LoyceV's Bitcointalk Notifications: all posts that quoted or mentioned LoyceV in the past 7 days

Quote from: Forsyth Jones on December 25, 2025, 07:40:36 PM

I hope that the address I mentioned above can be checked by truly reliable members such as LoyceV and others, because I know that only they are truly capable of analyzing on-chain data.

I try to avoid anything related to "analyzing" altcoin chains.

apart from ethereum, analysis on other chains only brings headaches unfortunately
I also get fed up with doing it, it annoys me to do it, I don't know if it's because I have a certain rejection of using alts or simply because I'm too used to bitcoin
I honestly can't tell

In any case, good job guys, for the analysis and for the investigative skills.

Speaking of which, is it just me, or has Monero been outperforming Bitcoin this year? I thought that because Monero is extremely niche and prohibited from being supported on exchanges, it would hurt its price.

There is a lot of manipulation in this market, but some people finally realized the real value of having privacy coin that is full fungible, so yes monero performed very good this year.
If you look at street price than difference is even more obvious.

Quote from: TryNinja on December 25, 2025, 08:52:02 PM

I guess fewer exchanges means way less trading and speculation (fake leveraged ups and downs) and more real demand from privacy people who actually use the coin to buy and sell stuff online. Cheesy

I many websites that seel stuff I always see bitcoin and monero on top, with all other coins being more like statistical error.

Quote from: LoyceV on December 26, 2025, 08:03:03 AM

Monero more than doubled, Bitcoin dropped slightly, gold increased 70%. Monero is one of the few altcoins that did good this year, the large majority lost against Bitcoin.

Silver also increased a lot, but I don't know the exact numbers.
They delisted monero from most centraslized exchange and they did everyone a favor

Even Splash exchgange said that monero coins are gone very quickly and they are not easy to purchase for a good price.

Quote from: examplens on December 26, 2025, 12:57:18 PM

You can also add Zcash (#ZEC) here. Which also has privacy features and has significantly outperformed many major coins, especially in the last quarter. Plus, ZEC is still present on most CEX, much simpler to trade and manage than XMR.
I've seen on other networks that there's a lot of discussion about whether Zcash can enter Monero territory.

It's only listed as Zec on centralized exchanges and that is not private at all, that is only optional with addresses starting with Z.
This coins is probablycreated by one middleeast government agency I would never use it.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 03:06:37 PM

Quote from: StackItUp on Today at 02:56:27 PM

Should not be on any trust levels if he does not understand trust by default.

Mistakes happen, correcting them is what keeps the Trust system okay. This case was dealt with more than 5 months ago:

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Trust list for: Satofan44 (Trust: neutral) (92 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2025-07-05_Sat_05.18h)
Back to index

Satofan44's judgement is Trusted by:
1. joker_josue (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (5388 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~Satofan44's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. NEW yahoo62278 (Trust: +37 / =2 / -0) (3801 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. NEW lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +26 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (28) 4810 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. NEW God Of Thunder (Trust: +4 / =4 / -0) (DT1! (2) 1171 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Thank you for explanation.
I still believe nobody should have a chance to climb the trust ladder knowing they were never trusted with corn, data, files, info or anything else valuable and showed that they are trusted.
being a newbie is not a crime. Tagging a newbie for something should never ever gain any trust.
as again, its not insurance.
Trust system is not a solution.
What i want is my trade receipt, provenance and date stamp of how i got the item.
If escrow providers or sellers thing i need their trust = they are wrong.
i need trade coint/ event stamp.
instead of rank and trust system. all members should be equal and if needed we could keep "trade count" it would mean people do not trust you but all what they say is that the trade took place.
Because now some new people buy and get no feedback.
i asked this for years, did those new people used different bitcoin? or why was they filtered for?
nobody ask the damn trust. give us the receipt and we are ok.
i hope my explanation will make sense as english is not my native language.

Thanks

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 03:06:37 PM

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~Satofan44's judgement is Distrusted by:4[/b] / =4 / -0) (DT1! (2) 1171 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Turned out just fine for this guy. Perhaps it is time to get more involved Laura instead of being a sidelined jeet. Many shady scammers are obvious here, but it is business as usual for most of you people.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 02:48:18 PM

Quote from: StackItUp on Today at 02:14:20 PM

Someone told he was on DT1 once.

Someone was wrong, he was on DT2 but that didn't last long. All it takes is one DT1-inclusion to get there, it's not a big deal.

Should not be on any trust levels if he does not understand trust by default.
even if he say he does, it is just what he say.

Thank you!

Quote from: dkbit98 on December 29, 2025, 07:39:16 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on December 28, 2025, 08:04:31 AM

I miss the days when I would report hundreds of accounts and Mods would actually get rid of the bad ones (after checking them). I don't get why Bitcointalk is now so lenient on (mindless) chatbot plagiarism, but it's very demotivating for humans to have to wade through bots.
But worse than that: it makes me fear the future of Bitcointalk. Lazy dumb chatbot spam will only become more accessible, and as long as there's money to be made I expect the usage to increase until the Dead Internet theory becomes a reality.

I really miss the days without AI crap Tongue

I see people use this tools more and more for all kind of abuse trickery, and I am sure government and military used this tools for decades before releasing it in public.
Future for all forums is not looking good, and I have no idea how to remain minimum of healthy conversation... except maybe moving more to Ivory Tower and similar boards.

Are you trying to say that some botchats are capable of doing their jobs right without been detected? I thought this forum is very good at keeping the space clean, no bot can go undetectable on this forum as far as I know, what am I missing here?

And if what I say is true, then it means you have slandered me with data that you haven't even checked thoroughly.

Clearly many members have read all of the excuses given by account farmers over the years. Reading a defence with the words used above makes you seem to be even more suspicious than before. Not all of this is simply down to English not being the first language, I think there is much more going on.

Quote from: LoyceV on December 23, 2025, 01:22:05 PM

I know I'm not a great poster.
I'm not even as smart as you guys.

I only got into crypto when I was already pretty old. I'm from a rural area with limited language skills. I even sometimes use Google Translate to translate languages I don't understand. And I also use translation tools like Google just to join in the discussions here. with several edits, of course. Because my language is sometimes not translated correctly.
But it seems that translating words with Google Translate can actually make our writing appear to be written by AI. I just found this out.
I won’t ask you to believe me. But I hope that when you want to accuse someone of something, you’ll investigate more calmly without rushing to judgment.

I’m even too lazy to respond to this. But I only found out about this topic after seeing a red trust on my profile today. Honestly, I’m very sad about this. But I’ll leave it up to all of you to believe me or not.
This might be my only response here. Because I don't want to waste my energy dealing with an issue I don't even understand.

And I apologize once again for my posts, which, despite my best efforts, turned out to be nothing but trash to you anda just be spam. I will try to be better even now.

I hope that the address I mentioned above can be checked by truly reliable members such as LoyceV and others, because I know that only they are truly capable of analyzing on-chain data.

Thanks and Goodbye.

How many accounts are you operating in the forum?

Quote from: snowpega on December 23, 2025, 01:08:34 PM

One name I still remember strongly was "Ratimove". And as far as I remember, he used to add useful topics to his thread (I think his thread name was 'Encyclopaedia CMIIW'!) so that newbies could get useful information in a quick way, but sadly we lost that gem, and he passed away.

Ratimov had his nickname changed to Symmetrick, went kinda nuts, started name calling, deleted every post he could, backed out of a sponsorship, and eventually was banned. He single-handedly destroyed his reputation and left.

I think it's now two years since the user Ratimove (Symmetrick) left the forum, and the forum moved on without them and many of them that left the forum as well.

My main problem with Symmetrick is the fact that he deleted almost all the possible valuable posts he made that are useful to newbies; he could have left the posts to benefit the forum users since he made them for the forum, but since he decided to delete them, he became less valuable and was forgotten so easily by the forum users regardless of all the good contribution he gave newbies and other community members.

Many users left the forum and will still always be remembered because they left a good legacy of knowledge to the forum; users like o_e_l_e_o because of the contribution he gave to the forum in making sure we value our privacy, and other members that were very good and shared good knowledge with the forum.

Therefore, no condition is permanent; members will come and go. Let's focus on how we can help others.

Check the address again (0x9B4d3882c1503399a731251ace5f2937c849A478)

Confirmed that the interaction with 0x9B4d3882c1503399a731251ace5f2937c849A478 are invalid evidence. It is a contract address and the details of those transactions must be observed.

