Where did I demand it? You're reading too much into it. It would be better for everyone if they did, there is no denying that. 

Was this a long time ago?

You found your data by just connecting your phone to USD and checking the folders and files?

That is really annoying... I would do the same in your situation and become paranoid about it. I never checked if my phone really deleted everything after factory reset.

Personally, I just use bad smartphones from samsung, so they are never worth anything. I just keep them or throw in the trash.

Yet everyday we see bunch of hacked/bought accounts being reported in the reputation board. So I wouldn't call that almost null.

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LOL, I almost forgot about the 2FA fetaure. Well in any cases, most users are safe I guess, but for old inactive high ranked abandoned accounts, there is still a scope! Won't you agree?

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New day, new things to learn! I wasn't aware of this 1 second rule! 

Didn't mean like an actual ban but stopping an user from logging in for a couple of hours or a day or two!

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I don't think we do! I believe I have never gotten such emails from btt forum.
Btw this seems like an useful feature! Again we have signed message and other ways to recover an account, but sometimes that can be a hassle for many, an early warning system is indeed helpful.

You misunderstood completely, that has nothing to do with freedom of speech. The campaign manager can require participants to post in whatever way they want. They already are. If you follow this line of arguing, requiring minimum number of posts in a specific section would also be taking away freedom of speech. 

If you are being paid in BTC by someone, it makes perfect sense that you are not being paid to FUD Bitcoin or the person paying you. Get real, and grow up.

Words can harm people.

See OG vs Vod

When it goes beyond name calling, cursing, profanity it can get dangerous and with enough motivation, it can get beyond that. Threatening of physical violence and fabrication of fake stories to harm someone’s reputation are good examples.

I am a simple man, I see an opportunity to derail a thread, I take it.
Remember where it all started, 1261.
Dig there. Maybe you didn't start the thread.

Good suggestion you have there, and I went through the link you added on the local board as well. Though I knew timelock, I've not had a reason to use it before and I have not even thought of it as a way to pass an inheritance (dead or alive). I'm sure that if well thought of, one will certainly find the one that suits their plans between the absolute and relative options.

Way easier than this.
Remember where it all started.
In fact, one of the mentioned conditions is not satisfied by that particular post.

Bitcoin is freedom, this is what was given to us as a legacy by Satoshi Nakamoto.
The day the freedom to say what one thinks ceases in the forum, in this forum, it will mean that something serious will have happened.
I don't like these Nazi tendencies and I don't like those who have these ideas.

I accept that everyone has their own ideas, I don't condemn anyone, but no one can stop me from saying that doing these operations (LoyceV rightly opposes) is a colossal bullshit
and the more we delve into the discussion the more we understand the character of the person who proposes this colossal bullshit

I think I've said it all, I don't think I'll answer again, I already understand who we're dealing with from these statements

Practically we disallowed them to conduct any business in this forum. It is not that we disallowed their freedom of speech but i think there is a connection.

If nobody decides what is truth and what is fud, why do (or did) we tag bcash/bsv fanatics? Each of those groups believe bsv or bcash is the true bitcoin and bitcoin is not bitcoin. (They call it bitcoin core)

precisely when I read these things he says, it worries me
who decides what is FUD or not, who decides what is wrong or not
Nobody has the truth in their pocket, I certainly don't and if I don't have it I don't see why he should have the truth in his pocket
These drifts are very dangerous, it's a moment to move from a free forum to a "police" forum

LoyceV is not talking about malware but how the data might still be extracted with the use of some tools.


I do not know if this is true, I have heard of police case that someone's phone has been damaged were were used to extra information. I mean information were extracted from the phone in the UFS.

What I read online was that if the phone is encrypted, that data extraction will be very difficult, maybe it was possible because the phone was not factory reset yet. 

I have heard about warnings about how Leo should be careful of their old phones, that data can be extracted from it if damaged and dumped somewhere.

Are you talking about malware/backdoor that can survive factory reset such as xHelper[1]? or about factory reset actually doesn't wipe all partition[2]?


FYI, Android require encryption since Android 10[3] which makes data recovery and decryption more difficult.

[1] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/04/solved-how-android-backdoor-called-xhelper-survives-factory-resets/
[2] https://android.stackexchange.com/a/26326
[3] https://security.stackexchange.com/a/264645

Also it is possible to apply good posts, topics in [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source topic. Not only LoyceV but also other merit sources will take a look at your posts, topics but if your posts, topics applied in that topic are low or zero quality, your account might be ignored.

Pretty much anything you say on this forum has an implied "in my opinion" attached to it, unless it's a blatantly obvious fact, in which case the distinction wouldn't matter anyway.

Your example is particularly absurd. To any sane observer "important" is a judgement, not a statement of fact.

That's their mechanism to stop DDoS attacks I guess, when there's delay in a connection to reach the actual site then that delay for most members will give enough time for website host to handle the traffic.

The bots that do the type of DDoS attacks can't fill captcha and even if they get to fill it sometime Cloudflare doesn't load such captcha and the user had to try again and again to be able to visit the site.

I know it's quite frustrating to wait to visit a forum where you want to be present all the time and also it's quite challenging to write posts and submit it sometimes because such Cloudflare makes it quite difficult.

No idea, but it protects from scratches, like any other screen protector
I know they gave away free wireless charger during Black Friday, that was more useful for sure.

No rush.
You can write a longer review with pros and cons after you used the wallet for some time.
If I remember correctly, you can write a decent product reviews.

There is a huge difference between saying that something is not important and that something is not important to you. He didn't specify the latter, he's spreading misinformation against Taproot the same way that he is spreading misinformation about the LN. He has never contributed anything to Bitcoin, so therefore this comes as no surprise.

Ok, that's enough

New patch coming through!

See? What have you done @tryninja!
This used to be a reputable thread, and has been disrupted with hairy wrists, pawns and nonsense!

Maybe my hairy paws will do then?

I saw this service few days ago, but they clearly have a bunch of coins listed and you can swap coins between them.
I would rather say that this is exchange that can be also be used as a mixers.

I would agree with this.
If we look how Europe is going with silly rules I won't be surprised to see something similar in US soon.

One thing I would suggest for creating new forum account is to make everyone read forum rules before account creation.
This would prevent new services getting banned because they don't know what is not allowed in forum.

I don't think many people think of you as that, they think of you as "LoyceV." Anyway the point remains. And I wouldn't even be mad if I found out you had a secret cabal of alt accounts that you used to game the entire forum, because you do enough good to make up for it. It would be a wash.

For instance those who might want to cash out quickly at a crypto ATM, but for this purpose I would not use wallet like Trezor. Instead, I would choose wallet in card format ^{such as my Tangem} scan the relevant QR code displayed by ATM, tap the Tangem card on the back of my smartphone, wait for confirmation, and collect the desired bills.

But agreed, this protector is the last wheel on the coach.

E vamos continuar sem mixers no fórum.

Resposta do theymos sobre o serviço e campanha que foi citado acima, confirmou que as regras do banimento não vão mudar:


Tem algo aí no meio que pode se tornar a vir ser interessante no futuro. Mas sem mais comentários...

Yep, that's a mixer. Thanks.

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By the way, after observing the Trump administration for a while, I've decided that I will not change the rules to allow:
 - Paid links to mixers.
 - Mixers operating here, such as by having official accounts or having official announcements posted.

While the Trump administration is massively better than the Biden administration regarding persecution of privacy-protecting services, this seems partly to be due to general chaos at the agencies and a deprioritization of this kind of thing, rather than a real pro-freedom ideology; you can see in e.g. the Samourai and Paxful cases that they will go after privacy-protecting services when convenient. Moreover, right now is the best environment that we're ever going to get: I think that Trump may get progressively worse on these issues as he and his subordinates get annoyed by specific cases of money laundering, and after Trump, whether Democrat or Republican, it's almost certainly going to get a lot worse than now.

