of their manipulation of the price with bitcoin that they don't have and/or might they at some point not get caught up on the wrong side of their manipulation attempts?



15. Post 66077548 (unedited backup) (by wachtwoord) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 18:37:32 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: BTCETFInvestor on Today at 05:11:23 PM
403 on Tor browser. That's why you shouldn't just use a link dump, but post what it's about.

Maybe you should use a more common browser rather than a Tor Browser...

I think you are on the wrong forum trying to shame someone for dilligence ...



16. Post 66077527 (unedited backup) (by wachtwoord) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 18:31:49 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 04:33:58 PM
If this Owen Gunden thing is real
Who?
Google tells me it's someone who sold 11k BTC since October, and finished the last part of his sale today. That raises 2 questions: 1. why doesn't an early Bitcoin investor care about his privacy, and 2. why is this relevant now, when a 80k BTC sale a while back only caused a small dip in price?

He's even mentioned in a 2013 msm newsarticle ffs  Cheesy



17. Post 66077506 (unedited backup) (by DaRude) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 18:25:56 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: BitHodlers on Today at 04:39:13 PM
If this Owen Gunden thing is real
Who?
Google tells me it's someone who sold 11k BTC since October, and finished the last part of his sale today. That raises 2 questions: 1. why doesn't an early Bitcoin investor care about his privacy, and 2. why is this relevant now, when a 80k BTC sale a while back only caused a small dip in price?
It is not relevant in my opinion. People are just trying to find a narrative that explains the market, and when they are desperate anything will do. Just a while back on X it was because quantum computers will break Bitcoin in a few years or some other nonsense that was being spread.  Cheesy


After that BTC30k bearwhale i came to conclusion that technical genius is inversely related to financial knowledge.



18. Post 66077463 (unedited backup) (by BTCETFInvestor) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 18:16:07 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: BitHodlers on Today at 04:39:13 PM
If this Owen Gunden thing is real
Who?
Google tells me it's someone who sold 11k BTC since October, and finished the last part of his sale today. That raises 2 questions: 1. why doesn't an early Bitcoin investor care about his privacy, and 2. why is this relevant now, when a 80k BTC sale a while back only caused a small dip in price?
It is not relevant in my opinion. People are just trying to find a narrative that explains the market, and when they are desperate anything will do. Just a while back on X it was because quantum computers will break Bitcoin in a few years or some other nonsense that was being spread.  Cheesy

@BitHodlers - Did you read the info in the link I provided about Owen Gunden's selling activity? It is indeed relevant... 



19. Post 66077450 (unedited backup) (by BTCETFInvestor) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 18:11:26 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 04:37:03 PM
403 on Tor browser. That's why you shouldn't just use a link dump, but post what it's about.

Maybe you should use a more common browser rather than a Tor Browser...



20. Post 66077422 (unedited backup) (by Richy_T) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 18:03:14 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 04:37:03 PM
403 on Tor browser. That's why you shouldn't just use a link dump, but post what it's about.

Link dumps make me  Angry



21. Post 66077359 (unedited backup) (by BitHodlers) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 17:39:19 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 04:33:58 PM
If this Owen Gunden thing is real
Who?
Google tells me it's someone who sold 11k BTC since October, and finished the last part of his sale today. That raises 2 questions: 1. why doesn't an early Bitcoin investor care about his privacy, and 2. why is this relevant now, when a 80k BTC sale a while back only caused a small dip in price?
It is not relevant in my opinion. People are just trying to find a narrative that explains the market, and when they are desperate anything will do. Just a while back on X it was because quantum computers will break Bitcoin in a few years or some other nonsense.  Cheesy



22. Post 66077346 (unedited backup) (by BTCETFInvestor) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 17:36:01 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 04:33:58 PM
If this Owen Gunden thing is real
Who?
Google tells me it's someone who sold 11k BTC since October, and finished the last part of his sale today. That raises 2 questions: 1. why doesn't an early Bitcoin investor care about his privacy, and 2. why is this relevant now, when a 80k BTC sale a while back only caused a small dip in price?


https://www.binance.com/en-AE/square/post/32108031319722



23. Post 66077202 (unedited backup) (by OutOfMemory) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 16:56:37 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on Today at 03:39:37 PM
Except that Bitcoin's price is still 20 times higher than when Covid struck.

I was referencing the widespread dumping and % of price fall. Covid was mid cycle ‘ish’ so I always thought that the price would recover quickly and reach new ATHs at worst the year after. There are posts of mine around the mindrust time with me buying multiple full Bitcoin. It was an easy buy.

This is a bit different because it’s the end of the bull market probably and if history repeats, we won’t see an ATH for a couple of years at least.

Yeah, actually i can remember you were buying the bottom (after selling near the preceding top, congrats!).
I didn't have fiat at the time, because i already bought earlier (higher) in the bear market, when my last buys were $10k-$12k (-ish).
At the time i wasn't confident enough to "time the market" to wait, and even if i had waited, i had no idea which ladders to define for buys, i did it all manually (limit buys) back then.



24. Post 66077136 (unedited backup) (by LFC_Bitcoin) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 16:39:44 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 01:32:51 PM
Except that Bitcoin's price is still 20 times higher than when Covid struck.

I was referencing the widespread dumping and % of price fall. Covid was mid cycle ‘ish’ so I always thought that the price would recover quickly and reach new ATHs at worst the year after. There are posts of mine around the mindrust time with me buying multiple full Bitcoin. It was an easy buy.

This is a bit different because it’s the end of the bull market probably and if history repeats, we won’t see an ATH for a couple of years at least.



25. Post 66076995 (unedited backup) (by Richy_T) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 16:04:14 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 08:55:50 AM
It would make sense to have a less deep bear market after a disappointing bull market.

I think so too. But am I just coping?



26. Post 66076900 (unedited backup) (by vapourminer) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 15:44:08 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 08:55:50 AM


Quote
Let's say for example it is the "OG" bitcoiners selling, at this price they won't be selling anymore. Would you? so it either stops dropping soon or something else is definitely afoot in which case my view may change. Even if we hit 75k though that is still only just hitting the April low.
If I didn't sell at $120k, I'm sure as hell not selling now. History taught me to just sit it out again.

i think somac is right. as im one of those who sold supra 120k this run. enough to hang if a bear market decides to come visit.



27. Post 66076647 (unedited backup) (by Shishir99) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 14:42:14 CET 2025) in LoyceV's reputation thread:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 08:57:46 AM
My keyboard is at it again: 44 Merits sent to somac.. Not that it matters much, he's not a shitposter and I can't even empty my source. But it is annoying my keyboard is so unreliable, I'm not used to having to verify what I type.

You are seeking the attention of people like me who are close to their next rank Tongue
I would say I am still far, but DdmrDdmr thinks I am close to the next rank (<20% merits required for the next rank), but I am an average Joe. This kind of Humour will start luring people like me and follow wherever you post Grin, BTW, even if you are not used to verifying what you type, I am sure you verify what you copy and paste Cool



28. Post 66075600 (unedited backup) (by Pmalek) (scraped on Fri Nov 21 09:33:19 CET 2025) in splash.tf - instant exchange BTC / ETH / XMR / DAI:

Quote from: LoyceV on November 20, 2025, 08:15:46 AM
The current low transaction fees don't change the fact that blockspace is very limited. I don't hear stories anymore about fast food chains accepting Bitcoin, or large webshops. A few transactions per second isn't enough for them to scale.
Steak ‘n Shak started accepting Bitcoin about half a year ago across all of their US shops. But as you probably know, they only accept it via the Lightning Network. You can't pay with L1 bitcoin. I remember reading how pleased they were with LN, claiming it has helped to lower their payment processing fees by up to 50%. They have also announced a plan for a Bitcoin Strategic Reserve. 



29. Post 66073493 (unedited backup) (by DaRude) (scraped on Thu Nov 20 19:53:56 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: Greyhats on Today at 02:08:04 PM
I continued my search, and it looks like about US 1% of the population works for minimum wage. But I assume that's mostly in sectors where tipping is mandatory, and that can easily add up to more than the wage itself. I can't say I'm a fan of this system though, it favours corporations instead of individuals.

Forgot about the tipping culture. I hate that about the US, I never know what is acceptable.

20% always with exceptions

Order at counter food/pick up/delivery 15%

I always do 25+% for haircuts

Fixed amounts for certain situations mostly travel related, valet room cleaning butler type duties etc

$5 dirty fiat in the us/1st world countries and 10$ everywhere else.

Trolley dollies 5$ starbs gift cards

15% at the counter and 20% for full service? So you're paying just 5% for someone to come to you, greet you, take your order at your table, bring food to you, come to you to follow up, and clean everything for you without you having to even stand up. wtf is 15% then for, for the girl just to punch in your order at the counter?

If I’m sitting down to eat im probably having more than one course, maybe some alcoholic beverages etc so the 20% of a larger number than an at a counter number is representative of that service when at a table

On the flip The tip at the counter bit, that’s usually split between the teller, the kitchen, the dishwasher etc etc, the amount is less than at a table since I can only carry so much.

If you have a fairer way of doing this I’m all ears!



Waiters get the full tip for providing good service, and all non customer interfacing personnel get a proper wage. You know how it's always been



30. Post 66073122 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Thu Nov 20 18:07:07 CET 2025) in splash.tf - instant exchange BTC / ETH / XMR / DAI:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 08:15:46 AM
For a while now, mempool barely shows any real Bitcoin transaction. I've been checking it for years, and usually about 80-90% is filled with data spam (ordinals, runes, inscriptions or whatever they call the crap to sell to gullible people).
The current low transaction fees don't change the fact that blockspace is very limited. I don't hear stories anymore about fast food chains accepting Bitcoin, or large webshops. A few transactions per second isn't enough for them to scale. Even back in 2017 I was concerned the high fees would limit Bitcoin's growth, and now the number of real on-chain transactions is much lower than it was back then.

I think the issue of most stores not using Bitcoin is not a question of scalability.
I would say there are three main reasons

- Increasingly, I see fewer people interested in spending BTC to make purchases.
I could set up a store to sell various types of products, and accept only BTC. But from the feedback I've received, I would have few customers.

- The time of the transaction. Even with a fee of 1 cent, waiting about 10 minutes, for many businesses would not be feasible.

- Of course, the danger of fees getting absurd at any time is an element that makes traders stay away.



31. Post 66073009 (unedited backup) (by Gachapin) (scraped on Thu Nov 20 17:37:38 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: d_eddie on November 19, 2025, 07:10:57 PM
we keep diving thats a fact for now
A bit late, but we're almost there:
In a few months, we'll feel sad Bitcoin is down to $75k again.