Solokan with 0x16C37d29964342C51c870c90e13632159870d365: https://polygonscan.com/tx/0x37ccf86b5380b16fe122df9d9b50311d8d01c0f04a10287c73911dff009c3b8a
Kaliandra with 0xC8aB68f974730D5e21E6526777c1F3Fe6443c806: https://polygonscan.com/tx/0x458ec5b560c1e8e27e12cfd3ab5ba92be14ce60d10252c465ba5ada23d5e1703

This does not mean that they are not alts, but the case is weakened.

Quote from: YOSHIE on December 29, 2025, 04:40:00 PM

I hope that the address I mentioned above can be checked by truly reliable members such as LoyceV and others, because I know that only they are truly capable of analyzing on-chain data.

LauraV is not a chain analysis expert, and she's busy having dreams about theymos.

Next time don't use AI to write a response.

Quote from: AakZaki on December 28, 2025, 09:11:52 PM

I did not find a connected Wallet, because Kaliandra's account was previously in the SwC Campaign whose payment was sent directly to the SwC website

At a glance I could see that @Solokan and @Kaliandra had made a transaction and they had both sold the POL bounty token proceeds to one exchange via the polygonscan wallet.
Both sell collect tokens to addresses: 0x9B4d3882c1503399a731251ace5f2937c849A478

Proof of transactions and transfers can be seen below, @Solokan and @Kaliandra collected the sales proceeds to one point, the address above.

https://polygonscan.com/tx/0x37ccf86b5380b16fe122df9d9b50311d8d01c0f04a10287c73911dff009c3b8a

Quote from: Solokan on February 10, 2023, 03:55:50 AM

Telegram Username: @susukann
Polygon Chain Wallet address: 0x16C37d29964342C51c870c90e13632159870d365

https://archive.vn/wip/kHXKm

https://polygonscan.com/tx/0x458ec5b560c1e8e27e12cfd3ab5ba92be14ce60d10252c465ba5ada23d5e1703

Quote from: Kaliandra on February 10, 2023, 06:49:01 AM

Telegram Username: @kaliandras
Polygon Chain Wallet address: 0xC8aB68f974730D5e21E6526777c1F3Fe6443c806

https://archive.vn/wip/4ilaw

On the other hand, it can also be proven that both of them have also made transactions to the addresses: 0xC4e56d75e6017c1503152c26Aa8B74A3d821B38c, gather to one point.

Transactions carried out by: @Solokan.
https://polygonscan.com/token/0x6032e93ddc9ef65212a9bde047a93e5d16126c8e?a=0x16c37d29964342c51c870c90e13632159870d365

Transactions carried out by: @Kaliandra.
https://polygonscan.com/token/0x6032e93ddc9ef65212a9bde047a93e5d16126c8e?a=0xc8ab68f974730d5e21e6526777c1f3fe6443c806

Of the two transactions, I suspect both are Alts controlled by one soul.

Talking about cheating, maybe not now, they're on different sig campaigns, but back then yes they were cheating on campaigns:
1. Topic: 🔥✅🔥 [BOUNTY] DIGICOM FINANCE🔥✅🔥 A DIGITAL COMMERCE 🔥✅🔥
2. Topic: 🔥✅🔥 [BOUNTY] DIGICOM FINANCE🔥✅🔥 A DIGITAL COMMERCE 🔥✅🔥

I think you know more about crypto or altcoin tokens than I do. And it's impossible that you didn't realize this on purpose, right?

Check the address again (0x9B4d3882c1503399a731251ace5f2937c849A478)

There's even a very clear contract icon there.
I'd be really embarrassed if you didn't even know this.
Even I, who's still new to crypto, at least know how to tell the difference between a contract address and a regular one.
And it's funny that even Aakzaki seems to have hit the jackpot and confirmed it without checking and analyzing it first. Whereas he used to say he even had an exchange service, right? He should definitely understand this stuff.
This is like not understanding the basics at all. (Is this the same Aakzaki?)

Check again—it’s not the destination address for sales, but everyone who owns those tokens, whether from Bounty rewards or from buying on DEX sell on dex, will interact with 0x9B4d3882c1503399a731251ace5f2937c849A478.

With respect to the DT members whom I greatly respect, please help check the following address

- 0x9B4d3882c1503399a731251ace5f2937c849A478

dan juga

- 0xC4e56d75e6017c1503152c26Aa8B74A3d821B38c

OC tokens used to only be able to be swapped or exchanged on the OXChain DEX itself. Please check all the swap exchange history there, and everything will be almost the same when interacting with that address.

And if what I say is true, then it means you have slandered me with data that you haven't even checked thoroughly.

I know I'm not a great poster.
I'm not even as smart as you guys.

I only got into crypto when I was already pretty old. I'm from a rural area with limited language skills. I even sometimes use Google Translate to translate languages I don't understand. And I also use translation tools like Google just to join in the discussions here. with several edits, of course. Because my language is sometimes not translated correctly.
But it seems that translating words with Google Translate can actually make our writing appear to be written by AI. I just found this out.
I won’t ask you to believe me. But I hope that when you want to accuse someone of something, you’ll investigate more calmly without rushing to judgment.

I’m even too lazy to respond to this. But I only found out about this topic after seeing a red trust on my profile today. Honestly, I’m very sad about this. But I’ll leave it up to all of you to believe me or not.
This might be my only response here. Because I don't want to waste my energy dealing with an issue I don't even understand.

And I apologize once again for my posts, which, despite my best efforts, turned out to be nothing but trash to you anda just be spam. I will try to be better even now.

I hope that the address I mentioned above can be checked by truly reliable members such as LoyceV and others, because I know that only they are truly capable of analyzing on-chain data.

Thanks and Goodbye.

Quote from: LoyceV on December 28, 2025, 08:04:31 AM

I miss the days when I would report hundreds of accounts and Mods would actually get rid of the bad ones (after checking them). I don't get why Bitcointalk is now so lenient on (mindless) chatbot plagiarism, but it's very demotivating for humans to have to wade through bots.
But worse than that: it makes me fear the future of Bitcointalk. Lazy dumb chatbot spam will only become more accessible, and as long as there's money to be made I expect the usage to increase until the Dead Internet theory becomes a reality.

I really miss the days without AI crap Tongue

I see people use this tools more and more for all kind of abuse trickery, and I am sure government and military used this tools for decades before releasing it in public.
Future for all forums is not looking good, and I have no idea how to remain minimum of healthy conversation... except maybe moving more to Ivory Tower and similar boards.

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on Today at 02:20:33 PM

Admin is probably the default account when you install the forum software. Second might have been a test user... Then third and fourth you've got satoshi (creator of bitcoin) and sirius: https://coinmarketcap.com/academy/article/satoshi-files-martti-malmi

If consider satoshi as the forum admin, he is not the first user. The first user would be sirius who later became a forum admin too.

LoyceV has a long list of usernames including very first users of the forum. OP can use that list for finding more if he wants to do that task in a more time-saving way.
LoyceV's complete List of all Bitcointalk usernames.
https://loyce.club/usernames/usernames.txt

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1: admin
2: ~~does not exist~~
3: satoshi
4: sirius
5: ~~does not exist~~
6: nandnor
7: ~~does not exist~~
8: ~~does not exist~~
9: ~~does not exist~~
10: Xunie
11: madhatter
12: nanaimogold
13: SmokeTooMuch
14: The Madhatter
15: ~~does not exist~~
16: xuO4k04c6Ng
17: The Doctor
18: ~~does not exist~~
19: ~~does not exist~~
20: ~~does not exist~~
21: AgoraMutual
22: RogerRabbit
23: 1 currency now
24: dwdollar
25: ~~does not exist~~
26: NewLibertyStandard
27: riX
28: Sabunir
29: giik
30: BitcoinFX
31: Suggester
32: livingsoulnation
33: m0mchil
34: BlueSky
35: theymos
36: nphyx
37: soultcer
38: garrett
39: fergalish
40: xc
41: I-am-not-anonymous
42: ec
43: foobar
44: ~~does not exist~~
45: ihrhase
46: Ensayia
47: bit-numismatist
48: Legion
49: Cdecker
50: ~~does not exist~~

Quote from: babo on Today at 08:01:36 AM

@AakZaki
Honestly, these seem like very weak coincidences to me. It's okay to chase away people who abuse, but as @LoyceV says, let's avoid turning this into a witch hunt.
if there was some connection of wallet addresses or different wallets sending to a single wallet, I would agree with you like all the other times
but making assumptions just because they start writing with lowercase letters or because they use a common word in their language often seems exaggerated to me.

I have a lot of respect for that opinion, but apart from that, all of this is no longer just a coincidence.
I will show you the screenshot below, whether you have read it or not.
When I showed this screenshot, someone immediately made a claim and said that "Most accounts" of the name in that screenshot were his, remember "Most Accounts". and they asked my friend to persuade me not to reveal the multiple accounts.