I am thinking that I will change the rules to allow:
 - Unpaid linking directly to mixers in posts, as long as the mixers aren't also "illegal darknet sites" (which is a term I need to more exactly define).
 - Easing the enforcement of indirection. For example, in the past we would not allow sig ads which point to an article talking about and linking to a mixer. But it's probably OK now if this kind of thing is allowed.

I haven't decided yet on the exact language of those rule changes, though, so the existing rules stand for now.


I've said this before, and I'll reiterate: My goal is not to stop anyone from doing whatever they want. You're thinking as if I'm trying to help governments in achieving their goals, which I'm not. The rules are not designed to be effective at doing anything in the wider world. The point is to prevent bitcointalk.org from being viewed similarly to "that gas station where all the drug dealers hang out". Places like that end up under increased surveillance, and eventually the authorities usually find some excuse to shut them down.

OPEN BETA / REWARDS DISTRIBUTION

All rewards for the OPEN BETA have been successfully distributed.
Some users requested to receive their rewards privately, and we can't ignore those privacy requests.
However, we would like to ask those users to please confirm in this thread once they've received their rewards so we can keep everything transparent.

BTC Rate: $90.000
XMR Rate: $400

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1st Place
User: LoyceV
Reward in USD: $400
Reward in XMR: 1 XMR
XMR wallet address:  [ confidential ]
TX hash: [ confidential ]

2nd Place
User: Cyberczar
Reward in USD: $300
Reward amount in BTC: 0,00333333 BTC
BTC wallet address: bc1q4gx042tlnzjm2y2qg5m0038pq3y5uah7k5a3ql
TX hash: 9b6ef4587c3d3ef4ef6538d7c28e1a82df8e2ddc78c5eea1b2a68d9bfd2af0e6

3rd Place
User: tin tiger
Reward in USD: $250
Reward amount in BTC: 0,00277778 BTC
BTC wallet address: bc1qgdrs2phjfwrvmm6ur2ncqd6ku3e5sg7pvnk724
TX hash: fbde754dc17673930acf56762778e287b495f8a503841bf3a9f8a579b5359245

4th Place
User: German Sniper
Reward in USD: $200
Reward amount in BTC: 0,00222222 BTC
BTC wallet address: bc1q8rrjejfz7d97anss2x07lh68xt4qxt0q9w5utw
TX hash: aabb8a3819e78c610e37d7a6f77535564cb949668c94c62f5fb17c0456a648ba

5th Place
User: masulum
Reward in USD: $100
Reward amount in BTC: 0,00111111 BTC
BTC wallet address: bc1qpzwvre2ynerqxc6nk6ur8zspvdx54qrzwyy7f7
TX hash: d681ebc2a94a0eea729ddc30ee968fc0b88e69bef0cf49face1d8636d1158f80

6th Place
User: Bruno Solana
Reward in USD: $50
Reward amount in BTC: 0,00055556 BTC
BTC wallet address: bc1qrtphml3mg7qzyjlprxn503m762q2danrfjd8px
TX hash: b7eea7f9e0a9a51044590310ca3e1e1da0fe0088a040c1b0cab663d4f4bd8d60

7th Place
User: btcnbegun
Reward in USD: $50
Reward amount in BTC: 0,00055556 BTC
BTC wallet address: [ confidential ]
TX hash: [ confidential ]

8th Place
User: NotATether
Reward in USD: $50
Reward amount in BTC: 0,00055556 BTC
BTC wallet address: bc1qulp0k4qxdzaatrsm95msqp6gykymkn5u5dpvzv
TX hash: 0d914cddf9c5f5e3b816395f213730aab9f07e8833990d57cc1b3d862687b550

9th Place
User: mocacinno
Reward in USD: $50
Reward amount in BTC: 0,00055556 BTC
BTC wallet address: WAITING FOR BTC ADDRESS FROM USER
TX hash: PENDING

10th Place
User: Hash
Reward in USD: $50
Reward amount in BTC: 0,00055556 BTC
BTC wallet address: bc1qvggk4ejmsvwxrqvtswxt9nq0x6q2f4mguexege
TX hash: 1400f95cc51e47b756f3890ada75ccdfa8f1755e8038995d29eedd80e3e7cf34

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Thank you to everyone who tested Bridgoro, submitted reports, and helped us improve the platform.
Your contribution directly impacted the quality of the upcoming release.

OK. I see the idea.

But now another question has arisen:
To be a mixer, it's not enough to receive and send BTC, you have to break a connection from the input/output address and mix it with other funds. Sure?

This service does that?
That is, if I send BTC via this service, to 3 different addresses, does it really break the connection to the original address?

i agree... but...
if the campaign is published anyway, will you or theymos still scrutinize it and put it through its paces... please correct me if i'm wrong here
so the whole thing can be handled in the background before the start

I have watched every episode of every series and the specials probably 100 times each. For a whole year, I have been watching episodes before going to sleep, daily, uninterrupted and continuously. Then, life happened and disturbed my nearly perfect nerdiness (if that’s a word)

Cool I am gonna try Silicon Valley!

I and others like me in general.

Message is clear now.

This service did not strike me as a mixer too. However, sending coin type x to get the same coin type x is considered as a mixer according to theymos description somewhere where x = Bitcoin. When we think of a mixer we consider a single service, a service provider that take your Bitcoin and after a given time of delay it gives you your Bitcoin back after taking some fees. But in service like SplitNOW you are not only restricted to a single service. You are:
1. Using it to process a multi payment for you by staying anonymous. Yes, you can anonymize your own coins too. Depending how you are using it when it's same coin.
2. You are using it as an exchange with an option to receive multiple other currency.
3. You are using it as an aggregator
There are many other purpose can be served by SplitNOW where with a mixing service that we have in mind only serve a single purpose.

I've read his reply few times, but i still find this part lean closer to stating information rather than stating opinion. So i guess i'll just accept to agree to disagree with you and others.


You're right. But it doesn't change the fact there are user defined protocol/standard for NFT/token that doesn't use either SegWit or Taproot.


I understand what you say, although we talk about different part, "OP_RETURN utilize witness discount" and "unlimited amounts of data".

It's not needed He saw it!


Many thanks

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I was also surprised... At first I did not want to allow his translation, as I am not usually collaborating with users below Full Member rank... but I saw he needed only 5 or 10 merits for becoming Full Member and I decided to let him do it And yes, you did contribute! Many thanks again!


If you are interested, there are 2 topics from the past which do not have yet Pidgin translations... but one is very long (Husna's) and the other ne needs some research in your own language (fillippone's).

Cheers!

So just because I supported the flag like the OP asked, you’re accusing me of being a scammer–extortionist?!

You are retarded!

Yes, they were a good price during Black Friday, so I picked up two more.
The cooling shrouds have already been printed, and I'm waiting for Noctua to install the fans like the other four.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/12/10/UTfyyD.png

I don't think this is exactly a mixer. Certainly it is good to call theymos attention to it, so he can decide to be more flexible or not about this ban.

But splitting UTXO in different wallets isn't a mixer neither a coinjoin. As far as I understand this service, you won't receive other people coins, only when exchanging.

No problem, Porf
I don’t know if Gazeta informed LoyceV, but i can confirm that he saw the translation
As for translating another topic into Serbian, that will be done over the weekend. Unfortunately, i won’t be able to do it earlier even though i said i would

I just want to point out for the record that there are some non-DT users supporting your flag that go around trying to extort money from casinos by claiming they have influence over DT.

For whoever might come across this thread in the future: only Default Trust user votes can influence a flag, and the person claiming to hold any influence in DT does not. He goes by the online name "Spyds". These accounts seem to belong to him as they tend to support or oppose the same flags:

Blossom15
CreepyUncleJoe
gh0573d

Here's an example; don't get fooled:

I suspect that theymos will be ruthless with this service, although I would prefer to see customization, and Splitnow to remove the part of the service that is considered a mixer.