You were off by an entire cycle… That’s the most accurate prediction of yours you could find after going back more than 4 years? Now you’re saying we drop to $75K after badmouthing me for saying the top was in when we were at $117K. Have you no shame? I would be embarrassed.


I continued my search, and it looks like about US 1% of the population works for minimum wage. But I assume that's mostly in sectors where tipping is mandatory, and that can easily add up to more than the wage itself. I can't say I'm a fan of this system though, it favours corporations instead of individuals.


200k party in Tokyo?

Forgot about the tipping culture. I hate that about the US, I never know what is acceptable.

In Japan, waiters and waitresses feel awkward about accepting tips. It's totally not a thing.

I’ve given a few Japanese waitresses the tip and they seemed appreciative. Cheesy

Roppongi? Shibuya?



32. Post 66072749 (unedited backup) (by bitmover) (scraped on Thu Nov 20 16:38:31 CET 2025) in splash.tf - instant exchange BTC / ETH / XMR / DAI:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 08:15:46 AM
The current low transaction fees don't change the fact that blockspace is very limited. I don't hear stories anymore about fast food chains accepting Bitcoin, or large webshops. A few transactions per second isn't enough for them to scale. Even back in 2017 I was concerned the high fees would limit Bitcoin's growth, and now the number of real on-chain transactions is much lower than it was back then.

I think many transactions are happening off chain.

Many people buying and selling ETF, which doesn't involve on chain transactions.
There are also many people sending BTC inside binance (to other binance accounts for example, which is not BTC but it works like it)...

People might even been using more stablecoins to send money, instead of bitcoin. Stablecoins are really a thing now, everywhere. There is a decent degree of privacy and freedom, even with the risks and limitations of a stablecoin, it is still much better than using the banking system (slow expensive and not as private as a stablecoin)



33. Post 66072485 (unedited backup) (by wachtwoord) (scraped on Thu Nov 20 15:37:13 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: DaRude on November 19, 2025, 04:43:58 PM
I continued my search, and it looks like about US 1% of the population works for minimum wage. But I assume that's mostly in sectors where tipping is mandatory, and that can easily add up to more than the wage itself. I can't say I'm a fan of this system though, it favours corporations instead of individuals.

Forgot about the tipping culture. I hate that about the US, I never know what is acceptable.

20% always with exceptions

Order at counter food/pick up/delivery 15%

I always do 25+% for haircuts

Fixed amounts for certain situations mostly travel related, valet room cleaning butler type duties etc

$5 dirty fiat in the us/1st world countries and 10$ everywhere else.

Trolley dollies 5$ starbs gift cards

15% at the counter and 20% for full service? So you're paying just 5% for someone to come to you, greet you, take your order at your table, bring food to you, come to you to follow up, and clean everything for you without you having to even stand up. wtf is 15% then for, for the girl just to punch in your order at the counter?

Makes sense to me as we tip max 5% for that in Europe and zero at the counter. That makes he same delta.



34. Post 66072476 (unedited backup) (by julerz12) (scraped on Thu Nov 20 15:35:37 CET 2025) in Pilipinas Alt Account Farm:

Quote from: Sanitough on Today at 02:05:07 PM
Pero para sa akin lang ha, ang pinaka-solid na basehan ng alt accounts is kung dalawa o higit pang accounts ang gumamit ng parehong address sa application ng campaign.
Malabo na 'yan ngayon. Recently kasi, karamihan sa mga nahuhuling campaign cheaters, kapag nag-aaply sa campaign, walang inilalagay na BTC wallet address para hindi ma-auto archive ng ninjastic at scrapper ni LoyceV, ika-nga wais na sila.
Besides, madali na 'lang naman gumawa ng maraming BTC wallet addresses na walang kung ano mang mga connections kaya mahirap talaga na 'yan 'lang dapat ang pagbabasehan.

Quote from: Sanitough on Today at 02:05:07 PM
At para ma-justify mo yan, kailangan mo pa magpakita ng picture para makita nila yung totoong tao sa likod ng account, which is risky. Plus yung conversation ninyo pa. So sa isang point, parang may mali na talaga pag ganyan ang requirement.

Ikaw, tatanungin kita…
Would you really be willing to reveal your true identity, pati na friends mo behind that account, just to prove na yung address link is not cheating?
Depende na siguro sa tao 'yan if alin ang mas importante sa kanila, 'yung account o 'yung privacy.
For me, I value my account and since I barely have any privacy Cheesy I'd fight to the death for my account.



35. Post 66072375 (unedited backup) (by Greyhats) (scraped on Thu Nov 20 15:08:07 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: DaRude on November 19, 2025, 04:43:58 PM
I continued my search, and it looks like about US 1% of the population works for minimum wage. But I assume that's mostly in sectors where tipping is mandatory, and that can easily add up to more than the wage itself. I can't say I'm a fan of this system though, it favours corporations instead of individuals.

Forgot about the tipping culture. I hate that about the US, I never know what is acceptable.

20% always with exceptions

Order at counter food/pick up/delivery 15%

I always do 25+% for haircuts

Fixed amounts for certain situations mostly travel related, valet room cleaning butler type duties etc

$5 dirty fiat in the us/1st world countries and 10$ everywhere else.

Trolley dollies 5$ starbs gift cards

15% at the counter and 20% for full service? So you're paying just 5% for someone to come to you, greet you, take your order at your table, bring food to you, come to you to follow up, and clean everything for you without you having to even stand up. wtf is 15% then for, for the girl just to punch in your order at the counter?

If I’m sitting down to eat im probably having more than one course, maybe some alcoholic beverages etc so the 20% of a larger number than an at a counter number is representative of that service when at a table

On the flip The tip at the counter bit, that’s usually split between the teller, the kitchen, the dishwasher etc etc, the amount is less than at a table since I can only carry so much.

If you have a fairer way of doing this I’m all ears!




36. Post 66072223 (unedited backup) (by Shishir99) (scraped on Thu Nov 20 14:27:32 CET 2025) in Did the forum stop using cloudflare and instead opt for an alternative?:

Quote from: LoyceV on November 19, 2025, 03:00:32 PM
There's usually a baby boom 9 months after a blackout, so I can take a guess what people will be doing Tongue

You completely ignored the single people and young people who are still under 18. We had an internet blackout in my country last year because of the dictatorial government; we were watching TV channels and playing offline games all day. Fortunately, the dictator had to flee to India due to the protests, and then the internet was restored. I recall that there was a kind of shutdown or lockdown situation, but without internet access. Unfortunately, we do not have the data if there were baby boom after 9 months Tongue



37. Post 66071994 (unedited backup) (by memehunter) (scraped on Thu Nov 20 13:22:43 CET 2025) in Humour or borderline sketchy practice by CHIPS.GG:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 12:16:21 PM

I'd be more concerned about the obviously fake promises: "it's LITERALLY FREE MONEY"

Sometimes because of lack of number of participants some contests might be categorized as such, and the claim might be true. The problematic part is the use of unnecessary (possibly sketchy) emotional hook (which is totally false).



38. Post 66071676 (unedited backup) (by NotATether) (scraped on Thu Nov 20 11:37:14 CET 2025) in Talksearch.io - Advanced Bitcointalk Search Engine:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 07:45:31 AM
You're allowed one page request per second, so waiting 2.64 seconds isn't necessary. Maybe you can use "All" for topics with no more than 26 pages to get up to 500 posts at once, but Cloudflare will probably stop you from doing that.

It appears twice as slow because the actual indexer is also running in parallel. I just ran the deletion script on top of it and it's also running at the same speed.

Cloudflare would work, but I would have to embed a token of some kind.

Quote
I would like to be able to query all this information taking only several days, or at worst a few weeks.
Does it help to prioritize boards? Forget about the altcoin bounty boards, that should take off millions if not tens of millions of posts.
[/quote]

Not really. The deleted posts occur randomly across any board (though I suspect the gambling discussion board has a higher proportion of deleted posts).



39. Post 66070985 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Thu Nov 20 07:27:37 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: Greyhats on November 19, 2025, 03:14:25 PM
I continued my search, and it looks like about US 1% of the population works for minimum wage. But I assume that's mostly in sectors where tipping is mandatory, and that can easily add up to more than the wage itself. I can't say I'm a fan of this system though, it favours corporations instead of individuals.
Forgot about the tipping culture. I hate that about the US, I never know what is acceptable.
20% always with exceptions
Order at counter food/pick up/delivery 15%

I always do 25+% for haircuts
Fixed amounts for certain situations mostly travel related, valet room cleaning butler type duties etc

$5 dirty fiat in the us/1st world countries and 10$ everywhere else.

Trolley dollies 5$ starbs gift cards

You are more generous than me.  I tend to do 15%, and yeah of course, exceptions.. and only where some extra service was rendered.

I also get irritated where tips are imposed (included in the bill), and even various countries have ambiguous taxing and tips in their systems, and in the tourist area they expect tips more and even in non-touriset areas it seems more tips are expected if you are seen as a foreigner...so other places have problems too, that have likely been corrupted by American tipping culture.

I have had cases where I look at the bill and it shows a tax and a tip. and they don't always call it a tax, but if you know the area that you are traveling, then you might come to realize what the bills mean, yet at the same time, the merchants are not honest and then the employee will sometimes say that the employer does not share the tip or will say that the tip is for something else (like the kitchen staff and not the waiting staff).. so it can become confusing... and sometimes it can be confusing what to do.. or to figure some kind of a level that works.. There are problems with paying with a credit card versus paying in cash, and yeah of course, most places prefer cash, but at the same time, it can be problematic to travel with a lot of cash.. and going to get cashed exchanged can be inconvenient too.. which surely bitcoin could come in handy for some of these travel matters... but it is not too common to find places that accept bitcoin.. and  even with the exchanges and the ATMs the fees are sometimes outrageous.. I don't mind 3% to 5%, but the fees are frequently greater than 8%, which I find irritating.. not because I cannot afford it, but just out of the principle of the matter.

Quote from: LoyceV on November 19, 2025, 03:29:54 PM
20% always with exceptions
Order at counter food/pick up/delivery 15%
I always do 25+% for haircuts
Fixed amounts for certain situations mostly travel related, valet room cleaning butler type duties etc
$5 dirty fiat in the us/1st world countries and 10$ everywhere else.
Trolley dollies 5$ starbs gift cards
But why? Why tip for food but not for groceries? Why tip a restaurant but not a nurse? I'm not used to the American "tipping culture", and to me it looks a lot like a trick to have lower advertised prices, while you still pay more. I can't imagine demanding an additional payment every few minutes when I'm at work, but apparently that's completely normal in some sectors.