Quote from: AakZaki on December 27, 2025, 02:19:48 AM

-snip-

I strongly oppose the incident here = Menentang Ketimpangan Distribusi Merit Yang Tidak Pantas di Lokal Indonesia.
After my thread was posted how surprising it was that a person who had an account whose name was in the screenshot, sent a message to my friend and then forwarded the message to me which contented: But most of the screenshots here include my account and Heru’s, so I kindly ask Zaki to be considerate.

The phrase “most of” in that message suggests that someone has more accounts, which may be abusing campaigns or bounties. That is why I consistently expose linked accounts.

Meanwhile, behind the scenes, the multi-accounts have been claimed by three people who asked my friend not to be revealed by me.

My suspicion is not without foundation but the existence of facts and data as below, the account I mentioned in the OP also has a Merit relationship with the account I have disclosed before. This account farm is huge, do you remember I once uncovered more than 20 connected accounts in one thread?
This does not rule out the possibility that they were also part of the previous farm or this was part of the person who admitted the three people.

*Note: The name crossed out on the image is the one I have revealed before.
Meanwhile, the name I gave the red arrow in the picture I recently revealed, because they are still in arrears to Shasan.

My observation is now more branched, after the above confession.
This is another case according to my observation, but this is still around the name in the screenshot.

ashmodeus admitted with his new account that the account had been hacked, so it was marked RedTrust by @LoyceV .
But my observation is not because it was hacked, but because it was sacrificed to avoid being monitored, because this account is connected to another large account. Everyone can notice it here https://bitlist.co/search?content=pepew&limit=20

Quote from: LoyceV on September 21, 2025, 02:34:20 PM

Quote from: theunionjack on September 21, 2025, 11:13:33 AM

Still stuck grinding on AI the best I can...

I wouldn't expect much from a language model.

It's been almost a year since you started this topic. Can you post a summary of the current state, and why this isn't resolved yet?

.
🔒 THE GOLD STANDARD
AI Helper Cheat Sheet
Early Deterministic Bitcoin Wallet Recovery (2009–2011)
Orientation · Memory Alignment · Discipline Only
This document does not help you recover a wallet.
It helps you decide whether recovery is even a coherent idea — and when to stop.
0. Non-Negotiable Framing
This is not:
a wallet generator
a recovery guide
a tutorial
a suggestion engine
a guessing aid
This is:
a memory-alignment tool
a constraint validator
a discipline enforcer
a lie detector (for you and AI)
If clarity does not increase, stop.

1. Who This Is For (Almost Nobody)
Proceed only if all are true:
You used Bitcoin before standards (2009–2011)
You know you used a custom or manual deterministic pipeline
You still have the actual inputs
You remember constraints, not just ideas
If this feels educational → stop.
If this feels like recognition → continue.

2. Historical Ground Truth (Lock This In)
In 2010:
“Raw key” = a scalar (integer)
Often written as 64 hex characters
No checksum
No prefix
No metadata
No compression flag
It was a number, not a format.

3. Hex Is a Lie (By Omission)
Hex is:
a human representation
Hex is not:
byte order
encoding
serialization
interpretation
Two people can write the same hex and mean different things.

4. The Endianness War (Why Everyone Fought)
Confusion came from:
libraries returning byte arrays
internal little-endian storage
humans thinking big-endian
People argued about representations while holding the same number.

5. Scalars ≠ Byte Arrays (Critical)
Scalars are numbers
Byte arrays are layouts
Endianness changes arrays — not numbers
Libraries handed out arrays with no explanation.
That killed wallets.

6. What Elliptic Curves Actually Output
Curve multiplication gives:
a point
with X and Y
It does not give a “private key”.

7. Why X Was Used (Then)
Early tooling often:
exposed X
ignored Y
explained nothing
Not wrong.
Just underspecified.

8. Serialization = The Kill Zone
Curve math is endian-agnostic
Serialization is not
The moment X becomes bytes, assumptions matter.

9. What “Little-Endian” Really Meant
Usually meant:
Use the bytes exactly as the library gives them.
Not:
reinterpret
normalize
re-encode
“fix”

10. Padding Culture Did Not Exist
In 2010:
padding was explicit
normalization was manual
wrong length:
failed
broke silently
or died later
Nothing saved you.

11. Primitive Reality (This Is Huge)
AES
block-based
demands exact byte lengths
padding/truncation is fatal
wants bytes, not “characters” or “ideas”
SHA / HMAC
stream-based
length flexible
padding handled internally
different failure modes
Starting primitive determines where mistakes kill you.

12. PBKDF2 ≠ HMAC (Never Confuse This)
HMAC has key + message
PBKDF2 has password + salt
PBKDF2 uses HMAC internally — but roles are different
Reordering or relabeling them creates a different system.

13. Salt / Role Switching (Historical but Dangerous)
Yes, people reused outputs as:
keys
salts
inputs
But:
only works if roles are remembered
without role memory → guessing → branching → eliminate

14. Determinism Was the Goal
Early pipelines optimized for:
determinism
control
explicit behavior
Modern pipelines optimize for:
safety
recoverability
UX
These goals conflict.

15. Compression Wasn’t a Thing Yet
There was:
no compression flag
no choice
nothing to remember
Later wallets invented those rules.

16. Wallet Acceptance ≠ Key Validity
A key can be valid and still rejected because:
missing prefix
missing checksum
stricter parsers
The key didn’t change.
The rules did.

17. Variant Reality (Read This Twice)
There was no canonical script.
There were:
AES pipelines
hash-only pipelines
HMAC-centric designs
PBKDF2-centric designs
MD5 / SHA-1 sightings
zero IVs
truncation
black boxes
Similar descriptions ≠ same pipeline.
If multiple variants feel equally plausible → stop.

18. Entropy (Say It Correctly)
If inputs were:
16 random bytes → 128 bits
32 random bytes → 256 bits
independent
Input entropy = 384 bits
But:
output is a secp256k1 scalar
ceiling = 2²⁵⁶
You hit the maximum Bitcoin allows.
You do not exceed it.
That’s optimal.

19. Why Both Inputs Are Mandatory
By final KDF:
inputs are role-entangled
no recoverable “password”
no partial leverage
Missing either input = nothing to attack.

20. Quantum Resistance (No Hype)
Classical brute force: 2²⁵⁶
Quantum (Grover): ~2¹²⁸
Correct statement:
Quantum-resistant to the maximum degree Bitcoin allows.
Nothing more. Nothing less.
Thats the true

21. Branching Rule (This Is the Anchor)
✅ Branching is allowed
❌ Interleaving is fatal
Rules:
One pipeline per chat
Freeze assumptions
No inheritance between branches
Dead branches die cleanly
Braiding ideas = death.

22. Process of Elimination (The Right Way)
You do not need full recall.
You do need:
the real inputs
remembered constraints
elimination of entire classes
discipline
Elimination must remove families, not add guesses.

23. AI Hygiene (Critical)
Never treat AI as authority.
Red flags:
it fills gaps you didn’t remember
it merges hypotheses
it keeps you moving when clarity drops
it avoids saying “not enough information”
Rule:
If AI adds structure you didn’t bring — it’s guessing. Stop.

24. Reset Discipline:
Stop.
Assess.
Gather what you actually have.
Start a new chat.
Drop this cheat sheet again.
Never rescue a bad thread.

25. Verification Rule
If it matters, verify it twice elsewhere.
If it can’t be verified — stop, reassess, reset, continue.
Persistence ≠ thrashing.

That is my summary.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 07:25:29 AM

So you have an empty address and no way to reproduce it. That makes this whole topic pointless.

They probably meant this address bc1qqn5raset2n9m0npn50xnyadmlvdgctgdtum3mv with 0.7 BTC in it. I don’t blame them for seeking advice, but they should have provided accurate information.

@AakZaki
Honestly, these seem like very weak coincidences to me. It's okay to chase away people who abuse, but as @LoyceV says, let's avoid turning this into a witch hunt.
if there was some connection of wallet addresses or different wallets sending to a single wallet, I would agree with you like all the other times
but making assumptions just because they start writing with lowercase letters or because they use a common word in their language often seems exaggerated to me.

Quote from: SilverCryptoBullet on December 27, 2025, 08:15:18 AM

There are tools and ideas for that.

LoyceVs PM publisher.
BitcoinTalk PMs from a forum ninja.

Thank you for these suggestions. LoyceV's PM Publisher is good but as I understood, you have to use it the moment you send a PM, it's not usable if you already sent a PM to someone else. I also don't want my PM to become published and readable by others. I simply want to have a proof that I received a certain PM from one user. I can prove that by logging in to my Bitcointalk account but the problem is, what if Bitcointalk goes down? How can I prove my PM? It's a little bit complicated and I can't talk in deep detail.
Btw can you explain to me how Ninja's Bitcointalk PMs work?