Although when they explain it, it is unclear to me how we got into a problem with mixers and where the narrative of "money laundering" in some crypto transactions came from.

This is going to sound like I'm coping, but it's better odds typically than normal lotteries. Although, that also means generally the prize won is lower. However, if you can afford the taxes, and you sit on Bitcoin for a few years or to the next halving....

Yeah, I'm definitely coping. Nah, the real reason I like these machines is because it scratches the DIY electronic nerd in me, while also being fairly inexpensive if you break it. There's a saying in the UK, in fact it's the Motto for the special forces; Who dares, wins.

In reality, all I'm doing is donating to the electrical companies. On the other hand; <insert gif of Jim Carrey's 'So, you're telling me there's a chance'> .

OPEN BETA TOP-10 testers

Over the past weeks, you helped us push Bridgoro harder than we ever could on our own.
You stress-tested the core mechanics, broke things we didn't expect to break, and uncovered bugs that only real users in real conditions could reveal.
Thanks to you, Bridgoro is already stronger, faster, and far more resilient than when the Beta first began.

Today, we are excited to highlight the TOP-10 most active and impactful testers.
You guys didn't just participate but went deep. You explored every corner of the platform, and you consistently sent valuable reports that made a real difference.

Congratulations to the TOP-10 testers of OPEN BETA!
1st Place - LoyceV ($400)
2nd Place - Cyberczar ($300)
3rd Place - tin tiger ($250)
4th Place - German Sniper ($200)
5th Place - masulum ($100)
6th Place - Bruno Solana ($50)
7th Place - btcnbegun ($50)
8th Place - NotATether ($50)
9th Place - mocacinno ($50)
10th Place - Hash ($50)

We would like to ask you to send us your BTC (or XMR) wallets so we can proceed with transferring your rewards.
Please send your wallet address on the same platform where you submitted your bug reports (Bitcointalk or Telegram).
All reward transactions will be published publicly for full transparency.

To everyone who joined the Beta, whether you found a bug, shared feedback, or simply tested the flow, THANK YOU!
You are part of the foundation of this project, and your contribution will stay with Bridgoro as it evolves.

This Beta reminded us why community matters. Bridgoro was inspired by eXch, but now Bridgoro itself is becoming the project that inspires us to think bigger.

The Beta is over, but our journey is just getting started.
Stay with us, the next announcements will define the future of Bridgoro.

Thank you for your efforts katanic97. And you're totally right about the misplacement of the Croatian translation in TryNinja's topic, so I deleted it.

Gazeta, as usually, will you tell LoyceV yourself about this translation?



Great job as always Husna QA. I take my hat off to all of you who have managed to finish this translation. I hope I can finish the Spanish one before the end of the year.



Done! and thank you too, Hatchy ^^

Their ANN topic has been 5 days old... No time to check there?

They are certainly tracking your IP address, browser and device your are using, but there are probably more things they are recording.
And it's not always just a few seconds, sometimes it takes more time if you need to solve their captchas.
From what I heard those captchas are just one more way of tracking and teaching AI.

He didn't invent this.
We can literally find a bunch of rap songs with death threats, killings, and all kind or crap, yet they get released all the time.
I think that social media and forums gave people a false sense of safety and ''power'' to threat anyone without any consequences.
Making threat to someone via bitcointalk forum feedback is probably one of the most inefficient way of doing it 

I guess this improvement is going to open an endless world of possibilities, possibly disrupting the forum functioning, and the orderly working of the merit system.

Perhaps "frustrated" wasn't the right word. It's just annoying and something I don't believe suits any kind of forum, whether it's about free speech or not. Not that excessive, racism slurs and insults shouldn't be part of any community, whether that's online or not.

I wasn't sure where to post this, I was between Meta and Reputation.

I was at work, and the two previous posts were written there and in a little hurry. Sorry @goldkingcoiner I was in a hurry, I quoted a few people that I value on their forum and are reputable members of this forum in general.

@LoyceV
For Chloe's feedback, as I said myself, I do believe that dealing with him is a risk judging by his behaviour, not because he has shown direct signs, such as offers to a ponzi scheme in PMs, but because he considers everyone else around him a retard, thus, it's safe to assume that he might as well believe that someone who gets scammed is one. By this definition, the negative feedback is justified, but doesn't stand on solid grounds (concrete evidence) that he's truly a trading risk. Calling him an asshole is understandable after receiving many insults, like Chloe mentioned, but you're making yourself as bad as he is, which to me is no use and I haven't resorted to such measure, because I don't want to go down that level.

The reason you can't be insulted is because you're a legendary member, and I do not mean it by rank. Your posts and your presence online has been great. There's no denying that.

@lovesmayfamilis
I respect and value your opinion, along with @LoyceV and @yahoo62278, which is why I changed my negative tag, although I believe he's a major risk when he's behaving like that, it doesn't have solid grounds to show that he's a trading risk and doesn't line up with the forum's guidelines. I never disagreed that his posts have great knowledge in them, but being an ass about it and calling everyone retarded is insulting. I didn't open this thread because I'm petty, nor offended, I couldn't care less about his opinion, but to me, it doesn't line up with how you should talk to people and how any member should be treated, newbie or legendary.

@DireWolfM14
I always respected your character, even though we haven't interacted much, but I disagree with you. I'm not making a topic to bitch about calling me an idiot etc. I don't care, but me, Chloe and other members aren't their "sole victims". He's like that to anyone who doesn't line with his views and knowledge. The point of this topic is that even though there's freedom of speech here, there should be a line of when it's too much. Your positive trust, also in the way @LoyceV has provided examples also doesn't line up with how trust works, I'm mentioning it because you said about trust abuse. My views don't have to align with yours, and that's perfectly okay.

Such tests should prioritize the functionality of the platform, possibly security. Cosmetic changes and things that do not affect the work itself, and possible swap orders, can certainly change over time, even if the service has been officially launched. I believe it will be a long time before all the shortcomings are noticed and corrected.

This is another reason why running a Beta test before launch is so important.
You are absolutely right, we should make the [Flexible Offers toggle] before release.
Thanks for the suggestion.

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Guys, I'm still reviewing all bug reports from both platforms (Bitcointalk and Telegram), and my teammate is fully occupied with internal testing of the next patch.
We hope to announce the TOP 10 list today and request wallet addresses from the winners so we can send out the rewards.

Thank you for your patience.

Aren't you retired yet or bored at times like I am? Eddy13? I have to do more research on these individuals, but from what I know so far I can neither confirm or deny any of this.  

Yes he did. Someone who facilitates exit scams regularly, even with disclaimers, and abuses trust is somehow fit according to him to be in DT. Another hypocrite and abuser, as I keep showing the examples here. There are many users that are like this in DT right now, but a lot of them are inactive so you won't necessarily see it unless they are cornered in some way but I know plenty for my short time here.

The lottery does not work because as with the merit system, the bad guys of all kinds have enough people inside to include each other. You need pro-active members from others to remove them, and with the common apathy here that requires much more effort than an abusive scheme of long-term inclusion does.

Exactly one of my points. If my rudeness can get anyone to break these rules, then they are not a fit for DT.

Honestly the more you reply the more you show reasons why you might not be good for DT.

You gave a red tag to a user for not liking his words basically. His words have nothing to do with trading and being high risk. Then you added a user to counteract others exclusions. I have seen this done in the past but it's rare that it's done.

We (everyone) is not perfect, I realize this and so should everyone else, but the trust system cannot work if people use it incorrectly. I really dislike the DT lottery and how it's supposed to be better for the forum as a whole, but so many are clueless that it's not having the intended effect IMO.

It takes the title from the moment the merit is scraped, so it will pretty much always be up to date on the notification.

Old ASICs can be bought inexpensively, but old ASICs have a pretty terrible performance, in comparison with new ASICs. The capital calculation miners need to make depends on whether they're willing to place large capital today or pay more in electricity costs over the long term. Tough business.