Some kinds of employment it is against the rules to accept tips... health care and governmental service, for example.. .even though each of those sectors have its own problems and/or issues.

Quote from: DaRude on November 19, 2025, 04:43:58 PM
I continued my search, and it looks like about US 1% of the population works for minimum wage. But I assume that's mostly in sectors where tipping is mandatory, and that can easily add up to more than the wage itself. I can't say I'm a fan of this system though, it favours corporations instead of individuals.
Forgot about the tipping culture. I hate that about the US, I never know what is acceptable.
20% always with exceptions
Order at counter food/pick up/delivery 15%

I always do 25+% for haircuts
Fixed amounts for certain situations mostly travel related, valet room cleaning butler type duties etc

$5 dirty fiat in the us/1st world countries and 10$ everywhere else.
Trolley dollies 5$ starbs gift cards
15% at the counter and 20% for full service? So you're paying just 5% for someone to come to you, greet you, take your order at your table, bring food to you, come to you to follow up, and clean everything for you without you having to even stand up. wtf is 15% then for, for the girl just to punch in your order at the counter?

It seems that tips are meant for extra services not just normal services, so I don't usually put tips in tip jars.. even though sure every once in a while there might be some sense that it might be nice to leave a tip in that jar.

So yeah coming to the table is a bit more of extra services, even though surely maybe it would be more straight-forward if the employer were to just pay for all of that, which is why we consider it a cultural matter that is reinforced by different kinds of laws that relate to tip employees as compared with other kinds of employees.  There are a lot of confusing things in this world, but also can be considered interesting things, too, even if there can be some frustration and even if sometimes there can be confrontations when cultural differences exist, yet it might not be clear how to interact..

I have fucked up plenty of times, and  then I sometimes will try to make adjustments into the future, yet even my adjustments do not stop me from getting into trouble in some other kind of way... like asking to clarify.. or maybe confronting about this, that or anther thing.. and sometimes language barriers too and difficulties to admit if you might or might not understand.

Quote from: VB1001 on November 19, 2025, 05:17:45 PM
(Don't pay too much attention to me; you know I've been out of the market for a while.)

Yep.. I have some memories when you were selling way too much too soon (likely in the late 201 time frame and/or maybe even into 2019 (and maybe even around the mindrust times.. which would have been around March 2020)...

In retrospect, those were times that any of us should have had been buying or at least just holding through it all, to the extent that we would have had been able to... so there sometimes can be difficult times that any of us might enter into that contribute to either our selling of BTC too soon or not being able to continue to stack when we should be stacking..

Quote from: BTCETFInvestor on November 19, 2025, 06:38:44 PM
As long as demand for Bitcoin remains low the price will struggle. OGs sold a lot that was bought low for a profit. We need the buying demand from institutional, public and private companies, and governments to increase. Sour macroeconomics is playing a big part of the decay...       

Why are you proclaiming that "we need" these things?

You sound like a shitcoiner.

Remember the good ole days (and not even that long ago), shitcoiners frequently like to say that bitcoin needs shitcoins other wise bitcoin is nothing.

Bitcoin is the dog not the tail.  You seem to be mixing up the dog and the tail, especially since the tail does not wag the dog, at least not the last time that I checked.

Quote from: OgNasty on November 19, 2025, 06:45:24 PM
I continued my search, and it looks like about US 1% of the population works for minimum wage. But I assume that's mostly in sectors where tipping is mandatory, and that can easily add up to more than the wage itself. I can't say I'm a fan of this system though, it favours corporations instead of individuals.
Forgot about the tipping culture. I hate that about the US, I never know what is acceptable.
In Japan, waiters and waitresses feel awkward about accepting tips. It's totally not a thing.
I’ve given a few Japanese waitresses the tip and they seemed appreciative. Cheesy

Were you in Japan at the time?

Quote from: BTCETFInvestor on November 19, 2025, 08:15:32 PM
There are a LOT of well-known people in the world of finance that have promoted Bitcoin as an extremely promising investment that will now need to defend their words after a 30% drop in the price of BTC in just 5 weeks.   

That is not true.

Bitcoin continues to be a strong and promising investing, even if there has been a short term price drop of 30%..

Zoom out a wee bit to help ur lil selfie to assess dee cornz a wee bit better, if you don't know dee cornz very well.

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



40. Post 66070780 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Thu Nov 20 05:51:25 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 19, 2025, 11:16:08 AM
Well let's say the avg wage in USA is 10$/hour
It takes around 1250 working days to make enough at this exchange rate.

So..it's not really an impossible thing to get 1 BTC in 2030.
Enjoy working. Fuck politics and listen to Motorhead, then you ll be alright.
I think the average wage in the US is a lot higher than $10 per hour. That’s like slavery or a minor doing a paper round or something. I’m not from the US but it has to be $20 an hour average surely?

One Bitcoin is pretty tough for a newbie these days. Most young people can’t even get on the property ladder. It might be possible by 2030 but you would imagine for the average guy, we will have to go a lot lower, I’m talking $40,000 to $50,000 for it to be achievable. Not many people can save $90,000 in 4 years.

Maybe the threshold for a newbie to be proud of should be lowered to 0.21 Bitcoin?
As there will only ever be 21 million Bitcoin, owning 0.21 Bitcoin could be fairly impressive in the long term future.

Or course, we have to account for our income and for our expenses to attempt to verify if we are being realistic, yet we might also project that our income and expenses are likely to change with the passage of years.

There is nothing wrong with having aspirational goals, yet we should still attempt to be realistic in terms of envisioning a path to get there, and it is easier to project specifics of our goals on shorter timelines, and the details might change as we project further into the future.

Starting with investing $100 per week into bitcoin and perhaps increasing our amounts, then yeah, we might get up to $500 per week in 10 years, and from time to time we might have abilities to increase our weekly invested amount and even lump sum investing opportunities from time to time, whether extra buys on dips or merely extra buys because we got a $2,500 Christmas bonus (if such workplace practices might still exist from place to place).

Even a guy starting out now and investing $100 per week, he might speculate that he could get to $5,200 invested in 1 year, yet he might not exactly know how many bitcoins that might get him.. even though, yeah, 0.21 BTC seems much more reasonable and realistic as a starting goal as compared to having a goal of 1 BTC.. Why would any of us want to (or engage in such processes of placing ourselves with aspirational goals that may well be quite difficult to achieve.. even though many of us know that with money (or wealth) growing goals, there tend to be a quite a few ways to frame them and even incrementalize them in order to attempt to make them at least somewhat realistic in being able to achieve them or to achieve the various easier progress steps along the way.

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 19, 2025, 12:22:01 PM
I think the average wage in the US is a lot higher than $10 per hour.
Wiki shows the minimum wage ranges from $7.25 to $17.50, depending on the state.
$7.25 is like £5 an hour. I was earning more than that in my first job 20 years ago. Ridiculous that people are being paid that in a First World Country in 2025.
Safe to say nobody on $7.25 will ever save to buy 1 Bitcoin.

For sure something like $7.25 an hour should inspire the person to figure out how to increase his skills.. since even if he might be making that amount of money, there is only so much that can be cut in terms of expenses, even though many of us had probably engaged in various kinds of savings techniques, even when we were in the process of investing into bitcoin.

Investing in bitcoin or anything else takes a bit of discipline, and perhaps suffering.. so maybe that is part of the reason that you, LFC, were throwing such a temper tantrum when the BTC kept on refusing to go up... even though we still have to be careful to put too much expectations within any course of events when we already have been quite rewarded in bitcoin.

Even though I had some fuck ups, so my own BTC portfolio is not 400x in profits, even if there were some coins that I bought in the $250 price range which would cause those coins specifically to be in the ballpark of 400x profits.

So then some guys ask me how much I suffer when the BTC price goes down, and even suggest that I need to take more profits..

so then I suggest back that what the fuck difference does it make if I take some profits in the 500x range, the 400x range or the 300x range, even though surely it would be better to take some profits at the higher level, yet part of the reason that I have so much luxury to take profits in ranges beween 300x and 500x on some of my coins, it is because I largely refused to take profits between 2015 and now on some of the coins, and yeah, if I happen to have had bought 0.1 BTC for $25 in 2015, then yeah, we know that 0.1 BTC is now selling for around $9,200.. so it is not really a BIG deal to shave off some here and there, even though it feels better to engage in that shavings when the price is going up rather than going down... yet sometimes the extra expense will come at an inconvenient time, and maybe it does not really matter too much, as long as I don't end up selling large portions of my stash without any reason and/or consideration of my own future.

Quote from: BTCETFInvestor on November 19, 2025, 02:05:14 PM
The [halving] effect will get weaker and weaker with time, but I think it's still significant enough to affect price. Maybe in a couple of decades it will become too weak to matter. Also, note that, such long-term effects tend to be notoriously difficult to predict. So, again, anything can happen, but personally, I do expect to see 4-year cycles for some good amount of time, albeit getting weaker and weaker after every halving.

I agree with this. The fact remains that halving every 4 years can't just be done away with, because it is a material event - but its importance will increasingly vanish with each halving event, which I think is already happening now. The sooner it fades away entirely, the better. Bitcoin needs to stand on its own merit like gold. 


Do you know how to make some kind of reasonable statement about bitcoin without having to throw in some non-sense zinger?

Sure bitcoin is modeled on gold and even a better gold, but the way that you phrase this matter, you seem to be trying to suggest (subliminal message) that gold is somehow better than bitcoin, currently, which if you know jack shit about bitcoin rather than shitty bitcoin derivative products, then maybe your thinking might become a wee bit less foggy.  You think your getting smarter and less weasily about these kinds of discussions is even possible?



41. Post 66069396 (unedited backup) (by d_eddie) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 20:11:02 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: OgNasty on Today at 06:45:24 PM
we keep diving thats a fact for now
A bit late, but we're almost there:
In a few months, we'll feel sad Bitcoin is down to $75k again.

You were off by an entire cycle… That’s the most accurate prediction of yours you could find after going back more than 4 years? Now you’re saying we drop to $75K after badmouthing me for saying the top was in when we were at $117K. Have you no shame? I would be embarrassed.


I continued my search, and it looks like about US 1% of the population works for minimum wage. But I assume that's mostly in sectors where tipping is mandatory, and that can easily add up to more than the wage itself. I can't say I'm a fan of this system though, it favours corporations instead of individuals.

Forgot about the tipping culture. I hate that about the US, I never know what is acceptable.