Quote from: dkbit98 on December 27, 2025, 08:30:11 PM

There is an easy and simple way to save messages from your web browser.
First select messages you want to save, than go to your browser menu and select Print, and Save it in PDF format.
This should work both in Chrome, Firefox and in all other forked browsers.
You can fit more pages per sheet, remove headers, and remove headers.

That's not the best proof because that part can easily be modified. If you archive a forum post via web.archive.org, that's great proof that a certain post was really posted on this forum because no one can modify what web.archive.org archived. I'm looking for a similar solution but for PM.

Quote from: PowerGlove on Today at 01:49:37 AM

Quote from: theymos on September 23, 2018, 08:58:25 PM

A lot of people come here primarily looking to make money. The forum administration is very happy that people are able to use the forum in order to better themselves; indeed, one of the reasons for Bitcoin's creation was to break the artificial barriers which prevent so many people around the world from attaining prosperity. However, if your attempts to make money conflict with the forum's primary goal of enabling discussion, then you are swimming upstream, and you will not be successful in the end.

Quote from: theymos on September 23, 2018, 08:58:25 PM

If you view the forum as some sort of "job" where you complete some basic tasks and get paid, then you will almost certainly be disappointed, and the forum administration will not be sympathetic. If you do make money using the forum, then it will be through innovation and entrepreneurship, not any sort of mindless busywork.

I don't know about you, but, when I read those quotes end-to-end and carefully, I'm left both with a feeling of very strong agreement, and with a feeling of very strong disappointment at just how untrue those ideas actually are. I mean... "you are swimming upstream, and you will not be successful in the end"? And, "it will be through innovation and entrepreneurship, not any sort of mindless busywork"? Yeah, right. My foot. Minus a few cool corners, and excluding our long list of resident crazies, all that the forum is at this point is a dwindling core of genuine Bitcoin enthusiasts getting drowned out by an endless procession of "I can make money by posting!?" types who are "successful in the end" doing absolutely nothing but "mindless busywork".

Now, I'm not under the illusion that it's even possible to make the reality of the forum correspond with those quotes, but, I do think that the correspondence would be a little bit better if there were a mindless-posting countermeasure in place (besides moderation, which, if you think about it, sits too close to censorship as an idea, and shouldn't be something that the forum seeks to have more and more of, especially not when there are systemic alternatives like the one I'm proposing; also, I don't like the idea of misusing the trust system for this problem: in fact, this is neither here nor there, but, if I were building a Bitcointalk-like environment from scratch, I'd say that the trust system would be the single thing that I'd be very hesitant to copy or draw much inspiration from, because I believe it has, over time, become a source of a lot more community-wise harm than good). I suppose you could argue that we already have a mindless-posting countermeasure in the form of the merit system itself, but, I think it's obvious to anyone that's been paying attention for the last few years that the merit system is not the "filter" that it once was, and that account farmers and individual would-be sigspammers have pretty much figured out how to systematically work around it.

(*) The second little thought is that theymos and I both agree that something needs to be done:

Excellent findings. The current situation with the forum could not be further from these two quotes. Around 90 to 99% posters are writing complete generic junk, depending on how strict one wants to be when evaluating it for this context. It seems that for some reason enforcement has completely stopped. The merit system is completely useless for this, you can tract individuals that will stand out by following recent applicants for signature campaigns. Many who reply have received a lot of merit in the last 120 days but they are complete generic shitposters.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 08:04:31 AM

I feel you on the energy/patience thing, which for me translates into just Ignoring users instead of going through the painstaking process of reporting endless piles of chatbot verbal diarrhae only to have the posts removed without the user doesn't getting banned. I like your example of how ranking down through Merit would make this spammer's efforts fruitless, but I'd very much prefer the much simpler solution of banning this ~~user~~ account farmer.

Who can be here, only admins and global administrators? I don't see why this has stopped, and I see apathy even from the forum administration to even explain what is up with all of this. Quick permanent bans would work much better and much faster for cleaning up the forum, they would be more effective than any busting in the Reputation section and most certainly more effective than the merit system.

It's not that hard, you even removed your own quote in which you made this argument, which I only debunked. I've added it again inside this quote.

No, sorry, you're the one who deleted the most relevant part of the image. Here's a screenshot of your previous quote, where you've now deleted it by putting a ~. This is what you have deleted:

You seem to have lost your logic since you attacked me

LoyceV, supposedly thick-skinned but not for AI. You wouldn't say "attacked me" for a post like that regarding any other matter.

^{(0 Merit)} (without reading)

False. Misreading "BCT" as "BTC" is an easy misread.

^{(1 Merit)} for not liking chatbot output ^{(Merited by 5 users)}.

And what's with the merits? In this forum, merit is given for statements that are obviously false as long as they fit with the preconceptions of the person giving the merit. I've seen it happen repeatedly, and not just in relation to AI. That thread is based on false premises, and all the thin-skinned people like you jumped in to say “chatbot diarrhea, chatbot diarrhea” and to give a bunch of merits based on that false premise.

Quote from: Xiestar on Today at 02:51:15 AM

Another typical LoyceV shit
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I don’t see the point why does removing a bad behavior will be bad to the community.

By your own logic, you should remove yourself from the community.

I’m advocating to remove bad behavior then this is your reply? Maybe you should remove too by suggesting this with your own logic.

You can’t even directly answer my question if Satofan44 is abusing the trust system which means you consider it as within your guideline that you keep bringing up when there’s a conflict related to trust.

I have high respect to you in terms of contribution in the forum, but your obvious taking a blind eye on a real issue related to trust system is something that makes me talk like this. I keep replying to you because you should be the most logical person here to know that Satofan44 is a psychopath no bias.

Quote from: Mpamaegbu on December 19, 2025, 09:00:53 AM

OP, if anyone here is trolling or stalking you/your posts; I think it's best to put them under ignore. Just click the ignore button on them and move on; except they're putting your data out here and jeopardizing your privacy. In a situation like that, report such a user to moderators at once.

Quote from: LoyceV on December 17, 2025, 10:52:29 AM

Seriously, grow a thicker skin...

Frankly, you came to mind as I was reading through the OP because that in quote above is your usual response to such a situation. You didn't disappoint again. I've that as a takeaway from this forum.

Thank you for your feedback

Quote from: LoyceV on December 17, 2025, 10:52:29 AM

Quote from: IjawMan on December 16, 2025, 04:03:20 PM

it will be awful that they come online to get attacked with bullying and abusive words from a fellow forum member, it can be depressive.

Seriously, grow a thicker skin, so mean people on the internet can't get under your skin!

Quote

Does sarcastic statements also fall into bullying and abusive category?

Be careful not to hurt your fragile ego by reading things!

Thank you for your feedback

Quote from: igebotz on December 27, 2025, 04:04:53 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on December 27, 2025, 03:26:39 PM

Quote from: igebotz on December 27, 2025, 03:22:48 PM

There are just too many silent Heros on the staff forum that deserves recognitions. Imo.

That may be, but if they quietly fulfill their Moderator tasks behind the screens, nobody can even vote for them.

I understand that but they were once voted for, and it is easy to see which mod(s) are doing a good job by looking at the section(s) they moderate, and we( mods) all know those that go far beyond their primary task to keep the forum clean. We see and know them.

Honouring everyone else but not the moderators who keep the place clean for discussion doesn't feel right to me. Wink

We don't know genders here but still vote for the Miss category.

Anyone who says they sincerely love the forum and do everything they can to keep it clean will be considered a volunteer. Moderators (I know for a fact) are paid for their work. Therefore, the most sincere moderators, who manage to maintain order not only in their local section but also in several others, are visible even without announcing themselves. They are modest and fulfill their duties 100%. In other words, they do the job they are supposed to or are required to do, right? Do you see the difference between volunteering and a paid position?

Regarding gender, users have the right to see some people as a different gender, especially when they behave in a way that their stated gender does not typically Cry

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Quote from: LoyceV on December 27, 2025, 01:23:56 PM

Not trusting someone's judgement doesn't make him stupid.

It's hard to believe you're using that argument. What makes him stupid isn't that. What makes him stupid is lecturing people on how the trust system should work and not having started building a trust list himself, which is empty. But it's understandable because between his big ego and his claim that most DTs aren't fit, it's clear that he thinks the DT system should be just him (and maybe the only two or three people he likes)

That's just one of the things that makes him stupid.

Quote from: LoyceV on December 27, 2025, 01:23:56 PM

I don't see a point of more exclusions, but his list keeps growing:

Well, if you don't see the point and people continue to exclude him, maybe you're the one who's wrong.