Also, many miners mine at a loss, because in some jurisdictions, mining bitcoin comes cheaper after taxes than buying and selling later. I think the former is not subjected to capital gains tax.

I think I explained everything already.

Trading with Satofan44 is risky due to his history of aggressive and abusive forum behavior, including frequent insults, derogatory remarks (e.g., racist comments), and retaliatory negative trust feedback for non-scam issues.

His poor interpersonal style increases the likelihood that disputes will escalate during trades.

I did, but not for the reason you mentioned. AB de Royse777 was already on the DT network, and he left many accurate pieces of feedback, while also providing some controversial ones. But just one day ago, Etranger and inspace excluded him to kick him out of the DT network, which is why I noticed that his feedback isn't showing anymore. If I am not mistaken, these two exclusions stem from personal issues, and I can sense it. I maintain good relationships with all the campaign managers and consider them friends. It doesn't matter what is between them, but using friends to kick someone out of the DT network doesn't look good. I just believe he has left some accurate feedbacks and deserve to be on the DT network frequently. 

Indubitably.


I can speculate the reason you trust my feedback is because I almost never leave these types of reviews.  There are rare occasions where I use them to offset the abuse of others.

Not sure, for a moment I find myself living inside the spartacus universe doctoréV.

No need to take it too seriously

Wasn't this reason good enough to change the username?
I barely care about what JollyGood says. He was in my ignore list for a while. I think I unignored him a few weeks ago.





Help me understand which part reads as abusive and which part is not correct.
Unlike others, I have explained why I think trading with him is high-risk.

Does that mean you do not exclude people who are not in DT?
Does that mean "People" who excluded him from their trust list did it wrong?
Should they remove his name from their trust list exclusion?


Thank you for taking a look and sharing your opinion about it. Should I expect you to take some time and check other forum members' feedback as well, and post your opinion on who belongs on DT? I would love to invite you to go through some members' feedback, including mine, and tell if they belong on DT 

He just knowingly engaged in trust abuse because I called him out as being part of a spam network. These 3rd world pajeets are really something. Yes, some managers do accept campaigns as low as $50 per week but many of you don't know that, that's why it upset him. I ask you to exclude God Of Thunder too on the same grounds.

I see double standards here.
Have you excluded Satofan44 from your trust list yet?
Did you check the other feedback left by Mia Chloe on other forum members' profiles? Do you think most of the feedback left by Mia Chloe is incorrect? Do you believe his trust list is bad? I see you instantly concluded after seeing one of his feedback on satofan44's profile. I think leaving controversial negative feedback always been accepted here and DT members barely care about one single feedback. If most feedbacks left by you are correct and one is incorrect, I don't care about that one feedback.

Are you experiencing feelings of being left out? I apologize for not insulting you .  Or more accurately, for not being able to insult you. 

I expect such senior members to know these things by now, and as such I see this as just a very bad attempt at twisting the situation to try to silence me. He has been 8 times longer than me here, he should definitely know that if I know it.

There are a few smart, cool heads that try to be objective and fair. Thanks @yahoo62278, @LoyceV, @lovesmayfamilis. Even if we don't agree on many things, bias is never warranted -- objectivity always is. Rudeness triggers the weaker minds to throw away objectivity, they get easily tricked by their own anger into false rationalizations and justifications as is seen here. That should not happen.

No it is not, otherwise all my red tags are not abuse and are spot on. I would not trade with any single misinformation spreader here or a shitposter, but that does not justify the negative tags according to senior DT members. Therefore this manipulation of the situation in order to make a false claim of a justified red tag on me does not work. You guys really need to take a look in the mirror, some of you are complete hypocrites and completely abusive of the seniority that you have here.

Life can't all be about conducting research, keep my technical section cleaner and it will be less boring. 

DT members must be held to a much higher standard than whatever is being asked from everyone else, only then can someone actually believe that many people here are not corrupt and that they are not defending all kinds of shady shit for malicious reasons. Practice what you preach -- I believe is the relevant principle here.

I agree with your decision; ultimately, we shouldn't resort to the same methods. Satofan44 also asked me whether behavior like leaving tags by DT members is fair to the trust system. Nevertheless, he should listen to others and accept the forum's rules. Otherwise, he should open his own forum and invite a select few.  Perhaps your example will encourage him to cool his ardor toward those around him. I see so many helpful posts from him; in fact, I decided not to even add him to my distrust list, removing the tilde this week. I'd like to believe that we won't become enemies but rather teach by example how to be more considerate of others, and instead of reproaches and insults, ask him to teach things that others, for obvious reasons, may not know. For me, LoyceV is simply a wonderful example of how to behave online. If it is very difficult to understand each other, you can simply pass by.

I'm surprised you are quoting me to say this. First let's start with how many times he has mentioned me in discussions that I don't need be mentioned in just to make allegations he can't prove he's been trolling me but I let it slide. If he has a problem with insults I could care less but mentioning me and accusing me on the most frowned thing in this forum is something I will not agree to slide by.

The moment you begin to take a chill from what he wrote then you'll begin to give others the benefit of doubt that you may be part of an alt farm.
To add to this I have a general question to ask everyone advocating that there be no need for a negative tag;

Would you trade with satofan44? Would you trust him for any deals or least urge someone to trust him?

That address belongs to the owner of CKPool. He charges 2% of every block reward, if your miner solves a block.

Yes, but consider that not all miners in CKPool are lottery miners. Most people who find blocks there have a lot more than just 1 TH/s. If you visit eusolostats.ckpool.org, you can see that right now, 42 PH/s are directed to that pool. (And another 167 PH/s in the American pool.) I think only three people have ever found a block with Bitaxe. One of them was the one referred in the OP: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237323.msg66076933#msg66076933.

It's not, and I don't agree with his hateful remarks. But it's his choice if he wants to be rude, and he has the freedom to do so. There's always the ignore button though.

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If we look at the intended use of the trust system, I don't think a negative tag is appropriate for this. A neutral with reference to this thread should be enough.

He didn't use paper, because as I said he wanted to encrypt the wallet. Which is not an excuse, because he could have used a BIP39 passphrase or a BIP38 encrypted paper wallet.


It's not really considered a bomb. I wouldn't do it either, but as far as security is concerned, having a passphrase in the bank isn't going to cost you a lot. Let me clarify:
- a passphrase alone can't cost you any money. Anyone having it, needs to have physical access to a seed phrase backup, otherwise, it's just a random set of words or characters.
- a bank's vault can't be opened without the physical presence of the owner. *

* It can be violated if the bank is "legally" enforced to violate it. It can also be violated during a potential robbery. And more importantly LoyceV had written a post** once, showing how easy it is to violate a vault's lock without even leaving a small trace.

** Sorry I really can't find it now...

Yes thks, at this point my flag has so many DT users supporting it (despite some here who seemed interested for 3 years but just disappearing upon learning the result, @LoyceV are you there?)

This sounds like a good plan which finally needs an execution.
Everything is in place for the inevitable to happen (soon).

You can receive a payment or bad coins without doing anything wrong, so yes it is comparable. Someone anonymous could make a payment to you with such coins, you could get them as a result of mixing and many other scenario. It should not mean that you are automatically a criminal and that your funds should be frozen.

I'm curious: isn't a moderator paid to be a moderator? If they aren't paid, there's so much money sitting in forum's cold storage that could be used to fund moderators that actually moderate.

Right. I forgot that I ran a query on my internal Elasticsearch node for the number of unique topics, and got similar to this number too.

This significantly cuts down on runtime! I still have to search for and remove any deleted topics post-2020 though (when I loaded your archive into the storage).

If it’s a guideline of an almost a decade ago them don’t the current managers go along it?

He's posting misinformation about LN and many aspects of Bitcoin all the time. There is a pattern of behavior that you'd not allow for many users, therefore tags are warranted. Actually you'd ought to leave one yourself to be consistent with your feedback practices. 