In Japan, waiters and waitresses feel awkward about accepting tips. It's totally not a thing.

I’ve given a few Japanese waitresses the tip and they seemed appreciative. Cheesy

Roppongi? Shibuya?



42. Post 66069301 (unedited backup) (by bitmover) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 19:45:32 CET 2025) in splash.tf - instant exchange BTC / ETH / XMR / DAI:

Quote from: joker_josue on Today at 07:50:35 AM
As much as I like privacy, I think Bitcoin is better off the way it is. If you want privacy, you'll need to work for it.
Bitcoin is anonymous and private enough, as long as the user knows how to use it.


I strongly agree with this.

I have been using bitcoin for more than 8 years, moved thousands and thousands of dollars around the world and nobody knows that it was me.

I can receive payments by anyone in forum with a very decent degree of privacy, or from anyone else. That is quite enough for me.

If you are super paranoid about privacy you can use a mixer for extra privacy. So many options. I like bitcoin the way it it is too.



43. Post 66069300 (unedited backup) (by OgNasty) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 19:45:32 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 05:56:18 PM
we keep diving thats a fact for now
A bit late, but we're almost there:
In a few months, we'll feel sad Bitcoin is down to $75k again.

You were off by an entire cycle… That’s the most accurate prediction of yours you could find after going back more than 4 years? Now you’re saying we drop to $75K after badmouthing me for saying the top was in when we were at $117K. Have you no shame? I would be embarrassed.



44. Post 66069269 (unedited backup) (by Halab) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 19:40:01 CET 2025) in [Registration] Best Altcoins Portfolio 2025:

The finish line is approaching and weeks go by, but they are not all the same.
Some manage to stabilize their portfolios, while others dare to take my place on the podium Smiley.



   Pos      Users      18/11/2025   
   1      paid2      1 359,56   
   2      internetional      1 215,52   
   3      LoyceV      1 191,72   
   4      Halab      1 148,40   
   5      GazetaBitcoin      1 088,68   
   6      sompitonov      959,23   
         Bitcoin      927,78   
   7      ajiz138      859,01   
   8      memehunter      825,25   
   9      DireWolfM14      818,77   
   10      examplens      760,92   
   11      rat03gopoh      719,23   
   12      icopress      695,93   
   13      n0nce      635,00   
   14      GrosWesh      597,15   
         Average      546,28   
   15      shahzadafzal      536,90   
   16      FinneysTrueVision      535,39   
   17      B1g4udge      532,82   
   18      Smartprofit      526,24   
   19      DYING_S0UL      513,90   
   20      tokeweed      443,80   
   21      Woodie      430,39   
   22      Saint-loup      414,12   
   23      Rikafip      413,85   
   24      jokers10      407,78   
   25      Taskford      393,05   
   26      LogitechMouse      385,93   
   27      SamReomo      373,13   
   28      Despairo      372,40   
   29      xandry      357,62   
   30      cryptofrka      339,80   
         Random_but_balanced      322,82   
   31      klarki      252,61   
   32      bitmover      251,46   
   33      libert19      244,85   
   34      worldofcoins      228,32   
   35      famososMuertos      208,52   
   36      arallmuus      201,72   
   37      Buchi-88      200,81   
   38      Koal-84      175,97   
   39      xLays      133,82   
   40      slackovic      101,41   
                  


Line chart race : https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/23486883/
LCR without Woodie  : https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/24269401/



45. Post 66069235 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 19:29:37 CET 2025) in Are you having trouble accessing bitcointalk?:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 06:48:30 AM
Luckily, my government is going to send everyone in the country a brochure with information how to prepare for a cyber attack Tongue
It sounds to me they know something more and they are preparing for bigger ''cyber attacks'' happening in future, and they can can always blame North Korean hackers for everything Tongue
If I put on my aluminum hat, I'd say it's part of a much bigger agenda: we must be made afraid so we'll give governments even more power.

Don't give ideas LoyceV. They really like to listen to the population and follow their requests.

Hackers can start is to make attacks on Cloudflare as it has a much bigger impact.
In fact, they have become the only target of interest for cyber attacks.



46. Post 66069219 (unedited backup) (by d_eddie) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 19:25:01 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on Today at 02:59:41 PM
I continued my search, and it looks like about US 1% of the population works for minimum wage. But I assume that's mostly in sectors where tipping is mandatory, and that can easily add up to more than the wage itself. I can't say I'm a fan of this system though, it favours corporations instead of individuals.

Forgot about the tipping culture. I hate that about the US, I never know what is acceptable.

In Japan, waiters and waitresses feel awkward about accepting tips. It's totally not a thing.



47. Post 66069123 (unedited backup) (by Hueristic) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 19:02:50 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on Today at 12:22:01 PM
I think the average wage in the US is a lot higher than $10 per hour.
Wiki shows the minimum wage ranges from $7.25 to $17.50, depending on the state.

$7.25 is like £5 an hour. I was earning more than that in my first job 20 years ago. Ridiculous that people are being paid that in a First World Country in 2025.

Safe to say nobody on $7.25 will ever save to buy 1 Bitcoin.

$2.90 here, now its barley enough to bend over and pick off the floor. Smiley.



48. Post 66068780 (unedited backup) (by DaRude) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 17:44:01 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: Greyhats on Today at 03:14:25 PM
I continued my search, and it looks like about US 1% of the population works for minimum wage. But I assume that's mostly in sectors where tipping is mandatory, and that can easily add up to more than the wage itself. I can't say I'm a fan of this system though, it favours corporations instead of individuals.

Forgot about the tipping culture. I hate that about the US, I never know what is acceptable.

20% always with exceptions

Order at counter food/pick up/delivery 15%

I always do 25+% for haircuts

Fixed amounts for certain situations mostly travel related, valet room cleaning butler type duties etc

$5 dirty fiat in the us/1st world countries and 10$ everywhere else.

Trolley dollies 5$ starbs gift cards

15% at the counter and 20% for full service? So you're paying just 5% for someone to come to you, greet you, take your order at your table, bring food to you, come to you to follow up, and clean everything for you without you having to even stand up. wtf is 15% then for?



49. Post 66068654 (unedited backup) (by asUHWEceyc) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 17:10:49 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 03:29:54 PM
20% always with exceptions
Order at counter food/pick up/delivery 15%
I always do 25+% for haircuts
Fixed amounts for certain situations mostly travel related, valet room cleaning butler type duties etc
$5 dirty fiat in the us/1st world countries and 10$ everywhere else.
Trolley dollies 5$ starbs gift cards
But why? Why tip for food but not for groceries? Why tip a restaurant but not a nurse? I'm not used to the American "tipping culture", and to me it looks a lot like a trick to have lower advertised prices, while you still pay more. I can't imagine demanding an additional payment every few minutes when I'm at work, but apparently that's completely normal in some sectors.
certain kinds of nurses that provide excellent service certainly receive tips



50. Post 66068531 (unedited backup) (by Greyhats) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 16:34:19 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 03:29:54 PM
20% always with exceptions
Order at counter food/pick up/delivery 15%
I always do 25+% for haircuts
Fixed amounts for certain situations mostly travel related, valet room cleaning butler type duties etc
$5 dirty fiat in the us/1st world countries and 10$ everywhere else.
Trolley dollies 5$ starbs gift cards
But why? Why tip for food but not for groceries? Why tip a restaurant but not a nurse? I'm not used to the American "tipping culture", and to me it looks a lot like a trick to have lower advertised prices, while you still pay more. I can't imagine demanding an additional payment every few minutes when I'm at work, but apparently that's completely normal in some sectors.

Some jobs pay like $.20/hr and the only way folks earn is thru tips.

Not only that but it’s nice to be nice.



51. Post 66068502 (unedited backup) (by philipma1957) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 16:27:19 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on Today at 02:59:41 PM
I continued my search, and it looks like about US 1% of the population works for minimum wage. But I assume that's mostly in sectors where tipping is mandatory, and that can easily add up to more than the wage itself. I can't say I'm a fan of this system though, it favours corporations instead of individuals.

Forgot about the tipping culture. I hate that about the US, I never know what is acceptable.

do not feel bad I lived in the USA for 67 of 68 years.

and I lose track of what to tip.

also tipping has been expanded .

Go to a bakery buy bread and cookies and there is a tip jar or worse a tip spot on the iPad and a tip jar.

I tip 0 on the iPad and give 2 to 5 dollars in the tip jar.

But with the diabetes I do not do many bakeries.

a restaurant I tip 18 to 25%

I no longer tip UPS, Fedex, the mail man, DHL and Amazon driver for christmas.

List is long than that.

If it is really really hot or really really cold I tip the gas station guy cause in New Jersey we do not pump gas.




52. Post 66068458 (unedited backup) (by Greyhats) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 16:14:31 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on Today at 02:59:41 PM
I continued my search, and it looks like about US 1% of the population works for minimum wage. But I assume that's mostly in sectors where tipping is mandatory, and that can easily add up to more than the wage itself. I can't say I'm a fan of this system though, it favours corporations instead of individuals.

Forgot about the tipping culture. I hate that about the US, I never know what is acceptable.

20% always with exceptions

Order at counter food/pick up/delivery 15%

I always do 25+% for haircuts

Fixed amounts for certain situations mostly travel related, valet room cleaning butler type duties etc

$5 dirty fiat in the us/1st world countries and 10$ everywhere else.



53. Post 66068445 (unedited backup) (by apogio) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 16:12:25 CET 2025) in Pass key or seed phase?:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 02:43:36 PM
Quote
In my area, more types of printer ink are available that aren't waterproof
Use a laser printer, laminate the paper.

This and also create more backups and do occasional health checks! It’s extremely more difficult to lose 2 backups at the same time, than losing your single backup. And it’s even more difficult to lose 3, etc.

You will be surprised how difficult it is to lose access to all of your backups without realizing it! It’s almost impossible, if you are a little cautious, to lose all your backups at the same time

By the way, apply BIP38, as an extra precaution (the only precaution actually) against thieves!




54. Post 66068395 (unedited backup) (by LFC_Bitcoin) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 15:59:43 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 12:28:57 PM
$7.25 is like £5 an hour. I was earning more than that in my first job 20 years ago. Ridiculous that people are being paid that in a First World Country in 2025.
I continued my search, and it looks like about US 1% of the population works for minimum wage. But I assume that's mostly in sectors where tipping is mandatory, and that can easily add up to more than the wage itself. I can't say I'm a fan of this system though, it favours corporations instead of individuals.
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Forgot about the tipping culture. I hate that about the US, I never know what is acceptable.