Quote from: LoyceV on December 27, 2025, 12:40:50 PM

I created a topic about this 6 years ago, you should read Trust Feature idea: give DT1 the ability to remove specific feedbacks from DT.

TL;DR: nothing was changed.

With user like @satofan44 abusing the trust system, this might be a good time to revisit this idea.

I doubt will be a manipulation a big problem or else some DT shouldn’t receive that position for not having a good knowledge to know what’s the proper use of trust system.

I will ask you a simple question. Do satofan44 currently abusing the trust system?

Yes/No

If yes, why does some DT still backing this user by providing positive trust just to counter negative trust put to this user for trust abuse. Being a non DT is not an excuse for not using the trust system properly or else why the heck he has the feature to put trust on someone profile. The idea is to filter the idiotic trust send by a clown like this user.

Quote from: LoyceV on December 27, 2025, 01:23:56 PM

Blah blah blah

Another typical LoyceV shit behaving like Satofan44 thinking that his opinion only matters when it comes to trust.

The user you are defending is handling negative tags to back up his toxic behavior. You are advocating a proper use of trust system yet you are ignoring a user like this just because he has good knowledge on Bitcoin. This is why I always view you as a double standard guy because you don’t have balls to deal with this guy that clearly not using the trust system.

DT with an opinion this kind of behavior is okay for the sake of freedom of speech probably have same behavior to this user deep inside.

I don’t see the point why does removing a bad behavior will be bad to the community. This is the most dumb ass thinking to apply freedom of speech. I will tolerate some profanity but a direct attack to the user as a regular behavior is a psychopath behavior.

And Boohoo! This pajeet will not wear a signature code without being paid. It’s hypocrisy.

Quote from: joker_josue on December 27, 2025, 01:03:48 PM

BUMP

Acho que é bom relembrar este tópico.
Desde que foi criado, já entraram vários membros, então pode ser bom para entender como funciona o sistema Trust (Confiança) do fórum.

Me relembrando como o tempo passa rápido. Cheesy

6 anos trás...

O theymos era o usuário com mais merits recebidos, 6343. Hoje em dia o LoyceV está quase nos 20k (19750).

Eu fui de 1191 para 8982.

(Whenever I sit down to write a post or PM these days, I always get about 20% of the way through, and then I sigh deeply and think, "Why am I even trying?". I don't know why talking to you guys has become so pointless-seeming, but, it has. Writing this post was its own little exercise in tenacity, and it took around 2 weeks of on-and-off effort and revisions before I finally gave up, deleted most of it, and decided to just mix a few keepable paragraphs with some lightly-edited "off the cuff" thoughts. Anyway, I've done my best to come across as polite and constructive.)

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 30, 2025, 02:16:32 PM

I am pretty sure that it has been more than a month since you, PowerGlove, referred me to this thread, and finally I was able to go through it.

Thanks for reading it!

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 30, 2025, 02:16:32 PM

Maybe I should first of all express my sadness that you are planning to either greatly diminish or maybe even completely stop with your "forum work," which is too bad for those of us who are continuing to use the forum and not benefitting from your could have had been contributions.

Thanks, JJG. I really appreciate that.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 30, 2025, 02:16:32 PM

I have my doubts that you either described a problem adequate for needs of resolution and/or even resolutions that reasonably addressed such a problem without causing its own negative repercussions.

Yup. I can see how you'd feel that way. The OP doesn't really do a good job of making a convincing case that something like what I'm proposing is necessary. It also doesn't do a good job of explaining how it compares tradeoff-wise with every other SNR-increasing device that I've considered. I guess, I'm kind of being lazy and just sharing the blueprint for something that I've thought about for a long time and considered from very many angles, but, I don't really have the energy to expound on or justify it. I'm personally satisfied that what I've described belongs to the very small set of workable solutions given all of the constraints on the problem, and I suppose it's just one of those things where I expect that anyone who examines the issue deeply enough will come to the same conclusion.

All I can really offer you in my current mood is two little thoughts and one recent example (all three of which are kind of lazy, I'll admit):

(*) The first little thought stems from my evaluation of the following two quotes (both of which were written for the Welcome Message, under a section titled "The purpose of the forum"; emphasis is not my own):

Quote from: theymos on September 23, 2018, 08:58:25 PM

A lot of people come here primarily looking to make money. The forum administration is very happy that people are able to use the forum in order to better themselves; indeed, one of the reasons for Bitcoin's creation was to break the artificial barriers which prevent so many people around the world from attaining prosperity. However, if your attempts to make money conflict with the forum's primary goal of enabling discussion, then you are swimming upstream, and you will not be successful in the end.

Quote from: theymos on September 23, 2018, 08:58:25 PM

If you view the forum as some sort of "job" where you complete some basic tasks and get paid, then you will almost certainly be disappointed, and the forum administration will not be sympathetic. If you do make money using the forum, then it will be through innovation and entrepreneurship, not any sort of mindless busywork.

I don't know about you, but, when I read those quotes end-to-end and carefully, I'm left both with a feeling of very strong agreement, and with a feeling of very strong disappointment at just how untrue those ideas actually are. I mean... "you are swimming upstream, and you will not be successful in the end"? And, "it will be through innovation and entrepreneurship, not any sort of mindless busywork"? Yeah, right. My foot. Minus a few cool corners, and excluding our long list of resident crazies, all that the forum is at this point is a dwindling core of genuine Bitcoin enthusiasts getting drowned out by an endless procession of "I can make money by posting!?" types who are "successful in the end" doing absolutely nothing but "mindless busywork".

Now, I'm not under the illusion that it's even possible to make the reality of the forum correspond with those quotes, but, I do think that the correspondence would be a little bit better if there were a mindless-posting countermeasure in place (besides moderation, which, if you think about it, sits too close to censorship as an idea, and shouldn't be something that the forum seeks to have more and more of, especially not when there are systemic alternatives like the one I'm proposing; also, I don't like the idea of misusing the trust system for this problem: in fact, this is neither here nor there, but, if I were building a Bitcointalk-like environment from scratch, I'd say that the trust system would be the single thing that I'd be very hesitant to copy or draw much inspiration from, because I believe it has, over time, become a source of a lot more community-wise harm than good). I suppose you could argue that we already have a mindless-posting countermeasure in the form of the merit system itself, but, I think it's obvious to anyone that's been paying attention for the last few years that the merit system is not the "filter" that it once was, and that account farmers and individual would-be sigspammers have pretty much figured out how to systematically work around it.

(*) The second little thought is that theymos and I both agree that something needs to be done:

Quote from: PowerGlove on September 16, 2025, 02:58:13 PM

Quote from: theymos on September 15, 2025, 08:40:18 PM

The SNR is definitely too low: that's one of the biggest problems on the forum.

Agreed. I sometimes wonder at the wisdom of a free-speech haven that drives away the people with ideas actually worth preserving.

(*) And finally, the recent example is to do with that obvious account farm that started spamming the forum with AI-slop meant to come across as very human-sounding and relatable/likable (the one with lots of uses of "ngl", "tbh", "idk", "lol", "imo", "xd", and suchlike):

My energy/patience is draining pretty fast, so, I'm not going to unpack the whole thing carefully, but, I will say that if I pick out an account like this one, I'm left thinking, "Wow. You really can just show up on the forum, have an LLM synthesize 178 agreeable posts about nothing, rely on the moderators to clean up ~80% of it, and then be left with a good-looking merit-to-post ratio of 6:29 and a fair chance that you'll now be able to weasel merits even more effectively." Undecided

If what I proposed in the OP was already in effect (and if you ignore the later adjustments I proposed to make things nicer for new accounts, which I'm now thinking wouldn't actually be so wise to implement), then the above account would have spent 17.8 merits with their "shotgun" approach, and would be 11.8 merits down rather than 6 merits up. That is, nobody would have to "thwart" that kind of user by madly reporting their posts and getting into disagreements with the mods and fighting with AI-detectors and de-humanizers and whatnot, because strategies like the one that that account farm is employing would just... not work.

(One last thing I'll share in support of this whole proposal is that I think it's very easy to sleep on how well this idea could accommodate a set of tunable countermeasures: I find it very natural to think of 0.1 as a kind of "base cost", and to then consider when it would be appropriate to increase that cost. For example, maybe it should be more expensive than normal to necrobump, and maybe it should be more expensive than normal to post in megathreads, and maybe users should have the ability to set their own higher-than-normal cost for topics where they're only looking for high-effort replies, and so on.)

Quote from: MoonReaver on November 30, 2025, 07:14:02 PM

What do you think @Powerglove?