I began to dare to doubt these figures. But I forgot MindlessElectron, which fights against other spamming bots.
The percentage of topics deleted by human mods must be much lower.

Well in this case it seems like the game is already dead on arrival. RIP.

I don`t think this comparison is very precise

Just because someone snorted cocaine on a bank note doesn`t make them a criminal. And that is precisely the reason why dollar notes have traces of cocaine. Not because people are drug dealers, but because they are users of cocaine.

But if a drug dealer sends 10 thousand dollars to your bank account you might have problems.

Is it not neutral feedback that ABCbits is giving to those that are positi f on technical board with wrong information? If it is a neutral tag, there is nothing bad about it to clean the technical board from spam.


There is nothing bad in the tags if it is neutral.

This forum is for everyone that like to know about bitcoin, not for only the technical aspect of bitcoin. You can grow your account without listing in technical boards of this forum. Anyone found guilty should stop posting there and message ABCbits about it to consider removing the tag or he should post good things on the technical board to convince him.

I agree.

However, i also wonder about how many honest users received high AML coins  and have problems with deposits and withdrawal of their coins.

Maybe a large number of them just lose the money because their money is just frozen forever in CEX, casinos, etc... and the amount might not be high enough to be worth the trouble.

I am not going to give any rewards in Bitcoin or known shitcoins for two reasons:
1. Too much risk for too little reward. I can't guarantee it will ever bring enough attention to the project. I will likely just waste money.
2. I want to identify people who are for the love of the game and not quick buck. I mean, I'd been doing this for months with no guarantees. I'd expect some level of risk tolerance from the players too, otherwise it'd be not a fun forum game but a shit paid advertisement that the forum is already full of.

That's not to mention that the game I want to start is not gambling.


Ahhh, so I can't even run a fun forum game with theories, hype and vagueposting despite fun because it is prohibited to have fun. Even if I won't guarantee anything and will reward people based on vibes and not some strict formula, it's apparently still against the rules. Okay there, cool.

Yeah. I am probably a bit late to the party.

I just don't know, what else can be a reward? For a game on a crypto forum it's most logical to use some sort of tokens even if worthless, and NFTs are the most logical choice. I'd probably had more success if I figured it out years ago, but unfortunately I have not consumed the KINO back then, and even so it'd take me a while to figure out this idea and the NFT hype would end by that point anyway.

fillippone's thread is kind of dedicated to local board posts review, while you actually encourage people to submit good quality posts that are written in English. Do you expect people to submit their local board posts as well? I think it is more important to focus on your goal, which actually creates a borderline between your thread and other merit sources. I expect people to submit extraordinary posts here, which could be somewhat informative or helpful to others. If you start sending merits to the posts that were mentioned above, you will see more similar applications in your thread, and your thread will become more popular. I am sure you do not want popularity over quality.

Hello , gang 

I said i would work on some topics that were already completed  for now, i’ve done one old and useful topic [overview] Recover Bitcoin from any old storage format by LoyceV
Here is  the translation to Croatian [CRO]
I have another topic that I’m translating into Serbian, and i will finish it soon

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@Porfirii While i was looking at some translated topics and checking which ones i could translate, i noticed a small mistake. The topic by TryNinja and the one by joker_josue have the same Croatian translation. More precisely, the translation from joker_josue was placed on TryNinja’s topic

Well, when you have time, you can replace it

Autor: LoyceV
Original tema: [overview] Recover Bitcoin from any old storage format

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Pozadina
Video sam mnogo tema kao sto je: Obnavljanje cudnog starog novcanika, a odgovor je cesto veoma jednostavan ako neko prepozna format.Posto ce se broj razlicitih formata samo povecavati, i (u buducnosti) ocekujem da ce vise ljudi zaboraviti koji su format koristili za cuvanje svojih Bitcoina pre 10 ili više godina, odlucio sam da napravim pregled.
Cilj ove teme je da pruzi kompletan pregled za svakoga ko pronadje Bitcoine u bilo kom formatu skladistenja.

Rad u toku
Ova tema je rad u toku. Molim vas postavite sve formate skladistenja koji nedostaju ili dodatne podatke za identificiaranje, kako bih ih mogao dodati u prvi post (i dati vam zasluge). Nisam sam isprobao sve moguce novcanike, niti tvrdim da znam sve postojece formate. Ako pronadjete temu u kojoj se pita za format koji još nije pokriven, molim vas postavite link.

Upozorenje: preduzmite bezbednosne mere
Prvo: napravite jednu ili vise bekap kopija (hvala DaveF)! Uverite se da ne radite na jedinoj kopiji koju imate, jer rizikujete da izgubite sve.
Uverite se da znate sta radite pre nego što to uradite! Ako ste u nedoumici , nemojte.
Ignorisite ili prijavite nezeljene privatne poruke od novih ili starih korisnika. Raspravljajte o svojim potrebama javno na Bitcointalk-u, ali NEMOJTE objavljivati svoje privatne kljuceve, reci seed fraze ili fajlove novcanika. NEMOJTE verovati "pomoci" koju dobijete putem PM-a , bicete prevareni. Budite pazljivi sa slikama ekrana koje postavljate.
Ne verujte nikome svoje privatne kljuceve, osim ako niste apsolutno sigurni da biste mu poverili isti iznos u kesu.
Nekoliko sajtova pokusava da vas navede da preuzmete kompromitovan novcanik. Uverite se da koristite zvanican sajt pre preuzimanja i proverite potpis/checksum instalera (hvala ETFbitcoin).
Kada je potrebno, koristite izolovani offline kompjuter pokrenut sa Linux LIVE DVD-a (na primer Ubuntu ili Knoppix) bez internet konekcije.
Ne izlazite velike kolicine Bitcoina hot novcaniku. Pretpostavite da vam je sistem kompromitovan i ponasajte se u skladu s tim. Ne vjerujte svom Windows clipboardu , malver moze promeniti vasu Bitcoin adresu svojom, a proveravanje samo prva nekoliko karaktera nije dovoljno da to spreci.
Ako koristite papirni novcanik, trebalo bi da potrosite ceo balans odjednom. Ako potrosite samo mali deo, rizikujete da izgubite ostatak balansa zbog change adrese.

Gde poslati svoje Bitcoine
Pre nego sto pokusate da povratite svoja sredstva, trebalo bi vec da znate gde cete ih poslati nakon oporavka. Postavka bezbednog novcanika prevazilazi opseg ove teme, ali preporucujem da potrazite ovde: Izaberite svoj [Bitcoin] novcanik. Razmislite o tome da li zelite da koristite SegWit adresu ili ne.
Napravite jednu ili vise bezbednih rezervnih kopija pre nego sto u novcanik uplatite bilo kakva sredstva.

Bitcoin privatni kljucevi (ovaj deo je uglavnom zasnovan na podacima sa bitaddress.org)