55. Post 66068103 (unedited backup) (by d_eddie) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 14:39:31 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 12:28:57 PM
$7.25 is like £5 an hour. I was earning more than that in my first job 20 years ago. Ridiculous that people are being paid that in a First World Country in 2025.
I continued my search, and it looks like about US 1% of the population works for minimum wage. But I assume that's mostly in sectors where tipping is mandatory, and that can easily add up to more than the wage itself. I can't say I'm a fan of this system though, it favours corporations instead of individuals.

"Tipping" and "mandatory" is an oxymoron IMHO. If they're employees, you (employer) pay them. Or are you just offsetting labor costs to the customer?



56. Post 66068097 (unedited backup) (by noorman0) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 14:37:43 CET 2025) in Pass key or seed phase?:

Quote from: Karl_3000 on Today at 07:26:15 AM
The reason I do not like paper wallet is because of how hard for me to write down the backup private key but it is easy for me with seed phrase.
It's actually not difficult, even if you don't have an old printer. You can separate the parts before writing them, for example, to memorize a few characters. If you're unsure whether you've written them correctly, use a screen capture or MS Word (or Libre Office on Linux) to temporarily extract the privkey without saving it. Simply leave the window open during the process.

Then, delete the wallet profile and restore it by writing the privkey as if it were a paper backup. If this doesn't work, you can still have the privkey backup in another open window to rewrite. Don't forget to disable the internet and clipboard storage before starting.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 08:41:54 AM
That's where an old dumb offline printer comes in handy Wink
In my area, more types of printer ink are available that aren't waterproof, so I prefer to write it down manually. Or, combine the two: print in gray color, then thicken it with a black bold pen.



57. Post 66067825 (unedited backup) (by LFC_Bitcoin) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 13:22:08 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 11:22:30 AM
I think the average wage in the US is a lot higher than $10 per hour.
Wiki shows the minimum wage ranges from $7.25 to $17.50, depending on the state.

$7.25 is like £5 an hour. I was earning more than that in my first job 20 years ago. Ridiculous that people are being paid that in a First World Country in 2025.

Safe to say nobody on $7.25 will ever save to buy 1 Bitcoin.



58. Post 66067078 (unedited backup) (by LFC_Bitcoin) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 09:35:44 CET 2025) in I received a negative tag, how bad is it?:

Quote from: LoyceV on November 18, 2025, 08:32:07 AM
I remember my first Untrusted negative feedback. It happens, it means nothing and you'll get used to it.
You may want to read LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system.

I think I remember panicking when I got my first one too. We seem to get more if we are actively leaving negative trust regularly. Revenge reds you could say. I don’t tend to get them any more as I’m not an active scam buster. Somebody like JollyGood or nutildah probably get a lot of them.

Like others have said though, negative trusts from non-DT members mean very little and not to be concerned about.



59. Post 66066979 (unedited backup) (by ABCbits) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 09:01:13 CET 2025) in Confusion about Bitcoin Core:

Quote from: LoyceV on November 18, 2025, 03:03:22 PM
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There is no specific reason. I'm just wondering if there is an option to run two separate Bitcoin cores on a PC in case such a situation arises in the future.
You can, on different ports, but I wouldn't recommend it. Electrum is much easier if you want multiple user wallets.

Bitcoin Core create lock file, so multiple Bitcoin Core app can't use same folder path to reduce storage usage. Electrum encryption also means other people can't even see your balance, address and TX history, which also is better in terms of privacy.



60. Post 66066945 (unedited backup) (by joker_josue) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 08:50:37 CET 2025) in splash.tf - instant exchange BTC / ETH / XMR / DAI:

Quote from: LoyceV on November 18, 2025, 07:52:55 AM
As much as I like privacy, I think Bitcoin is better off the way it is. If you want privacy, you'll need to work for it.

I always find it funny when people say that Bitcoin should be more private than it is.

These people should forget that nobody knows who created Bitcoin. Nobody knows who Satoshi is; he has managed to remain anonymous to this day. He might even be using bitcoin, which we don't even know about.

Bitcoin is anonymous and private enough, as long as the user knows how to use it.




61. Post 66066889 (unedited backup) (by Karl_3000) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 08:26:20 CET 2025) in Pass key or seed phase?:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 06:37:49 AM
Bitcoin is even older than paper wallets, so that's not a valid argument to dismiss it. There are other reasons, but there are many reasons why paper wallets can still be used. Even a seed phrase written down on a piece of paper can be called a paper wallet.
The reason I do not like paper wallet is because of how hard for me to write down the backup private key but it is easy for me with seed phrase.

Quote from: apogio on Today at 07:15:23 AM
Technically, a paper wallet (created correctly) can be one of the best and safest way to store bitcoin.
Yes but I will prefer what LoyceV said about it, to make seed phrase a paper wallet which will not require copy and paste but to write down the seed phrase.

I can also use a private key of one of the addresses generated by a seed phrase for it.



62. Post 66066748 (unedited backup) (by Karl_3000) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 07:32:07 CET 2025) in Pass key or seed phase?:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 06:13:07 AM
can't this seed phase be removed from wallet and allow pass key or some codes?
Of course you can do that, it's called a brain wallet. But before doing this, you may want to read Collection of 18.509 found and used Brainwallets.
OP wants to go for the lazy method which is the passkey that some wallets have, the passkey will require your biometry like fingerprint or face detection which can be used to have access to your wallet or be used for the recovery. I will prefer seed phrase to the passkey. I can not also go for anything that is related to paper wallet like brain wallet because I consider them old.



63. Post 66066677 (unedited backup) (by Wind_FURY) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 07:00:25 CET 2025) in Show off your hardware wallet:

Quote from: LoyceV on November 18, 2025, 08:53:42 AM
If the issue for you is about the Ledger being closed source


I'm pretty sure the issue is Ledger's lying about "the seed can't leave the secure element":



the future firmware releases will add the ability to unsubscribe from this service

So they went from "the seed can never leave the secure element" to "don't worry, our software broadcasts your seed to our servers" to "trust me, we won't do that again if you don't want to"? Lol.



I'm confused. Is that when you have their "Ledger Seed Recovery" service on? OR the seed could still be broadcasted to Ledger's servers even if the service is OFF?

That's a serious issue.

But OK, the closed source firmware could also a real issue because we're also merely trusting the company that the device is secure.



64. Post 66066606 (unedited backup) (by nc50lc) (scraped on Wed Nov 19 06:27:20 CET 2025) in Confusion about Bitcoin Core:

Quote from: DarkState on November 18, 2025, 02:55:44 PM
If 5 people use the same user account on the same PC, you may not be looking at the best setup to securely store your Bitcoins. Is there a reason 5 people in the house all want to use Bitcoin Core, or is this only hypothetical?
There is no specific reason. I'm just wondering if there is an option to run two separate Bitcoin cores on a PC in case such a situation arises in the future.
If you really has to, you may create a shortcut containing a command line arg --wallet="path_to_your_custom_wallet_location" containing your "your_wallet_name" folder that has your wallet.dat file.
Of course, unload your wallet first, close Bitcoin Core, and move that to your preferred personal/hidden directory.
Then save that shortcut to your personal folder.
(instructions depend on your OS)

With that set-up, if you use the shortcut to start Bitcoin Core, your wallet will automatically be loaded on startup. (including their wallets)
But if your family members use the normal shortcut without the command line arg, it'll only open their loaded wallets.

But be warned that this essentially loads and unloads the wallets as you open and exit Core using the shortcut.
So in a "pruned" setup, it may get to the point of being unbale to rescan if you left it unloaded for a few weeks (depending on your prune size settings)



65. Post 66065807 (unedited backup) (by dkbit98) (scraped on Tue Nov 18 22:47:49 CET 2025) in splash.tf - instant exchange BTC / ETH / XMR / DAI:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 07:52:55 AM
I think that would be the end of Bitcoin as we know it. Governments won't allow it, which will kill mainstream adoption as regulated exchanges would be forced to delist it (like Monero). Developers could face the same faith as Tornado Cash devs.
As much as I like privacy, I think Bitcoin is better off the way it is. If you want privacy, you'll need to work for it.
I don't think so because many countries and companies already own a lot of bitcoin.
Worst thing we can see is bitcoin having another split into separate chains, so we can see who really values privacy.
And even adding optional privacy would be fine for me, similar like litecoin did with mimble wimble.
If we continue the way we are going BlackRock and similar corporations will ''adopt'' and destroy bitcoin sooner or later.



66. Post 66065731 (unedited backup) (by dkbit98) (scraped on Tue Nov 18 22:25:19 CET 2025) in [ANN] Bridgoro Exchange - Participate in Beta Test and Earn up to 300 USDT:

Quote from: bitmover on November 17, 2025, 07:51:35 PM
I will try to farm some faucet later. Maybe bridgoro could add a few recommendations of faucets on how to get those coins and which wallets to use. Or if anyone is helping them, please share your wallets and how to get the coins
Be careful not to make mistake like I did in previous round, when I had bitcoin testnet4 coins and Bridgoro exchange accepted only testnet3 coins.
If you are planning to join new Beta Test than first read documentation carefully, and find correct faucet links.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 08:22:35 AM
I think so: mempool shows a transaction every 20 minutes, once in a while replaced by a blockstorm with thousands of transactions in a short amount of time. But mempool is empty and each block includes a few transactions, so low-fee transactions should work.
I will check it out, but I don't understand why they had to switch to testnet4 in the first place... I get it some people started selling worthless testnet coins, but they continue doing the same thing for testnet4 also  Roll Eyes



67. Post 66065503 (unedited backup) (by dkbit98) (scraped on Tue Nov 18 21:36:43 CET 2025) in Are you having trouble accessing bitcointalk?:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 03:06:30 PM
Luckily, my government is going to send everyone in the country a brochure with information how to prepare for a cyber attack Tongue
It sounds to me they know something more and they are preparing for bigger ''cyber attacks'' happening in future, and they can can always blame North Korean hackers for everything Tongue
Cloudflare is obviously one centralized point that can shut down most of the internet with one push of a button, and some countries even have internet kill switches.

Quote from: TryNinja on Today at 03:06:42 PM
AWS = 50% of the internet down
Cloudflare = the other 50% of the internet down
I think cloudflare have bigger percentage in real life, but anyway this two cloud services are holding most of the internet for sure.



68. Post 66064954 (unedited backup) (by Ambatman) (scraped on Tue Nov 18 19:09:37 CET 2025) in Are you having trouble accessing bitcointalk?:

Today experience made me realize how dependent many platform are reliant on Cloudflare
despite how big they are.
Twitter and facebook was affected as well. 