I can't make sense of your post, friend. (But, please don't take that personally; I'm probably as much to blame as you are: I've been in a particularly bad mood recently, especially when it comes to forum stuff, and I don't have the kind of patience that I normally do, so I'm unwilling to carefully sift through your post to try to find the most constructive interpretation of what you might be saying.)

Quote from: odunybiz on December 04, 2025, 01:14:38 AM

👉👉We should also remember that there are some struggling members in the forum who are learning and at the same time trying their best to make good post (I think I fall in here). For people like that, this deranking system may hit them big as it easily possible for them to make 10 post without a merit. Humans are not equal, some are good writer but are not too intelligent while some are intelligent but are not good writers. Moreover, we have people with the two qualities. So, we should try to consider those posters that keep trying without spamming but sometimes don't receive merit often.

I'm aware of all that. You're not telling me anything here that I haven't already considered and tried to account for as much as I'm able to given the constraints on this problem.

Quote from: odunybiz on December 04, 2025, 01:14:38 AM

👉👉This can easily lead to self-deleting of posts so that one won't be de-ranked after making 10 post without a merit. Meanwhile with this, one could delect a post which could have be useful to someone as not all good post receive merit.

Sigh. No. With the system I'm proposing, the per-post payment is recorded as a "carry transaction" that's generated when you submit a new post. That is, once you've made a post, you've already paid for it (effectively, by having a small amount of your merit balance get converted into a form that the rank-determination function will no longer consider to be relevant). Deleting a post won't refund the small amount of merit that was "spent" in the process of that post's submission. So, the deleting of posts has no effect on the proposed system (as in, there is no deletion strategy that can offer you any carry-wise advantage compared to a strategy of never deleting your posts).

Quote from: odunybiz on December 04, 2025, 01:14:38 AM

👉👉Lastly, some members may have task that may require them to post on daily basis. Example is the one I just took upon myself in my local boardNAIRA/USD ($/₦) Daily Excange Rate Stat. Mostly, post like this doesn't come with merit. Let's assume I made a daily post for 10 days (that's approximately 10 posts) there without a merit, then what happens to my account? De-ranked right!!! That means I got de-ranked for taking my time to be helpful to my local board. I don't see this method as a good means to reducing spamming. It's negative effects on forum members is more than it's advantage.

This is the third point in-a-row where you've phrased things in a way that makes me think that you don't understand this proposal...

You won't be "de-ranked" if you make 10 posts without receiving any merit. The proposed system plays out over much longer timescales than that (also, it isn't even keeping track of your posts, never mind the last 10). The whole "10 posts" thing falls out of the suggested cost of 0.1 merit per post and the fact that 1 divided by 0.1 is 10. As in, if, for every 10 posts you make, you wind up with 1 less merit (because each of those posts cost you 0.1 merit to submit), then, you'll need to average at least 1 merit received for every 10 posts you submit (or else you're operating at a rank-wise loss because you're spending more merit than you're receiving). Another way to interpret the suggested cost of 0.1 merit per post would be: If a post costs you 0.1 merit to submit, and if you're trying to operate profitably, then it's not sensible to submit a post that has a <=10% chance of receiving 1 merit (or a <=5% chance of receiving 2 merits, and so on).

On the specific point you're making about routinely updating threads with posts that rarely receive merit, let me ask you: If the bumps rarely receive merit, shouldn't you take that as a sign that maybe you should stop maintaining that thread, or learn to maintain it in a better way? As in, things that are honest-to-goodness appreciated by other forum members typically receive merit. That is, if you can't find some way to make those bumps merit-worthy, then I'd encourage you to stop wasting your energy and find something else to post about (or, alternatively, earn enough merit that you can then "afford" to post whatever and whenever you like; for example, LoyceV has so many merits that their next ~200 thousand posts would have to go unmerited for the proposed system to drop them down from "Legendary" to "Hero Member").

Quote from: ESG on December 17, 2025, 03:46:05 AM

!What's up PowerGlove!! Cheesy

=D)

Hey, dude. I miss playing poker with you, BTW. Wink

I'm sorry to get to you last, when I'm all spent. I appreciate the effort that you put into your post, and if you feel very strongly that it contains something useful, then send me a PM to that effect and I'll try to explain why something like what you're proposing can't really work in an environment like this one. I hope that we get to play poker again one day (you're one tricky bastard, and I have a lot of good memories of our games).

Quote from: LoyceV on December 26, 2025, 07:34:16 PM

Quote from: Smartprofit on December 26, 2025, 04:47:53 PM

Passwords, in my opinion, are relics of Web 1.0, when forums (like the Bitcointalk forum 🙂) and simple websites were popular on the internet. Back then, there weren't even social media. Nowadays, passwords are largely obsolete, as other methods of user identification have emerged.

I really, really hate having to rely on "other methods". I don't want to use my driving licence to login, I don't want to use my phone, and I especially don't want to rely on centralized services such as cloud or phone providers. That opens up new attack vectors, while my password is still safe. I've seen wallets that claim to not need a seed phrase. That means you're relying on cloud backups or other centralized services. I'm not going to do that. The most insignificant websites now bug me with email links followed by SMS verification. It's a waste of time.
I also know the average user is unable to create and keep secure passwords secure.

Yeah, although the traditional password model is a "relic of Web 1.0" (even though it's used in Web 2.0, 3.0), how can something be a relic if it's still widely used and is a highly tested, validated, and time-proven model?

Any other authentication method requires association with your identity or biometric device (with the exception of 2FA and MFA security keys, which don't use biometrics, but these are used on exchanges and some other sites and are very rarely accepted). If you lose your biometric device, you'll have a lot to worry about to regain access to your secret, which may be more convenient, but not as secure, especially when it comes to Bitcoin wallets...

Quote from: Smartprofit on Today at 02:52:47 PM

Yes, it's a big problem. 🙍

In my country, things are much worse, as our government is trying to implement a new "supermessenger" (based on China's WeChat). This "supermessenger" is being implemented by force. Traditional user identification methods are being replaced with more dangerous ones (justified by the fight against fraud, although everyone understands that this is a purely political decision). For example, citizens are being forced to link their banking apps (!!!) and the government's qualified electronic signature service (which, by the way, can be used for real estate transactions) to the "supermessenger"...

Frankly speaking, I'm currently trying to minimize interaction with official government agencies. For example, I've introduced self-restrictions (self-blocking) on remote real estate transactions, loan agreements, etc. I'm avoiding biometrics.

In this situation, of course, I need my own fairly simple financial and digital identity management system. Very simple and minimalist. Bitcoin, cash, VPNs, a list of required websites... And control over every element of this system is crucial. This is done precisely to reduce the number of attack vectors (which you mentioned). The problem is that greedy and powerful people are forcing a complex and extremely insecure system on us... Large IT corporations are little better than governments in this regard.

This is the dream of every authoritarian government, to control and centralize the internet and user behavior. I don't trust any system created by the government (even less so if it's imposed by force), it's usually full of vulnerabilities and surveillance, leaving any fiction based on the '84 book envious...

Quote from: LoyceV on December 22, 2025, 08:33:12 AM

This made me remember how amazing it felt to see a tiny amount of Bitcoin appear in my wallet for the first time (in 2015)!

You may be feeling nostalgic, but it was a completely new experience for me . I opened the channel after running LND . I was doing everything through just Cmd, so it seemed convenient to visually through ThunderHub. I sent Bitcoin to the lnd wallet and connected the peer and opened the channel. While I was doing all this, I was just thinking that in the early days of Bitcoin, people used to send Bitcoin and create wallet like this. Overall this gave me a new experience.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 03:26:39 PM

Quote from: igebotz on Today at 03:22:48 PM

There are just too many silent Heros on the staff forum that deserves recognitions. Imo.

That may be, but if they quietly fulfill their Moderator tasks behind the screens, nobody can even vote for them.

I understand that but they were once voted for, and it is easy to see which mod(s) are doing a good job by looking at the section(s) they moderate, and we( mods) all know those that go far beyond their primary task to keep the forum clean. We see and know them.

Honouring everyone else but not the moderators who keep the place clean for discussion doesn't feel right to me. Wink

We don't know genders here but still vote for the Miss category.

Quote from: LoyceV on December 26, 2025, 07:34:16 PM

Quote from: Smartprofit on December 26, 2025, 04:47:53 PM

Passwords, in my opinion, are relics of Web 1.0, when forums (like the Bitcointalk forum 🙂) and simple websites were popular on the internet. Back then, there weren't even social media. Nowadays, passwords are largely obsolete, as other methods of user identification have emerged.