• WIF (Wallet Import Format) (51 karakter base58, pocinje sa "5").
  Primer: 5KMWmYkn5YWkJnUDG4utD9L1HXQv3DBseqqCGsQXmthcEerbA7k
• WIF Kompresovani (52 karaktera base58, pocinje sa "K" ili "L").
  Primer: L41YPdADy46J9Vh77WGR2bktFwEZ6knza2Xim3Urq9CEWynkkLgn
  Napomena: i WIF i WIF Kompresovani se izvode iz istog privatnog kljuca, ali rezultuju razlicitim Bitcoin adresama.
• Privatni kljuc u heksadecimalnom formatu (64 karaktera [0-9A-F])(nije cesto) .
  Primer: CA9A061710B8BC582E1B8BB60D0F3F2751791888AB5C18737620087ABDF74A05
• Privatni kljuc (44 karaktera base64)(nije cesto)
  Primer: ypoGFxC4vFguG4u2DQ8/J1F5GIirXBhzdiAIer33SgU=
• Mini privatni kljuc (22, 26 ili 30 karaktera base58, pocinje sa "S", vidi wiki ili ovu
  poruku).
  Primer: Sf2i92UoH3kMooYXHdDQ4YQvLTdPrQ
• BIP38 lozinkom enkriptovani privatni kljuc (58 karaktera base58, pocinje sa "6P", vidi bitaddress.org, klik na Wallet Details).
  Primer: 6PRNqE9p5hTUgNy5cxXnrfVKZPX5Qz8sqB7oNfDT9N3YdCM7rqRxruxkN1
• Privatni kljuc sa nedostajucim checksum-om
  Primer: 5KMWmYkn5YWkJnUDG4utD9L1HXQv3DBseqqCGsQXmthcEerbA7k
  Poslednjih 7 karaktera privatnog kljuca su checksum. Blockchain.info backup-i su nekada izostavljali checksum. Jednostavan nacin da ga povratite jeste da importujete privatni kljuc bez checksum-a u novi novcanik na blockchain.info (danas blockchain.com), a zatim ga ponovo exportujete. Napomena: ne preporucujem izlaganje privatnog kljuca online novcaniku, ali ako je originalno kreiran na Blockchain.info, treba ga ionako smatrati kompromitovanim (izvor i detalji; informacija mozda nije potpuno tacna (hvala Coding Enthusiast)).
• Privatni kljuc za SegWit adrese
  Privatni kljuc se može koristiti za kreiranje SegWit adresa (pocinju sa "3" ili "bc1"). Mozete ih uvesti u Electrum dodavanjem "p2wpkh-p2sh:" ili "p2wpkh:" ispred privatnog kljuca (izvor i detalji).
• Nedovrseni privatni kljuc
  Ako je nekoliko karaktera privatnog kljuca izgubljeno, i dalje postoje opcije za oporavak (nedostaje 5 karaktera na poznatim lokacijama, nedostaje jedan karakter na nepoznatoj lokaciji (nisam testirao)), ali dalje objašnjenje izlazi iz okvira ove teme.
• Blockstack
  Ako imate Bitcoin u CLI Blockstack nodu, procitajte ovu temu i ovu temu.
• Coinbase multisig Vault
  Ako imate Coinbase multisig Vault, procitajte ovu temu, ovu poruku i ovu poruku.
• Cryptolator multisig fizicki coin
  Ako imate Cryptolator multisig fizicki coin, procitajte ovu poruku (i ostatak te teme).

Ako imate privatni kljuc, mozete izabrati neki od mnogih novcanika za njegov uvoz. Electrum je verovatno najlaksi. Ako je privatni kljuc u pogresnom formatu, mozete koristiti bitaddress.org (uradite ovo offline!!) da ga konvertujete u WIF ili WIF Kompresovani.

Odredjivanje novcanika na osnovu imena fajlova (napomena: ovo su podrazumevana imena fajlova, moguce je da ste svoje preimenovali)

• wallet.dat
  Koristite BitcoinCore.
  Napomena: mnogi altcoini koriste(li) isto ime fajla, u tom slucaju necete pronaci Bitcoine u svom novcaniku.
• default_wallet
  Koristite Electrum.
• bitcoin-wallet-backup-YYYY-MM-DD.
  Primer: bitcoin-wallet-backup-2015-12-31
  Koristite Bitcoin Wallet na Androidu ili uradite rucni oporavak (Uputstvo).

Seed fraze, liste reci ili memorijske fraze
Bitcoin novcanici mogu biti sačuvani kao seed fraze, obično duge između 12 i 24 reci. Koriscene reči mogu biti na vise jezika (hvala HeRetiK).

• 12 reci
  Primer: thrive jump wheel calm eyebrow order ankle raven fee narrow diamond adult
  Seed se moze prosiriti jednom ili vise dodatnih reci.
  Koristite Electrum ili iancolemanov Mnemonic Code Converter (uradite ovo van mreže!!) da biste izdvojili sve privatne kljuceve. Pogledajte ovde ako zelite da koristite Electrum seed sa iancoleman-om.
• 24 reci
  Hardverski novcanici poput Trezor-a i Ledger-a obicno koriste 24 reci.
  Primer: party describe tunnel brother explain laugh hello have short wood bird desk liar pole neck push wine tooth young mean grain join cheap aisle
  Koristite originalni hardverski novčanik ili iancolemanov Mnemonic Code Converter (radite ovo offline!!) da biste izdvojili sve privatne kljuceve.
  Cesta greska je koriscenje reci u pogresnom redosledu kada su zapisane ovako:
  1 2
  3 4
  5 6
  7 8
  A pokusavate da ih unesete kao: 1 3 5 7 … 2 4 6 8 …
• Drugi broj reci
  Ako se ne sesate kako je lista napravljena, mozete koristiti iancolemanov Mnemonic Code Converter (radite ovo offline!!) da biste izdvojili sve privatne kljuceve.
• Nedostajuca ili pogrešna rec(i)
  Probajte seedrecover.py (nisam testirao) (radite ovo offline!!) (hvala o_e_l_e_o). Azuriran link: ovde.
• Master privatni kljuc (111 karaktera, pocinje sa „xprv” (legacy adrese koje počinju sa "1"), "yprv" (kompatibilne SegWit adrese koje pocinju sa „3”) ili "zprv" (native SegWit adrese koje pocinju sa "bc1") (izvor).
  Primer: xprv9xyQEZakyfuyCRGF1moJNatpGDAgMS4hgctAgWU4RNw664qCz6agreZParHx6G24td48SZKnmK8 ppSVMvmyBuTy9L4poDhwgm9aR9GukgQW (izvor i dodatno citanje)
  Koristite Electrum > kreiraj novi novcanik > unesi seed.
• Armory Root Key: 18 reci od po cetiri slova.
  Primer (sa bitkee.com): eoaj gghu ruaf ghwe jnrh ftuu hweu aeun agkg tudt waja gunn oawg jkwh dhei hjdn itar naoj
  Koristite Armory. Pogledajte ovaj post za izvoz privatnih ključeva.
• Blockchain.info: Za oporavak starog legacy Blockchain.info novcanika, procitajte ovu temu i idite ovde.
• Blockchain.info: U nekim slucajevima Blockchain.info (danas blockchain.com) prikazuje kompresovani privatni kljuc, dok je adresa bila nekompresovana. Procitajte ovu temu.
• mSIGNA novcanik: Ovaj novcanik koristi nestandardnu implementaciju 24 seed reci. Pogledajte ovu temu za opcije oporavka.
• Ninki Wallet: Procitajte ovu temu. Radite offline sa nepoznatim softverom iz bezbednosnih razloga.

Brute‑force napad
Ako ste izgubili deo svoje seed fraze ili privatnog kljuca, mozda ga možete povratiti brute‑force metodom (uradite ovo oflajn!!).

• btcrecover
• The FinderOuter

Nema novcanika?
Ako ne mozete da pronadjete svoj wallet.dat, zato sto je obrisan ili preimenovan, mozete pokusati sledece opcije (uradite ovo oflajn!!) nakon sto napravite rezervnu kopiju cele particije.

• Pywallet moze da pretrazi celu particiju i pronadje privatne kljuceve, čak i ako je novcanik obrisan.
• Findwallet moze da pronadje datoteku novcanika nakon sto je preimenovana (ali ne i ako je obrisana).

Nakon oporavka
Ako je vasa adresa bila finansirana dovoljno rano, takodje posedujete forkcoine. Procitajte link, mozda vredi vaseg vremena.
Za buduce backup-ove, obavezno sacuvajte sve informacije potrebne za oporavak sredstava.

Bez spama
Sve moje teme su sada samomoderirane kako bi se sprecio spam u potpisima. Uklonicu sve nebitne poruke. Ako citirate ceo prvi post, vas unos ce biti obrisan.
Povremeno cu sazeti poruke i ocistiti ovu temu.