Quote from: TryNinja on Today at 03:06:42 PM

We're f*cked.
I'm sure someone might have considered a decentralized protocol but the fact it isn't widely used means it's flaws outpace it's strength.




Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 02:37:13 PM
To quote theymos:
How do you always have a Theymos quote for almost everything meta. It's impressive though.



69. Post 66064120 (unedited backup) (by Lucius) (scraped on Tue Nov 18 16:07:20 CET 2025) in Are you having trouble accessing bitcointalk?:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 02:50:36 PM
It is honestly scary that a one service provider could affect millions(probably) of internet users globally.
Now imagine this:
Cloudflare is very probably an NSA honeypot

In this case, we have a paradox that the service, which is very likely exactly what the admin thinks, can at any moment disable access to all websites that use it. Considering the rich treasure of the forum and the fact that there are alternative services that do the same as CF (some say they do it well), it is not clear to me that this forum still relies on CF.



70. Post 66064066 (unedited backup) (by DarkState) (scraped on Tue Nov 18 15:55:44 CET 2025) in Confusion about Bitcoin Core:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 02:41:47 PM

Quote
The same way as any other data: make backups. If you lose your wallet, you lose your Bitcoin.
So what is an efficient way to backup? Should I copy the files to a separate device after every transaction in my wallet?

Quote
If 5 people use the same user account on the same PC, you may not be looking at the best setup to securely store your Bitcoins. Is there a reason 5 people in the house all want to use Bitcoin Core, or is this only hypothetical?

There is no specific reason. I'm just wondering if there is an option to run two separate Bitcoin cores on a PC in case such a situation arises in the future.



71. Post 66064024 (unedited backup) (by virasog) (scraped on Tue Nov 18 15:45:55 CET 2025) in Are you having trouble accessing bitcointalk?:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 02:37:13 PM
Many of the sites I regularly use are now inaccessible. No DDoS would ever be able to take this many sites down worldwide at the same time!

It's amazing how wide Cloudflare's reach is. To quote theymos:
The Internet is seriously flawed if everyone needs to huddle behind these huge centralized anti-DDoS companies in order to survive...

I am really surprised as how Cloudflare's service disruption could affect the whole of the Internet. This was the biggest Internet outage i experienced due to cloudfare server errors.
And for those who didn't know why the bitcointalk, GPTS, X, almost all of the LLMS and many other sites could be accessible, here is what is going on. 

Cloudflare down latest: Websites such as Twitter not working amid technical problems with the internet

Even though they have claimed to have fixed the error, but still we are facing issues on and off accessing the sites.



72. Post 66064015 (unedited backup) (by BTCETFInvestor) (scraped on Tue Nov 18 15:43:19 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 08:59:38 AM
Bottom is ore almost in.
We endured many 30% dumps before.
I always tell myself 30% drops are normal on the way up. Don't get me wrong, I don't like droppings, but I'm not going to panic-sell and miss the 30% increase in a week when everyone who sold now jumps back on the train. There's less and less fundamental reason to have a 4 year cycle, and I'm not going to join a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Quote
Every single decline since Bitcoin's inception has been followed by new highs, this time is no different.
It just makes no sense to sell off Bitcoin into a 30% drop just because the FED may not lower the interest by 0.25% next month. Is this going to be a "sell the rumor, buy the news" event?

Quote
Wiping out leveraged cunts before resuming the bull.
Now it's time to wipe out the shorts.

A 30% drop is a prelude to a likely 60+% future increase.



73. Post 66063954 (unedited backup) (by Shishir99) (scraped on Tue Nov 18 13:32:19 CET 2025) in Merit tarrif:

Quote from: NotATether on November 08, 2025, 03:11:42 PM
I think you just gave theymos an idea for next year's April Fools.

But I think he wasted the idea, actually. If we discuss these things now, most people will already be aware of them, so such an idea won't be successful when it is needed the most. Free Market Capitalist wasted another similar idea a few weeks ago. I would request that people DM their idea to theymos so he can pick the one that suits him. We needed some people who are political leaders in real life. They are among the most successful individuals, as they can easily deceive people with false promises. Legendary members should be taxed 100% if they do not earn merit for each of their posts. The ratio will be 1:1. LoyceV alone can make 19x Legendaries with his merits by paying tax Tongue



74. Post 66063662 (unedited backup) (by gordonics.com) (scraped on Tue Nov 18 11:22:49 CET 2025) in Suspicious loans given by "Minor Miner" and "gordonics.com" to "₿itcoin":

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 09:46:42 AM
Hi, no one send PM to me to discuss this thread, so I hope it's not too late.
You've had negative feedback from DT on your profile for 3 weeks, with a Reference link to this topic, and you've posted on boards where that negative shows up. It doesn't make sense to pretend you haven't seen this thread because you didn't receive a PM about it.


Ok, I apologize for this oversight too.



75. Post 66061769 (unedited backup) (by dkbit98) (scraped on Mon Nov 17 20:59:01 CET 2025) in splash.tf - instant exchange BTC / ETH / XMR / DAI:

Quote from: LoyceV on October 31, 2025, 09:32:23 PM
I don't think exchanges or even banks give a shit about where your coins come from, but the fines they've collected over the years make them compliant.
That is true.
Many of us still can remember the days when all exchanges could be used without mandatory KYC.
But I think it's not only about fines, they started arresting people like CZ and putting them in jail, that is much more serious.

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The bank has never asked me for proof of the origin of the money
Bitcoin is maturing. That leaves just small exchanges for anyone who still wants privacy.
[/quote]
Or maybe it's time to make Bitcoin protocol changes and add privacy on based level, and maybe add quantum resistance along the way.



76. Post 66061664 (unedited backup) (by dkbit98) (scraped on Mon Nov 17 20:27:49 CET 2025) in [ANN] Bridgoro Exchange - Participate in Beta Test and Earn up to 300 USDT:

Quote from: bitmover on November 15, 2025, 10:40:55 AM
Does any of you have some bitcoin testnet coins? Or ethereum.
Thanks  Smiley
Not anymore, but you should try getting small amount from faucets.
I had a bunch of v3 testnet bitcoin but this was on old hardware wallet, and they switched from v3 to v4, and that erased all my coins  Tongue
Maybe someone knows how to recover this coins, without exposing the keys or messing up something.

Quote from: LoyceV on November 15, 2025, 11:30:36 AM
Both testnets are severely broken now: v3 coins are hard to get, v4 takes hours to get a confirmation because someone mines only empty blocks.
This sucks.
Is v3 testnet transactions still working fine?



77. Post 66060077 (unedited backup) (by bitmover) (scraped on Mon Nov 17 14:52:13 CET 2025) in EXOLIX SENT ME STOLEN COINS, AND MY FUNDS ARE BLOCKED:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 10:04:56 AM
I think in crypto things are just going way too far...
Exchanges fear regulators, not their users. So they stay on the safe side for their own interests.

Because regulations do not protect uses as they should. They worry just about AML, and dont care if innocent people lose their money in this war against money laundry...

This is a wrong approach.

Regulations should be protecting users as well. As examplens mentioned, period of times to release funds, what documents they can ask, etc..



78. Post 66059927 (unedited backup) (by examplens) (scraped on Mon Nov 17 14:16:13 CET 2025) in EXOLIX SENT ME STOLEN COINS, AND MY FUNDS ARE BLOCKED:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 10:04:56 AM
I think in crypto things are just going way too far...
Exchanges fear regulators, not their users. So they stay on the safe side for their own interests.
Regulators could define this part a little better, rather than regulating by instilling fear in exchanges. For example, to know exactly which exchanges have the right to freeze user funds, because we increasingly see that anyone can take someone's coins under the pretext of AML.
If funds are already frozen, the regulator must prescribe the exact procedure for what happens with such coins. In what period of time must it be resolved, and in what ways. As well as what sanctions exchangers bear in case they behave outside such rules.



79. Post 66059895 (unedited backup) (by lovesmayfamilis) (scraped on Mon Nov 17 14:06:13 CET 2025) in AI Spam Report Reference Thread:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 12:22:00 PM
What's the verdict on Newbie LoudSword? He's already on my Ignore list, and now posting generic shitposts on the tech boards:
Create a venue where patrons can enjoy Bitcoin-themed drinks, host cryptocurrency-related events, and provide educational resources.
Since Satoshi has remained anonymous and ceased public communication in 2010, it's difficult to gauge their expectations directly. This disconnection adds a layer of intrigue about whether they anticipated Bitcoin's evolution into a widespread investment vehicle or its use as a store of value.
The warning you encountered suggests there's a conflict in how your node is handling connections.
Assign a separate binding for Tor connections. You could use a different port (e.g., 8334 for Tor) as follows:
  • bind=127.0.0.1:8333
    bind=127.0.0.1:8334
Tor Configuration: Explicitly set the options for Tor:
  • listenonion=1
Reconfigure rpcbind: Ensure that your RPC service binds only to the localhost:
  • rpcbind=127.0.0.1
Let me know if that worked for you
Companies specializing in blockchain analysis can employ sophisticated methods to trace transactions, even those involving CoinJoin, and can sometimes identify patterns that might expose the origin of funds.
Timing played a vital role, but the broader framework of societal change was equally important in fostering an environment where Bitcoin could thrive.
Evaluating Bitcoin's worth involves considering personal investment goals, risk tolerance, and belief in its underlying principles
The question of whether a core developer for Bitcoin should be a maximalist involves examining the role these developers play. Ideally, Bitcoin core developers focus on improving the protocol without bias against other cryptocurrencies. They need to possess a comprehensive understanding of various technological ecosystems and the potential benefits and drawbacks of each.
You raise a crucial point about Bitcoin's foundational principle of decentralization. While Bitcoin was indeed created to foster financial freedom, the reality of its decentralization is more intricate than it first appears.
If a few mining pools coordinate their actions, they could potentially disrupt transaction validation and network integrity, which goes against the spirit of decentralization.
Ensure you have the JSON file and know the password that was set during the creation of the wallet.
You’re correct that xpub refers to legacy addresses while zpub corresponds to SegWit addresses, including both native SegWit (bc1q) and Taproot (bc1p) addresses.
Operate Bitcoin-related software from a non-sudo user account to limit vulnerabilities.
In practice, the highest-entropy BIP-39 seed phrase would use 24 words. This corresponds to a 256-bit random number, which is widely accepted as providing sufficient entropy to resist brute-force attacks.