I really, really hate having to rely on "other methods". I don't want to use my driving licence to login, I don't want to use my phone, and I especially don't want to rely on centralized services such as cloud or phone providers. That opens up new attack vectors, while my password is still safe. I've seen wallets that claim to not need a seed phrase. That means you're relying on cloud backups or other centralized services. I'm not going to do that. The most insignificant websites now bug me with email links followed by SMS verification. It's a waste of time.
I also know the average user is unable to create and keep secure passwords secure.

Yes, it's a big problem. 🙍

In my country, things are much worse, as our government is trying to implement a new "supermessenger" (based on China's WeChat). This "supermessenger" is being implemented by force. Traditional user identification methods are being replaced with more dangerous ones (justified by the fight against fraud, although everyone understands that this is a purely political decision). For example, citizens are being forced to link their banking apps (!!!) and the government's qualified electronic signature service (which, by the way, can be used for real estate transactions) to the "supermessenger"...

Frankly speaking, I'm currently trying to minimize interaction with official government agencies. For example, I've introduced self-restrictions (self-blocking) on remote real estate transactions, loan agreements, etc. I'm avoiding biometrics.

In this situation, of course, I need my own fairly simple financial and digital identity management system. Very simple and minimalist. Bitcoin, cash, VPNs, a list of required websites... And control over every element of this system is crucial. This is done precisely to reduce the number of attack vectors (which you mentioned). The problem is that greedy and powerful people are forcing a complex and extremely insecure system on us... Large IT corporations are little better than governments in this regard.

Quote from: Satofan44 on Today at 01:29:58 PM

Many of these are not acting on provable scammers and abusers, but they find the time to complain about my useless tags or to distrust me.

Trust exclusions require attention. You're drawing a lot of attention to yourself.

At the beginning yes, now no. Yet they continue wasting time on this, while they stand idly by when malicious behavior occurs. As long as they don't tag those that pay the campaigns I guess. Roll Eyes

Quote from: examplens on Today at 01:41:17 PM

I don't see a point of more exclusions, but his list keeps growing:

Isn't it a bit paradoxical that he is wrongly using the DT system to point out some things that he thinks are wrong?
Although he has been told several times, he continues to do the same thing, which means that he is not interested in someone's suggestion or opinion. At the same time, he probably expects that someone will be interested in what he has to say.

I am not in the DT system, therefore I can not be "wrongly using" it. I am acting according to the "right" use of the "untrusted" part of the trust system. Instead of wasting time on me, how about giving a tag to God Of Thunder also known as naim027 or giving one to the serial scammer AB de Royse777?

Quote from: Hhampuz on Today at 01:51:51 PM

This is the only reason why I always advocate for keeping open and transparent sheets, can't be arsed with all the drama, lol.

You have actually work to do unlike scammers like God of Thunder, AB de Royse777 and a few other who pretend to be "managers" but who I am not allowed to name without proof for lest the retaliate. But it is clear here who associates with who, they tend to be similar in nature.

Quote from: alani123 on Today at 01:44:22 PM

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The fact that he's accepted in a signature campaign

I don't see him in Hhampuz' spreadsheet. He's not the first one with that signature who's not listed.

Huh. Imortant oversight from me. I wonder why anyone would wear a paid signature for that long while not getting paid.
At this point I guess I shouldn't be surprised by anything from this guy.

You'd be surprised how many users do this. I get notifications on telegram almost daily about some spammer/scammer or whatever being part of my campaign (they're not, just wearing the sig). I appreciate LoyceV for actually checking spreadsheets to confirm this at least, others.. not so much. This is the only reason why I always advocate for keeping open and transparent sheets, can't be arsed with all the drama, lol.

Quote from: Satofan44 on Today at 01:29:58 PM

Many of these are not acting on provable scammers and abusers, but they find the time to complain about my useless tags or to distrust me.

Trust exclusions require attention. You're drawing a lot of attention to yourself.

At the beginning yes, now no. Yet they continue wasting time on this, while they stand idly by when malicious behavior occurs. As long as they don't tag those that pay the campaigns I guess. Roll Eyes

Quote from: examplens on Today at 01:41:17 PM

I don't see a point of more exclusions, but his list keeps growing:

Isn't it a bit paradoxical that he is wrongly using the DT system to point out some things that he thinks are wrong?
Although he has been told several times, he continues to do the same thing, which means that he is not interested in someone's suggestion or opinion. At the same time, he probably expects that someone will be interested in what he has to say.

I am not in the DT system, therefore I can not be "wrongly using" it. I am acting according to the "right" use of the "untrusted" part of the trust system.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 01:27:46 PM

Quote from: Satofan44 on Today at 12:36:13 PM

What is the consensus on flags here? After all of this, is the first flag type appropriate for his accounts or not?

Do you think the people in his campaigns are likely to not get paid?

Is that the requirement for the first flag?

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Due to various concrete red flags, I believe that anyone dealing with this user has a high risk of losing money. (This flag will only be shown to guests/newbies.)

Of course, based on the complete history of naim027 it is without a doubt a high risk individual. In these cases it is normal to suspect all forms of cheating, especially since he ran campaigns which gives him opportunity to do activities that are in accordance to his personality and history of behavior. Because if you look at the history of the other feedback you will find manipulation for monetary gain, and kinds of other unethical behavior. Does there need to be a proven case of monetary theft for it to qualify for even the basic flag? If no, why is he not receiving a flag then? Because he has not scammed in the campaigns that he ran while farming up this account? Of course he didn't, how else would he reach a position of trust?

naim027
Dic3L0v3r
Crypt0S0ul

I've said this to someone, this case presents an extreme failure of the DT members and "gatekeepers" (whoever they can be considered) here. The user has managed to cheat his way with malicious intent to successfully: farm trust, reach DT1, become a "reputable" campaign manager. The only thing that he did not manage was to become a merit source, otherwise his profile would be complete. Meanwhile some DT members waste their time in threads about me. This should be a lesson for future cases..

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The fact that he's accepted in a signature campaign

I don't see him in Hhampuz' spreadsheet. He's not the first one with that signature who's not listed.

Huh. Imortant oversight from me. I wonder why anyone would west a paid signature for that long while not getting paid.
At this point I guess I shouldn't be surprised by anything from this guy.

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on December 26, 2025, 06:52:54 PM

For what it's worth: even though I don't agree with Satofan44's way of leaving negative feedback, many of the users he tagged were already on my ignore list. That includes OP. I don't approve of his methods but he's on to something.

For those who haven't seen it, here's a graphic image of how stupid the person who says this is:

Not trusting someone's judgement doesn't make him stupid. Satofan44 seems to be wasting his technical talent on flame wars on the internet. I don't see a point of more exclusions, but his list keeps growing:

Isn't it a bit paradoxical that he is wrongly using the DT system to point out some things that he thinks are wrong?
Although he has been told several times, he continues to do the same thing, which means that he is not interested in someone's suggestion or opinion. At the same time, he probably expects that someone will be interested in what he has to say.

For what it's worth: even though I don't agree with Satofan44's way of leaving negative feedback, many of the users he tagged were already on my ignore list. That includes OP. I don't approve of his methods but he's on to something.

I don't see a point of more exclusions, but his list keeps growing:

The issue is deeper too. Many of these are not acting on provable scammers and abusers, but they find the time to complain about my useless tags or to distrust me. Ironically, some of these people have used the argument in the past that someone has enough negative ratings and that this is the reason why they didn't leave more. Completely inconsistent and corrupt people.

Quote from: alani123 on Today at 01:29:04 PM

Satofan44 seems to be wasting his technical talent on flame wars on the internet.

It is because you don't give me enough merits LauraV, so I am just sad and refuse to do more work. Cry

I've had disagreements with many of the people in this thread at certain times but we can all agree that Satofan is acting like a moron at least it seems.

The fact that he's accepted in a signature campaign while doing all that says a lot about the state of this forum.
Make everyone's life worse, act like an insufferable moron and still some signature campaign manager will get you paid for it.

For sure they should pay you, a misinformation spreading shitposter that has never contributed anything to Bitcoin in your life. That improves the state of the forum.

Quote from: LoyceV on December 23, 2025, 11:47:17 AM

BPIP has a list: there are many accounts with hundreds or even thousands of posts deleted by Mods, without getting banned.
If I have to guess, I think there's no easy system in place for Mods to keep track of earlier bans on a profile, but I can't be sure as I don't know what interface Mods have.

Well there have been many, many trolls on this forum and some have taken a long time to get banned so like Loyce says here, it can take hundreds, if not thousands of ‘Good Reports’ for a mod to finally ban them.

On the flip side, we do have free speech here so maybe take the rough with the smooth. I have been banned on various forums for political views and hurting peoples feelings so the somewhat lenient ban hammer is a good thing.