Altcoini
Ova tema i podforum namenjeni su isključivo za Bitcoin. Ali, ako se nešto pojavi, praticu i metode za oporavak ostecenih privatnih kljuceva za altcoine. Za buducu referencu:

• Stellar Lumens privatni kljuc (56 karaktera u base32 formatu, pocinje slovom "S").
  Ako su 1 ili 2 karaktera pogresna, pokusajte sa StellarCracker (autor: Coding Enthusiast).

Odricanje odgovornosti
Koristite ove informacije na sopstvenu odgovornost. Uvek razmislite pre svake akcije, posebno kada radite sa privatnim kljucevima. Ako ste u nedoumici,nemojte to raditi!
Ja sam covek i pravim greske. Ako nesto nije tacno, molim vas da mi javite.

Donacije
1MyMoney4uNt5afXALAZpoovJpqojEMkLP (Stanje: )

It is very strange that for some reason the major staff players are not involved at all with the forum or any discussions regarding Bitcoin. For example, neither hilariousandco or Cyrus are not active at all. It is like they don't care about any of this at all. The same is with mprep. There may be other examples that I don't know?

As someone has said it already, preferably staff members would be involved in discussions everywhere instead of farming money(?) -- that way they would feel just how bad the discussions are and would save time actively pro-moderating. I wonder why they are so inactive (they don't post at all, I'm not talking about moderation)?

Ha. What was described there 9 years ago is exactly what is happening now, except on a much greater scale:


It is stunning how much of a mirror this description is to our current situation. I don't want to say "nothing has changed" because I think what happened was we all got complacent again. But the reintroduction of regular sig and temp bans for continual production of low-quality content would be a good start in helping to correct things.

With a locktime, you can still let them know your backups, wherever you store them. But instead, it will be that of the wallet they would be inheriting from the time locked transaction. You are keeping the seed safe for them this way, in case they might not do it properly, but they know where it is. That way, you can teach them how to broadcast the locked transaction, keep some copies safe, and also give them some copies of the transaction to keep safe.

The only thing is that they can't inherit it until whenever you want, so you can just set a time you think it's enough to inherit it, Dead or Alive.

I made a guide using Electrum (nLockTime ):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5566222.msg66081539#msg66081539

LoyceV locktime discussion thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5180850.0

You can go through this thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2415595.0

Hey guys, I was finally able to update FeeBuddy to the more precise estimations, now supporting less than 1 sat/vB estimations of fees.

I will quote users who are active here in the thread:
@examplens @nutildah @stompix @BlackHatCoiner @LoyceV

Maybe I missed someone.

OPEN BETA is over

We want to thank all testers who took the time to explore and stress-test Bridgoro.
Thanks to your efforts, the platform has already improved significantly since the first Beta, and it will continue to evolve.
We especially want to highlight Bitcointalk member [LoyceV], who identified several critical issues that we wouldn't have discovered on our own. And special thanks to users Cyberczar, German Sniper, and Tin Tiger from the Telegram channel. These guys joined the OPEN BETA on day one and tested everything from start to finish.

The last few weeks were tough for us as we worked to fix bugs while staying active with the community, but we are happy with the outcome. Please give us a few days to review all bug reports, evaluate their quality, and filter out duplicates. After that, we will announce the TOP 10 most active testers. We will also request BTC wallets (or XMR wallets if preferred) from the winners so we can send out the rewards. All reward transfers will be published on our Telegram channel and the Bitcointalk thread for transparency.

Even though the Beta has ended, we hope you will stay with us as we have several important announcements coming about the future of Bridgoro.
Let's just say that once eXch inspired us to create Bridgoro, now Bridgoro is inspiring us to expand the project and go far beyond a no-KYC P2P exchange.

One more update: the public release of Bridgoro will likely be delayed due to ongoing bug fixes. We want to ensure everything is solid before going live, so the new estimated release window is around January 2026.
As always, we will keep you informed.

Unfortunately, the most damage is done by those who are not even aware of it, and I have always wondered how to warn all those users who have been hacked, so to speak, and whose computers are practically used for such attacks. I recently read an article that mentioned a free online version for checking IP addresses in the context of malicious activity. I don't know how much sense this check makes, considering that IP addresses are mostly dynamic these days.

We did a small round of research regarding UTXOs, and we agree that the case where a transaction splits into two outputs with one of them being 311 sats, does happen. Our current method for handling Bitcoin blockchain data isn't perfect, and we definitely have room for improvement. Thank you for pointing this out, because honestly, we probably wouldn't have noticed it ourselves. Previously, we had noticed similar transactions, but since they were just UTXOs worth around 0.1-0.3 cents, we simply ignored that part.

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It's not because you didn't see it, it's because our UX/UI wasn't done well in that part.
We will think it through and hopefully come up with a more intuitive UX solution.

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Thank you for the thoughtful criticism.
Honestly, we didn't expect it to spark any discussion at all.

In any case, we genuinely appreciate the time you’ve invested in contributing to our project and for going through several, if not all, pages in this thread. Now, let me address your feedback. We accept your criticism, but we’d like to clarify a few points to avoid any misunderstandings.
First, we never claimed to be native English speakers. Yes, we speak English fluently, I'm fluent in three languages, and my teammate is fluent in two. So we don't see any issue with running the project in English, especially considering that it's an international language and roughly 99% of all projects use it as their primary communication medium.
Regarding the specific word you pointed out, I'd like to emphasize an important distinction: writing frontend text in English and writing the backend underlying code, including developer-mode error messages, are essentially two different English languages.

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RBF won't be abused in any way, because this part will be improved and properly fixed before launch.
And yes, we fully agree that a lot of scammers will try to target Bridgoro, that's exactly why we decided to run two Beta tests instead of pushing out a buggy release like many big companies do.
We care about what we are building, and before going live, we want to deliver something that may not be perfect, but as close to it as possible.

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In our case, we used Cross-Chain Bridge as an acronym. An acronym formed from the first letters of each word.

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The Data Collection and Privacy paragraph was fully rewritten because certain parts changed during the BETA phase, so we added an exception regarding our use of Cloudflare.

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Fixed.

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The amount descriptions were rewritten to make them clearer for users.
[Amount you sent] shows how much of the asset you submitted for the exchange.
[Amount you get] shows how much of the exchanged asset you will receive or have already received.

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This paragraph has been fully revised and rewritten.
Bridgoro is a semi-decentralized exchange because it combines two worlds into one and takes the best of both. The automated escrow system, powered by blockchain adapters and smart contracts, delivers secure and trustless swaps from the decentralized side, while user-friendly matchmaking and rate modules provide the intuitive and smooth experience typical of centralized platforms.

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Fixed.

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Thanks for testing the address validation using contract addresses.
But if a user submits a contract address instead of their own standard wallet address, the resulting loss will be categorized as Dumb Loss.

As we mentioned earlier, if a user can't complete two basic steps like depositing the required amount into the designated wallet and confirming the deposit, then that user really shouldn't be handling crypto at all.

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We have rewritten the T&C section in GitBook and will update the in-site version shortly.

It seems to me that rather than me rereading it, you're the one who's going to need glasses:



The fact that someone as rational as you does those things indicates that it is your emotional side that is kicking in every time you see the word AI.

But I see that this is turning into a mega thread, originating from a two-part question, the correct answers to which I will now provide:


No.


No.

Go ahead, keep arguing about campaigns and moderators and SEO and all that stuff, but this whole thread is based on blatant false premises.

User: alani123

Additional information (optional):
* While i only list 2 posts, this user actually created more posts containing false information about Taproot, SegWit and OP_RETURN.

List of post:


Taproot actually have 2 main technical benefit,
1. Schnorr Signature. It aggregate signature, which reduce signature size then Taproot address require N-of-M signature for spending.
2. Tapscript. When you spend Bitcoin from Taproot address with multiple spending condition, Tapscript only reveal part of the script which reduce overall TX size and slightly improve privacy.

NFT and token actually can be "created" on Bitcoin network without using SegWit or Taproot. Counterparty (exist since 2014) and Runes (which use OP_RETURN) prove that.