Since it's difficult to check all the posts, they can be combined and sent to detectors for review. As you can see, these are texts written by artificial intelligence. Although in one detector, there is a possibility that the text was edited.

Quote from: LoudSword on November 16, 2025, 11:19:02 AM
Since Satoshi has remained anonymous and ceased public communication in 2010, it's difficult to gauge their expectations directly. This disconnection adds a layer of intrigue about whether they anticipated Bitcoin's evolution into a widespread investment vehicle or its use as a store of value.

The warning you encountered suggests there's a conflict in how your node is handling connections.
Assign a separate binding for Tor connections. You could use a different port (e.g., 8334 for Tor) as follows:
bind=127.0.0.1:8333
bind=127.0.0.1:8334
Tor Configuration: Explicitly set the options for Tor:
listenonion=1
Reconfigure rpcbind: Ensure that your RPC service binds only to the localhost:
rpcbind=127.0.0.1
Let me know if that worked for you

Companies specializing in blockchain analysis can employ sophisticated methods to trace transactions, even those involving CoinJoin, and can sometimes identify patterns that might expose the origin of funds.

Timing played a vital role, but the broader framework of societal change was equally important in fostering an environment where Bitcoin could thrive.

Evaluating Bitcoin's worth involves considering personal investment goals, risk tolerance, and belief in its underlying principles

The question of whether a core developer for Bitcoin should be a maximalist involves examining the role these developers play. Ideally, Bitcoin core developers focus on improving the protocol without bias against other cryptocurrencies. They need to possess a comprehensive understanding of various technological ecosystems and the potential benefits and drawbacks of each.

You raise a crucial point about Bitcoin's foundational principle of decentralization. While Bitcoin was indeed created to foster financial freedom, the reality of its decentralization is more intricate than it first appears.
If a few mining pools coordinate their actions, they could potentially disrupt transaction validation and network integrity, which goes against the spirit of decentralization.

Ensure you have the JSON file and know the password that was set during the creation of the wallet.

You’re correct that xpub refers to legacy addresses while zpub corresponds to SegWit addresses, including both native SegWit (bc1q) and Taproot (bc1p) addresses.

In practice, the highest-entropy BIP-39 seed phrase would use 24 words. This corresponds to a 256-bit random number, which is widely accepted as providing sufficient entropy to resist brute-force attacks.

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80. Post 66059179 (unedited backup) (by bitmover) (scraped on Mon Nov 17 10:26:37 CET 2025) in EXOLIX SENT ME STOLEN COINS, AND MY FUNDS ARE BLOCKED:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 08:13:49 AM
Let's say you're a restaurant owner, and a terrorist had a meal. He pays with his debit card, and you receive his money. I don't think your account will be frozen for that. If it's a bigger amount, say for buying a car, it's still totally fine as long as it goes through the banking system. If they want to freeze it, they should have frozen it at an earlier stage, not when it reaches your account. And that's part of the problem with crypto: some services freeze funds, others do not.

Yeah, I have been thinking about this situation as well...

Certainly it is similar. And even a doctor may find himself in such situation, where a terrorist had a medical appointment and paid with a wire transfer. Will the doctor have a problem in such situation?

I think in crypto things are just going way too far...



81. Post 66058898 (unedited backup) (by Pmalek) (scraped on Mon Nov 17 08:47:44 CET 2025) in Show off your hardware wallet:

Quote from: NeuroticFish on November 16, 2025, 07:17:31 PM
This is long due, I no longer trust nor use my old Ledger Nano, I've switched to Trezor Safe 3.
The Ledger Nano is for now gathering dust.
It looks nice. The back cover has a metallic look to it. I guess it's aluminum. It's better than cheap plastic anyways. I won a Trezor Safe 3 in a contest several months ago but I still haven't gotten my hands on it. I can't remember which color it is. I will add the Safe 3 next to your name in the table.

Quote from: LoyceV on November 16, 2025, 07:27:44 PM
I don't like the small display: as much as I dislike Ledger, their "Nano" was easier to read. I prefer more scrolling over smaller letters that make it impossible to distinguish between for instance "u" and "v".
Same here. The Ledger Nano S divides an address in three parts, while the Trezor One shows everything at once, but I have to strain my eyes to see the characters properly. I hope it will be easier to read on the Trezor Safe 3.



82. Post 66058457 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Mon Nov 17 04:55:19 CET 2025) in Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - get whitelisted for free:

Quote from: LoyceV on November 16, 2025, 07:34:01 PM
This request is too good not to share:
Quote
I believe the issue happened because I used [home WiFi / mobile data / shared ISP / public network], which may have been previously abused by other users.
Did someone just forget to customize a template? Who's creating those templates?

There are times when the answer does really end up happening to be "all of the above."  Didn't you know that?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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83. Post 66057872 (unedited backup) (by Ultegra134) (scraped on Sun Nov 16 23:37:13 CET 2025) in Why the Forum still has the Old School Vibe & Look?:

Quote from: vapourminer on November 13, 2025, 03:25:34 PM
cant speak for others but i like the simplistic, almost BBS look as its largely static - no banners, animations or other distracting junk vying for your attention.
I also agree, I like the simplistic layout and I'm not bothered about it not being "modernized" or up to today's standards. As LoyceV and a few others already mentioned, you've been quoted why the new website isn't being pursued anymore. Epochtalk was supposed to be the updated version of Bitcointalk, but let's say things didn't go as planned and we're "stuck" with the current one. Personally, I'm totally okay with that and I actually prefer this than the Epochtalk version.



84. Post 66057649 (unedited backup) (by bitmover) (scraped on Sun Nov 16 22:44:13 CET 2025) in EXOLIX SENT ME STOLEN COINS, AND MY FUNDS ARE BLOCKED:

Quote from: examplens on Today at 09:18:59 PM
It’s 100% stolen coins from a phishing attack. Do you think any exchange would accept that?
That's where fungibility comes in play: I bet I have euro bills in my wallet that have been used by criminals at some point in the past. But none of that is my problem, as long as I'm not involved in the crimes, and nobody would blame me for having received those bills.
And that can be interpreted in different ways. For example, a friend of mine bought a mobile phone, which was later found to be stolen. The epilogue is that he returned the phone when the investigation came to that, but he did not get his money back. Yes, when he bought the device, he didn't know it was stolen.
I believe that crypto regulators also adhere to this model.

I agree with examplens, things are not that simple.

I think those concepts of "tainted coins" are going to  evolve.

Certainly a dollar bill isn't a problem, as LoyceV pointed out.
But if a terrorist makes a SWIFT deposit to your account, you will face problems and your fiat money will be frozen. I think this is a similar situation... The point is that the thief made already many transactions (to Exolix, from Exolix to OP, and from OP to the CEX), and the authorities just got the last one.



85. Post 66057531 (unedited backup) (by examplens) (scraped on Sun Nov 16 22:19:02 CET 2025) in EXOLIX SENT ME STOLEN COINS, AND MY FUNDS ARE BLOCKED:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 07:11:22 AM
It’s 100% stolen coins from a phishing attack. Do you think any exchange would accept that?
That's where fungibility comes in play: I bet I have euro bills in my wallet that have been used by criminals at some point in the past. But none of that is my problem, as long as I'm not involved in the crimes, and nobody would blame me for having received those bills.
And that can be interpreted in different ways. For example, a friend of mine bought a mobile phone, which was later found to be stolen. The epilogue is that he returned the phone when the investigation came to that, but he did not get his money back. Yes, when he bought the device, he didn't know it was stolen.
I believe that crypto regulators also adhere to this model.



86. Post 66057377 (unedited backup) (by PrivacyG) (scraped on Sun Nov 16 21:38:02 CET 2025) in Why the Forum still has the Old School Vibe & Look?:

Bitcoin Talk is meant to be a community for Bitcoin enthusiasts.  It is not meant to get you addicted to the screen, to get you to click all the fanciest advertisements or anything else.  For that reason, I do not mind the old look at all.  In fact, this is a classic look that will in my opinion never get out dated considering many other large Forums still adopt similar designs.

If Theymos decides to move for a more modern look, he will have to keep up with what 'modern' means in the future.  In my sole opinion, this is a waste of resources for no real benefit.

It would be nice if the Forum would dynamically adapt to the size of the screen.  Not for me, I never use my phone to log in to Bitcoin Talk, but I noticed a lot of people do and I imagine it must be difficult to navigate on a small screen size.  Other wise, it is as basic as it can be and it is for the better.  The way Theymos changed it in time to adapt Bitcoin Talk even for No JavaScript users, to protect against Bots, the Merit system et cetera, it is a highly functional Forum.  Why should he change it?

Statistics can be automated on a more modern Forum but then what is the point.  I believe it is one of the most interesting parts of the Forum when a Member decides to use information and create a graph, statistics, what not.  And like LoyceV, I hate automated algorithms and the less information is automated, filtered, centralized et cetera the better.

And last but not least.  As much as I like simplistic modern looks, I would miss this design.  It is a representation of what Satoshi created and left us.  This design is historic and there is no way I would want it changed only for looks.



87. Post 66057337 (unedited backup) (by philipma1957) (scraped on Sun Nov 16 21:24:25 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: OgNasty on Today at 07:38:27 PM
I can’t resist trolling the people who get mad at those who accurately predict what is going to happen.
You're so full of it:
I think a top price between $130K-$170K is most likely, occurring sometime between the beginning of September and the end of November.

Funny how I post here daily and you had to go back half a year to find a prediction I made that was off by 3%!!! That’s your best example of me being full of it? 3% off a multi year high!?! That’s my example of the cope here being out of control already. People even merited that…. LOL. Cope city. How far back you think I’d have to go to find you being hilariously wrong?

og just post here with your pick for nov 19

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5565633.0

and loycev you post too.

lets see who is closer for the 19 of nov

fuck 'the past it's just a goodby'




88. Post 66057169 (unedited backup) (by OgNasty) (scraped on Sun Nov 16 20:38:31 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 07:24:07 PM
I can’t resist trolling the people who get mad at those who accurately predict what is going to happen.
You're so full of it:
I think a top price between $130K-$170K is most likely, occurring sometime between the beginning of September and the end of November.

I have long said I go by the date, not the price. Funny how I post here daily and you had to go back half a year to find a prediction I made that was off by 3%… That’s your best example of me being full of it? That my example of the cope here being out of control already. How far back you think I’d have to go to find you being hilariously wrong?