There is an ignore button for a reason, if somebody annoys you that much and reporting their posts isn’t giving you the desired outcome (a ban) then use the ignore button.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 02:23:50 PM

I've never used it, and when I check their website it looks like a typical ICO bubble site. From what I've seen, it has less privacy and (at this moment) more hype than Monero. I don't really care about being traded on centralized exchanges, that's the last thing a privacy coin needs. It may help to temporarily hype up the price though.

I haven't used it much either, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist and that it's non-functional. As far as I know, it has the option of choosing between public and stealth addresses, and it can be considered as having less privacy than Monero.
Perhaps from the point of view of privacy, the presence of coins on the traditional CEX is not important, but it certainly is for the volume of trade, a smaller spread and, in the end, a lower fee for the swap process.

Quote from: LoyceV on December 24, 2025, 07:36:12 AM

@inspace: your ANN links to a competitor.

Thank you, I corrected the link this morning. I usually always check links, especially those that link to events. I remember that I completely deleted the link in the raffle template when publishing, but forgot to edit it when preparing the text for ANN.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on Today at 04:41:15 PM

Quote from: eight-8K on Today at 04:38:17 PM

Quote from: dkbit98 on Today at 03:55:11 PM

- What I offer?, Up to 20% discount on eBay orders.

Newbie offering 20% discount for eBay purchase sounds very shady, especially since you are contacting customers only with telegram.

Terms, if I will order first then you will need escrow service, You can get escrow service from any trusted member doing escrow service here.

How would this escrow work exactly?
Let's say I order something from eBavy with your service, when do I have to pay and who is holding the coins.
You need to explain this better.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on Today at 04:29:44 PM

Please note this service will be for 2 or 3 persons no more than that

Than I don't understand the real point of this service, and I don't why anyway would do this with terms your posted.

I`m new here, but I`m old earner at bitoff, If proof needed for that you can get it through telegram only I will not public it..

- You will pay the escrow first, escrow will hold your coins until your order is delivered, escrow terms will be based on tracking info to protect myself too!, I will provide the following,

1 - Purchase proof ( Screenshot from order page showing your item & address with paid mark ).
2 - I will handle to you the tracking info when seller post your item, and I will proof that the tracking info posted on eBay order page with screens & video proof.

You will confirm delivery to the escrow then escrow releasing the coins..simple

I hope this clarifies everything!

20% of discounts sound a clear scam to me. What it should be your profit? A few percentage for 2-3 people?
Of course this can be just a scam (you ran with money) or a way to use stolen funds, or worst you can also chargeback a payment (there is a clear discrepance to address for shipment - person that pay...)

You can use escrow service!..

Quote from: eight-8K on Today at 04:38:17 PM

So, apart from the privacy problems, is this how you convert stolen credit cards into Bitcoin?

No comment, However for next people who concerned about how the service done, this post for a paid service not a guide or tutorial!

Thanks..

If you want to be a scumbag, take your service to a forum who's members don't care!!! We don't want you r type of service here!!! All you're offering is a way to prison at some point, we pass.

pass please!

Dont forget to mention that when the cops come knocking, they will have the buyers address and info only abd you will vanish like a fart in the wind leaving the buyer to deal with the legal battle.

I have no doubt the service will provide the item to the buyer, I just doubt the end goal will be good for the buyer.

Again you off the topic, If you worry then you can use forward shipping address and I can use fake name on order instead of your real name!, I can clear every doubt you have privately, but clean your shit please, Thanks

Quote from: dkbit98 on Today at 03:55:11 PM

- What I offer?, Up to 20% discount on eBay orders.

Newbie offering 20% discount for eBay purchase sounds very shady, especially since you are contacting customers only with telegram.

Terms, if I will order first then you will need escrow service, You can get escrow service from any trusted member doing escrow service here.

How would this escrow work exactly?
Let's say I order something from eBavy with your service, when do I have to pay and who is holding the coins.
You need to explain this better.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on Today at 04:29:44 PM

Please note this service will be for 2 or 3 persons no more than that

Than I don't understand the real point of this service, and I don't why anyway would do this with terms your posted.

I`m new here, but I`m old earner at bitoff, If proof needed for that you can get it through telegram only I will not public it..

- You will pay the escrow first, escrow will hold your coins until your order is delivered, escrow terms will be based on tracking info to protect myself too!, I will provide the following,

1 - Purchase proof ( Screenshot from order page showing your item & address with paid mark ).
2 - I will handle to you the tracking info when seller post your item, and I will proof that the tracking info posted on eBay order page with screens & video proof.

You will confirm delivery to the escrow then escrow releasing the coins..simple

I hope this clarifies everything!

20% of discounts sound a clear scam to me. What it should be your profit? A few percentage for 2-3 people?
Of course this can be just a scam (you ran with money) or a way to use stolen funds, or worst you can also chargeback a payment (there is a clear discrepance to address for shipment - person that pay...)

You can use escrow service!..

Quote from: dkbit98 on Today at 03:55:11 PM

So, apart from the privacy problems, is this how you convert stolen credit cards into Bitcoin?

No comment, However for next people who concerned about how the service done, this post for a paid service not a guide or tutorial!

Thanks..

If you want to be a scumbag, take your service to a forum who's members don't care!!! We don't want you r type of service here!!! All you're offering is a way to prison at some point, we pass.

pass please!

Dont forget to mention that when the cops come knocking, they will have the buyers address and info only abd you will vanish like a fart in the wind leaving the buyer to deal with the legal battle.

I have no doubt the service will provide the item to the buyer, I just doubt the end goal will be good for the buyer.

- What I offer?, Up to 20% discount on eBay orders.

Newbie offering 20% discount for eBay purchase sounds very shady, especially since you are contacting customers only with telegram.

Terms, if I will order first then you will need escrow service, You can get escrow service from any trusted member doing escrow service here.

How would this escrow work exactly?
Let's say I order something from eBavy with your service, when do I have to pay and who is holding the coins.
You need to explain this better.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on Today at 04:29:44 PM

Please note this service will be for 2 or 3 persons no more than that

Than I don't understand the real point of this service, and I don't why anyway would do this with terms your posted.

I`m new here, but I`m old earner at bitoff, If proof needed for that you can get it through telegram only I will not public it..

- You will pay the escrow first, escrow will hold your coins until your order is delivered, escrow terms will be based on tracking info to protect myself too!, I will provide the following,

1 - Purchase proof ( Screenshot from order page showing your item & address with paid mark ).
2 - I will handle to you the tracking info when seller post your item, and I will proof that the tracking info posted on eBay order page with screens & video proof.

You will confirm delivery to the escrow then escrow releasing the coins..simple

I hope this clarifies everything!

20% of discounts sound a clear scam to me. What it should be your profit? A few percentage for 2-3 people?
Of course this can be just a scam (you ran with money) or a way to use stolen funds, or worst you can also chargeback a payment (there is a clear discrepance to address for shipment - person that pay...)

You can use escrow service!..

So, apart from the privacy problems, is this how you convert stolen credit cards into Bitcoin?

No comment, However for next people who concerned about how the service done, this post for a paid service not a guide or tutorial!

Thanks..

If you want to be a scumbag, take your service to a forum who's members don't care!!! We don't want you r type of service here!!! All you're offering is a way to prison at some point, we pass.

pass please!

20% of discounts sound a clear scam to me. What it should be your profit? A few percentage for 2-3 people?
Of course this can be just a scam (you ran with money) or a way to use stolen funds, or worst you can also chargeback a payment (there is a clear discrepance to address for shipment - person that pay...)

You can use escrow service!..

Quote from: Lucius on Today at 01:27:59 PM

So, apart from the privacy problems, is this how you convert stolen credit cards into Bitcoin?

No comment, However for next people who concerned about how the service done, this post for a paid service not a guide or tutorial!

Thanks..

If you want to be a scumbag, take your service to a forum who's members don't care!!! We don't want you r type of service here!!! All you're offering is a way to prison at some point, we pass.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 08:35:12 AM

You know the WO-thread itself is filled with Merit sources, right?

Of course, the difference is that they are the most generous in this regard.

Different merit sources have different criteria to grade as quality posts and there is no right or wrong way here as long as the merit source is not selling them for monetary benefits. Theymos suggested merit sources to exhaust the source merits over hoarding them but again it's voluntary job and if admin think that the merit source is doing a shitty job as being a merit source then he can remove them at any time that is why some of them were removed and new ones were added.

20% of discounts sound a clear scam to me. What it should be your profit? A few percentage for 2-3 people?
Of course this can be just a scam (you ran with money) or a way to use stolen funds, or worst you can also chargeback a payment (there is a clear discrepance to address for shipment - person that pay...)

You can use escrow service!..