1. OP_RETURN doesn't benefit from witness discount, because OP_RETURN isn't categorized as witness data.
2. If spammer switch from Ordinal (or other approach that use witness data) to OP_RETURN, the negative impact would be lower since OP_RETURN isn't added to chainstate/UTXO set and maximum block size (in bytes) would be lower.

You found time to test even on the last day of the BETA, so I decided to make time to respond to your reports while the Beta is still running.

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Status: [Fixed]

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GitBook doesn't belong to us.
And if you look closely, the right-side panel moves as you scroll down and even highlights the paragraph you are currently viewing.

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Status: [Fixed]

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Status: [Fixed]

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Status: [Fixed]

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Status: [Fixed]

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We already answered to this question here.
Yes, we are certain that we will not claim ownership.
The reason is simple: once we start claiming ownership, we immediately run into problems because Bridgoro has no KYC or AML policies.

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Dumb Fee applies only to the excess amount during DEAL acceptance. But if you send an excess amount during OFFER creation, your offer will be recalculated instead.
To avoid any double interpretation, I added the following clarification under the sentence you highlighted:
But when sending a larger amount while accepting DEALS (offers created by other users), the excess amount is counted as a DUMB FEE and remains in the Buffer Wallet.

Status: [Fixed]

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Status: [Fixed]

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Status: [Fixed]

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Status: [Fixed]

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We will make the table header sticky, so it stays visible as you scroll down through the content.

Status: [Added to backlog]

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We will evaluate how to improve this part after the release.
Thanks for the suggestion.

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The QR suggestion was submitted to us during the first Beta, and we will implement it after the release.

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It will be implemented after the release.

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This UX feature will be also added after release.

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Thanks, buddy for putting in the effort to test so many important areas that needed verification. We are glad that in Beta 2 we've seen fewer bugs than in the first round, and the exchange feature is performing much better than it did during the initial Beta. But thanks to LoyceV, we identified several critical issues, and we are actively working on them now.

Yeah, I see it.
Fun fact: the menu overlaps with the two buttons only on the homepage. We will get that fixed.

Status: [Added to backlog]

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The popup size will be adjusted, and its ratio will scale properly based on the screen size.

Status: [Added to backlog]

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Family should always come first 

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Bridgoro is fee-free during testing and will remain fee-free at release.
What you are seeing isn't a fee, it's a UTXO (unspent transaction output).
This behavior is related to Bitcoin's architecture, not to us.
A tiny leftover like 0.00000311 BTC (311 satoshis) appears when:
- The UTXO used as input had a non-rounded value
- The necessary transaction fee was deducted
- The remaining amount wasn't large enough to be useful, but was still above the wallet's dust threshold
- The wallet decided to create a small change UTXO instead of discarding it

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In general, this isn't dangerous.
Knowing system uptime can help attackers:
- Infer reboot times
- Determine whether a system was recently patched
- Coordinate certain blind timing attacks
- Correlate hosts behind NAT or load balancers

But it doesn't provide access, expose credentials, or compromise authentication directly.

The reference to [ time-based authentication ] loss relates to a theoretical weakness in protocols that rely on precise timing, but this isn't a practical attack vector just because of timestamps.

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Appreciate you testing RBF.
We are already investigating the stuck transaction case (because of RBF) and are conducting a deep analysis to determine the proper fix.

Status: [Added to backlog]

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The Claim Task bug was already reported, and we are actively working on it as well.
It will be resolved in our next upcoming patch.

Status: [Already added to backlog]

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There's no need to move the status field because the Claim Task bug is still present.
Once it's fixed, recurring tasks will show as [Available], and claimed tasks will automatically move to the [Claimed] tab.

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Unfortunately, stuck amounts can only be recovered by contacting the support team.
Providing users with direct access to the buffer wallet recovery would introduce new attack vectors. For security reasons, the Buffer Wallet logic follows simple but strict rules.
The Collector Module scans wallets with stuck funds once per week to avoid interfering with active offers.
Dumb Fee remains Dumb Fee. We will introduce a threshold where some Dumb Fee may be returned to the user, but a significant commission will apply since this requires manual processing on our side.

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Yeah, we will fix that as well.

Status: [Already added to backlog]

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It's not a bug.
We wiped the entire database when deploying the hotfix, so all data (including user accounts and usernames) was deleted.

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Thanks for helping clarify the user database wipe situation.

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This is a bug.
Thanks for reporting it.

Status: [Added to backlog]

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We will implement the feature to hide inactive offers and deals (completed, deposit timeout, aborted) after the release.

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Press the info icon (i) next to the Deal Details popup header.
We intentionally didn't pack too much data into a single popup to avoid overwhelming the user and shifting the focus.

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Thanks for testing this feature.

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In most cases, 30 minutes is enough for BTC to receive at least one blockchain confirmation.
I think this part will naturally improve based on user feedback after release if any issues arise.

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If a user can't complete two simple steps:
1. Deposit the required funds into the designated buffer wallet, and
2. Press the Confirm Deposit button
 
then this user probably shouldn't be on our platform.

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We will reduce the required BTC confirmations to 2 or 3. I will finalize this with my teammate after we finish fixing the current bugs.

Yeah I already tagged him. He's shitposting and spreading FUD in many places, it is not just limited to that board.

Can anyone give example exchange that actually does such thing? I don't expect any exchange would do it since it complicate their deposit and refund system, unless they process deposit and refund manually.

Yes, not only have I seen the topic title, but I've also taken it apart, as well as posting an AI-generated response in this thread that is objectively of much higher quality than the responses out of human asses that the OP thinks are AI. But since you lose all your rationality when the word AI appears, and you have a lot of it, it seems that you haven't noticed.

Apart from the fact that the other part of the title asks whether Bitcoin is dead. Coming from someone who has been on the forum since 2011, it sounds like trolling. Come on, if you tell me that account has been taken over by an AI bot to generate traffic with absurd controversies, I'll believe you.

It only means that you should start improving your own post quality instead of blaming them for taking spot on different signature campaign.

I already raised this issue before concerning multiple account. If multiple account user taking more spot against other user only means that post quality of other user is in low quality.

For example, if LoyceV, Nutildah and other constructive poster own 5 accounts each, even on their worst they still have deeper knowledge to create constructive post than most of shit poster in the forum.

Who do you think is much better to choose? Shit poster just because they own only 1 account or multiple account that create much better post?

Instead of wasting time on envying them why not improve our own post. Manager is partially at fault here if they are enrolling alt farming account just by relying on merit count instead of post quality. They are being paid to check the quality of each poster instead of relying to “alt buster”.

It only means that you should start improving your own post quality instead of blaming them for taking spot on different signature campaign.

I already raised this issue before concerning multiple account. If multiple account user taking more spot against other user only means that post quality of other user is in low quality.

For example, if LoyceV, Nutildah and other constructive poster own 5 accounts each, even on their worst they still have deeper knowledge to create constructive poster own than most of shit poster in the forum.

Who do you think is much better to choose? Shit poster just because they own only 1 account or multiple account that create much better post?

Instead of wasting time on envying them why not improve our own post. Manager is partially at fault here if they are enrolling alt farming account just by relying on merit count instead of post quality. They are being paid to check the quality of each poster instead of relying to “alt buster”.

I don't know how things changed so fast. I mean when I joined the forum 2021, not quite long. There was this great fear of being banned. The fastest way to get yourself banned is;

• Plagerism
• Spamming
• Spreading malware

But these days, I don't think that people are even banned anymore because I don't seem to see much ban appeal threads in the meta board. The forum has become so lenient.

I think the problem is that you are comparing to an apple laptop.

Why use apple ? You will pay 10x the price of the same hardware...

You can get cheap laptop in amazon for like 250 usd.l here in Brazil.
https://a.co/d/fOJagvU

I never had an apple product. Even if I had 10mi in cash ..  just not worth it imo