89. Post 66057140 (unedited backup) (by NeuroticFish) (scraped on Sun Nov 16 20:32:25 CET 2025) in Show off your hardware wallet:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 07:27:44 PM
I've switched to Trezor Safe 3.
I don't like the small display: as much as I dislike Ledger, their "Nano" was easier to read. I prefer more scrolling over smaller letters that make it impossible to distinguish between for instance "u" and "v".

I 100% agree. Just price was a factor and I've noticed the small text.. only when the device was already at home  Embarrassed
On the other hand that's the only minus. It works very well and with glasses on everything can be read too Wink



90. Post 66056252 (unedited backup) (by bestcandy) (scraped on Sun Nov 16 16:44:31 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: CLS63 on Today at 10:19:50 AM
In this market greedy bastards like me can't win. I've been telling myself to buy Bitcoin if it goes down below 100k dollars. However this time I want to see 75k dollars. I will have a question to ask the geniuses here. Is it the right time now to start buying gradually or should I wait a little longer?


Holy fucking shit, CLS63.  Are you trolling us? You have been here since August 2017 and you are still fucking around trying to figure out when to buy dee cornz?

You should have had already been buying since August 2017 and that would have had helped you to answer your own question, since if you had been buying since August 2017, then either you can continue to buy or if you had gotten enough, then you would have had stopped buying at some point and then your stash size might inform you whether you might buy on certain dips.

Where you are at might help to answer your own question... and sorry for your loss if you spent 8 years on the forum without steadily buying bitcoin or some variation of such.

In this market greedy bastards like me can't win. I've been telling myself to buy Bitcoin if it goes down below 100k dollars. However this time I want to see 75k dollars.
You've been here for 8 years, what took you so long?
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I will have a question to ask the geniuses here. Is it the right time now to start buying gradually or should I wait a little longer?
I'll tell you next week Tongue More serious answer: "buying gradually" sounds like DCA. The whole point of DCA is that you don't try to time the market, so you can start anytime you want.

I see that Loyce beat me to it.



I assume that I expressed myself wrong. I didn't say that I didn't buy any Bitcoin for 8 years. But I needed to start over because of the distress I had nearly 3 years ago. Sometimes things are out of your control in your life. Now I'm in a state to be able to make an investment again. I have a job and salary. I thought of buying Bitcoin because of this and I wondered the opinions of the geniuses here. Cheesy
If you critically look at the way the market is going this days I think buying now is the best decision any investor can make. $95k price is a unique opportunity and I think it will be more favourable to buy with Lump sum for those that have the financial capacity because it gives them the opportunity to leverage this dip period to accumulate more Bitcoin to their portfolio. The reason why I say that lump sum is more favourable now than DCA is because anybody that have good funds can use this opportunity to buy more Bitcoin but those that want to use DCA may end up not buying much before the price will rise above the present price.



91. Post 66055154 (unedited backup) (by CLS63) (scraped on Sun Nov 16 11:19:55 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 15, 2025, 08:25:52 PM
In this market greedy bastards like me can't win. I've been telling myself to buy Bitcoin if it goes down below 100k dollars. However this time I want to see 75k dollars. I will have a question to ask the geniuses here. Is it the right time now to start buying gradually or should I wait a little longer?


Holy fucking shit, CLS63.  Are you trolling us? You have been here since August 2017 and you are still fucking around trying to figure out when to buy dee cornz?

You should have had already been buying since August 2017 and that would have had helped you to answer your own question, since if you had been buying since August 2017, then either you can continue to buy or if you had gotten enough, then you would have had stopped buying at some point and then your stash size might inform you whether you might buy on certain dips.

Where you are at might help to answer your own question... and sorry for your loss if you spent 8 years on the forum without steadily buying bitcoin or some variation of such.

In this market greedy bastards like me can't win. I've been telling myself to buy Bitcoin if it goes down below 100k dollars. However this time I want to see 75k dollars.
You've been here for 8 years, what took you so long?
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I will have a question to ask the geniuses here. Is it the right time now to start buying gradually or should I wait a little longer?
I'll tell you next week Tongue More serious answer: "buying gradually" sounds like DCA. The whole point of DCA is that you don't try to time the market, so you can start anytime you want.

I see that Loyce beat me to it.



I assume that I expressed myself wrong. I didn't say that I didn't buy any Bitcoin for 8 years. But I needed to start over because of the distress I had nearly 3 years ago. Sometimes things are out of your control in your life. Now I'm in a state to be able to make an investment again. I have a job and salary. I thought of buying Bitcoin because of this and I wondered the opinions of the geniuses(!) here. Cheesy



92. Post 66053227 (unedited backup) (by JayJuanGee) (scraped on Sat Nov 15 21:25:55 CET 2025) in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion:

Quote from: El duderino_ on Today at 08:22:49 AM
New poll: ATH before 2026?
The answer is yes.
No one knows .... But i'm in for it.
You don't sound confident.
If you were a betting man, then on a 50/50 bet, then which side would you take?

Personally I would have a hard time taking such a bet.. since there are only 6-ish weeks remaining in this calendar year.
If I would bet for this year making ATH I really don't know, but I would always go for it as long we are less as 30% from ATH

Well right now, as I type this post, we have ONLY 6.5 weeks before the end of the year.

It is funny how percentages go, yet to go up to the ATH, we have to go up 31.5% from the current price of $96k in order to touch upon the ATH of $126,272 (that is $126,272 / $96,000).. On the other hand, if we want to proclaim how much we dipped from the top, it is ONLY 24% (that is $96,000 / $126,272).. .funny how numbers (maths) work like that.

No matter the calculation.. it is a bit of ground to make up, and surely it is not impossible to happen in 6.5 weeks.

Let's see what happens..

Quote from: CLS63 on Today at 10:47:47 AM
In this market greedy bastards like me can't win. I've been telling myself to buy Bitcoin if it goes down below 100k dollars. However this time I want to see 75k dollars. I will have a question to ask the geniuses here. Is it the right time now to start buying gradually or should I wait a little longer?


Holy fucking shit, CLS63.  Are you trolling us? You have been here since August 2017 and you are still fucking around trying to figure out when to buy dee cornz?

You should have had already been buying since August 2017 and that would have had helped you to answer your own question, since if you had been buying since August 2017, then either you can continue to buy or if you had gotten enough, then you would have had stopped buying at some point and then your stash size might inform you whether you might buy on certain dips.

Where you are at might help to answer your own question... and sorry for your loss if you spent 8 years on the forum without steadily buying bitcoin or some variation of such.

Quote from: d_eddie on Today at 12:05:12 PM
In this market greedy bastards like me can't win. I've been telling myself to buy Bitcoin if it goes down below 100k dollars. However this time I want to see 75k dollars. I will have a question to ask the geniuses here. Is it the right time now to start buying gradually or should I wait a little longer?

I would wait for ~25k. HFSP.

You BIG meanie d_eddie.  I see a lot of folks waiting for $70k.. as if that is not unrealistic enough.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 01:02:18 PM
In this market greedy bastards like me can't win. I've been telling myself to buy Bitcoin if it goes down below 100k dollars. However this time I want to see 75k dollars.
You've been here for 8 years, what took you so long?
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I will have a question to ask the geniuses here. Is it the right time now to start buying gradually or should I wait a little longer?
I'll tell you next week Tongue More serious answer: "buying gradually" sounds like DCA. The whole point of DCA is that you don't try to time the market, so you can start anytime you want.

I see that Loyce beat me to it.

Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 02:58:10 PM
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He could do dip
And dca.
10k to invest

100 a week for a year is 5200

 800 on separate dips
94k
89k
84k
79k
74k
69k

He may never put any dip money in since we may never go to 94k or lower.

But he will do the 5200 with the dca

$10k to invest.  Put $5k in right now. 

Invest $2,600 for the next 26 weeks at $100 per week.

Invest another $2,400-ish for buying dips that may or may not happen.. and we still need to be happy even if the dips do not happen. $300 starting at $92k then 7 more every $3k down at $89k, $86k, $83k, $80k, $77k $74k and $71k.   

Of course there are a variety of ways to be creative since it is likely that a guy has an amount available and then he has an income coming in too.. so both the amount that he has and the amount that he has coming in needs to be accounted.. and since his investment in bitcoin should be 4-10 years or longer, he likely will need a couple of cycles to really make progress.. even though along the way of his investing, he may well have additional money come in that he is able to dedicate to bitcoin investing.. that is if he has enough enthusiasm for bitcoin rather than just cashing out every year, as some people do (and then don't make any progress, even after investing in bitcoin for 10 years or more).

Quote from: Charcol on Today at 03:07:46 PM
In this market greedy bastards like me can't win. I've been telling myself to buy Bitcoin if it goes down below 100k dollars. However this time I want to see 75k dollars.
You've been here for 8 years, what took you so long?
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I will have a question to ask the geniuses here. Is it the right time now to start buying gradually or should I wait a little longer?
I'll tell you next week Tongue More serious answer: "buying gradually" sounds like DCA. The whole point of DCA is that you don't try to time the market, so you can start anytime you want.
If you are ready to buy...

You are correct.  Some folks are not "ready to buy."  So that is a problem for those people.. yet what are the reasons for their not being "ready to buy?" The devil is in the details, no?

Quote from: BobLawblaw on Today at 04:54:21 PM
NGL, thinking of taking some profit again next time we hit $100k USD/BTC.
The economic numbers have me a bit spooked, and would be nice to just sit on the cash. Schwab has a really good money market account.

The fact the govt isn't releasing October numbers is... historic.
Not sure we're gunna see $125k USD/BTC before the end of the year.

Would love to be wrong.
Have a great weekend, folks.

Yeah but.

What about early 2026?

Quote from: OgNasty on Today at 06:05:34 PM
The crazy part about today’s losses are that Strategy is currently buying with $700+ million dollars raised from the STRE offering. Saylor confirmed this during an interview this morning. It looks a lot like this market and Strategy are cooked. I don’t see how Saylor doesn’t get sued by his shareholders for all his preferred offerings at this point. Hopefully he has some of that $700+ million earmarked for a weekend pump…
Saylor said in his tweet on Nov 14, 2025 that "We bought bitcoin every day this week."

He is not missing out on any opportunity to buy Bitcoin whether it's up or down in price.
That is all he can do. So he likely will buy this weekend too right? Not sure if you were trying to have a gotcha moment there or what… He keeps saying he can’t be liquidated, but he sure as hell can send his stock price to $0, get sued, lose, be forced to sell his BTC, and crash the market. Dumb people (you know who you are) think he can’t be liquidated. Anyone with a brain realizes he can be forced to sell by a judge and most likely will after a painful legal battle if his stock price continues to plummet.

A lot of "what ifs" in there, Mr. Legal expert.